There’s a photo of Frank Sinatra and Mia Farrow at Truman Capote’s Black & White Ball that has been making the rounds a lot lately – go here to see the photo. Both Frank and Mia are wearing masks, Frank looks grumpy and Mia looks… well, you can’t really see her expression. It’s an old photo, but it’s been cropping up in a lot of photo spreads lately, maybe because it’s on display in the Luntz Gallery in NYC these days, part of a photo exhibit. Woody Allen happened by the exhibit and he stood there, looking at the photo for a long time:
Is Woody Allen feeling haunted by the Mia Farrow-Frank Sinatra revelations?
The director was spotted looking thoughtfully at Harry Benson’s iconic photograph of Farrow and Sinatra entering Truman Capote’s Black and White Ball, which was on display at the Holden Luntz Gallery’s stand at the Park Avenue Armory art and antiques show Thursday.
An onlooker told us, “Woody just stood there looking at the photo of Mia Farrow and Frank Sinatra, studying it intently. He didn’t say a word. Eventually, he quietly moved on.”
The photo — of a masked, elfin Farrow and an angry-looking Sinatra entering Capote’s Ball at the Plaza Hotel — was taken by famed Scottish photographer Benson in 1966. Allen began a relationship with Farrow around 1980, and the couple separated in 1992 over the Soon-Yi affair.
Last week, over two decades later, Farrow got her revenge by revealing in Vanity Fair that Frank, not Woody, might be the father of her biological son, Lil’ Blue Eyes Ronan Farrow.
What was Woody contemplating? The idea that Ronan Farrow was never his biological son? The realization that Mia was cheating on him throughout their relationship? That Ol’ Blue Eyes got him good from beyond the grave? All of the above? It’s worth noting that Woody’s publicist tried to deny and shut down Mia’s Vanity Fair confessions, like Woody will never believe that Ronan is not his biological son. But I have to think that Woody is re-playing that part of his life a lot these days. And I have to wonder if Woody realizes that maybe Ronan was never his?
As for Ronan, Page Six had a good story about his future career – he is coming to MSNBC, but they’re not going to give him his own show right off the bat, I guess. They’re building up to it.
Photos courtesy of WENN, archival images.
Hey Woody, Karma’s a bitch isn’t it…
Took the words right out of my mouth!
ditto!
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HAHAH
to be fair I dont’ even think this is justifiably bad enough karma for the things woody has done and got away with.
Not a Woody-apologist, but exactly how does this qualify as karma if Farrow slept with Frank before Allen slept with Soon-Yi? If anything, the karma would be in Allen’s favor.
Incest trumps cuckolding, in the bad karma department. “It’s Chinatown.”
If Frank is Ronan’s dad, then Ronan dodged a bullet. Ronan is really an amazing man, and I have a hard time believing that he shares dna with Woody.
Oh what a twisted world we weave…!!!
I really don’t have that much of a clue of Allen’s private life, other than his move to marry his…adopted daughter?…hurt a lot of people.
So, karma?
She wasn’t his adopted daughter but rather his ex’s adopted daughter, and she says she never saw him as a father figure, just her mother’s occasional sleepover boyfriend. They had separate homes. The timeline in the article seems incorrect. Woody and Mia were over by the time Soon-Yi started up with him. Awkward but not incest in any sense of the word (she also was an adult by then).
Er…admittedly I haven’t been following this story that closely, but I believe that Mia found nude/obscene photos of a teen Soon-Yi at Woody’s house while they were still married…?
It wasn’t just the Soon-yi scandal, but lets get real: Woody was the primary male relationship in her mother’s life for many, many years. It isseriously messed up that those two got together, even if they’re not biologically related.
BUT another, larger part of the estrangement between Woody and Ronan and the rest of the children is the allegation that he molested one of the younger daughters.
Whether or not there was any kind of adoptive or biological relationship, the whole mess boils down to one thing:
You do not screw your partner’s daughter. Period.
He slept with his long-term partner’s daughter. Who was also his sons’ and daughter’s sister, and whom he’d known from childhood. That’s so far past being okay there just are not words for it.
Apart from any moral obligation to his partner, how in the world could anyone do that to their children? Or to the girl in question – he totally destroyed her family relationships when she was just a kid.
And yes, he was still with Mia. That’s how she found the porno shots of her daughter in Woody’s living room.
@Janet, exactly. “Technically” he wasn’t their father or their adoptive father or whatever, but in fact, he was an authority figure in an intimate relationship with their adoptive mother. At some point, you be a friggin’ adult and accept that you don’t indulge in what you want simply because “technically” it’s legal.
The scandal isn’t just that he hooked up with his wife’s adopted daughter. 1) Farrow and Allen were married for a long time, and he would have seen Soon-yi grow up. Woody is clearly not a father figure type of guy, but it doesnt make it right. 2) the affair most likely started when she was underage. 3) most damningly, there were allegations that he molested Farrow’s daughter Dylan. This goes beyond mere karma.
FYI: Allen and Farrow were never married. Never even lived in the same house.
Woody was in Soon-Yi’s life from the time she was a little girl. In the movie Hannah and her Sisters, which was filmed in Mia’s apartment, you can see Soon-Yi running around when she was about 6 or 7 years old as the whole family was filmed as part of the movie just doing family things, eating Thanksgiving dinner, kids playing, etc.
No matter that he was never her adoptive dad, he crossed a line with her, and most likely with Dylan, that only shows what a predator of young girls he is. I fear for his adopted daughters with Soon-Yi.
@Jaded: Hannah and her sisters is from 1986. Soon-Yi was born in 1970. How could she have been 6 or 7 years old in 1986?
i think he’s such a raging narcissist, the idea that mia would have cheated on him would have never occurred to him. kind of awesome she got to give him that little dig/doubt
this.
Agreed!
Yup. Good for her.
I don’t think it’s a dig, I think it’s the truth. But you’re right about Allen being a raging narcissist. He honestly thinks of himself as a great lover and has said so on several occasions.
Also, he always uses actors such as Owen Wilson, Kenneth Branagh, Jonathan Rhys-Meyers and Will Farrell as his stand-ins in his recent films now that he’s too decrepit to credibly star opposite actresses such as Scarlett Johannson and Rona Mitra. Yeah, like Owen Wilson is a perfect approximation of Allen. Right.
Maybe I am crazy (or want to believe this), but definitely see a resemblance to Frank (he certainly looks like Mia, too)
I see it too. He looks so much like his mother, but he also looks more like Frank than Woody.
It was pointed out that Mia looks like her own father, who also resembles Frank [or vice versa]…I googled it and wow; that’s crazy!
http://projects.latimes.com/hollywood/star-walk/john-farrow/
so with that, and ronan looking like Mia’s twin, it’s hard to say re: the father….
Holy smokes. What a resemblance! Thanks for the link.
I definitely see a resemblance
Wow! Thanks for the link. I still see absolutely no Woody in him though. Anyone know if Woody has any blue eyed family members? The deep blue eyes ronan has still bugs me. He’s so hot.
If Frank was the father why didn’t she day so when she and Woody were fighting for custody? I’m sure Frank would have supported his child.
No one ever noticed a resemblance before.
I can’t stop laughing at that picture of Woody Allen.
honestly I consider myself to be as much a film buff as any film buff out there and I have NEVER understood the appeal of his movies.
also, why does no one EVER mention the underlying theme in so many of them of an older man getting with a younger lady?
There’s an appeal to a few of them. I think Annie Hall is amazing, but i give the credit to diane keaton and her amazing charisma in that film.
Yeah, Annie Hall is a very good movie.
Download ‘Crimes and Misdemeanors’, if you haven’t seen it already. IMHO, Mayda, it’s one of the best movies of all time and stars the incomparable Angelica Houston and Walter Landau. I feel like this movie is unintentionally autobiographical in the sense of how immorality & deceit prevail and how one’s true character is often hidden in plain sight. Woody Allens’s role is the ‘idealist’, but it’s easy to see the real him emerge in all his slimy glory.
‘Crimes and Misdemeanors’ is worth viewing, regardless of his many other movies that are not.
You also make a really good point about his pedophilia inclinations being not so subtly revealed in his work; see ‘Manhattan’ with a 17 yo Mariel Hemingway to Allen’s 44 as one example.
Only one of his movies I ever remotely liked was “Match Point” with Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Rhys Meyers. All the other ones were like sitting around watching white people with self inflicted trauma.
Crimes and Misdemeanors is one of the best movies of all time.
Also Husbands and Wives was clearly autobiographical for Woody.
I’m a Woody Allen fan and I’m Jewish. I’ve always assumed that was why, to be honest. He’s sort of our Tyler Perry.
Well, most of us dislike Tyler Perry and hate that he represents us.
His movies are always misogynist and degrading and full of coonery, needless to say I would never pay to see his crap. I would never see his crap period.
I absolutely loathe WA now, but his film Radio Days was a favorite of mine and still is, ironic as a lot of it is about his childhood. Great cast, including Mia. Ronan is a fox, just like his dad, Old Blue Eyes. I hope Mia writes an auto-biography….think of the stories she could tell!
She has written an autobiography, it’s quite good.
Shows Allen for the perv he is
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/448797.What_Falls_Away
Thanks for the link, Loulou! Just downloaded her book and look forward to reading it this weekend.
Frank doesn’t look angry in that photo. There is an upturn on the sides of his mouth. Cindy Adams, blergh.
Woody Allen – urgh! However, am I the only one who thinks it’s icky to not know for sure who your child’s father is? Banging multiple guys without protection is pretty gross.
Nope, not just you. I find it gross, too. *Cue the woman who always comes in here on her soap box screeching about slut shaming.*
Meh, we all get skeezed out by different things.
Please forgive my ignorance but can somebody explain to me what slut shaming is?
I’m not trying to be horrible, I really don’t know. I’ve tried to look it up but the definitions are contradictory. It’s not a term that is used in my country, ie not English speaking.
A slut to me is someone, male or female, who has sex with anybody that will have them, where quantity is more important than quality. I personally find that rather distasteful and unclassy.
I hate the phrase “slut shaming.”
Seriously, not everyone deserves a cause and a freakin’ float in the parade. Slutty behavior is gross, male or female. I’m not going to feel bad about “discriminating” slutty behavior.
Jessiebes – I’m not a native English speaker either, but I understand slut-shaming as shaming women and calling them names for their behaviour or clothing – not necessarily for sleeping with every man she meets in a club but a sexual or quasi-sexual behaviour of a much lesser degree i.e. when a woman is called slut for wearing short skirt or shorts, showing cleavage, changing boyfriends a lot or publicly admitting to loving sex, experiments in bed or watching porn. Slut-shaming is seen as a negative thing because it shows a double standard – men can be sexual, women can’t. Women should be allowed to enjoy sex the same way men can and it’s not really anyone’s business what people’s sexual choices are as long as it’s legal and they don’t hurt anyone. A man who sleeps around is a playboy, not a slut, when a man likes being nude (like A. Skarsgard), he is brave and liberated, woman is a trashy skank, when a married man cheats on his wife, he only did that because he was seduced by a homewrecker, men watch porn and masturbate – that’s what they do, it’s natural, a woman admits to doing the same thing – a hell of nasty comments brakes loose.
I agree. It’s gross to speculate about your child’s paternity in the media too. Some things should not be hinted or joked about by a mother.
Well, it’s not like Frank & Mia were strangers. They were married, they had a significant history. Plus, eeewww, Woody Allen. Even old Frank was better than that.
Y’know, Frank was a pretty despicable human being too. Obviously his business dealings were super shady, but he also treated women abominably. And let’s not forget he married Mia when he was 50 and she was a very naive 21, and then divorced her two years later because she chose to work on Rosemary’s Baby instead of one of his films. They had a deeply twisted relationship, he was as much her father as her lover.
Every man Mia’s been associated with has been super gross. Unfortunately for her she has a type. If I was Ronan I’d be wishing I was adopted since both potentials fathers are scumbags.
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Don’t let your hate for Woody blind y’all to the fact that Frank was very abusive.
Exactly – in his own way, Frank was as creepy as Woody, with the added bonus of a violent and explosive temper.
Ronan would be luckiest if he were the product of an anonymous sperm donor.
Didn’t Andre Previn cheat on his wife, Dory, to be with Mia? She goes for that type.
Yes, Dory Previn wrote a song about it called Beware of Little Girls, or something like that.
The whole unpleasant saga has been going on for decades.
Not only did Previn cheat on Dorie w/Mia, but when he decided to end his affair with her and go home, Mia publicly announced she was pregnant with twins. Dorie then attempted suicide.
Dory Previn had befriended Mia and they were very close friends when Mia started her affair with Andre. Mia is manipulative and dishonest.
The team of psychologists who investigated the allegations that Woody abused his daughter as well as the family psychologist who had been working with the children for years including Dylan concluded that she was not abused. There just was no evidence of it but there was a lot of evidence of her inability to distinguish fantasy from real life. Now what is really sad is that Mia has convinced this now adult that she was vicitmized by Woody. This sounds like the crazy Elizabeth Morgan case.
Doing this to your ex and as a consequence to your own child out of revenge is despicable. Way worse than your adopted daughter stealing your boyfriend who you’ve been cheating on all along. Karma, Mia, just karma.
All this hate directed at Woody based on Mia’s lies is just what she wanted.
Well when you put it that way…*grumbles* giggles killing realistic perspective.
Andre Previn was not so gross. I met him years ago when he was working on his memoir about working in Hollywood and he was extremely funny — very dry sense of humor.
Wow…good to know. Maybe Old Frank wasn’t an upgrade from WA.
IA that Frank had his issues, but I seriously doubt that Mia was naive, even at 21 years of age….
I mean come on! Of course it’s Sanatra’s kid! He looks just like him! Hahaaa, I can’t even look at the pictures without cracking up.
It’s driving me crazy how everyone is glossing over the child molestation charges brought up in the same VF article against Allen – and instead everyone is talking about the paternity issue. He’s a sick man.
Maybe because the court didn’t believe the charges and Mia is quite capable of making such accusations in an ugly divorce/custody dispute, and consciously or unconsciously implanting false memories about it into her young daughter. In other words, it simply isn’t a clear cut situation. There is loads of legitimate doubt about Mia’s version. People in Hollywood who know them both obviously don’t think he’s the pedophile Mia paints him as- but they are more personally familiar with Mia’s particular form of craziness. I don’t buy the idea that Allen “escaped” because he was “powerful”. Mia had plenty of powerful connections as well as fame. Remember this is the same woman who in that interview casually let it drop that her previous ex could possibly be the father of her golden child rather than Allen. Is she just vindictive or delusional or both? Or was she busy with other men so much that she really doesn’t know who the sperm donor was? Who knows. But it doesn’t exactly scream good judgment at the very least.
If I found pornographic photos, taken by my boyfriend, of my teenage daughter I don’t think it would take me much time to wonder if my other children were OK.
Ummm, Hollywood still supports Roman Polanski, and his crime wasn’t exactly fabricated.
The abuse talk started before Mia found out about Woody and Soon-Yi. Woody was also willingly participating in family counseling at the time.
FWIW, Mia and Woody were never married.
@bridget actually mia herself was a witness on behalf of polanski in the sex and libel trial in the uk not that many years ago.
I completely agree, jwoolman
And, bluhare, they were not pornographic photos. She was nude or in some stage of undress. It’s pretty Victorian of you to assume all such photos are pron. Soon Yi was of age – she was not a child.
I’d be mad at my boyfriend as well if he took up with my daughter but the level of anger directed at Woody and her reaction to it were beyond crazy. Woody’s transgression with Soon Yi was just that – a transgression. Making it more than it is reveals more about those railing about it than it does Woody. He was insensitive for sure. However, I have no idea what Woody and Mia’s relationship was like – it sounds like it was barely there. He never lived with them, he was never a father figure to any of Mia’s children except Ronan, Dylan and Moses, they ceased intimate relations as soon as Ronan was born and now it seems Mia had been cheating on him all along. Not even sure you could call them still in a relationship though Mia still worked in his movies and relied on his money.
Mia was unhinged and false accusations of child abuse and the fact that she has not gotten over it yet to the point where she would suggest Ronan is not his son publicly and, worse, have cut off her daughter and encouraged her other children to shun her as well shows just how unhinged and unloving she is.
Too much has been made of this. Mia is much more of an architect than Woody of her problems and anger as well as the problems of her children.
I think because the allegations were thoroughly hashed out in a previous Vanity Fair article and this was just revisiting that story, so it wasn’t shocking new revelations, it was the revelations we were all shocked by 10 years ago but it has been talked about a lot in the meantime. The Sinatra/Ronan news is new news.
I hope he was feeling pain and doubt. LOL
In the 1992 Vanity Fair article he referred to Satchel (Ronan) as a “little bastard” and was very distant towards him in comparison to the gross attachment Woody had with Dylan. Maybe he knew all along that Ronan was never his?
I just saw this and wrote something similar down thread. I bet he knew he wasn’t the father from the beginning. Perhaps he was never knew for sure who the father was.
Not to defend him in ANY way, but I believe that Woody Allen never, ever wanted to have bio-children, and that Mia forced the issue. I think he’d resent Ronan if he was his bio-son or not.
As a parent I’d never understand resenting your child – the choice of their conception was yours, not theirs.
Yes, back then people who knew them said that he only favored Dylan, and was caught with her in sexually inappropriate situations by more than one person. The rule at the house, was that he wasn’t to be left alone with her. Now years later Dylan/Malone confirms the abuse. Woody molested her. It will be interesting to hear what his two latter adopted daughters have to say in twenty years.
I’m not defending here but bringing up the obvious..why would any parent who suspected sexual abuse allow the accused to spend ANY time with their child? Who’d make such an insane rule about not leaving the child alone w/him and then stay in the relationship? It’s crazy and makes no sense.
The allegations of Allen’s abusing Dylan/Malone were made by a nanny after much prodding by Mia (which was documented) and if I remember correctly were vague at best and rejected by the court. It’s impossible to find out what really happened because Mia’s behavior was inexplicable even prior to Allen’s affair w/Soon Yi.
Please. That sounds like a joke someone would say. Ronan was what they called in Woody’s day an illegitimate child, i.e., a bastard. Don’t make more of this than what it probably was – a joke.
Reportedly Mia became obsessed with Ronan from birth and started ignoring and neglecting Dylan and the other children as well. Dylan was still very young and I think Woody explained why he paid more attention to her since Mia was no longer doing it. Woody had adopted her with Mia. These children had a family psychologist working with them from when they were very small. A father’s attention to his children is a normal thing. Woody who became a father late in life probably needed more experience at balancing his interactions with his children. Most fathers are away from their children all day while at work – fathers who have the luxury of time, e.g., when not working on a film, are usually encouraged in our society to be active and absorbed parents. Now in this case it’s supposed to be wrong or abnormal?
Seeing as Ronan despises his father, I would think it would be kind of a relief that paternity would be in doubt.
I don’t think Frank Sinatra as a possible father is a win either.
I do see a resemblance. Aww, that karma she’s a bitch, eh woody?!! Lol
If that’s not Sinatra’s son, then it’s one heck of a coincidental resemblance. Especially considering how trollish his alleged bio dad looks.
I think if you look at pics of Woody and Mia when they were younger you can see that he is Woody’s son. There is always DNA test to prove one way or another if Ronan should care to go through that. I think Mia has done a wonderful job raising him.
With the mask on, Frank Sinatra looks even MORE like Ronan! The shape of the face, the eyes, the chin. We can now be 90% certain he’s Frank’s kid. We can also be 100% certain that he’s NOT Woody’s!
Saw a picture of Sinatra as a 10 year old yesterday. The resemblance to Ronan was even more striking.
I wouldn’t worry about which one’s DNA Ronan has. So far he seems to be a win for nurture over nature with added bonus of Mia’s genes.
According to the VF article, Woody never liked Satchel (Ronan) and was down right mean to him. My theory is that Woody and Mia weren’t sleeping together at that time, and he knew all along that he wasn’t the bio dad. Why he claimed to be is anyone’s guess. Perhaps he wanted an heir. Perhaps he was trying to save face. We are talking about Woody Allen here, so who knows?
My personal theory is that Mia told Woody she was using an anonymous sperm donor to conceive Ronan, because Woody couldn’t have kids. Now Woody is wondering if Mia really did use an anonymous donor or if Frank did the deed. Hence the prolonged look at the picture? Just my own little fiction though….
Hm. Interesting twist. Taking into consideration that Mia Farrow’s nanny, in her book, stated that Mia and Woody didn’t have sex for the last five years of their relationship, it may have been the case that Mia got pregnant and Woody Allen knew it was a biological impossibility that he was the father. Mia was 42, so this was her last chance at another biological child and she just went for it.
Maybe when Mia turned up pregnant, she just said something vague about a sperm donor or a former boyfriend and didn’t specify which one…
VF is just M.Farrow’s voice. Why would W.Allen have spend millions and years in court to have access to his child if he never liked him? Talk about rewriting history…
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I do think Woody is haunted by the fact that Mia more or less admitted that she and Frank were fooling around for a long time ie. “we never really broke up.” As for Ronan’s parentage…it’s hard to say…I see Mia when I look at him. I definitely do NOT see Woody at all. But I’m not sure if I see Frank Sinatra in his looks. Either way, he turned out fabulously! I’m sure Mia is very proud. (And I hate to say it…but any doubt present in Woody’s mind now is well deserved!)
I really don’t think Woody gives a shit at this point. He did what he did, he did what he felt was right for him, it’s very clear that he and soon-yi have a real relationship and she is competent enough to make decisions for herself. he’s not apologizing. good for him.
as sketchy as it is to everyone not involved…and i don’t envy that family for having to deal with that…
but there are 3 sides of the story: his, hers and what really happened (and also what each of their children think about it, which complicates things even more)
as far as farrow, i know this is a huge crazy thing to happen to a family, and the family is huge so it might be harder to keep people from talking, but she needs to shut up.
really, i don’t give a shit who the father of your son is…she’s just saying things for attention every time a film of his comes out.
why didn’t she mention it before her son was in the public eye? or doing well? or getting attention from the press?
at this point, i wouldn’t be surprised if farrow is really over it in general, but she can’t help herself but open her mouth and say something bad about allen whenever theres a moment for him in the public…like ‘hey, i just made this great movie, again’ (it’s also important to note here that Allen rarely, if ever, promotes his films, does interviews about them, goes to premiers, does publicity for them, so he’s not looking for attention, he’s just looking to make his movies)
…so farrow HAS to jump in and remind everyone of their personal problems 20-something years ago that shes done numerous lengthy interviews to discuss already…
it’s irrelevant if she cheated or not, or who the father is or not…but she knows noone will ever go ‘gasp! you cheated on allen? you’re bad just like he is, you’re not completely innocent’…because after all the publicity she gave to her own situation, you know she thrives off of other people feeling sorry for her and taking her side, even if the people taking her side are just random people on the internet or the public who don’t even know her family…
she would just die if anybody forgot how sorry you should feel for her and how much you should fucking hate Allen.
worse happens every day, but not to famous people, and they don’t publicly beg for others to feel sorry for them and dislike all things related to the other party because they think you should…
whatever to the whole thing…
This ^ +1000
http://www.cracked.com/funny-1262-mia-farrow/
Not saying this is the actual truth but all is accurate and definitely makes one think.
He sexually abused her young daughter and married her other mentally handicapped underage daughter. He used his celebrity and money to to threaten and intimidate Mia and the officials investigating the allegations at the time. The Hollywood community rallied around him the way they did with Roman Polanski and tried to make Mia out to be crazy with jealousy. Her film career suffered, while his prospered. And when the sexual abuse files mysteriously disappeared from the records, he was allowed to adopt two more girls, one who bears a resemblance to a young Dylan and one who bears a resemblance to a young Soon-Yi.
I think we all should be asking why this pedophile is not being investigated.
Thank you Cindy. Very well said.
It’s always so disheartening when people just want to blame the victim while the abuser goes off Scot free. 🙁
I’m not defending Woody Allen but the facts don’t present as you’re relating them. Soon Yi is not disabled in any way, was attending college when she began her relationship w/Allen and eventually earned a Master’s degree. Mia floated the disability issue in the press and claimed Soon Yi was at least 5 years younger than claimed which wasn’t supported by anything or anyone.
In interviews Soon Yi comes off as a pretty contained intellect, who runs the relationship w/Allen.
While the allegations of Dylan’s abuse are horrible, they’ve never been proven. The family court found Mia culpable in unduly influencing the nanny’s testimony. Mia’s behavior during and after her relationship with Woody Allen is often inexplicable. He may be a pervy loon but there’s a reasonable chance he’s not a pedophile.
The court refuses to believe Dilan was molested. Soon-Yi was 27 when he married her and 22 when M.Farrow found about them. She is now finishing her Ph.D. None of your facts are right.
I agree, Cindy.
Well said. I do think her revealing “secrets” in an apropos of nothing story in Vanity Fair is because Blue Jasmine has a shot at an Academy nomination.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Sinatra don’t look angry! That’s a half smirk if I ever saw one. LOVE that pixie haircut on Mia with her delicate features.
I just finished the Vanity Fair article last night and am so sickened by all of this. I 100% believe Woody is the sick perv he is made out to be, but I can’t help but wonder what was Mia thinking in allowing him into her kids life in the first place. The article states that he was already in therapy for inappropriate behavior towards Dylan and yet Mia let him adobt her? What kind of parent would allow that? And if he was in counseling for being a perv why did the adoption agency or court allow him to adobt Dylan? This doesn’t make sense. It just seems like Mia allowed a whole lot of sh*t to go down with her kids when it was her job to protect them. It seems like the kids were busy seeing psyciatrist and therapists from a young age. That being said nothing excuses Woody’s behavior. I feel bad for Dylan and the other children who have been adversely affected by this stuff. What is weird is that there is a photo of Woody holding Dylan in the article and before I read it I thought she was his biological child because the resemblance is uncanny. Of course that is just one photo at a young age and her head is down so it might just be a fluke.
From a gossip persepective the article mentions that one of her sons Moses does not keep in touch with any of the others. I don’t know if that meant he is estranged from his just his siblings or his mother as well. I wonder what that is about.
TG,
Often mothers (and others) want to see the best in others and will look away from patterns & behaviors that are ‘unpleasant’. It’s in hindsight you see what happened — not during.
BTW I’m speaking from experience.
I also think it is about lacking the courage to do the right thing and also self-preservation. Based on Mia’s interview it sounds like she was dependent on men to provide for her. So maybe she cared more about the money from Woody and her own dating life than about her children. I don’t know. Most of her kids seem to be doing well so she must have done something right.
Lots of love and strength being sent to you, LadySlippers. Thank you for your honesty. I completely agree.
Inappropriate does not mean abusive. It can mean over protective. It can mean many other things. I find most parents today inappropriate with their children – we call it helicopter parenting. As the facts show Woody was never found to have abused his daughter.
As someone pointed out earlier, the VF piece is all Mia. It was her mouthpiece.
It’s fun for people to psychoanalyze Woody, I suppose, but so much of the analysis is laughably wrong.
A narcissist, a sociopath… nope.
He’s completely neurotic and anxiety-ridden, paralyzed by his fear of death, and socially inept. He lives in a state of arrested development. He is extremely high IQ with a low social and emotional functioning. The guy is obviously Aspergers (high functioning autism and intellectually gifted).
He didn’t know how to be a parent to his children because in his head he is a child. He saw them as peers. He wanted to connect with them as peers. Mia and others should have seen this, but she was too busy adopting more children and leaving them at home with nannies on top of each other. (And, as we now know, cheating herself.) Both Mia and Woody made plenty of horrible mistakes, but to Woody’s credit he never took this kids’ personal lives to the cover of Vanity Fair and nightly news television. Mia did again and again.
Woody was never charged with child molestation. Mia’s accusations were thoroughly investigated and dropped, and the conclusion was that Mia possible planted the idea in the child’s head.
Diane Keaton has stood by Woody, while Mia has stood by Roman Polanski, a convicted child rapist.
Abusers are very charming and most people buy the act hook, line, and sinker.
again, agreed.
You haven’t the faintest clue as to what you are talking about…
Kate,
+ 1000
If Frank is indeed the father, then I can see why Mia fought so vehemently for Woody not to have anything to do with the child. I’m sure back then, she did not want to say anything about it due to the child’s age. She may have done it now that he is an adult and capable of accepting it than when all the drama was happening back then. I’d still like to think that there would be a hint of Woody in the kid, not matter if he takes after Mia or her Dad.
I don’t like to use that adjective but good Lord, Woody Allen is one seriously ugly man…from the big ears to the big nose to the beedy eyes.
I don’t see one single feature of resemblance with Ronan.
If Mia’s revealing this publicly, that tells me she revealed it to Ronan and her other children long ago. And chances are if she’s revealing it, it’s more than mere speculation. She likely knows exactly who the father is. Ronan certainly looks much more like Sinantra than Woody. It might also explain why Ronan has turned so completely on Woody – he’s made it VERY clean he wants nothing to do with him. Understandable given Woody’s pedo-incest actions, but perhaps made easier by the knowledge Woody isn’t even his bio father.
The most obvious question here is why would he go out in a public place and stare at a photo with all this going down? Even though he’s ancient I’m pretty sure he knows how to use Google if he wants to look at old photos. I don’t know – I think I’m going to call BS on this story.
Well, the boy certainly does have beautiful eyes…..
Maybe it’s just my way of thinking, but I don’t really like Mia. She comes off as bitter and not being able to just let it go, and live her life with her kids.
I don’t understand the purpose of bringing all of that up–the past allegations of abuse, Sinatra maybe being Ronan’s father, etc. I could see if, in that VF interview, she was bringing it up in promotion of talking with your kids about speaking up if an adult is doing something to you, that makes you feel uncomfortable, or promoting some charity about sexual abuse—something like that.
It just seems like she’s bringing up old stuff, because it’s on her mind all the time. Like, I didn’t really like that tweet that Ronan sent out–the “happy brother in law day” one. I get the sentiment and I like that he still considers Soon-Yi to be his sister (unlike Mia), but why would you give satisfaction to someone that you’re still paying attention to them? I’d just ignore them–because generally people who do things like that (Allen) they want to be acknowledged. I wouldn’t acknowledge him at all.
What do you all think?
I completely agree with you about the Father’s Day tweet. I believe in psychological warefare of never giving the other person or party satisfaction. I thought it was crass when it was covered by the media. I don’t do twitter so I only know what people tweet if it is on here.
I feel the same way about Mia.
She has a histrionic approach; creating drama for effect, falling short of considering how her children will deal with it.
Why don’t they just have a DNA test and get it over and done with.
Well…foke me!…there is a god!
Another item to note is that over the past few years – as recently as I think a month ago – Woody was photographed hanging out and going to events with some rich mogul/businessman who was allegedly convicted of pedophilia years ago (or brought up on charges – I don’t remember exactly what it said). It’s been in all of the NY papers – the photos. And there was Soon-Yi, right beside them. I don’t remember the man’s name, but it was noted in the photo caption of the charges that were brought against the guy.