I’m about to apply the same logic to Justin Theroux and Jennifer Aniston’s relationship that I’ve applied (in the past) to Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. That logic? Basically, whenever rumors swirl that a couple is breaking up and the couple goes out and puts up a “togetherness” front, it actually means something. On a superficial level, we’re supposed to look at JustJen together in the same car, going to Emily Blunt’s baby shower, and think “Yay, they’re still together, no problems here!” But I’ve always thought there was more to it, especially with these obvious kinds of photo-ops and official sounding push-backs. It’s not just that Justin and Jennifer went out in public together – it’s that they talked about the rumors and decided on a plan of action together to refute the rumors, that’s what speaks volumes to me. While I still wonder/assume that Justin and Jennifer will be done in four months’ time, I think it’s a good sign for them as a couple that they’re working together to push back on the rumors.
So, here’s hoping that they’ve worked out their junk and that Justin signed off on this Daily Mail story. The Mail published this last night as an “exclusive”. It sounds like it came from Jennifer’s publicist, but who knows really?
They quashed speculation their relationship is on the rocks after throwing a star-studded Christmas party with a guest list to rival the Oscars. And after putting their wedding on hold, Jennifer Aniston and Justin Theroux are now vowing to spend more time together in 2014 – having even attended counseling sessions, MailOnline can reveal.
After being separated for work over the past few months, the couple have now made plans for a New Year sunshine break in Mexico.
A source said: ‘Jen and Justin love each other, they are fully committed. They had hoped to be married by now but work commitments this year meant their plans went astray. They have had some counseling. They both regret not spending more time together this year and they’re determined that next year will be different.’
The couple recently moved into their newly renovated $21million Bel Air residence – where they threw a holiday bash earlier this month – but a friend said that Jennifer has conceded she will set up camp in New York when Justin begins filming HBO series The Leftovers next spring.
Their continuing closeness could be seen as Justin, 42, dropped, former Friends star Jennifer, 44, off at pal Emily Blunt’s baby shower in Los Angeles on Saturday afternoon – picking her up a few hours later.
Engaged since August 2012, they have been discussing wedding plans, as the source said: ‘Jen and Justin are looking at it like it’s a party for their friends. They’ve downgraded the scale of their wedding. Justin is adamant it will happen in 2014 but that it will be more ‘spontaneous and organic ‘ than they’d previously wanted.’
The little voice in the back of my head just whispered, “… but he’s going to be in New York for months and they’ll be physically separated for a long time…” But hey, I’m still hoping the Mail’s version is the correct version. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Jennifer and Justin were in counseling too – Jennifer is a big believer in therapy, and I could totally see her asking Justin to do couples’ therapy to work out some of their problems.
Also – of course they’re doing New Year’s in Mexico. That’s such a no-brainer! Haven’t they spent the last two New Year’s in Cabo? I swear, we’re going to be doing Aniston Mad Libs next. Aniston: “I feel most beautiful when ______.”
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and Terry’s Diary.
Christ! When will this New National Aniston Nightmare be over!!!?? Doesn’t she and her publicist get tired of this rigmarole
“Doesn’t she and her publicist get tired of this rigmarole”.
I wonder about that too dear
Just you wait – the annual hooch and cooch photo show from Cabo hasn’t even begun yet.
@Bea, who wrote: “Just you wait – the annual hooch and cooch photo show from Cabo hasn’t even begun yet.”
LOL!! The ‘Hooch and Cooch Show’ … I am SO stealing that! 🙂
If you need counseling during your engagement then you should probably just call the whole thing off. Seriously. I understand counseling for couples who have been married for years, have children and the stress of all that, etc. But if you haven’t even walked down the aisle and you are sitting in counseling my instincts tell me it’s a difficult road ending in divorce. Just let it go already!
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What do they need counseling for? Unless it’s premarital counseling why fight to keep it together?
She and Brad Pitt spent most of their marriage in counseling. Fat lot of good it did them.
Agreed… holy crap
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Well, Jennifer has been in therapy most of her adult life, but I wonder why she insists on her partners going through it as well? Is it an “I have have serious issues and you have to learn how to deal with me” kind of thing?
Then again, Justin is such an ‘Artist,’ he might enjoy the angst fest. (Shrug)
She needs therapy. Who goes most of their lives without speaking to their own mother? I know there are those who have falling outs, and lose contact with the family but I believe(hope) that to be rare.
She obviously has issues, and depends on therapy to help her get through. As an outsider looking in I wonder if I had her bank account would I still need therapy too?
Word.
The long engagement too smells like marriage is never going to happen.
I agree, but it’s possible that it was the kind of counseling that ministers require before they perform a marriage…ttthhhhaaaahhh. Nevermind I just read my own comment.
I don’t know. I can’t imagine therapy can hurt, and if they have the time and the money to invest in it, why not? I have friends who are “pre-emptively” in therapy and they seem to be doing great. Some people enjoy all the talking and analyzing, I think.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN to that!! If things are so rough BEFORE you get married? Why are you getting married??
absolutely 100% agree
Baloney. If more people would get premarital counseling, there would be less trouble later. IF they’re listening to each other.
My best friend had pre-wedding counselling with her Catholic minister, after she became engaged. Then she had pre-marriage counselling every week for 9 months before the wedding. Everything seemed blissful. I actually envied her immensely. Two years into the marriage, she had a premature baby- four lbs., and her son had learning disabilities. Her husband was cruel and blamed her for their childs disabilities. He was embarrassed that he had a son that wasn’t perfect. Her perfect hubby started trolling online, began an affair which resulted in his mistress giving birth to a healthy baby girl. They got divorced, he kicked her out of their custom built home, and she is in a crappy apartment with their son. Endless counselling did not save this marriage. Marriage only works if both husband & wife are committed to be loyal to eachother, no matter what challenges they may face. Jen & Justin are doomed…these two are not designed for marriage.
Right on!
“counseling” = renegotiating their contract.. read b/w the lines folks. Justin needed a talkin to by means of a renegotiate those $$$$bills ya’ll. you really don’t think he has not been getting paid this whole time do ya??
^^This.
Meh. These JustJen stories just show that her publicist is reading all the breakup stories. I still think they’re done and just a matter of time/distance before they announce it.
If they are trying to work it out, we’ll see after the holidays. If she does actually stay or at least visit him in New York (and vice versa with him visiting her when free), then I might believe.
I was left with a sour taste after reading the DM article yesterday because it seems like Jen and/or her publicist is waaay too concerned about what her fans or the public at large are saying about Jen’s relationship. Like that is all they care about — when all she should care about is her real life, not the public’s perception of her. And I think that’s the part that turned me sour on her — I never realized how vested she was in the media game. It seems like if she was really truly living such a happy, amazing life, seeing a few negative stories about her and Justin wouldn’t bother her. But no, all of a sudden we get pictures of them together. And stories of their undying love. And future plans. Barf. Get a life already. Jen might actually find love and happiness if she stops playing the Hollywood/media game and just focuses on her life.
I get what you mean Emmie,I think only strong men and women are able to ignore what the media and people say about them,thats why I’m really attracted to people who don’t pay attention to what others think about them,its admirable.
Ha! After So many years people are finally calling her and her publicist out!
Wait. There has to be official apartment/condo/coop shopping for Anniston to be fully involved in a New York move. She doesn’t do hotels and rentals. JMTC.
Seriously how long have they been together? A few years? How come they need counselling already?
Going to therapy for more than 2 decades is plain weird. There is seriously something wrong with this woman – she must have some pretty bad demons inside her head.
Plus who goes to therapy before getting married? If you have so much problems that you have to get a third party help to solve before you get married – then just imagine what it will be like after the wedding.
I genuinely can’t see if they are together or not – Jennifer is the queen of pr manipulations and I have been wrong about her games a few times before.
PS: here comes her annual bikini parade where we all have to first see that she is not pregnant and then secondly we have to fawn over the fact that she has an amazing body despite being in her 40s. That’s the image Jennifer and Huvane have been pushing toward us since her divorce – looking good is apparently the best form of revenge.
I personally think that Halle Berry, Gisele Bunchen, Penelope Cruz, Gwen Stefani and many more have a much better fugue than Jennifer – these women also have birth and had to adjust their body to that and still they look amazing.
Maya I agree couples counseling at this stage is weird (see my post above!) but ongoing counseling for an individual is not necessarily that strange. I personally have an anxiety disorder, I don’t want to live my life on medications. Some people do, that’s fine that it their choice. For me I would rather do ongoing talk therapy. Some people need therapy not to resolve their demons but to have an ongoing state of mental health.
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This.
@Patricia: You are absolutely right about ongoing counseling and in my haste to write a comment about Jennifer – I forgot that others will read those same comments as well.
I am sincerely sorry that I sounded ignorant and also sorry for hurting other people here on CB who suffers from depression, anxiety and other mental disorder. It is a serious issue and it shouldn’t be a stigma as well.
@Maya,
What a classy apology. Good for you.
Also all those women manage to not have their publicists send out weekly reports about their bodies.
All Jen has is her body, which is average and nothing special considering she has never had kids (and never will). Go to any beach and see better bodies on women her age and older.
The media and her fans fixate on her body and hair because there is nothing else about her to talk about!
No great roles, no interesting trips/adventures, no interesting charity work besides a yearly commercial, no passionate causes or speeches.
Whoa, did someone steal Cecilia’s name?
Virgilia, it’s a common enough name; maybe there’s more than one on here.
Going to therapy for two decades isn’t weird. Thinking that is weird is a very immature point of view. Therapy can be an on-going process. And maybe Jen needs someone who isn’t in the business, who isn’t a ‘yes’ person on her payroll as a sounding-board. Maybe she really trusts her therapist. Who are we to decide what is weird for her, especially where her mental health is concerned?
Agree. I say do what you gotta do to be well.
Agreed, Emmie. I’d add as I said above that maybe them going to therapy together is just an extension of this. Nice that he would be supportive of it and I don’t think it can hurt anything if they’re both willing participants.
Many people who look askance at therapy and judge others for being there for any length of time (how do you become the arbiter of how long someone else’s therapy should be? seems like a very personal decision between therapist and client) are those that need to be/are afraid to be there themselves….
The woman apologized for her comment, no need to castrate her. And labelling someone as immature is immature, don’t you think?
atorontogal: Maya apologized after I (& others) commented. And no, I don’t think labeling someone immature is immature. But either way, I didn’t outright say she was immature, I said her point of view on long-term therapy was immature.
I have always thought she works so hard on promoting her body for Brad . She has to keep it up until the day he dies. If you think your body is the most important thing that attracted your now ex husband to you that’s really shallow.
New day, another story planted by her pr team. Her pr team can’t make up its mind. Breaking up or working it out!
If you need counseling before marriage, maybe you shouldn’t be getting married.
And Mexico again! How boring. All she will do is tan her leather skin and pose for the paps. Then have her pr team release stories about how she was glowing and looked happier then ever!!!!!!! Her publicist needs new vocabulary.
To be almost 45 and all you have to talk about is your hair and body is pathetic.
hmmmm…I see you have snitched my name. Oh well, I will just go by OCecilia now.
I know Jen is big on Therapy — I have friends like that but who knows if this is even true. I remember back , as a practicing Catholic, we were required to take Pre Cana courses – a form of counseling to prepare you for marriage. I thought it was stupid but went ahead & took them. I was quite surprised & never regretted it.
There have been several commenters over time who have had the same commenter names. For instance, there are several Tiffany’s on here. I don’t think it is an attack against you.
I think the fact that they subsequently changed it to OCecilia suggests it’s not an accident. And I’m pretty sure it’s Sal/Maya.
Well imitation is the sincerest for of flattery….
Thank you, Lucy. It is obvious this was no accident. Flattery?? OK.
@Lucy: I am Maya and have always been Maya – I don’t need to use other names to get my point across.
Just because you use multiple names like Lucy/Cecilia/Holly/Maggie to write comments – it doesnt mean that others do that it as well.
Don’t judge others by your own low standards.
Could the two/three of you use a personal messaging system to yell at each other about your various names and stop clogging up the celebitchy comments? Thanks.
I feel most beautiful when drinking margaritas !!!
I feel most beautiful when people are talking about my hair!!
I feel most beautiful when I look at my bank balance!!
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I’d feel extremely beautiful if I had her bank balance!
+2 million
I didn’t get a chance to post anything today, and I see I didn’t need to – bravo!
Lol! 😀
Didn’t Brad and Jen go to counseling before they got married? I seem to remember mention of it.
They went to counseling before their marriage. They went to counseling during their marriage. Evidently it didn’t take.
Or maybe counseling helped them realize that they were better off apart.
Why would you tell everybody that you’re doing couple’s therapy and say, “sorry people for not getting married this year but, stick around. It’s happening!” Come on! This is a circus. Privacy is key in an intimate relationship to stay strong. When you’re going through marital problems, not even your own family need to know about it, let alone the rest of the world.
Dear CosmicGirl – how long have you been reading Aniston posts? Does anything about this woman tell you she’s craving privacy? She’s addicted to the kind of attention she gets on these blogs.
I’m surprised at the amount of posters ripping on her for going to therapy. Sometimes you just want a neutral ear to hear you out. I’ve never actually gone to therapy, but I’m not going to shade her for doing something in an attempt to help with mental health.
Going to therapy while engaged doesn’t mean that your relationship is going to end in a messy divorce. To me, it actually shows more commitment, and that they want to address issues before they get out of hand.
I am in no way a fan of Aniston, but the fact that so many people are dissing her for going to therapy really speaks to the way that mental health, and mental illness is viewed. Therapy doesn’t mean you’re a complete screw up, it doesn’t mean you’re mentally ill, and it doesn’t mean that you deserve to be dissed for that.
@Erinn people aren’t ripping her apart for undergoing theraphy that’s not bad at all.
But people here are just condemning the fact that she is undergoing theraphy for her relationship. I agree with posters who say if you have to undergo theraphy while engaged then the relationship is doomed.
seriously…a LOT of Judgy McJudgersons on here.
couple’s therapy/counesling before you get married? smart. perhaps they never will get married, but trying to work on any possible issues BEFOREHAND is a good idea. doesn’t mean you’re going to have a messy divorce…in fact, if there is divorce in their future, therapy can help you have an amicable divorce.
and those throwing shade at people who go to (mental health) therapy for years…well, I hope you (or a family member) are never in the situation that you need it. have some compassion, people. going to therapy doesn’t mean you have demons in your head; it means you have problems that you want help with. no wonder there’s STILL such a stigma about it.
and wow…”name” stealing. how old are we, folks?
Yeah, reading some of these posts really bummed me out. Like another poster, I suffer from anxiety. Always have, for as far back as I can remember. I used to get intense stomach aches attributed to anxiety when I was in grade school, then it moved on to panic attacks/digging my nails into my palms/bouts of hair loss, and trichotillomania. It’s not my fault; depression and anxiety runs in my family (almost all the women on my mother’s side). I don’t like the idea of relying on medication, so I definitely see the merit in on-going talk therapy (not that medication lacks merit, I just don’t want to rely on it, personally) even if, yes, it goes on for decades. Just like cars need a “tune-up” so do people’s well-being.
As for the pre-marriage couple’s counseling… I see no problem in that. There are many couples who never get married who go to couple’s counseling, and Jennifer has mentioned they already “feel married”. For many people, the demarcation between singledom/marriage is an arbitrary one. Not that I believe they’ll last, as a result… I don’t. They seem deeply incompatible.
Don’t get bummed out Aysla! I suffer from depression (runs in my family too and I don’t find relief w/a meds only plan) and I’ve been in therapy for many many years. I don’t see an end in sight and I’m ok with that. It’s a tool that I use that helps me and when you suffer from any sort of psychological disorder I say use all the tools (therapy, yoga, nutrition are a few that have helped me) you need!! You should be proud that you are taking care of your health and don’t let narrow-minded people get you down.
I once had a boyfriend break-up with me because he found one of my depression meds, Prozac, in my medicine cabinet (we hadn’t been dating long so I hadn’t told him about my depression yet). He called me ‘crazy’ and wanted nothing to do with me, almost like I had a disease that he could catch. THAT is the ignorance level of some people — and those are the people that probably need therapy even more than me!
Much strenght to the both of you. I also have mental health issues and it’s no picknick reading some comments here.
Working out helped for a while for me but once I break the habit, I fall in a black hole real fast. But nutrition and exercise DO help in my experience. I’m medication averse which makes my life harder than it should be I suppose. I don’t see it ending either so I have to control it at the very least.
People don’t realise that how they comment online is also a commentary on society in general but they think because they’re ragging on celebs that their opinion only applies to one human being and that they can switch opinions like tap water depending if they like celeb A or not. And even if that would be the case: wth did she do to those people for them to judge her so harshly for seeking help?
And I’m not a fan of her either, she and Theroux are probably done in the spring or something and I have more things to say about her but attacking her mental health? Nah, I’m not going there. Nobody deserves that.
Good for all of you for recognizing your issues and seeking help. Therapy, imo, is hard work. Kudos for sticking to it for the long term. I have found that different interventions work better at different times in my life but steady healthy nutrition and regular exercise are key for me. And therapy or medication or both at times when the going gets extra tough. As Artemis said, much strength to you all!
emmie_a: You’re definitely right. Sometimes I get a lot of flak from people because I love to research nutrition and the benefits of certain foods in the way they can aid your mental, physical, and emotional health, or they’ll see me embark on a new clean-eating diet and exercise program…. and I frequently get a lot of derision or eye-rolls from certain friends and family, in response. But they don’t understand that these are all things I do because I want to better care for myself, that sometimes I get this feeling of desperation that I will never be “normal” or happy and even doing things like this makes me think I’m being proactive about it, rather than caving in to that feeling of desperation. My depression and anxiety is something I will have to manage for the rest of my life. I’m so sorry that you had to go through that with your ex. That’s a conversation I dread at the thought of meeting someone new; I want them to really give me a chance as a person without just seeing the mental illness label when they look at me. At this point, only my best friends and family members are aware.
Artemis, you’re too right. This was the toughest year for me, emotionally. I was a complete wreck, but I finally feel like I’m rebounding from it and I can attribute that completely to better nutrition, exercise, and simply talking about it. I can be very chatty about things, but I have always been very reserved and reticent when it comes to talking about how I feel and my emotional problems. I’ve made a clear effort to change that this year, and my emotional state/mood feels a lot more stable right now. For anyone going through something similar: when it comes to nutrition, I’ve found that clean eating helps. Avoid sugary drinks and junk food, reduce your salt intake, incorporate lots and lots of vegetables into your diet, eat more fruit, take in more Omega-3s (Take a supplement! Look at EPA/DHA total), make an effort to move around more and get regular exercise (dance to your favorite youtube videos, go for a run, join a gym, whatever works for you), etc.
Thanks Esmom. Keep at it, ladies 🙂 We all deserve to be happy and well.
@Aysla,
I don’t want to “hog” this thread or get all wordy, I just wanted to tell you to hang in there. I admire the way that you are going about dealing with your mental health. Believe me, many people even after diagnosis do not want to do the hard work that it takes to get well. Anyone giving you “flak” for that is just blessedly ignorant but ignorant nonetheless.
As to partners, there is one out there for you. If my group ( and me, for that matter) can find that someone special with all of our issues then it’s possible for anyone and, yes, that is with honesty about mental health included. That someone will just have to be special…and who wants anyone who isn’t anyway?
Aysla: I should’ve added this to what I wrote about my ex-boyfriend… After him I absolutely dreaded having to tell a new boyfriend (or even a new friend) about my illness. But I’ve found that when you find the right guy (or maybe the wrong guy for you, but still a good person!) or a true friend – they don’t even care that you have mental health issues or that you’re taking meds. Not that they don’t care about you and your health, but your issues aren’t an issue with them.
And I totally agree w/what you and Artemis say about diet/nutrition and exercise. It’s made a HUGE difference in my recovery. It’s a lot of work and it’s easy to get side-tracked but it’s soo worth it! — And I’ve had family & friends make comments about my health habits and the things I do to keep my depression in check and it still irks me sometimes – so I don’t have any great advice about that, except I guess when I feel good and am taking care of myself, it doesn’t bother me as much because I’m in a good place… but yeah, I wish they’d mind their own business!
Agree 100%. An Aniston post is always messy though.
There are people who needs meds + therapy their whole life, who would say in their face how ‘abnormal’ that is? That’s enough for somebody to give up hope because the hardest part of mental health issues, is the stigma around it. The uncaring reactions of society. Even friends and family can say hurtful things and people don’t realise because mental health is such a complicated concept. Therapy is the first step so if somebody acknowledges their problem(s) then good for them. It might prevent a serious mental health issue or can keep it at bay.
Same for couples therapy, there is nothing wrong with an objective listener. Pitt and Aniston didn’t work because they were incompatible, maybe she and Theroux are not meant for each other too and maybe therapy can help them figure things out that they themselves can’t or won’t. Never would I suggest that therapy is a bad thing because asking for help is a big deal. Acknowledging that things are not OK or that they might not be OK in the future is a big deal. That’s not a weakness imo.
As for your last paragraph: the paradox is complete no? If therapy is bad and Aniston must be messed up then where is the solution? She doesn’t deserve help despite being messed up? It does say a lot about people and their opinion on mental health problems and it ain’t pretty. Hating on Aniston is no excuse to deny or dismiss help for people who need it.
Very eloquent Artemis and I agree completely. I think some people just don’t have any experience with mental illness personally or thru a loved one. I hate the stigma attached to therapy and/or meds.
Also, if you are involved with someone, particularly romantically, and that person wants to involve you in a therapy session, I don’t see what’s wrong with that. Now if a partner doesn’t want to be involved then, perhaps, it would be best if both were to just find someone else. For family, it has been my experience that family members are only too happy to give all the support that they can and that includes therapy sessions.
Your last sentence was particularly I hope, more to the point of this “mental health” discussion: “Hating on Aniston is no excuse to deny or dismiss help for people who need it. ” As much as I think it isn’t the thing to pick on anyone for their mental health choices, I do hope this is about disliking Anniston because the alternative, that people actually feel this way, is just too sad 🙁
Just to piggyback on what everyone else has said here…I am a rape survivor and I have dormant PTSD and anxiety. My rapes happened over 15 years ago and I honestly thought by this time that I’d be “over it.” But it turns out that (for me anyway), I get PTSD flares every so often despite having done years and years of therapy, CBT, deep breathing, etc.-I’ve tried everything. Long story short, mental health issues do not just “go away” for some people, no matter how much therapy or other treatment you may have had.
@Artemis, who wrote: “As for your last paragraph: the paradox is complete no? If therapy is bad and Aniston must be messed up then where is the solution? She doesn’t deserve help despite being messed up? It does say a lot about people and their opinion on mental health problems and it ain’t pretty. Hating on Aniston is no excuse to deny or dismiss help for people who need it. ”
(Blinks) Who are you talking to and exactly what are you–et al–going on about? No one has dissed Aniston for going to therapy. The subject isn’t about ‘her’ therapy … it’s about the ‘couple’ therapy; which is again about their relationship, not either of them separately.
@Emma, Maya above literally wrote that Aniston must have serious demons and issues if she was still in therapy after 20 years. So, yeah, people on this thread ARE shading HER, not just THEM. No, it wasn’t you and I’m not clear on how you got brought into it, but Maya’s comment is right up there for you to read.
@Emma,
(Blinks back) Artemis’ post was very eloquent and I don’t know how you could have missed her point. She is speaking about mental health issues and choices in general. She, and others, are speaking about their personal experiences and the stigma attached to therapy/meds. I think the posters were very clear and I commend those speaking of such a difficult thing honestly when it is still a societal taboo to do so.
For the record, she addressed the “couples” therapy” that some object to thusly: “Same for couples therapy, there is nothing wrong with an objective listener. Pitt and Aniston didn’t work because they were incompatible, maybe she and Theroux are not meant for each other too and maybe therapy can help them figure things out that they themselves can’t or won’t. Never would I suggest that therapy is a bad thing because asking for help is a big deal. Acknowledging that things are not OK or that they might not be OK in the future is a big deal. That’s not a weakness imo.”
IMO, Artemis’ post was a good post.
@ Tulip Garden
I think more people would be open about their mental problems if they felt they could open up to a partner. It’s horrible to live with a mental health issue and being scared to tell it to your partner because he might think you’re crazy and reading emmie_a’s story, a bad reaction might be more common than I hoped it was. I just tend to not tell people although that’s not good either.
I was talking about the mental health discussion by using Aniston and I do think a lot of people think this way. People can’t cherry pick their opinion, not about serious topics like mental health. I don’t care if a commenter will say something positive about mental health on a CZJ thread, they pretty much showed their true colours when they uses mental health issues against a celeb they don’t like.
@ anon33
Stay strong and don’t let society dictate when you need to ‘get over’ something. Even if you never get over it, that’s fine. You can’t wish such things away, nobody chooses to be sad or anxious. Take your time and even if you don’t get exponentially better, you can still control it. reach goals and live a very fulfilling life!
I found the hardest part to accept the fact that it is part of me, I might not feel ‘me’ but it’s very much me as I take it with me in every aspect of my life.
I got depressed after years of emotional abuse from my grandmother and nobody believing me because ‘old people don’t do that’ or ‘I must have been quite a handful’.
@ Emma
Ok then, I guess you looked at different comments than I and others have.
Look, I’ve seen your posts before, used to be a lurker and I want no business with you on any Jolie, Pitt or Aniston thread because it’s pointless, annoying and it will escalate. We’re not playing this game. Just saying.
*Big Hugs* to you anon33.
To be fair to Maya, I just saw that she wrote a very sincere apology after her initial post, which I appreciate. These posts were discussing/”going on about” her initial post, Emma-theJPlover.
Thank you everyone for the kind words and thank you Maya for the apology.
@Artemis,
The truth of the matter is that with a mental health issue, a person’s partner (and, often, family or even extended family) will always be included even if that person/persons chooses not to acknowledge the issue. I mean included in the sense that a dear one’s mental well-being will affect all of those that care about that person. In the best case scenario the loved one/s will choose to acknowledge the issue and help any way that they can in dealing with the it and it’s repercussions. In the worst case scenario, loved one/s can ignore or deny the mental health problem thereby making it worse for the sufferer and, in affect, worse for themselves too. I agree that family in general and partners in particular can make a world of difference.
As you may have guessed this is a hot button issue for me. Many of my loved ones suffer with mental health issues, some diagnosed and some not. I have been there for them the best that I can. I’m not saying that I’ve been perfect because it is hard but I am trying and while I might tire, I don’t give up. In fact, the reason I addressed Emma at all, I make it a habit not to on these threads, is because this is such an important and personal issue for so many of us.
The point is not the value of therapy or to ridicule anyone who seeks it.
The point is how they’re using this as PR to mend the public’s perception that they’re not getting married. Why would anyone reveal the insights from private therapy to the press?
I think some people, including me are suggesting that being ambivalent about spending time together or marrying doesn’t need treatment. Counselling sure. If counselling helps clarify issues great, but why are people issues getting married anyway? But I guess that’s covered by counselling. Again, why would I call the press to tell them I found out in coounselling that I’m going to spend more time with my fiance?
@Original G,
I don’t even know if Aniston and her partner are in therapy together. I know Anniston herself has acknowledged that she does therapy. My point is that if they are I don’t think that it is a bad thing whether it keeps them together or makes them decide to move on.
As to PR angle, if they are using it for PR than I don’t understand why nor do I understand how it could solidify anyone’s belief that they will or won’t eventually Marry.
@Tulip Garden
I don’t know why she would make her therapy a source of public speculation either. But there it is.
I can say with confidence say that two people who can’t agree how or where to spend time together are not likely to marry. THAT is common sense. People who can’t negotiate that with genuine wholehearted love don’t marry. And that is totally OK.
Counselling can give people insight into their behavior but it can’t make them want something they don’t seem to want to do. Be together.
@original g,
I don’t know that she is making therapy a source of speculation a’ though someone definitely is. I am not saying it is definitely not her, it could be. The daily mail just isn’t a bastion of journalistic integrity, their source could be anyone. Having said that, if t is Anniston then she has made a misstep because most are going to assume that the relationship really has hit the rocks.
Also, agree with your second paragraph.
Also, agree counseling cannot make people want to be together. Counseling I think can be a sign that people do want to be together elsewise why bother? Now whether or not they work out their differences is another thing altogether that is IF there is any validity to the therapy story at all.
@Tulip Garden. I agree that is a very big “IF”
I just don’t think that expressing an opinion like mine is trying to diss therapy, which should be sought for a variety of reason. I hope that fellow celebitches, don’t take some skepticism about this story as an attack on therapy and those who benifit from it. No one is dissing therapy.
@Original G,
I have read so many of your posts that I think highly of you from the get go. I am sure other posters see your usual logic and common sense, I certainly do. Also skepticism about any DM or tabloid story seems reasonable to me. I am a skeptic about it too. I dont think any intelligent reader would think that you are attacking therapy or its benefits. I will say that some here have attacked Aniston’s need for therapy or her partners and that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I do think some of those posters were more interested using any vehicle to attack Anniston than they were anything else.
Anyway, no worries from me😊
@Erinn,
Agree totally with your post. I don’t see how this is even a controversial thing.
She’s not getting ripped for going to therapy, anymore than anyone yesterday was wishing for her relationship to fail. If – and that’s a big IF – they are in couple’s therapy, why is it known publicly? Who uses a personal issue to garner attention? Aniston and her dark lord of PR, that’s who.
Before clicking onto this story I read the story on Penelope Cruz, I read the comments (always the best bit!), and I saw that Penelope was generally lauded for talking about such a stigmatised topic – breastfeeding.
Back on the Celebitchy title page, I saw 150+ comment on the JA story, psyched myself up to enter the maelstrom and, well, here I am. I don’t care for JA one way or another, I really mean that (so please, go easy on me). But, I was delighted to read some really interesting and thoughtful commenter stories on mental health issues, and it was JA’s comments got people talking. Another celebrity discussing a tricky topic – so, how is it approached?
Other topics today include the brandi story, she’s an addict (in denial), charlie sheen, child support and denise richards etc etc. By comparison, not so tricky, or taboo.
Meh…I have Aniston fatigue. I just find her life and all the constant drama (real or manufactured) totally exhausting. Am I the only one who thinks she hasn’t quite left high school behind?
@Shannon1972, who wrote: “Meh…I have Aniston fatigue. I just find her life and all the constant drama (real or manufactured) totally exhausting. Am I the only one who thinks she hasn’t quite left high school behind?”
I think you’re giving her antics WAY too much credit. Jennifer Aniston hasn’t quite left ‘Junior High School’ behind.
Can her fans name 5 interesting and unique things about her that sets her apart from all the other 40 something year old actresses?
How does someone so bland, uninspiring, and PR obsessed have such loyal followers. She lives for attention and has her publicist send out weekly happiness reports to People.
Can’t imagine being a fan of someone who biggest claim to fame is a TV show that ended a decade ago and a divorce that was almost a decade ago.
And you can’t name her hair, body, yoga or MEXICO.
I really don’t like you deliberately impersonating me. Makes a big statement about you.
That said, It was good to read in the article that Jen will be setting up camp in NYC. Jen had a really busy year last year & hopefully she’ll take full advantage of this downtime. Sounds like they’ll be kicking it off with Cabo.
Get over yourself. You’re not the first of last with a name similar to others. Why do you think there are so many Original ___s?
Well considering that her staying in NYC is from the Daily Mail, I would not put much faith in it at all. They make things up you know.
I cannot see her setting up camp in New York unless she has to work there herself.
Also, a busy year? So spending a few weeks playing Rachel in her next rom com, tanning, and going to the spa = really busy?? How insulting to people who really are busy. Her life is a piece of cake.
Yes kicking it off in Cabo, how original and exciting! Not.
to Original G – normally, I would agree with you…
…but as soon as Cecilia changed her nickname to “OCecilia”, another “OCecilia” popped up. like, IMMEDIATELY.
Thanks doofus…this whole thing is transparent, mean-spirited & deliberate.
transparent, mean-spirited & deliberate…to that I’d add “creepy” and “obsessive”.
@The Original G: I agree. It happened to me too..
It has happened to a lot of us. You just change your name a bit. WHat else can you do besides complain to CB?
@OC – she’s not impersonating you. It was obvious to us all that it wasn’t you. And if she mirrored your devotion to Aniston, you wouldn’t have a problem with it.
Wonder if she will claim her Mexico trip is Charity work like she did a few years ago!
She once claimed she was being oh so charitable by staying in a Mexican resort!! What a joke she is. Her words:
“He said to me, ’You come to Mexico all the time and Mexico is really hurting right now because of the swine flu and the drug trafficking and all of this sort of stuff but it’s not all of Mexico.’ These people survive on us coming down and spending money and coming here to these beautiful places. It sort of made sense to sort of say ‘Hey, let’s help out Mexico.’ Let’s shout out to these kids in Tijuana at El Faro. That’s sort of our birthday celebration this year.”
Hello Sal/Maya/Kim1/Andrea1
Hi Maggie…I know, right?? Look at the comment right below & it has already adopted my new OCecilia. I am just going to go back to my original name Cecilia. Anyone with any insight will be able to tell who is who.
Maggie that certainly isn’t Me I always make my points clear whenever I have to make a comment So why should I hide behind someone else I don’t do that shit gal. I go by Andrea1 and am perfectly comfortable with that.
I don’t use other names ,dear but thanks for thinking about me.I’m flattered .How’s your DDG husband ,today?
As for this tabloid story People mag claim they will spend Christmas in Cabo.Either way I can’t wait to see the sarongs and wraps she bought to cover her baby bump.BTW I don’t believe counseling story.
Andrea 1, my apologies for grouping you with the mean widdo kids.
Hello Maggie/Cecilia/Holly/Doofus
Why the big ‘whoop’ about another Cecilia posting anyway? You don’t ‘own’ the name.
Another ‘Emma’ started posting at ‘Celebitchy’ shortly after I started posting here. I didn’t make a big production about it, I simply added something to my name as a personal identifier. That way, if someone really ‘is’ goofing on you, you’ll know it right away. Otherwise, just let it go already.
Emma– the new Cecilia person then changed her name to OCecilia (which the old Cecilia changed it to when the new Cecilia person popped up in this thread). It’s not a coincidence of names anymore, this person just doesn’t like the original poster.
Come on ffs, we all know that the original Cecelia wouldn’t have written that, it’s not the end of the world if someone is having a bit of fun with it , she’s not making disgusting statements, just the opposite of what is normallly posted under that name, she doesn’t have a divine right to the name, I’ve had to change mine once as another popped up the same.
Man, Aniston needs to get a life and stop reporting every single second to the tabloids.
Can’t believe Justin has stayed around this long!
But wait, he get to drive her Benz, gets private plane rides, gets GQ covers, goes on Ellen, gets in People’s sexiest list (paid for of course). He is living the life and gets to spend most of it in NYC away from her.
Are you Cecilia or Ocecilia stick to one So we can know the difference between Cecilia the aniston fan and you.
Um… listen. This is all gossip, in the end. You know, really silly and unimportant stuff? Most of us like this stuff to pass the time at work or get through boring spells at home. None of us know any of these famous people personally. It’s not so serious. Especially to misrepresent a fellow poster, which makes it seem like you take opinions opposite to yours too much to heart.
Cecilia does not own the name Cecilia, nor does she own the name OCecilia.
People can use whatever name they like and to get so bent out of shape over user names is odd.
Misrepresent? It is a gossip forum, not the government!
The gist of it is: people who post here tend to post regularly. That’s why there’s so much banter and discussion beyond the gossip in the posts, it’s an online “community” of sorts. You’re right that no one owns a name on here, but even if it’s a gossip site I know most people wouldn’t like other people to believe they said something when they didn’t. Why not just stick to a name, so she can have a static name too?
Thanks, Aysla
Maybe he is finding it harder to break up with his cash cow than he thought. What if his TV job fizzles? Then what? Back to Zoolander?
I keep hearing rumors she is gay. Is there anything to that idea? It would probably hurt her image and movie offers to come out as gay, so better to have a semi- boyfriend.
I agree-he’s not letting go until that gravy train has gotten farther from the station. And if it involves marrying her, so be it. And if it involves holding out on marriage to get a better pre-nup, that’s part of it too. I’m projecting, of course, but that smile in the top photo says more “Ka-ching!” than “I’m so in love” to me.
I can not stand her and I have no idea why.
Join the club.
move over
Really? The constant use of her divorce, her unending search for true love, her “poor Jen” persona, her gravid and/or barren uterus to gain public attention and sympathy, the fact that a middle aged woman has nothing more profound to discuss than her hair, that she condemned Jolie as a home wrecker, then did the same thing to a 14year relationship – that’s not enough for you?
Since they’ve been living apart, it begs the question how the said counselling occured? I do read an admission there, that they’ve living apart and that there are issues.
Anyway, I wish she’d stop leading with her relationship and keep it private. Maybe this just isn’t working out or leading to marriage. Nothing wrong with that. But having your affections PR’d is a very bad idea.
As for counselling. You’re not married, why bother? Why not find someone right for you instead of trying to make yourselves into sombody else. Counselling is for a rough patch in a long term relationship or to negotiate the end. Meh.
Eh, I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing that you go to counseling before you get married–but I’m more interested in WHEN did that occur. Because they’ve been apart for a while, so I don’t see how they could work through any substantial issues if they are apart. I just don’t understand why she runs to the tabloids—she has pulled back, at least recently (I’m still remembering that time when Huvane issued a statement that she DIDN’T eat baby food to stay thin, to a tabloid that said that).
If I were a celeb, IF I went to any tabloids at all, I’d go to PEOPLE. I’d let them run a ‘refuting the rumors’ or ‘our life together’ cover every once in a while, but in no way would I have my pr running to every tabloid stirring up sh-t. Why did her publicist (if he did–otherwise, where did the ‘exclusive’ tag come from?) go to the Dailymail??? Ignore that sh-t, work through your problems (if you want).
I don’t know–I never had any doubts about their relationship at all until that f-ckery with PEOPLE happened.
She seems incredibly high maintenance to me. I know she’s supposed to be America’s Sweetheart and all that, but ugh. She seems like she’d be a gigantic pain in the ass.
http://www.celebitchy.com/236639/jennifer_aniston_tells_friends_that_sex_saved_her_relationship_with_justin/
From almost a year ago. round 2.
The old sex saved her relationship makes total sense to me. Jennifer has always used sex as a business tool. The stories of her trading sexual favors for extra lines or better jokes during “Friends” were detailed in a lawsuit filed by one of the writers. The all access and willing to do anything but with ZERO passion or enthusiasm has been voiced by many of her very long list of former male sexual partners. Justin was probably close to the breaking point until she was forced to at least act like she enjoyed being sexually active with him.
I applaud her for going to counseling because she seems to have some serious self esteem issues.
*snickers*
We’ll see what happens. I’m just wondering who talked to them–because of the ‘exclusive’ label. Huvane???? Why would he talk to a tabloid like the Dailymail? That’s what I don’t get. Just ignore it. If they hadn’t tried to steal the thunder, the day after the Oscars, then they wouldn’t need to be talking to the Dailymail. If you’re in love, and are happy to wait for your wedding–then DON’T go to PEOPLE with every little tidbit, and then get upset when people start questioning if you’re going to get married or not.
” with a guest list to rival the Oscars.” It seem something written by Goop’s publicist !
GOOP and JA share the same publicist, so there is your connection between the two..
So, they have time for tree shopping, baby showers, holiday parties, counseling and Cabo but no wedding?
How hard would it have been to turn the “holiday party” with their nearest and dearest PR guru’s client list into a wedding with a JoP? If you want to be married, you find a way.
All of these stories just sound like more groundwork being laid for the break-up.
“Just-Jen: They tried everything!”
“Jen and Justin: We love each other, but just couldn’t make it work – the counselor said so!”
“Justin: I wanted to marry her, but her hair said no.”
Exactly, perfect time of year for a party/wedding.
Exactly.
LMAO at “her hair said no”!
I gotta admit, that is pretty darned funny. *talk to the hair*
Lol, a budding Liberty. Where is she, btw?
Jennifer Aniston is my personal hero and the love of my life. He beauty is unsurpassed and I have so much respect for her. I can’t believe that Brad Pitt cheated on her with that skanky home wrecker Angelina Holie – she has had so much plastic surgery, is a heroin addict and is anorexic. Her charity work is completely disingenuous and she is a terrible mother. It’s blatantly obvious she got pregnant to trap him and now the miserable couple is pretending to be together for the sake of their brand. Did I mention I love her? She’s so pretty!
*strange things afoot @ Celebitchy*
That was funny, Sal!
Well, that rules it out as being Sal ;-).
My therapist once told me that anyone that tells you that they’ve been to therapy and the therapist said “you don’t need therapy, in reality, the therapist probably said they should come in a few times a week.” Everyone can benefit from therapy. Who are we to judge? What a bunch of judgmental harpies. Maybe you should try to be more like your leader, Angelina, who you all worship, but yet, bare no resemblence. My guess is she’d be mortified to see the true colors of her fans. And let’s not all play this game like you don’t know who or what I’m talking about. yawn. or should I say *sigh…?
People who live in glass house shouldn’t throw stones.
Same can be said for Jen I’m sure she too would be mortified at how judgemental and nasty her fans are .
Oh, have you mistaken us for fans?
I don’t get the uproar over therapy. I don’t think anyone is putting down going to therapy. That is not what I’m seeing. I think many people are curious why if she said she and he are so happy why they need to be in therapy. That is not a dig at people seeking help for some mental or emotional help/support.
I think many are wondering why this new couple needs help in a relationship they have said is the best.
some people are making this about something it is not.
and since you are a JA fan.. please don’t wag your finger at anyone. I have read the most nasty vile things on this site from Aniston’s fans. And funny how you never had a problem when those things were directed elsewhere. But now all of a sudden you all have such a sensitive moral stance. Take a look through the archives and see what the JA fans have said. Then come back and talk. It is like you all have blocked the last 8 years from your mind. And you act as if because Angie/Brad are getting some positive comments now that it has always been that way. It is not. Look at the comments about Angie’s weight.. or her children or Brad.
Please.
@Lisa2, who wrote: “It is like you all have blocked the last 8 years from your mind. And you act as if because Angie/Brad are getting some positive comments now that it has always been that way. It is not. Look at the comments about Angie’s weight.. or her children or Brad.”
Well said. Not to mention all of the horrible things written here in response to Brad Pitt’s “W” magazine photo shoot of Angelina Jolie breastfeeding the twins.
I think Jen fans do a weird kind of ‘projection’ thing, where they deflect away from any negative flaw Jen has by tying it into something personal about ‘themselves.’ Then we’re all ‘monsters’ for being inconsiderate of the ‘poster’ … and thereby, Jennifer Aniston. It’s the strangest thing, but it happens over and over again. Just look at this thread. They’ve completely turned the discussion away from Justin and Jennifer going to/feeling the need for ‘Couples Therapy’ in order to fix things so they can get married, to their own personal experiences with therapy/mental health issue. Strange, since the vast amount of comments have simply been about ‘why’ a compatible couple would ‘need’ Couples therapy prior to marriage ‘AND’ feel the need to let the public know about the therapy.
I think therapy for a time is probably positive, but therapy for your entire life seems like you cannot deal with reality, and cannot move on. At some point, you need to focus less on yourself and your problems and move on and grow up. I could see therapy for years if one was abused, but therapy for years for someone who seems to lead a pretty self-indulgent life seems like more indulgence.
Good points.
I totally disagree with your thoughts on therapy, but keeping this relevant to Jennifer Aniston — even if she was indulging herself by going to therapy, how is that a problem? Everyone I know has their indulgences and who am I to judge or deny them those things.
And you are an authority based on what? Why are you an expert on mental health and therapy treatment lengths? Why do you give a f how long someone else works on themselves for?
@Josephine …
Well said!
Every comment is from all the AJ fans I expected. Thanks for being so predictable. haha… As always, I’m being devil’s advocate. I don’t care what she does. If you do follow my posts you can’t believe I’m a “jen hen.” I just like to call a spade a spade. Why not just own who you are?
P.S. I don’t know anything about “W;” I don’t read it.
@Marina, who wrote: “P.S. I don’t know anything about “W;” I don’t read it.”
The “W” magazine cover story/photo shoot in question is up above in the ‘We Recommend” section, just below Kaiser’s name. Angie is on the cover in a black and white photo nursing one of the twins (you can see their tiny hand reaching out from the blanket in the lower right-hand corner of the photo).
So what on earth was the point of him dropping her off and then picking her up a few hours later at EB’s baby shower, if not SOLELY for the photo-op?? Not exactly like they have to share one vehicle. Smells like damage control to me.
Because she might be drinking? My DH does that for me.
From a baby shower???! I think it would be beyond crass for her to drink to the point she cannot drive herself home from a baby shower. If those are the two choices, I certainly hope it WAS because of JustJen PR.
You do not need to drink that much to be over the legal limit.
Jackson: I had the same exact thought. It was a photo-op. The pics showed a few other guests who had driven themselves and in general baby showers aren’t huge booze-fests.
Jennifer and Justin began “Couples Therapy” sessions almost immediately after they started dating, at Jennifer’s insistence.
At this stage they’re just going through the motions until they have a suitable exit strategy in place.
I don’t think the fact that they have not gotten married is a big deal. People can marry when they want.
She has been in therapy for years. I think since she was 17. if you every listen to her speak she sounds like a self help book. IIRC she said she reads those all the time.
She and her ex husband well he went into therapy a year after the marriage. And has not gone back. That was more her than him, because she said they were having a hard time at the beginning of the marriage. I don’t know if she and Justin are together or not. But I have noticed that she spends too much time addressing tabloid stories.
Besides this story is like all the others before and the ones that will follow. Nothing much at all.
I agree. Nothing to see here folks…
I have a question though, do you or any of her MEGA fans know what happened to that perfume she put out? I don’t think it was for sale anywhere that I saw in my country and yet there are always a ton of celeb fragrances (going for cheap I might add) available for sale here though. Have never seen Anistons however.
Honey I am in no freaking way a fan of Jennifer aniston. Not now, NEVER.
I can look at things in an objective way and be honest in my comments. Based on what she has said and not tabloid things. I don’t know what happened to that perfume. I think it was something she got into without research. If she had researched as you should when you are putting out a product then she would have know the name she was plugging and hinting at some story behind was already take.
Her fans don’t talk about the perfume. But then they don’t talk about much outside her hair, body and ..well what she talks about.
Oh lisa2 don’t bite my head off girl! I’m a looooong time poster here and I’m well aware of your feelings on Aniston lol.
I was only curious as her perfume venture seemed to fizzle out/disappear and I was curious as to what may have happened with it. It mustn’t have been that much of a roaring success (as her fans like to make out everything she does)…
I think her fragrance is still available on the Sephora website.
Good question. I have never seen that perfume in any store in NYC since it came out. The initial marketing campaign was a disaster. Maybe that had something to do with it. I remember it was a photo of her all wet, wrapped in a towel or a blanket, sitting hunched up on a rocky beach looking like she was having menstrual cramps. I don’t think the marketing ever recovered from that picture.
It’s been on sale for $8 for over a year. My mom sampled it and wasn’t a fan to be honest.
Camille… sorry my comment was meant to be cheeky.. not snarky..
I don’t think she really did much to promote it outside the initial launch. She has not spoken of it to my knowledge. When she talks about hair stuff and water ect. She never talks about the fragrance. But no one else talks about it either.
It’s really bizarre isn’t it, that it has just… disappeared/never turned up in stores etc. I guess no one wanted to smell of sand, sea, tears and desperation then? 😉
You can get her perfume at Walmart.
@Camille: Right before it was launched some websites had a name-the-perfume contest, and I believe “Desperation” was one of the top three contenders.
This string of stories has been about so little but it has kept their names in the papers.
Yup. It has a whiff of Kartrashian PR ploy about it.
I sort of aagree — but WHY? Is her life so empty that she needs constant public feedback? If so, her PR team is making her look like an idiot with all the ‘I’m soo happpeee and my life is wonderful’ stories because if that were really true, she wouldn’t need all this PR – she’d be too busy enjoying her life. I don’t get what angle her team is coming from. Maybe it’s just for her product endorsements? Or job opportunities? But why be so public about everything?
“I feel most beautiful when I AM TOTALLY OVER BRAD AND NOT AT ALL CONCERNED ABOUT HIS CURRENT RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT MAN-STEALING SUCCUBUS WHOSE NAME I DON’T RECALL AND I NEVER WATCH THAT EPISODE OF ‘FRIENDS’ WITH BRAD IN IT ON MY IPAD OVER AND OVER AGAIN WHILE HUDDLED ON THE FLOOR OF MY SHOE CLOSET SO PLEASE DON’T ASK ME ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT IS ALL IN THE PAST AND I’M WITH … UM … OH! JUSTIN! RIGHT! … NOW AND DID I MENTION I’M TOTALLY OVER THE BETRAYAL AND DIVORCE?”
I’m probably overanalysing, but I sense Aniston’s need to vacation at the same place at the same time every year dovetails with her ongoing need for therapy. Perhaps an anxiety about new or different things? Changes to her patterns?
I know she’s flown to other places, but why Mexico? Only Mexico? It’s really intriguing to me.
A lot of people vacation at the same spot year after year…..I guess I don’t see the intrigue. 🙂