I’m using some older photos of Prince William and Kate Middleton (as she was then) from before they were married. I’m doing this because this is a vintage-y kind of royal story. Again, I haven’t been following all of the British media hacking trials with any kind of consistency – I just read the odd story on The Mail or The Telegraph, depending on whether the story is about a specific royal. And this is a really good one!
The News of the World – the now-defunct Rupert Murdoch publication – hacked into the phone accounts of Prince William, Prince Harry, Chelsy Davy and Kate Middleton back in the day. The heyday of these hacking activities seems to have been 2004 through 2007-ish. Which was a prime moment in royal gossip – Kate and William graduated from university in 2005, and many thought William would quickly propose to Kate soon after they graduated, but nothing came. 2006 passed with William spending most of the year at Sandhurst, undergoing his military training. Towards the end of the year, William seemed to have some kind of romantic wanderlust, which came to a head in early 2007, when he and Kate broke up. They ended up getting back together (“for good”) by the early summer of 2007. Anyway, the hacking trial has revealed some interesting stuff about their relationship during that 2006 time period. And it’s cuter than you think.
Intimate messages between Prince William and Kate William when they were dating were revealed in court today in the News of The World hacking trial. William’s pet nickname for his future wife before they were married was ‘Babykins’, jurors at the Old Bailey heard.
Transcripts of the voicemail messages between the couple who became the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge when they married were read out in court. They were discovered by detectives investigating hacking allegations against the now-defunct News of the World.
William, who left the messages while he was training at Sandhurst military academy, calls his future wife ‘Babykins’ and ‘Baby’, tries to arrange to meet up, and also tells her that he would love to see her if it is not too late or she is busy at the gym.
In one message, sent after he has finished training, William tells her he nearly got shot in an ambush on an exercise. The story appeared in the News of the World – ‘William shot in ambush’ – in January 2006.In a voicemail read out by prosecutor Andrew Edis QC, William starts by saying ‘Hi baby’ adding: ‘I had a busy day today again. I’ve been running around the woods of Aldershot chasing shadows and getting terribly lost, and I walked into some other regiment’s ambush, which was slightly embarrassing because I nearly got shot. Not by live rounds but by blank rounds, which would be very embarrassing though. Um, er, yeah, I’m off on exercise tomorrow morning, just for the day, and then I’m back on Saturday first thing, erm, so I probably won’t be able to speak to you tomorrow night.’
He then told her he might send her ‘a cheeky text message’ because he might have his phone with him before signing off: ‘All right, baby, lots of love, um, speak to you soon. Bye bye.’
Among the details of the voicemails discovered by detectives at the home of private investigator Glenn Mulcaire was a call from William in which he said: ‘My head’s all right. I’ve just picked up your message. Oh, my little babykins! I hope you are all right. I just tried ringing you but I do not thing you would pick it up because it is 5.35am in the morning so it is probably not a very good time to ring you. I hope you are all right.’
In another message William says: ‘Hello baby, it’s me. Sorry I did not ring you earlier and tell you what I was doing. Been a bit of a nightmare day. I think I would just about be finished in a minute. It has just gone six but I don’t think I will be able to leave here til about seven. I have got stuff here to do, bits and pieces, but I should be able to leave at about 7 at the least. Crack on with what you have got to do and don’t worry about me . I will give you a buzz later. I always thought you were going to the gym. Hopefully I can come and see you. I will give you an update. Planning on definitely coming out, hopefully by sevenish, so I will be with you by quarter to eight at the latest. Hope that’s all right, baby. I can’t wait to see you. Lots of love and I’ll speak to you later.’
In one call from William, he talks of wanting to go on a ‘beagling’ drag hunt.
In the call, he said: ‘ Hi honey, it’s me. I’m back in the small land of Sandhurst. A couple of pretty nasty days on exercise. Decided to just enjoy them. I am feeling a bit sh-tty at the moment but hope you are OK. Lovely to speak to you … You are probably very busy working but if there is any chance you are free, maybe later this afternoon or evening, I might be able to get out. I am going to try and go out beagling again and then come to you afterwards. So if you are around at home this evening I would love to see you. Let me know. Give me a text or ring back. I am around about the rest of the day.’
So, we’re learning some new stuff. For one, William is a detailed phone-message-leaver. It’s not just “Hey, it’s Will, call me back.” He carries on conversations with his messages. It’s sweet – it seems like he really was missing her and thinking about her while he was at Sandhurst. We’ve also learned that it seems like Kate was, like, never answering her phone, right? How often was she at the gym?! Also: “babykins”?! Baby is fine. Honey is sweet. But “Babykins”? No judgment.
Also – remember, William called her “Poppet” after she gave birth to George too. I think Poppet is cuter than Babykins.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Me too!! Poppet for the win! (Ive been calling my slutty dogs poppets since then! So A poppet and a Babykins will work well for me too!)
Awww. I remember when my husband called me cute baby names too. Now that we have toddlers, we just slip up and accidentally call each other “Mommy” and “Daddy” all the time like a bunch of creepers.
LMAO!
My inlaws do that. It never fails to give their 3 children and myself a good cringe!
Duchess Babykins! I like it.
At least this reveals that prior to marrying her he actually seemed very in love with her, very doting, which is something many of us were starting to doubt.
Babykins is stupidkins…
I prefer romantic nicknames like “Hey you”, “Whatjamacallit” or “Whosiewhatsit”…
Baby, Honey, Sexy, Hubby, and any variation of is just sickening and intolerable.
It’s Izzy, OiYou, or WhatsHerFace.
Holy Hair! It’s still a bit shocking to me he lost it so fast.
No judgement on Babykins. Sometimes pet names just evolve into a bunch of cute words morphed together. Honeykins is pretty easy to get stuck saying too.
And of course the only things found that gets printed from this cell phone hack on Will and Kate will be all cute and affectionate. No way they would get away with printing the texts about all the fights and details regarding such.
This article just seems to be a reminder to the public that they are in love and William has a great relationship with Kate while Harry dated needy Chelsy.
Exactly, nicknames often start out as jokes and then just so happen to stick!
I love all the sweetness and affection…but I really want to hear the fights!!!! I know I am a terrible person.
As to Chelsy, I was sad that “they” have tried to portray her as needy because I feel it is probably another nail in the coffin (of their already buried, I know) relationship. 🙁 I really liked her. I am not a Cressida fan…not that he cares.
Oh Florc,
When I saw the headline my first thought was, ‘How nice if them to whitewash their messages.’ Because I’d bet Chelsy & Harry’s messages were very similar…
*Waves over-nourished petals*
I think Harry and Chelsy’s messages were similar too! I really think that as all four clubbed together quite a bit and I think that the brothers are close that that period of time is kind of like a “golden age” for them (all four). All the relationship drama, the in love happiness, and all the boozy hanging out together just having a good time.
*idly considers if Secret Squirrel will show up and, perhaps, sneak some more fertilizer…back to LadySlippers but only because guilt and shame is never a good look* *Remembers Secret Squirrel could sneak in opposite direction too…hmmm*
First, Secret Squirrel has to dig out a ‘goody’ she planted close to me (too close) to help her winter over. The damn thing is growing and leaving those roots to starve. 🙁
But I suppose she could retrieve her nut *and* slip me some yummies for my tummies at the same time.
*slightly mollified*
That’s assuming, my dear Tulip, she isn’t snoozing as we might get a nasty storm coming through soon.
LS
I bet Chelsy and Harry’s were the cutest messages. When you look closer at that story the article didn’t print 1 message of a fight or to support the tag of needy. It just gave a number of texts sent and received during a perios of time during an event in Harry’s life. The whole article was based on a huge assumption that they just couldn’t support. I think that says a lot about how in love they were.
I also think this cute article is to counter a possible future article of the fights and breakups Will and Kate had. They’re laying the foundation of a defense.
TA-DAH!!!!!
Oh, you’ve all gone to bed.
*frowns at being only one awake*
I can’t help it that I heard about a hot chestnut vendor on the other side of the park and I “gots to get me some”. I have only just limped back to my tree after being tea-towel flicked by the vendor (who for some reason didn’t fall for my dewy brown squirrel eyes or appreciate me biting him on the foot to get his attention), almost run over by a bike, chased up a light post by a Dalmatian, rained on whilst stuck up a light post, kami-kazi somersaulted from the light post to the nearest tree (and by now there are three Dalmatians and a Corgi), being accosted by another squirrel with personal space issues and then finally having to make the final dash to home with 16 Dalmatians, a Corgi, two black swans and a policeman’s horse on my tail.
*hugs trunk of tree called home and vows never to leave it again*
Well thank goodness Squirrel your safe now in our garden.
My… Wait — corgis? Those vile little dogs OH *shudder*. Can run? And being chased (I’m guessing) is no fun.
But what adventure! *eyes wide open in fascination and appreciation* You’re like, like the Indiana Jones of the garden and that’s… That’s so cool.
*abashedly* Tulip and I are kinda stuck here… So I think we bicker like siblings to make the day a tad more interesting…
By the way I meant a vendor who sells hot chestnuts, not a chestnut vendor who is hot. Believe me, the guy looked like one of my acorns after it has been stored incorrectly in my pantry. All wrinkly with fuzzy…
Oh my. Those wrinkly ones are best…. Left where we can’t see them.
But enough jabbering. You gonna move this ‘goody’ that’s starting to grow and crowd my roots? Or am I gonna have to get feisty on you?
*side eyes Squirrel*
Babykins don’t work to hard today
I love Babykins. It reminds me of the pet name of the brother, Tibbikins, in Howards End. I am going to start using, “Crack on with what you’ve got to do blah blah blah.”
i dont think we should read those messages. they are not only very private but also they way they were published was through a criminal act.
Sarah
We are not reading those messages. We’re reading articles written by those who did read those messages. And we’re not getting the bad stuff. At least not from William or Kates phone. We’re getting the approved messages. When William tries to sue someone again it’s likely it was done without his OK. This is a positive PR story. So, even though it was obtained through criminal actions the wronged parties seem to be ok with this kind of information being printed.
I agree. These are private messages. Not sure why they were made public because of the hacking trials. Doesn’t that just violate the Royals all over again. Yes, it’s nice that they are sweet messages and yes it’s a great relief that Will does not feel the need to wish he were Kate’s tampon a la dear old dad.
On another note, look how much hair Will has in these photos.
@Flord,
All evidence in criminal trials is public domain and you can’t be sued over it unless it’s malicious perjury (that’s why people are so scathing about Saatchi’s motives in the criminal trial at the moment). William has no way to stop this evidence coming out. It doesn’t mean he’s okay with it (though it does seem likely the prosecution selected the most inocuous ones so as to limit the invasion of privacy aspects, and you do wonder why that same courtesy wasn’t extended to Chelsy). But given his obsessive privacy mania, I doubt he’s happy wth this at all. This isn’t run or organised by the Palace and isn’t PR.
Alright K.
Everything coming out now can be printed. You’re right. It doesn’t mean it should be printed. However, It’s unlikely the negative was going to get printed. It certainly would have sold more copies. The press is still playing nice with William. This seems more likely to be PR related because it’s sugary sweet and painting a picture of a couple that never had a bad moment. While Chelsy and Harry got the opposite.
And William is obsessed with privacy and image control. So obsessed I wouldn’t put it past him to be able to halt the printing of stories using this info if he chose. It’s happened before.
Bottom line is this info is out and it plays to William’s good side without a hint of the bad. I would like to hear from a seasoned royaloonie here like Sachi, Bluhare, LAK, or Lady LadySlippers of the Loon realm.
He can’t halt the media printing evidence given in a criminal trial. It’s protected speech. He could have halted it otherwise because it’s private conversation obtained by criminal means, but you can’t stop the press printing any evidence of a criminal trial, because that’s a protection extended to the defendants. It doesn’t matter who you are, you can’t put that genie back in the bottle – and in cases like this the public cram the galleries so it isn’t as though the blogosphere wouldn’t be rife with it.
Of course, someone leaning on the prosecution so no embarrassing messages were used to make the case is a whole different issue. That’s completely possible – these messages are faintly embarrassing but not at all scandalous, I mean, they could have used ones from fights instead. It’s notable they used messages that showed Chelsy in a bad light, too, definitely. But whatever messages were used in evidence would have been printed by the media. There was no way the press would have sat on them. The prosecution just didn’t use them, and that’s where you should be looking if you think someone has been applying pressure, I think.
You are absolutely right on this one, Florc.
K, I do believe that all evidence used by the prosecutor, which is revealed to the public, has been approved by the BRF beforehand. Chelsy is put in a bad light because she’s gone, and we need to make way for the new gal. They also need to remind the public that Will and Kate are the Great Love Story of the BRF.
Some Great Love Story – when the man was asked to comment on Mandela’s passing, with his wife beside him who had gone through the very same emotional roller coaster of watching the film on Mandela and then learning of his passing, remarked that Mandela’s family was in “HIS thoughts and prayers,” not “theirs” or in the thoughts and prayers of “my wife and I.” Very telling.
At one point he was in love with her. He no longer is.
Roselia
William has shown himself to be very single minded. If i’m using the term correctly.
When around Kate there isn’t a lot of affection shown. He walks ahead, rarely gestures to her, compliments her, helps her up stairs or out of cars…etc…
It’s about him and his thoughts. That’s my take and i’ve seen little evidence of affection once he Canada tour ended (where I think was the last time they looked genuinely in love). With all of that said I think the passion and infatuation is gone, but he loves her. He has love for her and her family and his son with her. And at this point he will defend her honor, but imo only because she being his wife is an extention of himself.
My favorite quote was “you are
probably very busy working…”
Lol!
I have always said I thought it was true that she worked long hours for her family business. It might not have been challenging or sophisticated work (PR) worthy of a future princess- she could have been in the mail room filling orders to ship out- but, I think she worked hard.
I worked (forced) for my family business and it was always all hands on deck when needed, no adherence to 9-5 hours. Only moving away released me from the guilt trips and pressure to come in after hours. Their company was very successful and very busy when she was involved so, I’m sure there was always something to be done.
I’ve always thought that she worked for the family business too as opposed to just saying that she did. I am not suggesting that she was by any means working herself into catatonia or anything. I just think that Kate probably views her mother as a role model and Carol Middleton came through for her family in a big way and, regardless of what else might be said about her, that is hard work. So in line with that admiration for Carol, I think Kate would have been proud of that quality in Carol and tried to emulate it particularly because it is the family business and some take enormous pride in that. Of course, there can be differing opinions about the definition of “worked hard” but, in general, I think she tried to make a respectable showing so as not to shame herself and her mother along with her mother’s legacy. JMO
It’s very possible that she was helping out regularly – probably throughout her life or at least until she moved to Anglesly. I still think that it was set up so she could drop whatever she was doing when Will needed her, though, and certainly whenever a vacation was on offer. That’s not an insult, just a practical observation, and hey, it all worked out for her so more power to them.
What I really would love to know is how Carole Middleton mined a living – and quite a prosperous one – out of Party Pieces. It just doesn’t seem to be a money maker to me – but I live in the land of Target/Walmart/Kmart, where you can get those type of party favors cheaply and quickly. Maybe it’s different in Britain.
Here’s the thing about Kate working for PP. Over 8 years time she had a few photos of items she took on the website and had a photographer’s credit. Her schedule was always open for William’s spontanious vacations.
Carol was and is an incredibly driven woman and hard worker. Judging from her behavior towards Kate she didn’t seem to want that for her. Kate was pampered and not expected to do much past getting that ring from William. If Kate wanted to emulate Carol we would have seen Kate trying to do so by now.
And PP and money… The books will forever be closed on that company and we’ll never know how it turns a profit. A few theories are that PP gets their inventory from sweat shops. Uncle Gary launders money through the company, and They’re still selling customer info (even though it’s now illegal).
Walmart, DollarTree, Target, Party City, Michael’s, etc… All have that market. To think so many people will choose to pay more money to get the same kind of supplies from PP and pay more for it while also paying for shipping is nuts. $5 in supplies would cost about $20 total for me on their site. Their numbers just don’t add up.
But isn’t 2006 the year that she was “working” as an assistant buyer at Jigsaw? NOT in the family business…
Thinker
That job was created and tailored for her as the employer was a friend of Carol’s. She only worked a handful (1 or 2 a week) of hours at the job and quit because she needed more time not working there. The Jigsaw job served its purpose. She can say she worked at a business that wasn’t owned by her parents.
Kate is the daughter of self-made millionaires. And for that people expect her to have worked somehow harder and more visibly then the entitled, trust funded, spoiled heiresses of old Money millionaires. I’m shaking my head. When you are considered new money everyone judges every single freaking thing you do whereas people with old money get a pass. At some point it is just ridiculous. Now I am the last person on earth to say that Kate has ever worked hard but I also think that most parents secretly hope that their children will not have to work as hard as they did, whether they admit it or not. Now instilling a strong work ethic and your children regardless is another matter and I am not sure that Kate parents succeeded along those lines. But the judgment and scrutiny become tiresome at some point imo. Some people will point out the fact that there are hard-working and successful aristocratic or noble women with careers or strong academic achievement, especially in comparison to Kate. But I wonder if these examples are the exception or the rule. It’s just seems to me that this class in general do not favor very hard work. The same thing is true for socialites and almost every country, especially the US.
Snarkweek
People didn’t expect Kate to have worked harder because her parents were self made millionaires. They expected her to work harder than she did because she pursued a man that everyone knew needed a wife willing to take the role of a hard worker who could take the pressures of the press and people. He was rejected because being his wife would mean they would have to give up what they wanted to do to fill that role.
Kate married into a family that is finacially secure. In turn the family generates good will by doing loads of charity work. It’s the price she has to pay for a life of luxury.
I am not at all sure that you got my entire point, but at the same time you helped me make my point. Other eligible aristocratic women in Williams Circle do not necessarily work very hard or rather, I do not see that they have shown a rigorous interest in careers or other jobs. And that Way they are no better or no worse then Kate. Yet Kate draws a lot of criticism because he has not worked hard enough in the past. I do agree that she has not nor will she ever but it seems that people in her circle simply do not work. How is she so much worse?
Also it seems ridiculous to say that absolutely no one else would have William and he was eventually forced to take Kate. I am sure that there were plenty of attractive, eligible women in Williams social circle who would have clawed their way through hundred charity events to get his attention. They could have also easily given him the impression that they were docile, dedicated to his every whim and eager to assume their royal duties upon marriage. Then they could’ve easily shown their true colors and spent lots of time shopping and going on vacations. People seem to think this is what Kate did but does that really make sense? Kate and Will are two peas in a pod and they are together because they are compatible, probably really do love each other and want to build a future and a family together. I just worry about what will happen when will becomes bored and starts looking around for some female attention. I’m almost sure this is going to happen, I don’t know why. But I do think they see allot of similar qualities in one another. I predict rough patches but I also see them together in their 80s, comfortable and happy with one another, like the Queen and Prince Philip. There are more similarities there than people can imagine.
Snarkweek: I think Kate works very hard on her relationship with William and on being a good royal daughter-in-law, granddaughter-in-law, sister-in-law and cousin. On top of that she is now a new mother, so there’s another role to learn.
I’m not being snarky, either. I think that all takes a lot of work, navigating all that protocol and the very defined personalities of that set.
It would take a strong, almost crazy personality to say – bag it, I’m just going to be myself around these people and instead focus on building a bond with the public through intense charity work. Plus, I think William would hate it. I think he likes being the center of her world. It works for them.
Snarkweek
I may not have fully understood your full meaning, but english is still my 2nd language and when in text it’s a lot harder to understand. Like sarcasm, if i’m not hearing the flux in someone’s tone i’m lost.
William has had a few gf’s outside of Kate and they’ve all become very well off business women and all are very involved in charities dear to them. 1 has said she neded it with William because of his wandering eye. You would think a handsome prince would have women clawing to get that ring, but there are families in the aristo circle that are much more appealing than the Windsors. And those girls could shoot for higher. Especially if they wanted to be a lady who lunches or to simply lead a private life. So, as far as girls that were in his circle go, they likely knew his eye wandered and didn’t want to be in a fishbowl.
Also, I think it’s important to say I think William is the problem with Kate’s work ethic. For 1. She can’t work harder than him or he’ll seem lazy. And 2. He’s been her only real guidence in her royal life. She seems so lost at events because he’s tossed her in sink or swim. There is the other side of that with the “princess training” the hype of most prepared future royal ever. Outside of her very posh accent that matches no one in her family I can’t see what she studied so hard on. Yes, there’s much protocol to learn, but she isn’t great at following it. I’d also image William isn’t easy to live with which brings me to agree with Suze.
Kate has sculpted herself to be ideal for William. Not as her role of a working royal, but a mirror image of William and what he prefers. I also think Kate loves William and William loves Kate. Maybe Kate in a dependent way and William in a ther of my child way, but still love. And with George and possible future children I hope they stay together. Should they divorce the kids are sheltered from it should it get messy.
And forgive my paragraph structure. I type as I think and that can be scattered.
Suze
Spot on.
Flork
You’re right up there with Suze today. And I’m jealous you’re bilingual.
Every other royal princess was a modern woman before her marriage. Bankers, PR, lawyers, businesswomen, new corresponedents CNN types.
Kate was Regency. She just went to school and then waited for a ring. Like an old school princess. In the 21st century the majority of women don’t have that luxury. You work to earn your living. Most don’t have rich families and even the ones that do want to do something productive with their brains.
Sure they’re women now who will proudly say they never wanted to go to school. They just wanted to “be a mom” because education, a degree and job isn’t important but being a stay at home mom and letting the man be the provider.
That’s fine for them but it’s rare in today’s world. Women all over fought so hard to be equal so to see a woman in such a high position just get their by being an open calender booty call and socialite doing nothing is kind of disappointing.
Girls looking up to her in the 21st century aren’t the oh I can not work because Mommy and Daddy have money and one day my prince will come. Nope. Most will be working women
Snark
Thanks. That’s what a bilingual household produces. It seems i’m always in a situation where I don’t speak the language though. I can’t speak or understand much spanish and that’s heavy in my area.
It’s a bit off, but outside of my dissapointment of William I’m not a fan that Kate is a role model of jyoung girls. When I ask what makes her their role model it’s only for superficial qualities. Never a quality of substance. That’s not someone who should be praised or looked up to imo.
Reading these gave me the worst feeling! I couldn’t imagine my phone being hacked. They must feel incredibly violated. Although if I were Kate, perhaps slightly (just slightly) happy that it shows there’s more to the love story. I was beginning to doubt the love portion as I just saw Kate as a hanger-on.
Agreed. Even though I don’t write or say things that are in poor taste, I’d feel awful if my phone were hacked. I wouldn’t want it reported for all to see that I complained about having to attend someone’s party or that I thought someone had bad BO, KWIM?
William speaking to Kate, “You are probably very busy working…” Snickers.
I’m just going to be an outright bitch & remark that I can envision Kate being very busy labelling packets of paper party cups.
It’s almost as if they knew they were being hacked, LOL.
He seemed very concerned that she would know what he was doing and if he was busy and when they could talk next… Interesting but not surprising for Waity. Too needy?? Lol. And sounds like she lived at the gym.
These messages are sweet & show lovely affection & regard for her, & I wouldn’t mind receiving them from my s.o.
I would mind, however, being called honey & baby when there are so many creative possibilities for pet names out there! 😉 I always get a kick out of hearing some of the whimsical names people come up with for their loved ones.
Richard Burton, for example, called Elizabeth Taylor “Twat Twaddle.” Ah….they just don’t make them like they used to.
I will take “Babykins” over what Prince Charles said any time. ANY TIME.
I wondered if anyone would bring up the tampon conversation.
LOL – yes I guess babykins is an improvement on that.
Will obviously loved/loves Kate. I will say though that these British upper class people have such a formal way of talking that I cannot relate to – Will’s syntax sounds just like his fathers.
@Suze,
I noticed the “speaking” manner and syntax too. I couldn’t decide if I find it appealing or off-putting. Probably depends on my mood. Charles immediately came to my mind too.
And after viewing photos of Charles and Camilla over the years, as well as video, and hearing Charles speak of his wife, I would take Charles ANY day as a loving husband over Will.
I think he loves her more than he lets on. I don’t think she was always ‘waity.’ Part of me thinks he wanted her just as bad as she wanted him.
I think they were once in love.
Not very imaginative…. I call my BF all kinds of names/things. Little snail, my caterpillar, my snake, my schnai which is a mix of his name and the word snow, and my little ‘nose’, which is in reference to a particular part of his anatomy, always referred to in code as a nose. he calls me his honeybee, his bee-princess, his octopus (for octopussy), his little mouse, his angel….. anything but generic and bland “honey” or “baby”, in fact I would be angry if any man called me baby- I hate that!
I’ve been called “hillbilly bride” on occasion because we wed in an outdoor ceremony at my parents’ home and during rehearsal I went barefoot. Sounds awful probably but to me it is sweet and I love to hear it! 🙂
Oh Tulip I thought you were classier than that!!!
😉
Teehee
A part of me feels like I know you far too well now. And a part of me wants to thank you for making me smile. Dammit those pet names are cute!
@Ladyslippers,
Well, in my defense, I was totally ticked off at my soon to be hubby at the rehearsal and in a very “don’t even think about messin’ with me” mood! Don’t worry, it worked out, we celebrate our 20th anniversary next year.
@TeeHee,
Glad it made you smile, it makes me smile too 🙂 Plus, that’s one of many embarrassing secrets so you don’t know me a quarter as well as you could, I’m having mercy and keeping most of the crazy to myself 🙂
This was such a cute write up, and a nice story; made me smile 🙂
It’s nice. The tone is nice. And I have no problems with any of the nicknames per se… but I do find it odd that he never said her name.
In my experience, one of the hallmarks of true love – or true head-over-heels-IN-love – is wanting to say the loved one’s NAME. Over and over again.
But I am not implying anything here. Maybe after they’ve been together for such a long time it’s normal to just go by the nicknames.
And, like I said, the TONE seems nice. That matters.
We’re all different so I disagree. If I use my husbands name or vice versa it’s either with company, to get the other’s attention or in a bickering match. Outside of that it’s cute names like Love-bear-dove, cutiekins, etc…
And going into our relationship neither one of us used pet names before. it felt weird. Now we can’t stop. It’s infectious.
And I agree with the tone and being in a relationship so long that nicknames take over.
Future Mr LAK and i only call each other by our given names when pissed at each other. LOL.
Haha! So Mr. Florc and I are not alone in that.
I feel so much less weird now. I have never enjoyed pet names for myself, I have a slightly uncommon name so for some reason I just like to hear it said out loud by someone who loves me. Is that weird? For example, I actually had to correct my husband pronunciation of my name and when he finally got it right it was like music to my ears. He does call me pet names but it really doesn’t do much for me. Besides, in the back of my mind I would wonder if he used it before he met me LOL.
You know, I completely get where you are coming from. I have remarked to my husband that he hardly ever calls me by my given name. I call him by his all the time!
Exactly LOL. And even on the rare occasion when I call him by his nickname it just feels weird because his mom called him that and. I just can’t.
DAE just call their SO by their actual name?
I asked my girlfriend to, and she does. And my brother and his wife use their names or say hon sometimes.
Way to celebrate criminal invasions of privacy by publishing this stuff.
Even though it seemed like she lived at the gym – as someone further up the thread pointed out – she didn’t look like an emaciated stick figure as she did after the engagement. I almost forgot how good she used to look!
I can’t be bothered to be nasty about Kate. He sounds sweet and like he really missed her. I am sure he was just as into her as she was. no one forced him to date her for almost a decade and marry her.
Ok, I must be the only one not buying what is trying to be sold in this article and I will happily stand alone.
I’m there with you, but am all out of venom lately. Christmas and all.
It’s just such a happy time:)
Best wishes to all you Jolly Royal Celebitches!
Not alone. Not alone at all.
And these messages are very cute but only a small part of an overall history & story.
Some people will always want to believe in that fairytale love story. To believe it’s all puppies and rainbows is naive imo. All relationships have epic fights. And with regards to Will and Kate’s relationship there were very pulic break ups.
How about one of those post Isabella blow outs, lol.
I think this is cute, it reminds me of one of the cutest couple I’ve seen. They were in their 60’s going to 70’s, and after 40 years together he was still calling her “my little fish”. I’ve melted.
CUTE! I love fish as a nickname. Aww. I’m going to steal that.
Never could understand how someone can babble texts on a voicemail?! I mean if i want to talk to someone i don´t talk in monologue on his voicemail. “Call me if you have time… something happened… I have to tell you something important or funny” etc. is enough!
But then…these texts are not the real texts, just “hearsay” from other people so there is no evidence that they are accurate or real. Some sweet quotes, but they definitely don´t portray a whole relationship. Leaking some nice quotes screams PR to me… but hey who knows.
An who knows what Wills told his other girls.
+1
Relationships are not 1 dimensional.
I do wonder about William’s past flings. There’s almost always a tell-all given years later.
Side Comment… Is it true that the POW’s can have a legal mistress? Forgot where I read this, but the existence of the mistress cannot be used as evidence of infidelity.. ?
I don’t know if I would use the word legal, but historically mistresses have always been considered an inherent right of the Prince of Wales. And as far as a mistress being named in a divorce suit well that wasn’t heard of because other than Charles no Prince of Wales ever got a divorce.
Thanks Snark
Legal just might be the way I remembered “inherent” and I went from there.
And interesting side history of POWs.
Well, a PoW was asked to testify in another’s divorce — it was quite scandalous at the time too.
And any mistress for a Royal or a peer is (from what I understand) more assumed rather than a right per se. Charles used to tell Diana (when they fought over his numerous mistresses) that he didn’t want to be the only PoW w/o a mistress (not true as there are other Kings AND Pow’s that never had mistresses. Also shows Charles’ entitled attitude).
Also as the future head of the Church of England, the Prince of Wales would not be legally allowed to openly and publicly commit adultery. That is one reason why Charles and Camilla could not be married in Westminster.
Not true. Quite a few Royals, including heirs (and wives of heirs), had quite publicly open affairs.
People have affairs all the time but not “legal” ones. According to a published account the Queen, Archbishop and PM informed Charles that he would have to wed Camilla in a civil ceremony because as a divorced heir it would cause an uproar with devout Anglicans. Of course no one has any moral outrage when the monarchy cheats, just strategical ones.
Very interesting. Thanks for a detailed back and forth!
Ewww. I’ll call my friends and my girlfriend things like coco, or muffin sometimes, but I’ll stick hot coals down my pants before letting anyone call me baby. My best friend and I call each other hag, and all variations of.
So, later in the full article, an email is mentioned that states “Interestingly, Kate was not there. On the list but no show. No love lost between her and Chelsy.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but news outlets always said they got along very well, with proof being the many paparazzi pictures of them together, smiling and laughing. Doesn’t ‘no love lost’ mean they didn’t like each other?
Yea. That is weird. I always heard Chelsy didn’t care for Kate in those early days and was in on how that group made fun of Kate being so clingy and territorial of William.
Ultimately, They were polite… frienemies. (sp?)
I thought that at that time he was trying to avoid her because he didn’t wanted to have the talk about breaking up(so much that when he did, it was through the phone while she was at jigsaw). But with those I miss you blah blah blah messages while he was trying to date girls from his circle, failing at it, then partying and hooking up with random girls while Kate Waited just make me think worse of William.
The break up at jigsaw. I forgot about that.
Yes, many cute conversations to Kate. What would be truly scandalous is what William eft foor voicemails, calls, and text messages to girls that weren’t named Kate.
Gaaaawk! Makes me want to puke!!
1. These are adorably awkward voicemails. I love that she was ALWAYS at the gym.
2. How incredibly intrusive. I would be livid to have my voicemails, or voicemails from my husband while we were dating like these messages, broadcast to the entire world this way. So wrong.