Olympic skier Lindsey Vonn, 29, achieved some level of notoriety this past year by openly dating Tiger Woods and talking about their relationship repeatedly to the press. Lindsey isn’t competing in Sochi due to a knee injury, so I’m not sure how she’s still scoring publicity, but here we are.
Lindsey has new interview with Self Magazine, where she goes on at length about how unhealthy some thin female celebrities must be. Maybe Lindsey is trolling to get press, or maybe she’s just shading other women. Either way her latest comments are somewhat obnoxious. Lindsey talked about attending the MET Gala with Tiger and how, as an athlete, she didn’t feel inferior to the very skinny female celebrities because they must subsist on “diet coke and lettuce” and are all “skinny fat” anyway. Give me a break, lady:
Have you ever felt insecure when it comes to your body?
Definitely. It was hard to go to the Met ball [last May], with people who eat lettuce and a Diet Coke for dinner. It’s difficult to be at events with a room full of women who weigh half as much as you do. That’s always tough. I don’t envy them, though, because so many of them are skinny-fat. They have more cellulite than most people. I feel like I need to give them a cheeseburger. It’s sexy and beautiful to be strong.You struggled with depression for years. How do you feel now?
Normal again, now that I’m on medication. I have sad days, but they’re rare and the lows aren’t as low. [This past year], I’ve been the happiest I’ve ever been. A part of me is missing when I can’t ski, but I’ve learned there’s more to define me and make me happy, like stand-up paddling and Jet Skiing—things I’d never done before. Or being with people I love and just enjoying life.Speaking of which, what’s the best advice your boyfriend, Tiger Woods, has ever given you?
He’s helped me stay patient through rehab. Golf is all about patience—one tournament is four days long, 18 holes a day. He helped me take it one day at a time. I’d say, “Why can’t I do this? I want to!” And he’d say, “You’ll get your chance. It will come.” We’re good for each other. I don’t know what he’s learned from me, to be honest. But we push each other and help each other when we’re down.Do you two get competitive?
We’re pretty competitive in everything we do: tennis, Ping-Pong, who wakes up earlier. I lose more than I win, but I try! He always beats me walking to the car.
If Vonn would have only said “It’s difficult to be at events with a room full of women who weigh half as much as you do,” which is still hyperbole, people would have sympathy for her. I mean sort of. From most people’s perspective she has very little to worry about since she has an amazing figure. Instead she had to shade other women’s bodies, calling them “skinny fat,” assuming that they don’t eat and that they have cellulite. That’s ridiculous and petty. It’s just as bad as someone calling her larger (she’s not!) because she’s so strong and fit. I agree that strong is sexy, but you don’t need to assert your superiority but putting down smaller women.
I’ll say something nice. It was cool of Lindsey to admit that medication helped her over her depression. There’s still a stigma surrounding psychiatric medication. When celebrities like Vonn and Brooke Shields discuss how drugs helped them, it encourages other people to get help.
This is Lindsey at the MET Gala with her drunk knight in shining Nike. She considers herself twice as big as an average starlet. On what planet?
Photo credit: WENN.com and FameFlynet
Rachel Zoe, and people like her, would put Lindsey Vonn on diet.
The part about cheesburger was a poor choice of word, but I don’t think she is shading anyone, she clearly admits she was feeling insecure.
Yeah, I was thinking that. So…diet coke and lettuce bad…cheeseburger good? Eh? And just had to Google who Lindsey Vonn actually was….DAMN!!!! These photos don’t do her justice.
Feeling insecure doesn’t always have to lead to insulting other people. Especially when she’s probably not seen any of the women there nude so how would she know that they’re “skinny-fat” and have cellulite?
A better way to have put her whole comment would be “I felt insecure at first because of how thin a lot of the women there are but then I remembered that I am happy with my healthy, fit body.”
+1.
If you’re shading other women’s bodies, you’re part of the problem, period, end of story.
Being at the Met Gala, that would indeed be a skinny crowd of women, the majority of whom are indeed more focused on thinness vs. being strong and healthy. I can imagine how hard that would be on the self-esteem of someone like Vonn, who is indeed tall and muscular. And she’s not wrong that the bulk of those women have achieved that thinness through unhealthy diets and means. But good grief, could she have said it in a more offensive way? ”Eat a cheeseburger” really? Someone needs to teach Ms. Vonn that you don’t need to put others down in order to raise yourself up.
I agree, Bridget. She’s not actually wrong. Many of these celebs value being size 0, which often does not accommodate muscles. That means just dieting. And seeing these celebs in person is way different than the pictures. They are unbelievably small. When I lived in LA, I was a size 4/6 and 5’11 and I was much bigger than most celebs.
Honestly though, I think if someone else had said it, people might not have as much of an issue.
Yeah except Vonn works hard to make her body muscular and fit and I don’t doubt for one second that women who are not fit (or “skinny fat” as Vonn so kindly put it) would find her muscular frame awesome and yes, perhaps intimidating on a certain level.
People are missing the point here. It’s not about what one celeb says about other women’s bodies as being “truthful” (as you perceive it)-it’s about pitting women’s body types against each other–one body type is not more “ideal” than another and I’m so tired of women perpetuating that.
Instead of saying “women who attend the Met Gala starve themselves to fi into their dresses” why don’t we just embrace the idea that women’s bodies belong to THEM. Women have a personal choice as to the lifestyle they choose and often their bodies reflect that-whether it be a very active lifestyle or one of vegging out and eating cake when they feel like it or one of working long hours and maybe not eating as much as one should. Not every thin person is starving themselves so they can look fashionable. Please. I go to a women’s gym and there are a myriad of different body types and different weights.
Let’s try something new and not sh-t on other women because they look differently than we do or value something different than us. Let’s be happy and secure with ourselves and comfortable with what we look like, regardless of what the *other chicks* look like.
@TOC, I actually did point out that Vonn doesn’t need to put down others to raise herself up. If the only way she can feel better about herself is to make others feel ”less” than its sad.
But, I think its important to talk about the women who are so frequently the faces of maintstream beauty (IE models and actresses) reflect a very warped standard that’s almost unattainable for most women to achieve, let alone in a healthy manner. An excellent example was when Adrianna Lima discussed how she gets ready for a VS fashion show – which she got a ton of flack for being honest about! We want women to feel good about their bodies and to be healthy, and yet we continue with this fallacy that the women that our society holds up as the most beautiful, most desireable, are most likely achieving that body through unhealthy means. And until THAT standard changes, we’re going to have the same conversation again and again.
Right but there are more inclusive, thus more productive, ways to have the discussion.
“yet we continue with this fallacy that the women that our society holds up as the most beautiful, most desireable, are most likely achieving that body through unhealthy means. ”
I’m slightly confused with your use of the word “fallacy” here but I think I get what you’re saying. To expound on your thoughts, I personally think it’s just as damaging to the collective female psyche to assume that every thin woman achieves her body through starvation as it is to assume that every overweight woman is unhealthy. There are so many variations in women’s body types and so many different factors that contribute to a woman’s appearance-I’m sorry, I just don’t think that slamming other women who don’t share the same body type is the best way of dealing with a serious issue.
I’m not trying to shut down the discussion, I’m simply saying that judgment or blanket statements without any proof is not really helpful. In regards to Lima, I would be more open to discussing that because it’s a specific example. Maybe approach things on an individual basis, instead of making sweeping generalizations and assumptions…
EDIT: Just to be clear, I’m not singling you out. I’m speaking in terms of having a collective discussion about a serious topic and how some (like Vonn) are trying to address that topic.
@TOC, the sample of women we’re talking about – those attending the MET Gala are most definitely NOT representative of the normal population of women, though. It would be one thing to walk into a regular yoga class and assume that the women there are thin because they starve themselves. But at the MET gala? Considering how much evidence is present about the astronomical pressure that models and actresses are underto be the thin, how many women come forward after their careers are over and say ‘yeah, I was basically living on cigarettes and diet pills’, and of course my favorite, how pretty much every actress magically gets thinner after they break through, the Hollywood thinness simply isn’t brought about by natural means. Remember when Julianne Moore, who is beautiful and slender, has commented on the fact that she’s been on a diet her ENTIRE career? And to complete my apparently incomplete thought: the fallacy is that these women who are considered our ideal, that they are in their natural state. That this is the shape and size their bodies are meant to be, and they’re all just naturally thin.
@TOK – I was just saying Vonn wasn’t necessarily wrong on that point. Aside from that, she’s not exactly impressing anyone with her communication skills. SHe’s a pretty unpleasant lady. ”Eat a cheeseburger”? Really?
U can tell by their untoned arms & legs. Blake lively, Kristen Stewart, Kim kardashian etc.
@Marigold, well said. There are two points I want to make here:
– It is no more acceptable to tell another woman that she needs to eat a cheeseburger than it is to tell another woman that she needs to hit the gym. Her body, her life, her choice.
– Casual comments to a thin woman about how tiny she is can be so hurtful and damaging if that woman has, or had, an eating disorder. Eating disorders are beyond difficult to overcome and when someone tells a recovering anorexic “oh, you’re SO skinny, I NEVER see you eat,” or “you’re so thin, I’m SO jealous” — and the woman hearing it has to battle her demons every day just to try to get enough nutrients … it’s a terrible place to put someone.
I find nothing obnoxious about her interview. I would feel the same in a room full of insecure, skinny women starving themselves to look thin. Being fit and healthy is a much better option.
Warning: rant. And sorry, Tazina, this isn’t fully directed at you. I realize you didn’t say most of the things I’m responding to, but it was difficult to pick which comment to respond to.
It is obnoxious. You’re showing your own insecurities. Quit making assumptions about the health, dietary habits, exercise level and self-confidence of other women. We’re told “Health at every size! You can’t make assumptions about a person because of their weight!” But apparently that only applies to fat people. Every thin celebrity is railed as drug-addicted, anorexic, and unhealthy, regardless of the facts. No one is allowed to find Kate Bosworth beautiful as a whole (despite being the same size for years) , yet we lavish praise on obese Melissa McCarthy and say that overweight Lena Dunham is an amazing role model relative to any thin celebrity. You don’t know anything about the other women. You don’t know that they’re starving or that they’re insecure. I’m so tired of constantly hearing that every single thin celebrity is starving, self-loathing, etc. Lindsey is obviously the insecure one here, making those kinds of assumptions about other people.
If every woman who was technically, medically overweight (which would include a lot of women that everyone says “Oh, she’s gorgeous, curvy, doesn’t need to lose a pound!”) was told, “You’re unhealthy, you obviously eat ice cream and greasy burgers all day, all you think about is stuffing your face, you need to exercise and eat right,” everyone would freak out, saying we’re cruel, hateful, fat shamers. Every obese woman that posts a selfie or admits that she doesn’t care to eat healthy or exercise is applauded like she’s some sort of hero, whereas every thin woman who posts pictures and speaks about her healthy diet and exercise is attention-starved, needy, pathetic, fat shaming, etc.
I’m so sick of this general sentiment on Celebitchy and everywhere else. Blah blah thin privilege, HAES, acceptance. Whatever. Thin women are not the devil and obese women aren’t all wonderful. 70% of the American population is overweight or obese. Around one percent is anorexic and around four percent is bulimic. Binge eating is the most common eating disorder. You tell me what the bigger problem is. Yes, overweight women can be perfectly healthy and in shape, even more than many thin women, but obesity is not healthy, period.
ALL BEAUTY STANDARDS IN HOLLYWOOD ARE UNREALISTIC. Yet we never hear about pretty shaming, frame size shaming, white and straight teeth shaming. We gladly pick on celebrities for every aspect of their looks, but god forbid anyone call someone else fat. I’m sorry, I know people hate to hear it, but weight IS changeable, especially more so than other parts of our appearances. If big women don’t want people making assumptions about their health, saying that they need to lose weight, then quit doing the exact same thing to thin women. If you think being overweight is beautiful and confidence-inspiring, ACT like it. If you have to shame thin women to praise larger women, you’re part of the problem and JUST AS BAD as any thin person who criticizes larger women.
I have to agree, starving one’s self is not pretty. No shade to naturally thin people, and I know a few, who cannot gain weight, but clearly in Hollywood you get blasted with unflattering pics in the tabloids if you have any normal amount of fat and this has got to change, it’s wrong. It only leads young girls to assume this is normal to starve yourself and freak out when they gain an ounce. I know people who brag about how little they weigh and how little they ate that day.
I agree. I think she’s absolutely right about a lot of the visible women in the entertainment industry. I think it’s about time someone pointed out that starving yourself doesn’t give you a nice figure and that quick fixes like iposuction often has disfiguring and unsightly side effects. Young girls should hear that. Get off the couch and eat a balanced diet.
GG: This! Most of the people in Hollywood are not naturally thin! Even models who are naturally skinny starve to be even skinnier. That’s not pretty. And you can most of the time tell if someone’s naturally thin or starving like Rachel Zoe.
This does kinda remind me of that picture wandering around the web, of a VS Angel vs. a fitness model and how the fitness model is BETTER because she has a round butt. And…I think it was Cassey Ho that pointed out that this sucks because you’re comparing two women who work out for different reasons, have different fitness goals etc… And Lindsey Vonn has different goals from actresses.
@Katherine: if you think all the women at the Met Ball are naturally thin, then I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. And I’m confused, are you calling Ms. Vonn fat?
People praising women of different sizes doesn’t detract from praise that more traditionally sized women get. There is not a finite amount of goodwill to go around. And even larger women deserve to love their bodies.
@Katherine ITA. there nothing wrong with not being a size zero and some people are naturally heavier than others. but the general consensus seems to be that some people are just “big boned” or “curvy” but when it comes to thin people they’re always starving themselves, don’t have enough muscle and run away screaming when they get within a hundred feet of a McDonald’s.
It seems to be socially acceptable to insult people that are thin. I’ve heard them all by now “watch out for the wind, it might blow you away” or “If I tie a string around your ankle I could use you as a kite” -_-
I care about people’s personality, not their looks. I’ve always been insecure, but I wouldn’t even think about telling heavier people that they “Need to stop eating cheeseburgers” it’s just rude and I don’t know them or the situation they’re in.
Katherine you are making me feel stabby. It seems like you are implying that Lindsey is fat, which she isn’t in any universe. She is an extremely healthy looking individual. I don’t think anything she said is out of line, except for maybe the cellulite comment. Am I wrong, or isn’t it true that cellulite has nothing to do with weight or exercise, its genetics, and you either have it or you don’t? Please tell me that’s true because I have cellulite and am not over weight, and I exercise regularly.
Lady, take several seats. Also, what am I seeing in the shadow of her really high thigh slit in the white dress? Can’t tell because I’m on mobile, but hope it’s just a shadow. I hope that slit-up-to-the-mons trend dies a quick death, and soon.
It’s two gauze-covered slits up to the lalas, with some possibly white knickers. I think… Sometimes you can’t tell!
I thought I could see some panty there too.
Aww, why? I LOVE the “thigh-high” slit trend! 🙂
Hmmmmm – I can imagine that she is very much into health and fitness, knows EXACTLY what her lean body mass is and what her body-fat percentage is. She knows the number of macros she needs to eat at all times. I think it’s easy for folk like that to get into that kind of mindset. You spend any amount of time around bodybuilding forums and they’re like that too. Their way is the BEST way to get a healthy body – and especially in an industry like Hollywood she’ll be surrounded by people who are ‘scale-based’ or ‘dress-sized’ based in their health. And thus the assumptions start flying.
Great way of putting it.
Socially acceptable skinny-shaming needs to go. We are all built differently, move on.
Good point. Lindsey has the health perspective of an Olympic athlete and a body that shows the years of training she’s undergone. Despite her accomplishments, she walked into a room of people who are sizing each other up (literally) and felt badly about herself. I think a lot of us would have felt the same. It never feels good to know you are being judged negatively.
29?!
*spits out diet coke and lettuce*
Right??! I was always amazed that she was still competing at her age, which I had pegged as closer to 40 than 30.
I’m 30, so I’m genuinely shocked that I’m older than her. She’s not unattractive, she just looks kind of hard in the face.
Lol
I think that doing winter sports ages can age you, something about being in the harsh weather conditions…I think that a lot of athletes who exercise in sunny conditions a lot too experience similar effects…
I think her frumpy style ages her too as does her hair…
Very true, I was just ready to write the same. Winter sports and terrible hair style. I know glacier skiers who are real red.
If she makes remarks like this then yes, she is insecure. There’s no need to insult others. Maybe she could have had a little compassion for women who are in a hyper-competitive environment that is incredibly unforgiving of any hint of excess weight. Instead, since she is clearly defensive and insecure, she was scornful and oblivious to their daily context.
It will be nice if the day ever comes that we can appreciate all shapes and sizes or, if nothing else, stop with the body shaming.
+1,000,000
Could not have said it any better.
I agree Frieda.
Also perhaps, just maybe, she was also putting down models in general, one in particular , like his exwife.
I’m way late to this thread but eloquently said Frida. Could not agree with you more.
Truth. How many times have we seen an unfortunate photo of a celeb on a beach and caught ripples in their thighs and the dimples in their azz?
Alot of these gals are skinny by virtue of their metabolsim it doesnt mean they are healthy or fit in the sense of having muscle tone and good cardio.
Angelina in her tomb raider days was athletic and fit, now she is a bag of bones.
Id say Jen A is fit because she spends alot of time in the gym and it shows. Homegirl is muscular and toned.
Yes that is who I was thinking of with my hollywood comment above. AJ has a bold large tattoo over her belly that proclaims “That which nourishes me also destroys me”. That says it all for her, really.
I guess you are joking about Jen A there was nothing toned in those Cabo pics.
Lindsey’s obviously got issues because no one who’s satisfied with themselves goes around degrading other people based on their looks.
Actually scratch that, no one normal would date that slimy a**hole willingly, clearly girl you are the biggest joke here, and it ain’t your appearance!
ha, yes, this: no one normal would date that slimy a**hole willingly. I would be scared of him. He has the propensity to lie his ass off and lead a double life; I would never ever trust that.
I agree that she probably is bigger than the average actress/model. Many actresses are quite tiny, in stature as well as girth. I am slender enough, but put me beside anyone from the entertainment industry and I will be the bigger person. We know from insider stories of the modelling world that many follow hideous dietary habits to keep themselves very thin.
I don’t get the “skinny-fat” and “more cellulite than most people thing though” thing though. She could have left that and the “cheeseburger” out too.
Am I the only one who dislikes this woman and thinks she is WAAAAY over hyped as a gifted skier? I don’t get the fuss over her. She rates super high on my annoyance meter.
I am with you. She just rubs me the wrong way.
I have no opinion on her personnally but how is she overhyped as a skier?
She was the first to win gold in downhill for the US in the Olympics, she won titles/races in all disciplines. No other skier from the US has won more titles than her, and she impressevely did it in consecutive years.
If she’s not gifted, well at least she demonstrates that work pays off.
And given the fact that some sports (gymnastics, ice skating, ski etc…) interests people in the USA only if the winners carry the same passport as them, the hype was inevitable.Not sure its’ over the top as far as Vonn is concerned.
Your last sentence is false. We dont care about LV and shes american
I’m just glad she ditched that psychotic, abusive stage husband of hers. Not that Tiger is a huge step up, but douche-y though he may be, he ain’t THAT type of douche.
And on a side note, I totally want that blue dress! It’s adorable, in a sort of IceCapades kind of way. I have a similar build to her, and its hard to find cute, sleeveless dresses that don’t make athletic girls look like linebackers. Much cuter than that white dress from the Met that is dangerously close to flashing her “Hello, Kitty” territory. :/
She basically is double their size though. If you lined up her thigh next to eg a Nicole Richie or a sjp it wouldn’t be far off.
Obviously her body is amazing – both aesthetically and functionally. But I wouldn’t underestimate how weird it is to be in a room of women where EVERYONE is so thin. Presumably that’s the same reason why Aussie & British actresses & musicians who move to LA/into the Hollywood sphere always emerge 30 pounds lighter within 6 months of doing it.
To be fair, I can imagine she’s equal to 3 or 4 Annie Hathaways… just in muscle weight alone. Maybe she should lay into the guys who keep starving themselves for roles: Mcconaughey, Leto, Bale, and the rest. She does have a point in terms of women not really associating strong with sexy, at least not if it’s not the pilates/lean/”tiny” musculature that’s the rage amongst the “fit” celebs.
Her relationship sounds awful, but that’s not really a surprise. What fun it must be to have even walking to the car be a competition! Jesus. Maybe they pool their Ambien and anti-depressants and it works for them? Nothing about their relationship (other than the lukewarm PR) seems real.
I’m glad she spoke so openly about her depression and treatment. The conversation about mental illness is always difficult and I am sure more than a few people will dismiss anything she says or does because ” she has a mental illness, she’s crazy”. it took some courage to speak out.
Shame she had to trash people about their bodies. Sigh. I get what she is saying, it just came out really stupid and arrogant.
I know she’s obnoxious and most here will probably shade her, but I agree with her. Skinny-fat, or underweight-overfat (as I’ve heard health professionals describe it) is real. When people focus too much on being skinny they tend to diet more and exercise less, not healthy. I think more people should draw attention to strong, healthy bodies – this should be our ideal, not a specific size.
Is she being petty about how she describes her Met Gala experience? Maybe, but I’ve said similar to comfort myself (and my muscular thighs) so I give her a pass on this. I still find her annoying and a bit much, but this statement I’m fine with…
Yeah I agree with what YOU said, but I don’t think that’s the point that she was making. If she phrased it like you did, then I wouldn’t have a problem with it.
The way she said it just made it sound like “well I might be bigger but I’m fitter than all the skinny chicks in Hwood”.
If you’re secure with yourself, you don’t have to denigrate others.
Thanks! Maybe I just read her comments the way I wanted to hear them, but I really didn’t see the degrading inuendo in my initial read through. We all hear what we want to hear sometimes, right?
I want to believe that she didn’t intend to be insulting/degrading to others, but then again I don’t know her so who knows…
She is right that skinny isnt synonymous with healthy. It’s more unhealthy to be a little underweight than overweight (non obese). She’s wrong to stereotype the people she’s rubbing shoulders with, and putting them down to make herself feel better. And that “cheeseburger” thing…. give me a freakin break. She is obviously not talking abouf health here.
Putting women down for being “skinny fat” (slim but out of shape) is no better than fat shaming.
What BS. There is no such thing as “skinny-fat.” Fat and skinny are opposites. You can be skinny and fit, fat and fit, or any variation on that. I can see the point she was trying to make really deep down in there – that skinny does not equal fitness. And she’s correct there. But the term “skinny-fat” is so facially stupid.
Sam- Of course you are technically correct but the term ‘skinny fat’, just nails that look of a thin person that has a high fat percentage…they restrict calories but don’t workout…
No, that is an unfit skinny person. Unfit generally means a high body fat percentage, but it also includes poor muscle tone, poor cardio conditioning, lack of strength, that stuff. Skinny-fat does not exist. Secondly, the term suggests that “fat” by itself is a bad thing. As we’ve been over again and again, you can be fat and healthy -in fact, you can be fat and fit. Vonn doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
I guess it is to early for semantics for me….I think we basically agree – I’m letting the term slide because it makes sense to me in a non factual way…
The way I interpret “skinny-fat”, is a term used to describe people (mostly women) who are small in size and have no muscle tone.
+1
I believe she is talking about women who are extremely skinny and the have cellulitis (which is fat… )
Cellulite. Cellulitis is something completely different.
Cellulite is fat, that’s true. However, Vonn is again misinformed. The fittest women on Earth have cellulite. It’s largely genetic and has little to do with health. Cellulite is simply a product of how your particular body distributes and holds the fat. The only way to get rid of it would be to lose all your body fat – and that would kill you. There is no reliable way to get rid of cellulite. None. nada. You could be a string bean and have cellulite. You could be super fit and have it. Your DNA controls whether you have cellculite – not your level of fitness, by and large. You can reduce it, but you can’t eliminate it.
@Sam
I totally disagree with you.
Ever seen a skinny person with beer belly? Fat or poor muscle tone or both?
Fat, healthy and fit? No way, sir. There are as many people with different muscle tone and bodyshape as possible and everyone has their optimal weight plus and less. Extremes as fat and underweight is never healthy.
Well, first, I’m a woman (which I think I’ve mentioned a few times), so you must be new here.
Second – ever heard of Google? If you did, you’d be able to pull up dozens of studies that show that overweight and obese people who move around and have good cardio conditioning actually outlive thin people (you know, the ones at “healthy” weights) who have more sedentary lifestyles. If you bothered to look, you can find this stuff. Most research now suggests that severe obesity certainly is unhealthy, more lower level obesity – and mere overweightness – is not associated with higher risk of death or even a lot of diseases. What you eat and how you move is.
I won’t put in the links because I don’t want to trip any alarms, so look these up for yourself:
Association of All-Cause Mortality With Overweight and Obesity Using Standard Body Mass Index Categories (JAMA)
http://healthland.time.com/2012/09/05/can-you-be-fat-and-fit-or-thin-and-unhealthy/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110815095034.htm
Woman, please.
The term “skinny-fat” refers to someone who looks slim but, if you were to cross-section their body, you would see very, very little muscle mass and a lot of fat. Many people don’t realize that when you severely restrict calories, like going on a very strict diet, you don’t just lose fat – you lose a lot of muscle mass, as well.
I know what Lyndsey means when she says ” Definitely. It was hard to go to the Met ball [last May], with people who eat lettuce and a Diet Coke for dinner. It’s difficult to be at events with a room full of women who weigh half as much as you do. That’s always tough. ”
Judging by her arms and legs Id say she is normal person skinny and fit..she may be a size 8 or 10, because I know she is tall, and a size 8 or 10 when you are like 5’10 is very fit indeed. Im 5’9 and in my best physical shape I was an 8 or 10 depending on what store I went to.
But Hollywood thin is ridiculous. These dames are all zeroes and 2s..maybe 4s. Of course many of them are short and tiny anyway. But still, these gals are skinny beyond skinny.
So yeah, for a gal like Lyndsey who is probably 5’10 and athletically healthily fit and wearing a size 8 or 10..those girls all must seem half her size!
And the bit about the cheeseburger? I feel the EXACT same way about Angelina!. She was so hot in the Tombraider days. she was healthy, had some meat and muscle on her.
I just want to lock her up in a room with nothing but KFC, Hardees 1/3 lb cheeseburgers and a 30 sack of sliders from White Castle. EAT already, or get pregnant again, something.
Seriously? You want to lock someone in a room and make them eat fast food? Your concern is so thoughtful. Or were you joking? The same old, tired, facetious comment that’s been done to death. Kudos to you and Lindsay for creativity. I imagine you feel free to comment that overweight people need to step away from the all-you-can eat buffet. You sound helpful like that.
WTF..how is she fat shaming? She is saying these girls are uber skinny without being in shape and probably arent healthy either.
Im starting to get the feeling you may or may not have some…weight and body issues given your responses.
And no, just because someone is fat doesnt mean they are a lesser person but at the same time..fat is fat and is unhealthy. And I say that as someone overweight!
Also, lookit if you didnt get the point of my post, namely that angie needs to put one some weight stat, then I dont know what to tell you. Ever hear of hyperbole? Yes? No?
This is what I hate about celebitchy, people get their panties in a wad over the simplist shyt.
but ok Sullivan for you how about :
I want to lock angie in a room with grass fed free range bison, roasted chicken, whole grain breads( with butter), grilled salmon, roasted root vegetables, 3 bean turkey chilli, organic salad with balsamic and extra virgin olive oil vinaigrette, and vegan fruit tarts.
happy now???
Charming. I would expect no less.
Just curious what do you want to lock a fat actress in a room with?
@ToodySezHey … and Angelina would *still* emerge very thin, because she was on a special (untenable) weight-gaining diet and rigorous muscle building fitness regime for TR. Stop using that movie as her health gold standard, it’s asinine and no more accurate than using Dukes of Hazzard as a barometer for Jessica Simpson.
Anyone can have cellulite…even people who work out diligently. Why worry about how someone else looks? Making snide comments about other women only draws attention upon yourself. Rise above that nonsense.
Good Gawd, could we stop with the fat-shaming (ew, I’m sick of that term, but too lazy to come with another one)? Yes, that’s what Vonn is doing. Fat is fat, no matter how much someone weighs. If it’s unacceptable to single-out overweight people for being fat, then it should be equally as unacceptable to do this to underweight people who are fat. Seems logical to me.
I wish it was just called “weight-shaming.” It shouldn’t be acceptable to talk smack about anyone based on their weight, which I think gets forgotten with the moniker “fat-shaming” sometimes.
Tiger looks like a boy in that suit.
And Vonn is making a valid point here. Skinny fat is real and unhealthy. She just comes across as extremely unlikable and trolling. She is putting those other women down to boost her own image. Shame on her.
I can imagine feeling very insecure surrounded by some of those whisper thin actresses, but it’s unfortunate she felt the need to shame others to make herself feel better.
But either way, I can’t take seriously anyone who willingly got involved with Tiger Woods post scandal.
Meh, I don’t feel one certain way (like or dislike) about this woman, but I do love to watch her ski.
Is she a figure-skater, too? That blue dress longs to be triple-lutzed…
Brilliant.
I don’t see anything wrong with her comments. Many of these women who starve themselves are “skinny fat”. They subsist on lettuce, diet drinks, and minuscule portions of food, but do not go to the gym regularly. For them, it isn’t about health but about looking thin. That is their goal and they do deserve some side-eye, although, I don’t even think Vonn is doing that here. She is talking about her own insecurities as a woman who is fit, strong, and muscular who might be seen by many as “fat” next to “skinny fat” (unhealthy) women because they are half her size.
The point isn’t whether her comments were valid or not. The point is that if you have to pump yourself up by denigrating other women, you’ve lost. Talking about her own insecurities is one thing, and is valid; trashing the skinnier actresses is not. It just makes her look petty and jealous. Wouldn’t you think something was wrong if those actresses she so readily dismisses called her “bulky” and “man-like” in comparison to their smaller frames?
how is telling the truth trashing other women?
There ARE women who are skinny fat and unhealthy.
@Faye
She was not trashing on skinny or fat people. She spoke about women who starve themselves in order to fit a current trend.
+`1000
Basically kibbles, thats how I interpreted what she was saying. how did so many people read what she said and go left at such a basic statement from Lindsey, I do not understand.
The conclusions that people draw around here sometimes is just wow…..
But it is like saying that all Jewish people are good at math, all blondes are dumb, all blacks are good at backetball, etc. It lumps all people together, and that is wrong. She has NO idea if all the women at the Met Gala had cellulite and I highly doubt that every woman there was slender with poor muscle tone.
Beyonce was there, Katy Perry, Jennifer Lopez, and others who have beautiful bodies. They didn’t trounce fellow women for their body type. One can be slender by working out and having a diet that does not consist of only diet coke and lettuce. She is hardly the poster child for plus-sized models, by the way. She is what at most, a size 6? It hardly makes her a beast among the waifes.
She cut others down in order to elevate herself and is being an elitist athlete. It isn’t hard to see through…and it is very unattractive.
All this talk does is lend credence to the idea that a woman’s body shape is important and worthy of discussion. Why the hell do we let ourselves be objectified this way?
what I dont understand is, how is simply observing something that is true and then talking about it is verboten? Why cant we say someone is fat or skinny without it being the end of the world?
I love your comments on this thread, msw.
Obviously it is NOT verboten. But that doesn’t change my point, which is about why anyone considers this worthy of discussion in the first place.
Thanks TOK 🙂
Please.
Everyone is objectified, women more than men but thats because there are more men in power in hollywood.
how many women in here lose their minds over fassbender, momoa, cumberbatch, pitt, clooney etc. What? they know them personally? Get real.
I suspect there are alot of thin out of shape people that got offended and thats why everyone spazzed over this article. But to them I say, Lindsey aint talking about you.
She is talking about people who look like they havent eaten in years, who are uber thin but not fit or healthy. and if that is you well……
Oh no! God forbid women have some cellulite!
Whatever. Lindsay just lost some points from me.
OK — so the skinny fat thing I think is true for a lot of people (not just women) in Hollywood. There are plenty of people who value “skinny” over “healthy” and so lose weight only by dieting, not by adding in fitness. But the way she chose to discuss it was petty and catty.
She looks like an ugly Malin Akerman. That said, I think her shade is at Tiger’s ex, who probably DOES weigh half of what Vonn does. Still nasty shade though. In order to beat the problem you can’t be part of it.
I do like her dresses though. Especially the blue one.
Well in my opinion she is telling the truth as she saw it. I wasn’t at the Met Ball and so I can’t say that she is NOT telling the truth. And I gotta say there are people out there who are in the limelight who have zero talent but Lindsey can ski and ski beyond well so I will put her above those who have zero talent any day of the week. And I think being strong and healthy is way sexier than being underweight and boney any day of the week. So I say kudos to her for speaking her truth.
Can someone ID the blue dress??
I’m not 100% sure, but I think the blue dress is Issa.
I had never heard a quote from this person in my life before and the first one I hear is like some woman bashing, bitch-fight. Nice. Sounds like her and Tiger are the perfect douchey matchup.
1) She still gets press because she is beautiful.
2) I wish the press would ask talented, capable women about something other than their looks and their boyfriends.
3) But given they’re only interested in Lindsay because of her looks and her boyfriend, I guess she would then get no press at all. Catch-22.
I dare say that no athlete should feel insecure when sharing the space with skinny, fragile people who starve themselves, take pills in order to stay (un-naturally) thin. It’s no small feat being an athlete, those people are achievers.
*I haven’t heard about her before she started dating TW, I don’t follow winter sports.
I have no problem with what she said. I think she’s probably right.
What she said might hurt some people’s feelings, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. It doesn’t mean she shouldn’t say it either.
Dear Lindsey,
Dorothy Hamill called, and she would like to have her skating dress returned as soon as possible.. Thank-you.
The only thing I get from this is that it is troubling to land in the middle of weight obsessed/disordered society. Where you may have been immersed in a strength and health obsessed one. And to notice the disconnects and speak about them clumsily is also taboo.
“There’s still a stigma surrounding psychiatric medication.”
That should read: “There’s still a stigma surrounding depression.” Or, “There’s still a stigma surrounding mental illness.”
Vonn isn’t my favorite person, but my respect for her just shot up a thousand-fold.
Would any secure woman date Tiger Woods?
And is she wearing a skating outfit on the red carpet?
It makes her look “husky”.
So many women of that body type were plowed by Tiger Woods. Look at the women he chose! Insecure Lindsey??
funny how most of the comments are in response to her weight & appearance related remarks. no one is interested in what she has to say about depression and how she deals with it.
To be fair, the headline and the way the article was framed puts the focus on her comments about body types.
Thx. Kitten, I’ve read your comments on other posts and you always seem to have something meaningful and intelligent to add to the discussion. In particular, I liked what you had to say on the Rachel Zoe post.
Did she lie? Maybe she could have used better verbiage but I agree with her: the Tracy Anderson method that so many female celebrities adhere to of starving yourself and then eating some ice chips is nothing to aspire to.
She’s an Olympic athlete, of course she looks at bodies differently than some of the rest of us. I have to agree with her, you can see plenty of very thin people that you know don’t exercise, they just eat very little to stay that small.
I’d say that’s more true of the average 20-something. Yes, some of us work out, but just for comparison, we don’t have personal trainers. And a lot of girls my age still do the all-cardio thing. So many women I know just run, run, run, and believe the Tracy Anderson +3 lb bulk crap.
I understand what she is talking about. For some reason the trend for women in Hollywood right now is to have only “lean muscle”. If a woman has muscles that show, she is criticized. I remember watching an episode of Fashion Police in which Kelly was saying Jessica Biel looked ugly in her dress because she had too much arm muscle showing. It was a ridiculous statement. I think that the trend has caused many famous women to look ill and a bit saggy. However, they seem to only care that they are skinny without muscles showing.
Too much sensitivity today!! It’s Lindsay Vonn – who is dating Tiger Woods. Reality check ladies.
Why was that knob invited to the Met gala anyway, they both make me yawn.
Well, I can’t disagree with her.
I think you’re way off here, CB. I’ve seen Lindsey in person, and I’ve been to the Met Gala. And please don’t yell at me about “skinny shaming” . The Met Gala is not full of naturally skinny women who are fit and healthy and happen to be naturally very slender. It is a very specific crowd: ANNA’s crowd. People diet/ starve themselves for weeks to fit into size 0 or 2 Couture gowns that they buy or borrow. Lindsey is a real glamazon- quite tall, and extremely, (I’d say fantastically), muscular. She’s a professional athlete!
I’m sure it’s possible that Lindsey, as a woman, felt very out of place, even if she, as an athlete, knows better. She really IS twice the size of many women there. Maybe she didn’t need to shade other women there for being skinny-fat, but I for one understand her point, am glad she recognizes that starving for fashion is not a great idea, and stands up for a different standard of beauty than what we see most often these days.
Lindsay can never take away from the true “star” of the 2013 Gala….the feverishly floral focus of Kim Kardashian’s Kouch Kouture.
Now THAT will live in infamy.
She is so right! You can have a slender dancer’s body and till be fit. Just lots of work and sensible nutrition. Gee bet Gwyneth is off having that new anti cellulite treatment done this very minute after those unflattering butt cheek flashing pic of her surfaced on net the other day (quickly shut down :-). Sick part was she was strolling around (dragging for PR prop) her daughter with her sad cellulite checks hanging out – gross. Not the fact that she doesn’t have a perfect body – so what, not shaming anyone here – except her because she is always yapping about her perfect body and shaming ours. lus, she shouldn’t be wearing shorts like that while strolling around in pap-ridden part of LA all day with daughter in tow – that’s shameful. And again, if you have ever been or seen someone who is thin from eating disorders or illness it is horrible looking. If they are that way from proper diet and exercise – it’s beautiful. Just like any and all body types – all great if healthy! And do if for your health and to feel and look how you want to – not for our ridiculously looks oriented society today with all these medically ignorant celebs preaching their extremist views just to make money, get attention by shaming other women – horrible!.
Nonsense, Dorothy. Don’t you remember? Gwneth’s body was “transformed” by the illustrious Tracey Anderson!!?? Cellulite and sagging butt cheeks are thing of the past for Ms. Paltrow.
You are kidding here right? Not being rude…just really – you are kidding?
So now should we all go out and train to be in the Olympics as I cant unsee anything other than too skinny, skinny fat, fat, fat skinny, obese, all of us with cellulite? Im going to lift weights and train all day like lindsey. Then I’ll be perfect.
I completely agree with her. As a personal trainer, I can always tell who works out & who doesn’t based on their quality of muscle tone. Lindsay Vonn is an athlete & is able to assess. It’s got nothing to do with being insecure or body shaming *eyeroll*. It is what it is.
Her boyfriend will fuck anything with a pulse so she need’t be too worried about her looks from that perspective.
A newcomer here. I don’t get the hate. She IS absolutely right. Those celebs no matter what they say diet, hit the gym and do sort of things for one and only one reason: to be skinny. Then they are trying to sell an image of what normal, standard women should look like. And that is for me even more shocking and relevant to point out than a trained athlete who knows better than average people.
Btw have you seen Gwyneth’s last bikini pics? Tons of cellulites. Hadn’t she been so loud about her perfect way of life especially food, and her perfect body training with her perfect trainer? I think that it’s the lies and fakeness that celebrity women are selling us that make many women and girls feel bashed and downgraded, and not someone who suggests them to eat some cheeseburger. In my world it just means put some meat on.
I agree with you on all counts except I think celebs, at least actresses, are pressured to be skinny by Hollywood. They won’t get the parts they want if they might look even a tad thick on screen. But you’re right, some of these women are skinny and seem fit in clothes, but then when you see what their bodies really look – lack of muscle or tone, it’s all just smokescreens & mirrors. I prefer a little junk in my trunk. If there’s one thing that is a total turn-off, it’s those flat hanging butts (*cough**Miley*!)
Ugh. All these women, including Vonn earn a living with their bodies. The average woman does have to/want work out 4 hours a day.
BTW, most professional athletes are hardly examples of longevity or successful aging. I think we should re-evaluate our use of them as models of health as well. The longest lived/healthiest people around eat natural foods and do moderate activities like walking, tai chi, yoga and have generally active lives.
The one thing that we all have to remember is that if you’re being interviewed, your comments will be put to print. Young, fragile, impressionable girls will read it. Insulting any body type–skinny, overweight, WHATEVER, can start a shit storm in a teen’s mind. I, personally would take the high road and be very general in my comments. But then again, that’s just me. 🙂
So many commenters here sound dreadful. Disparaging Vonn for making comments about bodies them doing the exact same things themselves. All the while giving sc used as to why it’s okay for them to do so. Pfft.
For the record, I have no problem commenting either positively or negatively on someone’s appearance, though I don’t do it often. I don’t feel I’m skinny-shaming if I say Angelina looks like she needs a burger or if I say Melissa M needs to cut the burgers. I don’t feel bad if my opinion is someone’s dress is unflattering, or lipstick is ugly (see LeeAnn in previous entry), or hair colour is just ugly.
Generally, as I said, I don’t make these comments, but if I do they will likely be made on a celeb gossip site. I’m not here for a lesson in humanity, sisterhood, and to be told how to think and behave.
Xxx
Wow. Everyone just went nuts over this one lol.
It’s counter productive and contradicting one’s self to throw shade at the skinnies but claim you like your own body. Not buying it. She sounds jealous and petty. It’s silly anyway, actresses and singers want to be thin because of the camera and because Hollywood demands it. Athletes want muscle and strength. You can’t really compare the two. For me, I think the most attractive is somewhere in between. Don’t care for skeletal skinny like Jolie but find Vonn to be masculine. Neither are sexy.
I don’t think she is shading anyone. She has a strong body, she is an athlete. It’s great to see some variety in our media. Not everyone should be size 0.
And she is right, so many celebrities have cellulite, some are too skinny and magazines photoshop them to perfection. I don’t see what’s the big deal with her comments. She simply says you have to eat real food and exercise. Don’t we all agree on this?