Wow, Penelope Disick looks like her dad, right? It’s been a while since I’ve looked at photos of Penelope, so that surprised me. Anyway, I haven’t been paying much attention to Kourtney Kardashian lately, for many reasons. One, she’s pleasantly boring these days. She’s a mom with two young children and from what I can tell, she enjoys motherhood and she’s very hands-on with her kids. That makes her a better person and a less-interesting celebrity. I also pay less attention to Kourtney because I feel like out of all the Kardashian/Jenner girls, Kourtney is the one most out of her mother’s reach. Like, Kourtney doesn’t give a crap about Lucifer’s Homegirl’s agenda. She’s not under Kris’s thumb as much as her sisters.
But that’s not the point of this story. The point of this story is that Kourtney was recently traveling with her kids and someone on the plane shushed her children. And Kourtney took to Twitter about it:
Mess with Kourtney Kardashian‘s kids, and more than 10 million people will hear about it.
The 34-year-old reality star, angry after a fellow passenger on a plane told her children Mason and Penelope to cover their mouths, tweeted to her 10.5 million followers Tuesday, “People on airplanes are so wild these days… Telling other people’s children to cover their mouths. Cover YOUR mouth.”
Kourtney was returning from a Mexican vacation at the resort Casa Aramara, where she, her partner Scott Disick, and their kids enjoyed fun and sun. By the way, don’t expect anyone to shush Kourtney’s niece North — and with her dad’s temper, that’s a very good thing! — as Kim Kardashian and Kanye West travel via a private jet these days.
Oh, this should get The Motherhood Industrial Complex riled up. I can’t wait! Kourtney left the tweet up, so it’s not like she’s the one making any apologies. My personal take: if someone, a stranger, tells your child to “cover your mouth,” it’s off-side and rude, especially if it’s a baby or a toddler. If it was Mason acting up and being loud on a plane? It’s still rude to say something to the child, but what are the rules for saying something to the mom?
There’s another thought I had – what if the “cover your mouth” is about coughing or sneezing? When I was a kid, I was told “cover your mouth” when I coughed. That might be a different situation. GERMS. Little-kid germs too.
Also – Kourtney recently got a cat. I thought about writing it up a while back but… I don’t know, I think Kourtney is capable of taking care of a cat. This won’t be another Mercy situation.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I don’t believe in disciplining other people’s kids. What I do think is parents should control their kids in public if they are being loud etc because it’s annoying on the plane if everyone is trapped and a kid is disturbing the peace. A lot of parents just ignore their kids when they are being bratty.
I would ask the flight attendant to handle the situation but I wonder if her being a Kardashian would influence the attendant not to say anything?
Thats the problem with todays kids / teens. When I was a kid you respected your parents – or anyone that was an adult. And yes, my gran, mom, aunts, even strangers would tell me not to do something if what I was doing was wrong. Now even relatives can’t step in to say anything to kids and if you say something to the parents they all offended.
These days parents barely parent their kids, they run wild through stores, yelling,screaming and coughing all over everything. I have told kids and grown adults to COVER your mouth if they were coughing all over everything.
I have also asked kids where is your mother? Dont’ do that if they are making a huge mess / running through stores, yelling, screaming, knocking into me — and yes I am a parent. I am my kids PARENT not their friend, and I have noticed too many lazy parents or parents trying to be friends with their kids. When they are adults fine, but you have a job to do – do it or don’t have kids.
My kids are not stepford kids, but they do not yell and scream in stores, or run wild. If they have a huge temper tantrum in the store I WILL walk out without my full cart and haul them home. I am also not one to give things to shut up kids while shopping. I see that all the time as well .. bribing kids. Nope not in this house.
I absolutely agree with this 110%!!! I was raised same way and feel exact same way u do.
^ this.
I remember being told to keep my hands in my pockets as a kid in nice stores as well so as to not get my grubby kid hands all over things or break something. Then again I also got my arse lifted a bit if I pulled half the crap I see kids pulling in public today. As much as at the time I screamed bloody murder about it I can appreciate now that it taught me consequences for my actions. Something missing in too many people today. And it’s all because everyone wants to be the ‘cool parent’.
I would have just walked up to mother and told her to control her spawn with a toddler…they don’t get it yet. A kid over the age of 5? Oh I’d have told them to sit and shut up. I have no fear of the Mommy mafia.
+2
+1000
AMEN!
Yes! When I was growing up, any adult would discipline any child. Not beat them or anything, but if you were playing at the Smiths’ house, Mrs. Smith would issue orders to you just like your own parents would. The good side of this was that every parent in the neighborhood was looking out for every child. We all grew up respecting all adults, especially teachers, for whom we had a sort of awe. If KMom wasn’t controlling her kids, then the stranger on the plane had every right to say something.
I agree Hadley!!!
The kid was probably coughing up a lung on a complete stranger, its not often that I see a kid that does not cover his mouth. Its time she started teaching them that.
I see nothing wrong w/it–you are on a commercial flight be mindful of others space.
Totally agree, HadleyB! I was also raised that way. I’ve parented other people’s kids when they’re running around and being reckless away from their parents. It’s funny that you mentioned you’re a parent. I never did that before I had my son, but now it’s like I’m unable *not* to say anything if I see kids acting up. I think the mouth filter also erodes with time- lol. I’m pretty strict with my kid re: how he behaves in public. He knows public domain (restaurants, stores, etc.) is about respect for other people and not making disruptions.
+1. Thanks for this!
Oh my god, a 3 year old kid placed next to me on the subway was being a 3 year old : he was picking his nose and wiping the goodies on himself, and then I felt his hand swipe me on the left side of my coat. (to answer your question, yes, he got me)
WHat should I have done?
Never realized that she looks exactly like Rob til I saw that header pic!! :0
Yup – a lot of smoke and mirrors and photoshopping with that group. It is a brutal pic. But I will give her props for going out looking like utter crap, and apparently she has not put fillers in those deep lines around her nose (or she’s just late in her next treatment).
Sounds like the kids were sneezing and coughing all over the place. And yes, cover those kids mouth the best you can if they’re coughing on a crowded plane.
That’s what I assumed. Instead of being annoyed and airing it on social media, she should have handed the kids a tissue. It’s basic good health manners.
Handle your unruly kids.. There is nothing worse than out of control kids on a plane. That being said, it surprises me about her kids. I can’t picture her allowing that, but kids are kids.
I agree the kids were coughing, not talking loudly. Even if it’s inappropriate for someone to discipline someone else’s child, Kourtney needs to have a seat and get over herself.
That’s not even disciplining someone else’s child. I also believe the comment was in regard to coughing or sneezing, and I don’t consider reminding a small child to cover their mouth when they do so to be discipline.
“cover your mouth” sounds like the kid was coughing or sneezing. In which case if the parents were just ignoring an open mouth spreading germs. Most people i’ve seen on planes do the same in that situation.
Agreed. You are 8x more likely to develop a cold/flu on a plane. Sounds to me like the kids were coughing. I would have said something too, but not to the kids but the parents.
I agree, if the kids were coughing and sneezing, they should be told to cover their mouths. No one wants to catch a cold ! Also, I remember a few years ago Kim tweeted she was upset that someone on her plane had a screaming child that cried the entire time and it bothered her so she went on twitter to complain about it. I wonder if she still feels the same way.
Ugh. Kim would complain about a crying baby. I hate people who get mad about this. You think the parent is enjoying a crying baby? you think that if they COULD just make them stop crying, like you’ve asked, they would have done it by now? Trust me. Every parent hates their baby crying. I had panic attacks on a plane with my then 8 month old because I was terrified of her getting restless or crying. Luckily everyone around us gave us sweet smiles during boarding and said not to worry. And it went fine. But it was worse for me than everyone else, for sure.
@ Wiffie – I’m glad it went well for you! I was one of those nasty babies that had colic, and my parents traveled a LOT when I was a baby. I feel so sorry for what I must have put the passengers of those planes through.
I agree that, especially in the case of a colic baby, the parents really can’t do anything about it crying. However, at the same time, I get horrific migraines now so a baby screaming in a plane for 6 hours straight would make me not only immobilized in pain, but put me into a seething rage. However in this specific case, I agree with pretty much everyone else that the kids were coughing and/or sneezing without covering their mouths, which is disgusting, unsanitary and disrespectful to other people jam packed into a flying tube with you. I would’ve said something too.
A baby crying and toddlers coughing are two different things. It’s hard to stop a baby from crying as most of the time they are crying because their ears hurt. But it’s important to teach children good manners, and coughing and sneezing on people is not ok. Kourtney sometimes acts like she’s the most important mother in the world and her kids are the most important. It’s ok for her to feel that way, but she shouldn’t expect the rest of us to.
Wiffie-I’m not a parent but I totally get screaming babies. They are communicating in the only way they can. It’s what babies do.
It’s the 2+ kids screaming/crying/acting like animals that bother me. They are old enough to be controlled, but a lot of parents just don’t seem to care. I was at the library a while ago and a mom ignored her screaming toddler for TWENTY MINUTES, just browsing and letting him follow along behind her screaming. I get that even good kids with good parents have tantrums, because they’re kids. But there comes a time to remove them from the situation, yes?
Instead of reprimanding the KIDS, you ask the PARENT to control offending behavior. I have done this time and again in movie theaters. If a kid is kicking my seat, for instance, I turn around and pleasantly say “would you please stop her/him from kicking my chair? Most of the time, what a child is doing is “white noise” so to speak, or they’re not paying attention to the child. Now if a teen is in the movie theater being unruly, I WILL tell them to keep it down. I will also stop a child from doing something that could potentially cause them harm. I saw a little boy in a grocery store climbing on the shelves and his mother was within spitting distance and I said “sweetie, come down from there before you hurt yourself”. That got mom’s attention with a quickness. the kid couldn’t have been more than 4 years old. I don’t understand how parents don’t keep a closer eye on their kids. That’s how kids end up kidnapped or otherwise preyed upon. When my son was younger, he was taught to stay by my side whenever we were in stores.
I once endured 20 God-forsaken hours on a coach journey to Europe with a couple of parents who let their feral kids run wild and ignored any polite requests to control them.
I don’t normally believe in corporal punishment, but that mum & dad were in desperate need of a smack on the behind!
I was in a queue buying painkillers for my migraine and this child, about 6 or 7, was banging a drum stick against the metal railing and it was also bouncing against my leg.
His mother was further up the queue ignoring the almighty racket so I said to the child “Excuse me, you’re hitting me with your stick. Please could you stop.”
Suddenly she was there SCREAMING at me for “controlling her child” and how dare I address her precious angel, he did nothing wrong, I was a b*tch, etc etc.
Some parents are mental.
Ugh, if people are not going to watch their children then they shouldn’t take them out! I say that as someone with a child. When people don’t watch their kids, those kids become everyone’s problem. Some parents are truly mental indeed!
Oh you’re totally entitled to ask a child to stop hitting you.
What I also can’t stand is when you have people over at your house and they bring their kids along (not a problem), but then they let their kids run wild in your home and cause a huge mess, with hand prints on the walls and furniture, touching and playing with things they shouldn’t. All the while the parents are just sitting there not giving a f*ck. Hellooo it’s not a damn playground, it’s someones house ! Your kids are your responsibility.
I got stuck working video/sales for a kids dance event with my husband while dealing with a migraine. The area they had my booth in was on marble flooring. A delightful moppet of 6 decided that she needed to practice her tap routine right. f^cking. in. front. of. my. booth. I asked nicely ‘Honey I’ve got a bad headache could you go elsewhere and do that with your team/coach?’….little brat smiled said ‘No I wanna do it here.’ and kept it up for another 30 mins until I was vomiting in a bucket.
Took all my self control not to pour my bucket over her little brat head.
Miz (and other migraineurs) I am so sorry you get migraines! I’ve gotten them for 30 years – the real kind where you puke in a bucket, not the kind where people get dressed up and go out and then whine about having a “migraine” ha ha.
If Mason sneezed on me in an airplane I sure as hecko would tell him to cover his mouth. That’s like a guaranteed 10 days of some kid kold! I’ve never heard of anyone saying “cover your mouth” for talking or screaming.
Kourtney may have lucked out by being the least pretty of the bunch. Maybe the mother gave up on monetizing her.
@Belle: Girl, I know! That drives me nuts when people have a bad headache and go “Oh, I have a terrible migraine.” Do you? Because when I have a migraine, I have visual disturbances for 20 minutes, and then cannot physically stand light or sound until the migraine is gone. Real migraines are debilitating. People do that with the flu, too. The flu is not a bad cold. It will lay you out flat. Rant over!
Sympathizing with you ladies! Sitting here with the start of a migraine right now. Laying in the dark with a cup of tea and a tv show I don’t have to think too much about is pretty much all I can do. Migraines are the worst.
On topic: If this is about coughing or sneezing, I would hardly say its “wild” of someone to suggest they cover their mouths. Thats a very dramatic reaction to a simple, helpful request. Typical Kardashian.
Ugh, sorry, Snarky- hope you feel better soon!
I just got over a horrible 4 day long migraine. Nausea, blurry vision, and horrible pain. I managed to work the last day and I am so glad its over. I thought I was done with this in college!
Any of you ever try Botox for your migraines? Just wondering. I only get a migraine about once a year (though I had a cluster of them in college), so it wouldn’t be cost-effective for me. I do neurology clinical research and our office is doing two migraine trials with Botox–one for adults and one for teens, which we just started today. We’ve had a lot of migraine discussions today. I’m not promoting it at all, mind you. I’m a blinded researcher so I don’t know who’s on placebo and who’s not, but our adult patients are really liking it.
It’s in the list of potential things. Being Canadian I’ve been on a wait list for a migraine clinic for over a year trying to get them figured out after 27+ years and worsening symptoms. It’ll depend on how the battery of tests go if I’m a candidate for Botox though I have known people who did get it and thought it was the best thing ever. Anything would be a help given that I’m at a stage of needing to give myself IM gravol injections to handle the nausea.
Puke buckets up to my other migrainey celebitchers.
+1, and LOL @ “feral kids”.
EVERYONE should be taught at the earliest ages to cover their mouths. I cannot stand coughers and sneezers with no regard for the health of others. I am sure Kourtney would be less upset about mouth covering if someone were coughing or sneezing by her children.
I assume that is what was meant by “cover your mouths”. I tell my cousins little ones all the time (nicely) to cover their mouths when they cough or sneeze. My cousin appreciates it and the kids do it and are learning it is important and the polite thing to do.
Man I was at the daycare and this kid coughed right in my daughter’s face. You better believe I told him to cover his mouth. i actually have no problem telling little kids what to do, and if their parents get mad so be it. Some things need to be addressed, and immediately.
Exactly!
That’s why I used to hate going to my son’s school when he was little. The kids always wanted to swarm and say hello, touching me with their dirty, sticky hands. (Why are little kids always sticky?) I know it’s terrible to say, but those little hands on me always made my flesh crawl a little. They were all adorable, but I just didn’t the little crumb snatchers touching me. Little kid germs…ewww.
It is rude but kids can act annoying + kid has Kardashian and lord disick genes + there are on a plane
If you can’t handle a bit of noise coming from kids then you probably shouldn’t leave your house in the morning, because kids are everywhere. It is unacceptable to discipline someone else’s child, whether for being noisy or sneezing without covering their mouths. You’re an adult, kids make noise and aren’t perfect, deal with it.
My kids can be loud and annoying and I try my best to teach them. I tell them to turn down their voice and still at dozens of times a day but when they get caught up in the excitement playing with each other they forget. It causes me a lot of stress and anxiety that people get annoyed but I do try my damn best. Kids are just not cognitively there yet to behave like little adults. Kourtney’s kids are very young and might not cover their mouths each time.
+1. Agree, but I think the whole ‘cover your mouth’ was due to coughing or sneezing. But you know what, there are plenty of times I’m out and adults are coughing, sneezing, and spitting while showing no consideration for anyone around them. Covering up is too much to ask I guess, and I’ll just hold my breath and walk away. As you said, kids are not able to act like little adults, while we can try our hardest to teach them manners they are kids and will slip up.
Now, I WILL pull and adults card if they are coughing or sneezing in my personal space. One of my coworkers was talking to me about a project we were working on and he literally sneezed on my head. ON MY HEAD! I asked him if he knew how disgusting that was and if he ever did it again I would karate chop him in his adam’s apple.
And just because they’re kids doesn’t give them an excuse to do whatever the F they want either. Yes, I agree you shouldn’t disicpline other people’s kids. But if a kid is acting up (kicking chairs, screaming etc) you shouldn’t have to put up with that.
Tiny toddlers aren’t going to behave as well as say, an elementary aged child. So in that case, a two year old may forget to cover their mouths. It is still a parents job to try to teach their child manners and to respect those around them. I will always give the parent the benefit of the doubt if they are trying to work with or control their child (taking a toddler out in public can be very trying and people can be unnecessarily cruel about it sometimes). If a child is doing something dangerous or annoying with no parent in sight though, I will absolutely say something. I will not tolerate someone who isn’t willing to watch or control their child.
I have a hard time believing that this was a single occurrence, for another adult to step in and say something. But if I give the benefit of the doubt, why not just reinforce what the stranger said, if the kid was coughing? It’s not like the stranger put his/her hands on the child. Even if you are annoyed with someone butting in, isn’t the idea to reinforce etiquette?
I think she was insulted because she wasn’t doing her job as a parent, so she became indignant that someone pointed it out. That’s my opinion. I’ve seen this type of thing play out, time and again. I’ve seen really good parents who even with their best efforts can’t hold it together, but people are generally kinder to them.
+ 1 Kiddo.
It’s not about the children. It’s about bad parents who don’t consider the rest of the universe. Other people are out there, some are adults, get used to it, your children will one day even be adults. If you are watching and disciplining your own children, there is no cause for someone else to say something.
This. I know I have no right to preach as I do not have kids and will likely never have them (I love my childfree life), but it is just mind boggling how DIFFERENTLY people parents their kids today versus how my parents generation raised us. And I am not saying my parents generation was perfect, they were far from it, but parents are so helicopter these days. I don’t know if social media has made it worse or just more apparent, but so many people seem to think the world revolves around their kids and how doesn’t everyone else not love their kids just as much as they do?
Case in point. My cousin has two little girls, one who is 4 and one who is 8 months. She regularly goes to see my best friend to get her hair done (he is a high-end hairstylist working in a very upscale salon), and every time she goes, she brings the girls with her. And my cousin does NOT discipline her kids at ALL. My friend has complained to me many times that the 4 year old runs around the salon yelling like it’s a playground and that my cousin will hold the baby the whole time she’s getting her hair done because she’s a screamer. The owner of the salon has told my cousin to quiet her kids down and has hinted that his salon isn’t really a place for children, yet she still brings them in each time. The last time she went in, another client went up her and very nicely told her that she used to bring her kids in when she was getting her hair done but she realized that it wasn’t a nice experience for other people getting their hair done. It went right over my cousin’s head! My friend had to tell her before her last appointment that there was a new salon policy that children were no longer allowed there as it wasn’t a good experience for other people who were paying such high prices to get their hair done (there isn’t really such a policy, but the 4 year old is such a monster that no one in the salon wanted her there anymore). And still my cousin said, but the girls like coming to the salon with me. Gah!!!
My point of this long ramble is, is that some people just don’t realize that how they parent their children CAN affect other people at times. I’m sure with Kourtney it was just a case of her kids coughing and not covering their mouths, but because they are little, SHE should be doing that for them, especially in such cramped germy quarters like a plane.
If your cousin’s salon lets her get away with outright ignoring their requests, they deserve everything they get, including other customers going elsewhere. If it were my salon, she’d be told that if she came for a service with her children, there will be no service.
This, precisely. If coughing was the issue, it speaks volumes about KK that she couldn’t be bothered to 1) teach her children to cover their coughs or, alternatively, 2) cover the cough herself, for god’s sake. Be responsible for your child, you are the adult. What a piece of work.
Tantrums/ boisterousness : I have been directly in front of a tantruming child on an airplane who was so out of control I fully expected her to vomit from the force of her crying. She just needed to be held and get beyond it. It was heartbreaking to hear that degree of distress. Also a teachable moment for my periodically tolerance- challenged teen daughter to put herself in that child’s/ family’s shoes; that “this too shall pass”. Sure enough, the sobs wore down, and she fell asleep.
Kids cannot be expected to comport themselves with the restraint adults are capable of, and being tolerant of that fact reduces your own stress. Simmer down!
First off I am getting a little sick of reading how different parenting is today than on so and so’s generation. All of us do not parent the same, period. In fact, I am much stricter with my kids than my parents were with me. And I hope none of you saying this are generation X or Y’ers because that is the same thing “they” used to say about us when we were kids. It is true, some people today are not willing to attempt to control their children’s behavior. On the other hand, I have also seen parents who are attempting to control a toddler’s behavior and strangers still have something to say. I guarantee you would not get a kind response from me if I was already dealing with a tantrum or a sick kid and you came to tell me or my kid something about it.
I do have to agree with this. I know what it’s like to fly with a child, especially a baby or toddler. Their ears are popping, and while adults are used to that annoyance, it is very uncomfortable. I definitely cut parents a lot of slack in that instance. If a kid it kicking my chair, however, I will alert the parent because it’s annoying and it directly affects me.
As far as kids today having no respect and not being raised like we did, I don’t agree with that. Are there parents who are oblivious to their children’s behavior…absolutely. But, IMO, kids were treated like property when I was a kid. You know, the whole “children should be seen and not heard”. I just don’t agree with that. I think kids should have a voice so that they feel comfortable coming to you with their problems. Since my son was in second or third grade, if he was punished for something and he had an opinion about it, I would encourage him to voice it. It rarely (if ever) changed my mind about the punishment but I wanted him to feel like he’d been heard. I also explained WHY he was being punished. I think that reinforces why what they did was not proper behavior so he didn’t do it again.
@IL: Well, then don’t bring your kids around the general public if you have no ability to control or teach them basic common courtesy.
I remember seeing a kid that could not have been older than 3 coughing in the crook of their arm. I immediately thanked the parents for teaching their child that. Mother was a doctor and said she taught her kids by example since babyhood when she would take their hand and cover their mouth and say it at the same time.
If they can, you and everyone else can too and if not, someone like me will (respectfully) tell them and you to do so.
I don’t think anyone is talking about kids who make “a bit” of noise. Also, why should I be isolated in my house because you can’t control or teach your feral child to behave? I’ve seen kids that are angels in public, and that’s because the parents taught them from an early age to be calm and respectful.
If a child is being difficult, especially if a parent has made an attempt to calm the child, then why is it so terrible if another adult tries to help? I have been on planes where children were crying and/or angry, and I try to get their attention to make them laugh or engage them in conversation to take their mind off their issue. I see this as no different than telling a child he shouldn’t run from his mother in a store. It is all in the delivery, which should be kind.
That’s not true at all. I live my entire life barely encountering children. I frequent places that are geared toward adults and I go to the grocery store when kids are unlikely to be there. In my opinion, there are too many tiny maniacs running around screaming, coughing, and sneezing all over things. And if I am out and one coughs on me, s/he will be politely told to cover their mouth. I don’t have to put up with bad behavior or nasty germs just because their parents do.
It sounds like I don’t like children, right? In truth, I have nothing against children. It’s the bad parents I blame. I love my friends’ kids and my cousins’ kids, who are well-behaved because their parents are responsible and teach them how to act. They’re not little robots, but they’re not heathens and they are happy.
When I read “cover your mouth”…all I could think of was coughing and sneezing, too. My mom would always tell us to make sure to cover our mouths when we coughed or sneezed, and I told my kids the same thing. I was just reading that planes are one of the places that have the most germs…so if the kids were coughing all over the place, I may have told them the same thing…nicely, of course….but, I don’t want to get sick! But if the kids were being noisy, then I would have asked the parents to please try to keep their kids a little quieter….maybe they should just ask Kanye for his private jet…problem solved!
Kourtney should teach her children to cover their mouths when coughing or sneezing. Perhaps if she was paying attention to what they were doing, someone else wouldn’t have to
She has two kids. It’s entirely possible she was focused one kid when the other coughed. Most parents do teach their kids to cover their mouths but her kids are very young and probably forget.
i just get the impression that this might have been going on for a while before something was actually said. I highly doubt she travels alone with two kids.
Nothing in this story indicates this was going on for awhile. I can absolutely believe her kid coughed once and someone said something. People are rude. I have seen people complain about kids in places intended for kids.
Well she did have time to tweet……
Was she tweeting on the plane or after she got off? Perhaps her kids had fallen asleep. I’ve never sent a tweet is it that time consuming?
Yes, of course doutzen, you’re right. Perhaps the kids were asleep and she was home when she decided to share with 10 million people that someone had asked a child to cover their mouth, like any other person would be expected to do.
I tell my toddlers to cover their mouth every time they cough/sneeze but they rarely do it in time. I think they are still learning to recognize “that” feeling means I’m about to sneeze, so I should cover my mouth. Same with potty training. They need to learn “that” feeling means I need to go to the potty ASAP. I wouldn’t have a problem with someone reminding them to cover their mouths if I didn’t notice but it’s unfair to expect a 1-3 year old to have the same courtesy level as an adult.
I always carry disinfecting wipes for this reason. If my child coughes or sneezes on something because they forgot to cover their mouth I remind them then I hand them the wipe and have them clean off whatever they have just got their germs on.
Wow, another woman who acts like she invented motherhood, a true sign that you’re doing it wrong.
If it’s coughing/sneezing you would think the parent would have the common sense to try to cover if they can’t. If loud and annoying I personally wouldn’t say myself as people have been killed for less but side eye and tell the flight attendant. I cannot STAND it when parents let their kids run rampant in a store, around tables in a restuarant it’s like look how fabulous my kids are they can do whatever. I have a son and he would get crazy eyes from me if he even thought about it. We were on a flight to S of France 620 departure cheap airline so must be there at 5a if not earlier, 2 kids on there maybe 4 y/o with a whistle that went up/down I don’t want it’s called but finally after 1/2 hour some (2 or more) passengers said something to the parents. She took the whistle but then gave him some chocolate 🙂
Mother of god, a slide whistle on a plane???
Why would anyone think that was a good idea??
I was out to dinner the other night and kids were running around screaming.
I get that they’re excited but somebody should have stopped them doing that. It spoiled my night out a bit.
People always say that Khloe is their favourite,but out of all of them i like Kourtney,ofcourse she still has some famewhorism in her but to a lesser degree. And she really does seem dedicated to her children. I ACTUALLY think Khloe is next to Kim on the attention seeking scale she just covers it well by being very nice.
I like Kourtney too!!! I think that she is a good mother and I she gets irritated by her own mother and doesn’t hide it…it’s hilarious.
She is my favourite of the 3 then Khloe… but I never watch them anymore..
“Cover Your mouth” more sounds like a coughing/sneezing issue. Which I don’t think is a big deal. I put in the same bag as a cashier telling a child to say the magic word (please) before they get something.
However scolding other people’s children is a no-no. But that doesn’t mean you have to put up with their behavior either. Either calmly tell the parents about how their kids are being a nuisance, and/or tell someone of higher authority.
“Discipline” is so much more than a shushing. I wasn’t there, but there’s a big difference between kid being kids, which is charming and kids who don’t know when or how to settle down and not be a nuisance. It’s an important thing for them to learn.
I think Kourtney does her own thing, mind the business and has deep issues with Kris’s former and possibly present philandering.
Maybe if she would get off her phone and pay attention someone else wouldn’t be putting their 2 cents in. In my town, all I see are parents at parks, in malls, restaurants on their phones instead of interacting and paying attention to their kids. Looks so sad to me.
I just think planes are a whole other thing- you are in such tight quarters for so long, and spreading germs is definitely an issue on a plane. What’s missing of course is- was the child in question standing in seat, facing back towards other passengers and coughing/sneezing? Then I don’t have a problem with the recipient of germ-laden air saying, “please cover your mouth/nose”. Given the level of defensiveness in her response, I bet this is how it played out.
And trust, the cold germs you get from little kids are just the worst! Kid is over it in days, while the adult takes weeks!
That is so true! The worst cold I ever got in my life was from my friend’s 18-month old. I don’t know what that little fella was carrying, but I’ve never had a cold knock me flat like that in my life.
So true! When I was teaching preschool a few kids spent a day or two at home with a stomach bug. When I got it I ended up dehydrated in the ER, spent 3 days in the hospital and a total of one week out of work. It’s crazy how easily little ones get through major illnesses, the same illnesses that will bring an adult to their knees.
I am a mother and an aunt and hell even a great aunt now and nothing bothers me more than people who can not or will not take care of their children. I get it that on a plane kids can be loud and fussy and I really don’t take it too bad as long as I see the parent or parents at least giving it a try to settle them down. It is when they don’t even try that it gets uber annoying. I once witnessed a kid in meat shop going into all the different freezers and throwing stuff on the floor from each door he opened. The dad just stood their looking at different cuts of meat, when the butcher politely asked him to get his kid away from the freezers the guy went ape and said he would never shop there again and bla bla bla and stormed out kicking several items that his son had thrown on the floor as he went. And the guy next to me said, this is what happens when spoiled people start raising others. And I think he is right. I am not going to judge others when I wasn’t there to see what happened. If someone said to cover your mouth when you cough I see nothing wrong in that and she should have just smiled and agreed.
I think you hit the nail on the head. It’s about at least making an effort. If I see a parent trying to quell whatever the situation is, I think “ahh, poor mom or dad. Sometimes that happens.” But when I see a parent just let hell break loose all around them and simply go about their business, that is when I think really bad things about them, lol.
Seeing a parent on a plane making an effort with a somewhat wild child goes a long way towards tolerance in the other passengers. When the parent is just laughing and ignoring the ruckus, that’s when the people start feeling ugly about it.
Off topic but I am amazed at the places people will take their toddlers and infants. We go waterfalling a lot and it usually entails a harrowing hike/climb on cliffs, and then over ungainly rocks and through rather dangerous river currents with superslippery cascades to the point where it’s likely you’ll fall and scrape ankles, etc. If you’re a fit healthy person with no walking impediments, it’s not too bad and the payoff is worth the danger when you reach the falls. We went to a magical waterfall in Tennessee called Cummins Falls and after at least 45 minutes of wondering if we would be stopped by yet more obstacles or too deep a river situation, we finally made it. My hub had a hard time carrying a backpack with a couple of sandwiches in it. To our amazement there were people there with strollers and 1-year-olds. There were no flat surfaces anywhere to roll anything. People were carrying the strollers like stretchers. Their babies could have gotten very injured, if not killed during the cliff descent. Why bring your tiny baby EVERYWHERE? Unsafe!
@GG – Excellent point re making an effort to control the kids. I’ll feel sympathetic for someone who is trying to discipline an unruly child, whereas seeing kids run amok while the parents ignore them and do their own thing (like taking selfies, posing for the paps, and tweeting) evokes a very different response.
ITA. You never know if a child is perhaps autistic or has a behavioral problem (or even just having a bad day), so I always give the benefit of the doubt to someone trying to control an unruly child. It’s the parents who pay no attention to their child or laugh and encourage bad behavior that tick me off.
+1
The kid was probably standing up on their own seat, facing backwards and turning the person’s meal into a Petri dish.
“…turning the person’s meal into a Petri dish.”
That made me laugh. Thanks!
I find her tweeting about it annoying & passive aggressive. Her tweet leaves me thinking she said nothing to the person when all she needed to do was ask the person to speak with her as the parent. There is no need for this to be on twitter.
My job is a customer service job. There is a ramp to handle wheelchairs & strollers with a waist high railing so no one steps off the ramps edge injuring themselves. This railing is apparently a jungle gym to children & a viable seating area for teens & adults as opposed to a safety mechanism. I am amazed at the parents who consider it perfectly alright that their children flip around on it as if they are outside. Yes I will ask your child to please not to climb on the railing. Everything is fine until your child falls & cracks their head open & now you want to sue. You can bet my report will include the fact that you were not paying attention to your child & allowed them to behave in a manner which placed not only themselves but others in danger. That includes the parents who watch their kids ride their scooters up & down the ramp. You have made it clear to me that you are not parenting your child at that point. Oh and please do not try & discipline your child using me. The child needs to understand their behavior is inappropriate for the location they are in not because ‘the lady says’. It is because you could injure your self or others.
I hear you. When I was an undergraduate, I worked retail and the amount of parents who would let their small children run up and down the escalators was shocking. Especially when the child was barely out of the toddler stage. Some of them would put their hands down by the floor so that they were in danger of hurting themselves. But hey, Lil Precious was having a good time, right? And besides that, Mama’s got to check her cell phone!
And then when the kids fall the parents get all huffy about it, as though the store had been negligent in some way. I’ve seen that. It’s really something.
I work in retail and it’s crazy how people let their kids run loose in stores. One day I was working and this womans daughter couldn’t have been older than 6 and she was walking all over the store by herself while her mom ignored her and shopped. I was helping another customer and I guess that’s when the child walked out of the store(I didn’t notice she walked out!) her mother was freaking out saying she couldn’t find her. Finally we could hear the girl singing and she was outside in the parking lot. I thought the lady was gonna freak on me and blame me for her kid running out, but she was actually nice and thanked me for helping her look for her.
Later that day after I got off work, me and my bf went to a store and I sh*t you not, we saw the same woman that was in my store earlier freaking out going up and down the aisles searching for her kid. Watch your freaking kids in public people. Employees of retail stores are not baby sitters and you never know what sick person is waiting around the corner to snatch up your unsupervised child.
In general, I don’t believe in disciplining people’s children other than your own. And of course you can’t expect young children to be perfect, quiet little angels. That being said, sometimes while traveling you do encounter parents who are completely neglecting their children, and it’s fairly absurd to call other travelers rude for not wanting to put up with it.
For example, last year I was on an 11-hour flight. During the night both parents of what appeared to be a two-year-old fell asleep. At one point the boy’s diaper clearly needed to be changed. It smelled like hell, and he was crying miserably. After 20 minutes of this (how the parents slept through that crying, I’ll never know), I politely woke the mother up and suggested she might want to change his diaper. She went on a tear about people who can’t mind their own business and tell other people what to do with their kids. Really? I’m the bad guy in that scenario?
On a different flight, I was seated next to a boy and his mother, and the boy kept throwing his tennis ball at me. This wasn’t a toddler, either, or a developmentally delayed child. He just thought it was hilarious to use my arm to practice his serve against. The mother saw this and laughed weakly, saying, “kids, what can you do with them?” Clearly she couldn’t do anything with him, since she gave him everything he wanted through the flight, and he didn’t listen to her once. Anyway, I told the kid if he threw the ball at me one more time, I would take it for the rest of the flight. Well, he did, and I did. And of course the mother had no problem telling me indignantly what a horrible, mean person I was.
The bottom line is that when you travel, yes, kids are going to be antsy, but it is possible for you to control them. We traveled a lot as a family when my siblings and I were children, and our parents kept us on a very tight leash.
Is pointing out what other people’s children doing wrong bad etiquette? Perhaps. But if the parents aren’t considerate enough of other travelers to supervise their children, why should travelers have to be uber-polite and put up with it?
You know as a parent I would say it is rude pointing out other childrens bad etiquette, but the way some people don’t even bother to parent or try to control their children makes me feel like it’s ok. They say it takes a village to raise a child and if you aren’t minding your own child then maybe somebody else saying something is a good thing. How else is the child going to learn some damn manners?
With anyone else I’d be wary of a stranger saying something to someone’s kids, but with this family’s sense of entitlement, I’d be willing to be it was well deserved.
For as pretty as Kim once was, pre-surgery…I don’t think Kourtney is a very attractive girl.
What a contrast between her and Kim. Kourtney is constantly photographed out and about with her kids, and really seems like much more of a hands on mom than her sister. Not saying she doesn’t have help, but the photos look much more genuine. They’re actually being taken when she’s doing things with them and they’re not being posed for some photo op. Kim on the other hand is another story. She posted a photo of herself with Nori this week, with Kim centered perfectly in the photo and all you see of the baby is the top of her head. Because mommy has to be front and center.
Cover your mouth isn’t something I would say to a kid if I wanted them to be quiet. I wonder if it was a cough or sneeze in which case I might say politely “Oh cover your mouth!” With a smile though. Even though Kourtney is the most normal of the bunch doesn’t mean she isn’t as spoiled and selfish as the rest of them. I tend to give zero leeway to any Kardashian.
Agreed. You tell a child to cover their mouth when they sneeze or cough. And a well meaning stranger kindly reinforcing good habits onto a small child is in no way rude to me, if it was done in a gentle way. It takes a village. Your kids can take instruction and advice from strangers, and can learn from it. If you jump to their defense at every turn, they’re likely to grow up feeling like they can sneeze in a strangers face.
I was shushed as a kid and told to cover my mouth. I didn’t die. I learned to behave. The herd is going to socialize your child if you don’t.
But who will socialize the herd? I have never taken my 2 and 5 year old on a plane. We only go to kid friendly places. I have dealt with adults who came to Chuck e Chesse without kids and whined that the kids where loud or that they couldn’t get a turn at a game. I frequently take my children to the children’s museum and encounter similar adults there. The adults want to take pictures in from of the giant dinosaur and get so mad that kids are popping out from the little tunnels underneath.
Are you serious? There are people at Chuck E Cheese without children? That is so creepy I don’t even know where to start. I thought it was just a Zach Galifinakis joke. The children’s museum is a little less alarming, but wow. I would be super creeped out as a parent if I encountered lone adults at a place like that.
Frankly, I don’t think that a child’s conduct (or an adult’s for that matter) depends on where they are. Being at Chuck E. Cheese or the children’s museum isn’t license for for a kid’s free-for-all either.
Give me a break. Of course it was because the child was sneezing or coughing. No one says “cover you mouth” to a child if they want to them to be quiet. They would say “be quiet” if they were being nice or “shut up” if they wern’t being nice. My question is: what were they doing on a commercial flight with peasants? I’ve only flown with my daughter once when she was three and I made sure she was going to be fully entertained for the full six hours. I had snacks,coloring books, laptop with movies, etc. ready to go as not to upset neighboring passengers. But they are thinking about other people.
Plus, planes are a hotbed for germs…. so, duh!!! Everyone needs to cover their mouths when coughing and sneezing. Even your precious children KK.
Not a comment on the airplane story, but a comment on why I actually like Kourtney.
She’s always pictured with her kids and she is NEVER posing or making it about her. I like seeing her in mom mode with no makeup. She’s a good mom…no doubt in my mind.
Yes, the kids should learn to cover their mouths (am assuming that they were coughing and sneezing). Personally, I would have asked nicely, esp. since they’re quite young and likely have no idea. I can see why KK was annoyed, though – I’m assuming the stranger snapped at the kids and the kids were relatively well behaved. And there are some weirdly germophoble people out there.
hello this is a Kardashian we’re talking about none of them have manners morals or common sense if Mason was coughing sneezing or acting up that other passenger had every right to put him in his place and if KOURT can’t handle that they should fly private not commercial. most stars eventually have a pilots license anyway though most often it’s for a smaller single/double engine plane like a beach craft Saratoga or something similar. Paul Newman for example had a small craft pilots license for at least over 30 years so he and Joanne didn’t have to fly commercial for movie shoots premieres award shows festivals and his racing or even their daughter Claire’s equestrian competitions that weren’t in Connecticut or New York. though the planes his race cars and other personal items were auctioned off for Charity shortly after he passed away in September 2008 as it stipulated that in his will and his many awards including New York City Film Critics best director Rachel, Rachel were given to the Newman’s Own Foundation something which Joanne will probably also do when she dies so their daughters don’t fight over them hopefully that time doesn’t come too soon
Since giving birth to her daughter Kourtney seems less plastic and jacked, isn’t it? Anyway I don’t think it was about germs, otherwise it wouldn’t have been so ‘scandalous’. lol
We as a society teach children not to talk to strangers. We therefore as a society should also be instructing adults not to make demands of children they don’t know. A very young child can’t necessarily distinguish reasonable obedience to a stranger from unreasonable obedience to a stranger. IMO, strangers have no place disciplining other people’s children in the absence of a real risk to someone and/or an inability to communicate with the parents. In such a situation, the stranger should politely ask the parents to intervene, giving the benefit of the doubt about the parent’s awareness of the problem. If a very young child is taught to obey a stranger about keeping quiet or covering his/her mouth, the same child might think he or she should obey a stranger who says, “get in my car.” My children are taught to look to me for guidance if a stranger talks to them. People have, on occasion, asked me to tell my kids to do or not do something, and if it’s a reasonable request, I comply, apologizing if necessary for whatever rudeness may have occurred. If it’s an unreasonable request, which has happened, I politely tell the adult that we don’t have that rule, or something like that. Everything should go through the parents/caregiver.
I respectfully disagree. If a child is unreasonably disruptive and the parents are not addressing it and the child is intruding on another person’s space unchecked, the other person has every right to– kindly and gently (the first time)– explain to the child that that behaviour is unwanted and inappropriate. And if the inattentive parent comes at me, I then politely explain that if they’d taught and disciplined their child appropriately in the first place, my admonition would not have been necessary.
“Not everyone is as enamored of your brat as you are,” is usually how those escalating encounters conclude in my world. On a plane, the stewardess is called and instructed to address the situation by reseating one of us.
The cat she is holding is a Savannah, a cross breed between domestic and African wild Cerval cats. They require lots of attention, space and knowledge to keep as a pet. Not recommended for someone with little kids in my opinion
I was wondering if that was a savannah cat! And yes, it’s not an “easy” pet to have, so I wonder why on earth she would get such a pet. I as a cat lover wouldn’t even consider getting such a high maintenance cat.
Yeah, I was going to say that is a pet that should not exist.
40/60 here. One, you don’t tell anyone let alone someone else’s kid to cover their mouths. If you feel compelled to say anything to a child it should be either ask them if they’re okay and maybe remind them to cough into their elbow or ask them if they’re okay then offer them a tissue!!!
However KK overreacted to the situation. Yeah someone was rude to your kid, however you and your kid were on a plane and some might see sneezing and coughing openly as pretty gross esp in flu season etc etc.
On a flight you need to keep the children occupied. My daughter and son-in-law and myself took their children 15 mos and 3 yrs old on a plane to Disney World. We made sure they were occupied the entire time. If you take children on planes, as a parent, you need to pay attention to them and not bury your head in a book, on your phone, etc. I am taking my grandchildren, when they turn 8, to Disney World. I always make sure they have something to do. If nothing else, they are told to bring their homework on the plane (we go in Sept when it is the cheapest to go) and we work on that. Also, we really don’t know what went on. All we have is Khourtney’s rant on twitter. As someone above posted, I don’t understand why she had to take to twitter. Why not talk to the person who corrected her child.
I really don’t know how people can let their children run wild. It would drive me bonkers. Anytime I take my daughter out and she acts, believe she cuts that shit out quick because she knows I don’t play around. I’m just glad that she hates having to sit down or time out would never work. 🙂
She doesn’t go into detail so its hard to have an opinion. It’s as plausible that she let her kids do something irritating as it is that someone was antsy about sharing a flight with young kids and acted in appropriately.
I’ve travelled with a toddler and people are definitely more edgy towards you when you walk on a plane with a small kid. It’s so hard to keep a child happy in such a closed environment for a few hours.
This is just an OT story, I thought it was something nice—–
When I was eight years old, my family and I moved from Guam to the US, and we flew here. We were all split up, so I ended up sitting next to this business man (he looked like he was in his thirties–actually kinda hot if I remember right), and my older sister and twin were in a row behind us.
I remember feeling really nervous and weird about it–sitting next to some guy I didn’t know, by myself. So I started passing a ‘note’ (like one of those erasable, plastic, kid’s note thingy) back and forth to my sister, and we were writing mean things to each other.
Anyway–the guy was so nice. Like he asked me what I was doing, and when I told him, he said I should write nice things to my sister,and basically entertained me for the entire flight……
Nice plane story for me:
On a flight overseas to Europe, my mom got me a coloring book (I was majorly into coloring when I was about 4 or 5). I sat next to an older lady that I didn’t know (my mother was sitting in the row behind me) and the lady let me show her all of the pictures I finished coloring and acted like it was the best thing she ever saw. It made the flight go by quickly and made me a very happy kid.
That’s nice–that reminds me of my sister and her son. When my nephew was about two years old, he and my sister moved down to TN, and took a flight down. Later, my sister called us and said he had fun the entire day, because they were sitting in front of these two little old ladies, who kept cooing at him and giving him candy THE ENTIRE FLIGHT. She said he was grinning the entire time.
Yeah, other than I’m female, that was me a few years ago on a flight back from Hawaii. Had a child next to me, separated from her parents, and entertained her the whole flight. Didn’t even get a thank you when we deplaned.
That, my friends, is parenting today.
bluhare, in situations like that, I always wonder – why doesn’t one of the parents give up their seat to sit next to their child?
How old was the kid?
Weren’t they worried that there child could be sitting next to a sexual predator?
I was on a plane last year with my children who are now almost tweens. There were these two children who were about 4 and 6 who were running wild up and down the aisles from their seats in the back- the parents had headphones on and didn’t even look up at them. I know that 2 flight attendants said something to them that they ignored.
At one point the little girl almost caused an elderly woman who was trying to get to the bathroom to fall in the aisle. Still nothing from the parents.
Finally, my younger one couldn’t take it anymore and before I could stop her, she stepped in front of the running kids and yelled at them to sit down, shut up and stop acting like spoiled brats. The entire coach section applauded my girl.
And yes, they didn’t move for the rest of the flight and yes, the parents still did nothing.
They did not get off the plane until everyone else did, I’d like to think it was from being embarassed, but it was probably laziness.
I’ve seen kids banging incessantly on the glass at a zoo, with the parents two feet away, just ignoring the whole thing and yes, I have told them to stop, because they’re scaring the animals. If the parents aren’t going to ensure that their child acts appropriately in a public place, I have no problem doing it.
I would draw the line at physical contact, but I see nothing wrong with telling a kid who’s sneezing all over you repeatedly (as I’m kind of imagining happened in this situation) to cover his mouth.
Sorry, parents. DO BETTER. Then a single woman doesn’t have to parent your kid.
Kourtney seems pretty normal compared to Kim. She walks around without makeup on and looks like a normal person etc. I could understand both sides, as someone without kids I get annoyed when I go on a plane and the kids are loud the whole flight. But I would never tell the kids to cover their mouths lol.
Maybe her kids are special needs and not able to follow directions. In that case, saying something is not appropriate. I believe people are generally adverse to butting in. Maybe this was a parent who didn’t want their own children becoming sick? Lots of unknowns, but agree the tweet was sent from a mom who was ashamed to be called out for being a bad mom and thought she could get support from her “fans”..
But that Kardashian spittle and spit …they should’ve been honored to receive it , right?! They probably could’ve caught some in a jar and shown it on Extra!! Moms, do your best pls to keep your kids from germing everyone around.. come to think of it, gron-ups, please do us the same service…adults can be even nastier. Themselves when it comes to coughing, etc…no excuse for them in particular.
I think moms are wild these days. I’ve argued with a friends because when she came to get her lil snowflake I made her and my daughter clean up their mess. I was told making two six year old girls clean up the toys they were playing with was being to strict. It takes a village not to have a Brat and we all should remember that.
WHAT???
it builds character and values, some moms now days–are coocoo for cocoa puffs. cleaning up after yourself is strict??? LOL!
You did the right thing. I make my niece clean up after playing. This is how they will learn !
You know what? People who were never forced to clean as children are the WORST roommates as adults. They’re the worst at a lot of things.
Although I might want to, I don’t think I’d have the nerve to chastise or instruct someone else’s kid if their parent is right there and not saying anything . But I do think it’s more revealing about Kourtney that someone felt they had to say something to her children even though she was there.
I have four kids and I make lots of mistakes as a parent but I have always believed firmly that my children should never disrupt another persons experience in public. I fly all the time with them- usually alone- and have through the various stages. The only really tough time is from infant to two because they can be really hard to control. After that, you can control them. Period. Your kid has no right to pest another person on a plane, resteraunt, movie or any other public place. Three of my kids are wild, active boys yet I have never once had any stranger reprimand my child in this situation bc we so firmly believe it is our job to stop our kids from inconveniencing others in public places. In fact, most of the time we get the opposite kinds of comments. It can be done. Period. Basic human courtesy. Other people did not have your children and don’t want to be bothered by them.
Very well said, “mom”
awww, you’re raising lil respectful people, love it. trust me, it carries over into adulthood
She’s just raising them to be disrespectful entitled little brats like the rest of them. I would have told her kid to cover his mouth if he was caughing at me. I would have looked at her and said “do you mind?!” if it was them just being loud. She didn’t have the balls to say crap to the passenger but was tough enough to tweet about HER offense to it? Puh-lease!
I was stood in line at the store the other day . A little boy no more than 3 yrs old,turned a round to who I presume was his father & said ” shut up you d**k”. I was absolutely shocked & expected the parents to reprimand the child. The parents & people who were with them just burst out laughing. I didn’t say anything, just shook my head & glared at the parents.
On flights I used to be the passenger that plays w/the kid since mom is not paying attention/didn’t bring toys or snacks.
I stopped because I would end up kinda “babysitting them” on the flight.
Mom would say “awwww she wants to eat by you” or “she misses you, she keeps looking for you”
I cut out the playing peek a boo cause it can escalate to mommy’s helper real quick with some.
if a total stranger feels the need to step in and parent your children… my god, you must be an awful parent. i mean, look… i’m not a fan of young children + air travel but i wouldn’t step in unless a child was going totally nuts, and i have a feeling the boy was pushing everyones buttons on that flight. it must have been bad. like, really really bad.
Sounds right to me. The only time *anyone*– stranger or family– tells a child to cover its mouth is when s/he is sneezing, coughing or yawning with a mouthful of food. Which is disgusting.
If the parents are of such incredibly poor breeding that they cannot teach very basic manners to their children– particularly in such tight quarters– they leave them open to have other people/better parents correct them.
Airplanes are petrie dishes for cooties, I don’t pay thousands of dollars to travel in the comfort and peace of business or first class to have some spoiled little sh*t with no boundaries decide s/he’s at his/her own house or Chuck E. Cheese’s.
I remember being told at age two to cover my mouth when I sneezed, coughed or yawned. If KK would rather raise entitled little animals (like her mother did) than polite members of society, she gets what she gets.
Sounds like she was more embarrassed for being called out as a bad mother than insulted on behalf of her children.
Kourtney, Khloe, Kim, Kris and Kanye…COVER YOUR MOUTHS!!!
I’ve found the best way to avoid other people trying to correct your kids is to be proactive and do it yourself.
But I seem to have the opposite problem. People want to buy my kids stuff even after we have told them no. My daughter wanted a ball at the store and we told her no. A customer in the line bought it for her. It was very sweet of him, but it undermined us.
I did meet one guy that got it. She wanted candy and he said that he would buy it for her but I had said no.
Generally, I disagree with people butting in on how other people raise their children. You may see a badly raised/misbehaving child, chances are the child and or mother are just having a really bad day.
I recently flew home and was sitting next to a Mom with a baby and little boy, 3-ish I guess. She had games for him, colouring books, movies on the ipad etc… just about everything. The boy did not want to behave or want to be distracted. About half an hour in he started hitting me. Mom told him to stop. He wouldn’t. She changed seats. Boy started kicking the seat in front of him. Mom told him to stop. Told him she would have to punish him etc. (she couldn’t exactly threaten to take away his toys when they were meant to occupy him.) The baby was teething. The Mom looked like she wanted to disappear and ended up bribing her son with sweets just to make him shut up ( it worked… for about 15 minutes) It was a miserable experience for everyone involved. THe worst thing about it, was the looks and the comments the poor Mom got though. ABout how she can’t control her child, what kind of mother she is etc, all the judgemental crap you can imagine. Children are not minature adults, they do not always know how to behave and despite their parents best efforts may be annoying little dicks (am I allowed to say that about children), especially in close quarters for a prolonged time. Doesn’t make their parents bad, or inapt.
Other story. Went out with my aunt and my 2 year old cousin to the supermarket. Cousin wanted toy car. His Mom said know. He took it and put it in the cart. Mom told him no and put it back. he threw a temper tantrum, whole deal with throwing himself on the floor. Mom moved the cart out of the way and then we went on ignoring him. And yes, we did check our emails and stuff during that time. Took him 10 minutes to realize that Mom (or me) weren’t going to cave. My aunt was asked twice what the hell she was doing and what kind of mother she is, what kind of nuissance kids are. Was it ideal to have my cousin screaming, no. But, if go out with your children, sooner or later they will behave innapproprietely and you will have to do something you’d rather not, like let your child scream in the middle of the supermarket
It’s not that children must be perfect all the time. It’s that their parents should engaged with them and their behaviors. There’s lots of reasons they can act up, maybe they missed their naps or not feeling well, etc. The problem is when a kid is acting up and the parent acts oblivious or worse, entitled.
When a kid is hitting people in public there are other issues behind the scenes. Discipline is about so much more that threats or bribes. And, respectfully, a kid screaming on the floor for 10 minute in a public place probably needs to go home.
Maybe Kourte knew about this guy: http://newsone.com/2733094/joe-rickey-hundley-trial/ and she wasn’t taking any chances of strangers telling her kids what to do.
Totally off topic but Kourtney looks like the only K sister to not have work done on her. At least on her face/ And she is by far the most attractive one.
If it was just a case of coughing or sneezing then what is the big deal? That’s not “disciplining someone else’s kid,” and no one even knows how the passenger said it. Maybe it was said nicely and she’s just defensive?
And to people who say she’s always photographed w/her kids and not attention whoring…she’s most unlikely the one notifying paps of where she’ll be, just like the other kartrashcans.
While I think Kourtney may be the most naturally pretty one of the 3- she looks busted without good lighting and make up
Geez
Why would anyone over 30 where a backwards hat? It is a horrible trend for any woman let alone someone in their mid 30s. I just don’t understand it.
Kids that age grab every accessory a mom would like to wear with dignity, but can’t, be it earrings, a necklace, or especially a cap. At least this Kardashian is actually seen with her kids, because I believe she is raising them? I’m sure the child had been grabbing her hat, please cut her some slack. And regarding the coughing, yes, a passenger should have said something to the parent, not the child. My son could barely get dressed at that age, let alone follow cultural protocols. It’s hard enough to have two sick children, why not ask the mom if you can be of help? I was on a plane once and my three year old was uncomfortable and crying, whilst most passengers were giving me dirty looks; one grandma offered him a stick of gum, and he was happy and I was relieved to receive kindness instead of people’s rude behavior compounding my panic.
Well, I wouldn’t tell anyone else’s child anything UNLESS its obvious that the parent isn’t going to say anything and knows damn well the kid is annoying everyone else. I wouldn’t say it in mean way at all or anything but why should I suffer? lol. I understand folks are sensitive to someone saying something to their children but if they are in the F everyone else state of mind then they should meet that state of mind equally matched in opposition. That is their own damn fault then!
She’s right. You don’t correct someone else’s child unless to remove them directly from harms way. I’d be equally as annoyed. Airplane travel with kids is really hard – for both mom and kids – something I didn’t appreciate before becoming a mom (to a special needs child nonetheless). I wish I had been more tolerant before now that I know how it feels to travel with ‘that child’.
Tell my children anything and I will give you a verbal lashing. They are MY children, they came out of MY vagina. End of story.