Here are some photos of Prince Harry going into Westminster Abbey yesterday. Harry was representing his granny, the Queen, at Nelson Mandela’s London memorial service. Desmond Tutu was there! I would love to meet Desmond Tutu – he seems like such a lovely man. David Cameron was there too, as were a hodge-podge of British dignitaries, politicians, humanitarians and celebrities. Idris Elba was there too – now that’s a party! Harry, Desmond Tutu and Idris Elba. Somebody’s going to get pregnant.
Anyway, as with everything having to do with Harry these days, it all comes back to Cressida Bonas. There was never this kind of concerted gossip about his relationship with Chelsy Davy, but to be fair to everyone involved, Chelsy did seem to make it clear over and over again that she never wanted to marry Harry. Cressida is a different bird altogether. I feel – and maybe I’m wrong – that Cressida does want the title and the Kensington Palace apartment and the ginger prince. Cressida is just playing her hand really well, and she’s giving the impression of not wanting it too much. That was a mistake Kate made in those early years of dating William – too over-eager. Cressida has learned the lesson well:
Cressida now spends most week nights at Harry’s swish one-bedroom flat inside Kensington Palace. And the couple set tongues wagging after she was given her own pass to the exclusive complex. The 25-year-old student got the all-clear from royal security guards who are now on first-name terms with her. Friends say the pair have even talked about getting their own place away from the historic palace so they can feel like a normal couple.
A source said: “Cressida can often be seen with her overnight bag at Kensington Palace and spends a lot of week nights there. Now she is a more regular fixture in Harry’s life, security for her has been relaxed somewhat. She is very cool about the whole thing – another reason why Harry is mad about her – but it wouldn’t surprise anyone if they found a place together very soon. Cressida isn’t pushy though. She accepts being in a relationship with Harry is far from simple.”
At first Cressida could only get inside the palace if she was alongside Harry. Now the party-loving prince, 29, has had a word with staff to get his girlfriend security clearance so she can come and go as she pleases. But Cressida is wary of making the palace her full-time home and has floated the idea of her and Harry moving elsewhere.
The source added: “She has told family members she’s serious about him. The next step is living together but there are more hurdles than you’d imagine for that to happen.”
Harry’s flat allows him to be close to brother William who recently moved to a renovated apartment at Kensington Palace with wife Kate and baby son George. The four-storey, 20-room Apartment 1A was once home to Princess Margaret but was left vacant following her death in 2002. Kate redesigned it and was often seen shopping for antiques and homeware on the nearby King’s Road before the family moved in.
Here’s what I like: I like that Cressida’s family hasn’t bought her a big, prince-baity apartment so that Cressy and Harry can play house. That’s what the Middleton family did – they bought an apartment for Kate with the express purpose of making it into William’s secondary pad. I like that Cressida isn’t doing that because it makes it more about a journey that she and Harry are figuring out along the way. They’re progressing more like a normal couple, trying to figure out their living arrangements and figuring out how to give each other space. And she’s smart to not be “pushy” about everything. The fact that she’s coming across as reticent about royal life is what Harry finds so appealing. Well played, Cressy.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Where have I been? The middletons bought Kate an apartment so she could be close to William?
They bought a flat in Chelsea for her to live in so she could be near William when she was needed, and go partying/shop when she was not. Pips and James live there now.
That’s really weird. I could never imagine doing that for my kids (not that I could ever afford to)
I think she’s just right. No wonder Kate is so jealous!
I fully admit to being a lazy internet stalker but why do I never see them in pictures together? Is it because there are none or is it that I just don’t look? Any who, while I would still hit it his hair looks a bit like a Chia Pet on fire.
There really aren’t too many pictures of them together. The ones that do surface always have the two of them looking very glum. When he was pictured with Chelsy, you could see and feel the attraction between them. Not so with this one. I’m still not sure I’m buying the whole “mad about” story they (who?) are trying to sell.
+1 Not on the Cressida bandwagon either.
I agree – wtf is going on with his hair? Is it highly humid in Britain right now? I’ve never seen it so Brillo-paddy.
Cress is playing a low-key long game and that’s why you don’t see her around much.
Kaiser, I think the Allthruster Bonas clan is just as conniving as the Middletons, they are just more savvy. They’ve thrown Cressy in Harry’s path in other ways rather than buying property.
This stuff is great. It’s the Boleyn-Seymour redux.
Watercressie’s Clan has the York Princesses on their team, that is something that the upstart Middletons couldn’t pay for with all of Uncle Gary’s money.
Harry’s hair is looking like it does because it’s raining, as can be seen in the first pic.
@Naneo – It’s not what you know, it’s who you know, as they say. I agree that’s one of the angles they are working.
I didn’t even see that wet pavement back there. At least they aren’t trucking through feet of snow, as we still are.
I can buy Cress is using PR to be not called or seen as Waity Katie 2 but I don’t think her family is throwing her in Harry’s path. She has been York princesses friends and hung out with his friends years before anything happened between them. I have seen photos of her with Yorks and other friends of him back when he was dating Chelsy. Also her Isabella father is a billionaire aristo, he owns chunks of Birmingham, so I don’t think he is using his daughters to land rich billionaire when himself is 1. But I do think she is trying to play media but that’s all her doing and not her family’s ambition IMO.
Fact buffet from the Mirror:
“Cressida, or Cressy as she is known to close family and friends, was born on February 18 1989 to Jeffrey Bonas and Lady Mary-Gaye Curzon.
“Mary-Gaye, daughter of the late Earl Howe, and Jeffrey were married for six years but Mary-Gaye has had three other husbands and four other children.
“Cressida is descended from King Charles II. [My Edit: OH OH!! 🙂 Buckle up!]
“Her sister Pandora is the eldest of the bunch of siblings, at 40-years-old. She is Cressida’s half-sister from her mother’s first marriage to the late Esmond Cooper-Key.
“Next are artist Georgina, Isabella, and Jacobi, three half-siblings from Mary-Gaye’s second marriage to businessman John Anstruther-Gough-Calthorpe.
“Georgina is an artist, Isabella, also known as Bella, is an actress and Jacobi is one of Britain’s most eligible bachelors.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/who-cressida-bonas-profile-prince-2657028#ixzz2v0ytCqTU
Chia pet on fire! LOL!!!
Idris Elba looked hotter than all get out. Yum.
Who cares about Cressy gossip wise she is dull so far. The one I want to hear about is her mother, Mary Gaye Curzon and her four husbands and five children and maybe lots of lovers in between. She seems like pure gossip heaven– anyone else know anything?
“The next step is living together…”
Why? I am not judging AT ALL, and of course have lots of friends who have lived together before they were married, and my husband and I spent most all of our time together before we became engaged, but I don’t get it as some sort of proof that you’re going to be happily married or a “step” towards that. To me it seems that you aren’t ready to commit yet, so why live together with all the commitment that entails without the commitment? Do you think you might discover something odious about the person that you can’t tell unless you live under the same roof? I don’t think there is anything wrong with it, I just don’t see it as a necessary step, or proof of anything, and I wouldn’t uproot my life for a man who wasn’t sure enough of his feelings for me to go all the way.
Nah, you don’t “have” to live together. Plenty of people still don’t. It’s not a required step.
It does seem in Hollywood that the progression is Meet, Get Engaged, Have Baby, Talk About Getting Married and Sometimes Do it – or just break up.
That’s my brother and his pregnant fiancee! And they live together! 🙂
@Suze – You missed a step. It is: meet, get pregnant, announce engagement, within two weeks or less of that announce pregnancy as though engagement came first, have baby, then either get married and/or breakup eventually. As an added bonus huge custody and alimony/child support fight ensues. Rinse and repeat with next partner.
@TG – brilliant! I missed the nuance where the pregnancy actually triggers the “engagement”. I put engagement in quotes because most of them aren’t really engagements in the traditional sense.
@Suze – You are so right about the “engagement” part being phony for most of them anyway. I mean ScarJo all but said the same thing in that gushing quote about her being happy to be engaged and she isn’t in a rush to get married, etc. she just wants to be engaged. If they don’t want to get married fine but why play that stupid game. Just announce the pregnancy and be done with it. I mean if they stay together everyone will know and they can introduce each other as “my partner” or whatever but this pretend engagement stuff is stupid. It isn’t the 1800’s anymore.
CB is so prudish lately. Is it an older crowd all of the sudden?
Well said, GoodNamesAllTaken.
My partner and I live together because we live in an expensive city. Neither of us would ever not want to live in a city, and, short of moving to Bangkok, we’re pretty much into the idea of cohabitating. It’s nice, it works for us, and we love each other. I think for each couple/group, it’s whatever works. I say group because I have queer friends who are poly and live in collectives which makes living in the city even cheaper : )
Right. I absolutely think whatever works for you is great. I just thought it was silly that the article phrased it as though living together is a necessary step before you get married, that’s all.
Meh. Isn’t The Daily Star considered worse than the Sun, and that’s saying something? I tend to kind of believe the Daily Fail (and only on Royal matters) simply because it’s known that they have sources with the Royals…but not this. I just don’t see them “living” together before they get married—she’s already accepted by the other royals. My guess is an engagement. Also, give me a million Chelsys of Wills, Kate, and Cressida. Chelsy may like to live hard, but she had two or three degrees and is a successful lawyer. She seems to have done more work in her life than Wills and Kate combined.
Agreed. I was reading Kaiser’s take on it and went back to see who it’s from and this is not from a reputable source.
The Daily Star and The Sun are useful birdcage liners and cat box liners. Perhaps in wrapping your glass or breakables when moving — but NOT for facts. Read for fun only.
You mean “well played, Cressie’s PR.”
Right?? I bet you anything she wants that tiara just as bad as kate.
Its just that she has had the benifit of learning from Waity’s many mistake.
+ 1. This is just what I see too. Cressida is just as eager to become a princess as Kate was, her background just works for her. She doesn’t need to be as obvious as Kate was.
She does! She does! I am glad others recognize a PR scam when they read it.
Her family is not as wealthy as some believe and she is not a blood relative to ACG family’s money. She needs this marriage to Harry to support her. Her family will benefit just as much as Meddletons only in a more subtle PR way. Watercress has many friends and family member who work in the PR field so she has them plus the one she hired. Wonder who is paying for that? Too much work to gloss over a person is rather telling. She is playing Harry quite well- thanks to having Waity’s handbook to guide her do and don’t to land a prince.
Funny how this article fails to mention her posing and then posting a photo on her social media appearing as if she has an oral fixation for an elephant tusk. Despicable and disgraceful! Not to mention no response or reaction from Harry since he claims to want to protect these animals. Show me your friends and I will show you who are. Pretty much says it all and shows his true character.
Whoa! Did not know this. Well played, indeed.
Where is the tusk-licking pics? If this is true what an outrage.
Spot on, fairygodmother. That photo is recent and posted after all of the flack the princes received in the press for their hunting trip. You can see the photo here:
https://twitter.com/@RoyalHypocrite.
Yes and don’t you just love how they have made a critical change in the Waity Playbook? Cressy is now a professional “student” since Waity’s supposed “work” has been criticized and basically proven false. I bet Cressy only has one credit a semester it something like that. These Aristo’s are bigger gold-diggers than the Middleton’s because they think it is their due to marry royals, aristocrats or other super wealthy people. They just get away with it because the general public seems to agree.
Well at this point after all the news about these two- I say let them stick to their own kind! Who would want to live a life with such hypocrisy?
I just get fed up with all this madly in love crap from someone who cheated in Vegas, the cat and mouse games with media, and things like the hunting and tusk licking image now stuck in my head. No media wrote about it so it only demonstrates how protected she is via PR.
We only have one life to live. It is not worth wasting time playing stupid little games. Have lost any hope or respect I had for him and she only makes him look that much more foolish.
All right – I’m cynical about old Watercress but she did graduate from university in a timely fashion – as did brunette duchess Kate. So you can’t really label either of these women as dilettante students. And Watercress did finish her post university degree as well.
I think it’s expected that women of that social class have degrees these days.
Now the working? They are both suspect, imo. But let’s face it, neither blonde duchess or brunette duchess really have to hustle up a career.
This one is crafty…….well played lady.
Agree. You have to watch those quiet ones.
Or maybe just secretive. I’m still giving her the benefit of doubt. I won’t blindly judge. I need reasons.
Hey, FLORC, did you notice CB called John Travolta’s rug a wiglet yesterday? I almost called out the Wiglet Wagon!
I did! I was giggling over it for the rest of the day. Travolta is on wiglet watch for life!
This is exactly what I said a few days ago. Men like the chase. Harry is used to women throwing themselves at him. The fact that Cressy is not is part of her appeal.
True! Having come of age in the 70’s I knew nothing of this idea. Now I’m dating a man who
I think has always had women become “smitten” with him too soon, (his word ,) but I have just sat back & let him set the pace. It’s been a learning experience. I never call him, & don’t text much either. I’ve also tried to step away several times after disagreements, (not to be manipulative — I was truly thinking it couldn’t go forward.) but he keeps on coming back.
It’s now been over a year, & we’re now about to go on a tropical vacation together. It’s made it fun, & it’s very sexy, too! After becoming a widow & having another move-in-together relationship crash, I’m not willing to just throw my entire lot in with someone again. 🙂
Good for you, and I hope you have a great vacation.
It sounds like you’ve had a rough time, taking is slow is very wise. I hope you have a wonderful romantic vacation. There is nothing that turns anyone… not just guys… off more than desperation or clinging. I work with someone who lost her husband 3 or 4 years ago, she’s decided she’d like to be in another relationship. However she comes across as insanely desperate. She’s so bad that any time she hears of someone in her age group that finds some romance she flips out and gets all hysterical. She’s quite nuts, when my brother comes to visit I have to keep him away from her.
Thanks, Bluhare & Tessy. I plan to! And Tessy…oh dear. Tell her to read Mimi Tanner online, & also a wonderful little book called Outrageous Openness, by Tosha Silver. Wonderful ideas & wisdom about letting life unfold for you, instead of trying to force anything!
Good for you 🙂 Make him value you, I say.
YUP!!!!! 🙂
Omg how many articles will there about how cool Cressida is? How Harry is the one chasing her and she’s just so free and so opposite of Kate? I’m so bored of this, give me actual gossip about these two please!
YES. This. That’s why he and Chelsy were so hot–she wasn’t just going to lie to bed. She didn’t want the title. She didn’t need to be cool or waity. She just was.
“And she’s smart to not be “pushy” about everything”.
As If… Well played Cressida PR team, well played…
ps: Chelsy was not too much in the news and never talking about sleeping arrangements… I guess she was not the one desperate to marry a Prince and pretending not to be, lol.
I miss Chelsy!
Chelsy was reported to be calling Harry so much and so needy when they dated, he had to sometimes put his phone on silent. I like Chelsy but she was kind of a bit unsuited for the life and during the Harry years, she was constantly fighting with him, she’s great now, but maybe Harry wants a less volatile life, with Chelsy to two were always breaking up or fighting maybe they were just too young.
Those theories were based on the phone hacking info. All there was was incoming text and calls from Chelsy. We aren’t given any details at all like maybe he asked her to call. The nature of the call. Text info.. and so on.
Nothing you’ve stated is true. Just a lot of false info and gossip.
No, that was 1 report. And everyone agreed that the alleged 60 times in one month was not “overly needy” – it amounts to about 1 phone call per day.
I don’t see the point in comparing Chelsy to Cressida. Chelsy did not want the job of Princess. Chelsy missed Africa, and her lifestyle there. That’s why she and Harry ultimately agreed they did not have a future together.
Its too soon to tell what kind of a woman Cressida is. I think she DOES want the job however, which already makes her more of a “Kate” than a “Chelsy.”
I don’t understand how can people say Chelsy didn’t want the job. She moved to another country to be with him, she dated him for almost 8 years, sure she knew if she keep on going to have a relationship with him, she’ll be a royal. IMO she did want the job and a relationship with him but when their relationship didn’t work, she moved on. Unlike Kate she was smart enough to have a back up, Also Chelsy played media too, I was just so bloody tired of her ‘friends’ always telling media that she felt royal life was not for her. If that was the case then what on earth she was doing with him for 8 freaking years. Just because she have a career doesn’t mean she didn’t want to be a royal or didn’t play media.
There you go being sensible, Angelic. I think I agree with you. Either that or Harry is a really good smooth talker.
Chelsy had no intention of marrying Harry, she was mapping out a good career and was not prepared to be anything other than NORMAL, she wasn’t interested in being a royal, shew told him often enough but he didn’t take the hint.
People say she didn’t want the job because she broke it off due to the fact that…she didn’t want the job (of being a royal). Pretty clear to me.
If she didn’t want the job then why change countries to be with him, keep on getting back together year after year with him? Does not seem very clear to me that she didn’t want the job because she kept on coming back to him. She dated him for 8 years, surely anyone who is smart can figure out they don’t want the job before wasting most part of their 20’s in a relationship with a man they never planed to have future in the first place, not to add dating this particular guy came with huge negative media publicity, privacy intrusion, having your dad called making money from a war criminal etc. I just don’t believe she went through all that sh*t and trouble all those years for a guy with whom she never wanted a future and yes the job that came with it.
Angelic, you’re (repeatedly) missing my point. As others have noted, we should concede that just because you’re dating a royal doesn’t mean you “want” the tiara. Maybe you’re “okay” with it. But after seeing all the hoopla with Will and Kate’s wessong, it seemed to shake her up and make her realize that, no, she couldn’t in fact handle that life. It’s called hanging your mind. Maybe she thought she could and realized otherwise. It’s really one-note and simplistic to say because you are dating a royal, you desire that life. Ugh.
I hope no one is keeping a tallie of how often i’ve missed someone’s point.
I recall reading that the wedding was a last ditch effort to get back together, as I don’t think they’d been seeing each other much prior to that. And that they’d had a chat after where Chelsy said she didn’t think she wanted it, Harry agreed with her, and she was a bit disappointed.
It’s hard to say goodbye to someone you’ve had a history with.
Agreed, bluhare! And FLORC, no need for snide comments. Angelic was repeating herself over and over again in response to me, so I pointed it out.
Thanks Anna. And, for what it’s worth, I don’t think FLORC was being snide. She was accused of missing the point just a bit ago and English isn’t her first language so sometimes things don’t translate perfectly.
I like that Harry is with a lady he wants to be with instead of having someone chasing him, setting upon him like Kate did with William. PW has hardly cracked a smile since the wedding.
Cressida is a artsy Aristocrat, with a degree from a prestigious University, this lady seems to have her own likes and good for her. IMO she has some similarities to Harry’s mom. Harry may be a party Prince, but he’s dedicated to his royal duties too and I believe unlike William, Harry will truly marry for love first and if he is with. Cressida it’s because he chooses to be with her.
Chelsy wanted the tiara too, but the problem is Chelsy thought the Monarchy should bend to her , but it just doesn’t work that way. Cressida is from the Aristocracy, she understands this.
Ha, I think it’s pretty clear Chelsy never wanted the tiara. Harry yes, royal life no.
If she wanted Harry she would still be there, as I said Chelsy although lovely, expected the Palace to change to meet her needs and that’s not the way Monarchy works. Period.
Nothing indicates she was expecting palace or royal protocol to change for her. She is (by all accounts) an intelligent young woman. I’m sure she knew this and merely found it hard to let go of her first love.
Anna,
So Chelsy never wanted a tiara but still agreed to date Harry for 8 years? Also I find it for such a intelligent, bright girl like her, it took her almost a decade to decide that she didn’t want a title. That’s what her PR line was, whenever they broke up the excuse she didn’t want a tiara was issued by her but then again just after few months saying she didn’t want royal life she get back together with him. Isn’t she just so bright!
Everybody keep on saying if Cress is dating Harry she obviously wants a title but on the same breath says Chelsy never wanted 1 even though she was the 1 who dated him for nearly a decade and moved to another country to be with him. It can possibly be both. If cress wants tiara for dating him then by same logic so did Chelsy, she was just smart enough to have a backup plan and not put all her eggs in 1 royal basket like Kate.
It’s possible to want the man and not the title that comes along with it, but still hold onto him because you don’t want to let him go. It’s clear she didn’t want it ultimately, because they broke up.
Wasn’t Chelsy already living in England when she started dating Harry? I thought she got her law degree from a University somewhere in England? Leeds? Manchester?
please, if I remember correctly, Chelsy moved to England while she was dating Harry. He didn’t meet her there. If I also remember correctly, she was a bit cheesed about it as she didn’t see much of him and thought that moving to England she would. And she was stuck up in Yorkshire being cold.
Ah, okay, thanks bluehare.
Maybe she moved there thinking it would be more serious than it ended up becoming once she was in the reality of royal life and what it meant for Harry and ultimately for her and their relationship?
@everyone,
I thought Chelsy and Harry met while she was in boarding school in England at Cheltenham Ladies College or, maybe, Stowe, I dont’ remember which. If I remember correctly, she was part of a group that would go to “Club H” which was actually just the party room at Highgrove, Prince Charles’ estate. They dated a long time and then it was when she was deciding on colleges that she made a clear move that she was continuing her relationship with Harry because she chose one in Leeds, England. It was, I think, at this time that Chelsy was pictured at Heathrow having returned from home only to be left standing and waiting because Harry was late picking her up. She even had to call him before he showed looking as if he had fallen out of bed.
I still think that despite disliking royal life/protocol, Chelsy would’ve married Harry except he simply gave her plenty of other reasons to hesitate. He didn’t see her frequently after she made the move to Leeds. I got the impression he expected her to travel and fit in with his friends, not so much the other way around. I also think that he flirted (and probably much more) when they were separated by distance. I think they genuinely loved one another but I think Harry was/is very much in the vein of Charles/William. He expects much and doesn’t particularly return the behavior. I do think he probably talks a wonderful game and means it when he says it.
At any rate, I like Harry and Chelsy, separately and when they were a couple. All of what I have written isn’t the gospel but it is a small bit of some of the things I remember from what was, by all accounts, a tempestuous and passionate relationship.
Bluhare is correct. Harry persuaded Chels to enroll at Leeds and promised her they would be together more. The poor girl did not get to spend that much time with him even after relocating in order to make it work. Any time she got fed up or there was a ‘Harry Gone Wild’ story in the tabs Chelsy’s friends or the York princesses would intervene and Harry would take Her on some exotic make up vacation. Being a smart girl, she eventually got tired of the cycle. Harry, who depends heavily on his charm, was thrown for a wicked loop when Chelsy threw in the towel. I think Cressy expects a ring, a tiara and a few babies from Harry and not much else. I think the ex dancer is smarter than we think. And Harry knows that the aristocracy don’t truly begin to cheat until they are safely married with a child or two. Cressy checks all the boxes for Harry expectations wise. But personally, she is not quite rough enough for his tastes. Oddly, this makes me think they will marry.
Just wanted to say that Chelsy has an undergraduate economics degree from SA [University of Cape town] and a postgraduate law degree from England [Leeds university]. She didn’t transition mid-stream from one country to another, and there are plenty of pap pics of Harry visiting her in SA.
and by pap pics, i mean as intrusive as through her balcony into her living room.
Actually bluhare is incorrect. They met as teenagers when Chelsy was at Stowe (high school). She then attended college in South Africa.
And yes, Angelic, she dated him for 8 years because she no doubt loved him deeply and tried to make it work, despite him being royal. It’s disingenuous and dumb to say someone automatically wanted a tiara because she dated a royal. It’s been made clear over and over again that ultimately she did NOT want that life.
Thanks for the correction. I had always thought she was still living in SA when they met.
We don’t know that she did not want that life. We know that she did not want it more than she valued her own self-respect. That is not the same conclusion. I love the park. I will not go to the park if it is raining. Doesn’t nean I don’t like parks if I don’t like rain. Chelsy was probably fibe with royal life – 8 years is enough time to see what it is really like. She walked away from a charming, but imnature prince who loved her but was not ready to settle down and behave. And that’s fine because they were both young. But I hate when history and the whole Chels/Harry narrative is rewritten.
Ummm I’m pretty sure her family DID buy her an apartment, but as it was before they started dating, it’s not a “prince crash pad.” Still, she lives off of family money and she and Kate are practically the same.
But we don’t know what Cressida looks like without clothes and she has used her degree.
It’s very easily forgotten how hard it is to be a dancer. It’s not something to dismiss.
Actually she hang used her degree – she’s working for her father’s company as a part-time tutor (not in dancing). Which is fine, but we shouldn’t make the mistake of saying she’s on the same level as Chelsy or nothing like Kate. Not sure what the clothes thing had to do with it.
FLORC
No need to pap shame Kate about those nude vacation shots. They were taken without her knowledge and published without her permission. Cressida would be just as blameless under the same circumstances. Besides, even nude pics of Cressy would be boring.
Dame Snarkweek
The shame was so subtle i’m just noticing it now. I blame my coffee free lifestyle of 2 weeks now for not picking up on it.
And I don’t buy she didn’t know. I some cases it was unintentional. In others she didn’t care. In all she repeatedly went without precautions. It’s the same if I wore a pair of jeans that were a size too big without a belt. I leave the house concealed, but should I bend down or simple walk the world will see.
And early in the following of Kate weren’t there photos of Pippa, Carole, and Kate all sunbathing topless? Pretty sure those were approved and they went with some proKate and William as bf/gf stories. I’d like to refer to LAK, LadySlippers, Bluhare, Sachi, Etc… though to get it right. And for the record.. Nothing wrong with sunbathing topless. I have no issue and am not intending to shame anyone over that. Kate didn’t seem to either. I think it was William huffing and puffing. Go naked s much as you like. Just don’t kick up dust when you’re always in someone’s lense and are caught.
i’d like to add here that the middletons like to sunbathe topless no matter who is around. There are pap pics of them doing so on several occasions though the pics of them topless infront of William [that boat in white bikinis] is the one many remember. The photos in France were bound to happen sooner or later.
Not dismissing the dancer thing FLORC, but its a pursuit of physicality. Similarly, Kate apparently worked out at the gym all the time. (Based on those leaked voicemails from William). Chelsy worked out, AND found time to read law. I think Kate and Cressida are cut from the same cloth when it comes to their hobbies: shopping and parties. Just like any socialites. Neither seem like the bookish sort.
Taking Kate and Watercress completely out of the picture for a minute, there is a huge difference between studying dance and going to the gym all the time.
I agree that blonde duchess and brunette duchess are more similar than different, though.
Juliette/Suze
I agree to a certain extent they are very similar. I’m just continuing to give Cressida the same bit of doubt I did Kate until I was proven wrong without a shadow of doubt. Even if i’m wrong in the end. I will think the best of people until proven wrong.
And Juliette
Kate worked out at the gym so yea, there was some similar qualities in terms of endurance, but what i’m thinking more between Kate’s photography and Cressida’s dancing to suit their degrees.
Kate did photography, put her favorite pieces up, was torn apart, and quit.
Cressida pursued dancing for much longer and training on top of auditions and being ripped apart. And she still pursued it heavily.
Maybe Cressida and Kate both live off of their families money. Maybe they both had aspirations to be financially secure by marriage into a very public family.
Maybe Cressida is just playing her cards better and at their core they’re both only wanting for an easy life without responsibility. As of yet i’m still waiting to see what comes out.
And my personal stance is Cressida will have it quite hard being the spare’s wife. Just look at the Fergie vs. Diana tabloid covers in history. Plus Harry doesn’t seem likely to lessen his royal duties. So, I think Cressida either doesn’t know what she’s getting into or there’s a touch of love and duty to be able to stay with Harry knowing history will repeat itself in terms of Fergie vs. Diana.
Chelsy also lives a lifestyle that could not be supported on her salary and lives in an apartment bought by her parents. Jesus when did being a lawyer became a character certificate?
Cress is interested in dancing and it looks like she perused her interests something Kate never did, plus I still haven’t seen her showing her undies for the million time either by wind blowing her skirt or getting in or out of a car, so that’s 2 points for her. In addition to this she seems to have her own friends and life independent of Harry or pleasing him, so another point to her against Kate. That’s all I have for now.
I think it became a character certificate when Chelsy went after a no-nonsense career and actually uses her education. Dancing is seen as frivolous, though there are no doubt those who work hard at it (just like Kate’s major, art history). However, Cressida has chosen not to utilize her training and instead “works” part time for her father’s company. I use quotes because no one believed/s for a second Kate did any work for her parents firm, so should we believe Cressida does? IMO they are no different.
I agree with you, Anna. I don’t see much difference between them either. Other than Cressida having parents who don’t appear to want anything out of her relationship. Or are just better at hiding it. 🙂
Still not seeing how Cressida’s so different from Kate. She still quit her job and gave up her dream of being a dancer to wait around at her flexible job so she can be at the ready whenever Harry calls. She doesn’t even seem to have her own likes, interests, hobbies or charities/volunteer work that she’s pursuing just because she wants to anymore. Given how positive and effusive the press narrative is about her, you’d think the press would be tripping all over themselves to write articles about her if she was indeed doing anything like dancing on the side, volunteering, charity work at a foundation, etc.
She allegedly does have an apartment that her family pays for and lives off their money it’s just she apparently had it before she started going out with Harry. It’s not like she’s some independent woman refusing to live off her family money and won’t cave to royal demands or Harry’s whims.
IMO, any non-aristo woman who was a self-professed dancer-slash-actress-slash-model waiting around to be a royal wife who gave up her dream and lived off her family name and money would be ripped to shreds in the press me thinks. She’s just got the aristo background that gets her the free pass it seems like.
Kate wishes she were like Cressida, if she was Kate may have had the ring a lot sooner, because the Palace would have already known her and she would not have been a outsider.
Cressida first of all Does work and she works in a area which involves use of her degree.
She’s nothing like Kate which is evident because we don’t know much about this girl , nor do we see her in the press much, nor do we see her constantly preening for cameras the way Kate did.
Cressida is of aristocratic background shes nothing like Kate. Cress was born in this circle and dated an Earls son before Harry, she’s not desperately clutching and clawing ,because she doesn’t need to, she was born in this aristocratic set.
Cressida is a blonde Aristocrat from a British University,much like Harry likes and he will end up marrying an Aristocrat either way.
Some will cry and moan,that an Aristocratic girl ends up being Harry’s wife , but I will love watching Harry marry an a Aristocratic lady, because she will have some qualities of his mother. I for one will enjoy watching this, This is one wedding I will watch and look forward to, while sitting back in the wee morning with hot cocoa.
“Cressida first of all Does work and she works in a area which involves use of her degree.”
Isn’t she an executive assistant or personal assistant now because it was a more royal schedule friendly job?
Kate went to and graduated from a prestigious University as well.
It seems to me the real difference between the two is still one is from an aristo background and the other isn’t. But they were both still thirstily after the prince and tiara. One landed hers and the other is working hard to change her life to land him. It’s just one gets a friendlier spin in the press because of her aristo background than the “commoner.”
Frances
You seem really taken with Cressy because she is a blonde aristo. Both of thise features are accidents of birth. What else is there to personally like about her?
It seems the only way she’s “nothing like Kate” is that she’s born into a good family. Kate also “worked” at her parents’ company, went to a good school and is pretty and all that stuff. If the only thing you can say to distinguish Cressida is that she’s from an aristocratic family and will have lots in common with Harry’s (bulimic, mentally unstable, not-very-well educated) mother, well, that’s not really a lot to recommend her is it?
I should mention that Diana was beautiful, she worked hard for the royal family, and I liked her immensely. But let’s not pretend that she was amazing just by virtue of being aristocratic. She had troubles, too.
I feel the same Francis, but only about the Cressida seems better than Kate. And not because of her looks or bloodline. More because she seems (at least for now) to be her own person and t to live for another. And her degree was received without an MRS in mind (TMK).
And even if Cressy is playing the tabs very well… That would make her more of a Diana.
She perused dancing for years, isn’t this considered as perusing your interests? She is definitely not an independent woman, atleast financially or doing any charity work on a regular basis.
I am just not big on the idea of Duchess Scrunchy 🙁 Also, not convinced that is where this relationship is headed. We’ll see.
I think they’re probably giving a whirl, to see if it works, as all of us do. As I posted once, a friend in London tells me she’s quite a sweet nice girl etc.
Nonetheless, I keep feeling one day we’re all going to wake up, grab a coffee, go online and find out she’s now dating a Skarsgard and getting a small role in a film. And it will be on to the next potential wife for PH, or it will herald a new era in working royals….
I rather agree with this.
@Liberty and LadySlippers,
I rather hope that is the case 🙂
I hope you are right @Liberty – but I rather fear that we are all going to wake up to the news of their engagement. We will all b*tch and moan about it but will obsessively follow every detail leading up to the wedding and find ourselves glued to our TV’s/computers at 5:00 am, for those of us in the UD watching Hot Harry marry this bland creature. We will all love the dress and love Cressy for a few days until the euphoria wears off and will then go back to b*tching and moaning about Cressy. I hope you ate right!
I agree Tulip. Most of these ‘reports’ are coming from less than worthy sources and most likely made up. That says A LOT to me.
Also, while we know that Harry *might* want to settle down — that in no way means he wants to settle down now and with every person he dates.
Not that I’m happy about it (I’ve always loved the Ginger Prince and been meh on William), but Cressi is kind of right for the part. She plays the coy fragile princess-to-be, and seems to avoid the spotlight, but the truth is she comes from a rather exhibitionist family. Both her sisters are actresses and she herself is a dancer. There is some part of her that must love the stage. Plus, she is all over the society pages and her in-laws are the Bransons (not exactly quiet types).
To comment on the dancer thing, my personal opinion is that she’s not serious about it. Pretty much any good dance companies hire dancers when they’re young, around 18 or 19 at the latest. You don’t really go to collage too learn dance, you get in to a good school when you’re starting your training, and your dancing has too be prefect by the time you’re 16.
I’m from the US, and maybe they do things differently over there, so I’m open to corrections!
I used to be a classically trained ballerina in a big European company in the first part of my life, and started at their school at 8, took my exam at the Royal Academy of Dance at 17, while still in high school. As soon as I graduated RAD, I joined the company as a prospect = apprentice… while still in high school. So Cressida is old in dancer years, even if she did Modern Dance, which a totally different career path than classical ballet.
I am so jealous. I wanted to dance but after badly spraining my ankle twice as a child I couldn’t do it.
@Nanea, It was pretty much the same for me, except I joined a company as an apprentice at 16. ( I danced at NYCB, and they start their dancers very young, too young in my opinion.)
@bluhare, It’s never too late too start! 😉
Gah! All you dancers . . . I have a friend who went to the Royal Ballet school in London (can’t remember the official name) until her knee gave out. She truly moves like a dancer, too. Poetry in motion. Juliett, if you read here, I mean you!!
Nanea
Wow. I’m a bit jealous.
Bluhare
I fractured a toe in point during a recital. My instructor told me from the curtain I couldn’t leave until it was done with some angry motions. Dance was ruined for me ever since. I envy those that continued. A bad sprained ankle would ruin my day too.
i wanted to be a dancer so badly when i was little, but opportunity wasn’t available and my parents would have preferred hell to freeze over than allow any child of theirs to pursue such a thing.
i’m making up for lost time as an adult, but i wish i had started as a child.
My experience is that there are many older contemporary dancers and by that i mean 20s/30/40s than ballet dancers. Contemporary dancers seem to dance for much longer than Ballet dancers for the simple reason that their dance world isn’t so narrowly focused. And many seem to have started with contemporary at a much older age than is required for Ballet.
You are lucky. Do you dance for aesthetics/personal enjoyment or will you perform or teach? I am the clumsy sort but have always loved dance.
i dance for aesthetics/personal enjoyment, but i do take it as seriously as if i were to perform and attend class everyday unless i’m travelling in which case i try and find a local yoga class to keep body conditioning.
@LAK, That’s great! I love hearing stories about people who started dancing later on. Back when I was teaching ballet, the adult/late starters were always my favorite too teach, because they want too be there!
And when it comes too contemporary dancers, I think it really depends on the style. Ex. Martha Graham’s style of modern is very hard on the joints, so the dancers often have a shorter career.
BTW, I always love your comments on the royals, I feel like I learn so much from you!
When I see Cressy I hear crickets.
Well, that was said about Lady Diana Spencer back in the day, too.
Pretty and bland. From a good family. Sweet. SHY. Not wildly bright, not wildly interesting.
Sure to settle in, bear children and be NO TROUBLE AT ALL to the royal family.
So true! If it hadn’t have ended so tragically, it would be hilarious.
Oh I hope that doesn’t happen! Harry is so charming. Is it too much to hope his future marriage to be scandal free?
I want Harry to be happy too, FLORC.
Can we just agree that any girl who is getting serious with a prince, regardless of what family she comes from or what sort of image she projects, is set on getting the tiara, titles, and perks of being a royal? Sorry, but this isn’t just about TWU LUV and it simply never will be. I’m not saying they don’t love each other necessarily, but as long as there is a Monarchy, desire to be Princess-so-and-so or Duchess this-and-that is ALWAYS going to be part of the equation. Being a royal comes with too much baggage and responsibility for a girl to marry someone like Harry based on love alone. If it was just about that, then they’d have their royal guy give up his royal status when they got hitched. No, Cressida wants the tiara just as much as Kate or any other person who seriously pursues anyone with a title.
I agree completely. Absolutely no body( Kate, Chelsy or Cress etc) will be in a serious relationship with a prince and don’t want to be a royal.
Could we be a bit mellower and say something about they concede the fact it comes with the territory? Maybe they really don’t want it, but if they want Harry it’s the price they pay.
PS Is Harry’s shirt pink or did he mix up his colors in the wash?
I totally agree with bluhare. Too many Royal men have had to do some SERIOUS convincing to get their beloved down the aisle. And while some people with have flings — it’s a lot of work to get them to stay.
So I think it’s totally unfair to say every women dating a prince wants a title just because a few vocal ones do. It’s really not true of them all.
Angelic 21 says:
March 4, 2014 at 12:51 pm
Anna,
So Chelsy never wanted a tiara but still agreed to date Harry for 8 years? Also I find it for such a intelligent, bright girl like her, it took her almost a decade to decide that she didn’t want a title. That’s what her PR line was, whenever they broke up the excuse she didn’t want a tiara was issued by her but then again just after few months saying she didn’t want royal life she get back together with him. Isn’t she just so bright!
Everybody keep on saying if Cress is dating Harry she obviously wants a title but on the same breath says Chelsy never wanted 1 even though she was the 1 who dated him for nearly a decade and moved to another country to be with him. It can possibly be both. If cress wants tiara for dating him then by same logic so did Chelsy, she was just smart enough to have a backup plan and not put all her eggs in 1 royal basket like Kate.
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Spot on Angelic. Chelsy was with Harry for about 8yrs. Her pr always came out that she didn’t want the title when they would have a break up. I always wondered if that was her way of rubbing Harry’s nose in it. Saying she didn’t want HIS life anyway.
If Cressida and Harry marry ,what would her title be?
HRH Duchess of X. we don’t know yet what Harry’s peerage title is going to be and probably won’t until the marriage. Out of the vacant royal ducal titles, meaning no title holders and no potential petitioners, the following are available for Harry; Windsor, Clarence, Sussex, Suffolk, Connaught, Portsmouth, Cleveland.
of all of them, Windsor is too recently scandalous, less said about that the better and is the most unlikely of available options.
I always hoped he would be Clarence. Don’t know why, but he looks like a Duke of Clarence to me. Suffolk/Connaught would be my second picks.
Froop, me too. Those are the titles i want for him. in the same order as you.
Cressida doesn’t need her family to buy an apartment in London. Isn’t she from London? And her family is aristocratic so I’m sure they have a few houses here and there for her to crash in wherever she chooses. I know people are trying to paint her as the Anti-Kate but I don’t see much of a difference. I don’t mind Kate but I’m seeing a lot of similarities. Putting your life on hold for your prince, not having a real career (so she got a BA in dance at college? Kate is college educated too. I don’t see Cressida joining any dance companies), and just kind of partying and floating around (oh and shopping!). Maybe going on vacation every couple of months.
Of course she might not be like this at all and working hard at things we don’t know about but that’s how the media is portraying her to me .
All these women are cut from the same cloth, born into a life of wealth and privilege. They have never had to work a day in their lives. Kudos to Chelsy for wanting to, but Kate should not be penalized because she didn’t. As far as I can see both women had ambition in their youth, it’s their goal that is different. I’m not mad at Kate for not doing something with her degree.
Some young women want to focus their energy into building a career for themselves, while some focus their energy into finding a husband (whether for love or connections, or both.) There is nothing wrong with either choice. The difference between Kate and most other women like her, is that she had the luxury of not having to work while she figured out the best course to get her man- and get her man she did! That being said, I agree now that she has cemented herself to the future King, there are different expectations. She seriously needs to step up her game when it comes to her work commitments.
And as for Chelsy, I don’t want to make less of her achievements, being a lawyer is hard work, but I’m sure she didn’t get there without connections through her parents. I’d be more impressed if she had to work to support herself while in school; or if the only money she uses to support herself today is the income she receives as a lawyer and not what mom and dad add to her bank account. Or that trustfund I’m sure she has.
1) If my parents were multi multi millionaires and they set me up with a fancy apartment I wouldn’t say no.
2) Fact is, p.r this and p.r. that, the only gal who really did get the job done is Kate.
3) If Prince Harry shows up at my doorstep and asks me to marry him Im not saying ‘no’. No matter how badly y’all wanna talk about me selling out, being a waity, having a baloney degree, harry’s gonna cheat on her in vegas, etc, etc. I shall check in on Celebitchy on occassion between tea and sausage curling appointments. and Harry time.