Duchess Kate ‘has been talking about having at least three children’

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I tend to think that Prince William and Duchess Kate’s move full-time to Anmer Hall has not been largely well-received at home or abroad. Most people have gotten the gist of what the move means in real terms – that Will and Kate’s already sparse public schedule will be even lighter in the coming years, and we’ll probably go months at a time without either of them doing any public events. Which isn’t the way to keep “the public” interested in your whole “we’re so normal” shtick, especially when said shtick costs the British taxpayers an ass-ton of money in security, staffers, upkeep and endless castle renovations. But you know what will turn this whole bad news cycle around? If Kate starts popping out MOAR BABIES.

WITH their new home in Norfolk almost finished and William poised to start a new job flying with the nearby air ambulance, it has the look of the inevitable. Now it seems we could once again be hearing the pitter-patter of tiny royal feet after Kate told friends that she is “ready for baby number two”.

The Duchess of Cambridge, 32, is now apparently eager to extend her brood and has even hinted at wanting more children in the future. Yesterday a source close to the couple revealed: “Kate has been talking about having at least three children, which is why she is keen to be pregnant again. The Duke would probably be happy with two but Kate is very close to her brother and sister and there is a sense that as she is one of three, she would like to have three herself.”

Earlier this month, Kensington Palace confirmed that the 32-year-old Duke will join the East Anglian Air Ambulance next spring following five months of training. He will be based at either Norwich or Cambridge Airport, which is virtually equidistant from their newly refurbished London apartment 1A at Kensington Palace and Anmer Hall, the Georgian mansion on the Sandringham estate given to them by the Queen as a country bolthole. The couple have spent £1.5million of their own money renovating the 200-year-old Grade II listed property, which has a swimming pool and tennis court, and plan to base themselves there for the “next couple of years”, according to sources.

“The couple are hugely excited about spending more time in Norfolk. They feel like caged animals at Kensington Palace but in Norfolk can live the kind of life they enjoyed on Anglesey. There are no paparazzi waiting on the doorstep. It’s the perfect place to bring up a young family,” the source added.

[From Express]

Another baby or two would certainly help with PR. Plus, it would give her yet another excuse for why her schedule hasn’t picked up at all, which is what happened when she was pregnant with Prince George too. She spent the first five months of her pregnancy “taking it easy,” which is to say, “on vacation.” And I don’t know why William cares how many babies they have – it’s not like he’s helping out with George at all.

A few more Kate items… an artist/cartoonist for The Simpsons turned Kate into a Simpsons character – go here to see the drawing. It’s really good! And Hello reports that Kate and William will be visiting Oxford University on September 8th to open The Dickson Poon University of Oxford China Centre Building. It’s a building dedicated to “China-related studies.” It will be William and Kate’s first public event since August 5th.

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  1. Sarah says:

    That boy has a Middleton face

    • Lizzie says:

      I wonder will he go darker when he gets older. My brother was super fair haired when he was Georges age and now he has super dark hair.
      I wonder will the Middleton genes kick in as he grows?

      • LAK says:

        It doesn’t matter since the windsor genes will kick in mid 20s and erase all Middleton traces. they are nuclear grade level at this point. need afew more generations of outsider infusions to balance or fade out.

      • There’s still a lot of Alexandra of Denmark in that family, and it’s been quite a few generations since she married Edward VII.

  2. Victoria 1 says:

    Wow Those close ups show she is aging fast. I’m her age and get mistaken for 20’s, but I love food and work a real job.
    Still that eyeliner, throw it out!!!

    • AD says:

      PSA: don’t smoke, kids!

    • als says:

      @Victoria 1: Exactly!
      @AD: Exactly!

    • little_blu says:

      yep, that’s a hard looking 32. She needs to get on a good skin care regimen

      • tracking says:

        And stop smoking and sunning.

      • FLORC says:

        little_blu
        It’s too late. Damage is done. Although, if she put on a healthy amount of weight her skin really smoothes out. I wouldn’t doubt she gets the works done on her beauty routine.

    • Chammy says:

      Kate = Fillers?
      2nd pic: no crow feet, her nasolabial wrinkles (from nose to mouth) are less sharp as well

      • Juliette says:

        I’ve always thought it was a bit of Botox.

      • Pippa M says:

        FLORC
        +1000
        Waity anorexic poor nutrition excluding some foods age some fast – braoinless Waity don’t seem to realize the contradiction in anorexic size and having fillers; royal shameless.

        Minnifinn one of our writers in another article, did a job explaining doonothing Waity other aristocrats; and the old money quiet respect, discreetly give back to the less among us/ charities; compared to new wealth workless Waity doolittle ma corella muddleton family hangers on type who are workshy children give nothing to the VB type (Waity seem to aspire to (celebrity status) than HM BRs)).

        She did a good job and I believe she is from CA describing what we see and detest in workless Waity behaviour free loading of millions of tax payers supporting doolittle P Willnot lack of duty to HM GB UK CommoNwealth.

        Notice more pregnancy NO WORK (shaking hands representing HM at functions, work with charities for resources). Note Willnot Ambulance co piloting excuse, be based equal distance to KP and AH!

    • Pippa M says:

      Victoria
      +1000

      Workless Waity drinking and smoking getting caught up on Waity.

      Simpsons cartoon is fitting for Waity doolittle – as she is neither. regal royal or classy – jeggings and skin fit jeans madam; an unbecoming RF member in public – Waity lack of respect to HM her PW and son

      Prince George is all P William grannie Di POW HM and ggrandpa Spencer churchilll-like, especially walking Lady Di down the isle.

  3. Sarah says:

    Can we all agree that the Dickson Poon University of Oxford China is the best named uni ever?
    Dicks and poon lololol

  4. als says:

    Call me crazy but in these photos she looks 10 years older than she really is.

  5. Talie says:

    They were supposed to do voices on The Simpsons when they were in LA, but I think their people nixed the idea. Shame.

  6. Ollyholly says:

    The guy who drew the Simpsons esque pictures of her isn’t an artist for the Simpsons, he’s just a random guy who drew her in someone else’s style.

    • Hazel says:

      But they’re really good! I love the whole zombie-apocalypse feel to the last one, with all those Kates out in front BP.

  7. MonicaQ says:

    Does she smoke? Because it shows in her neck. I know that can’t be from stress. /sarcasm

    • FLORC says:

      She’s been caught with packs of cigarettes in her purse on more than a few occasions. And those France pics had a few that showed her mid drag with a cigarette in her hand.

  8. EC says:

    I just moved to the UK and am pretty surprised by how “meh” everyone’s attitude is re: these two. Anyone I talk to (mostly peasant family and friends) seemed totally fine with their light schedule and move out of London. They give Will and Kate major passes for wanting to live “normal lives” and think that Will’s new job is honorable. Most also argued that Kate does a lot behind the scenes, like taking princess lessons, studying, getting briefed on upcoming engagements, and wrangling Big G.

    I was totally surprised but mostly people vehemently defended these two. Maybe we are looking at it wrong? Maybe our expectations are too high?

    But the eyeliner has GOT TO GO. No excuses for that.

    • Suze says:

      Are they ‘meh’ about them or arguing vehemently in their favor?

      It’s my experience with the Brits in my office that most people don’t give a toss!

      • FLORC says:

        The brits I know call them celebrities and think very little about them. While they’re not ready to revolt they’re not pleased about paying for that lifestyle.

    • MinnFinn says:

      EC, Do you mind saying if you’re from the U.S.? I ask because I wonder if the Americans who pay some attention to W&K are more likely than Brits to view them as slackers.

      I view them as slackers probably because I’m an American. I think Britain’s royalty and its documented/titled/aristocratic class are preternatural. And it baffles me that non-titled Brits are laissez-faire about two systems that declare others are above them. Monarchy and Britain’s hereditary peerage are not benign institutions. They systematically exclude and snub huge swaths of British citizens and they negatively impact non-aristos’ advancement opportunities.

      The system in the U.S. is far from perfect. We have our own birthright privileged class and our meritocracy is flawed. But at least in theory, everyone has a reasonable chance to go as far as their hard work will take them.

      Does anyone know or have theories as to why the Republican movement has very little support in Britain?

      Also, when Britain’s elderly class burgeons, will attendant budget constraints eventually cause Brits to favor a Republic?

      • wolfpup says:

        MinnFinn – I wonder about the same thing. Are people just too comfortable to notice?

      • notasugarhere says:

        I’d think they’re too busy trying to keep the roof over their heads, find jobs, and pay the bills. They do not have time to research the lies being spun about tourism, the truth about the cost of royals, etc.

    • Godwina says:

      It ages her. Any eyeliner that isn’t a little smudged AGES, people. Super harsh.

    • kendra says:

      These two are part of the reason Scotland’s seceding next month.

      Truth.

      • Legalkatz says:

        @Kendra

        Scotland is having a referendum to decide if they want to part company from the the UK. It’s not a done deal yet!

  9. Loopy says:

    REALLY? Can one be that lazy and have another BABY just to avoid work, work that isn’t exactly mining or 20 hour shifts!

    • nora says:

      we tend to blame Kate on her laziness (which is probably real) but a few days ago I saw a documentary about Diana and they explained to the royal family (Charles etc …) how evil had lived the popularity Diana and was trying to reduce his appearances and engagements with associations, I think if the royal family has asked Kate to do more it would no problem but I think Charles and William are very careful not to relive some events
      ps: henceforth it was Charles who does the press service of the royal family should never forget when we read the news of the royal family

    • MrsB says:

      Kate seems like a really involved, loving mother. She seems happiest with George, so I don’t think it’s really fair to accuse her of wanting more kids just to avoid work. Having kids is some of the hardest, most exhausting work one can have! She seems to genuinely enjoy being a mother though.

      • FLORC says:

        MrsB
        It’s all in how you take in the info. Kate is seen with George smiling = Must be an involved and Happy mom.
        Now if the other set of pics were released of Kate taking several vacations without George and having fun would the image be the same? Especially with those shots of George and his nannies smiling and having fun without Kate.

        It’s all in the image her pr wants you to absorb.

        I’m willing to bet she does love George and is a good mom. That’s subjective though. Aristo parents and a parent like yourself (if you are one) are simply not the same. Having Nannies is the norm and hiding the fact you have help is also the norm. With that knowledge i’m more inclined to agree that Kate gets George after the work is done and it’s play time.

        Comparing Kate’s behavior and duties as a mom to the average person who works without a huge staff and money to burn is apples and oranges. They’re just so far apart.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I agree, MrsB, that’s when she seems happiest and most herself. I don’t think it’s fake. And FLORC, of course she has nannies and help. That doesn’t prevent her from loving her child or wanting more children. Most of my friends have help with their children in some form or another, and they are good, loving parents.

      • maybeiamcrazy says:

        Having a nanny doesn’t mean she is not a good mother. I had a nanny but I never doubted my mother’s love. But I cannot defend them when it comes to holidays. My parents used to take two weeks of vacation every year just for themselves. But other than that, they always took us with them, with or without nanny depending on the location. I don’t understand how parents can leave their newborn or toddler four or five times a year. I am not a mother myself but it still is incomprehensible to me. But royals live a different life so maybe it is the way it is for them. Their nannies are probably highly accountable and have worked for the family for a long time.

      • FLORC says:

        GoodNames
        I meant to bring up nannies to another point. The point that having kids isn’t such a full time and difficult job for Kate as opposed to mom’s that say, are posting here. My whole comment was pretty much driving at that point. Not that Kate has nannies, therefore doesn’t want more kids.

        I know couples that have no help, some help, loads of help (on par with William and Kate). The demands, comforts, and degrees of interactions with their chldren very drastically. I’m not trying to shame anyone for having help. Just that when some have help that’s far less time with the child. A vacation is more easily planned and taken, hours away from your child is the norm, and the help is there to do the hard work of raising a child. The dirty work if you would. Then the parents get the child for all the perks.

        Judging from all we hear on Kate, 2 hour morning work outs, every other day 5 or so hour shopping trips, hours and hours in a salon without George at any of these. I have an image of her being like those ladies with loads of help and free time to tend to themselves. They still love their kids and spend time with them. They also indulge in the help they afford to have time to care for themselves.
        No shade. That’s my point.

      • Chammy says:

        Kate doesn’t pay for her nannies herself but she will use the children as an excuse to not do any royal duties. And the taxpayer pays for everything. That is a lot of shade as opposed to people who pay for their nannies and housekeepers with their own money.

      • notasugarhere says:

        FLORC. Thank you for explaining this so well. It is what I think too. The majority of her time “with the baby” is spent with him when all the dirty work is done. They may enjoy their time together, but she cannot logically be compared to the average, middle class stay at home mother.

        Doesn’t mean she is a “bad parent” but she isn’t a “full-time” parent like the average, everyday homemaker who hires a babysitter once a month. And as you said above, the PR spin is to get out the pictures of her with the baby, not the pictures of her on vacation being happy w/o the baby.

      • AM says:

        Well stated, nota. I think she might participate in a few daily tasks as well, such as bathtime or a meal, but even with that, it’s not the same as a “normal” SAHM as she doesn’t have to clean up the mess afterward.

        This absolutely doesn’t make her a bad parent. Diana and Charles used a series of nannies, and yet both had very loving relationships with William and Harry.

  10. bettyrose says:

    Well, it really is time for a spare. She’s 32 and her contractual obligation isn’t fulfilled yet.

    • Loopy says:

      Contractual obligation? Please explain, and what would happen if someone in Kate’s position turned out not being able to have children?

      • bettyrose says:

        Annulment, banishment, beheading. ..but more likely just enduring a lifetime of gossip and rude comments.

      • Magnolia says:

        Loopy, I think BettyRose is being sarcastic. I thought it was hilarious!

      • LAK says:

        Magnolia: actually, BettyRose speaks the truth. The CPss of Japan, Princess Masako had a nervous breakdown because of various issues though the most significant was her failure to produce the heir and when she finally managed, baby was a girl. Crown will now go sideways to CP’s brother because Japan refuses to accept a female as their ruler.

        Kate is contractually obliged to provide an heir and spare – a spare isn’t as urgent as heir, but it helps seal the contractual deal. Ditto william.

        It promotes continuity of the monarch. it’s the only type of marriage in the world ie to a a crown princ[ess] royal, where a heir and spare are contractually required. illegitimacy, adoptions or surrogates are not accepted. if they don’t have a baby born ‘of the body’ in legitimate’ marriage, succession goes sideways to the nearest blood relation who fulfills all those conditions.

        after she’s provided the heir and spare, she can do whatever or whomever she wants. ditto William.

      • Ruckhappy says:

        LAK, wouldn’t you say that implicit in the “contract” is an extra expectation that Kate would be willing to sire a larger family since she’s marrying into the RF as a commoner? It seems to me there’s a conceit among royals that if you marry outside blue blood it should be to stiffen the breeding stock.

      • LAK says:

        Ruckhappy, as a commoner, Kate is expected to do everything to ingratiate herself with her new family.

        with regards breeding, royals marrying outside their royal club is a fairly new concept. It was always considered completely declasse to marry outside the royal club no matter the good of bringing in new stock. even if the royal pair were mentally or physically unwell, as long as they both belonged to the royal club, it was accepted. As a result, many of the royal families [current and abolished] across Europe including Britain carry genetic diseases from being too closely related.

        If WW1 had not happened, royals would still be marrying other royals and no one else. And being an aristocrat isn’t the same as being royal, so someone like QM wouldn’t have been considered an acceptable match for the then DOY.

        It will be interesting to see if these commoner CPss [i’m including the Europeans ] allow their children to marry people of similar humble background or they will have become too grand and will seek out royal partners for their children.

      • notasugarhere says:

        “after she’s provided the heir and spare, she can do whatever or whomever she wants. ditto William. ” William has that freedom now. Whether or not he takes advantage of it, we don’t know.

      • AM says:

        There’s an aristo custom about the man staying faithful through the first (or is it second?) child, after which he goes on his merry way.

    • Magnolia says:

      LAK: there is no contract that requires Katherine to have children, it is just socially expected. Elizabeth I had no children and she got along just fine.

      • LAK says:

        Magnolia: Royals in a position to inherit the throne [or monarchs] are expected to have children to continue the line. it is not simply a social expectation. It is as implicit as the expectation that whoever marries them marries a job and their marriage is a contract with the public and not just a private affair between the two.

        Elizabeth I was forever plagued with marriage proposals and suggestions that she should marry to provide an heir until her final days.

        Finally, i made it very clear in my earlier comment that if the monarch/heir didn’t provide the required heir, the line of succession moved sideways to the nearest blood relation who fulfilled the necessary requirements for inheritance.

  11. MeeMow says:

    If the Queen wanted them in London full time, why would she have gifted them a home in the country?

    • FLORC says:

      To hope William doesn’t avoid Christmas again and to give him what he wants so he isn’t as bitter to embrace his royal duties now or when the time comes. Keeping th peace in a way.
      Also, Amner Hall is a residence gifted after William famously avoided the 1 mandatory wish of his Grandmother. Show up for Christmas. He cited there was no room for them to feel comfortable in and have their own space. That they’ve moved there as a primary residence was out of left field. Especially after the extensive KP renovations. Those were done in a rush to be the primary residence.

    • MinnFinn says:

      I agree FLORC that the Anmer gift was a bribe/appeasement to keep them coming for Christmas.

      But to MeeMow’s question, a country home is de rigueur in that class. QE would have given them a country place anyway, just not necessarily at Sandringham.

      • notasugarhere says:

        They could have used the country home Charles purchased for them way back.

      • FLORC says:

        Forgot about this. William was gifted a cottage in that area, but didn’t find it up to his wants/needs. So, Amner Hall was vacated and gifted then. I think William still has the cottage. And keep note when I say cottage it’s a very large home as that area is not for the small structures.

  12. AM says:

    William was asked about this when they were engaged, and he quickly said they were having two. I tend to think that, based on nearly 15 years of evidence, what William says goes.

    • FLORC says:

      AM
      This is all fluff pr imo. Unless the spare comes in the form of twins it won’t happen. This is just another example of what the press says Kate will do or wants to od, but never follows through on.

      I’m taking this as an attempt to distract. Say Kate has grand and ambitious plans to stop the whispers of laziness. And that’s it.

      Of course, maybe she does want 3 children. William is the 1 she needs to convince. Not us.

    • Mitch Buchanan Rocks! says:

      you are on to something here perhaps something even a little sinister – who knows what goes on behind closed doors – it could be a dynamic similar to tomkat. She either looks stoned or unhappy – it seems a genuine smile doesn’t reach her eyes much like Princess Charlene. They kind of look trapped.

      • maybeiamcrazy says:

        Oh no! Make no mistake, Kate is happy. Kate doesn’t mind being “trapped” in royal family. Will and Kate get along well IMO. They have their unwritten rules and as long as they stick to them, their marriage will work. I don’t know if they are in love or it is just a friendship. But what they have is working for them. And it is a good thing, being in love doesn’t guarantee a marriage to last but mutual interests with a friendly bacground pretty much does( if one of them doesn’t decide that she/he wants “more”). I have seen many marriages like that around me and they are happy and in time they become best friends.

      • FLORC says:

        Mitch
        Her genuine smile doesn’t always reach her eyes is more likely because of Botox. I’m not seeing enough to read past that.

        Maybeiamcrazy
        Good point. Although, I do think Kate is in love with William/ Not in a mutual love and respect way. More dependent, but still love more than friends.

      • AM says:

        I do wonder what he could do that would be the final straw for her. I can’t imagine any scenario in which she would be the one to end it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        @AM. He walks away from the throne for himself and PGTips (they’ll find a legal way to make it happen), all royal perks (houses, money, security) are removed, and he moves to Africa to ‘help’ with Tusk Trust.

  13. Courtney says:

    She looks a good 5 years older than she really is. Dropping the eyeliner and gaining about 5-10 lbs. would do her wonders.

  14. Lara K says:

    Of course she wants 3 kids – what else has she got to do?
    I think she’d be a lot happier with a more involved husband and a real life job where she actually has some friends. When was the last time she had pizza and wine with her girlfriends?
    She makes me sad.

  15. margie says:

    I actually like Kate and Will, and think George is adorable, BUT I also think Diana would be appalled at their work ethic. I know it is unfair to compare, and Diana cannot be replaced, blah blah, blah. I went to the Diana exhibit when it went through Cincinnati this summer, and it was unexpectedly touching and it really brought to light all the work she did. When she was a patron of something she didn’t just visit once a year. She got dirty and mingled with the people her charities served, and she brought it in the clothes department. There was a quote with all of her outfits that were exhibited, and it was something to the effect of “I don’t want the people to see me as a clothes-horse, but as a work-horse” and that while she knew she needed to dress for things, she didn’t want that to take away from her work and the people that needed her celebrity to help their causes. Kate is failing at both of these things SO HARD. The Diana exhibit is not good for Kate and Will. It is the opposite; it reveals how truly lazy and self-absorbed they both seem.

    • FLORC says:

      I think Diana enjoyed her status in the world. Even premarriage. I cant say he would have let Kate or Carole near her son. It’s all just speculating at this point though. Likely lots would be different.

      • Pippa M says:

        LAK Dee
        +1B

        Di was a hardworker from the start. She PC POW worked respected their position HM. Di supported and worked tirelessly with charities, gain from her regal clothes to the huge donations and prominence..

        Lady Di was an aristocrat Titled and wealthy family, schooled in Switzerland, yet she worked as a nanny. Those roles cemented her as very good mother who didn’t use her kids for PR paps and flashing low class; DI POW. respected her role as POW mom wife to heirs, and with regal class style Icon.

        Something workless Waity could duplicAte in her busy life. To follow build as wife to P William and mom

        Brainchild;
        Waity may have achieve other s try to bag. – aristocratic Titles, etc. But not many is placed in as heir monarch wife and mum.

        Waity dooolittle wanted role for a decade and fought hard giving up herrself. If doolittle ma corella muddletons strategize done professional work Waity would be a better parent and mature wife. Not about Luxury vacations shopping hair shopping again and still have low class NO style.

    • may23 says:

      I think Diana had only became a hard-working royal when her children grew a bit older. At the beginning, just like Kate, she took it slow.

      • LAK says:

        Please can we stop revising Diana’s work record to give Kate a pass.

        There are many things to revise about Diana, but her work record isn’t one of them. She was hardworking and never shirked her duty.

        Her work record is public and easily available in the national archives and the CC. She clocked 200 engagements in her first year, whilst also managing to fall pregnant and birthing William. she never had any sort of long term break, not even for childcare purposes.

        She continued at that rate and higher until her divorce when she announced that she would cut back to concentrate on only 6 charities.

      • m says:

        Diana was also 20 years old when she married Charles, battled eating disorders and depression, and produced one child before her first wedding anniversary and another shortly after. All by the age of 24. Kate has 10 years on Diana, she doesn’t get an excuse.

      • Deedee says:

        Diana also gave her first public speech (part of it in Welsh) while on a 3 day tour with Charles approximately three months after the wedding. http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/princess-diana/videos/22288557/title/princess-diana-gives-speech-welsh You could tell that she was nervous, but there was no hair twirling or big cheesy grin.

      • FLORC says:

        I don’t think Diana’s bulk of her numbers were made up by walking from transport to transport either.
        Now excuse me while I attend an event. I’m walking from the kitchen to the bedroom. I will stop in the livingroom’s bay window to wave to the children across the street. Then carry on. Since there was mild interaction with others I think it’s fair I count it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Thank you LAK, m, Deedee, and FLORC for bringing facts to the discussion.

      • Chrissy says:

        May23, we also have to remember that Diana was a very young bride and mother with a much older husband. Her getting used to royal life with its routines, the publicity and the pressure to produce an heir must have been overwhelming for her even with her being from a privileged background herself. I think it unfair to compare Diana and Kate. Kate had years to get to know what was expected of her so she doesn’t get a pass in my books.

  16. may23 says:

    I really don’t get why does she look so much older than her real age. I’m not saying it to be mean. I’m trying to figure it out. What is happening behind the closed doors? She has a supportive family, lots of money and help. William is not the worst man to marry. Finally, she is not a full-time working royal and her duties so far have been minimal.
    Is she tired because she has a small baby? Is she nervous because there’s a pressure to be perfect (somehow I don’t feel she really cares about that)? Can’t be ONLY because she smokes.
    Like WHAT can possibly make her life SO hard for her to look so tired and stressed?

    • Chammy says:

      She is lazy and doesn’t give much about charities and non-aristocratic non-rich people in general.

      • may23 says:

        that doesn’t answer my question.

      • Chammy says:

        Very well then:
        – over-excercising
        – over-dieting = loss of “natural fillers” (fat)
        – too much sun tanning
        – fake tan (frankly, I doubt that stuff is that healthy)
        – alcohol
        – smoking
        – make-up, always
        – stress: she put herself under stress by desparately clinging to William for nearly a decade

    • L says:

      I’ve heard, and this is just from gossip sites, that she smokes (or did smoke?) That can really do a number in terms of aging. But I agree. I’m 42 and she looks older than me.

      • may23 says:

        Yes, it’s not just a gossip – she smokes. But a lot of celebrities smoke and still look fine.

    • LAK says:

      my theory is that Kate is stuck in a situation similar to POTUS or PM of UK. They all age at an accelerated once they are in the office.

      i’m not suggesting that Kate has the same schedule as POTUS/PM or even the same pressures, but i remember when she cut short her first round of public duties in 2012 after William returned from the Falklands. The palace released a curious statement that said public duties had so stressed her out that she had started to grey.

      The greying, as we all see, is worse with each passing year, so i think the pressure of being in the RF and the expectations, perceived and real, and having to deal with people who won’t necessarily acquiesce to her, like her family, is stressing her out and causing her to age.

      Plus the usual bad habits eg smoking, tanning, botox and fillers and the rapid aging of the goldsmiths.

      • may23 says:

        I’m positive she doesn’t use any BOTOX. It would’ve been apparent.

      • FLORC says:

        May23
        LAK and others have posted numerous photos of her forehead and the side effects of using botox on Kate and other stars known for having abused botox.
        It’s very apparent she has used botox and from time to time still does though not as heavily as she did imo.

        It’s a topic that’s been tackled here and talked about at length. Kind of a closed case at this point as the evidence was overwhelming.

      • LAK says:

        May23: her botox is as obvious as the nose on her face. Perhaps you think this is her natural face? It is not.

      • TuxCat says:

        A palace statement actually said that Kate started to gray due to stress from public duties? Seriously?

        Seeing as she lives in the first world, she started to gray due to genetics, nothing more. Believe me, I spent plenty of time looking into this, as I started graying at 19. Every source from cosmetologists to medical texts and specialists said it’s genetics. The graying even follows/develops in a distinct pattern.

        *Losing* hair can be due to stress, not graying. If she’s graying a lot, it means she’s got “bad genes”. I myself got “bad genes” from both sides of my family (I’m 42 and have been at least 65 percent gray since my mid-thirties. So were Mom and Dad. The hair color industry loves my family).

      • FLORC says:

        TuxCat
        Love the name!
        And you can gray from stress. US presidents do.

        And Kate might truly be stressed. She doesn’t have much experience working prior to marriage. Stress and pressure is subjective. It might be too much for her to handle. With that said she was seen graying before the engagement. So, that statement is silly.

    • FLORC says:

      May23

      My guess is genetics among other reasons.
      Carole and Pippa also age in a rough manner. Outside of that Kate, smokes, has drank to excess, sun worships, and from the looks of her diets and herself appears dehydrated. It’s worth noting when she gains a little weight her skin much improves.

      And as LAK as noted Kate’s real face isn’t the face you see in photos. She has bad skin, bad hair, and is graying with the majority of her hair. The photos we see are editted to hell and back. Softening her skin, lightening her makeup, softening her hair, removing blemishes and skin imperfections, blurring out crows feet and deep forehead wrinkles (that still exist with botox), etc…
      She’s human. That she marries William and all her imperfections vanish is foolish. It just makes it worse when we see her in her natural state. And it shouldn’t. We shouldn’t be shocked to see barely any resemblence between the natural Kate and the Kate in photos.

      • Astrid says:

        I agree. Photos of the young Kate barely show any semblance to her now. Whilst her face isn’t exactly chiseled, it does look more angular and less roundish these days. That couldn’t be all due to makeup and dieting alone. What struck me about her early photos was how blank and disengaged she looks in all of them. Something rather haunting in her expressions then; like a child that never gets noticed, always in the background, doesn’t stand out or particularly excels at anything. If anything, the dogged determination and tenacity she demonstrated in chasing (ok, ok, “waiting for”) William and her seeming obsession on her looks, and bouts of exhibitionism seem too gargantuan a leap from her old timid-looking self. Add to that the missing knickers in a lot of her photos… this ugly duckling didn’t exactly blossom into a swan naturally.

      • FLORC says:

        Astrid
        I’m willing to assume Kate in her university days and Kate now has a lot to do with natural aging. The angular face, slimmer nose, and the thinner bags under her eyes are rumored to be more from cosmetic surgery.

        As far as her expressions, hmm… I think it could be a few things. Not finding it easy to relate to what she’s hearing/seeing. Makeup/Botox/photoshop, and trying too hard. Her expressions in sporting stuff seems genuine. The smile, movement, etc all seem genuine. It’s a drastic difference when she’s meeting people or listening to them.
        As far as never getting noticed, I think she struggles to get Willi’s attention sometimes. She’s admitted as much that he’s barely around at all. In this way I feel sympathy for her, but remind myself she’s a grown woman in her 30’s who knew what kind of man William is.

  17. original kay says:

    I had to stop at 2 kids, for economic reasons. I turn 42 in 3 weeks, and it’s hitting that it’s over for me, mommy wise.

    so I suppose this bothers me, on some level, that it’s sent out in a magnanimous fashion: Kate wants 3 kids!

    well, sure. with unlimited money, resources, vacations, nannies, blah blah blah, I would have had my 3rd too.

    • FLORC says:

      Original Kay
      Carreful, You can still conceive at 42.

      This article is something. I give it no chance. Now, if William was talking about having 3 instead of stating he only wants 2 I would think it’s got legs.

      • Ruckhappy says:

        “Carreful, You can still conceive at 42. ”

        I’ll say. My son was conceived in a ten-day window when his mom was 44. You should have seen the astonished look on her face when she came out of the bathroom with the stick showing positive. Many a queen of yore was whelping in her 40’s.

      • TuxCat says:

        “Careful, you can still conceive at 42.”

        Please keep saying this…and thanks for your comment, Ruckhappy. I’m 42, unmarried with no children and would like someday to be married and have children, and really hope it’s not too late.

      • FLORC says:

        TuxCat
        Chances greatly decrease after 36. If you want to ensure you have children in your future I strongly urge you to freeze some eggs.

  18. notasugarhere says:

    “The couple have spent £1.5million of their own money renovating the 200-year-old Grade II listed property, ” Correction: They spent £1.5million of the Duchy’s money.

    I’m enjoying the fact that the original article pointed out what we did: Anmer and Kensington are the same distance from the airfield, therefore no excuse to move.

    • FLORC says:

      I was remembering you saying this Notasugarhere.

      No shade if they want to raise George in the country. My only criticism is taht they didn’t speak out to this earlier while still acting like the KP renovations were so needed for their primary residence needs. Is that called a bait and switch? Or no?

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, FLORC, another expression to add to your English language collection. Definitely a bait and switch. I suspect William pulled it on the BRF as well as the general public.

      • FLORC says:

        Notasugarhere
        Hehe it was already added, but I used it incorrectly. Metaphors, idioms, euphemisms, you name it, i’ve incorrectly used it!

        I do wonder how long William’s behavior will be indulged. While he still has his grandmother and father around I would think he would want to absorb knowledge they retain. Yes, the throne is likely ages away, but that doesn’t mean he can’t prep. I guess, i’m preaching to the choir here.

  19. Tsarina says:

    Of course she wants more kids, I would too if I didn’t have to worry about having the economic means to sustain and give them what ever they desire, as well as nannies to help me raise them and homes to which they can grow up in……

  20. junebug says:

    You folks at celebitchy just love to stir the pot about the royals don’t you. What gives? You a bunch of Brits? I think a lot of Americans like the royals. Recycling the same old story about Kate just means it’s another low-gossip Friday.

    • Miss Bennett says:

      @judebug
      What gives?
      I’ll tell you what gives.
      This is a gossip site. There are articles about many celebrities here, including royal personages. A segment of the readership on this site enjoys following the British Royal Family. It’s the perfect storm of gossip and an interested and involved readership.
      No one is forcing you to read the articles or comments about Royalty. If you don’t like it, feel free to skip it.

  21. Dena says:

    Told y’all the family baby spin was coming. Next, If u dare criticize it, then u are bashing the most honorable job a woman can have (wife-mother / mother-wife) and the most endearing / enduring institution–family.

    They are just trying to grow their love, their children and their marriage which is difficult enough as it is 🎻🎻🎻. So leave them alone!!!!

    U just got to love it. As a matter of fact, I’m tearing up right now (contact lens are dirty) and am reaching for some tissue.

    Long live the queen!!! Etc. Etc. Etc.

  22. dawnchild says:

    I’m no fan of Kate…she is a very familiar archetype of a certain kind of woman whose greatest achievement is already behind her…that of securing a socially and fiscally prominent marriage. She is not unique, but she is a very successful example of her type. History and current society are literally filled with these. I would actively hate my daughter to be known for that achievement alone. (In contrast…here’s a woman…albeit with a Kate-like blowout…whom I am so impressed by, and clearly, so is her husband… http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_and_melinda_gates_why_giving_away_our_wealth_has_been_the_most_satisfying_thing_we_ve_done?language=en)

    BUT…I do think that Kate is absolutely reaping the palace fallout from Diana. In the early 80’s, the palace was initially thrilled to have the young and beautiful Diana revive the excitement of royalty…till it all went horribly downhill for them, and nearly unseated the monarchy into the bargain. So now they will be extremely careful in having anything resembling Diana charisma casting a shade over the major players…i.e. the heirs to the throne, and HM herself. They learned their lesson (they would be extremely stupid if they had not), and will dole out Kate by the handfuls and not particularly fall over themselves to block her bad press either. Unless Will throws a tantrum about naked photos, etc. They’ll appease him, not her. Thus they maintain a nice balance…not mean enough to get Kate sympathy, but not supportive or enabling enough to make her more interesting or fascinating. Of course, she helps out with her passivity and essential boringness…her nice girl head-nodding and eye-widening accompaniment of Will lets him look the alpha of the pair in any public situation. She, on the other hand, thinks that she can reap the benefits of the fabulous marriage without paying the piper. That doesn’t usually work out (anywhere). But I guess retiring to the country to have a few more kids…she will be excellent at that, for sure. That’s what all her friends do.

  23. Amber says:

    Her roots are showing big time, making her look older. Maybe she can’t use hair dye because she’s pregnant? Also her wrinkles are more pronounced, maybe it’s because she’s dehydrated from throwing up because she’s pregnant?? She just looks tired, my guess is we will have an announcement for baby #2 very soon.

    • FLORC says:

      She dyed her hair while pregnant with George. People often forget that. And her wrinkles are more pronounced because her forehead wasn’t touched up as much in these shots. In person she’s always had those wrinkles.
      There’s nothing to suggest she’s pregnant right now.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She also used spray tan and smoked right up to (or after?) conception, both of which are against medical recommendations.

      • FLORC says:

        To her credit Kate stopped the botox during pregnancy and was less orange. She did tan naturally though.
        And from the Chateau pics it’s fair to say she wasn’t avoiding close contact with, at the very least, 2nd hand smoke right up to her conception of George.

        I’m assuming she was only holding that cigarette for William very close to her face.

  24. Jocelyn says:

    3? Hmmkay then. Well, to her credit she seems like a good caring mother.

  25. Tilly says:

    Three? I don’t know… I really got the impression that Kate hatred being pregnant, particularly what it did to her figure (it seems to be the general consensus that she looks better with a few extra pounds, but looking at how quickly she lost the weight after George, she doesn’t agree). I don’t think she’ll have any more children than she’s ‘contractually obliged’ to.

  26. Thinker says:

    I’m late to the game, so many none of you will see this. It needs to be said regardless…

    The Simpson-esque cartoon highlights which of Kate’s fashion choices were winners, and which were totally inappropriate. It seems like you cannot hide the height of a slit on a cartoon, nor cover up the bony cleavage.

    In person, some of these less appropriate outfits were my favorites. But now, to see the slit was to there! And the heels! It all looks less stylish than what the cartoon Queen wore.

    • FLORC says:

      I came back to reply so i’m here Thinker! A day past though so youmight not see this also.
      Just to be nitpicky the Teal/green lacey dress she wore with her hair up and those sparkly jimmy choos isn’t there. That’s a great look. And her her DVF wrap dress and a few others are missing. I understand they squeezed in all they could, but my favs are gone!
      And no RL pokadot dress. But that’s a good thing imo