Well, this is… suspicious. Over the weekend, I posted the candid photos of Prince William, Duchess and Lupo the dog at a train station. The photos marked a very rare occurrence for Will and Kate – William almost always throws a major hissy fit whenever they’re photographed in any kind of candid situation. Not only were the photos taken and sold to major photo agencies, but they were also published in UK newspapers, the same papers that usually embargo candid images. And now here’s a new wrinkle – Express (the paper that published the train station photos) published new candid pics of Will and Kate on a “date night” in Norfolk – go here to see.
Huh. What does the Express have on Will and Kate? Or perhaps a better question would be: what major royal catastrophe is trying to be averted right now? Did Will get a mistress pregnant? Did Kate flash her bum to an Express photographer and the bum photos are being held as some kind of ransom? SO WEIRD. Express (and People) also got some interesting details about Will and Kate’s “date night” too.
THEY are not prone to public displays of affection but the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge “could not keep their hands off each other” during a romantic dinner, according to onlookers. The love-struck royal couple held hands and gazed into each other’s eyes as they enjoyed a rare night out near their new home in Norfolk.
Locals at The Kings Head Hotel in Great Bircham could not believe their eyes as William and Kate, both 32, tucked into sea bream and shared an ice cream dessert after leaving Prince George, one, back at Anmer Hall, their country bolt hole. William, dressed casually in a blue shirt, denim jeans and white trainers, held his wife’s hand as he ushered her to the bar at the Grade II-listed country house hotel just three miles from the Queen’s Sandringham estate.
William, who was driving, ordered a lime and soda while Kate, wearing cropped jeans, a black jumper and her trademark black wedges, sipped on a white wine spritzer as four bodyguards sat at an adjacent table.
The couple then ordered the same meal, grilled fillet of black bream with roasted Mediterranean vegetables, baby spinach, marinated olives and oven-dried tomatoes with arrabiata sauce, priced £16.25. William requested two scoops of vanilla ice cream, with two spoons.
An onlooker said: “William was extremely affectionate and considerate towards Kate throughout. She walked in with wet hair. She kept playing with it, twisting it around her fingers while talking to him. They were quite flirtatious and couldn’t keep their hands off each other. When they had finished their meal, a couple of locals came up to them and said hello. They smiled and were very chatty, very accommodating. My overwhelming feeling was how normal they were. They just seemed happy to mix with the locals.”
The couple arrived at 7.45pm on Thursday and left hand-in-hand two hours later. They have spent the past fortnight in Norfolk overseeing final renovations to the 200-year-old Grade II-listed mansion gifted by the Queen.
Affectionate? Ice cream? Hair twirling? Flirtatious? WHO ARE YOU? And what have you done to the real Will and Kate? People Magazine had much of the same coverage, but they did have this asinine quote from an unnamed “local” in Norfolk: “We see the royals around, but you don’t acknowledge them, as it were. We just leave them, so they can be like everyone else. It’s just how we are in Norfolk – we leave people alone. The royal family’s been coming here for I don’t know how many years, and I like the fact that they can come and just ‘be’ and do their own thing.” Yes, that’s why you’re giving quotes to People Mag.
Last thing… someone named Millie Macintosh (she’s a reality show person in the UK) had some stuff to say about Kate’s terrible style. It was actually sort of on point. Millie said: “I would love to give the Duchess of Cambridge a makeover. I think Kate wears too much eyeliner. She would look great if she toned down the eyes, wore some bright lipstick and mixed up her hairstyle – a scraped-back high pony would look fantastic. She’d look great in one of my little wrap dresses as she has such a gorgeous body and I think it would be fun – less middle-aged – and a bit sexier without being too revealing.”
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
“What does the Express have on Will and Kate? …what major royal catastrophe is trying to be averted right now?”
My sentiments from the get go. It could be anything but my guess is that his mistress threatened to talk.
Or better yet, someone took pictures of his cheating exploits.
I don’t think William has it in him to have a mistress. Just like Waity, he seems like a cold fish. I don’t think he cares about anything other than playing at being a pilot when it suits and avoiding Royal work. When he gets the urge he probably just goes out and kills something (hence so many “hunting trips”).
Maybe not a mistress perhaps, but a series of side pieces. He screwed arond all the time when they were dating, he didn’t even try to hide it from her, or anyone else. He may be more discreet now, but I doubt he’s changed his ways.
William had side pieces while they were dating. Kate knew. Heck, everyone did. I don’t see why things would change now that they are married. Kate will never divorce him over other women.
As an OTT (as I want people’s opinions), what do you guys think about cheating when the wife/husband knows and ignores it? Do you consider it cheating then? I guess I really don’t. Because cheating implies that there was lying involved. There ain’t no lying involved with Kate and William. She knows what’s up.
I was watching Chris Rock on youtube–what he said about Clinton and Lewinsky. That he didn’t feel sorry for Hilary because she knew–something along the lines of ‘come on ladies, you know your man. you know him better than he knows himself. and sometimes you have to save him from himself. you know if you got the crazy, need a bj every morning kind of man’, and so on….
I mean, at this point, it’s like Scandal. I don’t feel bad for Mellie. Because she only got into a snit that Fitz was sleeping with/in love with Olivia–when he didn’t want to be married to Mellie anymore. Same with Kate. If she ever gets upset about Will being the D-O-G that he is…..I’ll feel bad for her kids. But I won’t feel sorry for her. She went into it with her eyes wide open.
Virgilia
Hmm… Great side topic!
It would still be cheating assuming it went against your specific wedding vows. Some vows only ask for monogamy from the bride or only state a legal bond without being exclusive partners.
Otherwise it’s just acceptable cheating.
Kate knew the score. I don’t think she likes it though, but at this point only wants him to keep it secretive. Kind of like that break up they had where Kate got angry William was seen grabbing feels. Kate having said something like feeling/looking cheap with how he treated her.
Will she demand he give up his side pieces? No. Is she ok with him having side pieces? No. So, yes. It’s cheating imo based on both their behaviors from the last 10+ years and confirmed stories vs. rumored behavior.
VC : i’m with Chris Rock. If you go into a relationship with all the cards on the deck, it isn’t cheating. It’s an arrangement. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t hurt, but it’s an arrangement all the same.
IF you enter a relationship without the cards on the deck, and you then find out later, then that’s lying and cheating etc.
This applies even if you have an open relationship. I’m pretty sure that even with open relationships, there are rules. Once the rules are broken, then the ‘vows’ of the relationship have been broken.
Finally, I really feel that everyone decides what they can live with. Some people – Gaby Union as an example, can apparently live with a baby from a side piece during the relationship whereas others bail out at the first sign of trouble of any kind.
@VG That is an interesting topic. One of my boyfriend was a serial cheater. We lived together and I saw his messages and stuff but for the life of me I couldn’t bring myself to care. I was in double major program, courses were too hard, I did not have time to go out and find someone new and I liked my stable sex life and I was too comfortable to move out. It was cheating because he thought he was been discreet. But if he knew it as well would it be cheating? It is a hard question.
LAK
Some women really can’t live with a side piece having a baby. Or cheating. Something about marriage sets off a swtch in the mind that it’s an instant fix. He’s yours and they will never be his wife because you are. Once the shine of a marriage certificate wears off they realize it’s not a fix at all and it still hurts.
That’s my opinion anyways. It’s not often you hear of couples that have/had major issues/fights/breakups, get married and are able to stay together.
I’m sure some do, but it’s not often I’ve known this.
@FLORC
Well anyone can lie in their wedding vows. Even if you stand before Jesus/God/Buddha/Mohammed/whoever–you know, and your spouse knows (generally, unless you’re REALLY sneaky) if you have it in you to be faithful. It doesn’t matter what the other person promised you, if you know that they’re a cheater, then you have no one to blame but yourself when they eventually cheat on you as a married person.
So I wouldn’t feel sorry for you. At all. I mean–like Chris Rock said…..you know if you husband (I guess keeping it with the theme) is a ‘crazy, need a bj every hour type of man’…and you know when he isn’t getting that from YOU.
And ooh–I hear you on the side pieces getting pregnant.
But I always found it interesting…like with politicians. Whenever we rail on them–how do we know that their wives either don’t care (and are doing the same) or have just accepted it because they want $$$ or power? They will cut you with a diamond dagger before they dump the guy that cheats on them.
I guess I’m interested because I just can’t even fathom that. I would just FREAK out. I’m more worried about disease, etc. So many people these days are dumbasses, don’t wear condoms, etc.
VC: I see Hilary Clinton as the type of wife you are describing ie would rather cut you than admit that she married a wrongun as far as romantic notions are concerned, AND she doesn’t care about him in that way beyond what he can do for her materially – in her specific case, political ambitions.
I remember a freeze frame taken from that infamous ‘I didn’t have sex with that woman’ conference in which you can see a Hilary standing behind him. Her face was scary – it gave one the shivers about what she could do to ANYONE who dared contradict what was being said by Bill (or their version of events).
What’s frequently forgotten is that she was in charge of his PR campaign where they hired James Cargill of the ‘if you run a dollar bill through a trailer park you never know what you’ll pick up’ in reference to what the team (or media) called Bimbo explosions.
She’s since learnt to school her facial expressions, but my goodness she was scary back then.
If they have an arrangement, then I hope she can have a side piece, too.
That being said, I really want to know what story they’re trying to deflect.
VC
Regarding vows. If you don’t take the vows seriousy and just aproach them as words you blindly need to repeat you’re still a liar. I guess if both parties enter into the union knowing being faithful isn’t acceptable for 1 or both it’s understood and accepted. Let’s call it lying to guests and family then. Or being dishonest to a future sie piece who does have issue with sleeping with a married man. No matter how it’s presented I won’t agree with it in all forms.
LAK
It’s a bit shocking how many high powered men have wives that really hold the power or balls rather. Not that a woman could be that powerful. Only that these men have high positions and take no prisoners. Then you see their wives. These ladies are pure class, but will cut you if you cross them.
Hillary Clinton, Melinda Gates, Linda O’Leary, Tana Ramsay, Michelle Obama, Claire Underwood. All amazing strength and savvy. Even though the last one is fiction.
In response to Virginia:
As someone who is working in professional sex psychology this is an interesting question. I think it is vital for couples to say what is okay and what isn’t. For some people (I find myself in this category) their partner having sex with other people is not a huge deal. My husband and I had this conversation before we got married and I told him that provided he had safe, discreet sex with others where he doesn’t bring home any nasty diseases or knock someone up, or flaunt an affair in front of me then I really don’t care provided he comes home to me at the end of the day.
I did that for two reasons: 1) It makes having sex with others boring for him as I have taken some of the rush of having an affair out but on the same token I am fully prepared to follow through with not caring if it does happen and 2) If he does have sex with someone else, I protect myself physically and emotionally in that he now knows that not using protection will not fly and he will at least do me that courtesy and also that I won’t freak out as harshly as I would if I didn’t know at all. That’s my choice.
One of the first questions I ask people who are upset over an extramartial affair is if they had a conversation with their spouse before marriage about boundaries regarding sex with others, extramartial affairs, etc. I kind of look down pretty hard and have ZERO sympathy for anyone who hates the fact that their spouse is cheating on them if they never took the time to have a conversation about marital fidelity before they got married. It’s fine if you implement a zero tolerance policy or a don’t ask don’t tell policy in regards to sex with others but have the damn conversation.
VC: I think the political question is a fascinating one and very much case-by-case? Hillary? Totally complicit. She knew exactly who she was marrying and that he hadn’t been faithful pre-marriage either. Gennifer Flowers was a loooong relationship. Hillary saved the 1992 campaign. Where it went off the rails for them was when his zipper problem threatened his presidency and therefore her current and future prospects – that was not the deal. (Though I don’t subscribe to the simple ‘sham’ theory many do, it is way more complex than that.)
Silda Spitzer, on the other hand, I believe had no idea and had made no such deal. What Eliot was asking of the hookers (I don’t know how much I can say here without getting blocked for dirty talk) was the kind of thing I venture to suggest most women don’t find that appealing – and also posed a serious health risk to her. I think he very actively hid it and she had no reason to distrust him.
I find it all endlessly interesting. The high-powered political marriage is a unique animal. To my mind, the Obamas appear to have the healthiest in living memory. The Reagans were loving and devoted and undoubtedly faithful, but it was warped when it came to their kids in particular.
Situational morality seems to be the topic. In the royal hunts of ancient China, it was customary to drive up the game from three sides, but on the fourth the animals had a chance to run off. This custom accorded that the kill should consist only of those animals which had, so to speak, voluntarily exposed themselves. We want to same principle of freedom to be valid for life in general; that those who are meant for us will come (and stay) of their own accord. However, the cow that is not tethered, is the wanderer’s gain, and the citizen’s loss…an undeserved misfortune. When three people journey together, their number decreases by one (because jealousy arises). When a man journeys alone, he find he is certain to find a companion. A very close bond is possible only between two people. No matter how the cake is cut socially, politically, financially…a very close bond is possible only between two.
Does anyone actually know a woman who is not hurt by a cheating spouse? Hillary was gutted, as much by the cheating, as by his lying. Does one become “friends with benefits” with your spouse? No matter how the wordsmithing of marriage is twisted (in order to feel safe), we all remain vulnerable to being hurt. That is a part of the human condition.
I think the whole thing is to smooth over the “scotch eggs” scandal. Hard boiled eggs, wrapped in sausage, rolled in fried breadcrumbs … so unhealthy! Notice how all the quotes said how healthy they were eating on their date night? And dessert was just plain old vanilla ice cream and two spoons. See, they are not junk food junkies, just good, healthy eaters.
I like the way you think!
I don’t think there is a scandal to cover, I think they are just trying to build upon their brand – they are trying to put out the narrative that they are “normal” people because it works better for them. I think that they have set these images up themselves.
I’m wondering if there isn’t a story coming out about how much time they spend apart. Just a guess on my part, but it wouldn’t be difficult to document via twitter and such. Kate spends most of her time in London, shopping and grooming herself, while Will…. Well, who knows. With friends, hunting and drinking? I’ve thought for some time that they live separate lives, hence the gushing “they’re so in love, they can’t keep their hands off each other!” quotes.
Also, because of her security, the Berkshire locals probably know exactly how much time Kate spends with Mummy there. On a “much needed break”, natch.
The locals have to be keeping track. Weren’t freedom of information requests about increased security costs in Berkshire denied? That would have given a good estimate of the long stretches of time they spend apart.
There are also several sets of photos of the nanny with PGTips published in the last week. The interaction in those photos doesn’t make her look like mummy’s very occasional help. As someone wrote a few posts ago, the fake image of the full-time SAHM is falling apart. And after 13 years of no PDA, we should believe William is all over her in a public place? Not bloody likely.
W&K not protesting any of these photos or stories means something is up.
George with his nanny is 1 huge bag of giggles.
It’s worth noting they are so against PDA, these photos during their private time, and shots of George without Kate that yes. Something is up. It’s a big scandal too to make William ok with this kind of photog attention. Staged or not, h hates it.
I just saw those pics and they are actually very cute. But yes the interaction in those photos does show that the nanny’s more involved than what the PR has said. And they made yet another trip without him by all accounts, but hey at least they stayed in the country this time so that’s something…I guess.
In the meantime I’m making some gourmet popcorn in anticipation of a potential Royal scandal. Who wants some?
Major popcorn fan here! You prep the popcorn. I’m constructing new tin foil fascinators for all royalloonies.
And should this simply be a turn around for the couple and no news is being covered up? That’s good too. I’m too cynical at this point to believe that though.
I agree with everyone saying “something is up” , William seems to be doing some PR Premeptive strike. IMO
They were supposedly all lovey dovey on their date night…yet ….when a couple days later when they were spotted at the station with lupo William looked miserable, his face looked angry. Kate didn’t look happy at all. Something seemed off with he and Kate.
Also …Carole putting in the recent appearance at a wedding…not sure if that’s unusual…maybe not……..but
Is something going on that all of them are bracing for some news or scandal coming?
she looks so much younger here, i think they shopped her in from a 10 yr old picture and he ate ice cream (something about the ice cream details makes me doubt the whole thing) with a random
Millie McIntosh was on a “posh” reality show, Made in Chelsea. Most of the cast members are heirs to something or other. One of the guys is the heir to the McVities biscuit fortune and Millies family owned the Quality Street brand of sweets. They have legit money and do the show for an excuse to have extravagant parties. It’s kind of hilarious.
I LOVED that show. It’s ridiculous and so dramatic. And staged of course. Say what you will about the people on that show, they do have style. Her makeup is always flawless.
MiC just makes me laugh (in a good way). All the drama and all the things mark-Francois says. They’re actually in New York filming
I lived on McVities wheat biscuits when I lived in London, circa 1980!
Made in chelsea is a lot of fun. What makes it different than most US reality shows is that they are 100% up front about the fact that 99% of the story lines are made up. They call is “scripted reality” over there — and M.I.C. is hysterical, because it is so dramatic!
I dint think he’s cheating. They are responding to the outcry from the public who thinks we don’t have enough pix of them.
But how does that explain shots of George with his nanny while staying some distance away from the couple. Before George was offlimits. Goes double for George with his nanny.
Cheating isn’t the only explanation of things, you know? There are many more simple less exciting reasons for why people do what they do.
MaryShaw
Then please explain and cite past behavior to support your theories.
I’ll have an open mind.
@FLORC I don’t think you do have an “open mind”, otherwise you wouldn’t gone to one conclusion and stuck by it.
MaryShaw
Think my bias strong enough to blind future opinions. I don’t think that should stop you from reinforcing your points if you feel you are viewing this article from an angle we’re not seeing. I’ve been wrong before and do admit it. I’ve also heard out opinions at length and had great debates. Please don’t assume my mind is made up and cannot ever be changed.
You only stated your opinion. I asked for how you came to that opinion. If you had points that lead you to your conclusion. if you won’t share that’s fine. Just don’t say it’s because i’m close minded.
Here’s my theory, and it’s not cheating. Ever since Letizia became queen of Spain in June, Waity has upped her scrutiny of everything Letizia does because she wants what Leti has. Of course, Leti does everything 100 times better than Waity, especially WORK, but also her love life is 100 times better than Waity’s. Waity has watched how close and sincerely loving Felipe and Letizia are in public, and she wants that too — or at least the appearance of it, because that’s as close as she’s going to get.
Oooh Charlie, you might be on to something here!!!
Also, Princess Charlene of Monaco is pregnant and looking absolutely gorgeous (as always) – maybe they’re a bit put out that she might be the focus of all the photographers and tabloids once the new heir is born?
Plus, Princess Mary of Denmark has been in the press a lot lately with her gorgeous family. Some people say she and Frederick seem distant; I couldn’t disagree more – in all the photos the children are happy, he is gorgeous, she is stunning … she was papped going to a One Direction concert with her kids one week; in Greenland on holiday with her family the next; plus there were photos of her with all her family … she really is absolutely stunning and so obviously in the hearts of a lot of people … unlike surly Kate.
Kate had a face like thunder in those railway station shots. And why wasn’t William, or the protection officers, carrying one, or both of her bags?
Maybe they’re just renovating more and more … and more … that hasn’t been reported … maybe that’s the “scandal” … four million pounds extra for gold plated toilets or something.
I think they’ve always enjoyed the country a lot more than the city. When they were in Wales, they were out and about pretty regularly and the locals didn’t gossip about them to the press, so maybe they’re just a lot more comfortable in a place where the waitress isn’t selling a cell phone pic to the media.
I agree somewhat. Kate was seen very often (and more often than not) at her family’s home than their Wales cottage. When this was harder to ignore they gave several reasons why Kate was no longer staying in Wales.
Tanna was all over this.
I just think it’s to counteract all the criticism of their housing, and the ambulance job.
ITA. They desperately need to seem ‘normal’ to everyone and what better way than these ‘candids’? I think it’s all staged. There’s no way it can’t be.
I also think they’re trying to play people to think another kid is on the way, what with the ‘we’re so normal and so in love’ stuff. PG is basically their only saving grace and they know it. Be prepared for them to play this stuff out until it’s confirmed Kate’s pregnant again.
I think this is a bunch of meh. It’s hard for Will to have a fit about candids when they aren’t doing any work. Complaining about these shots invites criticism he’d rather avoid.
That may be a reason. Maybe William finally realized that he has no room to complain. He finally realized the harsh criticism for his actions. That would be nice.
I have to agree with everyone else here – there is something salacious coming – expect more of these ‘candids’ over the next few days/weeks. It’s not just about countering the bad press they’ve been getting over their lack of public duties. The press have likely caught him straying again and is probably the only reason he hasn’t chucked a hissy over the pap photo’s of them and PGTips. Wills is a lot like his father in many ways.
And I have to agree with Millie – Kate needs to start dressing like a 30 somthing yr old not a middle aged mother of 4.
Hey, I only WISH I could afford to dress like she does, haha!
Something is up. William is a sour puss about his privacy, so the fact that these pics and those of George & Nanny Marie were allowed to go to press without any fuss, means he needs them to distract from something he and/or Kate have done, will be doing.
+10000
Yes, William is trying to distract from what’s coming. Maybe?
I’d be very surprised if he was cheating on her, that would take lots of effort and I just don’t see him having the energy for that. I could see them living apart, though. Who would want to live with either of them! LOL. Something is “off” about their relationship and that’s why they bring up these lovey stories about them from time to time.
LOL! Yeah, Will definitely doesn’t take his royal duties seriously enough to have a mistress.
guffaw!
What!?! I honestly had no idea he fooled around, I’ve always gotten a genuine love kind of vibe from them, maybe I’m just blind, lol. I love them together, I figured he wouldn’t mess around because of what his parents went through, and in the candid shots Will always seems very affectionate towards her. I’m bummed thinking about him cheating, say it ain’t so!
There’s actually no evidence that he does fool around; I think a lot of people would just be happier if he did. Regular happily married couple isn’t exciting enough, I guess.
I think he saw his mother driven over the edge by his father’s cheating and suffered through a lot of crap at school because of it. I think he waited so long to get married just so that he’d be sure he wasn’t that kind of guy.
Robn, did you know that most girls (at least the ones we know about publicly) broke up with him for cheating?
The dreadful Penny Junor said he was afraid he couldn’t commit to one woman for life as one of the reasons he ‘tested’ Kate by being repeatedly unfaithful and she was being complimentary about him on that point.
His parents’ example clearly didn’t teach him any lessons.
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/features/2010/12/william-and-kate-201012
That link I posted is an excerpt from a book from one the official sycophants. Virtually everyone who has talked confirmed that Will has cheated on Kate several times.
(“Reply” button is in the wrong place!):
XANTHA – wow; thanks for posting that link.
I heard from a very good source that William had his heart set on marrying Isabella Colthorpe but she turned him down flatly. Charles was even quoted on record as saying she had his approval. They didn’t date for very long but he was absolutely infactuated with her.
There were rumours about Kate being absolutely awful to Kate’s ex Cressida Bonas, Isabella’s half-sister, for this reason … who knows if it’s true or not.
When you marry someone, you also marry their family … I pity anyone that is stuck with Carole, Pippa and James for family. The father seems okay.
Maybe she is pregnant.
For all of those people shocked at the idea of William cheating… O RLY?
http://www.celebitchy.com/349640/prince_william_went_boar_hunting_in_spain_with_his_ex-girlfriend_jecca_craig/
Kaiser, I’m shocked you brought this up. Shocked. And snickering.
Oh come on, going on a trip with a dozen or more people, one of whom is somebody you might or might not have dated while you were single, does not mean you cheated on your spouse. These people all run in very small circles; everybody’s ex ends up married to some other friend from school.
I have no idea whether he cheats or not, and at this point I’d tend to say he doesn’t. Doesn’t mean he won’t, but it’s going to take more evidence to prove it than being on a trip with a crowd.
Robn, you make a very good point, except that the Middletons via a conduit referred to the lady in the picture on this very specific occasion as William’s Camilla – a reference to Charles’s Camilla and their relationship!!
And wasn’t Jecca the only female on that hunting trip? If I were Kate, the alarm bells would be ringing loud and clear over that scenario if no other lady formed part of the group.
I think it is clear that Jecca means a great deal to William. What it was in the past, is now, or will be in the future who knows? But she IS a non-negotiable in his life.
Could you please explain to me Jecca’s and Will’s relationship. I don’t much about them.
Neither do I. Isn’t it possible he is simply friends with his exes? I am with a few and trust me there is NO sex involved.. This isn’t like a Zoe Kravitz/michael Fassbender casual hookup thing. I agree with the above, Wills is too prudish to me to have side pieces, but I could be wrong.
Maybeiamcrazy: William met Jecca in his gap year when he went to Kenya to work on her family’s conservation reserve/park. By all accounts he got on very well with her and her family. And he is very close to all of them.
The first the public heard of her was his 21st birthday at which she was guest of honour despite already being in a relationship with Kate who was also present.
He has remained very close to Jecca and her family who he visits almost every year.
We always complain about his general apathy, but the few things he seems passionate about seem to have tentative ties to Jecca and her family eg
1. his passion for conservation of the African Rhino – Jecca’s family conservation park started out as a Rhino conservation park,
2. halting poachers – poaching activity has increased in Kenya and a rhino on the park was killed for it’s horn last year,
3. Kenya in general – guess who lives in Kenya on and off?
4. Tusk charity – Jecca is on the board of the charity which is probably the only patronage that William seems to support on a regular basis. To be fair he also seems active with Centrepoint, formerly his mother’s charity, so it could be a coincidence.
Idle gossip seems to have these two circling each other without quite stepping over the line for years, but Tanna referring to Jecca as William’s Camilla implies it’s not as platonic as we all think it is.
Jecca is the only woman in William’s life whose reputation he had the palace defend when rumours surfaced about their relationship. He never defended Kate until the engagement and even then I think this is more a Palace effort than William feeling particularly chivalrous towards his wife.
Thanks LAK. I wonder why they could not work it out. Kate probably knows if their relationship is not platonic. It would be interesting to see how BRF would handle with Will’s and his mistres’ pictures being released. Not that I wish it on them. If they both know where they stand, it is fine.
Maybeiamcrazy/LAK
Did the public not know of Jecca earlier? Didn’t William hold up with Jecca for 2 weeks when he was 19?20? while rumors of an engagement swirled? Later saying it was all a joke?
And wasn’t it confirmed via Katie Nicholls Kate confronted William about his visits to Jecca and insisted on joining him to put her mind at ease? Or soemthing very close to that.
Jecca looks to be very much William’s type. At least regarding his exs. Tall, thin, brunettes, involved with charities and the upper crust lifestyle. I would not be shocked if they were a thing once. And while she has since had relationships/engagements i bet they could have carried on some heavy flirting and we’d never know
@Florc I can only speak for myself. I did know Jecca as an ex girlfriend/old fling, I had no idea about the extent of their relationship. I still don’t think they are having a passionate affair. It is probably because I cannot imagine Will being passionate about anything. But maybe they get on well, have tons of mutual friends and hook up sometimes. It is reasonable IMO.
I believe he cares about Jecca deeply.
I always found it perplexing that when Jecca broke her engagement suddenly, her press release made a point of saying there was a NO third party involved.
I think if William ever hooked up with Jecca again in a romantic way and she truly wanted him, it would be over for Kate.
Maybe
I agree. Friends, connections, hook up on occasion. They did spend loads of time together in their younger years. Not just as lusty youths, but also bonding on preservation and the Kenyan lands.
Pager
Are you speaking of Jecca’s recent engagement ending? Recent being within the year I think. If so, I completely believe the reason given. She wasn’t going to move out of her area. Relocating is a deal breaker for some. Or can be 1 issue too much.
Sometimes relationships just end without a 3rd party.
I just want to add that not only was Jecca Craig the guest of honour at William’s 21st Birthday party but that he made it a South African Safari themed party, in honour of Jecca’s family background. Jecca’s parents are wealthy conservationists, who at that time ran a 55,000 acre conservancy in Kenya. William spent some of his gap year there in 2001 and he and Jecca became so close it was reported that they were even in a “pretend engagement”. Later that year, September 2001, WIlliam started at St. Andrew’s. By all accounts william and Kate ran around in the same circles but William had yet to single kate out. In fact he was dating a girl called Carly Massy-Birch, who had the distinction of being voted “best bum”. It wasn’t until March 2002 when Kate made sure she was noticed on that runway. She obviously made the most of her moment, as by September 2002, William and Kate had moved into a student house (with 2 other flat mates).
By June 2003, when William turned 21, I think it fair to say that they had already been intimate for some time. It was reported that Kate fully expected that William would make some sort of public gesture that would acknowledge her as his GF. The fact that they lived together and were intimate was something of an open secret amongst most of their peers at St. Andrew’s. Instead, he humiliates her by throwing the themed party and having Jecca as the guest of honour. He also gave an interview to mark the occasion of his 21st BD and insisted that he did NOT have a Steady GF. That was a veritable slap in the face for Kate. So great was the speculation of William’s special regard for Jecca that in 2003, Prince Charles’ staff had to release a public statement specifically denying a romance between Jecca and William. At that point, she was the only girl to have inspired that kind of public announcement.
In 2008, he also chose to attend the wedding of Jecca’s brother OVER the wedding of his own cousin, Peter Phillips. And he attended alone, without Kate.
All of that makes the comparison of Jecca= William’s Camilla seem very plausible.
It was reported that his obvious closeness with Jecca made Kate very insecure and jealous.
Becks + 10000
I really dont think William has a mistress. I think he actually resents his father for his cheating ways and is unlikely (yet) to cheat on his wife. I mean, they have a toddler and are trying for more. I think they are just putting up a united front.
@JessSaysNo says:
I agree. I think he realizes what his mother went through. Because of that I doubt he will ever cheat on Kate.
He’s his fathers son. William has been caught in public talking down about Kate too many times to think he has enough respect for her to not cheat.
He also inherited his father’s sense of entitlement. And Let’s face it, his father is a man, and so is he, so he can relate. He has far more in common with his father than his late mother, whom he lost early. And while I’m certain that he hated it was done to his mother (or maybe that his mother also did cheat, you never know), when it comes to Kate, it’s simply a case of “she’s not my mother” and that age old male privilege that’s been around for thousands of years that so many men still hold on to.
We know he has no problems with cheating, and I’m certain it’s as long as he’s the one doing the cheating, not his wife.
FLORC – I missed this! What did he say about her? Was it before they were married?
I don’t buy the “he’s a man” response to cheating. Not all men cheat. Certainly, not all marriages are happy but NOT all men cheat and its not OK to say “he’s a man” so as to expect or condone cheating.
I also want to know how we know he “has no problems with cheating” am I missing some sort of story or report where he has cheated or admitted to it?
Green Girl
Yes, before they were married. While they were still on and off. Harry, and his circle of friends mocked Kate and her family. Their limited funds. Desires to be seen as higher classed.
Some things he said or was in close association with those who said them… Doors To manual, Calling her a Limpet (Harry). A mollusk that clings to things. William jumping on a table at a pub declaring his freedom after the 2006 breakup (breakup before engagement). Allegedly, Kate told William to stop messing around on her and he said something to the affect of he can do what he wants/don’t you know who i am. I think this was confirmed by a Kate insider, but have to dive into some Tanna/Nicholls archives.
Point is he didn’t exactly defend Kate at all.
JessSaysNo
Agree!
Not all men are cheaters. What sets William apart is he was raised to see cheating as hurtful, but also the norm and acceptable. Charles didn’t just cheat with Camilla. He had other mistresses and Diana approved and disapproved of them.
He lives a life where his indiscretions are covered up. He has/had protection from the press. He had few consequences regarding cheating.
It’s expected he has or will have mistresses.
And William’s ex’s hae all said he’s got a wandering eye. Even Kate’s fashion show walk was while William was seeing another.
Outside of that he was caught in a few pubs grabbing feels. And on campus it was known he got around single or not.
FLORC, thank you for the information. I’d heard the doors-to-manual insult, but I always thought it was William telling his friends to knock it off. UGH, that’s gross.
I have a question. I know we americans think that sensitive, caring William grew up believing cheating is hurtful because of the experience his mother had. But, isn’t it also said that the upper class in Britain have a well established attitude about the appropriateness of mistresses. I remember hearing that people in Charles circle thought Diana held an immature, idealist view in expecting her husband to be faithful to her – that that just wasn’t the way it was done in those circles and that that should have been well known to her. Am I wrong? I too think it is possible that William, being raised around that culture, would develop that sense of entitlement. He certainly demonstrates it in other areas of his life.
One quick addition. I think the stories told that Harry agreed with William’s friends who called her “The Limpet,” not that Harry thought of that name. He was dating Chelsy at the time, and she was incredibly discreet. Middleton was seen to be openly glorying in the attention of job of “royal girlfriend” with the freebie clothes and demanding the royal discount (ex. Audi lease).
Didn’t William’s circle of friends also say of Kate and Pippa, “We call them the Wisteria sisters – they smell very sweet and are very, very good climbers” (or something to that effect?
That whole hoohaa over whether or not William “helped” the Middle”tans” buy their new mansion in the country was interesting … of course he did! When he turned 30 he inherited the sum his mother left him and there’s just no way Carole would’ve been happy to live in the house they previously did after the wedding … the reason for needing the large mansion set on acres of land was “security”, of course.
On the subject of clothes, I’m just stating this in case people aren’t aware – her whole wardrobe is funded by Prince Charles (why, oh why, can’t he buy her a decent pair of jeans!).
Charlotte
I think the press gave the name Wisteria Sisters.
Nota
Agree. Harry spoke it, but maybe was the originator.
@Florc I keep learning new stuff in this thread today! How do we know this ‘limpet’ thing? Mocking Kate’s limited fund is just disgusting. As if they’d have a larger fund if public stopped paying them.
Maybe
The limpet thing has been out there for years now. I want to say it came out through one of those insiders to the royals journalist. Like Katie Nicholls, but maybe not her.
And yes. William is 1 to talk about funds considering how the lifestyle is supported.
Gail
I would only be parroting what others have said here regarding aristos and their mistresses.
It’s acceptable if the wife approves of the mistress. I guess to keep the peace. Example cited was Diana Charles Camilla, and Kanga. Diana hated Camilla because Camilla carried on with Charles without consulting Diana. And Diana was fine with Kanga and Charles. Diana became even quite friendly with Kanga while she was her husbands mistress.
And poor Kanga ended up in a nursing home well before her time, stuck in a wheelchair with little or no visitors. Some ‘lover’ Charles turned out to be.
Funny, ’cause I was under the impression they’re affecionate all the time. There are plenty of photos and videos showing that, I would have been surpised by the opposite.
And, photos with an ex mean nothing, unless they show the parties in the middle of smooching. They are proof of nothing, unless a person is determined to see things that aren’t there.
There is little photo evidence of public displays of affection. Him poking her in the back to get her to move in the correct direction doesn’t count.
No one gave Jessica’s presence a thought until the middletons via their pap conduit pointedly referred to her as William’s Camilla.
That could mean all sorts of things such as non negotiable per @notasugar’s comment through to they might be fooling around in the old fashion sense, but perhaps they had a point to make which would have been the inevitable conclusion given the history of Charles, Diana and Camilla.
Consequently, I doubt anyone will ever read Jessica and William’s friendship as innocent fun.
I found it telling when Jecca broke her engagement to marry and the press statement made a point of saying No Third Party was involved. It was as if someone wanted to make a point that a certain someone wasn’t involved in her decision.
And…Remember how quickly a William had to take Kate on a romantic holiday after his hunting trip with Jecca. I do feel she does worry Kate, even if the friendship with a William is innocent.
When they were in Australia earlier this year, they seemed awfully distant. A few times she went to say something to him, only for him to ignore her (he was in earshot) and turn his head, or walk off.
He’s also extremely arrogant. Sorry, but he is. A gorgeous little boy … aged about two or three, not much older … was at the front of one of the crowds, waving his flag but stopped just before they came along. When William saw him just standing there, he grabbed it from him and said “When you see me, you wag this flag because I’m very important – see?” LOL – good grief. (Oh, and the little guy bawled his eyes out after he moved along … the scary man was too much for him!).
It seems early for a mistres scandal. I thought the side pieces were on hiatus until after the spare, leaving a solid window of time to build the fairytale image before shattering it.
Oh, so maybe that’s why there’s such a large time lapse between marriage and the spare. 🙂 They usually have the first one within a year of the wedding, and the second soon after. By this point in their marriage (three years), Diana & Charles already had two babies.
Charles did not wait until the spare ASAIK. Maybe this rule is for women to make sure the baby is a rightful heir/spare.
Blimey he’s not my idea of the serial shagger….lacks vim. But he *is* so very detached, kinda glazed over, to the extent that you could picture him having other liaisons out of laziness! Rather than put up any resistance, or going so far as to act honourably, I could certainly see him drift sideways easily…..and I should imagine Kate is well aware of his essential spinelessness and hopes he’s maturing pdq.
I base all this on very little info of course, but something about Wills is familiar, as a type, and this type causes pain through mere half-heartedness.
On a totally separate note, I LOVE Will in his glasses!
Some of the posters on this thread have very vivid, and somewhat spiteful, imaginations, reminds me of a certain other blog that we don’t mention the name of which “reports” on a certain British actor.
How so?
Please elaborate on your claims here.
A lot of the talk is just plain guess work – if you are going to slag someone off at least come up with the evidence,
A married couple go out for a meal together and immediately it is what are they trying to hide.?
Give me a break it is like the worst kind of tabloid journalism.
Joe
There’s a lot that we reference here that has been fact checked and confirmed here time and time again. At this point we may appear to gloss over it, but it’s to avoid being longwinded explaining things that are understood.
For instance. This couple is famous for avoiding PDA and William has actively sued and threatened the press for taking candid shots of them/him. Suddenly there’s no threats. And that only happens when shots are preapproved and staged. Also, George has been said to never leave Kate’s side. He’s the reason she’s cut back on her duties. Also, he is said to only have limited contact with nannies and Kate is the one who makes him smile. Nannies are characterized as more of strangers from the tones of the articles. And if he’s with a nanny William has again threatened the press that posted them. That lead to nannies being edited out of photos or photos completely removed.
Things i’ve stated actually happened. So, when we see George with his nanny looking comfortable and Will/Kate in candid (exclusive/staged) shots it’s extremely out of character. Not that they can’t get some ice cream and have date night. More that they actively avoid photos like this and now have heavy PR working. So, we ask… Why? What is happening in the backround? Nothing maybe. Time will tell.
i dont think these pics could counteract a picture of him and a girl. people expect you to eat with your wife but not to hurt boar with a (imo homely like father like son) piece of a$$
i do think they are a good antidote for something $ related. i think all this spending is coming home to roost somehow. people have to use 1 brain cell to process the spending info while a picture is processed instantaneously. for a cheating scandal, he’s have to suit up every day for a while and do actual royal duties.
and im into either of them so i have no horse in this race. just my 2 cents.
I think a lot of posters are correlating a history. In the past there has been a huge outcry from the prince over photos of private moments. There has been an expectation that unauthorized photos will not be published and they are entitled to a certain level of protection and courtesy. Yet suddenly we have a flurry of intimate photos as well as photos that don’t support the story line of Kate as a hands on mom. There has been plenty of time for a reaction from the royals and yet there is nothing. This is a significant change in their approach.
Additionally, there has been a correlation between happy family/royal duty/hard worker stories right before they make a move that shows quite the opposite. The other ploy they frequently use is misdirection, typically pointing out something Harry has done so no one will pay attention to them for a news cycle.
Given this history with the media, these photos would naturally make someone wonder what shoe is going to drop because there is no other logical reason for the release of these photos without protest. Yes, there is a lot of speculation of what that something is and some of it may be way off base, but speculation in general is not unwarranted in my opinion.
Joespider: what Lucinda said.
From the past, a very similar set up happened when Kate’s uncle Gary was exposed as a druggie with a slice of access to underage prostitutes. William and Kate arranged for details of a date to be printed together with video of the two snogging which was significant because William’s public support took the sting out of the brewing scandal.
+1 what LAK said.
Such cynical snogging!
I don’t think he’s cheating now, he just seems way too boring to cheat (but I guess that’s what they want us to think?). And while I’m the first to condemn cheating in a mature, committed relationship, I think it’s unfair to cast judgment on him for what he may or may not have done in his early 20s. They dated through their entire college years, and I don’t think their marriage would work now if he (or she) hadn’t had a chance to explore a little bit. That said, if my significant other brought an ex girlfriend on a hunting trip, the boars wouldn’t be the only things getting slaughtered.
I don’t think he’s cheating yet in a physical manner, but I believe that he may be deeply connected emotionally to Jecca on a level that is uncomfortable for Kate.
Then he may be an emotional cheater, which some women consider worse.
Having a mistress is like a royal duty for a Prince so William would never!
A very good point! LOL.
Now that’s funny.
She managed to keep her hands off him long enough to play with her hair, lol
Who plays with their hair in their 30’s??
Welll…in all fairness…I do… I admit, it’s a bad habit. I’ll also admit I do even weirder things than Waity.
And I don’t like Waity one bit, for the record.
I do too, but it’s an OCD thing.
Why did she go out with wet hair? Is that a normal thing for Kate?
Did the scandal hit , while she was showering and she didn’t have time to dry her hair?
And it was wet hair, no less. Ah, the little details.
As a married woman I would hate if people speculate whether my husband is cheating on me or not. I feel for Kate.
Usual Autumn pattern: spate of engagements and disappear. I think these photos and stories are PR, but not related to Jecca. Throw out a few candids of the “loving couple” and the “happy baby” before going dark. One engagement next week, their Invictus appearance, her two day vacation in Malta, the private wedding in Italy, and they’ll disappear into publicly-funded “private life” for 5 years.
I think they’re getting ready to announce a second pregnancy, thus will have to cancel/postpone some of Kate’s scheduled upcoming work functions. This is just a way to take some of the heat off the (potential) backlash that would come with that announcement of her reduced schedule.
It’s hilarious to see the comments here, then go out into the real world where most people think Will and Kate are perfectly fine and classy.
I side with real world people more than internet comments.
But it’s many of the people here who have followed the romance since the start, whereas the World for the most part didn’t follow the Will, Kate relationship from day 1. Most of the world didn’t know much of Kate until the engagement and then PR took over retooling the image of the romance and of Kate. For instance, Kate partied for years, almost a decade of nonstop partying, she was a party girl,on a weekly,sometimes nightly basis in and out of nightclubs, so did William and looked sloshed, drunk on many occasions leaving clubs, but to hear their PR now, that time never existed.
Do real world people even care about these two? The only conversations I have about them -and the only interest I seem in them – are in internet land.
William did not complain or issue threats about the photos of Kate and George en route to Mustique in January. I agree with others that candid shots seem to be often arranged to re-direct from negative Cambridge news, but I’m on the fence about these dinner photos. Time will tell.
Kate perpetually dresses like a flight attendant. In that blue outfit she looks like one for KLM. Those nude heels she relentlessly also contribute to the chicken-or-pasta?-chic she loves to go for. HOW she ends up on best-dressed lists amazes me. And about the lovey-dovey reports, hmmm odd.
The red Alexander McQueen outfit Kate wore off the plane in NZ was so stewardishy, that my first thought on seeing it, was that Carole had finally landed.
My first thought was, “Oh, look, she’s flashed everyone again.”
PS. I especially appreciate Millie Mackintosh’s observation that she should wear bright lipstick…it would look so nice! Only if she tones down the eyeliner, of course.
hell yes on the eye makeup but sometimes bright lipstick makes thin lips even thinner
What a weird story for these two. I feel suspicious… Kate’s pregnant and is cancelleing the solo trip for this month. 😉 There could be no ill intentions here on their part though. Honestly Will & Kate are pretty flaky when it comes to royal duties but there’s something I like about them. I kind of feel bad for them. People giving quotes to tabloid rags is a sucky thing to do. I can’t believe that somebody was watching them that closely to see what they were eating and doing. Creepy! On the cheating thing.. I doubt it. If he is cheating on her, it’s incredibly stupid on his part. You would think after the whole Charles & Diana debacle that still haunts Charles after all these years, William would be intelligent enough to not cheat.
Wills and Kate have always shown affection to each other so I really don’t get some of the comments on here.
Express always every other day do a Diana front page. The paper has always has an obession for her so they now are starting on the duke and duchess.
If you look at wills background you could understand why he doesn’t like the press.
LOLOLOLOL that made me laugh so hard and I didn’t understand any of it
That’s sweet.
Why does he always wear those horrible, overly baggy, jeans? Yuck!!
And why does she always wear those too-tight, too-short, jeggings? Yuck (again)!!
I doubt he has a mistress – he’s too in love with himself for that sort of carry-on.
I’m still left wondering why she didn’t attend the posh dinner at the palace that was being held in – I think – Ralph Lauren’s honour – you know, the one where several Hollywood celebs and the likes of Kate Moss turned up … William said Kate was at home with George. If she’d been pregnant, and very ill with morning sickness – as was the general consensus at the time – then that would’ve been understandable … but she obviously isn’t pregnant, so what’s up???
That article in the Daily Mail with the cousin of Kate’s who has her nose out of joint as the Middle”tans” have ignored her and her family, was such a hoot.
What a vile lot you are – leave them alone
She looks like she is 52, not 32 – the bags, the deep clown lines, the sagging jowls. She needs to stop drinking, lols. Or she should hydrate better. Her mother ought to know better and give her some good motherly advice.