Am I the only one staring at Benedict Cumberbatch’s bum? I know I’m supposed to be thinking about Alan Turing and WWII and the Oscar race, but now all I can think about is Cumby’s tweedy bum. Harvey Weinstein is running a brilliant campaign, eh? Vote for Cumby’s Tweedy Bum!! As for The Imitation Game, Benedict spoke to Vanity Fair briefly while he was at TIFF. It’s a nice clip. What self-respecting Cumberbitch asks Benedict about his favorite cheese though?
More Bendy news… he’s about to begin filming on Richard III, with Dame Judi Dench playing Cecily, Duchess of York, in the continuation of the BBC’s Hollow Crown series. The production begins next week and it will probably go on for the next… six months or so. Bendy was the one to approach Judi – publicly! – and ask her to be part of it. As it turns out, he’s known Judi all of his life.
Dame Judi Dench agreed to star opposite Benedict Cumberbatch in the BBC’s Richard III after the Sherlock actor propositioned her during a Shakespeare masterclass at the Hay Festival. However, Mandrake can disclose that the pair are in fact old friends.
“I knew him when he was a little boy at prep school before he went on to Harrow,” Dame Judi tells me. “His mother, Wanda Ventham, was at the Royal Central School of Drama a year ahead of me.”
“He is a true gentleman and a thoroughly good actor, which helps,” she says. “We start on Monday and it’s a huge project, six months in filming.”
Meanwhile, the actress says it is unlikely she will attend the Oscars next year. Despite being nominated for the Best Actress award, Dame Judi Dench was notably absent at this year’s awards after filming in India for the sequel to The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel clashed with the ceremony. Now, the actress, who turns 80 this year, confides that she is in no hurry to make an appearance.
“No, I don’t think I’ll attend,” she tells me. “I don’t imagine so. I mean I love them but I never like to speculate on these things.”
I always sort of wondered how Judi treated the younger actors she’s often paired with, if it’s “motherly” or something like that. It’s not. If you’ve ever seen her interact with Daniel Craig, she’s amazing. She’s flirtatious and silly and really funny. I feel like the younger men around her just love her completely.
PS… Bendy was out last night in London. You can see the pics here.
Photos courtesy of Jason Bell, The Weinstein Company, WENN.
Was the dress code “wear what you like, we’re not that arsed”?
Kits face in that first DM shot is hilarious
Fans are going nuts about his severe cut. They are panicking that his Sherlock will have short hair. It’s all quite ridiculous. It’s bound to have been cut back to go under the Richard III wig. I hope they have a better makeup team than they used on Parade’s End because the hair and makeup he had on that was awful.
They have some screwed up priorities.
I’ll be fascinated to see his Richard III.
Last one I saw was Ian McKellan’s, set in the 30s with Richard in fascist uniform.
It’s one of my forever-favourite Shakespeare plays even though I strongly dispute its version of history…..I wonder will Cumberbatch incorporate some hint of ambiguity in his portrayal, 20 yrs on from McKellan’s (brilliant) baddie? Can’t wait!
And praise from Dame Judi is praise from Caesar indeed.
I have seen three Richard 111 3 TIMES .Freeman, McKellan and Mark Rylence plus Pacino’s Looking for Richard which I really enjoyed at the time. Mark Rylence has been my favourite so far. He was nominated for a Tony award last year but did not win but won for best featured actor for his portrayal of Olivia.
He comes down into the audience at the beginning for a little one to one and politics.
I already hate the word luscious and I think if I see it ONE MORE FRICKIN’ TIME in conjunction with “Cumberburls,” I may shriek like a banshee. Hair grows back, wigs can happen…
luscious! LOL Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
@delorb: *distant banshee screeching from the Southern US* lol
Not kidding: there’s treatises going up on tumblr about the hair, and some folks are writing to Gatiss because they’re “nervous” about the filming not happening since BC cut his hair.
I agree about the hair and makeup in Parade’s End. The coloring was just all wrong.
Also, I wonder what his Richard III wig will look like.
I think they’re going to go for historical reality, especially in light of the recent discovery of RIII’s remains. He had long, straight, dark hair with bangs. That was also the look that Olivier used in his version.
That makes sense, just based on his shorter haircut, possibly to accommodate a wig.
I haven’t watched Parade’s End, either, because I just can’t get past that hair on him. It is PLATINUM BLONDE.
The coloring didn’t work on him for PI. His acting was fantastic but I kept looking at how the hair looked so fake and didn’t go with his skin tone/make up.
I think the look didn’t work because of the bleached eyebrows, the cheek fillers, wrong shade of blonde, and his makeup. The makeup looked so white on him that the rims of his eyes looked red. They managed to make the women look gorgeous but they couldn’t do any of the men right. Rupert Everett looked weird to me too.
Oh, no….the Cumbercurls/Sherlylocks are a precious thing indeed and not something to be easily dismissed!
Does Kit Harington always have that stupid look on his face. I like him, but he seems to lack different facial expressions.
he has a permanent scowl
Cause he knows nothing. But I would hit it. Repeatedly.
I literally lol’d at your Jon Snow comment.
I would probably hit it a few times, but I would hope he make a few excited faces, and not scowl at me. Or I could just put a bag over his head or one of those leather masks.
I would hit it but he has to give me a smile first.
He can scowl all he likes, I’ll come back for more.
🙂
Peter Dinklage won my heart from the first series and Kit paled in comparison
That’s a really nice poster, but the lighting is off, like he is superimposed in front of the machine instead of actually being photographed in front of it.
your’e right the lighting is off, I can’t see his bum at all…
Haha! You have your priorities in line. 😉
I think they’re trying to go for the retro movie poster aesthetic but it really does look a bit superimposed.
Agreed about the superimposed bit, but other than that the poster is excellent! I like the retro feel of it. I just hope they’ll tweak it slightly to make the border between Cumberbatch’s figure and the background a little less artificial.
It’s a very well compose poster (other than lighting and shadow in places). It leaves you curious with only a bit of information to keep you interested. I noticed a lot of movie poster designs are improving the past few years. Basically, it’s nice to see some thought put into the promotional materials that was sorely lacking years before (floaty heads in foreground, same typefaces, Red or white text, generic scenery in the background).
@Jammypants – remember when they’d line up the main cast of a movie? It was ok in small doses, like for “Scream,” but it got overused pretty quickly.
@Jammy and @Green Girl – I agree! Actually this could easily become one of my fav film posters if they slightly rework the superimposed bit.
@Green Girl, I still see some posters do that sadly, but luckily not as often.
@Innie, I think what’s off is the light shining at him from behind. The light above makes a lot of sense. It’s the lighting towards him from the back that makes it look off. The only light source in the poster is above, so to have it above and directly at looks a bit unnatural.
Speaking of poster designs, I find the Marvel ones truly awful. The Mondo posters Marvel commissions are so much better, but sadly are limited in promotion.
@jammy, oh goodness, don’t even get me started on superhero movie posters! 😀 If I had to name some fav posters, first ones that jump to mind are that Stoker’s black and white graphic poster and also the incredible Silence of the Lambs poster. Some of Filth posters really delivered, too!
I actually wasn’t too keen on the Stoker poster. The Filth ones were very amusing. I have to say, even television posters have become very high concept. I’m not a big America Horror Story fan, but their posters are very interesting. I quite like the Sons of Anarchy posters for the latest season.
@jammy, I meant this Stoker poster http://www.impawards.com/2013/stoker_xlg.html As for AHR&SoA – I agree.
We’ve got a slight dangle of the curl to the forehead with a minimalized Conan flip.
Lolz.
P.S. Judi Dench is a known liar.
That Judi Dench quote is making me guffaw. I don’t know why.
I know, it made me laugh too. I wanted to post about her being a known liar up thread, but was afraid of getting shanked by his posse.
Oooooooooh… examples? I didn’t know this about her!
You must not be familiar with mimif. It was a joke.
@Kiddo: No, no I’m not… well, darn, there goes that juicy gossip, lol.
True gentleman. Meh, I am gonna roll over to the Hiddleston side to get my freak on. Awww but I would die if a guy put his coat down for me to step over.
14 comments down and here we have Tommy name dropped, his fans just can’t resist can they??
How long until Dan Stevens or one of his super secretive girlfriends are brought up, and talked about in detail.
Oh no, I think I just open a can of worms. *Chopin begins to play*.
*Beethoven fifth symphony interrupts*
@Duri,
No they can’t. LOL
I saw an interview with Ben Whishaw (he did a two-hander with Dench in London theatre as well as Bond on film) and he said he was utterly besotted by her. Steve Coogan said much the same.
@SiXer, and she and Johnny Depp have a mutual flirtation thing going on. During Chocolat, they flirted constantly and she asked to be in the 4th Pirates movie and have a kissing scene. Judi is shaping up to be the British Betty White. More power to her.
Dame Judi is the SGF – I’m calling it now. After all, they were seen at the Hay Festival together!
I fell even more in love with her since I found out about her fondness for making (VERY) naughty needlework on film sets then giving it to co-stars. I wonder what Ben will get? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/18/judi-dench-secret-hobby_n_3460379.html
I just saw Finty Williams Judy’s daughter on stage in Wales 3 days ago. She is about 4 yrs older than Benny and has a 17 year old son. It was a JB Priestly play so a bit old fashioned but good fun.
Is anyone antique enough to remember Peter Sellers’ rendition of The Beatles’ “Hard Day’s Night”, in the style of Olivier’s exacting (Richard III) “Winter of our discontent” soliloquy?
Locate, listen, and LOL.
My Mum remembered it and played it for me when I was doing my A level English Lit, so now I’m off to YouTube to have a little giggle (and a little cry I lost my Mum too early)
Aww, I’m so sorry for your loss Frisbeejada. Cool move by your mother!
Thankx
I’ll try to link it (just to see if I can do it!)
Peter Sellers: A Hard Day’s Night
No that didn’t work so I can’t apparently
I personally would like to see a Sherlock with shorter hair. I think it’d be hot, kinda like what he had in Little Favour
It would be fun to see them shake up his image.
Yes, exactly. This is a TV show about personal growth and change above all else. It was never really about the cases/mysteries. It’s about loneliness, friendship, love, “pain, heartbreak, loss, death…” And I mean, look. When you go through emo shit, what do you do? You change your hair. I REST MY CASE
+1000
I, personally, think cumberbatch looks better with short hair.
They have to keep the somewhat iconic image (which admittedly changes with each Sherlock–originally it was the deerstalker, pipe, and pointy nose, and over the years it’s evolved) but at the same time, people DO change up their looks so a Sherlock with shorter hair might be nice to see, esp as the show is about the *characters* and not the hairdo’s.
Except the minute that they do that, all hell will break loose. He’s damned if he does and double damned if he doesn’t.
I’m a spiteful person sometimes but I admit I’d love to see him film the show, everyone goes gaga over the hair being all curly, and it’s revealed later it was a wig the entire time.
Kinda weird. Every time someone in the business has something nice to say about him people jump to point out that it’s a lie or wrong or whatever even if there’s no actual proof of that, but people who like him are grasping at straws, eh?
I liked Parade’s End. It wasn’t the best but I think there was a distinct tone they were trying for. I don’t think it worked as well as they’d hoped, but it wasn’t the worst I’ve ever seen. Could have been better. I liked all the acting though.
Don’t even talk to me about the moronic comments on his hair. I had it out with some people on tumblr over those stupid comments. I can’t wait for him to snap and just give someone the middle finger or tell them to f- off.
I grok finding the curly hair attractive but people acting like he has no bodily autonomy and “owes” them the “cumbercurls” makes my skin crawl.
Its the “waaah i love the sherlock curls” crowd that make me laugh.
A) its a character and he has to grow and dye his hair for that. He had hair before it and will continue to do so after sherlock ends.
B) hes said several times that he hates it as its too hard to work with and he doesnt know what to do with it
C) actor in “changes hair” shocker. Its f*cking hair people. Theyre like models in they have to be flexible to the part, its a requirement of certain roles.
Are they really? It’s an obvious “work” style, the telltale signs for wig cuts are the high sides he’s sportin’. Some actors won’t do it because they worry about what fans will think-nice to see he’s not concerned honestly.
I want him to shave it one day.
He had it shaved back when he played William Pitt the Younger but that was about…ten years ago now? Ish? It makes him look super young, almost baby-faced.
I’m with you Breezy. I get sick of coming into a positive post about Benedict and the first posts start with the negative.
It is nitpick that, nitpick that, the figure on the poster looks super-imposed, his hair and make-up in PE was bad and whatever else little thing they can criticise.
I loved Parade’s End and not once did I think that his hair or make-up was awful, I was too engrossed in the story, the characters and the wonderful acting.
He is an actor and he changes his hair style and colour to suit whatever role he is playing , as Lindy79 said, and it must be great sometimes to just do what he wants with it.
Wow @Maggie. Did you actually catch the other things jammy, MissMary and I were saying (that the poster is excellent and a great example of how film posters are moving in the right direction from the trite lineup of actors towards a more conceptual and artsy approach)? I enjoy all things graphic and I pay a lot of attention to visuals in films and on film posters. Turing’s figure IS slightly artificially superimposed, it’s an objective statement which isn’t in ANY way negatively coloured towards Cumberbatch – who I honestly start feeling sorry for – and not only because of the cumbercurl moaners, but also because of fans who get on the defensive every time anything he’s connected with gets any criticism, however slight.
Are you serious? I was not criticizing Ben at all. The poster does look superimposed, no fault of his own, duh. In fact I thought the poster concept was quite good. I’m a graphic designer so of course I will notice what’s good or off about poster design. This is criticism of Ben, how?
@ Innie Outie
Yes I probably did overreact to the TIG poster comments but it was more a general comment on the negativity that pops up on these posts. I did catch the positive comments on the poster as well.
@Breezy,
That would be one impressive middle finger. With Benedict and certain other actors the knives are always out around here. Some people get a pass, but Benedict isn’t one of them.
I don’t think someone who has known him all his life and is friends with his mother would lie about him being a gentleman. And at 80, aren’t old people incapable of that? My experience is that they tell it like it is.
You heard what the man said, didn’t you? He said, “can I marry you?”! I just know he meant it for me!
I’m off to get my bridal gown, ladies. It’s bigamy, ain’t it?
Nope. I’d happily relish the chance to wear all that gear again so i say its fair game.
OMG….LOVE THE GLASSES. I stand firmly in Camp Hiddleston, but would consider making a trip over to the other camp (call it a panty raid…) for him in these glasses. And everyone is so concerned about his hair. WHAT HAIR!? All I can see are those hunky glasses and stubble. It’s like Kevin Costner has had a sexy baby with Clark Kent.
I am really looking forward to seeing this. I just have to remember to bring tissues. In the past when Benedict has cried, I’ve cried right along with him.
He is a wonderful crier. I am going to need those tissues as well I think.
So far the crowds have been strong. I’m hoping that its coming from word of mouth, rather than any huge promotional push.
I’m very excited for all of Ben’s upcoming projects. Judi Dench and Ben together? Amazeballs, as Shakespeare would say. And while I think Ben’s hair is often very very nice, I think fans who are freaking out about it are way too hirsutely (not a word, but w/e) invested, lol.
The Imitation Game sounds amazing, and it’s getting a lot of love. It’s great that a story about Turing is getting such attention. He should be as famous as other heroes of WWII. I hope Ben and Keira and the movie all get oscar nominations.
I really like the poster, but is there something wrong with a comment that doesn’t like it? Most threads here seem a mixture of positive and negative comments. Not sure why anyone would think Judi Dench was lying tho. That’s dumb, if that person wasn’t joking.
I’m looking forward to filming if List City of Z actually starting!…At last lol!
I quite like his hair however he has it(not keen on blonde),but even if it’s short for Sherlock they can use extensions or a wig.Maybe now Sherlock’s developing emotionally they will allow him to physically develop/change too?
The blond wasn’t his best look (at least not how it showed when it was just pics and such… it seemed to brassy under camera lights for photographs). I think BC is going to be hella busy in 2015, from the sound of things! Well, from this point till the end of 2015!
I didn’t mind the hair so much as the portrayal of his wife. I’ve never met any women like that (well, like either of the women to be honest). That made it hard for me to get into the entire thing.
I kept wondering what was her motivation? Boredom? Frustration? Why was she so pissed at everyone? She had more money than he did, so she could easily have gone off to the country, give birth, then come back as if nothing had happened. She didn’t HAVE to marry a man she seemed to despise. I man she lived to make miserable.
@delorb
I agree they could have gone into her motivation a little more. I haven’t read the books. Maybe they do there? Rebecca Hall is a wonderful actress, but we didn’t get nearly as much of what was going on inside her character’s head as we did with Christopher.
I think i liked her character more than you did in that I found her fascinating, but at times she was totally inexplicable. Here behavior when she went to visit Christopher made no sense–she loves him, but she actively tries to get him in trouble, which puts him in major danger? It was like we were missing 20-30% of her character.
@caitlin
I love watching strong women chew the scenery. But one has to have a reason for doing so. You’re right, so much of her was missing. I haven’t read the book either but wasn’t this a faithful adaptation?
I’m not a huge fan of Shakespeare, but if MissMary is correct and Benedict is wearing tight leather pants, I might just change my mind. LOL The wig will be the deal breaker though. Its got to be a good wig. The picture I saw, while far away and grainy, doesn’t look promising. Leather pants crossed that they got it right. LOL
@delorb
I believe it was a faithful adaptation, from what I read, but I think that books often allow you to get inside a character’s head in a way that eludes movies. So with an especially enigmatic character like Sylvia, that was a problem for the viewer. At times it just made her look stupid: like, you know this is going to have the exact opposite effect you seem to want, right? I’d love to see Ben and Rebecca hall paired up again in something where her character is given equal weight, though I did love that they clearly didn’t care about making Sylvia likeable.
I like Shakespeare a lot, but the leather pants do add to the enticement, lol. I too hope the wig is good–Ben delivering some of the greatest language ever written while wearing a mop on his head would be a bummer.
I love that the lisp is alive and well in the VF interview. I also don’t know why everyone is freaking out about he haircut…BC’s hair grows really fast.
He looks so young shorn like this, it’s cute.
He has some of the best hair in Hollywood. Second only to Keanu Reeves, IMO. In texture, look and speed of regrowth. Its always sad for me when they put him in a wig. In Sherlock, season 3, episode 3, as he’s saying goodbye to John, those curls made me swoon. Oops. Sorry about another hair post. Well not too sorry. LOL
Word from the first day of the Richard III set is that BC’s costume involves tight leather trousers thus setting aflutter many a fangirl’s heart and alighting the fuel of some lascivious fantasies! More sexual currency (the poor beleaguered shit of a gentleman!).
I read that on someone’s twitter earlier! The trousers, the wig, the smoking, the giggling…
The question should be if he’s wearing them at The National tonight?Twitter has him there with Anna Wintour.
MissMary,I think Mystique has a new disguise!
Yuck. Anna wintour. Why oh why must he court that lady?
Ugh. Anna Wintour is awful on many levels.
sorry was there with his gf, a brunette but not Anna
He was with Anna and Sophie Hunter….apparently.
Anna wintour is a disgusting individual.
Does Anna Wintour have some sort of “star maker” power or something? Makes me wonder if she has some hella dirt on people. Some BI (and we know how reliable those are) has her being all gigging and touchy with BC at the fashion week event she went to with him and that made me cringey–I mean, if they’re both down with it, more power to ’em but the mental picture of Anna Wintour trying to be a coquette… (And the snark in me says if she was much younger, people would’ve linked THEM since they’ve been to the theatre multiple times together when she’s in London).
so any news about him & SH? Is it true or not
so Ben was at NT yesteday with his gf according to twitter. Sorry girls
Ben was at NT with *Anna Wintour* (see upthread). Have to say the RIII photos are a little disappointing in comparison to the descriptions : http://sue-78.tumblr.com/post/98215371162/benedict-cumberbatch-shooting-the-the-hollow-crown
I saw a tweet saying he & Anna were there with dates & the girl said she didn’t want to say more
I saw that too, but the person put “dates” under quotation marks and then play coy so who knows what the situation really was
And who said the date was a brunette?
I asked to one of the twittos, and I know who she is.
Sorry, who do you know? I dont’ quite understand what you mean.
So who was he with?
Interesting esp as he’s never spotted with her anywhere other than these “oh I saw him! I know it was them!” things. Strange.
MissMary. Confused here.
I thought he was with Anna Wintour.. Didn’t see anything about a gf/date.
What’s happened?
Apparently some tweets said he had Sophie with them/a brunette with them and Anna had brought a date as well. Personally, at the risk of having spent too much time avoiding work today whilst looking this up on twitter, lol, most of the tweets I found mentioned him and Anna Wintour and “their group” in some cases, but nothing specific. Raven here on CB says her friend was there and she asked if the brunette was Sh and he said yeah so there’s that, but as has been hashed over sooooooooooooooo many times, he goes to the theatre with female friends a LOT. including SH, Vicki, Loo Brealey, Alice Eve, his niece, his mother, Adam and his wife, Olivia still sometimes (her bf is cool with it apparently), etc. There’s been no rumblings in tabloid land so most folks are going with “eh, they’re friends, what’s the big whoop?” angle though apparently some are super thirsty for this to be a romance.
I asked to one of the girls on twitter but in private. Well the gf speaks french
You mean a DM, gotcha! How do they know she was a GF and speaks French?
Thanks anyway!
which sgf is fluent in french & italian?
Honestly, I don’t know who is fluent in which languages.
I just wondered how a person who spotted him in a theatre could know his date spoke French.
she said the girl was Sophie but I didn’t want to tell here. I thought everybody has understood
Sophie does speak French.
…how would they know the person he was with speaks French? Was she shouting it from the stalls at the stage? Or going up to people and saying “Pardonez-moi, mais je parle francais!” just to share the information?
one of my friends was there & spotted him with SH
Really? @London2012
Did she say anymore?
I did see that both Anna and BC brought dates and I did see elsewhere that his date was a brunette.
Looks like the Mirror was right. Who would have thought??
I think we saw the same thing! But why were dates under quotations?
And where did you see the brunette bit?
“Dates” in quotations? As in “they were with people but I don’t know if it was romantic”? And ew, Anna Wintour. I’ll always ‘ew’ Anna Wintour.
MissMary, yes the person who posted that comment wrote “dates”.
Plus, I don’t know if I’m allowed to say this, but I have I strong feeling Lola and London2012 are one and the same person and the friend they are referring to is actually a Twitter account.
@Ineedahobby There’s a few posters on BC threads I’m fairly certain are the same people are they are either stirring the rumor pot super hard to plump for their favorite rumors or just really really really desperate to spread the “news” they read. I’m sure it happens with other posters on other threads, too, don’t get me wrong, but I’ve noticed a trend on the BC ones in particular esp since a certain tumblr blog got some legs to it. Lots of twitter and tumblr rumors repeated (and apparently sent to the Mirror) and lots of posters swearing to it…
Who said the GF speaks French?
How did the person know it was Sophie?
@shiv : no sorry she didn’t. yes the mirror was right, my friend recognized her & was surprised the mirror was right
I’m not linking any twitter accounts, but yes apparently arrived with Sophie and sat beside Anna and her partner.
she came with him but didn’t sit next to him?
Saw they were sitting in the stalls and he was very enthusiastic in his standing ovation. That mental picture amuses me mainly because I keep picturing dour-face Anna being all “slow clap” while he’s cheering.
No, he and Sophie sat beside Anna.
I’ve seen the ‘dates’ tweet but this info comes from another twitter account, completely unrelated.
I think people need to stop being in denial.
Are you using two accounts, Lola and London2012?
Dating I’ll buy but I’ll still wait until he actually takes her to an event before I believe it’s the super serious dating people are waiting breathlessly for. And ew, double date with Anna Wintour. Maybe she’s nicer IRL than she comes off in the media?
I saw a few tweets about him and Wintour there together but no mention of dates, just “with a group” type things. But meh, if I was out with who I think Anna Wintour is based on public persona, I’d sure as hell want someone else with me, too, lol.
I feel you MissMary.
It maybe nothing so I guess it’s a guess of playing the waiting game.
Lola, i think you have been on twitter and picking up bits and pieces as opposed to having the inside scoop.
What denial? He’s got loads of female friends he regularly goes to events with in succession. This really doesn’t ‘prove’ anything.
I’m with you on this one, Nic.
lol no why?
Just came to my mind, since you are also “Frenchgirl”. The language and timing of posts is the same.
I did notice a sudden influx of french fans here and thought that was unusual. Color me naive…
A poster above thought you were, so I thought I’d ask straight out.
And you really think she would come clean?
Maybe. Just thought I would ask straight. I’m
Not familiar with a lot of the new posters so not sure if they are the same people or not….
I spoke to an acquaintance who attended and saw BC arriving with a woman, showed him a picture of SH, and he confirmed it was her. So it seems they definitely went together. Whether they’re theatre buddies or in a burgeoning relationship is yet to be seen. An older interview with SH said that one of her main hobbies was going to theatres with friends, so it could be as innocent as that. And I really did think he was single given his schedule and time spent with various women. But between the French Open, the mystery lady in Italy, the supposed Elbow concert sighting, and these theatre “dates” I’m honestly beginning to wonder. And it’s a little strange that he goes out with her just days after gossip about their relationship broke in the DM and tabloids considering he went out of his way to be seen with another woman immediately when the tabloids reported KE last year, but I guess he really doesn’t care what they have to say. But then we have BC attending theatre with just Viki earlier this summer and with the tube top girl at the NT just a few weeks ago, and it puts a wrench in the whole SH thing. I’m starting to wonder if we’ll ever know his deal.
I’m not saying anyone’s lying here, but I do find it odd that a site like this with regular posters interested in BC, happen to know people who went to that specific night last night.
I’ve posted on the BC threads here for a long time, and trust me, nobody would like to debunk the SH rumors more than me. I’ve made it clear in previous threads how pretentious and ill-suited for BC I think she is and how very, utterly single he appears. But I had the opportunity to ask someone about the evening and I took it. I wish I had something better to report, but there it is!
@Raven: I wouldn’t say this is “bad news” lol. It’s just what it is. He was at the theatre with a group of people which included Sophie Hunter. A few months ago he was in a rent house in Dublin with a group which included Loo Brealey (another favorite to ‘ship’ him with). And he was in the Tube with Vicki around New Year’s. And at the theatre with several people between then and now. It just is what it is. Like I said elsewhere here, I’m not holding my breath on the whole SGF thing but I’m totally seeing this as a casual thing esp given his schedule.
I try to keep up with Benedict’s comings and goings, but I have no idea who some of these people are. Who is Viki? I only recently learned who Sophie is. Does this make me a bad fan or does ending a sentence with ‘is’ make me a bad fan? LOL
Honestly? And I’m not in fangirl denial but rather “adult relationship reality non-denial” (I don’t know a word for it, lol)… I still really don’t see this as more than a casual thing esp b/c they’re in groups every alleged sighting, she’s never with him at “official” events (red carpets, premieres, industry ‘dos where a LTR or serious partner would not be amiss). He takes Adam to most of his industry/offical ‘dos, and/or Karon (which is to be expected, as his PR rep). He’s been to the theatre with women so many times over the years, and always “linked” to them unless they’re patently in a LTR with another man (Loo Brealey comes to mind) that I have a hard time buying the SGF thing and that it’s SH, again esp as they’ve been friends for a long while now and been out together freuently, even when he was with Olivia.
Maybe they are, and maybe it’s awesome and new and he’ll take her to the Oscars instead of his parents, but we may never know…
IF (and that’s a big if) they are in a relationship, it truly must be as new as the tabloids say. He was with her at Hay Festival and the French Open, but then went off to Boston to film Black Mass just a week later (June 17). He wrapped up filming on July 15, then headed home to the UK for his birthday with Adam, Loo, and who knows who else. Then he was off to LA/SDCC from July 22-28. Afterwards, he immediately hopped a plane to Italy and spent 2 weeks there and in Greece (possibly with SH for at least part of the time). Then from roughly August 10, he was back in England and doing things, but Sophie was off on a trip to Scotland with her friends. He was seen with the tube top lady at the NT around August 20, and after that is when the SH sightings started to ramp up. Factoring in his trip to Toronto from September 6-10, it doesn’t seem like they’ve had much time together since the first time we saw them out. So if there is something, it’s probably very new and not worth thinking about.
There’s no proof she was with him in Greece, esp as he has family there and many folks think he was with a family member when he was “spotted” with–but no one knows for sure esp as the sighting was reported by a kid who was harangued on IG.
Given their past history, at least what is seen via pics and interviews, it really just sounds like friends seeing a play. They were both at Hay for work reasons (readings). It seems like the sightings are increasing as people just simply look for them. They want to see if he’s with her, so they’re looking harder. It’s like when he was out more with his PA/Niece Emily and all the “mystery blonde” sightings for like two months. I’m kind of “eh” about it being any sort of romantic situation since he’s got Adam (his bff) with him at events like the Nick Cave premiere, the Bright Young Things gala, and generally just hanging out and going to events, but Sophie is seen with him in group outings to the theatre or a concert.
I’ll vouch for Raven as a long time poster who does not troll or stir things up. MissMary, you’ll be aware of that 🙂
Whether it was a romantic outing or not, who knows. I certainly don’t go out with one male friend, just he and I, as often as they do. Maybe the acting/theatre world is different.
Oh, for sure about Raven! LOL she’s a voice of reason on the BC threads.
re the outings: Maybe that’s where my “meh” about it comes in–I do go out with male friends a lot and it’s just as friends. I have a male friend I go to the movies with since we have similar tastes and schedules in terms of free time, and I have a male friend I go out to eat with since our SOs aren’t very adventerous eaters but we are, so we spare them the stress of trying to find something “familiar” on the menus, and so on. Some male friends I just hang out with with no special intent, etc. I tend to think these outings look like a friendly scenario esp as he never has her at “EVENTS” (even super low key ones like the gala the other night where a lot of folks brought dates) yet would often take Anna to such things, and Olivia when they were together, but I could be very wrong and they just don’t “DO” events and she’d rather not go out to such things so he goes with Adam.
LoL! Could you imagine going on a group outing (potential date) where you knew Anna Wintour would be there judging you?
OMG I’d die. Not because I’m afraid of her or way into fashion and a huge fan or something but because I’d spend the whole outing trying to horrify her and not laugh at the same time. Like wearing the worst possible outfit (i.e. anything in my wardrobe, by high fashion standards), telling dirty jokes, talking about Walmart and Target fashions…
Something tells me that it would be easy to horrify that woman.
LOL I’m sure all most people would have to do is start telling her how the “other half lives” and she’d go into a fit of vapors.
I agree with others that they are either just friends or are dating casually to see how things go.
I’ve been wondering lately if BC had a crush on SH when they were in BF years ago. Back then, he was with OP and SH was probably with her musician boyfriend but now that they are both single, maybe they are giving it the old college try?
Another thing that I am mulling over is how in BC’s early career he was quite liberal – and almost downright socialist in his political views. I remember seeing that he spoke at a few rallies for funding of the arts (?) and he seemed to be quite involved in that movement (which really made me like him more). But now it seems like he spends all his waking time with some pretty posh folks who probably come from a fairly conservative background – like Kinarva, for instance. Her uncle is the Duke of Norfolk who is pretty staunchly conservative. I guess I just have to say that I sometimes yearn for the Bendy of yesteryear…
He’s still pretty vocal re liberal causes but it’s not as “loud” as before, and part of that, I think, is he just isn’t doing as many public appearances for the causes anymore due to his filming and performing schedules. He’s pretty open about supporting things like making the arts available to everyone and not just the “posh” set, working with youth who aren’t from posh sets, etc. I think he’s always been in the more conservative circles socially due to his family and also his own schooling at Harrow, but I think, just from how he comes off in interviews and such anyway, that he’s politically and socially liberal.
NT/BC/SH pics or GTFO
LOL! *ahem* Now that you’ve said that, we’ll be inundated with blurry pics of him next to possibly brunette smudges.
Well, quite straightforward, but I tend to agree at this point! LOL
Not because I need the proof or I’ll wither away, but simply because this is exhausting.
I couldn’t help myself and I went through some of the old threads. As I see it, 2 or 3 people with multiple Twitter accounts moved their business to CB and that blog and are know creating a whirlwind of self-referential rumors.
And yes, the same people are tweeting the Mirror reporter again! WTF is that about? I’m down with gossip (hell I’m here, right!), but why tweet the press? That’s crossing so many lines I can’t even count them.
Just a few things regarding Sophie – what makes her a stronger GF candidate then say Viki? Or Kinvara? Or the NT girl? Or any other woman he’s seen with that we don’t even know about? And there were/are plently of those. It’s just that before this secret GF bore no one bother to subtweet the posters who spotted him. And still there were pics of him with different women, tweets of him being seen with blondes, brunette or whoever.
People need to chill. Where’s the fun gone?
Also, if they are in a committed love story of the century (and not just friends, FWB or casual dates) and they are trying to hide it, why go to the French Open together? Why sit in front of millions of TV viewers and the world press for five hours(!) and then deliberately not appear in public for almost four months? Since then BC was paped going to Chiltern House, spent a month in Boston, in LA, at SDCC, Dan Stevens’ premiere, the GQ awards, TIFF, Bright Young Things, Nick Cave premiere. He skipped the Emmys and Telluride, but I’ll take a wild guess and say he would stick to the pattern.
At all these events people had their partners attending and he was either with his PR or his best friend.
What, they could be seen four months ago, but now they are hidding?
And this really isn’t denial. It’s just that I, form my adult experience, can’t fantom that this is how a serious relationship among adults would look like, whether they are famous or not.
OK, I’m done. Sorry for the long/ranty post 🙂
YES, all of this! I can’t pick out one thing to say “ESPECIALLY THIS” about lol but it’s all on point.
Personally, I almost feel sorry for Viki 🙂 There are at least three sneaky photos of them together at events, one where they are totally alone on the tube, there’s Viki sharing laughs with his niece. She’s obviously friends with Tertius and has visited him in America, she/her family have a property in the same small Greek village as BC. She’s reported out and about with him more times then there are pics.
Yet no one even considers/considered she might have something going on with him? She isn’t pretty enough or what’s the deal?
And in the same vein, could this be the case with Sophie?
@Ineedahobby: My inner snark wants to say it’s because Vicki isn’t famous. She’s a very well educated academic and she has known BC since, if not childhood, at least his 20’s due to family connections. I think she doesn’t get as much “attention” by the shippers because she’s not a classically beautiful “girl next door” they can create a romance narrative around, but a very intelligent career-woman who has not made any sort of “deal” about being friends with him forever and a day.
I think the Sophie thing has legs to do it because not only is she a known actress (despite not having an illustrious career), she fits the profile the rumors have set up (brunette, conventionally pretty) and they’ve been on “dates” since the rumors were pushed around SDCC or so. Never mind that they’ve been in groups for all of ’em–that’d ruin the narrative. If Sophie wasn’t pretty, or if she was “Oh, my GOOD FRIEND BENEDICT” like KE, then people would be trashing her left, right and center instead of “omg guiz tru luv 5evah” and trying to make it happen.
Also, (editing to add this)… Sophie was a HUGE favorite amongst rumormongers around the French Open and no one could make anything stick, so I think a very vocal set has been trying to find any “in” for her to be the alleged SG.
Never mind.
Ineedofahobby, you’re a voice of reason ; )
There are those times when one simply needs someone “on their arm.” May be this was BC just asking a friend for that reason and having someone for support when facing AW! Cripes! SH is also a very logical choice for such an evening because she dabbles in fashion. Oh, well…time will tell–may be!
Word. All this. Sometimes taking your PR agent, niece, or bff just won’t do…
I’m still in the friend’s camp where SH is concerned.Like Encumbered says above,SH dabbles in fashion so maybe she was a good choice to take.Adam can’t be available all the time.
Let’s hope someone tweets from JR’s wedding on Saturday. She could go there with him
I’d think anyone tweeting from his wedding would get a boot up the ass, ngl. It’s not a huge public deal, despite his being fairly well known as a musician and the fangirls who know him as BC’s buddy.
does anyone know whether SH still lives in France? If so it is awfully odd that she is spending so much time in London…..
No, she doesn’t. Going by the twitter account that posted the photos of her around the FO, she often visits both Paris and New York, for work and I’m assumming socially, but she lives in London.
Here’s an old quote confirming she went back to London after studying in Paris.
“Sophie studied acting at Jacques Lecoq drama school in Paris and all things French play an important part in her life. “It was very difficult leaving but acting work in London beckoned” says Sophie.”
I’m not up on her news but last I read anything, she splits her time between the two places due to work and family.
Between the tennis and Richard lll(which was a group date),was there any sightings ofbSH and BC actually together?
Even Richard lll,she wasn’t mentioned at the after show drinks tweet that did the rounds.
People keep trying to make Hay happen but they were both there working, and BC was also seen with Loo Brealey and others, both individually and in groups. All sightings have been either as part of a group or unverified rumor from anonymous twitter accounts or that tumblr site. Frankly, the Alice Eve rumors had better underpinnings and she is engaged to someone else and was dating yet a different person at the time of the BC rumors.
That’s what I thought.If Loo wasn’t with the lovely Ferdy I’m sure she’d have been linked to him more than once.More spark there than with SH.
People DO try to link ’em. And him and Lara Pulver (she had to come out and say something very firm and definite on her twitter account to make folks stfu. she even had to mention her bf (now fiance) repeatedly to get people to stop the rumormongering.
My two cents (for what it’s worth 🙂 ) : They are dating, but it is new, and not serious yet. They are taking things slow, and it’s too soon to bring her to ‘official events’ as his steady girlfriend. They’re not hiding anything, but theyre just not at that point in their relationship yet. And it shouldnt be rushed. It absolutely makes sense to me that’d he’d take his time and really get to know someone before introducing them as a steady partner. And what better way to do that than theatre dates and group dates with friends? (Not to mention whatever the heck they do that no one knows about.)
Of course, she could just be his latest female buddy, but I think theres more to it. Too many recent sightings for one thing. And there’s bound to be many more now that people know who she is. Will it last? Who knows? Just have to wait and see.
But, if anyone thinks that he’s walking down the Oscar red carpet with anyone other than his mother, you’d better rethink that. Haha.
But they’re not recent sightings…they’ve been going to plays and such together since he was still with Olivia. And he’s also been “spotted” doing similar with several other women, both known faces and not, all since the “secret gf” crud started back in April, which is why so many of us are like “meh, not so much”.
I mean, you may be 100 percent right but they’re not new to one another (they’ve been friends since at least 2009 or thereabouts).
There’s been three ‘sightings’, not all confirmed, there’s been just as many with his other friends, ie: kinvara etc.
I think fundamentally there’s an innate issue with people accepting friendships between men and women. Of course there’s every chance he’s dating someone, but there’s really no evidence for that here. Certainly nothing out of the ordinary for HIM anyway.
I remember an interview with alice eve during ST filming where she talked about going out with him three nights on the trot. I think something that IS obvious about him is that he’s a very warm, friendly guy . It’s sadly unusual, but he’s very amiable. He doesn’t allow himself to be defined or constrained by anything or any standards. He’s very interesting and quite quirky.
It makes me feel weird that celeb gossip is making me wonder so much about how we, as a society, internalize and sexualize relationships, particuarly friendships. People of different genders can’t be friends, it seems, without it having to have an ulterior sexual motive, and a man who is happily single must be gay, especially if he’s close to another male friend, or if he has a lot of women in his life, he’s either a “slut” or “pining for love”. No one can just be friends anymore, at least not if you’ve got any sort of fame.
Your last bit there, Nic, is why I think there’s been no PR response. He and his PR seem very “whatever, you believe what you want” about rumors unless they can be specifically harmful to his “brand” as he promotes movies.
Yep, MM. And I think they’re doing exactly the right thing. I also hope he knows as little as possible about all this nonsense, as it could have the potential to drive him mad if he did.
He’s been very vocal in some interviews about “What you read about people in the tabloids is a bunch of lies” and since he started that line of commentary when asked about rumors (esp regarding non-acting stuff), his PR has been very “ignore it and it’ll go away” when it comes to things like dating rumors or personal life crud. I’m sure he knows a lot of what’s said, mainly because people tweet his friends CONSTANTLY when shit like this is all over the place so I’m sure some of it gets back to him, if only incidentally (and I’d be surprised if Karon or one of her crew didn’t say “hey you want us to address this?” for some of the bigger things). I am also pretty sure that’s why he’s less engaged with his fans than other celebs–he’s being friendly but professional, not letting that last barrier down.
Tara…what recent sightings?
2 theatre trips in 4 weeks?And why get to know someone that you’ve known and been friends with for years?
I think it seems like more sightings than there really are due to the proliferation of “Omg he was standing near a brunette! It’s her!” tweets and the tumblr b.s.
remember just a month ago when it was Kinvara, lol? Everyone was so sure she was “the one” and they were on the verge of an announcement or some malarkey.
Actually MissMary I think we had the exact same conversation then lol!!
I know we shouldn’t bring the T stuff obery here,but someone there apparently has linked some of the tweets to the one who ‘leaked’ the Sophie being the gf to the Mirror reporter.Danny Cruz?
@Kazlock: Totally not surprised if the “leak” was linked to that tumblr–it was all the exact same “info” from unfounded anon posts over there. Almost to the letter.
I did not know that they’ve been going to plays together for that long, missMary, that’s interesting. I know that they’ve known each other since at least 2009, but just as friends. When I said ‘getting to know each other better’ I meant as potential romantic partners. That’s obviously a different relationship than just friends, and changes the dynamic between people.
By recent sightings I mean yesterday’s theatre trip with Anna Wintour and co, and the Richard III a few weeks back and the tennis match. (though the pictures from that really did read ‘just friends’). I’m counting Elbow, too, even though I know that’s not confirmed. Lol.
I don’t believe that secret girlfriend stuff that ,I think, the show biz spy did way back when, that was just for clicks for their site. But it is possible he’s been quietly seeing this lady since June. Not hiding it, just going on group dates and such. And I know he has a lot of platonic female friends that he hangs out with, and I have no problem with that. You’re right, he’s a nice guy who likes people and likes hanging out with his friends, male or female. Social fellow.
And of course I have no proof other than my gut feeling, but I think that he and Sophie are in the early stages of a relationship. Now that he’s 1. Back in England for the rest of the year and 2. People are aware of who she is (thanks to the Mirror) there will be more confirmed sightings of them together.
I thought they were dating before yesterday, but a double date with Anna Wintour sealed it for me. But again, it’s just my feeling 🙂
Unrelated to BC, how do you figure that the best way to get to know a potential partner is by going on group dates?
In my world it’s always been the other way around 🙂
Wild horses couldn’t make me take a guy I’ve recently met to a group outing with friends.
And I’d venture to say you shouldn’t count on more confirmed sightings. The only people who know who SH is are usually fans and even a good portion of them doesn’t know or care about her.
The people who actually do see/meet him are in 99% of the cases non-fans who don’t have the slightest idea whether or not he has a GF and much less who she is.
I don’t count fan rumors as “confirmed sightings,” ngl, or “group outings” as dates, esp with adults in their late 30’s. Well, to rephrase, lol, it might be a “date” but it’s a very teenagery thing to do, go on a “group date” in your late 30’s to “get to know someone”. That seems more, as an adult, something you’d do after you’d been together long enough to be like “okay, these are my friends, deal with it if you don’t like ’em”.
Re “confirmed sightings”: He also had a host of those with Kinvara, Lydia Hearst, KE, a few with Liv Tyler (including Oscar parties), and with Vicki as well, and with a ton of male friends… I don’t see any LTRs there. Well, not romantic ones, lol.
Lol, I don’t even know anymore! Haha
Ineedahobby, I agree, group dates arent the way I’d go about getting to know someone. I meant for him specifically, if he didn’t want the rumors about him and a particular girl, then going out in a group would be helpful. But I don’t think he’d only go out with a group to avoid gossip. It’s gonna get him anywhere. And unless it’s harmful, I don’t think he gives a rip.
Missmary, you’re right it is totally a teenage thing to do. But group dates are still dates, lol. So they could still count!
Can’t really comment about all those other ladies in the past. I’m just talking about very recently. The kinvara one definitely applies, that could have been a potential gf, but doesn’t seem to be. And this Sophie could be a very similar situation as that, just old friends hanging out a lot. But again, it also could very well be a relationship. We won’t know until he or she says something, but I’m sticking with yes they’re dating. Just b/c I’m stubborn, lol! (and because I really thing they are 🙂 )
LOL, fair enough! I think there’s plenty of stubborn people on both sides of the “are they or aren’t they?” story.
Dating, fwb or whatever it is. I can’t help but notice how similar fan behavior regarding love life is when it came to TH and BC. Last year we were all debating what JA’s relationship was with TH. While some admitted they’re fwb/hookups, most people were SURE that she’s old story and TH is not seeing (whatever that may mean) her anymore. And of course, then Bora bora happened. Just goes to show, it doesn’t matter what we think “normal” dating behavior is- what exactly goes on between two persons in a relationship completely depends on their dynamics. On a broad category, most couples follow a certain trendline, which becomes the norm. For example taking one’s significant other to awards/events. It is expected that if they’re serious then they’ll appear in events together. And most couple do that. But that doesn’t mean if someone doesn’t want to go to their famous bf’s premier, they are NOT in a relationship. Not saying that SH is BC’s gf for sure. But saying stuff like “I’ll believe it when he takes her to a red carpet” sound like being in denial, even if one doesn’t mean it that way. BC may never take his future SO to any awards event ( well maybe, the Oscars when he’s nominated) but will that mean he will never have a gf. I think it’s silly to expect some generic predefined indicators to predict the seriousness of a couple’s relationship.
I really wish people would stop using the word ‘denial’, when all that people appear to be denying right now, is him spending time with female friends and a few bullcrap tabloid articles which have been literally lifted from the gossip on sites such as this.
Healthy scepticism is more the case, instead of believing everything that’s put in front of them.
And why oh WHY do people have to shoehorn in comparisons with hiddleston at every single opportunity? Drives me nuts.
Word. Denial makes it sound like we’re all weeping into our cornflakes whilst wearing wedding gowns and staring at pics of his face taped to the chair across from us or something creepy. But I grok the intent wasn’t to imply that level of behavior. I prefer the skepticism phrasing, lol. I don’t know why I hadn’t thought of that earlier–thanks, Nic! *G*
@NIC
Denial us becoming my least favorite word!
How can one deny something that us pure speculation? BC has always gone to theatre/social events with women.It’s only because of the secret gf crap that people now assume that there is more to these trips.
Is it definate that SH was there at theatre with AW?And if we are,was there anything that made people think it was a ‘date’ and not just a friends outing?
Happy to help, MM 😉
I’ve noticed that people who use initials because they’re too lazy to type out full names (i.e.BC instead of Benedict Cumberbatch, TH instead of Tom Hiddleston,) are usually the least likely to have the ability to think rationally. Why is that?
@Pocketlint
Was that aimed at me sweetie?
I think it was aimed a several of us, Kazlock. Rise above, rise above. *shrug* If someone wants to assume I’m not thinking rationally because I’m doing the same thing the “OMG THEY ARE SO DATING!” people are doing, just on the other side of the coin, more power to ’em. No skin off my back.
MissMary…Well put!
Not in denial..just sceptical, as you stated further up thread.
Meanwhile Caitlin Moran makes the most rabid fangirl look sane, and gets paid to do so! http://www.sheknows.com/entertainment/articles/1052131/interview-with-caitlin-moran
Is she really messed up? Or is that just me?
Oh come on. She’s having a laugh with it for goodness sake. It’s funny, she’s joking around. If you read any if get column/work, she talks similarly and just as vividly about many people/things. The vile and disgusting level of hatred directed at her since that stupid fan fiction thing is unbelievable. Shows what happens when you rattle the crazies.
Haha, I see that Pocket Lint really does love Benedict Timothy Carlton Cumberbatch and Thomas Williams Hiddleston fans.
*whispers* In case if you’re wondering – I copy-pasted their names from Wikipedia 😛
Er… Wow, nic. I really don’t know her from Adam, so I was kinda truly asking if she was messed up. No vile and disgusting hatred. Calm down.
Fan fiction?? Oh, is she the one who made him and MF read it aloud at some event? You have to admit that’s a little off kilter. And from what I read, neither they nor the audience were too pleased about it. Again, I’m only going off what I’ve just googled about it a minute ago, but…
A lot of people have found her very problematic both around this subject and just in general (her “tee hee one of the boys” ‘feminism’ that equates to ‘if you don’t talk about sex, masturbation, pee, shit, farts, and your pubes in front of men, you’re doing it wrong’, her very problematic statements when asked about racial diversity in media–basically “fuck off, who cares”, etc) and coupled with her treatment of fans of Sherlock or other shows *then* the fan fiction incident after she made herself clear that she feels fans are sad and pathetic (apparently not realizing how “fannish” her own behavior is?)… a lot of people dislike her. And a lot also dislike her for her poor “journalism” and just her general representation of her ideas and self in her public persona.
Re the fan fic incident–one of the Beeb’s honchos reamed her out damn near in public in that event not only because of how gauche and horrifying that was, but because in the UK they could have been legit sued over that by the fan fic author. There was a whole shebang about it from a legal POV.
Personally? I’ve never like her writing and found her to be grating long before I ever saw an episode of Sherlock.
Meanwhile behind the scenes of Richard III….
http://cumberbatchcoffeeklatch.tumblr.com/post/98354880044/deareje-benedict-cumberbatch-on-set-of-bbc2
Oh, excuse me! I should have written “BTS of Richard III…” 😉
LOL I just came here to post a link to these pics! It’s an R3 kind of night–just watched an ep of Secrets of the Dead about how his scoliosis and health could’ve impacted his fighting (sidenote: the scoliosis wouldn’t have–they had a guy about his build and with the same degree of curvature using armor, medieval weapons, etc, and he kicked ass), I go online and there’s these pics. LOL. I’m interested to see how they approach this, if they skew more historical given recent discoveries, at leas where it comes to Richard III’s health and body, or if they stick to Shakespeare’s interpretation of how Richard looked/moved.