Sigh… we might need to change the name of the site to Celebatchy. Benedict Cumberbatch’s Oscar campaign is in full swing and it’s just… too much. I like that Benedict isn’t afraid of oversaturating the media, but he should be afraid. VERY afraid. Anyway, there’s a very long article in the new issue of New York Magazine. You can see the photos here. The theme of the shoot/article is that Cumbermania is like Beatlemania, that Benedict is “the Internet’s boyfriend” and everything he does or says goes viral, despite the fact that he’s never really carried a movie. The piece is actually a decent read and Benedict is playful and self-effacing throughout. Some highlights:
His posh education: “[My parents] worked very hard to afford me that education, because it was one of the most expensive educations you could buy a child then. I’ll put it this way: I went to school with princes and kings and people who, you know, owned oil fields, or who were able to buy buildings for the school.”
His dance-off with Michael Fassbender: “Everyone’s called that a dance-off. We were dancing together, as grown men should. There’s no ‘off’ about it. We were dancing ‘on.’ We were together, in perfect male harmony.”
His meme-friendliness: “I flirt with it. I have fun with it. I think if you take it too seriously, you’re dead in the water, and if you ignore it, then it’s kind of an insult because it’s a reality. So I engage with it on my own terms, and people seem to really respond to that because it’s me being me, rather than me going”—he switches to a high-pitched voice—“‘Hi, internet, thank you so much! I love you so much, all the feels, squidgies, LOL! Awkward!’ ”
Being considered a sex symbol: “It bemuses me still. It’s utterly the most inept superpower you could possibly imagine: ‘You’re really famous, and you’re a sex symbol. Go!’… There’s nothing you can do with that, other than be amused. Which I am. It makes me giggle. It’s fun, but I’m old enough to realize it’s not to be taken seriously. But it does make me twinkle.”
He’s never been the romantic lead: “I’ve never had a Gosling moment as a character. I’ve never been the kind of guy who’s made all the girls go gooey. I think it’s about time I did.”
Sex spoiler for Sherlock & Irene Adler: “Yeah, I think they were definitely at it after he rescued her from the beheading in Pakistan. I’m sure they were. I’m convinced of that.” But “I think he’s been burnt in the past. I think he also realizes he can’t beat female intuition. He can read women if he’s not attracted to them or involved with them, and he knows that he’ll get very confused if he’s starting to feel something for someone. So to embroil himself where he might be enslaved through adoration or sexual desire or any kind of power or chemistry to do with love is too big a risk for him, for what he wants to achieve. That doesn’t make him gay, and it doesn’t make him asexual; it means, you know, he’s purposely abstaining for the sake of his craft. Not something I do…That’ll probably be the headline: “Benedict Cumberbatch Doesn’t Abstain From Sex for the Sake of His Acting.” Wouldn’t it be great? Should I just say that?”
Harvey Weinstein orchestrating his Oscar campaign: “[It’s] enormously exciting for me and for the film. But, you know, in all honesty, I can’t actually do that thing,” meaning the months-long campaign. “I don’t have the time to commit to it.”
Oh, Benedict. Don’t say you don’t have time to campaign when you are The Anne Hathaway of the 2014 Oscar Season. Even Reese Witherspoon wants you to take it down a notch! Anyway, I like a lot of these quotes. My favorite is the stuff about dancing with Michael Fassbender because… sigh. Those two are so lovely. I also like how he explains his relationship with his (internet) fandom and how he’s trying to do it on his terms, and be authentic. I kind of think he was throwing shade on some of the celebrities who get TOO engaged with their fans, but since he avoids naming names, we don’t know where the shade was directed. As for Sherlock and Irene’s possible sex… YES. That makes me happy.
Photos of Benedict out and about in NYC this week, courtesy of WENN & Fame/Flynet.
Lindy!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees? 😉
I was waiting for you to claim the first seat. *have a slice of black forest cake* 🙂
He looks like an alien. It takes so little for a guy to be considered handsome.
Actually, if you don’t cover every fricking thing he does or make a big deal out of everything he does (2 articles a day sometimes), you’re not going to be oversaturated by it. You even have a “Cumberbatch” link in your masthead.
But for the clicks, right?
Lol, because he is so low key and discreet.
He’s promoting a film! Of course he’s not being low key and discreet. Jeez. It’s a promotional tour! He’s making as much appearances as Keira Knightley! But hey, his articles get more comments, more clicks, more ads. So yeah, let’s make a bigger deal out of him here on this site than other celebs.
@Mindy
Of course, Celebitchy is like Cumberbatch Central but it’s not like he wasn’t everywhere and promoting like his life depends on it.
He plays the Oscar game hard but denies it at the same time, that’s the annoying thing about him.
@Freebunny Actually, he didn’t say that he’s not going to campaign at all. He just said that it may be harder for him as he is working with Richard III at the same time. This is actually his contractual time to promote the film but since it’s also considered an Oscar contender he’s doing both at the same time.
And these interviews, profiles are obviously for different demographics. So, covering everything on this site alone, every day will surely be a case of over saturation.
Oh come on, he’s doing way more than Knightley, what tv shows has she done for this film? He’s done about 4 in the last 2 days.
But he’s the star so I suppose he gets a pass for that one.
I could excuse him saying he couldn’t campaign a few months ago as he could have been naive enough to think he wasn’t, however the fact he’s still saying he isn’t campaigning (and you can kid yourself that this is normal movie promo all you like) is laughable. He’s been f*cking everywhere the last week and it will continue both by him and on his behalf.
The engagement covers the People/E! demographic and the movie side is covered by Industry mags.
To quote Lainey and her source “he’s in it to win it”. Nowt wrong with that but stop acting like you’re not Ben.
@Lindy: For a supporting role (and for someone who isn’t known for campaigning at all) she does as much because she’s the bigger name in the US. Kimmel, Kelly and Michael, GMA and Bafta In Conversation. She also did a lot of mag covers in the UK and that nude thing she did. Even the DM churns out more of her than BC. But here, it’s definitely BC-central as all his fans/haters flock here to comment. More clicks!
And Lindy, that interview was done at TIFF. TIG wasn’t a surefire Oscar contender then. Of course he doesn’t know what’s gonna happen or if he can escape the Harvey-machine at all.
Mindy come on! From the moment HW bought it in Feb it’s been non stop Oscar talk for the film and him!
I get you are a fan but seriously?
He ain’t infallible. He knew this was coming and is trying to act like he isn’t thirsty for that Oscar.
Quotes from Feb 2014 in Industry magazines and since then it has been mentioned in every single Oscar contender list, especially for Best Actor.
CAA brokered this deal based on a promo reel that had five bidders going after it hard before TWC just took it off the table, with the feeling that it has one of its major Oscar hopefuls for the next race.
When movie mogul Harvey Weinstein paid out a record $7 million for the US rights to The Imitation Game, the film immediately emerged as an early Oscars 2015 frontrunner.
( I agree about the site though)
He never said he wasn’t campaigning. He just said he wasn’t going to be able to campaign as much as Harvey would like him to and that Harvey understood it. Come on now everyone. I know you are all upset he’s engaged to someone you don’t all get the appeal of but dang he is doing what everyone else is doing. The only person I don’t see campaigning is Michael Keaton (who I really wish would) but I think it’s because he like Bill Murray could give a good crap about the Oscars.
Actors are in it to win the big awards. I have seen nothing from BC that shows he doesn’t want to win. Heck we have MM hoping for a nod this year and Interstellar was not that great IMO. I haven’t seen the imitation game but think that Michael Keaton and Bill Murray killed it in their respective movies. I want to see them get Oscars before BC.
Same issue I have with Jennifer Anniston thinking that Cake should somehow win over Jullianne Moore who killed it in Still Alice and her other film this year.
@Lindy yeah but it’s been non-stop Oscar talk by HW. I honestly don’t see BC getting a lot of coverage since as many say he is Internet famous not Movie Star famous. He did great in STID but a lot of people still had problems with that movie and it was not as big as a hit as they anticipated. The last season of Sherlock was also ripped apart by a lot of people too.
We only have been hearing about this movie in the mainstream for about three weeks. This whole summer was overtaken by the wedding of Clooney and Clooney and than we had the Brange wedding. If anything the movie I kept hearing all of the hoopla about was Fury and Unbroken.
Look on the bright side. At least Mindy’s given up on spamming the site with pictures of the engagement ring. I think on the 43rd post, we’d all seen it in detail.
Starry, I can only speak for myself but 99% of what I’ve commented on has been his weird behaviour surrounding said engagement, not the engagement itself and his saying one thing and doing another in relation to the campaign.
I personally think like you, the relationship is real but was rushed along to fit..that in istelf is campaigning to a huge degree as it’s impacting his personal life.
The wording implies he’s not interested, that it’s something that is happening around him but he’s not involved in. I just wish he’d own it.
@lindy79 I get what you are saying. I think most people took his initial remarks was that he wasn’t going to campaign which had a lot of people ready to smack him. There was never going to be a time when he wouldn’t be campaigning. You work for HW then your butt is out there pressing palms and kissing babies.
I can see why he’s weird about his engagement too since I saw some of the Tumblr stuff…and man no joke. I would be hiring a bodyguard. I thought that the Robert Pattison stuff would be as low and crazy as the internet could get but yesterday made my skin crawl. There are actual people out there wanting to hire investigators into his fiancee to see if they are really engaged. I mean who in the world thinks this is any of his business. I can see him being pressured by Harvey to talk about it and from all of his interviews he has been reluctant to go there. However, like you say he wants an Oscar and he knows that the Academy eats that crap up. Double edge sword there.
Either way I hope he doesn’t win for IG. I really really want Michael Keaton or Bill Murray to take it. I think he’s getting a nom but I will think it’s a travesty if he does win. And not because he’s engaged. I just don’t think he can touch Michael Keaton or even Bill Murray’s performance based on the clips I have seen. I still haven’t seen IG though so that may change after I see it. Birdman was outstanding. I loved St. Vincent. And people, seriously go see Jake G in Nightcrawler. He was fantastic! I wish this site and others covered these three more.
“There are actual people out there wanting to hire investigators into his fiancee to see if they are really engaged. ”
Oh my god, are you serious??
Christ..I know we have a laugh on here but honestly this is where I talk about it and have a bit of a laugh. The extent of my Cumbertalk out of here with friends has been “oh you see he got engaged” “yep”.
@Lindy I am not kidding. It was freaking nuts. I also check in on Dlisted once in a while and a lot of posters were posting comments made by people on Tumblr, etc and yeah they are crazy. I looked up some of the comments and I would be hiring many many bodyguards.
Some of my FB friends were like oh look everyone’s bf got engaged and people were joking about it too but there are some people who are just cuckoo.
“I can see why he’s weird about his engagement too since I saw some of the Tumblr stuff…and man no joke. I would be hiring a bodyguard. I thought that the Robert Pattison stuff would be as low and crazy as the internet could get but yesterday made my skin crawl. There are actual people out there wanting to hire investigators into his fiancee to see if they are really engaged. I mean who in the world thinks this is any of his business. I can see him being pressured by Harvey to talk about it and from all of his interviews he has been reluctant to go there. However, like you say he wants an Oscar and he knows that the Academy eats that crap up. Double edge sword there.”
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Sorry, but where did you see this? I don’t believe for a second that anyone *seriously* meant that at all. It was probably some silly weird attempt at a joke. Of course nobody is going to pay for an investigator. Lmao. Don’t be silly.
I’m on tumblr constantly and all I’ve seen is VERY OTT declarations of OMG IM SO SOOOOOOO HAPPY, THEYRE SO PERF.” There’s literally nothing negative.
And nope, his weirdness over all this isn’t due to his fame. He has a small percentage of weird fans but so does everyone in the public eye. And he’s not at pains right now to keep things as private as poss. He’s been very open by his standards.
Basically, I think you need to stop taking all the stupid throwaway remarks you read online so seriously.
Blowing stupid little comments online out of proportion only serves to give them the gravity they never had and in turn gives fans a bad name.
@marvel yeah I saw it and I also saw comments here yesterday, on Dlisted, on Twitter, etc. One or two comments sure maybe it’s a joke. After that no not really.
@starrywonder
Well, sorry but I was lurking on the threads all day yesterday and read all the posts and saw nothing of the sort. Same for twitter.
Can you link me to dlist or the twitter comments you saw? If they exist then I’m sure there were one or two and yes, I 100% guarantee that they were a joke and nobody is seriously going to pay money for an investigator. lol.
Perhaps he’s on all the shows because their booking agents saw that he had a lot of juice? Some of it is Oscar, some of it is shows thinking they’ll get eye-balls. Just sayin.
Yeah yesterday was awful. If you actually had the nerve to say he looks happy good luck on his engagement you were accused of being a troll and had people attacking you.
Do I think he waited to announce his engagement to appeal to Oscar voters, yes. Do I think he is also engaged because he wants to be? Yes. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. People. trying to argue that he is obviously not in love and when the engagement ends and people have to eat crow need to calm down. I like the Batch too but I am not insane enough to think we will ever meet, fall in love, and get married.
Seriously! They’re attacking any one who isn’t buying into all their conspiracy theories over in that 900+ comment thread.
@Mindy – I’m pretty sure the link in the masthead changes depending on who the most commented on celebrity is during a specific time period. I’ve seen it be things like Catherine and William quite often.
I know that. But that just only proves my point here. If this site doesn’t churn out everything he does, there will be no oversaturation at all as these interviews/profiles are for different demographics.
A lot of readers here have been complaining about it even before all this. The site owner/writer were even being suspected as PR persons hired by BC’s team because of the amount of articles they write about him. I get that it’s for the clicks for ad revenue, but like, this “oversaturation” they’re complaining about is caused by them. So, complaining about it is ridiculous. Don’t cover it then, but that’s about a thousand clicks lost in one day.
I think it’s really a “chicken or the egg” situation 😄 Sure, everyone is talking about overexposure already (commenters and site writers alike) but they also had a thread the other day where there was over 900 comments. Until the comment threads die down a bit, the coverage will continue.
@mindy – YES!
and this site has been really bat$hit crazy ever since he got engaged. he’s always had bordering-obsessive fans here, from my observation, but i mean, this is really over the top.
@AG
Oh stop exaggerating. Yes, there has been a ton of posts but people have just developed a constant thread chatter. Stop trying to paint it as raving and ranting just because he’s engaged. If anyone’s bothered to read the posts, they make some fair points on the way things have been played out. Stop trying to shame people for that on a celeb goss site.
Oh, and Mindy is the worst of all. Yesterday she posted the close up shot of the engagement ring about eight times on the same thread. Now, if that’s not crazy, I dunno what is.
@Ag yeah…I remember the old days of Ted’s Awful Truth and it reminded me of everytime he posted one thing on Twilight or KS or RP the entire comment thread would lose it’s mind. People are still still nutty about them and they have not been a thing in more than a year. It’s not a joke when people are commenting elsewhere that Sophie Hunter may need to hire a bodyguard because people are seriously unhinged about BC being engaged. People have no problem picking apart her looks, her body of work, calling her fake, etc. and it’s all because she got picked by him to be his wife.
I like commenting here and I know it’s a gossip site since heck I think the K’s, Beiber, and a few others are just out and out frauds and they suck. However, I don’t get the people acting as if BC betrayed them and are calling him a liar and fraud because he’s campaigning when he never once said he wouldn’t be. He just said he wouldn’t be doing as much as HW wanted him to do or would want him to. And that I can believe. When HW is pushing a project, actor, etc. he wants 100 percent control and he makes them go to freaking everything and go meet with Academy voters behind the scenes. I won’t be surprised if BC takes out a full fledged ad talking about himself in the HR at all. I still will never put him at the same level as Anne with an E because for me if she just owned up to campaigning and being fake everyone would have liked her. Her over the top speeches, her making everything about her, etc. was why she lost a lot of fans.
Heck what award show was that when she was trying to hug Amanda Seyfried and I thought that she was going to clobber her (AS clobber Anne). Everyone knew that Anne was going to get the Oscar. I think if she had just sat down and relaxed it would have been fine. Instead she was in everyone’s faces so much all of us were tired of her.
People are snarking at Cumberbatch not because he’s campaigning. I am sure that everyone is aware that he never said he wouldn’t campaign – he’d have had to be completely dim to say that. People – including myself – are snarking about his refusal to own his campaigning game or at the very least stop talking about how he hasn’t got time to do “proper” campaigning while in reality campaigning his ass off. He said that he’s busy working, that he tried to explain to Weinstein that he wouldn’t be able to do US talk shows but that “didn’t seem to register” and many other things along the same lines. And yet here he is, campaigning away. THIS is what people are complaining about – the attitude, not the fact.
Mal vel: word to everything you’ve been saying.
@Marvel: It seems pretty crazy to develop a conspiracy about her engagement ring over a blurry photo shot from far away that doesn’t even clearly show her hand. And then every time someone said anything positive they were attacked. People are not exaggerating stating people are acting like nutjobs over this.
@claire
Oh for pity sake, can the word ‘conspiracy’ be dropped please? God I hate unnecessary drama. People were talking about the pic that didn’t seem to show the ring. That’s all. There was no rabid attacking of anyone who said anything positive. It’s not an ‘attack’ if someone disagrees, y’know? I remember some fairly creepy overly obsequious comments that people raised their eyebrows at and that’s not an attack either. The weirdos being way too weirdly positive about his engagement don’t seem to get called out anywhere near enough.
And yes, it is exaggerating to say people acting like nutjobs. People are talking about it a lot and it’s pretty tough to deny he’s being weird, that doesn’t make them nutjobs, so less of the shaming please.
ITA 100% with Ag and Claire. I think the only people who don’t see how insane the CONSPIRACY (sorry if you don’t like the word but I call it like I see it) theories are are the people who are deep in the Cumberstandome.
Ultimately, it’s embarrassing to witness what I presume to be mainly adults, acting like teenagers who just tore their Cumberbatch poster off the wall in a fit of jealousy and disappointment over his engagement. It’s cringe-worthy.
Really? You’re attacking her for providing updates when there’s CLEARLY a market for them? This is her livelihood.
Celebrities and bloggers are allowed to be uncomfortable with the volume and intensity of some fans, without taking themselves out of the game completely. It’s not all or nothing.
Everyone has a right to speak their mind, but it’s hard to take the majority of these comments seriously, because they’re so chock-full of paranoia. When someone accuses me of being an undercover PR person just because I make an idle statement that doesn’t align with their beliefs, their conspiracy theory loses all credibility in my eyes. I get that people feel manipulated, but good god, if that’s true you’re only adding fuel to the fire. I think it makes fans feel more important if they can convince themselves that studios and celebrities are actually reading and responding to the things they say. It’s doubtful at best.
I saw that comment. It was a joke. Clearly. Chill.
“That comment”? There have been multiple comments, by multiple people, and I’m not the only one who’s receiving them. “PR plants in the comments section” have been cited as proof of the ongoing conspiracy, which makes it all the more laughable. Positive comments aren’t personal attacks on the angry fans; they’re just idle observations because we have no personal stake in this.
Don’t worry, I’ve been chilling all along. Now I’m just dazed in a trainwreck sort of way, trying to figure out why this is so important to so many people.
Well, let’s be honest here, PR people commenting on message boards IS a thing, so let’s not give too much sideeye to people who are aware of that.
I don’t think think anyone thinks all positive comments are sus, but there are some which are just….hmm. Y’know?
Anyway, I don’t know why people are so worked up by people talking about this.
He has acted weird. Fact. The how’s what’s and whys nobody is claiming to know, but they’re just chattering about it. It’s a celeb gossip blog after all. What’s the biggie?
Thanks for being civil about this. I realize PR plants are a real thing, but only in a very abstract way, and I certainly don’t think it happens as often as everyone wants to believe. I’m not surprised that people think he’s acting weird, but I’m disturbed by the intense detail with which people are picking it apart, like there’s a legal trial and they need to collect evidence. To what end? It might just be a simple discussion for you, Marvel, but it seems very personal and very emotional for many, many other commenters. Why the need to convert the rest of us into scorned ex-fans? Why care if someone else doesn’t believe it’s a farce, or does and likes him anyway?
Maybe this is just a wake-up call, and many of his fans are realizing for the first time that even the most “accessible” celebrities are just well-crafted public images. I’m a lifelong Angelina Jolie fan, but I’m just a stranger who only knows the story she wants to tell. I wouldn’t feel personally offended if her whole marriage turned out to be a sham, for example (just very shocked); she already gave me great performances and a career that inspired my own. These performers don’t owe us anything beyond that… certainly not the truth about their “real” lives.
@Marvel go google. Or better yet go to Dlisted and see the Lizard King Post which had multiple copy and paste comments from yesterday’s article and go back and look at yesterday’s article.
Those glasses 🙁
The man is losing all his appeal.
Benny the Weinstein’s sex-symbol status makes ME wrinkle – prematurely.
He’s the new Ryan Gosling dontcha know
I read that and legit went OH there’s the angle they want to work towards with his PR.
LOL lindy “dontcha” u guys crack me up. Ryan goshling!!! 😀
did he actually say that?
And yet, People Magazine missed him entirely.
He’s so Fetch
Lindy, quit trying to make fetch happen. It’s not going to happen.
Lilac, that’s not his pr strategy. Personally I’m happy about him having missed it completely:)
Because I love Lindy, I think “fetch” should happen. Not that I have any idea what it means.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sir_24duiF4
Ben IS Gretchen Weiners and HarveyW is Regina George. He’s desperately trying to be fetch and make himself happen.
Hence the dead #jawseyes
I hope he cracks like she does
and he was missed out on the 100 greatest actors
I don’t like him. There I said it. Not only do I find him unattractive, but I find him disingenuous too. I don’t know, something about him rubs me the wrong way.
I am starting to dislike him too, this whole “look at me, don’t look at me” game he is playing is tiring, hope he takes a break from the public eye soon (I know this won’t happen but I am an optimistic fool)
Up until this recent steaming pile of sh*t, I was a fan of him and his work, found him funny, engaging, talented, the perfect English gentleman. And the he started all this schizo, private/not private, utterly bizarre nonsensical behavior and even more bizarre nonsensical sound bytes, and I think he’s either sold out to HW or he’s losing his freakin’ mind. I am both disappointed and worried for him but he’s a grownup, hopefully he’ll come out of it alive.
I agree with you so much on this.
Case in point, from the interview quoted in the post:
” he [Sherlock]’s purposely abstaining for the sake of his craft. Not something I do…That’ll probably be the headline: “Benedict Cumberbatch Doesn’t Abstain From Sex for the Sake of His Acting.” Wouldn’t it be great? Should I just say that?””
Not the words of a naturally private person. He didn’t need to make sure we all know about his status as sexually active (though, obvs, we could have figured it out for ourselves). He actually seems thrilled that people (mostly women) take such an interest in him and enjoys titillating them. Once they’re worked up about him, though, he disdains the attention.
His publicity obsession with his and Sherlock’s sex life at the moment is disturbing.
That was nothing to do with Sherlock and everything to do with promoting his own skills…the whole are article was HE, then I would do and I would do and I, I, I. That was weird, or a total piss take to wind up his beyotches, most of whom lost their shit over it. I thought it was kind of gross, tbh.
I love it when he bashes FanFiction and uses his name instead of “Sherlock”. Nobody is writing about him or Martin, they write about 2 specific characters. BBC Sherlock is the greatest piece of fan fiction I have ever seen LOL
I know what you mean Cee. He doesn’t seem to get that the fan fiction isn’t about him. To me, fan fiction is more about the fans really liking a show but it’s over so quickly and then there’s such a long wait in between. Fan fiction is a way of keeping it going, tiding yourself over until new eps come along. Or people just want to express themselves through writing and why set it in an already created universe? Sorry Ben it’s not about you. It’s about a detective who happens to look like you and have the same voice.
Here’s an article if anyone’s interested:
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/10/why-it-doesn-t-matter-what-benedict-cumberbatch-thinks-sherlock-fan-fiction
@Just Me – That was a great article. He should stay away from commenting on fiction unless it’s about those written about HIM.
I really like a lot of “Sherlock” fan fiction. Some of it is very smart and the characterizations are excellent. I’m reading one at the moment that is amazingly erudite. During the debacle that was Season 3 for me, I realized that I like Fan-Fiction Sherlock much better than the one on the show (and the show itself) anymore. I didn’t like the direction the writing or the characters went in. So, yes, Benedict, please do make the effort to understand that fan fiction about your character is not extended hero-worship of you (even though the FF Sherlock looks exactly like Benedict, granted. I mean, he makes one dishy consulting detective).
It’s a little embarrassing at secondhand, actually, to see him take it so personally. The genre has gone way beyond anything he is or does and is all about what is in the minds of the fan writers. It’s not about how much people love Benedict Cumberbatch or love putting him in the sexy situations that he thinks is the sum total of the genre, though his continuing impression that it is makes me wonder whether he doesn’t get off on it, ego-wise.
He’s ok. I don’t get the attraction to his looks at all. He has a nice voice. He’s a good actor. But he’s one of those people who sound like idiots in print interviews. I don’t know….There’s something just really off in the way he talks. Seems really immature. And what does “twinkle” mean in the context of this interview? Still trying to figure that out.
I think he’s good looking, nice lips and I wouldn’t mind having a long gaze into those aqua eyes, they’re fascinating. The ‘twinkle’ comment is yet another example to me of his motor mouth and not knowing when to STFU. First he makes fun of the internet lingo “I love you so much, all the feels, squidgies, LOL! Awkward!’ ” and then he says something like “it makes me twinkle”. Jesus, really, shut up….
It’s a compulsive thing…he can’t help it lol
I know, I’m gathering that now. I used to think he’d be awesome to have dinner with or talk to for a while and he certainly would carry the conversation, but I think after while I would begging him to just shut it – be quiet – stop talking…. The kind of person that when you ask him what time it is he tells you how to make a watch. Argh….that could get old.
In my experience it’s a clear sign of nerves and insecurity…
Oh God, I read “twinkle” and all I could picture was Robert Pattinson sparkling in Twilight and… I need coffee.
Twinkle, BC? Really? Cause lately I’ve been having a hard time telling the difference between you and your wax work.
OHHey : “Ask him what time it is and he tells you how to make a watch”, this is why I come here. Brilliant!
@Cee, exactly. You really don’t want to inspire people to start mockingly referring to you as Twinkles. He better hope no one picks up on this on UK television.
Gawd, it makes me think of an ancient episode of Frasier and a bit of Dr. Honey Snow pablum: “You don’t have to be a star to twinkle…” Deep thoughts, Cumby!
BenEdict’s mind right now
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SWF9i3Vzpac/TMdlSYS0SwI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/LSS-6cOc4qM/s1600/Edward+Norton+blinking.gif
lol 🙂
Now THAT is pure talent.
I love Edward Norton.
He looks like a younger redhead Dennis Quiad to me.
I’m cranky this morning but I deleted my nasty comment. So…
Cake. Ceramic Cockatoos. Mimosa. Yada yada yada
Mark and Colin have moved the refreshments out into the yard and they don’t plan to replenish the supply today. So, get there fast or go hungry and thirsty. Oh, they could only find three ceramic cockatoos.
Lilac, they are out of absinthe. This and the Cumbers$!t I cannot abide this morning. *Feeling stabby*
posted below so wiped it
I went back and deleted my mean Kardashian comment. Sounds like you and I are just delightful to be around today, Jaderu.
I’m cranky because Tater was left off the Sexiest Man Alive list.
And because I have no cake.
@Jaderu – People’s treatment of Tater is nothing short of criminal. Where’s the spud respect? SMH in disgust.
You said cake.
Cake.
Mmmmmm.
Hey, it’s my birthday today. Do you think one of you could get Colin to run out and fetch me a birthday cake? Someone said they had a German Chocolate upthread but I didn’t want to be rude and ask for a piece. I’d also like to have Hiddles join in on my birthday festivities, maybe he could jump out of the cake? Sing? Oh, yes, and can I have a pony, too?
BTW, BC is NOT invited! He has gotten on my last nerve with all this nonsense.
Happy Birthday! 😀
Happy birthday lovely lady!
Merci beaucoup!
Happy BDay Green Eyes… Have lots of fun…
Happy Birthday! Please feel free to keep the pony, (you’re welcome) , I will take the icing-covered Hiddles home with me for a nice bath. 😉
Happy Birthday! I’m sure Hiddles will give you a nice Hank performance, singing you happy birthday in his southern twang.
The new anne Hathaway…
I understand he is doing promo but at this point the subject of the movie is lost by the actor daily life too bad ….. Hope the promo tour is over soon
EDIT: I just read this article after making the post and saw the anne Hathaway reference 🙂 That my new nickname for him for now
My two cents I was sick of Anne with an E because she was so dang disingenuous about everything. I was fine with her campaigning since all stars do it, she was just so fake and rehearsed that got me. I am still not a fan after she tried to claim to being cyberbullied.
AnnE is such a phony and I doubt she’s getting an Oscar nod anytime in the near future so she better covet the undeserved one she has.
@SkinnyFatHunnam yeah I think she was hoping to get a nom for Interstellar according to behind the scenes scuttlebutt 🙂 I think that Jessica Chastain has a better chance of pulling out a nom for that movie than anyone else but besides cleaning up on the technical awards I don’t think that one is going to get any acting noms.
Chastain is running for supporting for the other movie last I read
@aly yeah I think she should but I guess Nolan is getting ragey at her doing press for the other one. I don’t know how true that is but I think Nolan is upset that his movie isn’t as big as a blockbuster and word of mouth thing like Inception was.
starry: admittedly, I’m not a big fan of Nolan. I’ve read very mixed opinions about Interstellar — I think it’s been underwhelming? (I have no clue, I wouldn’t sit through a movie with both MM and Anne Hathaway if they paid me)
So, is he gonna be Benny AnnE? BennE Cumberway? Or maybe Hathabatch?
@Mimi – ITA. His “personal” life has shat on TIG which is why I think TTOE will perform better.
Zzzzzzzzzzz
He is lying and I am officially board by him.
No wonder they are milking his private life, he’s got nothing else to go on.
I’m with you. There’s so much pr now I just can’t…. And (at least to me) it’s so painfully obvious. “I’m not campaigning” (is all over the place campaigning). “I don’t want people in my private life” (announces engagement 2 days before press tour and gives sound bites to vogue and people).
Ugggg.
in other news, Hiddles is tearing it up in Lousian, fantastic reviews from the set on his singing and universally loved by everyone, and apparently he’s entertaining people by telling jokes and mooning them (that’s quite a cute moon he’s got there as well…). That’s the guy I want. Sophistication with a hint of frat boy. Bring it, Junior.
Can he moon me? I would do a happy dance in return.
@OhHey, I have to ask, what is mooning? 🙂
It is when you show your bare rear end to someone as a joke.
I’d do a happy dance too, LOL, but he might get it back with bite marks in it, he’s got quite a nice bum. Seems a bit out of character for him but things are wild down there in the south, I guess. I bet the wrap party is going to be a hoot.
Tommy can bring it, alright. Road trip, anyone?
Um, yes to the road trip. I think I’m about…googling…what? Only 5 hours away? Why am I not there??
Oh, not a stalker and have to pick the kid up from school.
Sads. 🙁
I’ve got nothing going, sign me up for the road trip… there was a good picture released yesterday, apparently some extra snuck it and was fired for doing it, but it showed him in costume (white pants, HELLO!), he looked amazing. Yeahhhhh….when do we leave?
@Sighs – Wouldn’t it be better if he just said “Every actor would love to win an Oscar and have their work recognised. I am very proud of this movie, I want Alan Turing’s life and work to be known as much as possible, and I loved having the opportunity of playing him”? Instead of all the PR-gagness he has been spouting ever since.
Nobody likes fakes. Everyone knows actors want to WIN and be the BEST. Own up to being career-driven and ambitious. He has the talent to go with an Oscar. But his “personality” is boring me to tears.
@OhHey I am seriously concerned that his emersion into red neck good old Alabama boy may become permanent, He is just having way to much fun to give it all up for hIs “boring” old life in the UK.
Plus he may have caught Cumby’s all revealing repetitions Oscar campaign and decided selling your soul is just not as much fun as showing your beautiful ass.
He can say here if he wants, I would like to not see him make the same mistakes as Cumby has – he seems to have gotten some really shit advice or at least has had to deal with HW whether he likes it or not, but dealing with him and selling your soul are two different things. I wonder if he was as surprised as everyone else to see the engagement notice, love to be a fly on the wall when he read that. From what people are saying, the ISTL could be a really important movie for him based on his performance and his ability to transform. He doesn’t need that crazy ass campaigning and an arranged marriage.
His head is firmly up his ass right now. And I see this Oscar campaign and his crazy personal life blowing up in his face in the next few months.
Actually, it’s already imploding as we speak. But the big blow up is on the way. And it’s going to be hard to watch. I already feel bad for him.
me too. and you’re a saint for puting my feelings in words. Lets just not wait any energy on this BS anymore
I’m kind of sick of it all, too. I think I’m gonna jump ship to the SS Lord Hiddleston. He’s much more fun than the ghost ship SS Lord Cumby.
Tomorrow’s headline: Benedict Cumberbatch ate pancakes for breakfast: 980 comments. Who is the guy behind him opening the door? He’s cute.
The photoshoot is ridiculous. They could’ve conveyed the same message with more humour and at least a bit of self-deprecation. The Beatles were much more gracious in their similar photos (which were obviously used as inspiration for this photoshoot).
Cumberbatch’s words about him not campaigning and not having TIME to do it had me snorting out loud. Just own your game already, ffs, and stop being so pretentious. *This* is what I strongly dislike about his attitude.
Also, Ben’s profile is so much not his forte. Just saying.
sexist IMO
Yeah I always thought his profile was gorgeous. It depends on the angle though because of his chins lol I love him though.
It was two monthls ago, before TIG won the people’s choice award at TIFF. Do you think he had a choice to say no after that? Hell, Keira is campaigning and she genuinely hates that stuff. Patricia Arquette is campaigning, Ed Norton, Steve Carrell…and wait until the unbroken cast starts to.
@aly unbroken has started 🙂 See Lainey today and the Variety article. I can’t wait to see that movie, it looks phenomenal. And so much pretty 🙂
@aly, sorry but I do not understand what you’re trying to prove to me. I’ve written many times here on this board – and I think that one of my comments on the topic was addressed to you, iirc – that I actually enjoy watching actors campaigning and have zero problem with it. I’d go as far as saying that if you really want to look beneath an actor’s persona, you need to see him campaigning. The problem, I repeat, is not the fact that he’s campaigning. The problem is that he STILL insists that he has no time to campaign! This disingenuity is very off-putting. No-one is forcing him to declare out loud that YES, he’s campaigning his ass off, but he should stop insisting that he doesn’t have time to campaign.
Also, I think that every actor can say no if they want to. Cumberbatch wants that Oscar and he agreed to play Weinstein’s game to get that Oscar. He could have refused to campaign if he really wanted to. Please, let us not make a victim out of him.
Right? Fassbender didn’t campaign this time around. Bill Murray doesn’t (anymore). I’ve barely seen Michael Keaton around.
@Intro Outro: sorry, so sorry…I realize I was a bit harsh and I didn’t mean to. *hangs head *
Oh, no…he’s not a victim, I don’t think he is. I think he’s uncomfortable with some aspects of the campaign, but a victim he ain’t. Sorry again for the tone of my post. Some comments got to me:(
starry: I noticed.
sighs: I’m not familiar with how Fassbender dealt with the whole thing, but from what I read he campaigned hard for Shame, only after things didn’t go well he decided (smart man) he wouldn’t do it any more.
Murray campaigned hard back in the day and was pretty vocal in his disappointment when it didn’t lead him to an Oscar. Plus, HW is not pushing his movie.
Hell, when you have a 3 time oscar winner campaigning hard and smearing another movie to get a Oscar nod, you get how crazy this thing really is *hai Meryl*
Of course Harvey owns you, but he is the one with the stilted performance. I think the disconnect is that he is at war more with his own ambitions than anything else. I actually am starting to admire Fassy more because of this. And I usually think he is more of an overgrown frat boy.
At the end of the day, Ben wants this. He isn’t just an innocent victim here.
@aly, cheers! ^_^ It’s alright. I understand you. I absolutely agree that he is uncomfortable with some aspects of Weinstein’s game but he is still playing along because, in addition to wanting that Oscar, ATM it is frankly too late to duck out and it could do more damage to his career than if he had refused to campaign from the start. I sympathise with him. But I still can’t help cringing at the attitude he’s showing, at some aspects of his behaviour and at how forced some of his PR refurbishment, Weinstein style, is.
@Madly: in a way it’s endearing (cringe inducing as well but we know that), because it shows that he’s not phony, he’s not sold himself completely. Maybe by the next batch of appearences (terrible involontary pun) things will be better because he won’t have to answer to questions about the engagement, it’ll be old news. If he gets nominated, he’ll have to schmooze members of the academy, networking and he’s good at that. I’m trying to think about what they have in store for December/January…any theories?
@IntroOutro: I don’t like it either, I think Ben is also thinking about the aftermath…because either way by February 23 he’ll have a bit of a situation to work out…
id assume aly meant all of his ‘campaign’ comments were from before he started campaigning. hasnt said anything since then
neither is his role as a romantic cinema in his DNA if his engagement is anything to go by.
And what was all the boasting about going to school with millionaire’s son’s about. If that is the best thing he can say about a £30,000 education he ain’t a good advert for the public (private for USA residents) system .Or was it family tradition as well.
I think that was clearly a swipe at the pressure he was getting from Weinstein, and it seems he’s found the time now, so really, who’s in charge…..
That pic of Cumby running from his adoring fans is doing wonders for curing my cumbercrudh. All I can think is eeew- cheesy! Many years ago I saw ben stiller (another ben!) On the cover with a similar pose. Career has cooled since then.
Upper crusty Brit phony. I do not understand women finding him sexy, hot or handsome at all.
I don’t get it either, yes he’s a wonderful actor, but handsome and sexy he’s not IMO.
He’s on the same looks level as Chris Martin a somewhat attractive nerdy type, just OK, nothing special.
Here we go again.
I swear if he were another actor, you guys would have had his throat by now cos of his VERY obvious oscar campaign.
And could he be any more sappy?
Like “am so likeable and sweet that chocolate has nothing on me”.
I used to think he is rather cool but now? Not. At. All.
Ugh!
If he were another actor?
I can’t think of anyone (even Anne) who has gotten THIS much criticism for an Oscar campaign. Ever. It’s the frenzied backlash, actually, that has people like me giving him the benefit of the doubt. If there weren’t 1,000 comments trying to debunk his elaborate conspiracy every day, I’d probably be annoyed by the lack of consistency. You guys are making the story about the backlash, not about the man himself. The notion of strangers being *this* invested is more ludicrous than the idea of an actor doing what the studio tells him to do.
Uhm…as far as the engagement goes I think it’s PR. Sorry, but too many things don’t add up to me. That said, I agree with you about the rest.
He is receiving criticism because of the way he and HW have conducted their Oscar campaign. Since the backlash appears to be massive and not just on this site, I would say that there is a concensus. Are you concered that you are now in the minority of people who see no evil? They should have known that they would be criticized but I bet they didn’t expect this much WELL DESERVED side eye.
What? Slow down there.
I see no “evil” in Hollywood hypocrisy, no. I reserve that term — and the emotions it generates — for genocide, hate crimes, sexual violence, animal cruelty, factory farming, etc. I don’t know or care if his relationship is real, and I definitely don’t care if he wants an award; none of us know anything about him as a human being, so speculation seems kind of pointless.
This is part of the problem: you jumped to conclusions for no reason and turned this into something that’s bigger than it needs to be.
I never said anything about whether he deserved criticism or not. I was simply responding to a comment that claimed he was getting special treatment, when I’ve seen exactly the opposite. Your whole comment just proved my point: you referred to the backlash as “massive”, which is completely at odds with the comment I was referring to.
moodgirl: the thing is…I think the *real* campaign hasn’t started yet. Personally, except for gossip sites I’m not seeing a big backlash against him, a bit of *wink, wink, nudge nudge* at the timing of the announcement, a bit of “He’s everywhere!” but all in all, people don’t seem realizing that there’s something wrong.
Here we go again.
I swear if he were another actor, you guys would have had his throat by now cos of his VERY obvious oscar campaign.
And could he be any more sappy?
Like “am so likeable and sweet that chocolate has nothing on me”. Ugh!
I used to think he is rather cool but now? Not. At. All.
We’ve been pretty much tearing him up for his campaign though–he’s 2014’s Anne Hathaway.
well apart from the few who are insisting he’s not campaigning, because he hasn’t had “VOTE FOR ME” tattooed on his forehead.
Wait for it…
Uh, I’ve been saying he’s campaigning since my first post, it drives me nuts when people go, “so much for not campaigning.” Things and circumstances change…he’s campaigning and he’s not denying it.
He has VOTE FOR ME tattooed on his a@@. Because it’s so sexy you know.
@moodgirl: the thirst is real, true…but you should see how other contender are being nicknamed elsewhere:)
Of course he’s campaigning. He wants an Oscar. The same way that MM was campaigning last year and actors and actresses always campaign. You know who I am sick of hearing about right now? Jennifer Anniston and her hustle for freaking Cake. That movie sucked and I am kind of appalled she may even get a GG nom so that that the HFA can get some eyes on the show in case they get Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie to show up. It serve them right if they are too busy filming By The Sea and don’t show. I am also sick of Reese Whiterspoon too since neither of her films remotely can touch how awesome Julianne Moore was in Still Alice. If there is any justice in the world she freaking sweeps every awards show this year.
Let’s call a spade a spade. All of us clamor for BC posts and it wasn’t until he came out engaged and walked the red carpet with his fiancee that everyone got sick of him.
LOL. I agree about Aniston. At least there have been clips and buzz for ages about TIG. All I know about Cake is that she has some fake scars on her face.
And Julianne Moore is amazing 🙂
Yeah I wish she go somewhere. If she scores a GG or SAG nom for Cake than I will know everything I need to know about how people get nominated.
Julianne Moore was mesmerizing. I just get worried since everyone thought that Viola Davis would take it for The Help and instead Meryl Streep got it. Which is why I think behind the scenes campaigning works just as much as being in your face all the time.
Aniston will never happen. Julianne has the Oscar in the bag, like Cate Blanchette did last year.
^^THIS^^
And it’s about damn time.
Couldn’t agree more. She’s beyond amazing
When I eventually saw it I found blanchett in blue whatever it was that she won the oscar for to be very overhyped, not bad but not outstanding. Sally Hawkins in the same film was much better
Jennifer is doing more acting for the Oscar than she did in the movie. Charlene Theron won by being unattractive so Jennifer thinks it will work for her.
@moodgirl high five to you and very true. And yeah she does think look at me no makeup and a scar = Oscar.
Noooo. i started lurking many months ago and the cynicism started way back then. The PR engagement – and his crappy attitude – just sent it over the top.
@aly I pray it doesn’t. I keep thinking of Marisa Tomei and I get scared. A lot of people don’t think she has it in the bag since Reese is campaigning behind the scenes. She also had her whole op-ed piece too.
starry: Marisa Tomei is 10000000 better than Jen Aniston. Reese is powerful, but AMPAS voters won’t give her another Oscar. Plus, she’s campaigning more for Gone Girl (she’s a producer).
As much as i love his work – i’m so over him (and his new ‘tude) as a public figure. I will watch Hollow Crown and Sherlock but won’t be going to see TIG purely ’cause all the crap surrounding him about his ‘i don’t have time to campaign for an oscar’ oscar campaign and the shilling of his personal relationship like his life depended on it. He needs to grow up and just own the campaigning and selling of his soul to HW for a shot at the golden statue.
And hell yes to the person above who said his head is up his ass – its in so far he can’t see. He’s buying into his own hype and thinks he’s more famous than he really is – he ain’t no George Clooney with his Amal. BC has never carried a successful movie before and the laudits around this one is going to his little head.
I don’t think he’ll get a nomination, the movie itself will – probably for screenplay or even best movie. IF (big if) any of the cast get a nom it will be Keira for supporting actress – he’s up against previous oscar winners and other actors who are ‘known’.
Actually all the frontrunners would be first time nominees this year.
Go take a look at specialized sites, or Variety…to see the predictions
I do think he will get a Nom unless a movie premieres in the next few months with such a male performance to change the boardgame.
But, being nominated and winning are two different things.
Here we go again.
I swear if he were some other actor, you guys would have had his throat by now cos he his VERY obvious oscar campaigning.
On the interview, could he be any more sappy? Like “am so likeable and sweet that chocolate has nothing on me”. Ugh!
It’s sad cos I used to think he is rather cool and down to earth but now? Not. At. All.
Nene, he’s been torn to shreds for the past two weeks. By his own fans.
LMAO ‘don’t have time for campaigning.’ not buying Benny-boy
That’s his campaign slogan.
he has wedding planning to do.
Et tu Penny :p
Find me a recent quote, one that doesn’t date to September, after TFF about him saying he wouldn’t campaign.
IMO he was being cautious, recalling what had happened last year to the Oscar buzz for TFE
he said it not so long ago, about 3 weeks or so ago, while filming Hollow Crown and the pics of him smoking a cig came out. – i am sure you can google it and find it. If you think i am going hunting Benny Google news feeds you’ve got another thing coming. Besides, i’ve got no problem if he wants to campaign and do every show in the Northern Hemisphere, just smile Benedict and stop being a snarky miserable c@£t
He is not even attractive! Don’t understand all the fuss!!
+10000
Eddie Redmayne is getting that Best Actor Oscar.
i would be happy if someone as young gets it. the Oscars has become all about the oldies
How old is Jared Leto?
He won supporting Oscar last year.
He looks young anyway.
Jared Leto is in his 40s
Jared also won the supporting actor Oscar which they are more likely to give to young people than the actor Oscar.
The last time young man won the best actor Oscar was Adrien Brody (at age 29) in 2002. Since then it has gone to older men.
From 2003-2013: Penn, Foxx, Seymour Hoffman, Whitaker, Day-Lewis, Penn (2nd), Bridges, Dujardin, Firth, Day-Lewis (3rd) and McConaughey.
So Keaton has a very good chance. I suspect voters will get bored with Eddie, he peeked too soon and he “seems too young”.
This also explains BC’s “grown, engaged man” campaign.
It’s going to be between Eddie and Michael Keaton.
i’d love both
Keaton will
Keaton.
Man, how infuriating would it be to lose to a younger, dorkier version of yourself, playing a part you’ve already played yourself.
Welcome to sherlock season 4!
My feelings are torn. I can’t work out why he doesn’t know what his best suit is. People love him because he’s dorky and unique (or once was), not because he’s got physique like Apollo. I mean, if he knew enough about himself to say that he wasn’t not a classic beauty, it just makes whatever he’s saying now even more laughable.
And the first thing about being a sex symbol, the minute you start to take it seriously, you look like an arrogant arsehole and he doesn’t have the charm and charisma to pull ‘I may have the personality of a dickhead but I am sex on legs’ persona off… It does make me wonder where this is all leading. But really, Benny, look at what you’ve done!
^^^^THIS^^^^^
To me it looks like he is committing longterm career suicide for the short-term goal of an Oscar.
@gg, I wouldn’t say a long-term career suicide. Outside the Internet world people are pretty senile and forgiving. (If they even know about all this award season drama to begin with, that is.) The Internet population can be senile and forgiving too, if you give it enough time. I just think he’s doing himself, his fans, and the woman he loves (according to him) a disservice at the moment. While his reasoning might be justifiable – since he clearly believe in what he’s doing now – the execution is tacky and obvious. I hope the reward is worth the cost.
If you sell your soul to the devil, even if you get it back in the end – it’s a soul that’s been sold to the devil.
People don’t live on the internet. My manager is a Sherlock fan and I heard her griping about BC and his antics with other managers just the other day. And if you think that people in the industry don’t realize what is going on then I think you have miscalculated. He has gone way over the top.
Well, that’s worrying…I think most of the hoopla will die down soon. He has work to do, so he won’t have time to do much press at least until SAG nominations come out. By then it’ll be clear what the actual chances for Oscar nods are.
FWIW, from what I read SAG members loved TIG and the actors’ performances, and ballot has started today.
I graduated with a B.S. degree in computer science many moons ago. The program for me was hard but rewarding. My mentor discussed various interesting topics concerning Turing. I was looking forward to seeing the movie. But the culmination of some events, actions, statements by a particular party more consumed by self & variations of words prefixed by self and seemingly not too concerned about it is offputting. And i was only following his work for a year. No longer following the work, no going back, no pass go, sincerely wish him well in future endeavors. *back to lurking*
Haha, that was a nice little paragraph. But seriously, said party is a moderately proficient actor, worth watching, though I think my dogs have more acting range. He’s always going to be the posh extravagant genius functional sociopath or whatever.
Off tangent, but this is what I found off putting about the Cumbperson: Meryl Streep jokingly criticized him about not wanting to live in the same building with the rest of the actors and crew while filming Osage County. He might have had good reasons, but, man, if you have a chance to share lodgings with Streep and Chris Cooper and the like, then don’t be a British snot and wake up and make them pancakes every morning!
All the nopes to that one for me. I think streep was gently ribbing him but even so, she has no right to impose her methods onto everyone she works with. That is hugely arrogant. A lot of actors need their own space and quite right too. In fact I admired him for sticking to his guns and not pandering to her despite the fact he admires her work so much.
The the thought of living with my workmates? Jeeeeeeesus no.
And anyway, whatever your opinion on cumbs campaign, at least he’s not smearing anyone else. Unlike dear Meryl who conveniently chose oscar season to decry Disney’s antisemitism when her main opponent was saving mr banks. Hmmm.
Sooooth, how are you today?
You’re trying to be clever and saying I’m sooth from the other threads yeah?
Uhhm why exactly? If I was sooth I’d post as sooth, what would be the benefit in that? Or am I encountering the crazy that everyone else keeps mentioning? have I rattled your cage by disagreeing about he streep thing or …
Calm down, love, I was just joking. Chill.
They showed a trailer for The Theory of Everything during the Daily Show commercials. I don’t get why everything is riding on the engagement. I’ve seen no trailers for TIG, no TV spots, and no posters. And yet, they make the Hollywood Reporter cover because of his engagement. This is so ridiculous. I know that the common American people probably don’t know that much about Turing but at least show what you are selling besides an engagement.
And what’s massively disappointing about that it is it really does look like a great movie. Awesome supporting cast. They didn’t need to do this.
Sometimes I think that Ben, at first, really thought that the movie and how good the cast is would be enough. When he talks about Turing I see the “old” Ben: full of passion, genuine.
Has any of you ever seen Trust the Man…with David Duchovny and Sigourney Weaver? It’s about how Hollywood turn something good (a pilot episode, very intellectual, poignant) into… hollywood crap, basically. I reccomend it.
That’s also the basis of the show Episodes with Matt LeBlanc. British couple had a successful tv show in UK and it’s brought to Hollywood where they basically change the whole show.
@Sigh I think he has overplayed the whole Turing story and has tried to build him up so much that that people are now questioning some of what he has said. People are not stupid they know what is promotion and what it truth.
Interstellar in it’s second week beat the box office takings of TIG so although the audiences have ben reasonable they have not been brilliant unless they pick uo next week
Agreed. Saw it at 92nd St Y. It is a quite good war time film with people disagreeing and then learning to get along for the common good. With some interesting side discussion about morality in war. Don’t know who’s running this campaign but they risk putting people off the film itself. And BC needs to shut up about the Gay Icon stuff. Lots of middle America people would be put off and really it’s not all that much about him being gay.
I saw a preview screening last week. Packed to the gills and everyone there loved it. But Felice is right; I’ve yet to see a TV commercial and I’ve only seen the trailer once.
I saw a trailer for TOE last weekend, followed by the trailer for TIG. This prior to viewing Birdman. Eddie looked great. Keaton delivered a very respectable performance. (Ed Norton stole every scene he was in – look for a supporting nomination for him.). Benny chewed every scene in that trailer. And as much as it pains me to say it, Kiera stole every scene in the trailer from Benny. (TOE opens this weekend, TIG the following weekend in my area – I’ll be seeing both.)
Saw a poster for TIG at the theater on monday.
Cool! Maybe if I decide to see Gone Girl again there will be posters finally.
He said he has a vision about the wedding. A GUY having vision about the wedding planning and still its not FAKE!! LOL
I’m envisioning serviettes and lilac dresses idek why
He’s broody and feminine I’ll give him that but if the guy gave me his whole vision of a wedding, I would back away slowly.
LOL!
veeeeeeeery slowly.
I dated a man who wanted to pick the ring, the dress, the theme and colors…everything. He was a groomzilla.
I didn’t know the groomzilla expression love it^^
groomzilla!! OMFG 😀
#runsophierun
(Not my idea. Someone posted it earlier in the week)
BTW, where’d the vision quote come from? Missed that one.
He has been saying a lot *things* lately, hasn’t he? One more ridiculous and disingenuous than the other.
He cannot keep the story straight anymore which, of course, is the most important sing of a lie.
Maybe his vision of the wedding is that it won’t ever happen.
More like his prayer and ardent wish:)
he is praying it. and have u guys seen the pursing of the lips(devil wears prada refrnc) whenever he talks about the enGAGement. Also notice the sideways head nod when talking-negating what he is saying. leaning to the left activating the creative part of the brain often used for manufacturing a lie
Ha! It is always a side turn to the left, isn’t it? Now that you mention it… It’s his tell.
Where did he say he had a vision of the wedding? From shaking his head NO at a reporter who asked and from clamming up completely suddenly he’s all talky about the wedding plans. SCHIZO, I tell you.
Ah but he said it the day after shaking off the reporter–to People. HW’s lapdog (one of ’em anyway). He said it to the “right” media source, not “just anyone” on the red carpet.
Oh fer chrissakes……that’s making me sick.
Maybe he indeed has a vision of a wedding that contains a different bride. And that would be it.
I would be willing to bet he’s got a notebook or folder full of ideas for his wedding.
It looks like his publicist is wearing lace tights in those pictures. I wish she’d get a stylist. Seems like she wears a lot of age inappropriate clothes. Specifically, I’m thinking of the oscar thing last year when she wore a super low-cut dress and there was a video of Cumberbatch being interviewed with her in the background adjusting her boobs.
I still don’t understand why Karon (the publicist) is in the picture at all. She doesn’t even try to get out of the picture in the shots and I thought that was a no-no. Plus she dresses like a Dockyard Doris at all these high-profile events. WTF?
Someone on EB theorized that she is actually BC’s girlfriend but because there are all sort of levels of NO with that, he is parading around with SH who is more age (and wardrobe!) appropriate. I thought it was funny at the time, but I must say that I sometimes wonder.
Nah…even when she was Eddie Izzard’s main PR, she was always right up on him. She’s very pushy, rumor has it, and VERY up in the faces of anyone wanting to talk to her client.
All publicists are in their client’s photos, you just don’t recognize them. Hiddleston and Emma Watson’s publicist Luke is always in the background.
Actors hire and pay their personal publicist themselves. Studios have people to help , but it’s the actor’s publicist who is responsible for the long term image.
However Harvey is known for meddling with PR a lot more than normal studios do. Hence this clusterf*ck. But HW will dumb BC in February and things will go back to normal(-ish).
@Missmary -Karon is ok as far as publicists go. They are all pushy. Google Bryna Rifkin.
Luke Windsor has a nervous energy around him when a fan says hi to him. Karon I hear is really really nasty.
Dockyard Doris, lol.
I’m over Benedict. They are really trying to sell this guy as the new big star but he’s not charismatic. Him and Tom are in the same lane. Talented narcissists.
I find Tom a bit more humble, honestly.
Tom takes himself less seriously but gets down to business when necessary.
Yeah, I don’t mind Tom. He’s kind of BC without the broom handle up his backside.
This isn’t a comment about the post. This is a comment about the comments and the records you guys are breaking with them!!! Wowza!! This blog comes out around 11pm here, so I don’t have the stamina or hours ( I need sleep) to get involved on these off the chart amount of comments on all things otter. But I always jump on first thing in the morning to read and see how many comments Benedict has scored for the day. Keep up the good work people, Id like to see it hit 900 ,but the big one would be over 1000. So my fellow CB get posting!!!!
I’m not focusing on the otters campaign. I’m campaigning to get the comments up to the big 1000. So expect gift baskets, bribes & me gushing over how great your post was.
#onepost1000ottercomments2014
I agree, Aussiegirl. The comment numbers are the most exciting thing to happen around here since…..when was that? It was something to do with a sexy Alien…..
I’m sorry, I really haven’t been quite myself since 5 November. There was some kind of trauma that day that caused me to lose my short-term memory.
But I also want to see this thread hit 1,000 comments. I would do my best to help it get there, if only I could remember what we were talking about.
I never thought I’d so soon (just became a fan earlier this year) but I’m getting sick of the Batch. Not just the incessant coverage, but his seeming personality disorder and the WTFuckery surrounding the engagement – the whitewashing of her CV, her meh-ness, the ridiculous hyping up of her credentials, the cloak and dagger before the announcement, the dumb statements (“we didn’t walk the red carpet together at LFF cos we were not engaged then, no need to show off!”). Everything smacks of disingenuity and it is MIGHTY off-putting.
Re the Oscars, I’d love to see Keaton win. I’ve watched TIG and it is underwhelming. Basically a formulaic biopic with some seriously cringeworthy dialogue in parts. The two standouts were Alex Lawther (the boy who plays young Turing) and Keira (surprise!). BC was not bad but he overacted somewhat – every sentence was punctuated with a facial twitch which made his performance rather laboured to me. I much prefer him in more naturalistic roles like Third Star.
This!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Beth, that’s the impression of BC’s acting that I got from the trailers. Even though I’m sick of him, I was a Cumberb*tch (used as self-deprecating term) for over a year and have residual fondness for him. And I still think he’s strangely gorgeous. So, what I mean is, I don’t bear him ill will or want him to fail. Having said that, I find the little I’ve seen of his performance as Turing in trailers and clips to be overworked and distracting. I’m really curious to see the young actor, though, since everyone says he’s amazing.
@ Lu: The young actor is wonderful; there is one particular scene in which he’s very impressive.
Keira, whom I’ve always pegged as wooden, gives a very refreshing and warm performance. It helps that her character is immensely likable – intelligent, feminine, sweet, kind and understanding.
I realise I’m in the minority as so many people raved about BC’s performance but I really though it was overwrought. Turing did have a stammer in real life and apparently there is no video footage or audio clips of him so BC had to work off a blank slate here, but I still thought the mannerisms were distracting and more importantly, came across as very deliberate rather than natural. As a result I didn’t feel as much empathy for his interpretation of Turing, cos I couldn’t shake off the awareness that here is an actor on the screen, ACTING.
I also thought he was hammy as hell as Khan in Star Trek. My fave roles of his are as the cancer patient in Third Star and as Vincent Van Gogh.
Beth, I have low tolerance for tricksy, actory flourishes like that. I read about BC’s process for doing this, and it sounds fascinating and speaks of his dedication, but if it doesn’t seem natural, then all it’s doing is showing off technique. Khan is what gave me the Hot Pants for him ;-). I recently saw his Van Gogh and just cried so hard at the end. BC can have such vulnerability sometimes. I think that’s one reason people get so attached to him through his performances. And it’s a big reason for me why all these personal glimpses of him are turning me off; I didn’t think he could really have as much arrogance as I, at times, suspected he did. But he does.
@Lu
I love his Van Gogh, and agree that his vulnerability was beautifully rendered. I like BC best when he isn’t trying to be too actorly, like in TIG or Parade’s End (I dislike Tietjens’ stick-in-the-mud character and IMO BC kinda went overboard with the facial expressions with the lower part of his mouth warbling throughout). Not sure if it’s a by product of him being also a theatre actor. I watch some NTLive screenings and when the camera zooms in on their faces I can see their expressions and delivery are rather exaggerated. I can understand those flourishes in a theatre setting as you have audiences sitting far away, but for films I prefer a more naturalistic approach.
I haven’t read the article about his approach for Turing – is that recent? If it is I’d have likely missed it as I’m not really following his interviews closely anymore, apart from this site. I think he is overexposed but most of all, I really don’t like the new pissy, Jekyll-and-Hyde BC who gives me disingenuous vibes. I’ve noticed the change even before the engagement announcement. He was like a refreshing breath of air in the past because he seemed earnest, goofy and genuinely thankful for the support and career highlights he has had. Sadly, that’s no longer the BC I see.
@Beth, the article was recent, yes, but I can’t remember where it was. It was someone else, maybe a screenwriter or reviewer, talking about BC’s character prep. Wish i could remember more specifically.
Eta: I agree completely with your second para. My disenchantment pre-dates the SGF and engagement, but this has killed off my warm feelings altogether, i think. I’ll still follow his work, but not with the same enthusiasm. To my surprise, I’ve learned that he is not someone I can really like and respect. Well, i do respect him as a human being, but i don’t appreciate his newfound superiority and self-absorption. Oh, have you seen him in “Stuart”? I liked him in that. It was a good role for him at that stage of his life and career.
@Lu
Yep I’ve watched Stuart A Life Backwards and I liked BC in it. Tom Hardy stole the show though; he certainly had the “flashier” role and was heartbreaking to watch.
Re the personality change: I realise showbusiness is of course not the paragon of honesty and virtue, but the recent SGF and engagement hoopla, the blatant fan-baiting with the Sherlock-Irene Adler fantasies and then the pissy behaviour towards fans (eg, at the Penguins Tumblr Q&A), the I’ve-No-Time-To-Campaign-But-I’m-Totally-Campaigning… it’s just too much change, too suddenly. It has gotten to a point where, even if he says something sweet or grateful in future, I’d no longer be going “awwww” but instead be wondering if he is being genuine. I don’t expect the celebs I like to be all pandering and chummy with fans, but I do not like a manufactured image. The lead singer of my favourite band is very private and doesn’t interact much with fans, but I still adore him – he so who he is and he owns it, and is consistent.
I hate his boasting about the education he got. Tom Hiddleston went to even better schools and he doesn’t go around saying it. I’m so sick of Benedict at this point, I swear.
In context, it seems like he’s trying to downplay his poshness, not brag about how he went to X and X schools. (The first sentence of the paragraph with the quote says that he insists that he’s the People’s Otter (author’s words, not his).)
Ha. He’s getting snobby about cheap champagne when mixing top shelf whiskey/scotch should be a crime.
This is his now or never moment. Even though he’s coming on really strong, I hope it works out. It would be nice to see him in more films.
THIS
Long time lurker here. I know I am late to the conspiracy train but here is my take on this mess.
When HW bought movie in February he told Ben he needs to be in relationship for the Oscars, fake or real. I think Ben wanted a real relationship and he started to “audition”. But it was not working out so in late spring HW decided to take matter in his own hands. He introduced Ben to Sophie. I have a feeling Sophie was not the first person HW introduced to Ben. This time they clicked. They knew each other from before and had many friends in common. Plus Sophie was not busy with her career and was willing to play the game. I think Ben liked her but he didn’t love her and was not in love with her. That’s why he continued dating other people and that’s why we saw him with different dates through September and October. Then in November HW decided they need more exposure and wanted them to show up for LFE together. I don’t think Ben was happy but he couldn’t say no to HW. That now infamous walk alone was Ben’s passive-aggressive way of displaying his unhappiness. However that didn’t generate enough publicity and HW decided to be more aggressive. I don’t think Ben put that announcement in the paper. It was Harvey’s people and they forgot one of his initials. Ben was probably told in advance but didn’t really have any say in it. He perhaps told his parents and that’s why there was no statement from them.
Ben knows he need to play the game but he is a decent person and he is not happy with it. The “serious actor” persona they are pushing is not a real Ben. He is a goofy dork who likes to giggle.
Sounds plausible. To say that he has passive aggressive tendencies would probably be an understatement. And he has never said how they met up this time around. Hmmmm…….you may be on to something 😉
@moodgirl I’m sure every one else is thinking the same. It makes this even more sloppy. Just hope that he either gets the Oscar or gets out of this mess so he can find someone he genuinely likes.
more and more articles are coming out about this being staged relationship. the days r passing and thr act is falling apart.
@Lucifer -Unfortunately, more eyebrows are raised, more PR will make adjustments and try to correct the situation. Cue the romantic pap pics in one, two…
What a mess…
@Lucifer: where?
plausible!! totally
Every girl I know called her mother/parents/siblings shortly after she accepted a marriage proposal.
BUT
SH’s mother and brother said they just found out “this morning” to a reporter, on the same day it was announced in the Times. It takes at least a day or two between calling in the announcement and posting it in the paper. Quite a bit of time to make a call.
So she did not call her mother? The mother that she is very close to, according to some papers??? That just seems very unusual to me.
OK *breathes in deeply* – here goes my first ever comment on a gossip site… Please bear with me!
Basically, I’ve given up trying to made head or tail of this mess. I’ve read through all the threads (great stuff, ladies – thank you!), and have literally no clue what’s going on – somehow all the PR manouevring is coming across as both deeply planned out and incredibly amateurish at the same time. It certainly doesn’t read like the slick PR machine I’d expect from HW. Not even going there on the engagement, and as for the campaigning/not campaigning – totally disingenuous.
I’m not a super-invested BC fan – only started following him a year or so ago. Love him as an actor, found his intelligent public persona refreshing (although now I’m thinking it’s mainly education and polish rather than true intellect – I’ve spent a lot of time with ex-Harrow/Eton types and that’s often the case). But I’m already pretty much at saturation point with him already, and campaign season has barely got going. Even my mum’s sick of the sight of him (“Not that strange-looking one again!”), and she’s utterly clueless when it comes to celebrities!
Just worried that this whole PR ‘strategy’ (and I use the inverted commas advisedly) is going to end up backfiring massively. I’m not sure the whole ‘serious leading man’ and ‘pandering to Middle America’ thing is going to pay off. BC is simply not conventional leading man material, and I think it’s a shame that he’s trying to be. From where I stand, the current PR circus is alienating his more intelligent fans, making the crazy ones even crazier and increasingly leaving the wider public bemused (not to mention bored stiff).
Saw TIG on Sunday, btw (I’m in London). Very good movie – not quite great imo – felt a bit ‘safe’ to me and didn’t really pack an emotional punch. BC was terrific as Turing. Probably a fairly safe bet for an Oscar nom, I’d imagine, although I think MK or BM have the edge for the win, especially if BC’s campaign continues in the same disastrous vein. Really liked Keira in it too, and I’m not always a fan of her acting.
Hope all of this turns out OK for BC; I’m beginning to think he has a lot of unresolved issues, and none of this Oscars hoopla is helping matters. It’s all a bit sad really.
Excellent post. Everything I’ve ever wanted to say…thank you. xx
(And, yes, I posted yesterday with a positive comment about BC & SH…because I don’t think SH is his problem. IMHO, all the fans who keep pointing at SH and claiming she’s the problem are missing the point.)
Thank you This is the first time I read a post with someone who critic the PR but doesn’t diss SH 🙂 BC is the problem lol
Thanks – trying not pass judgement on the SH thing as it just seems so…messy. And pretty soul-destroying for everyone concerned I’d imagine.
Feels weird commenting on any of it, tbh – I don’t follow actors as a rule, but BC’s sort of …intriguing? And complicated. Think that’s part of the problem, actually – of course he has his fair share of crazy fans (the scary vocal ones), but, just going by my friends who like him, he also appeals to plenty of people who don’t really ‘do’ the whole celebrity thing, and who admired his intelligence and integrity. Which makes it all the more jarring when it turns out he’s ultimately just playing the game like the rest of them.
Platospopcorn: I agree. I don’t think SH is the problem.
@MIMI: “This is the first time I read a post with someone who critic the PR but doesn’t diss SH”.
Sorry, I know that it’s very easy to get lost in the whirlwind of hundreds of comments, but just FYI: I can quote at least 5 regular posters (in addition to myself) who have never dissed SH – Lilacflowers, Jammypants, Isadora, Sixer, ‘P’enny – and who instead focused on Cumberbatch’s campaign.
Er…I’ve never dissed her either…:)
@aly – yep, sorry! I just named those posters who I’ve known for almost a year now, they were the first who popped up in my mind.
@InnieOutie, yea I don’t really have much to say SH. She’s pretty and, to me, seems alright. Oh my! Has it really been a year? I think it has! I enjoyed the TDW promo chatter this time a year ago. What fun.
Thanks for thumbs up, i am defo dissing the PR strategy, i said all along, i think he torn between two PR strategies HW and Karon’s and it’s not mixing well at all. oil and water.
That said, I did have a stab at Sophie’s inability to smile properly at NYC premiere for someone who has modelling credentials, she looked like a startled deer in headlights.
I honestly wonder how much of the wtfery isn’t just BC not wanting to do the intense HW campaigning but Karon not “implementing” it “correctly” since HW’s main campaign person isn’t there this year—no oversight, maybe?
IntroOutro: it’s okay…:)
@Intro
I’m going to happily out myself as an SH music video disser! So bad, it’s good.
And I’m sure she’ll provide me with some fertile material for further mockery at some point – don’t they all?
But I know what you mean: I’m an equal opportunities mocker. They get famous. They do or say ridiculous things (and they all do that). I laugh at them. That’s my modus operandi and it’s always served me well.
I don’t hate SH. I could care less. Whether is engagement is a cause or a further symptom of his weird behavior doesn’t really matter to me either. He just needs to get a hold of his bad attitude and right this ship before it sinks completely
I’ve never had a problem with SH and even defended her a couple of times. My issue is with the way Ben’s alternatively baiting and dissing fans and acting disingenuous in his Oscar campaign.
I did diss her video though… ugh.
I really like what you said about his absence of ‘true intellect’… It’s not because he went to a famous school that he is smart. I have a phd in law and I don’t think I’m smart…
On the movie, BC is good but like you said the movie is so safe (oscars movie with no risk).
He does bang on about Harrow, doesn’t he? It’s clearly a great school, but tbh its reputation isn’t really for rigorous academia. I attended a state grammar, but met plenty of old Harrovians at university – was totally intimidated by them at first, until I realised that many of them were all style and no substance. BC gives a similar impression – waffles on for ages sounding terribly erudite, without ever getting to the actual point. For me, true intelligence is the ability to sum up a complex argument in a few words.
And yes – TIG kind of reminded me of one of those cosy period dramas the BBC often shows on a Sunday evening, only with better acting! (Although the acting itself was admittedly very good.)
To be fair, he does admit in the interview that he’s “pretend clever.” He’s also talking about his schooling in order to downplay it – this is the paragraph where the interviewer discusses his education:
But he is, he insists, the people’s otter: He went to the public University of Manchester and the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art, after boarding at Harrow for secondary school—which, okay, is possibly a little wankerish (Winston Churchill was an alumnus), but keep in mind Cumberbatch was the only son of actors who he says “worked very hard to afford me that education, because it was one of the most expensive educations you could buy a child then. I’ll put it this way: I went to school with princes and kings and people who, you know, owned oil fields, or who were able to buy buildings for the school.” The awful secret, he says, is that despite having played Stephen Hawking and physicist Werner Heisenberg and Vincent van Gogh, not to mention math genius Turing and the No. 1 consulting detective of 221B Baker Street, “I’m pretend clever. I’m not actually clever.”
Yes Floribunda! These are exactly the same things I’ve been getting at as well. Great post.
How did a HW campaign go so far off track in the first place?
I honestly think it’s because of the internet…
@aly Yes, I do wonder if HW, PR mastermind that he is, hasn’t quite got his head around the internet yet. Absolutely NOTHING – even the tiniest slip – goes unnoticed now. It definitely feels like they’re not quite keeping up.
@aly & Floribunda -ITA.
*puts on her professor glasses* This is a typical mistake for a veteran businessmen these days. I have studied many cases where corporations try to correct situations with lies and it doesn’t work anymore in the time of the internet. There’s only one way left to sell product today and it’s honesty. *deeply sorry for the academic babble*
He made Jennifer Lawrence happen but as much as she’s loved online, she doesn’t have the same demo Ben has. How could they have miscalculated like that is beyond me.
I’ve said it before…I think the whole “cumberbitches heartbroken over their hearthrob’s engagement” is pure bs to sell him as a *potential* hearthrob for movie roles. I’ve been thinking along those lines ever since the Elle UK interview came out.
“I’d be devastating…” *writes his own smut*
Sure, Ben *pets him*
(no, I think he’s sexy. but…that interview. #awkward)
HW is also missing his main campaign person this year so he’s either got a newbie who has no idea how to handle it or HW is going it alone and it’s just all over the map.
the campaign isn’t off track if the goal was to appeal to the People mag crowd (and by extension the Academy). they are eating it up the way they eat up any engagement/marriage/babies story. where it’s back firing is with his fandom, and it makes sense because HW knows nothing about the intensity of his fans. i.e. we can recognize instantly when he is not being himself. my fear for ben is what happens after the oscars? he has lost so many ardent fans.
Floribunda…very well put!
Thanks guys *blushes*. I know, it’s all so weird, and I’m just as bewildered by the whole thing as everyone else. Not sure I’m going to be able to make it all the way to Feb…
Lainey was fueling the HW rumors yesterday…
How?
a story is up about the staged campaign. tried posting the link here got moderated
I think that Lainey was pretty much saying that the engagement wasn’t fake but them holding out until the movie premiere was happening was a HW machination. I 100 percent do not believe this man is engaged to win an Oscar. I do believe he is hesitant after he got torn apart for the Julian Assange movie he did and he didn’t get any noms for it at all. He’s gone now so we won’t see anymore of him probably until noms start to go out for GG and SAGs.
Well, Laney bought stuff that it’s pretty much laughable, so..
Shes also covered him more this week than she has all year.
Gee, I wonder why…*whistles*
Misread this as “tinkle” not twinkle. Which is actually more amusing.
Hahahaha! That would be disarming, & much more entertaining than anything he has said for the past two weeks.
I’m actually looking forward to Penguins more than TIG but I will still see it.
I was actually planning a Sherlock marathon viewing this weekend to get me through the hell of laundry I have to do and realized I can’t wait to see Martin Freeman’s face for a change…although I’m now hyped on the photos of him on my Tumblr dash in full beard. Even though it’s gone now, he’s looking very hot to me these days.
One to many “actually”s in that previous post. Oy
Ben should beware! oooooo! The ghost of AnnE’s Oscar campaigning hangs like a specter, darkening all! Ben went to Harrow. Did you know? That Ben went to Harrow? Like Winston Churchill? Because he did. Harrow. So he should be fully aware of this term: PYRRHIC VICTORY. When you win and you lose all at the very same time. Beware Ben!! Oooooo!!!
Also I am so bored and over this. I actually dislike him now. LilacFlowers, can I have a ginger biscuit and some lemon tea brought to my wing of the conspiracy train? I’m getting off and need some sustenance for the long march home.
I love how Lilac has become our hostess with the mostess.
She’d tell you it’s self-serving these days. Colin and Mark can’t keep up with all the requests in BC threads.
The train isn’t stopping until February. It says so on your ticket.
@moodgirl. I can check out any time I like, but I can never leave. #HotelCalifornia. It would seem so. For here I am, settling down to watch a documentary. And here she is. ‘Henry VIII, Mind of a tyrant part 3’. Guess who plays Anne Boleyn? Yep. Sophie the Huntress plays the woman who: seduced a King, gave birth to a Queen and brought an end to Catholicism in England. And now she’s head uterus, Cumberbish in charge. #girlbye.
But is it an avant garde Anne boleyn?
She can do crap docos till she kicks the bucket for all I care. Just keep her away from the canon and other quality works that demand a high standard of performance. If people start hiring her for stuff above her calibre because of whose d she’s allegedly getting that is what might make me never see another film or show of his evert again
The doc is a few years old 😉 But she’s not TERRIBLE in it. I do wonder why she hasn’t had more success as an actress, though. Maybe she just enjoys directing. Now, off to find media wholly unconnected to the Cumberbatchs. I can only pray that is still possible.
Vomit.
Hope the movie is good.
No longer care what is going on with his fiancé. It’s too weird.
All I know is I’m not getting engaged unless the guy wants to shout it off the rooftops while we are both disgustingly beaming at each other constantly. And unable to hide the joy.
OhDear – Yes, I do get his dilemma with his schooling. Harrow = posh in most people’s imagination, and people will inevitably bring it up in interviews. But I do think BC uses the Harrow thing to his advantage when it suits him.
Right now I’m feeling a lot more admiration for my old Etonian university friend who became a teacher in tough state schools. And he *never* mentions where he went to school!
That’s the thing with BC. I generally think he takes himself too seriously. Say one thing and act another. Perhaps public schools give you a leg up somehow and the ‘right’ sort of connection, if you may. But that’s the same with anyone who has a better start in life. It doesn’t mean anything if he/she doesn’t do anything about it. Ditch the schooling and talk about he worked hard. Wouldn’t that be a nice change?
I attended a very posh, elitist, etc school and I never mention it at work or when meeting people because
a) I will be judged based on stereotypes
b) It hardly matters once you go on to Uni and enter the workforce. Not everyone takes advantage of very expensive and “excellent” educations, and connections will only take you so far.
In the long run, what matters is what you got out of your education no matter where you went. After school, it all depends on your reputation in your field.
@Felice – Exactly.
@Cee
‘Not everyone takes advantage of very expensive and “excellent” educations, and connections will only take you so far.’
ITA, sometimes – more often than not – it works against you rather than for you. I have been saying all along he’s rather lucky that he gets away with saying a lot of potentially problematic things. It seems people don’t give him as much leeway any more.
@Felice
A word to the wise. If he talked about that instead, that would be rather inspirational. But he missed the point with the quote, as per usual.
Just something I know since I missed out on the big schools. It wasn’t because of weed and girls like B though :p
@Grace – Indeed. My school and university have played against me so many times. Even my actual boss confessed she almost turned me away but decided to give me a chance to prove her “wrong” and that’s how I got the job. I’m extremely grateful and conscious of my privileged education, but like everything else in life, it has its negative side.
Ben should stop going on about how he’s not posh. How many times has Pattinson mentioned he attended Harrow? The more he talks about it, the more he projects the “public boy, posh tw*t” image he seems desperately trying to shed/avoid.
Also, being one of the less-well-off kids at a posh school can leave you with a lifelong sense of less-than. Sense of wealth and success is almost always comparative. Maybe it’s part of what drives his ambition now.
So for the longest time he has said Sherlock is asexual or doesn’t have time for sex. I’m pretty sure in past interviews he has said that Sherlock and Irene were never together. Now he is talking about how amazing Sherlock would be at sex and yes he and Irene were shagging their brains out in the Middle East. And I’m the crazy one for not believing in True Love.
Such bullsh*t. Whenever he talks about Sherlock I automatically skip what he’s saying.
Yes. I read that, rolled my eyes and said “Whatever Ben”.
It’s weird, I usually cut him a lot of slack, but when he talks about Sherlock sometimes I honestly want to shake him and say, “Do you watch your own show?”
Yeah, priorities…I know. 🙂
Well, sex sells. And Sherlock, whether he likes it or not, “made” him–he had a career before it but the show really got his name and face out there in a big way. And now he’s backtracking on all previous statements and saying yeah Sherlock is a sex fiend or whatever, putting those two together and voila, more PR. Because people weren’t reading “oh, I don’t think Sherlock has time for sex and no, he never hooked up with Irene.” They want the fanfic version.
MissMary: pretty much. F*ck the actual canon of the show and ACD novels…
*sigh*
@MissMary @Aly
I used to have a huge crush on Jeremy Brett. The first season of Sherlock I kind of sat through and went like ‘okay’. I thought, you know, at least this is not too bad, it’s modern adaptation and all. The second season – the first episode really didn’t sit right with me because I felt that they misrepresented what went on between Irene and Sherlock. The reason she was the woman was because she outsmarted Sherlock in his own game. Not only she got away with it, she had the upper hand all along. But there you have it, they sex it up and change the dynamic entirely. I watched the Q n A and listened to the writer explaining how he didn’t quite get what about Irene Sherlock found fascinating when he was twelve because she left with her husband. I am not bashing the writer because it’s his adaptation, he can choose to interpret the original text however he likes, but the reasoning he gave didn’t justify the changes he made to me.
Overall I thought this Sherlock was overhyped. I am happy for them that it’s done well. But to hear Benedict talking about Irene and Sherlock again is just blah… Seriously, don’t bring that up now.
Oh by all means, bash Moffat. Everyone does. He can’t write women.
I have my own thoughts on sex and Sherlock but it’s mostly from an academia POV and it doesn’t mesh with fandom lol, at least not in the way I’ve seen, slash fic or no, lol. I truly loathe how Moffat writes women (he seems to think “strong female character” means “murders someone/has a lot of sex/has no other personality but to be reactive to a male character”).
I really think, at least in part, his sudden “wayheyhey” about Irene and Sherlock is part of his rebranding as a sex symbol/romantic lead thing. Or he was fucking drunk, lol.
@MissMary, interesting. I’d love to hear your thoughts. I personally don’t think Holmes (as opposed to the show) is asexual: it’s a lack of intent not a lack of desire. And I think he would find the human interaction that comes with sex not to his liking. I don’t think he’s a virgin either. The way he talks about women (which doesn’t sound purely theoretical) and his remarks on Watson’s gullibility suggest – to me – he’s someone has had some experience in the past but decided not to engage in it to avoid the ‘mess’, for the lack of a better word.
I do agree Moffat’s female characters fall into stereotypes in general and not even the good ones. He reminds me of the author of Water Margin, in which all female characters are either adulteress, murderess, or adulteress and murderess, or women on a violent path. And it’s really sad because the one thing I like about ACD’s work, along other things, is that he never felt the need to belittle women. But hey, he got the commission from BBC, I didn’t.
Now I am gonna save fanfic discussions for later before this turns into an essay. 🙂
MissMary, drunk seems to be problem for him, I hope he gets a handle on it because he seems to like being drunk an awful lot. “Thank you very good much…”
@OhHey I thought it was interesting that at least one outlet pointed out he didn’t drink during the HFA’s… He’s usually quite a social drinker, even at serious (and not serious) awards and industry do’s.
@Grace There’s some awesome works done on coded homosexuality in ACD’s original canon works and I tend to fall on the side of Holmes being homoromantic but celibate. And I definitely agree he’s no a virgin, in any iteration, lol! I think that, no matter his sexuality, he’s abstaining by choice. And omg Moffat DOES write like that! I think he has a very juvenile understanding of women when it comes to depictions in art and media and really gets reductive and regressive with their characterizations. Almost down to stereotypes.
I’m glad to see someone bring this up. I cannot think of one person involved in the show, at any time, who has suggested that Irene Adler & Sherlock ever got it on. Has Cumby just decided that they did, all on his own? Why spin it that way now?
It may be that history must now be tweaked & embellished to account for the “How Sherlock would Be In Bed: Devastating!” narrative that came out of the blue recently.
After all, what would Sir Arthur Conan Doyle know about Sherlock Holmes?!
You know what? I really just think he ran his mouth without thinking again during that particular interview. Some kind of male bravado thing to suit his ‘current’ image. If it’s planned, it would be in very pool taste. For years he’s been vocal about fans sexualising his role and Martin’s. But there he was, blabbing about it for the world to hear. I guess he didn’t realise his version of Sherlock was fanart to begin with.
I actually wondered this myself, in fact, this consumed way too much of my brain cells on my drive to work, time usually spent belting out show tunes while I apply my mascara in the rear view…ugh. Just stop please Ben.
Ugh, I hate what that show did to Conan Doyle’s characters. and ingeniously written plots. So why not this nonsensical element along with all the others? (In the short story, SH always referred to IA with reverence, but within hours she married someone more dashing as planned and got on with her life and so did he.) If they were going to tear to shreds some of the most solid writing of the last few centuries of popular fiction and glue the pieces back together with all the efficacy of a three-year-old, they could at least have had the guts to rename the characters à la House. As it is, they ride the coattails of greatness with a jumbled Cliffs Notes hack job.
Good casting, some good dialogue early on. Loathe the rest, ‘batch notwithstanding.
I’m curious to see whether the to-me mystifying infatuation with the show will dim a bit post-engagement/nuptials/triplets.
@Ally8, thank you! The name is my main issue with the show. Had them named it something else, I might find this detective fellow interesting and different. But to keep the name only says they want to ride along the train without showing proper respect to the original text. Though to be fair, in some ways they did, but there are lots of problematic changes.
For years I’ve been trying to understand the hype around it and never got it, until I was having new year day breakfast with a friend earlier this year. And there were some young people talking about it at the next table, with excitement. Then I sort of understood. Perhaps every generation needs a different interpretation, like they keep re-making all those superhero films. But I still find this Sherlock underwhelming: I fell asleep during the Hound of the Baskervilles, which was one of my favourite Holmes stories.
I’m just THRILLED that he finally (apparently) has a clue as to what asexual actually means.
The Imitation Game was No 1 at the Uk box office for the first two days this week. The production company just posted the news.
Cumberbatch and the cast have to do the pr now because he wont be available Jan/Feb next year when all the other contenders will be working like dogs. It’s a two week burst before the film’s released in the US and thats it.
No it was Not Interstellar is its second week was top with £3,777,840 in the weekend opening official figures. Sound’s like Weinstein is fudging the figures like
The Imitation game had £2,742,725
And to be honest both those figures do not come anywhere near the big oeners like Marvel films. Gone Girl opened with £9,800,00
http://www.bfi.org.uk/education-research/film-industry-statistics-research/weekend-box-office-figures
Are you comparing an indipendent movie with blockbusters? LOL
No I am just saying that he did not come first un the weekends figures and that although they were good they did not compare to films like Gone Girl which was not considered a block buster here nor was Interstellar. In fact both od those films got less publicity THAN tig which has been advertised a lot and got a lot of press articles /tv interviews etc. Considering it was a home grown film with a UK star it should have done reasonably well.
It did achieved the distributor’s second best-ever UK opening, narrowly behind Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy’s $4.4m (£2.81m) from 382 sites. If it does well this weekend it might challenge it the studios best ever.
I am saying that Weinstein told a porky or people have misunderstood the email.
It came second, after Interstellar, a movie that it’s highly publicized all over the world, from a very well known director.
The initial prediction was of 2.5£, it exceeded it…so I’d say it’s good. 🙂
I just watched Birdman on Sunday and wow. Keaton was great and Norton did steal scenes but it was hilarious and heartbreaking (there’s one particular scene with Emma Stone that struck a chord) and frankly, I would love it if Keaton won the oscar.
I have yet to see The Theory of Everything but from all of the trailers I’ve seen I think I’ll need to bring tissues. I watched my grandmother go through a lot of pain and sadness when her body was failing her.
I’m still looking forward to seeing The Imitation Game but I’m not as excited as I was at first. I’ve seen a few clips and some of it has made me wince a little at how forced some of it seems. Maybe forced isn’t the right word. Calculated? Like some his actions/reactions are so carefully orchestrated they don’t seem natural. However, I’ll reserve any judgement until I see it.
If any of you get the chance to see Birdman, do. It was so bloody good.
@WiT, I’m with you on all this. Birdman is so good. I just watched Whiplash and it is worth checking out. JK Simmons is terrifyingly fab.
Hmmm, I haven’t heard much about whiplash, I think I’ll look into that.
Ps. Did you see the article the DM just did on Wanda? They have some older photos of his dad and wow, I think we know what he’ll look like when he’s 70.
@Wait I’m Typing: Popular theory popping up re the DM article on Wanda: she’s refused/dodged giving a comment so they want to butter her up or at least look like they have an “in” with the family.
Micheak Keaten is my choice ,I think the film sounds interesting and unusual.
@missmary (my phone keeps trying to auto correct that to missionary, by the way)
Yeah, I was just reading that on the Sophie blog. Actually someone linked to an interview she did and she sounded very similar to Benedict. Saying things like she takes the glamour with a pinch of salt, is more focused on her work and putting out something good, that she doesn’t consider herself a “pretty actress” and visits the theatre often. The only thing that threw me off was this qoute when the journalist comments on her having a nice, comfortable upbringing “umm, I don’t know what one of those is. My parents are divorced”.
Maybe she’s a nice woman, just a bit snob?
Funny OT thing: my best friend called me earlier; she saw the pictures of the premiere online – they’re everywhere – she doesn’t buy them as a legit couple. Like, at all. And she is the most rational person I’ve ever met…\useless info is useless
She doesn’t consider herself to be a “pretty actress.” I concur.
@aly, Re: your friend, I was just browsing trough the SH Tumblr blog and there was a v. interesting link on body language on there. I read it and just now watched a link with him and Sophie doing the photo opp at the red carpet again and I just can’t get my head around this pairing. There’s a lack of chemistry and they were so tense around each other. He visibly relaxed when it was time to pose with Keira and the rest of the cast. And his smile, IDK, it’s not so convincing. I want to add it up to nerves, but I don’t know. It all looked very ‘Smile and think of England dear’.
I think SH probably comes across as stuck up in RL. I don’t know her in person and it’s very possible that she means well – just the words out of her mouth and the way it sounded. But to me the problem is really with him, not her. Whatever is going on between them, he chose to announce the engagement two days before the press tour, he chose to bring her out on red carpet as his other half. Show us he’s in love then people will stop doubting. At the end of the day, who cares someone they don’t know is getting married unless they smell something fishy? It doesn’t impact our lives in any real sense of the world. Not buying what he’s selling, especially since they got the story all twisted and backwards. It’s probably true they’ve only been seeing each other a few months and he feels she’s right for him. It’s probably true he wanted her at LFF but he didn’t want to make a story out of it. But the way all of this has come out is snort inducing. Benny boy, don’t make me think you’re dumper than I already think you are!
People try to paint BC as some kind of victim of HW Oscar campaigning annoys me. He’s not a damsel in distress. He has 2 other movies coming out in addition to TIG. Anyone want to talk about the Penguins of Madagascar Q&A he did? Fans sent in questions (inane questions to be sure, but still) BC got to pick which ones he’d answer.
One was: “How would you react if an animal spoke to you?” – “I’d tell it to be quiet” (snarky)
Another: “If you were a pizza what kind of toppings would you have?”
BC’s response: “Broken glass, barbed wire, and a little bit of grit” Bitter much?
His attitude just pisses me off. The Q&A was set up by DreamWorks to promote a CHILDRENS movie and this is the crap he comes up with. It’s rude to the fans who sat around all day waiting for him to answer (not me btw, I read it later) and more importantly (at least to BC) its being rude to a major studio. I’m sure they paid him good money to add his voice to the movie and the studio set this Q&A up. You gonna tell no one from the studio looked askance at these answers? Just because PoM isn’t going to get you an Oscar nod, doesn’t mean you get to piss all over that movie’s promotion. BC should treat all of his projects and their studios respectfully. If he keeps this attitude up he’ll get a rep for being a loose cannon and then where will he be?
Its his recent behavior people are discussing. more so then the engagement. Its like he just can’t give a damn anymore and is (either intentionally or subconsciously) trying to commit career suicide. Maybe he’s just burnt out and needs to have a bit of a lie down. Either way he needs to get a grip. I can see wanting to ditch the more rabid fan girls, but he’s gonna need the good will of the movie studios if he wants to keep acting.
Yeah…that’s so OOC for him. He’s known for his works ethics. This has to be the weirdest thing of the bunch of weirdness from the past week end.
prob because it was someone else answering
although yes to giving the artist-url asker a serious and good answer about animation
J: loved that answer as well.
http://instagram.com/p/vlymVQy4IV/?modal=true
This girl met him recently and while she wouldn’t go into details, she said “unfortunately not such a great meeting with Benedict cumberbatch and that’s all I’ll say about it”.
I feel bad, it’s always sucky when you meet someone you admire and they’re less than what they seemed. But I suppose it’s to be expected when people are put on a pedestal.
True…although he did stop and she isn’t going into details, so who knows. But it totally sucks, you’re right.
There are a few more hints in the comments section of that instagram page, and more interestingly, comments from others who had a similarly not-so-nice experience with BC.
Sounds like he is, in fact, a douche and is full on believing his own hype. So maybe he and his gal are peas in a pod of douchebaggery after all?
I’ll take the happy dancing bear over that crap any day.
It’s been mentioned that some of those commenters are actually autograph hounds so I wouldn’t take that as gospel.
Still, disappointing indeed.
MissMelissa: they were autohounds, which are the scum of Earth.
tbh no actor ever has 100% positive fan encounters because theyre humans, and fans sometimes expect a certain type of behavior and are disappointed when they dont get it. selfies and a bit of pleasant talk aren’t enough, they want ear to ear grins and fireworks
in his case youll find a lot more positive than negative which is what you want to see
and yeah there’s autohounds commenting they blow
Gonna play devil’s advocate here and maybe defend him – there is no reason in the world you should expect someone you don’t know to stop what he’s doing and sign autographs and take selfies with you,. The sense of entitlement of fans really ticks me off, if they catch him in a bad mood (like lately) or tired or sick or whatever, the guy is automatically an a-hole if he doesn’t comply. I’m going to say that’s not fair. I give them all props for putting up with this crap, I know that I could not deal with it, fans or not, not entitled to their private time. At an event, it’s a reasonable expectation, on the street, not so much.
It looks like it’s at a premiere though and he usually makes time. Also if he can’t, he usually apologizes.
But, we don’t know what happened.
oops, the OP is actually an autohound herself, guess the auto agency commenting should have been a clue lol. i knew the ‘sklirtzz’ guy was because he pushes ppl, i recognized him
those ppl are so obnoxious
Autohounds are parasites. Plain and simple.
On another note, EB has the funniest and most blatant attempt at pushing the BC/SH train I have ever seen. Some anon ‘claims’ their brother went to RADA with BC and BC told him all this cr&p about his patents, and how SH is the type of woman his parents want for him blah, blah, blah…
I mean dude, if you’re gonna make up lies, make them freaking believable! A quick check on BC’s wiki page tells you he went to LAMDA, not RADA.
Yeah, SH is exactly the kind of women his parents want for him. That’s why they’re so over the moon with joy and can’t stop telling everyone they meet. Non-stop interviews with the press. Oh wait…. LMAO
(Still don’t care about BC/SH)
On the other blog there’s a video from FO where they apparently interact and she smiles. Haven’t seen it yet, though.
How…convenient.
@aly, right?
Someone makes a point however, to say that BC doesn’t look at SH when they interact.
Still, convenient…
He seems to be more interested in his phone and whomever he’s texting for most of it. Or is tiny ice cream.
There’s the same story about BC’s buddy, lol. It seems to be a popular narrative for nannies to use about those two.
Re the video… It’s very…. interesting… how the less stiff and bored looking pics and such are coming out now. Not like it was a set up or something. Not at all.
Well…looks like someone’s keeping tabs. 🙂
nope, not at all!
So I watched it…they weren’t wax statues…they were two people watching a match of tennis. #notimpressed
I have not seen the video.. It says you need a password to watch it.. Boo!!
I think what really got me was when he thought fans had sent over a drink to his table (turned out to be his TIG co-stars) and he was annoyed. (I thought that was so rude.) He has no graciousness left in him at all.
^^This. I mean, fine, be annoyed but if you’re in front of a reporter, would you want to be a dick? Is that something he’s okay with people thinking about him (Well, apparently…)?
it wasn’t a eye rolling or rude outburst or whatever its been blown up to tbh. made me laugh, but he wasnt rude and didnt want to waste it. id feel like a dick if i took something a fan paid for i knew i was going to dump
Exactly! Be gracious, be polite. He’s been at this long enough, surely he knows the drill by now.
When did this happen? Why would anyone be annoyed at being given a drink? Just smile and set it aside.
It was during the NY Mag interview, so relatively recently.
i got the impression that he knew matthew and allen were playing a joke on him. i’m not gonna get too worked up over it.
The douche is strong with this one….
This must be strange for him. He almost never gets negative stories/publicity.
Speaking of douchery, I was thinking of Photoshopping the “This is What a Feminist Looks Like” pic of BC to “This is What a Douche Bag Looks Like.” But I don’t have the energy for such pointless bitchery.
I don’t think he was usually this bad. There’s been occasional missteps in the past but not this huge watershed of douchery.
I think it’s all gone to his head. He used to be more humble (or at least he did a better job at faking it. ACTOR). Still I know he used to say things like “I’m not sexy, I just play a sexy character” (aka Sherlock). I think he’s just got carried away with it, started believing his own press. Like that NY mag photoshoot? Yeesh. It was probably meant to be funny or tongue in cheek, but it’s really missing the mark.
He’s a “serious” actor now (yawn), he’s trying for an Oscar (not likely from what I’m hearing, nom yes, maybe, if he’s lucky). It’s like he figures he doesn’t have to bother with this penny-ante BS anymore. Like he’s thinking “Who needs fan girls? Why should I waste my time giving polite, respectful answers in Q&A? PoM won’t win me an Oscar, so screw that film. I’ll type any old shite and they’ll eat it up.” (see Penguins tumblr Q&A). “Look at all the crap I say about my fans and they still come back for more, what fools!” He doesn’t need us anymore. Oscar’s beckoning.
Maybe that’s a jaded view on things. Maybe the old Ben is still in there somewhere. I think he just needs to disappear for awhile, get out of the limelight. He’s way to over exposed. (And he still has the Hobbit coming out, god help us). He just needs to get back to acting and get his head on straight.
If that doesn’t work, his people should strap him into a chair and force feed him some remedial PR lessons in short, simple, easy-to-understand sentences, “Don’t mock the fans. You need them!” repeated as often as necessary until it sinks into that lizard brain of his.
Oh and for good measure: “For heaven’s sake, stop doing interviews (and GQ award shows) while drunk!” Seriously, every interview I’ve seen lately has described him as least mildly sloshed. You’re a lightweight Ben. Hold off on the booze until you get back to the hotel.
Oh jeez it seems like he uses alcohol to ease himself into situations.
He’s a “serious” actor now (yawn), he’s trying for an Oscar (not likely from what I’m hearing, nom yes, maybe, if he’s lucky)
To me he was a serious actor *before* too.
As for the Oscars…the nomination is likely, which is a good thing for his career. Winning is more about politics than raw talent (look at some of the winners’ actual talent)
Personally I decided to dismiss whatever he says right now. 🙂
Someone found Sophie’s ring… It’s a Tiffany Legacy ring ($15,300)
Tiffany ring? Sophie’s ring looked kind of cheap..
Benedict told Us Weekly Magazine that he is going to have a “private” wedding when he marries Sophie.
People Magazine, USA Today, and now Us Weekly?
He is so “private.” lol
Yep, and none other than Seynorita found it.
There was an article in the New York Times today about the after party that said Georgina thinks Benedict is the hottest thing in the world. On Stewart last night, when Jon joked about “will you marry me,” Ben laughs but then for a split second he looked absolutely terrified. The boy is in over his head. It’s all so creepy.
It’s like watching someone find out the big presentation they had due wasn’t on Friday like they planned but TODAY and damned if it wasn’t first thing in the morning… They can fake it, but they’re in a panic the whole time.
well that didn’t take long did it
Yes, Ben by all means have a private wedding. That way when the press doesn’t bother turning up (’cause no one cares) you can just tell your self that that’s what you were going for the whole time. Now be a good little boy and run along and play.
I’m starting to see why his parents sent him away to boarding school. All that endless inane chatter. “Yes, dear. That’s nice, dear, Wouldn’t you rather play outside?”
@Just me: Yes, so private he will be the only one there, apparently.
“I think I’ll be having a very private wedding,” the 38-year-old told Us Weekly on the red carpet.
Back away slowly……..
WE, WE’LL be having a private wedding. WE. US. The TWO of us. BOTH of us.
Christ on a penny farthing man, you sound like one of those nutbars on Bridezillas.
“it’s all about ME! MY day!”
“Okay Ben, if anyone asks, you’ll be having a private wedding!” “Sure, Mr Weinstein!” “*skip ahead* Damn it, you twit! YOU WILL BOTH BE THERE if Us Weekly asks!”
(Us Weekly is like People’s poor cousin by the bye…still a tab, still a shill)
Oh, Dear…
It’s we, Ben. I love things like these….
#runsophierun
Of course it will be very private, so private no one will be there. Not even him. And the conspiracy train leeps rumbling down the track.
it does not look like the original
WTF. They don’t have [old, historic, well known] jewelers in England, he had to buy a freaking ring at Tiffany’s? Screams fake to me. What a clusterf*ck of a show. Has anyone pinpointed when she slipped it on?
I want him to go away, to shut up, and sort himself out. For someone I thought was really lovely and had the deepest personal integrity, this is a huge disappointment.
I’m very sure he is really lovely. I wouldn’t judge anything on this Hollywood nonsense.
😰Sarcasm? I can’t tell any more.
HAHAAA
I joked on another thread that someone sent an ‘assistance’ to Tiffany’s to get a ring. OMFG. – this has gone from car crash, train crash to now air crash TV. It’s funnier than an American daytime soap.
I like Tiffany’s silver stuff, but, not exactly the Queen’s Jewellers for posh stuff is it? It just all screams ‘rush job’ if this isn’t PR, preggers or god knows what, why are they rushing it! seriously, not lived together yet, popping into each other’s apartments isn’t living together.
I wonder if HW puts in a tax receipt for the ring under ‘promotion’ expenses
Has anyone mentioned the video yet of them arriving at the red carpet? Someone body submitted it to EB.
And dear god the body language.. It’s very interesting because in the first minute of the video you see various other couples.. All looking lovely and just .. Couple-y.
And then those two come there.. And after that video nobody is able to convince me that she was nervous.. They look like the ice king and queen in comparison.
Since I just recently read a post on tumblr where someone defended her “demure” smile… Nope. In the beginning it doesn’t even qualify as a smile.
And it looked like Ben had to physically keep her in place at some point because she already wanted to run off.
Besides that.. I am still disappointed in the ring. So cliche.. I would have expected them to have some sort of vintage family piece.. But then he’s probably waiting with that and keeping that until the right person comes..
i’m just going through the possible scenarios on this: did HW set them up and coerced them into going public and getting more serious than they wanted? or did they not know what they were getting into at all? or did BC zero in on her because she was in HW’s circles and wouldn’t back down? (that last one is the most murky and i hope it’s not true, i don’t want to think he’s that manipulative) or did she zero in on him, either on her own or from HW?
i’m just trying to come up with a plausible answer for all the WTF
I read on another site that the HWC backed a play called Enron that was directed by SH. Perhaps these people are more interconnected than originally thought.
We were chatting about it at the end of the other BC thread from yesterday.
The chemistry is electrifying
Sooth here. Cripes, I go away for a day and now I can’t get my name to work.Whhhy?
http://www.pattiwood.net/article.asp?PageID=2314
pursing of lips
more animation
hidden/still hands
all we see in our otter king
Adding:
+ Circumstances Not Matching Demeanor
+ Nonverbal Behavior Does Not Match Spoken Words
+ Withdrawn Behavior
+ Pauses
*just saying*
long pauses yess @ingrid
I feel bad for the guy 🙁
Me too
My mind ticks away at all these things without my realizing it, and the first time I saw him confronted about his engagement I called BS – the entire thing was just screaming wrong poles apart. For an actor he didn’t do a very good job faking it.
Well, at least he’s clearly very uncomfortable with all of this. Especially considering he’s extraordinary actor and cannot sell this. At least that’s something. He hasn’t sold out completely.
But yes, I too feel sorry for him :/
yes!! by this time he should be able to fake it properly. I mean come on he is a professional faker. again did u see the “i’ll have private wedding comment”
he again lost it. Aftr 1 day of “we and us” he is back to “I” again
Good for him for campaigning, he clearly wants Oscar badly. Not sure about his strategy though. I will say that there is a huge risk of campaigning so hard early in the season when we still have months to go.
Eddie’s campaign will likely look more tasteful and less desperate in comparison. To say nothing of Keaton’s, who can easily play the redemption narrative and well as the working in the industry for so long Hollywood goodwill angle.
It should be an interesting award season. Like last year, there was too much good work and some people will not be nominated. I am still bitter for Michael B Jordan and Oscar Issac from last year- and I think Jake G will miss out this year. Too bad, because he is absolutely terrific in Nightcrawler- creepy, greedy, vicious, cunning.
I may be alone in this, but sorry girls (and some guys), but I don’t find anything attractive on him. Especially his face. He looks like a human lizard. Again, sorry! It’s annoying to see something written about him everyday, when in fact it’s just the same recycled article, with revised words or additional/deleted paragraphs. So much going on for this guy, but I don’t know why… I am rooting for Eddie Redmayne for best actor for the Oscars.