TMZ is reporting that Halle Berry dragged her ex, Gabriel Aubry, to court over the fact that he’s been straightening and lightening their six year-old daughter Nahla’s hair. Apparently Halle’s lawyer made the case that Gabriel was trying to make his daughter look white (TMZ’s words) by changing her natural hair. The judge sided with Halle and ordered Gabriel to stop changing Nahla’s hair. We heard earlier this month that Halle was attempting to lower her child support to Gabriel from $16,000 a month to a mere $3,800 a month. As far as I can find, the child support amount has not been changed. Here’s TMZ’s report:
Halle Berry just took Gabriel Aubry to court … claiming he’s trying to make their 6-year-old daughter white.
Halle was furious Gabriel was straightening Nahla’s naturally-curly hair, lightening it with highlights and she is convinced it’s because he does not want the girl to appear to be African American.
Halle didn’t show in court Monday morning, but her lawyer Steve Kolodny did, along with Gabriel and after a lot of arguing the judge ruled NEITHER Halle nor Gabriel could change Nahla’s look from its natural state.
So the judge is allowing Nahla’s hair to grow back naturally.
I actually know of a divorced couple who has argued over their daughter’s hair. The daughter is about the same age as Nahla and has long hair that gets tangled and needs brushing daily. The father, who is otherwise a loving, attentive dad, refuses to brush the girl’s hair when she’s with him (he has 50/50 custody) because “that’s your mom’s job.” The result is that the poor girl has ended up with a rat’s nest and significant hair trauma when she’s returned to her mom. That situation seems more like a misunderstanding due to lack of communication than an attempt to hurt the other side at the expense of the child. (Plus the dad genuinely might not know how to do hair.)
In Halle and Gabriel’s case, they just have different opinions on what to do with their daughter’s hair. I do side eye Halle for making it into a race issue. That could be the case, though, I have no idea. I think it’s more likely that Gabriel wanted to make his daughter’s hair easier to care for, if he did in fact change it at all.
Update: The Daily Mail obtained the legal documents in this case, which many of you have been referring to in the comments. I didn’t see their report prior to writing this or I would have included it. (It took me a while to find that, so please email me at info@celebitchy.com if I miss a big detail like that in the future.) In the court papers, Halle states that Gabriel denied dyeing their daughter’s hair and that she sent a sample to a lab for testing. It says:
She said she first noticed a difference in her daughter’s hair when Nahla returned from visiting her father in August 2013, saying : ‘Gabriel continues to maintain that he has done and is doing nothing to cause the extensive straightening, color changes, stripping and damaging of our daughter’s hair.
‘I have personally observed the changes in Nahla’s hair texture and color over the last year. I have never personally experienced hair damage nor have I ever known a single person whose hair has suffered such excessive changes from spending time in a salt water pool (or even chlorinated water) and sunlight.’
Halle put forward ‘before and after’ photos of Nahla to the court and said: ‘I have since reviewed the laboratory report concerning this very hair sample that I obtained, which confirms to me that Gabriel has not been truthful about what he has done and had been doing to our daughter’s hair.’
And she noted: ‘I continue to worry about the potential psychological and physical damage to Nahla that can be caused by the use of chemical hair treatments and the psychological message that it conveys to Nahla, and to implore the court to put a stop to Gabriel’s attempts to alter our daughter’s appearance and most probably cause her to wonder why her natural appearance is not good enough.’
After reading that, I wondered why Halle didn’t ask Nahla if her dad dyed or straightened her hair, which is what MK at DListed wrote too.
In that same case, Halle also alleges that Gabriel called her the N word, which she’s alleged in the past. It’s unclear if these accusations refer to a new incident.
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There is absolutely no reason to highlight a 6 year olds hair
Are you going to take Halle Berry’s word that he’s lightening or straightening it? Because I wouldn’t take her word for what time it was.
The judge took it
Naye, please see point 5 below.
Did the judge say that Gabriel had to stop straightening her hair, or did he say that they both just needed to not mess with her natural texture (which, in my mind is basically saying that if he did or didn’t straighten her hair, then he can’t, which, imo is an appeasement tactic)????
Naye, nope. The judge did not take Halle’s word. You might want to get all the details before commenting.
And Aubrey says her hair lightened from swimming, not him highlighting it
Nope… I think all of these people are awful. I am speaking genrerally and stand by my statement
Again it’s up to me to lay out the FACTS:
A snippet of her hair was sent to a lab and the lab report stated that there was dye in the hair and it was processed.
Now if you believe the lab got the science wrong then you need to petition the Court for a sample of her hair so you can do some personal testing. 🙂
Was it hair dye? Doesn’t chlorine in a pool have similar properties to the ingredients used in hair bleach?
My hair has similarities with Nahla’s, and it ABSOULTELY gets lighter and damaged from sun and swimming in pools. I used to have white (seriously white) highlights in my naturally brown hair from the sun. Halle’s comments about never knowing a person whose hair was damaged from sun and pool chemicals sounds completely absurd to me.
“A snippet of her hair was sent to a lab and the lab report stated that there was dye in the hair and it was processed.” Gypsy, where in any of these links is there a copy of the lab report?
We have Berry claiming she thinks the lab report proves Aubry is lying. We have Aubry saying the damage is from swimming. We have both parents ordered to leave the child’s hair alone, both parents (ie. Berry, stop sending hair samples to laboratories for testing). Where is the lab report itself? It may be out there, I haven’t seen it yet.
@ Sugar – I wouldn’t trust her word either.
I do believe that water+sun can cause hair to look as if it had “bleached strands”. And yes, that causes hair damage, too.
I don’t buy that Aubry straightened Nahla’s hair. Where are the pictures to prove that?
Where are the pictures?
@Gypsy
No, apparently it’s MY turn to lay put the facts. It was NOT a “snippet of hair”. It was hair Halle collected from a brush. If anyone else with chemically treated hair, say Halle, has ever used that brush, any results would be inconclusive. The judge did not favor Halle, the judge just said nobody touch this poor kid’s head.
🙂
Her hair in the pictures looks exactly how spending the summer in the pool affects your hair. And while it’s true that African hair doesn’t bleach out in the sun, Nahla’s hair clearly is that of someone who is biracial, otherwise she’d be sporting a full on Afro, no matter how long it gets and that right from the beginning. For reference to the Nahla’s hair when she was younger during the summer:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XazFxhrvkbA/T7mRhbZmZ4I/AAAAAAAAbk4/dhn7tKr4wRg/s1600/halle-berry-nahla-pavilions-pair-06.jpg
Not much difference in colour apart from the ends, and that’s easily explained by beach vs pool.
Also, her eyes are said to be the colour of her Dad’s. Is she going to accuse him of making the girl wear contacts so she looks more “white” next?
Was it proven that it was Nahla’s hair? I could see Halle putting her own dyed and straightened hair in there. I don’t believe her automatically; every photo has the kid looking as she always does and Halle has accused every former lover or husband of something. It’s a pattern. Halle’s husband beat Nahla’s dad to a pulp. That’s a lot more emotionally damaging. I’m no fan of either one, but it’s hard to picture someone being with Halle for years and then deciding he doesn’t want his partially African-American daughter to not be what she is. And Halle has accused every single man she’s been with of abusing her.
@denise
I’m calling it “African hair” in the context of having spent over a decade living in West Africa and also in the context of never having seen the “sun bleached” effect on any of the population, even the guards, street vendors etc who spend all day in the sun. I’m perfectly aware that the north Africans and east Africans have different hair texture due to a mixture of Arabic, Indian and African populations. But… the majority of the African-American population (or those decended from slaves) were West African. If that’s the case of Halle’s father (which it probably is), the hair texture of different parts of the continent are irrelevant to this situation.
Speaking of Nahla only. She is biracial with dark curly hair on 1 side and straight blonde hair on the other. Her hair could have features from both. Dark, but straight and can lighten in the sun. Mine does. Brown to blonde with a few weeks in daily sun.
i agree, megan. i don’t think anyone thinks a six year old should have highlighted hair. but where is the proof he did it? sorry, i’m not gonna take crazy lady’s word for it.
since all his expenses are provided to the court and then they haggle over them, it wouldnt be that hard to sort out if she had a trim or an actual process
I’m not a fan of Halle Berry but this time I’m totally on her side. My babysitter cut my son’s hair when he was about three and when I saw him it was like a hit to the gut. You do not fool around with a child’s hair without permission from the mother. You just don’t go there.
Sabrine, there’s a difference between a babysitter doing something and one of a child’s parents, with 50/50 care, doing it. If he wants his child’s hair cut he has as much right to do that as the mother.
No parent in my opinion has any right to dye or chemically treat a child’s hair, though. No clue if he did or not but agree with the judge who banned it as an option.
I wonder where are the pictures which prove the straightening and the bleaching?
And sounds like there is absolutely no proof that he was doing that.
The judge did the right thing by telling them to leave the kids’ hair alone. That doesn’t imply that anything was actually done to the hair. The ruling really works for both parties – he can keep on not straightening her hair and Halle can have reassurance.
That’s what I’m getting from this story too. The judge just told Gabriel not to do it in the future. We don’t really know if he has ever done it in the past. How do we know the sample Halle submitted to the lab was truly Nahla’s? I rarely take a hard stance on celebrities but I despise Halle. I just don’t think you can underestimate her lies. Because, really????? Dad’s going to chemically lighten and straighten a child’s hair? Come one. Also, kid’s hair texture changes as they get older and sometimes color changes too.
My daughter is biracial and her hair is dark brown with perfect ringlet curls. After two summers of spending 90% of the time in water, her hair turned blonde on the ends and lost some of its curl. So I believe that could be the reason. Nahla is old enough to say, “yes, dad is doing something to my hair”, or “no, he’s not”. Halle’s nuts.
I agree. I’m mixed and due to sun exposure my hair changes colour all through the year. Mix sun with chloride and sea water and I turn into a blonde like one of my parents.
The girl’s hair never looked permed to me. A perm has to grow out from the roots. It doesn’t just disappear. My guess is that Halle is still hell-bend on moving to France with her family and she’s trying to make it happen by playing dirty.
Agree. My biracial nephew’s hair dries out & lightens dramatically from both chlorine & salt water. I don’t believe the reported “lab results.” You cannot “dye” hair lighter – dye darkens, bleach lightens.
Nutsy Halle’s mother is caucasian; her father was African-American. If Halle’s father was 100% African, Halle’s kids with caucasian fathers can be 25% AA at most. Nahla’s hair is far more susceptible to sun-bleaching than if she were 100% African heritage.
Agreed. Also people don’t have to be biracial for their hair to lighten. Everyone’s hair will lighten in the sun – have people lost their minds? Especially if they’re in chlorinated pools and playing in the sun all the time. My niece has medium brown hair and it gets blonde at her edges and lightens over all in the summer and she’s not even “biracial.” Most black people have admixture and there are blacks who are technically more Caucasian than actual biracial people even though they don’t have a white parent.
Halle is exercising her choice to be crazy and abuse her ex by suing him over petty things. As long as she’s still having to pay his legal fees i’d like to say there’s no issue, but there is.
Nahla is used too often as a pawn for her mother to disrut her father’s life. She’s an instrument to Halle. This poor child is being raised with the fallout of their actions and childish, selfish behavior. She is horrible.
I agree there isn’t a reason to straighten or lighten a six year olds hair. I don’t know if it is a race issue or not but I could see why it would bother Halle.
Again, I don’t know all the facts. I think both of these people will just never get along and their poor daughter is stuck with them.
Halle is a crackpot. All she had to do was sort this out with her ex privately, but Nooooooooo she wants to constantly run to court. Can’t stand this woman anymore.
Halle is a woman who fled the scene of a hit and run, and when the girl SHE hit started talking, Halle said she lost her memory and had no idea she did it.
I don’t believe a word she says.
I hope O.Martinez is watching her antics because one day she will be doing the same thing to him.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself Evan. Great comment.
Evan: don’t forget CSI-ing a hair sample because
a) she can’t tell just by looking whether hair is dyed or straightened chemically or otherwise (big eyeroll and how dense can one be)
b) to make sure that she had proof co-signed by science professionals (because an analysis from any good hair dresser wouldn’t have told her for sure?
Well said Evan. People in LA are still pissed that she got away with that hit and run. As far as her daughters hair being bleached and straightened, how do we know it was actually Nahla’s hair that she sent to the lab? It could have been anyones. I know that spending 6 months or more out of every year swimming in our pool made my wavy light brown hair go blonde and straight, all through my child and teen years.
This is the same woman who did a HIT and RUN then basically lied about it. Said she went home to sleep and didn’t remember doing it.
The woman is such a Liar.
I guess she couldn’t get his payments lowered so she’s pissed.
I don’t believe anything that comes out of her mouth.
Because lying about an incident where she could get in legal trouble (i.e., she has cause to protect her own hide, however immoral it may be) is totally telling about her propensity to lie about something concerning her own daughter’s wellbeing. Right…makes a lot of sense, Evan.
Actually it does. It shows she has a history of lying when the stakes are high. Also, remember she is a proven liar (or at least has people lying on her behalf) in regards to Nahla. Remember the nanny?
Um, yes Sam, it does. Situations where there are high stakes test integrity more than any other. Are you really that dense?
Hally sent hair to a lab to be tested, but was it Nahla’s hair, I wouldn’t put it past her to send off fake hair for testing.
Unless he’s trying to straighten her hair chemically…can’t she have straight hair one day and curly the next? The lightening is too extreme for a little girl. She’ll have plenty of time to screw around with her hair when she gets older.
Meanwhile, it’s amazing that two people cannot sit down and rationally discuss the upbringing of their daughter without calling a lawyer.
*sigh
I think she’s angry about him “chemically” straightening the child’s hair, not just blow drying it, for instance. If he is chemically straightening Nahla’s hair, then I agree with Halle. As a black woman, I decided to stop relaxing my hair when I had my child because I was afraid of the message that it would send, i.e. you must change an integral part of yourself (the way the hair grows out of your head) in order to be accepted by others. I think it’s good that she is taking a stand on it (IF it’s true – and it’s a big IF).
And if the relationship is truly contentious, then, no, she’s not going to discuss it with him over tea.
but people who think you are trying to be white because you straighten your hair are stupid. are the white women who wear weave trying to be black? it’s ridiculous for people to say that because you change up your hair you are trying to be a different race. you should do what you want with your hair, it’s not a sign of trying to be another race. jmo. my hair’s straight, if I wear it curly, it doesn’t mean I’m trying to be another race. and you shouldn’t be judged like that either.
@Santia …
Thank you. As a black woman, I can’t for the life of me get how people posting here don’t seem to understand that a mother would notice a change in the texture and appearance of her child’s hair.
I don’t think people are questioning that a mother would notice a change in the texture of her child’s hair. They’re questioning the cause of the change if there is one. Berry says it is from chemical processes, Aubry says it is from swimming, the lab results state “damaged” but not that the damage comes from chemicals. The judge ordered both of them to leave the child’s hair alone. A few months from now, maybe the judge will order new hair samples be taken in court and tested to find out what happened.
@ Emma – It’s just blind hate for Halle Berry that drives these folks to deny, deny and if it turns out that the child was chemically hurt by dyeing her still soft skull these folks will find a way to blame Halle – just blind insane hate.
But why is the relationship so contentious and acrimonious? Why can’t they set their feelings for one another aside and act like adults for their daughter’s sake? The constant hatred and non-stop battles, inside and outside court, are going to hurt their child’s self-esteem and psychological well-being more than any hair treatments could.
So when Nahla wants to straighten her hair or lighten it is Halle going to get all bent out of shape? @Elizabeth, while it is extreme for a 6 year old, I know many people who have done it. Not good for the hair. But agree with you that it is sad that they can’t sit down and just talk about it.
Hopefully IF Nahla chooses to straighten her own hair it will be when she is much older than six and more importantly it will be a decision made from knowledge. I straightened my hair at 15 and in hindsight I wish my mother had interrogated my reasoning abit more. She would have discovered the internalised racism that was driving that decision.
Poor kid.
ditto.
It’s all I have to say about these people now. Poor Nahla.
Agree. Both of the parents seem batsh!t crazy.
In this case, I’d take the dad’s side though. It’s suspect that this claim from Halle comes at the same time she is trying to reduce her child support payments by about 75%.
Also I just can’t believe she hasn’t known a single person, or ever experienced, damage / color change to her hair from the sun, pool and/or salt water. I just came back from two weeks in Hawaii and my hair is trashed – even though I wore a hat 90% of the time and slathered on sun protective hair cream.
Halle is spinning out of control crazy.
This is so OTT and classic Halle. In the court docs, Halle states that she collected her daughter’s hair from her brush and SENT IT TO A LAB. WTF, lady? Now, the lab results don’t say “Oh, yes, clearly chemically straightened and dyed” but they do show damage. Apparently Gabriel Aubrey has denied lightening Nahla’s hair and said that’s from swimming – which I can buy.
Basically, because of Halle’s extensive history of trying to discredit this man, I give no credence to her side of things whatsoever. My daughter is Black and her hair does not lighten in sun/pool water, but my nieces’ who are biracial have hair very like Nahla & it does get very light in the summer. Who knows. But way to put your kid first, Halle.
THANK YOU, GiGi. I said on the downthread–her hair doesn’t look much different to me. Slightly straighter, because it’s longer. My brother has the same hair as Nahla (but his is an afro)–light brown with blond streaks, that come and go depending on the sun.
And YES, I completely agree with Halle. My mom doesn’t even follow celebrity gossip, and she knows that Halle has a history of trying to discredit every dude that leaves her life (whether they deserve it or not is another story).
My daughters hair gets lighter in the summer, she’s not mixed-race, she was just born with dark blonde hair so I think it’s more noticeable than had she been born with black hair. That being said if her father was doing something damaging like straightening her hair on a regular basis, I would be PISSED. Especially because I want so much for my daughter to be proud of her hair. i can see Halle’s point of view.
+1,000 , GiGi and Virgilia spot on. I’m also sure Halle is up to something else as well , she’s calculated.
i agree. i have severe problems believng anything Halle claims. its also not only this relationship, she has her own problems and on top of that picks horrible guys (that Gabriel guy seems to be the most decent but well thats not hard if you look at the ones before or after him).
Halle does try to discredit him quite often but this one isn’t unbelievable. So I’m siding with Halle on this one (from personal experience of knowing girls who have had their hair straightened and relaxed to appear mixed or white)
“The judge sided with Halle and ordered Gabriel to stop changing Nahla’s hair.” No, the judge ordered both Berry and Aubry to leave Nahla’s hair alone. That doesn’t mean the judge believed any of this, it may mean the judge saw through this latest attempt. Her hair can be retested in a couple of months to prove or disprove some of this.
Difficult to take Berry’s word on anything at this point. The lab results say the hair is “damaged” (whose isn’t?) but don’t prove the use of any chemical straighteners, right? The damage could come from chlorine and regular shampoo/conditioners to try to repair it. I had a friend who was a competitive swimmer. She had fine, light blond hair which ended up with a green tinge from all the time she spent in the pool. Nahla is mixed-race, 25% African American 75% Caucasian, so her hair may tend to be lighter and straighter than Berry’s naturally.
Exactly, Like you do when your kids are arguing- both stop the bickering and move on. That’s how I see this- Halle acting like a child about Nahla’s hair and the judge tired of it so he issues a blanket ” no one touch her hair” to shut Halle up.
Also, hair color and texture changes as a child grows (in some cases). My child was white blond from toddler to about age 6, and with a bit of wave; now at age 13, it’s light brown and looks completely different. In fact, my spouse was white blond til age 18, then it turned red/brown and finally brown [now grey(: ] Ppl thought it was peroxide as a teen.
And they [spouse and child] are both solidly caucasian [lol]. It’s possible that Nahla’s hair is changing as she gets older, too. Hormones change women’s hair color in pregnancy; it’s not like it’s unheard of for hair to change.
I don’t know what Aubrey’s deal is, but it’s interesting that we never hear or see about him unless Halle is taking him to court over something that is usually OTT. So people say they are both lame, but what has he done? I recall he had to turn down modeling jobs during the initial custody battle (when trying to get himself on the birth certificate-ahem)! b/c HB wouldn’t work with his schedule as far as custody, then she said his house wasn’t nice enough for Nahla [or safe or something], so he got his support upped, and now ppl say that’s his deadbeat ways?
I know it usually takes two to tango, but it’s interesting that there’s no gossip about him directly, just patent responses to her legal accusations against him.
I know he went out on a PR date with Kim K right after the split, but I think he was likely trying to use his potential celebrity to make money doing something in addition to mdeling-raising his profile, as it were. I think that p*ssed HB off big time-NOT b/c it was a kardashian, but b/c he was possibly using HB’s fame as a way to profit himself [ie, ppl only knew him as HB’s baby daddy]. HB seems like she def. didn’t want that, like she felt used.
Time will tell how this goes…but geesh, Halle, childhood goes by quickly, try to enjoy Nahla’s.
100% truth @lrm
halle needs to get another hobby besides taking gabriel to court. he must go through so much money trying to fight this crazy lady.
She ends up paying for it (at last the last few go-rounds anyway). He doesn’t work and lives off child support.
But he is a parent, not her employee. She would have loved to just “fire” him as a father and that he had stayed quiet about it and far from his daughter.
And why is Halle say that Gabriel is trying to make his daughter “white”. She IS 3/4 white….
Halle has said before she believes in the “one drop” theory, meaning if you have African ancestry, one would identify with that. Halle herself is 1/2 Caucasian and identifies herself as a black woman and probably views her children as the same.
What happens though if Nahla does not identify herself as a “black woman” like Halle does? What if she identifies herself as “bi-racial” or “caucasian” – wouldn’t the one drop theory go both ways? Is Halle going to force her to view herself the same way she does? I worry for this kid, should she ever have a different opinion from the mom or – God forbid – prefers her dad.
This. This. This. Halle is setting Nahla up for a huge identity crisis when she gets older. Nahla is three quarters white with more European features. Of course she should embrace her African American heritage, but she should equally if not more so embrace her European and French Canadian heritage. Why is Halle trying to raise her child as black when her child is not black! She is mixed/biracial/multicultural and should be raised as such since she looks purely biracial and not black.
Agree. It can be viewed as just as racist to deny her French Canadian heritage as to deny her African American heritage.
Halle should count her blessings that Nahla’s hair didn’t turn green from swimming in chlorinated pools… Yes, that can happen to blondes. And why would she think the dad would even think straightening the kid’s hair would make her look “white”? People of European ancestry covet curly hair if they don’t have it naturally. My 100% Irish mother mourned the loss of my toddler curls for years, and I still remember the day my mom gave herself a home perm and joyfully showed me her wet hair: “Look- curls!”. Nahla’s hair already looks like a lot of “white” kids’ hair, some of which is artificially curled because it’s so prized but some ethnic groups are prone to that kind of curl naturally.
I think the ruling is not aimed at the dad but rather at the mom, since obviously the test results didn’t prove Halle’s claims even if it was actually Nahla’s hair. The wording is meant to just be even-handed, letting crazy Halle think she’s won something. There is no evidence that Gabe did anything (once again). I don’t know why people keep assuming he’s the same as Halle. He has no history of the crap she keeps accusing him of, but some people forget there’s no proof and how different a tune she sang while they were still together and Gabe was the baby’s primary caregiver. He keeps a low profile and just tries to keep Halle’s crazy at bay. Imagine when Nahla gets old enough to have real conflicts with Halle herself. It will not be pretty. Halle of course will try to blame Gabe for Nahla becoming an independent person and drag him into court…
I think you mean *some* people of European ancestry covet curly hair. Mine is completely straight and I wouldn’t have it any other way, and dissed BIG time as a kid the 80’s perm fad.
The ruling is aimed at both. The judge is simply saying “I don’t care who did what”. You both stop”.
I just think that it’s human nature to want what you don’t have. Women with straight hair get perms. Women with curly hair get it straightened. They sell whitening creams to the Asians and Africans, while they sell self tanning products to Caucasians. Coloured contacts to everyone. Implants to some, breast reductions to others. Berry might self-identify as African-American, but she still had a nose job to slim it down and make it look more European.
One more observation…the “one drop rule” was a purely American classification and a very racist one at that. Nahla is also Canadian.
An emergency hair dressing restraining order? Lighten up, Halle! (just kidding. poor kid)
I’m not even sure if I believe this story–Gabriel straightening and highlighting Nahla’s hair. Her hair doesn’t look different to me.
I come from a black/white family–Nahla’s hair and skin color is the same as my little brother’s. He’s lighter than her, but his hair is the same brown/blond streaks. And the streaks come and go in the spring/summer fall. Her hair doesn’t look like it was straightened to me, but for fairness sake, he could’ve had a relaxer put in (I might be getting the name wrong, but it sort of tames the curls, doesn’t take them away–I did it to my hair a few years ago)….but other than that?
If Halle said the sky was blue, I’d check.
Relaxer is the worst thing to put in your hair. It is all chemicals and can ruin your hair, if done incorrectly and often, plus she is 6 years old. Her hair is already fairly straight, all he would have to do is wet it, comb it into a ponytail or something and carry on with the day.
I agree. And that baby has clearly NOT had her hair permed or even texturized. Those are permanent processes that have to grow out or be cut off. Her hair looks to be maybe a 2b/c curl pattern – and the texture looks very fine – I’m not sure how hair like that would even stand up to a chemical processing. My daughter’s hair is 4c – she’s 5 and I do sometimes blow it straight, especially before I do an intricate style on it. This is much ado about nothing. Now, if she came out looking like baby Prince Jackson, then we’d have a story.
TEXTURIZER! That’s what I meant….see I am completely ignorant about the proper terms, because I never had anything chemically done to my head until I was like 15. And then I shaved my head a few days later, lol.
But yeah–texturally, her hair is like my sister’s, which depending on what she does to it, it can look straight, or really curly (or frizzy)–especially when she was Nahla’s age.
The judge ordered that the child hair be grown out from whatever damage had been done. But OAN I knew some girls who were mixed race and had something like 3c or 4a hair? Thick with lots of perfect ringlets about 1/2 inch i size. They would get what they called a “relaxer” IDK if it was a kiddie perm but their hair always looked pretty much the same after, although they swore it was more manageable.
I have a cousin who is mixed race – black and white who is Nahla’s skin tone and has similar hair in colour and texture. It lightens during the summer to a blonder colour and when we put it in a bun it comes out straighter.
Her mother, who is white, tends to use a blow dryer on it to expedite the drying process after washing it because that’s what the mother does to her own hair and of course both their hair is straighter as a result of the blow drying.
We’ve had the blow drying damage conversation a million times, but never in a million years have I ever thought that she was using a blow dryer on her daughter’s hair to make her appear white.
Then again, i’m not Halle nor do I think our cousin-in-law is a racist.
EXACTLY!!!
@VC …
As young as you are, I have to ask … what exactly is your damage with Halle Berry? I’m just curious to know what fuels it?
Emma, we’re all allowed to give our opinions without justifying them or their origins to you.
Emma – JPLover: have you ever heard the expression,’ from the mouth of babes’? I suggest you look it up instead of ascribing ugly motives to people on account of their age.
Show me the receipts. Sorry , I know the boy did see the wolf that last time, but c’mon this is crazy Berry we’re talking about. I’m inclined not to believe anything she says, especially when it comes to Gabriel
Why is everyone being so harsh , this seems to be the way that rich people who can’t get along communicate, through lawyers and judges Things can get petty when hurt feelings are involved, let’s just hope that the child will be alright and stop judging like our lives depend on it.
Why are people being harsh – she is taking up a judges time on a petty argument when that time could be spent on some more serious case.
@Swack, who wrote: “Why are people being harsh – she is taking up a judges time on a petty argument when that time could be spent on some more serious case.”
A child’s self-identity is ‘not’ petty.
Emma
No but the invented delusions of a bitter woman are. I’m African and even I think this is a load of hog-wash.
That girl has a very loose curl pattern and from someone who’s tried many different items on my own hair you’d be surprised what could soften or change your curl pattern that’s right in your own fridge. Hint – yogurt.
Add in the sun lightening her hair and pool water likely loosening her curl and this just seems like a mad-woman howling at anything.
I’m siding with Halle on this one. You should not straightening or highlighting a six year olds hair. Wanting your child to look like you is not a good reason to subject them to that type of process.
if he did…
This is the same woman who did a HIT and RUN and went home to sleep and claimed she couldn’t remember doing it or much about it.
Halle is a Liar. IMO
I read her old interviews and some of the things she use to say are the complete opposite of what she does and says now.
I can’t stand her, don’t like, don’t believe one word she says concerning relationships anymore.
Maybe her daughter is asking for straight hair because sometimes she wants to look like mummy does when she has straight hair…
lol. yes, so obvious halle is trying to look white (rolls eyes)
Anyone else find it weird that Nahla’s opinion / testimony seems to be nowhere in this case? Why wouldn’t they just ask her: does dad do XYZ to your hair? She is 6 after all, not a non-verbal baby or a helpless toddler. I have a 5 year old and if she didn’t want her hair straightened / dyed / texturized / whatever she would make it very well known.
@md1979 They wouldn’t ask a child because she wouldn’t know. I’ve actually gone to salons, where they’ve put chemicals in MY hair without my knowledge and I didn’t know until later (when my hair wouldn’t revert to its natural stage upon shampooing). But a mother would know if her child’s hair had been tampered with, specially if the roots are a different texture from the rest of the hair.
Santia: so in order to defend Halle you resort to making incredulous statements like ‘hairdressers put chemicals in your hair without you noticing’!!!!! Come on!!! Are you a child not to notice?
Chemicals have a very particular and strong smell that no amount of fragrance can disguise. PLUS no decent hairdresser will put chemicals on your hair without your consent – there is the little matter of the chemicals burning or customer’s hair reacting badly to them. No Hairdresser will risk it and simply add them to your hair willy nilly.
There is also the fact that when they wash said chemicals from your hair, before blowdrying and or tonging, the texture of the wet hair will be very different from wet natural hair.
Plus the hair FEELS different and the comb/brush runs through it in such a way as to be alert to what’s been done to your hair.
Chemically straightened hair doesn’t wait for your next hair washing to reveal itself. Dry chemically altered hair is a different texture from dry natural hair.
The end result is far different and maintains differently from hair that’s only been blown out straight or tonged straight.
There is no hairdresser on this planet -yes, I said planet, who would be foolhardy as to put chemicals on their client’s head without informing their client they were going to do so.
@Santia – thanks for the laugh. I’m a mom of two… saying a 6 year old “wouldn’t know” if something was done to her hair is ridiculous IMO. A 6 year old is a fully functioning, cognisant human being. Like most people, they are aware of things going on around them. And I imagine a 6 year old growing up in LA would be fully aware of and understand concepts like hair dyeing, etc. Even if she didn’t understand what the words meant “did daddy dye your hair?” one could ask other questions such as “did daddy paint something in your hair?” “did daddy put something in your hair to change the color” etc. Plus the fact that she would have had to sit still long enough for whatever process was allegedly done to her.
Maybe the original comment was altered, but I don’t see anywhere in there where it was implied that Halle was trying to look white in that comment. Halle may have all manner of reasons for changing her hair that have nothing to do with looking more ‘white’, and it is possible that her daughter will want to emulate that.
And I’m of the opinion that Nahla’s hair is pool/sun altered. Where I live, most of the kids have darker skin and lighter hair. It’s a beach/pool culture and the hair of younger kids reflects that.
I have no reason to defend Halle Berry. She doesn’t pay my mortgage. I have gone to TWO Dominican hair salons for a blow out and they have INDEED put relaxer in my deep conditioning treatment. I only realized it when I washed my hair and it didn’t revert. I went back both times; one lady admitted it, the other did not. Is there a reason you think I would lie about MY experiences with MY hair because YOU don’t believe Halle Berry? Seriously?
Santia: pull the other one. Relaxer can’t be disguised in conditioner.
The smell alone would give it away AND the state of your hair immediately after its been rinsed off would give it away. No need to wait until days or weeks or whenever your next wash to know.
Clearly you know nothing about hair if you can’t tell the difference.
Natural hair and chemically altered hair look and feel completely different at all times.
LOL @Santia you suspect they put relaxer in your hair without telling you and you went BACK….?!
And MD1979, I am a mom to a 10 year old, whose hair I wash and deep condition because it’s long and tangles if left for him to wash by himself. I could put whatever I wanted in my son’s hair and he would never know.
Actually, relaxer can be disguised in conditioner. Look up Diane Bailey’s blog (she’s a natural hair expert who styles everyone from Iyanla Vanzant to the Essence cover ladies). She just wrote about that not too long ago, because it is an issue in lower end salons (usually Dominican ones), where they think they are doing you a favor by making your “unruly” hair more “manageable” and it’s easier for them to work on the hair so they can move on to the next person. They put a small amount of relaxer in the conditioner and run it through. It gets rinsed out fairly quickly, so you don’t get the sting or smell. Natural hair (at least mine does) stretches when wet, so that’s not a giveaway. Then my hair was blowdried straight (I was there for a blow-out). A few days later, I washed my hair and most of it would not revert.
Unless you have experience with all types of hair and with all types of relaxer and conditioner, I don’t know how you can make definitive statements about someone else’s experience. SMH
I find it shocking – truly – that you have a 10 year old that wouldn’t notice this. I’m not trying to be offensive… I honestly cannot believe it. He wouldn’t notice if you were madly mixing up a bowl of hair dye beside him? He wouldn’t notice that he has to sit and let it process for half an hour or whatever before you let him rinse? He wouldn’t notice the difference in his hair color? REALLY? I’m stunned at that.
I don’t know how relaxer works, but I do dye my hair regularly, and hair dye isn’t just something you can “slip in” to someone’s shampoo or conditioner. It’s a major process. The peroxide / developer that you use REEKS. MOST adults and MOST kids would 100% notice this. Especially if Gabriel was supposedly conspiring to lighten Nahla’s hair over the course of a year, he would have had to do it multiple times.
No reason to highlight, I agree. I think, however, before she can say he has racial motivation for straightening her hair Halle should go natural hair as well. I’m pretty sure Halle isn’t “team natural” she straightens her hair and she isn’t trying to be white (at least I don’t think so.) My daughter (12yrs.) has curly, ethnically different hair from me and while we don’t iron it straight or anything we do take non chemical measures to help it relax into a wavy state to make it easier for her to take care of.
It irks me when people say that straighter hair is easier to take care of. Natural or kinky-curly hair (which Nahla’s hair is not – it’s curly but not kinky-curly) can be easy to take care of with proper care and conditioning. I’ve worn my hair natural since 1999 and my hair is definitely more on the kinky end of the spectrum and I take care of it just fine. With Nahla’s texture and length, it wouldn’t be difficult to condition her and pull it up in pigtails or a pony tail. It’s not that big a deal. And when you decide to procreate with someone who does not look like you, you run the chance that the child may inherit traits of the other person.
THIS! So much BS on this thread about how “difficult” natural hair is and how if he did it then theres cause. Excuse me no. The only reason why people act as if natural hair is complicated is because they are so ignorant of how to care for it. Deep Condition, deep condition, deep condition. There is never ever any good reason to subject a 6 year old, someone incapable of informed consent, to those horrifying chemicals.
My cousin’s daughter is biracial. My cousin is white and has had her daughter’s hair chemically straightened in a salon. She doesn’t do it to make it easier and she actually enjoys braiding it. She says she does it because her hair is so thick otherwise, that it’s hard to pull it back in a ponytail for school. I’ve watched Good Hair so I gave her a hard time about it. She doesn’t do it to make her child look “white” – she thinks she’s beautiful as she is. She often braids or has her hair natural, but likes her in a ponytail or bun for school. Since I don’t do her hair, I can hardly argue with her mom about what is or isn’t easier.
I agree completely. I’m half black and half white. My curls are a mix of pointer and thumb in diameter. It’s more manageable than anyone in my family’s. From pin straight to straight kink. I think it’s bc I keep it well conditioned and funny heat style ever. My hair is combed.and styled in five minutes flat.
@ Santiago
Unless you’ve got the child’s hair in your hands I think you’re b ring facetious. Everyone’s hair is different and simply repeating conditioner doesn’t actually help. I’ve seen plenty of forlorn women walk into salons dejected because they’re doing everything right and it’s still not working.
What kind of conditioner? Can your hair take silicones? How often do you need protein?
Straight hair can absolutely be easier for some people and natural hair easier for others with no statement to how much they love themselves. I’ve been on both sides of the spectrum but can say straight hair was easier when I had less time to care for my hair. Just comb and go.
I think you were actually responding to Brandii, but having very tightly curled hair, I can tell you that conditioner and deep conditioning absolutely works. There are conditioners especially designed for tightly curled hair (which again, Nahla’s is not) at almost every drug store now. I use Shea Moisture, but even Pantene has one. I use actual shampoo very rarely; rather, I “co-wash” (wash with conditioner) and my hair detangles very easily that way. I then split my hair into 4 and braid/twist the sections. Voila. Done. The next day, I pull back into a bun, or twist it back up or leave out in a ‘fro, but it doesn’t take me very long and it’s painless.
I agree conditioner does help, but I was mostly disagreeing with the idea that as soon as you put conditioner on it the hair will magically become effortless.
There’s a lot that goes into caring for curly hair, conditioners that worked on my straight hair didn’t work on my curly hair. I absolutely have cut down my protein use to 3x a year because my hair can no longer take it and I avoid must conditioners will silicones because maintaining moisture during the week is absolutely necessary.
Just saying that the process of even finding a good conditioner can be torture as very curly hair will knot almost immediately under the wrong conditions. Thanks for your reply though.
My hair lightens so much just after a shampoo that in my younger years, some people assumed I was bleaching it if they saw me soon after. I was blonde until 2 or 3, then it darkened to a kind of light brown. I was told that I had “blonde highlights” sometimes, but Mother Nature put them in.
This woman is incredible.
This has to be the most public, vicious and children damaging divorce I have ever seen.
Nahla needs to be spoken to verify who is right and who is wrong.
Given Halle’s history of ruining her exes and using the race card whenever it suited her – I am leaning towards believing Gabriel more.
All I have to say, Maya, is that Halle is lucky that Gabriel isn’t trashing her to the press. I don’t think I’ve even read one story where Gabriel talked badly about her. Or any ‘friends close to Gabriel’ stating that that husband of hers is a…….. He has a lot of restraint, especially since she keeps dragging him to court. She just needs to quit it.
He has shown a lot more restraint than I think I ever could. I don’t know how anybody can believe her at this point, she will continue to throw stuff at a wall and hope something sticks.
good point. i mean her new guy even beat him up in front of their daughter.
Lowering his child support didn’t work, so on to the next attack.
And to the ppl siding with Halle, just because you can relate doesn’t make Halle’s accusations true. Please take anything she says with a pound of salt. She has proven time after time, that she will do anything to have her way.
+1000000
I think she has a looong list of outrageous things she can attack Gabriel for… she is trying them one by one, trying to chase him away from their daughter, so Olivier can replace him.
She had a bad experience with her own father, she cannot see her daughter has a good relationship with hers?
She is one sick female puppy. (just my opinion).
Agree . I honestly do not think Gabriel would actually know how to chemically straighten hair … I don’t see how he would be choosing relaxers, getting out the chemicals and applying them etc etc but I do buy that Halle’s lawyers phrased their petition in a way that said straightening was not an option and he has to follow that. I have cousins who are mixed race and their hair is exactly that colour. Perhaps it is Halle who has no idea what mixed race hair is capable of .
C.thruit (great name!), Berry is mixed race. Her father is African American her mother is Caucasian.
I agree with C.Thruit. I can’t imagine Gabriel knowing how to straighten Black hair himself, although I suppose he could take Nahla to a salon.
Yea but the child’s hair looks like it would straighten just from brushing or blow drying, or from growing longer. Kind of a ‘no win’ phrasing for him.
@Maya, who wrote: “Given Halle’s history of ruining her exes and using the race card whenever it suited her – I am leaning towards believing Gabriel more.”
What? Which one of Halle’s ex’s did she ‘ruin’?
David Justice
Eric Benet
Gabriel Aubry
It will be the worst one you’ve ever seen, until she breaks up with Olivier…
oh hellz yeah. all that has come before will be nothing compared to when her and olivier start.
If it’s true, I agree with Halle. Putting chemicals to highlight or straighten on a six year old’s hair is disgusting, regardless of the reason behind it. What is wrong with people?
“If it’s true”
Right. That is the question.
Seems you need to have a conversation with the lab who tested the hair, you need to show them the error of their science.
Gypsy, I confess I didn’t read the article that carefully. If the hair was tested at a lab, then I apologize for implying that Halle might be manipulating the truth again. In any event, my point was that I don’t think a child’s hair should be chemically processed.
Gypsy, where are the lab results? It says that she sent samples and what she never personally experienced in terms of hair damage in the sun or in chlorinated pool water. I saw no lab results which indicated any specific chemicals, at least in that article. The judge said that neither parent could change the daughter’s hair, not that either had.
I agree. Furthermore I find this commentary disturbing Celebitchy:
“I think it’s more likely that Gabriel wanted to make his daughter’s hair easier to care for.”
They have a mixed race child. Why is having straight hair the default for having manageable hair?? Because it’s easier for white people??
There are plenty of blogs out there about hair care for black and mixed race children. Naturally curly and/or kinky hair is only “harder” to take care of if you refuse to learn how to care for it since it’s different from yours.
While I agree with your comment, having curly hair like that is a LOT of work. Especially when you default to an afro, than just a few curls. I know with my own hair, my mom had me get dreadlocks because I didn’t want to comb it every day. And to comb it every day, and style it the way it should’ve, would’ve been at least an hour in the morning, and an hour at night.
As for kids, sometimes they won’t sit still for their hair to be done. My little brother has hair like Nahla’s–it’s an afro now, but when he was little, he had curls that women with little girls the same age would be jealous of. He was adorable. But eventually my mom had to cut all his hair off, because every time he saw her with a comb in her hand, he’s start screaming. And when I was little, I wanted my hair straight because it took forever to do (my mom braided our hair in cornrows), and it always hurt whenever I had to get it combed.
As for your last paragraph, IKR! I live in a town where a lot of black college students make babies with white women. Who don’t know how to take care of their hair. AT ALL. My older sister used to do hair while she was here, and she had one client that was a little black/white girl, and her mother was a hairdresser and she couldn’t figure out how to do her hair. SMH.
So true! Curly hair can be manageable. Obviously, if you let it knot all week and then decide to comb it through on Sunday, it will be hard. But it is not “unmanageable” or “unruly.” That’s us buying into the narrative.
I don’t think that was a racial dig. I know white people with curly hair who say it’s much more difficult to take care of than straight hair. I think it’s more a curly vs straight debate.
im white and my natural hair is much curlier than nahla’s
i am not good at taking care of it. at all. i really suck at it. some people that help me with it have no trouble. but i could split an atom more easily.
whether or not hair is manageable has as much or more to do with the person trying to manage it than the hair itself.
I’m also white with fairly curly hair. My mother’s hair is super straight and so she really didn’t know anything about special care for curly hair (and yes, it does require different care than straight hair). I blew my hair out straight until my early 20s because I didn’t know how to make the curls “work”. It took me several years of experimenting to figure out what the best method of care was for my hair and scalp. Now that I have it down, it’s not any harder than caring for my “straight” hair was (and my scalp is a LOT happier), but it did take that initial time investment to figure it out.
Honestly, it does not look to me like Nahla’s hair has been treated–if it was being straightened or relaxed I’d imagine the results would be much more uniform? Her hair looks like some of it is curlier, some is straighter, not an even amount of curl or straightness all over. And yes, it all looks a little ratty and fried in a way that I could totally believe comes from the pool. I have some cousins who are 3/4 white 1/4 black and they have similar hair: curly but very fine, and a LOT of red highlights that can go blonde in the summer.
@Greyson, who wrote: “They have a mixed race child. Why is having straight hair the default for having manageable hair?? Because it’s easier for white people??”
THIS! So this.
I have naturally curly hair that my mom kept natural because going to the salon would have broken the bank for her. Looking back, if I had the choice, I would have told my mom to let me experiment and straighten my hair once in a while. That doesn’t mean I have an identity crisis or hate my heritage. I have straight hair now because it is easier to manage when you aren’t willing to put in the time and effort to do your hair each morning. With straight hair I just get it washed, blow dried, or flat ironed and I’m good until the following weekend.
Also, Aubry is a white man. Most men let alone white men know what to do with a girl with unruly curls. Doesn’t mean he hates his child and wants to make her white. Seriously? I’m laughing at these absurd accusations. If Halle didn’t like it she should have had an adult conversation about it with him. They have the money to give Nahla her own personal hairdresser if needed. She’s looking for any way to make Aubry look like a racist and a horrible father.
Is it too much to say that she didn’t pull this out of the air….. maybe he has said something that made her think that this would be his intentions, and know that she noticed somethings she took it to the judge, which to me, is better than her husband beating his face in again ( because some folks can’t use their words). That being said I don’t see why any child should get their hair high lightened or chemically straightened with out the consent of the one person paying for it lol. Also if this woman was making her daughter tan so that she could look more black, people would loose the s*@#$.
but why is straightening her hair mean he’s trying to make her look more white? women do that all the time. and why do you necessarily buy her side? she’s dragged that boy into court more times than we can count, and now after nothing was done about reducing her child support, she drags him back again for supposedly straightening nahla’s hair to look more white. something she knows will hit hot buttons with people. sounds like a vengeful move to me. she needs to make peace with him, he’s obviously not going out of his daughter’s life, no matter how hard she tries. i bet she offered him money to give up his parental rights. it’s obvious she is unwilling to co-parent. because if she was, she wouldn’t be dragging her daughter’s father into court every five minutes.
What good reason is there to mess with a 6 year old’s natural texture? You shouldn’t try to straighten the hair of child that young IMO.
The default view of straight = manageable is problematic and YES influenced by race.
I have not read the above comments, but when I visited the USA I saw some very fancy women that used to do their daugher’s hair everyday. They were white.
The girls went to school with perfect curls and nice styled fringes. I honestly do not see much difference. with what supposedly happened to Nahla’s hair.
I always see that girl with a very natural eay look.
Nahla does not have too curly hair anyway, and when it grows, many times it straightens itself, and chlorine bleaches it.
duh, no kid should have to go through that. i mean plenty of non -white people straighten their hair, it doesn’t neccesarily mean they’re trying to be white. i don’t believe he tried to straighten or highlight her hair, i think halle is making that up and using the trying to be white reason. like celebitchy said, she’s trying to use the race card to make him look bad. only a moron would do that shit to a kid’s hair. she’s just taking him back to court again and stirring up shit again. i did not mean to imply that’s it’s ok to straighten or highlight a six year olds’ hair. but you see how smart Halle Is? she knows this will get everyone all stirred up. she’s a smart crazy bitch.
Ennie +1
Mindset matters, as well as learning how to work with the texture of your child’s hair.
@Snowflake, who wrote: “but why is straightening her hair mean he’s trying to make her look more white? women do that all the time.”
Yes, ‘women’ do that all the time, but Nahla is a 6-year-old child who has had that ‘choice’ taken away from her by her white father, who may or may not be doing so to influence Nahla’s sense of identity.
here emma, let me fix that for you:
yes, “women” do that all the time, but nahla is a 6 year old child who MAY OR MAY NOT have had that ‘choice’ taken away from her by her white father, who may or may not be doing so to influence nahla’s sense of identity.
and when consenting halle straightens her hair, one can assume it has nothing to do with identity…but is a fashion choice, solely? (referring to halle straightening halle’s hair, not nahla’s…though if she decided to straighten the child’s hair this would all be a non issue, of course.)
My husband and I discussed this yesterday. I’m black. He’s white. We have a daughter with curly hair (it’s not long yet, but she’s a baby). Firstly, Nahla is 3/4 white and “only” a quarter black. She’s probably always going to look more white than black. Secondly, there’s no need for Halle to make this about race. And finally, Nahla is too young, in my opinion, for chemical processing to be done to her hair. So, I’m ok with it being straightened with a flat iron or pressing comb. I’m not ok with it being bleached.
And when my (white) stepdaughter was this age, Husband and his Ex fought over her hair, too. What about hair brings out the crazy in co-parents?
You don’t know if Gabriel is straightening her hair to make her look more white though. It happens A LOT, its honestly so common within the black community so why would it be surprising if Gabriel did it too?
Unfortunately, even in the black community we’ve bought into the white is right mentality. I know I’m going to get attacked for it, but having studied the issue for many years and having to lecture on diversity, I know for a fact that we carry a lot of latent/subconscious bias against ourselves and our looks. It is no coincidence that the most successful black artists are the ones that look closest to white and/or assimilate to appear white. In a perfect world, black women would not straighten their hair. That would not be the standard of beauty (or “ease”). Our “norm” is natural hair. That is what grows out of our heads. And it should be normative for us; that should be the rule, not the exception. The fact that we feel we have to relax our children’s hair practically out of the womb is ridiculous.
Nahla may be only a quarter white, but the color and hair of mixed raced kids depends on what genes they get. I’ve seen biracial kids that look completely white and Nahla is 1/4 black yet is much darker.
Heh. My father flipped out when my mother let me get a perm at 12 years old (this was the 80s). Even then I knew it wasn’t really my hair, but just another excuse to fight and call the lawyers.
Exactly. Halle is looking for any excuse to sully Aubry’s reputation in the press and lower those child support payments. Her actions are so low though. This is Nahla’s father. She needs to chill out and find a better way to co-parent and deal with the issues of raising a biracial child.
I feel sorry for that little girl.
It is just so sad
Poor kid
I applaud the judge! What the heck is her parents’ problem?! They are acting more like children than that poor child.
It looks to me like bleaching caused by pool chlorine. Chemically straightened hair has a different, flatter texture.
The Chris Rock documentary ‘Good Hair’ has a segment in which a 3-year-old has her hair straightened with terrible chemicals; the camera then shows how the chemicals can cut through an aluminum coke can.
Halle will say anything to discredit her ex, and she’s ruined her own career in the process. Funny how TMZ will print anything she says.
yeah, i stopped watching them after one night when they were telling gabriel to get a job. how the heck do they know if he has a job or not? and they didn’t go to him for comment. that just showed to me that tmz is on halle’s payroll. feel so bad for gabriel, must be so hard fighting someone with so much money they can drag you into court every five minutes.
At the end of TMZ article it even says something like: Strike one for HAlle, or something.
Nothing surprises me anymore from her… taking hair to a lab?
And her daughter is mostly white anyway. What’s wrong with looking it? She chose a very white father for her and another white one for her second child.
Next she’s going to compain that Nahla is waving the Canadian flag or something just as silly.
So, I see some highlights in Halle’s hair. Is she trying to “look white” too?
FTR, I don’t agree with chemically treating a child’s hair. But I also have a hard time with anything Halle says. Also, not everything is a race issue.
I’s funny how these two are starting up again — I guess she figured she had to wait a bit after the Thanksgiving debacle and public backlash.
How sad that this had to go to court to be sorted out, I hope that this lovely little girl has been kept out of her parents bullshizzle as much as possible.
These two are so crazy. I hope Nahla does not know about all the ugliness between her parents.
Yea, and the funny [not really] thing is, when Nahla is older, if she reads about this on the internet, she will see a pattern of her mother initiating, and very little info about her father-the guy doesn’t even really release statements, does he? That does not look good for HB in anyone’s eyes-if you look at the pattern up until now. I imagine a child will see this, as well.
I think the only one crazy is HALLE.
Crazy, hateful and pissed that Gabriel won’t just go away and she couldn’t get his payments lowered.
She’ll be doing the same thing to her current husband in a few years.
Going to the judge because of that reason is simply idiotic in my opinion. Sure, it’s wrong to colour/highligh children hair but what if Nahla asked for it? And what’s wrong with straightening them once in a while? He’s a model with long hair so I think he that’s one of the things he can do. Not every man has Chris Pratt’s braiding ability!
Look at Gwen Stefani, she coloured her kids hair (maybe just the oldest one) since they were really young, among many other celebrities.
And Halle is really getting on my nerve, always bringing up race and trying to play the big misunderstood victim!
Ridiculous fight. The kid is biracial. She has naturally curly hair. My cousin’s hair is the same as Nahla’s and my cousin spends hours taming that stuff from a regular wash. Sometimes it’s straight. Sometimes it’s curly.
Halle needs to stop with the frivolous charges against the Gabriel before the judge orders her in for a psych exam.
Your cousin should look up natural hair blogs for children. There’s a popular one started by a white couple who adopted an African American daughter. They love do her hair and the blog is full of hair care tips and styles. It shouldn’t have to be hours of frustration.
It’s hours of frustration because her hair is thick and curly and when she wants to straighten it, it’s a process. Nothing to do with natural hair because as a black woman, my cousin knows how to do her hair and her biracial daughter’s.
I didn’t realize that wanting to go straight or giving your child straight hair meant being a racist. Natural hair can be beautiful, but so can straight hair. Can we stop shaming people for the choices that they make? So what if Nahla, who is 3/4 white, tried out a straight hairdo. Has anyone asked what the child wanted? Maybe she wanted to imitate the same hair of a classmate or someone she saw in a magazine. Her hair can always go back to being curly. I just can’t believe that people who choose to only go natural think that is the only way all people of black ancestry should do their hair now.
Not buying this latest attempt by Halle. Always trying to spin a horrible tale about her ex, with no thought of her daughter’s long-term emotional wellbeing. Nahla’s hair is probably streaked and damaged from sun and chlorine. Curly hair tends to be more porous, and even more susceptible to this. And the curliness? It will depend on how the hair is treated after washing. My daughter’s hair is curly – not tight, but more ringletty. If it is brushed after the drying process starts, the curls are mostly pulled out, resulting in a kind of frizzy no-style head of hair.
The fact the judge told BOTH parents to leave Nahla’s hair alone is telling. He is saying what judges say – neither parent is to do whatever the accused activity is – whether it is badmouthing the other parent, or not supporting the child’s activities – even if only one parent, or even neither parent, is actually guilty.
I wonder how the comments will go if Halle’s proof actually holds up in court. Will the people who think Gabriel can do no wrong change their tune, or will they just claim she doctored evidence?
Probably the latter, sadly.. It’s clear Halle has issues. Every man she has been with has had abusive tendencies, addiction issues or prone to violence. David Justice. Wesley Snipes. Eric “sex addiction” Benet, and Oliver Martinez. Her picker for relationships is awful. Why should Gabriel be exempt?
After all, it IS possible to hold racist views despite having dated/slept with a person of another race. Don’t believe me? Google Strom Thurmond and read about his love for segregation whilst having a secret biracial daughter..
yes, she definitely has a history, no wonder people don’t believe her. but i see what you mean, gabriel is definitely trying to hide from his biracial daughter. he must be furious about the picture they snapped of the two of them together
@Snowflake …
What’s the history? I keep asking that question … will you please answer it?
Excuse me, but you can’t possibly compare Strom Thurmond’s case and this situation. Strom Thurmond shagged his family’s (underage) black maid, then paid her and their daughter to keep quiet. He was a horny college student at the time looking to stick it into anything he could – not the crazy segregationist statesman. How is that at all like having a public, marriage-ish relationship with a black adult woman?
You can’t cry wolf so many times and expect people to be sympathetic, in Halle’s case rather than important singular issues it seems like she brings Aubrey to court for any and every accusation – most of which never become anything more than what she claims.
As for Halle’s taste in guys and what that says about Aubrey – I know of a woman with sht taste in men. If they’re currently married or living with another woman, abusive, cruel or callous she’ll pursue them hard and date them for long stretches of time. She finally did meet a really good guy who tried to have a mature relationship with him…and she chased him off.
Just like a good woman can have an one-time relationship with a bad guy, so can a bad woman snag a good guy even once. I just don’t believe Halle. I don’t believe the man has issues with race that prevent him from loving or caring to his daughter and I doubt very much her claims or ‘laboratory findings’.
Additionally… as a biracial (Native American/Caucasian) person myself, Halle’s arguement is *in itself* very hurtful. Believe me, mixed race kids hear enough of “You’re just trying to be more (insert race here)” they certainly don’t need to hear that from their parents, as well. In college, I dyed my hair blonde and my NA boyfriend accused me of “wanting to look more White”. That wasn’t the case and I told him, “Well, I *am* half White and so are you.”
yes, my husband is a mix of four races. he never felt accepted because each race he is a mix of did not fully accept him because he was a mix of something else. He is exotic lookiing and gets looks. it’s sad because people look at us because I’m white and he’s black in their eyes. but he’s really a mix of everything, not only black. but in their eyes, b/c he’s got a touch of black, they look down on him b/c they’re racist pricks. when will people realize the world is a melting pot? and accept others who don’t look just like them.
Exactly. I really dislike that mixed people of white ancestry are pressured into identifying with the race of their minority non-white parents. Can we stop with the one-drop rule? We are no longer living in the 1800s. The US Census now lists biracial as a race choice. Just because Halle or Obama or other mixed race people identify as black doesn’t mean everyone who is half black should do the same. If Nahla wants to identify as mixed race, then Halle needs to stop making Nahla feel bad for not choosing to be “all black” or wanting straight hair. Halle is so racially confused. She is biracial herself but she identifies as black and wants her children to identify as black, yet she has had two babies with white men. Huh?
First of all Halle: nose job.
That said, I can take her point, but it’s entirely possible he’s been indulging Nahla’s wish to look like the princess in frozen or something
@Db …
So she asks her father to induce her fantasy, but not her mother?
if what halle says is true. i think a lot of people doubt halle’s word. yes, if it is true, i can understand her point of view. but it looks suspicious after she just took him to court to try and lower her child support.
no matter what race you are, you should be able to do your hair any way you want without being accused of trying to be another race. sometimes a hair change is just a hair change.
And that would be true if we didn’t have the history we have in this country of black women not being considered attractive, unless they are light and have white features. There’s a definitive bias towards the white standard of beauty that cannot be denied.
…..but doesn’t Halle have her own hair straightened? Which means that she is also sending the straight is more beautiful message to her daughter.
Halle is an adult. There is no logical reason for a 6 yr to have her hair chemically treated and/or straightened. Furthermore, they are supposed to be co-parenting…BOTH parents should clear any changes like that with one another. People are doubting Halle’s story, but she had it sent to a lab and something tells me that a lab can distinguish between hair being lightened from chlorine exposure vs chemically dyed hair.
she sent something to a lab. i dont know what it was or where she got it. i dont have to believe it if it doesnt add up. just like her hit and run story.
If only it were that simplistic for women of color …we are expected to conform to European standards of beauty.
Halle has a white mother. Her daughter has a white father. If this bothers Ms. Berry thems the breaks. I seriously doubt Aubrey is doing what she is accusing him of. As a native Clevelander, she pulled so many hijinks on David Justice, he later said she was all kinds of crazy. They should have had the discussion of her racial identity before she was conceived. Not fair that Halle has control over her and will bias her decision. Idiots shouldn’t marry or reproduce.
Um, David Justice is a BAD example to use! He used to beat her.
Halle has issues and in turn, every man she’s involved with ALSO have issues.
Well yes she claims he abused her. But she also claims that after they split she tried to commit suicide. I question both, but if true, there is never an excuse for domestic violence. Eric Bonet cheated on her. The current husband beat the tar out of Gabriel. Her choices in partners obviously leaves something to be desired. I guess it just goes to show you that coming in a pretty package doesn’t equate happiness. She is now and always has been a dramatic and troubled woman.
In my opinion this is not about hair or race and more about Halle Berry using her daughter and the court to get back at Gabriel Aubry for not allowing her to move to France with their child.
Yup and her not being able to lower his support payments.
My biracial cousin has Nahla’s coloring exactly. When she was little her hair would get almost platinum streaks in the summer from chlorine in their pool and the swimming in the ocean. And longer hair can equal straighter hair because it’s heavier and it just pulls the curl straight. Or depending on how you dry it – my hair is a giant curly bush if I let it air dry, but straight if I blow it out, even without products. I think it’s Halle who needs to get educated.
Yes many of us know the psychological damage to Black girls over their natural curly hair. This girl is mainly White, it’s ridiculous to say he’s trying to make her White. Above all else no one believes Halle without proof because she has a long history of making up stuff to discredit her daughter’s father to gain sole custody. The psychological damage to Nahla is being caused by Halle in trying to separate a child from her loving father. Halle should be happy that her daughter’s father loves his daughter and wants to stay in her life especially since Halle didn’t have a Dad in her upbringing.
Put.the.child.first.
What a couple of idiots.
My hair changes drastically if exposed to chlorinated water or sun and it doesn’t need to be too often. When I was a child, it was even worse. Whenever we moved to the beach house during Summer, I would spend all day playing at the beach and my hair would chance from brown to blondish. I am not saying he didn’t do anything, I am saying it is possible he didn’t. In another note, if Halle is so concerned how her daughter identifies herself, she should be the number one example and not straighten her hair.
These two need to GET. IT. TOGETHER! Was is little Nahla gonna make of this once she starts completely understanding what her parents are doing to each other.
There are really, REALLY big issues here about racial identity, etc. Really serious topics that deserve a lot of discussion.
As a white woman, and as someone removed from the situation, I don’t feel equipped to evaluate whether Halle truly believes this about Gabriel’s motivation (and it’s totally a real issue regardless) or whether she is using this racially-charged topic just as another weapon in a contentious custody hearing. But I gotta say, bottom line, I’d be seriously ticked off at an ex who did something major to our child (whether hair straightening, a drastic cut, ear piercing, etc) without discussing it with me first. Heck, I know I would, because my husband shaved my daughter’s head one time and I was LIVID. And we’re still together.
Yes I think she must be one of the hardest people in the world to co-parent with. Nahla is 3/4 white. If Halle wanted a black child she really should not have chosen the whitest boy from Canada to make a baby with. I have a hard time believing he would do something drastic to her hair. Seems like a waste of his money.
I do think there is something really off with Halle and hopefully she is in ongoing therapy for her past issues which seem to boil up in her current life.
Love every point you’ve made here! She’s nuts and picked a tool to make a CHILD with! SMH.
She is a prick of the highest order – If anyone has a toxic psychologically damaging view of racial heritage and identity its HER with that one drop crap – way to go Halle denying youre childs 75% white heritage.
As a European im appalled whenever I read people on American sites giving this a pass – the one drop was ALWAYS a toxic way of looking at things
The history of the “one drop” thing, if I remember correctly, was incredibly racist and part of institutionalized racism and discrimination. In fact, I think it was established as part of anti-miscegenation laws, to outlaw mixed-race marriage. I never liked it, nor do I care for blood quantums for inclusion in indigenous nations. We are human beings, for crying out loud, not show ponies and pedigreed dogs. That said, I have heard people of color say they themselves choose to go by that standard because the world will see them only as one race regardless. For me, I don’t like it, but I don’t have a big say in how the world is. (I think race is pretty much an artificial construct in a lot of ways)
+100
Completely agree with this thread…
@Amy Tennant
That’s what my mom taught me–that I was part white, part black, part native american, looked white with an afro, BUT the majority of the world (especially where we live) will see me as black. So I do identify being black more than biracial, more in part because the community I live in categorizes me as that. I’m ‘that black woman’s daughter’, ‘the only black girl at school’,etc. It’s complicated.
@VC I can understand that. We might wish it were otherwise, but that’s the world we’ve got right now.
Because Halle’s hair is totally natural, no straightening at all. Yeah, right. That hypocritical woman badgers Gabriel at every opportunity. She’s evil and 16 shades of crazy.
Halle definately gets her hair relaxed.
She’s talking about a six-year-old child. If he chemically straightened her hair, as a mother of a small child, I would be p*ssed off also.
So funny, considering all the things she has done to make herself appear more white over the years.
There is blind item that Halle used egg donor for both Naha and her son with Martinez, she is not even this child natural mother.
Ug! this crap again.
I imagine that Nahla’s hair is damaged, probably from Gabriel simply having no clue how to properly manage it. My husband can’t even manage our daughter’s pin-straight hair. yes, I know he is a model and probably knows a lot more about hair then most men, but still.
Halle needs to quit now and learn how to work with her ex and put the girl’s needs first. Otherwise this is all going to bite her in the ass when Nahla is an adult and wants nothing to do with her. I speak from experience.
Above all of it, Nahla never seems to be unhappy with her father. She always looks relaxed and content. He can’t be all bad if she’s happy with him; maybe Halle should let their relationship be and make sure she isn’t affecting her own with the child. Sheesh.
My niece has hair like Nahla’s; sometimes her hair would be professionally blown out (no chemicals) to straighten it but it wasn’t remotely race based. She liked it that way. She also likes it long and curly. We all just learned to gently care for it in whatever way she wished. But yeah, it snagged a lot. But you learn and deal with it.
Halle has issues.
She is so OTT. I just cannot with her constant harping on all things Gabriel. She just makes herself look more crazy every time she pulls stunts like this. I don’t believe her for one minute. That hair sample could have come from anyone. What a lunatic.
+1
God help Halle if there ever is a legitimate reason to rush Gabriel to court over something serious concerning Nahla. She’s cried wolf so many times no one will take her seriously.
I have to admit that Halle has a very consistent behavior. Every time around thanksgiving, she goes to court and/ or have major arguments with the FATHER of her child.
I wonder if this is the start of something bigger. Maybe she is going for full custody again and has decided to go full on with the race card, we’ll see in the coming months.
Poor Nahla.
I’m wondering if it’s the start of an ongoing thing. If Nahla’s hair isn’t actually being touched by Gabriel and she keeps swimming and being in the sun it’s going to continue to lighten and show damage, maybe she’s planning on using this as a tool against him to say he’s defied the court order?
Her hair doesn’t look chemically treated to me. It looks exactly like what Gabe’s team suggested: that it is the result of time in the sun.
Honestly, I don’t understand how people can read this statement from Halle and not laugh that the absurdity:
” I have never personally experienced hair damage nor have I ever known a single person whose hair has suffered such excessive changes from spending time in a salt water pool (or even chlorinated water) and sunlight.”
She’s never known ONE person whose hair has been damaged by excessive sun and swim??? REALLY?
I should introduce her to my younger self who lived outdoors at the pool (swim team) every summer…my blonde hair was green and fried every year by July. And, that was with me wearing a swimming cap the majority of the time.
But it is a race issue. White people don’t get the whole black hair issue. Chris rock made a movie about it. Watch it!
But Nahla doesn’t have ‘black hair’.
If he is, in fact, getting her hair chemically treated, then I absolutely agree with Halle that he needs to cut that shit out. Not just because she’s SIX, but because it is attached to a long, ugly history of enforcing Caucasian beauty standards on black or biracial women.
On the other hand, these two give me so many flashbacks to my parents histrionic, petty antics during the divorce that the second hand embarrassment I get from reading about it is impossible to describe.
OK Halle. You first. Show us your natural hair!
really, nahla’s hair would straighten with a blowout. there would be no need to process it.
I find this comment thread very insightful juxtaposed against the happening in Ferguson as a peek into the Pysche of How many Americans think
Basically when you hate something or someone you will distort yourself into pretzels to discredit that thing/person or just ignore certain facts
Im not a fan of Halle but apparently
1) The person who is in the experience lacks the ability to know what they are talking about : so Halle as a mother is incapable of telling her child hair had been processed but posters can by merely looking at random pictures (which may not be of the child with processed hair )
2) Our opinion about your experiences is more valid :White people are now experts in black /biracial care and putting chemicals in a child hair is not a problem regardless of what the mother thinks
3) We don’t like the evidence so we ignore/discredit it : Hair was sent to a Lab so we are not depending on Halle’s word only but lets gloss over that shall we
Yep Halle is doing way too much but seriously the hate that clouds all objectivity here is well ….so telling
I find it disrespectful to the very serious matter in Ferguson to compare it to Halle’s situation with her ex. This is one event in a long series of situations with Halle and the father of her child. I didn’t start off doubting her…I got to that point over the course of several years based on her actions in court.
The lab tests didn’t say there was evidence of hair dye. Halle’s team said there was evidence of hair dye.
I am not an American and I am not comparing Ferguson with Halle , I am saying these comments AT this time really give me an insight in to how Some Americans think about “others ” or people they don’t care for
For the Record Im not A Halle fan and think taking something as simple as child grooming to court is Over the top and Toxic!
That being said Some of the comments Are mind boggling and just plain red herrings that have very little to do with the ESSENCE of the matter which is any mother would be upset if ANYONE (even the Dad made major changes) especially applying chemicals to my Childs hair pierced their ears etc. without their input .
But NO…Shes Lying .. Well the lab only said this it never said that .. Well the judge never said this he only said that . Well I Can tell 100% from pics that nothing was done with child hair , well my half cousin step sister is part
chiahuahua so Im an expert, Well Halle relaxes her hair ( never mind shes an adult ) Gabe is perfect and didn’t mean any harm (maybe he felt threatened by curls ? ) It must have been what Nahla wanted ( Cuz kids must always get their own way ) Blah Blah
We get it you don’t like her and therefore no room for any objectivity or putting yourself in her shoes
But Yeh this tells me nothing about how some people think …….As you were
@andypandy: The judge said that neither parent could change the daughter’s hair, NOT that either had. There’s no quote from the lab report saying definitively that Nahla’s hair was chemically altered. So yes it would appear Halle is lying. Also if she is making statements like I have NEVER had hair damage and I don’t know ANYONE who has hair damage then – again – she is lying.
Do you REALLY think that people are bending themselves into pretzels in order to not believe her? Or could it possibly be that there isn’t enough fact behind her accusations to believe what she is saying? I think if you look at this story alone in a vacuum, maybe you’d have a point. But as I said before, this is one event in a long line of events with Halle’s family. You even admit taking an ex to court over this is “over the top” and “toxic”, yet you are criticizing other commenters for making similar observations.
Essentially, you are accusing people of being bigoted. You might not put into those specific words, but that is what you are doing. If people are racist, absolutely call them out on it. But I think it is a misuse of a VERY weighted and important issue to try and tie it to this celebrity drama. I don’t think there is enough to support the accusation that people who don’t believe Halle here are doing so because they are racist.
I have lots of thoughts on Ferguson. I’d love to talk about them, but apparently mod era tors don’t allow those kinds of big conversation comments.
I have to agree with Tiffany on this as someone heartbroken over Ferguson.
I think it hurts us more when we refuse to analyze the various details of a situation and instead want to lump every issue between people in a situation.
Tbh, I think this lack of understanding is also what is hurting Ferguson. It is the difference between the peaceful protestors and those now attempting to burn the area to the ground.
Halle can have legitimate issues with her child, her child’s hair, and her child’s racial identity but past evidence doesn’t sway in her favor. It shows a vindictive and illogical woman.
Actually I was thinking the same thing as andypandy about Ferguson. Not that the situations are really at all similar or on the same level of severity, obviously, but Ferguson has shone an unpleasant light on how far we have to go still to change hearts and minds in this country, even in 2014. There’s a long way to go for understanding, and a lot of it has to do with the pervasiveness of white privilege and the difficulty we have of understanding each other’s perspectives. I’m a Scots-Irish Southern girl who is about as white as can be. As much as I would like to believe otherwise, I’m the beneficiary of privilege. The problem is that white privilege is always in the “background radiation” of our lives. I have a very hard time getting my white students to understand the very concept, because part of the luxury of privilege is that we don’t ever have to think about it. But my students who are not white know exactly what it is because it is part of their everyday lives. That’s why I hesitate to dismiss what Halle says out-of-hand. I may think she’s a wingnut who’s just trying to discredit her child’s father. But I also know there are bigger cultural and historical issues that are potentially at play here that I may never fully be able to understand, and I have to give her the benefit of the doubt because my own privilege may be getting in the way of my perception.
And regardless, if my husband did something significant to change my minor child’s appearance, I would certainly want to be included in that conversation beforehand.
@Amy
Thank You !!
Amy Tennant –
http://www.buzzfeed.com/nathanwpyle/this-teacher-taught-his-class-a-powerful-lesson-about-privil
I really liked this when I read about it, I’d say to expand on the other teacher’s lesson by also targeting the myth of “If you work hard enough privelage will disappear” or “Just because you as an individual has had a rough life does not mean you still don’t have privelages a minority individual doesn’t.”
I sincerely agree that there is a lot to think about in our country in regards to privilege and equality and justice. There is so much room for improvement and understanding. I wish I could impress upon you how much that issue means to me.
At the same time, I think it is a step to far to suggest that people who disagree with Berry are doing so because they are discrediting her experiences because of her race. From my perspective, that isn’t an accusation to take lightly or make casually.
@Tiffany
On this thread and others I’ve said that I don’t care much for Halle and her drama
Also I do not prescribe to the theory that just because you don’t like a black person you are automatically racist .
I note Posters like GNAT etal have had the decency to acknowledge the issues re chemical processing of A CHILDS hair even though based on Halles Past they feel the story may or may not be true
This is a completely different thing from people who are insisting that shes lying , trying to defend the indefensible /discount empirical evidence that doesn’t suit their narrative / insert their own false equivalences and expertise by association in issue they don’t know much about
Honestly its really quite familiar
@Amy– I did read that article and liked it. In fact I bookmarked it. I was particularly struck by the part where he said that his privilege allows him to be seen as an individual not as a collective. There was also an article recently in the HuffPo about how to talk about white privilege with a white person who is poor.
It is very difficult to explain to a fish who has lived all its life in water what “water” is.
@Amy Tennant
Absolutely. The idea of the individual vs. the collective is why after multiple white school shooters none of them are seen as a problem for the white race. They are merely individuals who have made horrific choices for various reasons.
However minority groups are always seen as a collective in the media. Even in the coverage of Ferguson looters are lumped in with peaceful protesters because the majority can not distinguish between one minority group doing one thing vs. another. Commenters say things like, “Why don’t you ALL?” “Why don’t THEY?” “If you want to be respected by US then stop looting.”
Even the language suggests that the people peacefully challenging the status qua and treatment of minority individuals are equal to those looting and causing unnecessary disruptions.
I love this conversation and am sure your students will learn with more guidance from you, I wish there was a way to privately contact you with more suggestions as this topic is something younger generations MUST learn about and consider how to change the world to be more equal to us all.
Can’t wait til she and Olivier split up, she transfers all this hate onto him and the cycle starts again with a different obsessive male subject to blame.
Unfortunately, women like this make us all look like we are barely able to control the crazy.
Yes, when Halle and Olivier break up, the split will be nuclear with good and bad consequences. The good: Halle will be so busy with her war against Olivier that she’ll leave Aubry alone and stop dragging him to court every couple of months (she’ll be dragging Olivier to court, instead). The bad: Halle and Olivier have a son together, and the poor kid will be caught in the middle of his parents’ battles, just as Nahla is now.
I wouldn’t want to be her hobby. Nahla’s hair looks lighter and longer, but it could very well be from swimming and I’m sure, being at the beach. That woman needs serious psychological help and I’d guess with her show not taking off, she needs to save a few pennies, hence the news leak about this….
I think this story is not accurately summarized by celebitchy.
1. In the first few paragraphs they say: “the judge sided with Halle and ordered Gabriel to stop changing Nahla’s hair.” BUT, in the actual quote from the original article, it says “after a lot of arguing the judge ruled NEITHER Halle nor Gabriel could change Nahla’s look from its natural state.” So it doesn’t seem accurate to say the judge sided with Halle.
2. Commenters are saying the lab found proof that Gabriel chemically altered Nahla’s hair. Actually, that’s not the case. All it says in the quote is: “Halle put forward ‘before and after’ photos of Nahla to the court and said: ‘I have since reviewed the laboratory report concerning this very hair sample that I obtained, which confirms to me that Gabriel has not been truthful about what he has done and had been doing to our daughter’s hair.’”
There’s no quote from the report. There’s no quote of the judge accepting the report’s conclusion (if there was one) that Gabriel was chemically altering Nahla’s hair.
PS – all of this on the heels of Halle attempting to lower her child support to Gabriel from $16,000 a month to $3,800 a month. Coincidence or conspiracy?
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Yup, she couldn’t get those payments lowered.
How do we know that the hair submitted to the lab is even Nahla’s? In order for lab test results to be admissible in court, a strict chain of custody must be followed. It is not as if a lab tech went to Halle’s house and took a hair sample directly from the child. Halle allegedly grabbed some strands from a brush and claimed it was Nahla’s. If Halle was really concerned about the hair straightening, she could have insisted on Nahla being evaluated by a neutral third party instead of conducting a secret test whose results can not be verified.
Agreed. If your real concern is psychological damage to the child bc she’s being made to “look white” or whatever it is that Halle is actually claiming, you would have followed the court-accepted procedure EXACTLY to ensure the veracity of what you were saying. If it’s just about blowing smoke and making life difficult for your ex… then you do it the way Halle did.
Agreed.
This is an old argument that she has used before. I think when she doesn’t get her way about something this is Halle throwing a temper tantrum and doing more harm again then good. Love Halle as an actress but she sure seems tiresome as a person.
I don’t think he dyed her hair, as it can get blond from chlorine, but when you look at the photos on Daily Mail it is uniformly blond all over. So who knows? It’s too hard to tell just from photos. He did call Halle a N…. before, and the previous judge really came down on him for that saying it affected the very core and being of Nahla to call Halle that. So deep down he may have issues, or it could be Halle making a big deal over nothing. Who knows with these two.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
I’ve been following this case from the beginning and there is no point that Aubry was found, by a judge, to have used racist language to Halle.
She put out an insidious whisper media campaign that he was racist and that he’d once called her the N word.
It never went to court. However, if you have links to judge telling him off for such unproven language, please post. I’d be curious to see them.
Whatever happened to “Hey, next time, let’s make any of these sort of decisions together as co-parents okay?”. Wait, never mind, that’s too easy.
As a black woman who practices family law, I think Halle’s latest stunt has nothing really do with Nahla’s hair but control. Like many mothers, Halle wants to control or micromanage what the Father does during his custodial periods. Reasonable people can disagree as to whether it is appropriate to straighten, dye or highlight a child’s hair. I can understand why a judge would rule that neither parent can alter the child’s natural hair if the parents disagree. I still think it is crazy that the judge has to give the parents a list of preapproved hairstyles. Hair is versatile and both parents should be allowed to experiment with different looks and styles.
I definitely feel race has a lot to do with the hair issue but not in the way TMZ thinks. Halle has gone on record that she considers herself and Nahla both black. Aubry has said nothing publicly about his daughter’s racial identity. According to Halle, Aubry considers Nahla white. I wonder if by identifying Nahla as black, Halle feels she has some advantage over Aubry- a trait she shares with Nahla that Aubry does not. If I were Aubry’s counsel, I could even argue that by not acknowledging Nahla as 3/4 white, she is trying to marginalize Aubry. There are all these negative articles about how Aubry want to make Nahla “more white” when Halle is trying to make her “more black”.
I think the real reason why Halle does not want Nahla’s hair straight is because it will make her look more like her father who happens to be white. Halle hates Aubry and perhaps she feels that if father and daughter look more like, Nahla will grow to favor and be more aligned with him in the future. I do not equate straight hair with not being black, The daughter is more white than she is black anyway.
Very interesting comment… I imagine you see a lot of craziness in your practice.
As a taxpayer, personally I’m kind of p!ssed that these two wasted the court’s time and resources on this. You’re right – it’s crazy a judge has to give them a ruling on what’s acceptable to do with their daughter’s hair!
I’m confused as to why you thought sharing your race was relevant to your opinion….it’s doesn’t make it wrong or right you know.
No, but it gives us an idea of her particular perspective. I appreciate getting different viewpoints
God damn. This is where sleeping with a gorgeous woman will get you, in court fighting over petty shit.
Why do people have to make a race issue out of this? Seriously! What if it’s the daughter who has lived a lavish life had asked her dad to dye her hair and he loves her so much, he can’t refuse. This happens all the time with children. I’m sure there’s gotta be some major misunderstanding. I don’t believe Halle because she’s married to maniac husband whom she fights with consistently. That’s not healthy for her daughter who probably finds alot of joy in spending time with her biological father.
I hope he had dyed her hair pin or purple, would have Halle said that he was turning Nahla into a punk rocker or an alien?
Well unfortunately this is what happens when your bad taste in men who are controlling, begin to affect the one thing in life you love above everything else, — the child you have had with the prick. Halle has horrible taste in men, this was expected actually.
Either that or men have horrible taste in Halle, which is equally as close to the truth in my opinion.
It could be that Halle is nice and sweet, up until things don’t go her way (a lot of abusive guys are like that too–they don’t just start showing their crazy in the beginning)–I have an aunt like that. Omg, give her a guy that won’t work, slaps her around, and does nothing, and she’ll wait hand and foot on him. Get her a guy who’s willing to try and make a family with her, support her and the family (kids), and she’ll play nice for a little bit, but then as soon as she’s in, she starts acting crazy. And of course he’ll get tired of it, and dump her. Already happened.
The judge said neither parent was allowed to mess with the kid’s hair. That doesn’t mean the judge believes Halle, it means the judge wants to keep the kid’s hair off the table as one more thing for Halle to drag her ex into court about. I doubt that the judge is pleased with Halle.
Nahla has the kind of blondish relatively loosely curled hair that could straighten temporarily with a blow dry and certainly would lighten with sun exposure. It also will change as she ages- mine was curly until I was two or three years old. The kid has at least 3/4 Northern European genes and her dad is a blue-eyed blond. I would not believe anything Halle said about this because she’s obsessed with tearing that child away from her father. She nearly had her boyfriend kill Nahla’s dad. She is quite capable of faking lab tests and I doubt she followed proper chain of custody protocols for the alleged test of Nahla’s alleged hair. Besides, I can’t believe she wouldn’t have brought it up in court before, if it’s been more than a year since she allegedly noticed the change.
Halle has a serious medical condition. The technical term is “batshit crazy”.
It simply looks like her hair was bleached from being in chlorine or the sun. Same thing happens to me and I’m african american. I feel so sorry for this little girl. If her father did in fact dye her hair, it was probably just to piss off Halle vs. trying to make her look white.
If Gabriel is chemically altering his child’s hair he has lost his mind. It’s more insidious if he is doing it to make her whiter.
But this child is a 6 yr old who is 3/4 white. Her hair is probably changing on it’s own. I don’t know of any product that permanently alerts the curl pattern of hair that takes a year to notice.
Also I think Halle needs to look in the mirror. This is the woman who had a nose job and always keeps her hair straight t to appear more white herself.
It’s wrong to try to change the appearance of the child’s race but I don’t doubt this comes from spite then any real concern for her daughter’s psyche.
I have no idea what Halle’s motivations are in her own appearance changes (nose job, hair, etc) but IF small noses and straight hair and lighter colored hair are things Halle associates with “being whiter” than it seems pretty hypocritical on her part to have surgery to narrow/reduce her own nose size and to have appeared in public many times with straight hair and colored / highlighted hair. I understand it’s different for a grown woman vs. a child to chemically alter their hair but if her real issue is one of race, then it seems VERY hypocritical that she herself engages in these behaviors. Because if she truly believes these things make one appear “whiter”, and that appearing “whiter” is wrong / racist / undesirable then she should not do them or condone them in any way – including with herself.
Also her allegations that over the course of year Gabriel has “gradually” dyed and straightened Nahla’s hair just seem paranoid and unrealistic…. Is he really gradually dying Nahla’s hair *just a little bit* each week so she won’t notice?! LOL… In which case, I’d love to know how he gets his 6 year old to sit still for all those hair appointments! Because mine can barely make it through a $20 cut at the mall!
Being follicle-challenged, and not in a good way, I’m betting that additional $12,200 in monthly support he’s demanding goes for haircare. Its about what I spend myself.
… They really needed a judge and lawyers to sort this out?
Oh God, again? Just take away from her daughter if she doesn’t want to stop. She obviously doesn’t love her kid if she wants to take father from child. Father who is not alcoholic or drug addict. Father who loves his daughter. Halle cares only about her own feelings.
It’s time for Gabriel to file for sole custody. So tired of this situation that Halle Berry creates. Also should we all remind Halle that she has two children and for both of them she choose white dudes. Who is racist here? Gabriel who was having child with black woman. Or Halle who did not want black father for her children?
The story about the dad who won’t brush his 6year old’s hair and it gets all ratty is kind of ridiculous, the child is 6 and brushing hair is not rocket science, time she learned to brush her own hair.
I straighten my hair since I was 12. I’m white. Pretty white. Like go for a walk in June and get totally burnt white. Does that mean I was trying to become practically invisible by straightening my hair. Damn, I might have a problem.
Another one of my friends loves curling her hair. I have to tell her to stop trying to be black.
And kids dying their hair is not torture, for Christ’s sake. There are uncomfortable shoes and clothes, cities full of polution, car accidents and God knows how many more things that we do in our daily lives that are way more dangerous than using a shampoo with chamomile to have a lighter hair colour (I know several white girls trying to turn themselves invisible who used these kind of shampoos).
And that’s only assuming thar cray-cray Halle who oh what a coincidence is right now trying to pay less for her daughter’s support is telling the truth. These crazy custody battles ARE extremely damaging for a child. EXTREMELY. And even more if you’re telling your kid the other parent hates them because they’re of mixed race (!!!!!!). There’s something called parental alienation, and seems like Halle is trying really hard to provoke that…
Mommy dearest!
Black girls’ and women’s hair is an issue rife with racism, sexism, and classism. Watch Chris Rock’s excellent documentary “Good Hair” to learn about this.
Also, Halle shouldn’t have asked her daughter what her dad did. Halle actually did the better thing by NOT doing that. You never put your kid between their parents, even in a loving relationship, let alone this trainwreck.
Her ex has made racist comments before, so I believe this IS a race issue. He doesn’t want his daughter to have “nappy hair.”
The girl doesn’t have ‘nappy hair’, she’s always got loose curls.
You can also ask a kid without making it about the other parent, ‘did you do something to your hair, sweetie?’ it’s a starter.
What exactly do you mean by “nappy hair”?
tarheel mentioned it, I wasn’t sure what it was so I googled it. It seems like it’s kinky hair, and Nahla’s hair is far from kinky.
I actually meant to reply to Tarheel not you. I don’t know why they chose to use that term when some Black people deem it derogatory given the historical context.
“…over the fact that…”
Not sure that’s a fact, champ.
Is Halle saying he’s doing this himself in the bathroom sink? Even with his modeling industry contacts, what kind of hair dresser would chemically straighten a 6 year old’s hair? Being that she’s 3/4 white, I’m guessing that her hair is more Caucasian & tends to lighten up in the sun like lots of other little kids. Halle believing in the one drop theory isn’t going to give her kid an Afro.
She is more tiresome than Cumberbatch! Anyone shocked she is still with Olivier? I feel bad for Gabriel, he may have really loved her, and there is nothing sadder than someone falling for a crazie. Halle sounds really controlling and it is sickening how she really does not want a willing, participating father into her child’s life.
SMH. The judge also chastised Gabe for calling Halle the N word. Court docs have leaked. He’s not worthy of any pity. They are both a hot mess.
Wow. I’m surprised at all of support for Aubrey when this same judge blasted him for calling Halle the N word. “‘The racial epithet made by Petitioner was and is completely and totally unacceptable.’Nahla is a child of both of these parents, making this sort of comment about Respondent affect the very core and being of Nahla. ‘And when Petitioner attacked Respondent for what she is and who she is, he was attacking Nahla because Nahla is part Respondent. And Nahla is part Petitioner. So when Petitioner did those things, that does serious damage to Nahla because he is attacking her core being, who she is.'” Court docs have leaked folks and it appears Halle wasn’t lying.
Halle needs to stop having babies with white men if she refuses to acknowledge them as part white. She herself is 50/50.
That being said, BOTH parents have the right to input on their child’s hair. He should have consulted with her. Period.
There is no reason imo for highlights at such a young age.
However, black children do have their hair straightened all the time, so why not Nahla? The fact that she looks more white when her hair is straight is because she IS part white.
“black children do have their hair straightened all the time, so why not Nahla ?”
Not at 6 , Not with chemicals and not without the mothers input
This poor kid. These two (adults) seem like they do not get along at ALL.
everytime a halle berry story comes up it only reminds me of how important it is to really, really think about the person you’re having a baby with. You have to deal with them possibly the rest of your life. You can’t decide how to do your daughter’s hair without going to court? Their daughter is going to have damage from dealing with them, no doubt
maybe she should have adopted india benet instead of just telling people she was doing it. her hair is much curlier than nahla’s.
Halle Berry seems to like going to court. This is beyond silly. Did anyone ask Nahla if anything had been done to her hair?
I really think it drives Halle nuts that Nahla looks so much like Gabriel Aubry. She cannot control her daughter looking like her father, and Halle wants to control.
The n-word in Halle’s case is NUTJOB.
Tbh Nahlas hair looks exactly the same to me? And I’m sorry but I don’t get the reasoning of ‘he does shit to his kids hair cause he’s a dirty racist and doesn’t want her to look black’ um. He intentional got with Halle knowing full well shes mixed, obviously then their child would be mixed? So, if he wanted a white looking kid why not settle with one of the million white girls that im sure would love to hit it?
Also, maybe I’m just jaded, but I’m really getting tired of people saying things like straighting your hair is giving yourself the white wash. Um…okay, because you know whites are the only ones that come with straight hair? If I dyed my hair black n straightened it am I trying to be Asian? Just getting kind of tired of all the white prejudice I encounter everyday and getting oh its acceptable because your white. Um no. I don’t see colour when I look at you and its starting to make me angry that race is always brought into matters like this. We want equality but its always comes down to us vs them mentality where even the small things like straightening your hair turns into ‘hes ashamed of his daughters mixed race and wants to make her look less ethnic’
Im not trying to be ignorant in anyway but it seriously gets old.