It’s no fun talking about a new Benedict Cumberbatch interview once dozens of people have threadjacked an older post to discuss it. But here we go anyway. Apparently, in this week’s print edition of People Magazine, Benedict has given an interview. He talks about Sophie Hunter, his lover and fiancée, and the engagement and all of that. The way he talks about her is… odd. I’m saying that as a Cumberbitch and as a long-time gossip-reader. Usually when a celebrity man gets engaged, they say nice things about their fiancée, like “I met the coolest, most amazing woman and I had to lock it down, you know?” Benedict doesn’t do that. He always talks about Sophie in relation to how she feels about him, or as if she’s an extension of him. It’s really weird and somewhat patronizing.
He broke the hearts of millions of fans earlier this month when he announced his engagement to his girlfriend of one year, Sophie Hunter. And in the Monday issue of People, Benedict Cumberbatch talked about why he likes his 36-year-old soon-to-be-wife so much.
‘She’s just really cool,’ the 38-year-old actor, who is promoting his new movie The Imitation Game, offered. Benedict shared that, despite developing a worldwide fandom, he wants to keep his private life as normal as possible. ‘I want to normalize this part of our lives,’ the Sherlock star shared.
However, that doesn’t mean that the meme-inspiring British star isn’t head over heels for his new fiancée who he met on the set of 2009’s Burlesque Fairytale. He explained to the magazine that she flawlessly handles the abundance of adoration from Benedict’s many adoring fans.
‘She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit. It could be a really difficult thing, but she’s just so in command of it.’
However, while the star was open about his admiration for his future wife, he was mum on whether or not they’ll be quick to start a family, saying: ‘I’ve got to be very coy on that one. Very silent.’
It might not surprise you to learn that the star, who is famous for playing intellectuals like Sherlock Holmes and Stephen Hawking, is most happy at home with a good book.
‘I’m a homebody,’ he said. ‘I love to stay in at night, light a fire, have a whiskey and watch a movie or read a good book…People forget about books. They’re always just turning on the television, but reading a good book is the most nourishing thing you can do.’
On his off days, Benedict said that he also likes keeping busy by being active and taking a walk or a hike outside. ‘I love just taking a brisk walk in the park. And hiking, just getting away in nature,’ he said. ‘You get some perspective and see the world as it really is. Which is, we’re a species, on a planet.’
“She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me.” Um, but how to you feel about her? I actually think Benedict is trying to convince his fanbase that Sophie is “worthy” of him, which… pisses me off, but I also acknowledge that many of Benedict’s fans believe that she is deeply unworthy, so there you go.
Benedict also talked about his fame, saying: “I’m used to observing, and now I’m the one being observed. But the trick is to not be self-conscious and go about your normal day.” And he was thrilled to be seated next to Brad and Angelina at the Oscars, saying: “I was chatting with them and thinking, am I really sitting next to these two now? That’s amazing.”
What else… Benedict told the Marvel fanboys that the Doctor Strange thing is still just a rumor. And Benedict also told The Times that he’s finally quit smoking, saying: “I’ve given up smoking. Although I shouldn’t say that, because if I ever have a cigarette again and it’ll be all over the place, ‘Oh he lied.’ But, touch wood, I haven’t smoked for a month now and it’s really helping.” Wow, that might explain some stuff. Nicotine withdrawal is a hell of a thing. *puts Nicorette on the wedding registry*
Photos courtesy of PCN, WENN.
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I don’t get all the love for him. He is trying so hard these past days
Seriously, does he talk about anything else these days?! What happened to “keep your private life private”?!
YAY! Sophie is his equal and she loves him. Bite it jealous H8trs.
Cause the players gonna play, play, play!
And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate!
Baby I’m just gonna shake, shake, shake!
(Thank me later for that ear worm)
There will be retribution.
Just think, while you’re getting down and out and planning your revenge, you could have been getting down to
This.
Sick.
BEAT.
And the ain’ters gotta ain’t.
Change of earworm, in dedication to the lovingest lover in the loving universe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTpUVAcvWfU
Having seen that song online fused with aerobics championships all I am now seeing is overly happy people in 80’s aerobics outfits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vps0sSH84bo
Ever since these first photos of them, I’ve been rather inCumbered by the fact that this couple had shades of another couple, but I just couldn’t place it. In particular her, with her posh, slightly upturned nose.
And then today eureka! Maybe it’s because I am in a lack-of-sleep haze, but I think I found who they remind me of… and this video might even describe the Batch’s feelings for his love…
PS watch for the second shot in the video of the actual couple and tell me I am not on to something. LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u0EvUtbHW0
This will be my victory dance when the engagement is called off. Eat it, nannies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz1Jwyxd4tE
@mia girl what in the creeper Christmas hell was that???
@Abbott – I know. I’m sorry. I am delerious today.
Somehow in watching this every year as a kid, it is embedded into the neural networks in my brain. The strangest things will trigger flashbacks… and Sophie’s nose somehow made me think of Miss Jessica… which led me to make the leap to Cumberclaus.
As far as the video, it cracked me up that someone would actually make that with Beatles music. Whaaat?!
PS You are lucky I did not post the actual acid-induced Jessica scene/song from the Santa Claus is Coming to Town. It was so weird/trippy/disturbing that it has been edited out of the DVD copies they sell today.
Abbott, I’m coming for you for that. I just put your name in my Blank Space. (oo-er!)
I’m super late to the party, but CHRIST ON A BIKE she looks just like him. Freaky.
That’s what I was thinking, a lot of couples sort of favor or mirror each other.
I bet this marriage sticks.
They really don’t look alike. And I think a marriage ‘sticking’ comes down to chemistry. Of which there is none.
Look how much cheap marketing HW is getting for his money. What are we up to today – $50.00? You can’t be that with a stick. Go ahead ladies, ask your manager for your cash per post and have a good afternoon.
It’s Benedicts world and we just live in it. It’s all about him all the time huh? The more he talks the more he sounds like a spoilt, overgrown manchild.
It may also explain why he descibed himself as an only child even though he has an older sister, its puts him at the center of family life and negates his sisters place in the family set up.
When he officiated his friends wedding he brought along the blonde Russian girl to deflect any “oh he must be gay as he is at gay wedding with no female partner” rumours.
When the rumours about her sprung up (her long term partner and general sketchiness as to what she did for a living, cough) he waltzed out of that nightclub in London holding a female friends hand right in front of the paps.
And now he is promoting a film that he stars in as a gay man, once again a convenient ladyfriend is dragged out of the woodwork.
TLDR: Women seem to be accessories to him, and he is coming across as a total twat. Good luck Sophie you will need it.
When I saw him on Graham Norton a few weeks ago, that’s exactly the word that sprang to mind – manchild. Not necessarily in a bad way – he came across as nice enough – just as a little boy trapped in the body of a nearly 4O year old man.
Now, with his ‘me me me’ demeanour, I’m seeing the downside of perpetual adolescence.
@Zapp Brannigan @Etheldreda
Yup. Have run out of things to say on yet another BC thread, except that he urgently needs to take some time out, get some perspective and grow up. Whatever else is going on here – and let’s face it, none of us can possibly know – it’s becoming clear that he is utterly self-absorbed.
HE has a sister? Really?
That’s the first I heard of it too.
He has a much-older half sister named Tracy, from his mother’s first marriage. Her daughter Emily (his niece) was his PA at least until recently although she hasn’t been seen for a while……
Maybe Emily wouldn’t go along with the current crap and decided to take a break.
or Emily looked too much like a possible GF/threat to TWILTWIPT and was sacked
Re Emily He apparently said something at the LFF after party for TIG about Emily being mistaken for his gf often and joked about it annoying her bf, but I’m willing to bet, if she’s fired or “on sabbatical,” it’s more to do with not wanting to “cross the streams” for the casual viewer or fan who doesn’t know she’s his niece and just says “*gasp* pretty young blonde girl with an engaged man!”
I was actually surprised how much dislike did Benny get after his engagement. But I don’t read his posts much. He is sort of hot, I probably would (given I wasn’t tired or had a headache), love him as Sherlock but he is not that interesting to me.
Today I saw yet another post about him and his twue wuw and I actually yelled at my screen “Oh for f’s sake shut up already!”
So now I get it.
I doubt seriously he quit smoking.
And I don’t know how much more of these god awful articles I can take. I just want him to take some time off to relax and think about the situation he’s in. And make a smart decision (think, Benedict… think!).
And of course the smart decision would be to call off the engagement, focus on his work, and perhaps date around and find someone that’s better suited for him.
still we’re here commenting. i love the comments. the more he gets into our nerves the more we can bitch. so he is doing us a foavour 😛
I guess I’m just as bad as everyone else… I have to keep up tabs on this “relationship”.
I need a hobby. *sigh*
I thought his private life was private. He continues talking about his engagement, does not mention his fiancée by name and now has begun talking about things I’m not sure people are interested in.
Congratulations on quitting smoking, I truly hope he doesn’t relapse. He has spent at least half his life smoking… his poor, poor lungs need a break (and apparently so does his brain)
I’m curious why people don’t like her and don’t seem to think that she suited to him. I don’t know that much about him or why he’s special but I’m curious as to why people are up in arms about her. Please elaborate. Thanks!
You have a lot of reading to do.
No idea either but I’m just here for the beverage selection.
lol @lilacflowers
There isn’t anything particular about her, and I actually dislike reading the bad things some people write about her. For the most part, it isn’t her, it’s him, and the fact that they have no chemistry together. There were a lot of comments in the past that this relationship looks good on paper, but irl we aren’t buying it.
She is SO pregnant. In my opinion, that’s also why he suddenly (finally) felt the urge to quit smoking. And propose 🙂
@Em
He claims he quit smoking over a month ago. (People said they saw him smoking & holding a pack of cigarettes in New York.) I find it strange that he only brought it up (quitting smoking) in one interview.
Sophie did not look pregnant at the TIG Premiere.
Pregnancy is possible, but there are a few things that go against that theory:
1. He would be happier (being dad is his biggest dream)
2. She doesn’t look pregnant. At all.
3. He would be waaay more protective of her and their relationship if there was a baby in the way. Currently he’s pimping out his private life like a Kardashian.
Yeah, but she’s really, really slim (and tall?), and sometimes women that tiny don’t look pregnant until well into their second trimester. Princess Kate doesn’t…
He didn’t even help her into the car after the TIG premiere in NY! I think he would have done that for TMOMC (The Mother Of My Children)
@Ingrid: “pimping out his private life like a Kardashian.”
LOL!!!
She’s not.
”Um, but how to you feel about her?”
I think he’s pretty much told us.
She is prepared to play second fiddle – at best – to his life, and that’s what he wants in a woman.
And that is more or less that.
Perfect Oscar season companion… She cleans up on paper (even if the CV is one of the best works of fiction I’ve seen in ages), she’s not a hideous troll beast and falls into the parameters for ‘conventionally pretty’, and she’s got connections. She will keep quiet, smile (pained but it’s a smile), and when he’s done with her, she’ll go back to dancing with octopus and staging money-sucks of plays.
Harvey Weinstein deserves The Best Adapted Screenplay Oscar for “Sophie’s CV”.
is she not pregnant?
Do you think HW bigged up her CV or BC? Maybe Ben wanted her to look better than she is because she would better fit in with his gigantic ego. He couldn’t afford a slacker on this trip.
This feels very affleck/garner to me. Blech.
Which is why she is perfect for him. I don’t think she is the problem here, it’s his handling of it, the white washing of her CV (some are even saying she doesn’t appear under the list of Oxford’s Alum), his 180 degree turn his personality has taken, and the blatant spin involved, that has rubbed people the wrong way and turned them away from BC & even possibly, TIG.
I like him but enoug now, just make him shut up! He’s oversaturing and oversharing too much.
Somehow I had a different definition of a word homeboy in my mind.
“homebody” was the word, though.
Is he though? He was out allllll of the time. Like I see myself as a homebody and I’d truly collapse in a puddle of misery after a few weeks if I had to go out as much as BC does. And that’s not counting promo times for a movie. He shows up to a lot of things. I mean, I think he might want to be a homebody, but I don’t think he really was one before.
store openings anyone?
Cate, I thought the same thing. He doesn’t strike me as a homebody (like McAvoy) but more like Hiddles with as much as he is seen around London (excluding going to the theater, which is expected).
“Homeboy” (lol!) cannot stay at home! Homeboy craves the constant attention of of being noticed out and about. Homeboy would probably go insane if he were to stay at home alone for more than 2 hours.
I wonder if she realized what she was signing up for–all this negativity about his feelings for her. She has a lovely face–looks like the kind best friend in a movie. (Love the bit about staying home and reading–he’s singing my song there.)
He’s such a private man, his private life is his own. He doesn’t want to talk about it. Please don’t ask about his engagement or possible upcoming baby (Coming to cinemas in Limited Release approx. Feb 2015…or is it?), as he doesn’t feel comfortable discussing it, why do you care anyway? It’s private, it’s not who he is, the Times was him being normal, doesn’t everyone do it before a giant press tour? What’s wrong with you.
Sophie thinks he’s private and ace, yes Sophie loves him and his work, and thinks he’s the cats pyjamas because…well… he is. She is a living breathing extension of him, and her every thought and word is wrapped up in his feelings. That’s what counts isn’t it? But please, it’s private.
-Benedict’s next interview with People
LOL
NGL, I am so going to have to see if Kneepads uses this now, lol. There seems to be a 48 hour turnaround on what’s going on in social media and what his next interview “addresses”. Or which nannies show up here to be “omg, look how happy! omg pregnancy rumors!”
He sounds like such a feminist, doesn’t he? (Seriously Benedict, try something different next interview!)
omfg. cnt breathe,, spot on lindy
He’s not a Yank. Why would anyone expect him to be like one? He’s not exuberant in public (shrug).
Maybe Sophie asked him to keep it low-key.
In any event, I wish them the best.
(shrug)
“Maybe Sophie asked him to keep it low-key.”
Low-key? LOW-KEY? This enGAGment is the exact opposite of low-key.
When Brits say “Yank” it always sounds like an insult. Not all “yanks” are “exuberant” in public either.
Well it isn’t always an insult – ALL nations have pets words for groups from other Nations, its hardly a big deal is it…
So when Brits call Argentinians “Argie” that’s not an insult either?
@fingerbinger I kind of feel that way, too. (I’m American and a big Anglophile, but it sounds kind of dismissive and “othering.”)
I’ve kind of felt he is patronizing for a while now. Ever since he tried to make a big deal about feminism (and Indian feminism in particular). It was very, ‘Oh see, you don’t understand, you’re demeaning yourself, I’m HELPING you learn about self respect.’ Very privileged white man’s view of feminism. So, since then, yeah, not so happy about the Batch and his Intellect, though I still think he’s hot with a beautiful voice.
Cosigned so vehemently. I’ve always felt his “feminism” was very typical of his age, gender, and background. He can’t possibly understand what he’s talking about, and it shows. His “embarrassment” over the word Cumberb(tch frequently led him to say that it set feminism back sooo many “notches,” which… what does that even mean? How can you set feminism back by using a word, and that’s a weird word to choose anyway. It all seemed white-knighty and paternalistic. I didn’t realize he’d said anything about Indian feminism! How presumptuous. And he wore that t-shirt, ugh.
Now that he’s called his own future wife a Cumberb*tch, forget about it. I know he was joking, but for someone who made so much out of being uncomfortable with that word, he sure seems to have it on the tip of his tongue. I’m not saying he’s a bad guy, but just one who knows a very little bit about social issues and thinks it makes him enlightened. (And his statements about class and tradition have always made me cringe.)
And, Indira, yes, he is still gorgeous . 😉 He just needs to tone down the egotism. If Sophie adores and supports and loves and respects him (him, him, him!) as much as he implies, that could be enabling and I don’t see much hope for a change.
This is from an older CB article:
*Benedict Has a Paternalistic, Somewhat Condescending Message for His Indian Fans & His Female Fans (it’s like he’s speaking directly to me!!!): When asked about by an Indian media outlet about his Indian Cumberbitches, Benedict said: “Especially in India there have been some extra ordinary events recently that too some awful events. Women need to take pride in their collective identity. I know it’s a silly fan name and I know it’s just for fun but you know the one I don’t like because it’s counter-productive to feminism in general. I prefer the idea of something softer like ‘Cumber Collective’.” http://www.celebitchy.com/339364/benedict_cumberbatch_women_need_to_take_pride_in_their_collective_identity/
I found that to be a sweeping generalization. India’s going through a HUGE political and social revolution where the Hindu right has come into political power and is policing ‘Indian culture’ (their own warped version, anyway) in a very strict manner. I fear it’s not far from becoming a heavily fundamentalist country (which a lot of people seem to think it already is, but it’s so vast and houses so many races and religions that there is impossible for there to ever be one India). In the past few years feminism and women’s rights have been making powerful breakthroughs. The thing is, we had equality in a lot of things that even the West did not. Women have always had voting rights, we had a woman Prime Minister (our PM is the seat of power, the President is just a nominal head) in the 80s. We have a lot of interesting traditions which exhibits the fact that women were once equal members of society but the colonial and post colonial eras are where we suffered. But for all the progress we made recently, the political climate is such that the Hindu high caste male POV is the mainstream view. Women, lower castes and classes are suffering again. We’re fighting but scary things are happening with regard to censorship and paid media blackouts.
In this regard I do take umbrage at his comments. He doesn’t know anything about India and it’s pluralism so making sweeping, paternalistic, patriarchial statements like that feel insulting.
Ooo sorry I ranted!
This reminded me of something. His “Cumberbitches” comment aside, I was also bothered by his remarks in the Out interview where he was talking about admonishing a bunch of Harrow schoolmates – “a Sikh, a Jordanian prince, an Indian, and a Nigerian” – for chasing down a gay student. I appreciate standing up against bullying, but it always struck me how he felt it was necessary to specifically point out the races/nationalities of those schoolmates. Yes, I’m sure those from the backwaters of Asia, Africa and the Middle East desperately need to have his White Man’s enlightenment bestowed upon them.
@Indira, thanks for posting that! He is really something, going on about an entire country that way.
@Beth, me, too. It reeeally irked me at the time. I can easily imagine him saying that to his ragtag collection of junior princes and potentates from around the Empire (/sarcasm) and setting them straight. Way to shame ’em, Hero White Man!
Despite all my prior misgivings amid my Cumberbatchedness, that Out interview was the beginning of the end for me. Far too much arrogance and sourness was on display for my taste, and that primed me to look even more askance at the whole engagement and everything that’s come since. If you’re looking at him in a certain light, he really is, as they say, “problematic” (I hate that word but I’m in a hurry). If you look at him in another light, he’s just a great guy who says some unfortunate things in his haste to get his feelings out there. I migrated from the latter camp to the former over the past 2 months or so.
@Lu
I always thought he had a bitchy/dick-ish side to him, given his comments about Downton Abbey, Jonny Lee Miller, complaining about being labelled posh, etc. He also struck me as being rather lacking in self-awareness, like how he blabbed about his mum asking him not to use his real surname in case the descendants of slaves his family used to own seek him out for reparations (I mean… who says that shit in public). But he also has an endearing and goofy side, and it’s easy to overlook those problematic statements when it’s being served up with a huge dollop of charm.
I agree the sheen started coming off around the time of the Out/Flaunt interviews; I remember some fans being pissed about his remarks regarding “florals” and Johnlock fanfic/fanart (the latter made worse when he concocted his own Sherlock-Adler porn in the Elle feature). And the douchebaggery has gotten worse over the past few months, such that even when he says something nice about fans, people are questioning if he’s being sincere or disingenuous. Someone on another forum said this about him (and this was more than a year ago) – when you say something problematic once (or even twice), it could perhaps be attributable to poor choice of words, quotes being distorted by the media, etc. But when it happens consistently (and in quick succession in recent months), then the problem most likely is YOU. Rings increasingly true, I’m afraid.
@IndirA great rant
Beth, right there with you. It started for me with the SH LFF silliness in early Oct followed by the Out & Flaunt interviews a week later when he lost his luster in my eyes. Since then, the grumpines and weirdness surrounding his engagement has turned me off. But I keep clicking on his posts because I can’t turn away from the train wreck…
Yeah and the “florals” comment is just made all the more delicious by the fact that every damn time I see Sophie (and not just that Erdem dress), girl is wearing…guess what?…floral patterns
regardless of what you think of him personally, whatever he is doing, it is entirely what he is supposed to be doing.
his oscar campaign could have started as early as feb, but probably didn’t kick into high gear until after tiff, so september/october
separate issue, but speaking from experience, no actor who has been giving interviews for years will pass more intense scrutiny. thats why my bar is low lol
“regardless of what you think of him personally, whatever he is doing, it is entirely what he is supposed to be doing.”
J, I couldn’t disagree more. Taking a piss on the fanfic/slash writers, complaining about florals that rubberneck when noticed, sporting a grump face when at award shows and on the red carpet and talking about his beloved in distant terms makes for BAD publicity. Timing his engagement announcement for the US publicity campaign may have been a “smart” move for the campaign, but it will get side eyes from those who expected him to let the work stand on its own.
No one’s complaining about him campaigning, just the douchey things he’s done while doing so.
@mtRunner:
you’re misunderstanding me.
hes using canned replies and all his print interviews are being approved by weinstein’s team before they are published. they also monitor other media and the live events. so regardless of anyones feelings on it, he’s doing what he is being told. otherwise, he would have gotten pulled/adjusted a month ago
idk ive followed worse oscar campaigns i’m not that bothered at this point tbh
I didn’t know that he really called his fiancee a Cumberb*tch. I thought that was a joke that someone else put in. I’m speechless.
He really has nothing but contempt for her and she sits there with a semi-smile on her face. She better run for her life because I see nothing but cruelty from him. No love at all.
Moodgirl I never interpreted that comment as contempt but desperate to slag off his fans, mock them maybe, and maybe a dose of hypocrisy and not believing in his prior opinion re that word. Whether the whole insult the fans angle is his personal feelings or part of the oscar strategy is the question still up in the air
Indira, thank you for the explanation and history. I did not know a lot of that.
Was intending not to comment on BC’s goings on again, but have been drawn back in by this discussion – it’s interesting stuff!
I agree that some of BC’s remarks relating to both feminism and other cultures read as problematic and paternalistic. The Harrow comment especially was like something straight out of Kipling, and made me cringe when I read it. It’s slightly ironic that in calling someone out for homophobia he ends up highlighting his own prejudices (assuming, of course, that these were his actual words and they haven’t been twisted in some way).
BC reminds me very much of the boys I met at university who had come straight from their all-male boarding schools – terribly well-meaning, and keen to be seen as on-message, but ultimately very much a product of the environment they’d been brought up in. No matter how much they tried to advertise their feminist credentials, there was always this over-arching sense of white male privilege in whatever they said and did. I guess spending your formative years in an environment almost entirely empty of women must have a lasting effect on your worldview.
I’ve always found it telling that BC’s most admired character is Tietjens from Parade’s End – he’s an admirable character in many ways, but he’s also got that patronising ‘noblesse oblige’ thing going on.
Agree on the comment about Tietjens. I couldn’t stand his character. I get that his honour and moral code are unimpeachable, but I seriously wanted to bitch-slap him for being such an insufferable, pompous old fart. No wonder Sylvia can’t stand him.
I wonder if he resides in that “boarding school” bubble. He left boarding more than 20 years ago. He attended Manchester, one would think he has gained greater perspective. I am glad to see people express the same thoughts I had when I became a BC fan earlier this year. I had read his comments about beating those rioting during the London riots, I was apalled for his thoughts and his stupidity in mentioning such in an interview! At that moment, i reconsidered being a fan.
For an actor, he has extreme issues in conveying a message properly hence all his backpedaling.
@Laetitia I think to some extent he probably still is. I know he went to Manchester, but that’s still a fairly elite university, and (although I might be wrong here) I doubt the student body on their Drama program is exactly diverse. I attended a similar ‘type’ of university in the UK, and the Drama students there were a pretty privileged bunch, mostly from private or grammar schools. University life tends to be a bit of a bubble anyway.
And yes – the London riots comments were ill-advised at best. I don’t endorse what happened, but I doubt BC has the first clue how ignored and disenfranchised some of the young people involved were feeling.
Sorry, but I’ve got to chip in on the London riots thing. As someone who lives in London and was scared to death that night by those violent, opportunistic thugs, I really get angry when people try to justify their actions as a disenfranchised and marginalised youth. Nope. They were rampaging and terrorising people and there are no socioeconomic excuses for that. Those people are filth. They started fires, destroyed homes and businesses and even killed people on the process. How can anyone even begin to excuse that?
Not excusing anything Soothy. I live in London too, in one of the areas that was thoroughly smashed up during the riots, as it happens. I know how unpleasant and frightening it was, and I’m glad those involved were dealt with quickly afterwards. But if we want to avoid a similar thing happening again, I don’t think it’s as simple as dismissing all those rioting as ‘filth’ (in fact, I’m a little uncomfortable with *anyone* being labelled as ‘filth’). I’ve worked in inner-city schools with young people who are always on the edges of, if not fully immersed in, some pretty thuggish and violent behaviour (knife crime, gangs, sexual violence), and some of the circumstances they’re growing up in are utterly horrific – totally beyond what I’d ever imagined before I began working with them. Many of them are angry, but unable to articulate their feelings in any way other than violence. Some of them are also almost totally amoral, as they’ve had no input whatsoever from parents etc. about ‘right’ and ‘wrong.’
Anyway, as far as BC was concerned, I have no problem whatsoever with him criticising the rioters, but I think the comment he made about ‘beating’ them was taking things a step too far.
its an old comment floribunda, so idk if anything is missing, but i got what he meant, it was just poorly expressed. the rioters took livelihoods out of residents’ hands
they destroyed a lot of businesses, many run by local ppl. lot of ’em didn’t have the $$ to carry enough insurance coverage. plus the innocent ppl they injured, all those needed jobs and ability to work lost. it made areas with already poor economies even worse, and most the attention to their cause was overshadowed by the negative aspect
I’ve worked/volunteered with disadvantaged teens too and none of them used their appalling childhoods as an excuse to perpetrate terror and violence.
Sorry but I stand by what I said. They were like possessed monsters and I don’t intend to align or dignify them with a political purpose.
BC’s point about a beating so they could be at the mercy of the decent and innocent people they were looking to destroy, had my 100% backing.
@floribunda I agree with what you have stated.
@soothy I am apalled by your comments. Violence is never a means to vindication or justice for the “innocent”. Your comments are reminsicent of conversations I’ve heard in places such as Egypt and Pakistan when I’ve visited, that’s saying a lot based on the current conditions within those countries.
@laetitia, keep in mind this is the same person who on another thread was saying whites shouldn’t feel shame for their ancestors owning slaves and came up with the racist red herring by claiming blacks want people like Cumberbatch to relinquish all their income LOL and be destitute.
Her antipathy for the descendents of slaves combined with her love of using violence against the oppressed makes her a likely candidate for anti-social personality disorder. And when she wasn’t winning the argument she came up with a new name pretending to be some outsider who just happened to take the same opinion as her.
Anyone with half a brain knows the correlation between violent childhoods and violence later on in life, and the association between social marginalisation and crime.
Oh and she also insisted she was bright too. LOL she’s a joke. Ignore her, it’s what I’m doing.
@Laetitita
I’m appalled at YOU for trying to justify their savagery. I’m also offended that you would try and tell me what I should feel after I was evacuated from my flat that night and still have panic attacks related to it. People were MURDERED by these monsters.
@claire
I realised you were odd, but inventing racist quotes which everyone knows I did not remotely say (it was two days ago, would you like me to link the thread?) seems insane, even for you. How can you think that’s ok?
Oh and btw, when several people disagree with you, they’re not the same person..you’re just wrong.
Every other article on here seems to be about him these days :-/
I like this website – love it. But really had enough of him now. I am neutral. Dont like him, dont dislike him wish someone could explain the fuss. He isn’t handsome, but has a great voice.
Plug his mouth with a humble pie, Sophie. QUICK!!
For someone Blake Lively desperate to be A list, this guy is burning a lot of bridges, isn’t he? I imagine the sensible part of the Cumberpeople crowd must be getting over him quite fast after seeing his real attitude.
And it’s only November. By Feb. 22 everyone will be sick to death of him and he won’t even get the Oscar. In the end of the day he will be stuck with this chick he couldn’t care less about and what makes him so sure that his career will take off as he plans?
Remember how Jude Law and Clive Owen were the biggest things in the world for a couple of months? See how that turned out. Both are still working, of course, but they’re nowhere close to the Hollywood superstars they were supposed to be.
So stay humble, son. You are not the magical snowflake you think you are.
Your last line I think is it in a nutshell. Colin Firth did an insane campaign for Kings Speech but he did it and didn’t let it get to him, that I could see anyway.
Old Benny Boy really seems to be buying his hype and getting sucked into it and it isn’t a good look on him. If he doesn’t win (which I doubt he will to be honest, I can see Keaton getting it, or even Carrell, and I think Redmayne is handling the promo tour with better humour which while average Joe won’t pick up on it, industry people will), HW will toss him aside like a used tissue.
Eddie seems truly humbled and touched with his Oscar buzz which makes people (voters) like him. BC currently comes across as “I’m best and I deserve this. I’m a big deal”.
Even Carrell sad “it would be really cool” to get Oscar. HONESTY!
BC really made a huge mistake when he signed up to play Richard III followed by Sherlock special. We are in this mess because he doesn’t have time to campaign but Harvey demands it.
Colin Firth, Eddie Redmayne, Steve Carrell and Michael Keaton were humbled by their years in the Hollywood industry. They had their far share of stinkers in the past so they experienced first hand how fortunes change quickly in this town. This is why its important to sort out your priorities in life without being swallowed by the PR machine.
Benedict is coming to Hollywood on a high. He’s overwhelmed with all the attention and blissfully unaware of the lows yet to come. He’s going to learn the hard way not to buy his own hype. Just wait a couple of months and watch his smugness get crushed little by little.
As much as he gets on my nerves and has disappointed me lately, I won’t enjoy watching it if he has a hard fall (OMG Sherlock reference). It’s just human folly that he’s got going on here. He’s always been rather immature, privileged, and—despite his avowal that growing up, he always felt loved and supported to the hilt by his parents—insecure, which I think made him a combination of lovable/sweet/funny and self-centered/prickish/needy. Lately the latter qualities are winning out, but I have hope that he can find his balance without suffering too much. I think that no matter how soft the inevitable fall, though, it will affect him deeply, because he seems to have a delicate ego.
Benedict has had share of lows… excuse me, the worst film of last year, the Fifth Estate and he got a lot of stick for Star Trek.
*P’enny*
True, TFE was a low, but he was enjoying a monumental “high” nonetheless with the success of Sherlock, which made up for it, I think. If TIG receipts don’t cover HV’s expenses AND BC fails to get an Oscar nom, that will be a real “low” for him. He’ll sulk for a couple of months and then bounce back when he prepares for his sold-out performances of Hamlet. If he gets panned by the critics for that, he’ll be in need of industrial strength therapy come summer.
I know Benedict has been an actor in Britain for years and went through the normal uncertainty that comes with the career. But Hollywood is a different beast and you have to recognize that he got really far in America RELATIVELY fast. A lot of actors take more than a decade to get the stuff Benedict is getting in three, four years. He’s been very lucky in ways that guys like fellow brits Dan Stevens, Tom Hiddleston, his co-star Matthew Goode, Hugh Dancy and a bunch of others were not. And i believe his luck and privilege did not give him a sense of perspective. That’s all I am saying.
@Lydia M: Yes! That´s it.
Oh please. Star Trek was very successful and it was ensemble. Yeah, The Fifth Estate was a huge stinker but as far as I know it wasn’t his fault and I didn’t see many people blaming him. The movie just happened to be BAD. Awful script, bad timing and no accuracy. It was a very recent and touchy subject to start with.
Anyway, did you notice that he got his first Hollywood roles on high profile projects, including a huge franchise, an Oscar winning movie and not long after he was leading The Fifth Estate and The Imitation Game? Poor Dan Stevens and Tom Hiddleston would kill to get half the things Benedict had in the 2011-2014 period. Eddie Redmayne had to hustle for years and years getting small parts in shitty movies to be where he is now. There is no comparison to Benedict’s relatively quick rise to fame in Hollywood.
This is why his ego got out of control and he needs a tiny piece of humble pie to tone it down.
I will say that he could probably ignore both of those examples and chalk then down to various things that had nothing to do with him. So he might not class them as failures. I could be wrong but I doubt he spent too much time worrying about either of them, especially Star Trek.
The Star Trek thing, as the casting wasn’t his decision. He claimed that he was hired thinking he was playing John Harrison, until he arrived on set that’s what he thought. The backlash was aimed a little at him but mainly Abrams.
Fifth Estate, yes was a stinker but he got fairly good reviews even from people who said the movie was all over the place. That and you could convince yourself that it was the subject matter and the lack of studio backing that contributed.
Actors are ALL about ego so you can bet if they can throw the blame to something else, they will.
Quick rise to fame? I’m afraid I don’t quite understand. He’s been working steadily since he graduated, but the man did everything – from small plays to UK sitcoms, from voice work to independent movies during his UK years. He was in a few Hollywood movies too, but those were small parts. His big break didn’t happen until Sherlock and he’d been working almost 10 years before that. It’s not what I’d consider a fast route.
I’m excited to see how things change for Tom with the expanding range of roles he’s been taking on. I confess that I worry that like Ben, Tom’s ego will become insufferable if his star rises a lot higher as a result. I don’t think he’ll resort to the snark or patronizing that Ben has, but more the of cringe-worthy cheeseball-ness that we’ve seen in the past. (more self-help-bookish tweets and philosophizing, ugh).
I agree that Ben needs a slice of humble pie right now and it wouldn’t be a bad thing for his Oscar expectations to NOT be realized. It may help to balance out off the ego-stroking that he gets from the internet and give him a more realistic picture of where he stands in the Hollywood universe.
“Anyway, did you notice that he got his first Hollywood roles on high profile projects, including a huge franchise, an Oscar winning movie and not long after he was leading The Fifth Estate and The Imitation Game? Poor Dan Stevens and Tom Hiddleston would kill to get half the things Benedict had in the 2011-2014 period.”
Errrr…I believe Hiddles already had 1) huge franchise – Marvel movies (Skull Island which is under development) 2) Oscar winning movie – Midnight in Paris 3) Leading – Only Lovers Left Alive/I saw the Light
So Hiddles probably won’t kill to get…and Hiddles is never POOR I guess?
@MtnRunner-well, imo i think other stuff is at play in this particular case, but all of them go through something for a while, it’s pretty normal and often temporary
@FW first of all, 12 years a slave won 3 Oscars, including Best Picture and was produced by the mighty Brad Pitt and new hotshot Steve McQueen, therefore giving Benedict a chance to attend all those awards and do a lot of networking. Midnight in Paris didnt give Tom any of these opportunities, lets be reasonable. Woody Allen doesnt even campaign to start with.
Only lovers left alive was a Jim Jarmusch film, which might give him some indie cred but it’s not a break out role. Tilda Swinton totally stole his thunder.
I Saw The Light didnt even come out yet but its not looking good at the moment.
Crimson Peak can be good but Guillermo Del Toro is terribly hit and miss. Besides, there is a chance he will be eclipsed by Jessica Chastain’s moment.
Benedict’s first leading role in Hollywood was Julian Assange, for God’s sake. Everyone knows who this guy is or at least what he did. It was a very, very promising role that could’ve been a great hit if the movie itself wasn’t so bad in terms of script and accuracy. And right after that he took The Imitation Game, which made him Weinstein’s golden boy for the season. Not to mention that he sold out Hamlet for 2015, there is another season of Sherlock coming and there is all the free publicity with the magazine covers and newspaper profiles. This guy is coming to Hollywood as a hot commodity and thats why his head got big.
I am sure Tom would switch careers with Benedict in a heartbeat if he could. There is no comparison.
oh here we go again, blatantly comparing Tom and Benedict’s careers, without rational argument. I am sorry Lydia [I suspect your real name is Delorb] Tom is not on the same level as Benedict’s career yet, and I wouldn’t expect it to be. He’s nearly five years behind Benedict in drama roles and has only this year escaped the 6 month a year Marvel train. I am sure Tom would give his eye to be a sell out in Hamlet, but at the same time, Benedict is sniffing at Marvel and wants his shot at a franchise. Even if Benedict lands Dr Strange, I am sure he will be wishing it was as successful and popular as RDJ and TH. Benedict is doing the Hollow Crown, a series Hiddleston committed too, when he was wrapping Avengers.
It’s very much swings and roundabouts, pushing Benedict up by putting down his peers without true considerations is not good argument.
In five years, when Hiddleston is 38 who knows what else he has on CV – he turned down a two leads this year, Jojo Myles and Ben Hur and next year he has, lead in a new franchise Skull Island, a big budget TV with Hugh Laurie, which will be very high profile, Richard 11 movie if it can be scheduled in. He is already pencilled in for Thor 3 and Avengers 3.
You are deliberately negative without fact, are you sure you’re not Delorb. How can you say ‘I saw the light,’ is not looking good at the moment? what articles have you been reading? Are you going to say the same about High Rise? is that not looking good.
@’P’ enny Whoa, girl, slow down. To start with, I have no idea who Delorb is. It’s my first time commenting here in ages. And I didnt mean to be rude about Tom at all. I actually like the guy. But apparently you’re so fiercely protective of him that you read too much into my comments. What i was merely saying is that many actors, including Tom, would’ve liked Benedict’s opportunities. I think its something we can all agree on.
But it was never my intention to bring up rivalry shit here because people go overboard with it (being realistic makes you negative or a “hater”) and i seriously lack the energy to argue about something so pointless.
Lydia, I am also curious as to why you think ISTL isn’t looking good. I havent seen anything but positive reports coming from the set. Have you read a reputable “insider” report on it? Please provide links, if so.
I for one am chomping at the bit to see it. I love me some HankenHiddles…
This poor Hiddles that we’re bashing isn’t the same Tom Hiddleston who is up for the Evening Standard Theatre award this Sunday, is it? The one who was in two Oscar nominated films in 2011? The one who has a key role in a mega franchise and was the sole villain in the third highest grossing film of all time, a mega-franchise BC seems to desperately want to be part of? The one who was nominated for an Oliviet earlier this year? The one who has his own movie franchise? The one who did The Hollow Crown first? The one who has spent the past two years and will spend the next year in some incredibly diverse roles and has avoided being typecast as an emotionally repressed, posh public school boy? The one who seems to be enjoying every second of his life? No, I doubt he would trade places with anyone but thanks for reminding me BC was in 12YAS. He was overshadowed by Paul Dano in all his scenes.
I think Eddie has a stronger filmography than Benedict but has not the TV role which expanded his fan base. Films like my Night with Marilyn and Les Mis were well received and some of his TV roles like Birdman and Tess were excellent. In a shorter space of time he has shown himself to be a well respected actor. I do think he is more about the work at the moment than the fame.
@Penny Tom is building up his career through diversity. I think Loki being his first big American success did not really help and more so than in the UK, actors can become pigeon holed by their first success, He now has several films coming up with quite diverse roles and if the buzz is anything to go by he is pretty good in them
Benny was his own worse enemy re Assange.He should never have gone into the email stuff because in the end it was just pointless and boring. Even now he plays on it in interviews saying how scared he was of Assange and how he stood up to him and it just does wash. It is a bit like the fighting the infidel speech re gay issues. There are organisations like All Out which are actually working towards changing opinions in the countries which prosecute gay people.
I think he needs to find away of promoting his work with out silly remarks about other artists/shows and trying to build himself up into something which really comes over as hot air because he is a good actor just not a genuis
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Lilac FTW! For reminding everyone everyone just how awesome it is to be Tom Hiddleston, I thank you and blow you a kiss!
*bows in humble gratitude*
they both have good careers
this is getting silly
The Spirit Awards nominations were announced today and OLLA was nominated for best screenplay and Tilda, in a role written specifically for her, for Lead Actress.
@Lilacflowers you got there before just be .A complete shut out for the ImItation Game. Maybe some things are beyond awards beyond even Weinstein’s control . Birdman , Boyhood, Selma and Whiplash did well.
Theory of Everything, Budapest, Turner and Foxcatcher were ineligible but Imitation game was eligible.
All hail Queen Tilda!
Yay for Tilda! The woman is a goddess. And OLLA was possibly my favourite film of this year – absolutely loved it (haven’t seen some of the other contenders yet though).
I do feel the need to interject here, while we’re on the “poor Tom” trip — even granting that the Donmar is tiny, he did sell out the entire run of Coriolanus in something like 12 minutes. Ticket buyers crashed the ATG system.
@Lydia M. Promoting the actor you favor does not require bringing out other actors and bashing their work. I can’t be as sure as you are in terms of Hiddles’ willingness to switching career with someone else because I never read about such things and I didn’t have the chance to ask him in person. Probably, the one thing Hiddles would kill to get is Olivier Best Actor Award, which BC once won.
Instead of overanalysing filmography and making a counter-bashing of BC and his work, I’d like to list two facts as of today, per Rotten Tomatoes, 1) ALL of Hiddles’ films are fresh 2) those films amassed over $1 bn box office.
And Tommy boy is never POOR!
Tom won’t give his fingernail for Ben’s career. Ben gets offers of genius oddball intellectual character, more genius oddball intellectual character and then another genius oddball intellectual character. What’s fun in that? Tom likes to take different things that keep him on his toes, roles that he hasn’t done before. This year he made 3 movies, all main roles, big budget and small. He already experienced mega success by turning Loki into an iconic Marvel character. He takes his chance in creating his own path. If he ever wish to have someone else’s career, which I doubted, and let’s just say if he does, he will aim much higher than Cumberbatch, even Fassbender or Hardy’s careers are better than Cumberbatch in terms of variety in their filmographies and success of getting acclaimed. 12YAS is a Ejiofor/Fassbender/Lupita movie, let’s not kid ourselves.
jude law.. really. he should learn from others’ mistakes
Jude Law? I’ve got two words that should have BC rocking back and forth in a fetal position: Ioan Gruffudd.
@Lydia M RE “I Saw The Light didnt even come out yet but its not looking good at the moment.” I am interested in where you have picked up reports re I Saw the Light not looking good,Could you provide links to any reports you have read confirming this.
@FW Tom has not only had key roles in three Marvel films but it looks as if he will be making significant appearances in three more. Not bad for someone’s fist appearance in a major international film. He did not just appear as the villain in Thor 1 he took Marvel by storm and exceeded their expectations.
@Totally biased and ATG is one of the biggest ticket agencies in London.
Yawns…
I don’t know why but I just can’t seem to shake the feeling that he is gay.
He was in a 12 year relationship with a woman before anybody knew who he was. 90 percent of the posters on DL think he is straight. He is sooooo not gay.
I will buy that part of it may be that he plays a gay man in TIG, and he has been without a visible partner for a while….
Not an argument for or against in his particular case, but…
According to this logic, every gay person must come out as early as possible in a clear cut narrowly defined path. They never deal with confusion, guilt, or trying to live a “normal” life for the sake of their parents or even themselves. So they never get involved with straight people at any point in their life. Never ever.
On that note, bi people don’t even exist in this framework.
As for BC, he’s played gay and seemingly gay ambiguous characters before. It’s not TIG in particular or even the lack of a gf before now. That reeks of a pr point of view.
Definitely not.
Trotting out a fiancee for awards season, so obvious. He won’t win.
I don’t understand why he can’t just stop at the mid-sentence. Why does he have to turn everything into passive aggressive bitchiness? I am a book reader too but never have I felt the need to lecture my friends who are not into books or not as into books about how it’s most nourishing thing you can do. If I think they might be interested about the book I am currently reading, I will tell them. If not, there are plenty of other things to talk about. I wonder if he hears himself sometimes really. That pedantic attitude is precisely why people find book lovers annoying. Or have I forgotten the memo that’s how he rolls these days – my mistake. You read, good for you, well done! Now stop patronising.
I know. Personally I enjoy both it depends on my mood. Sometimes if I really need to switch off, I find mindless telly good to help with that rather than try to delve into a book which requires my focus.
But given that he does a fair bit of telly, and it’s essentially what broke him into more mainstream stuff (deny it all you like Benedict but Sherlock is what made you a bigger name) he sounds a bit odd, not sure if he intended it to come across that way.
Genuine question here:
Why is everyone so convinced that their engagement is fake and that he couldn’t possibly be really in love with her?
I saw some comments about him “finding someone better suited”, “calling it off”, “she looks like his sister”…what is that all about? I can’t find the energy to read threads with 600+ comments so can anyone explain this?
My advice would be for you to just let it go. If you don’t feel the same way, that is all well and good. We are all different and have different opinions. If you were at all invested in the question, you’d be combing the 600+-comment threads. There’s no reason to put yourself through that, and there’s no easy way to summarize the various theories (I mean, if someone else feels like doing it, great, though).
Me, I think if they were dating, it was very casually and the engagement timing is PR for awards season. It may stick, it may not.
He’s acting and sounding more like a bellend as the weeks progress so the PR is having the opposite effect on me but I’m not the target market. They’re aiming to sell him to folks who didn’t know who he was previously.
Thank you! I am not really invested in this issue one way or another but it really spiked my curiosity. He does sound a bit too robotic but I thought it might be just his personality – some people are more guarded and when they try to convey genuine feelings it might come across as forced. But who knows. I think that in Hollywood nobody is really above the PR game and hustle.
But his constant coverage in all the magazines world has to offer has become a bit tedious.
Leave Benny at home and bring me Sherlock again! (Seriously, can’t wait for the next season!!!)
@anny: did you see this?
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2014-11-25/the-sherlock-special-reveal—what-does-it-mean
Awwww! Thank you, thank you, thank you! This made me so excited! Can’t wait for new Sherlock. If it were up to me, Benedict would not participate in all this engagement and Oscars nonsense and just make a new Sherlock show for every day of the year.
Me too, Anny. I need to forget this bad Cumberdream.
He really should just stick to playing Sherlock. He’s too thirsty for Hollywood and I haven’t got a high tolerance for idiocy.
Otter, I implore you… stahp. You trying to get me to like her is making me distance myself from you! And a girl like me is who keeps you working. For now I still like you. I dont give a lick about her, so stop being so tryhard, yeah?
Should clarify the working comment. I like him enough to actively seek out his performances and pay to see them, like buying all of the Sherlocks, And planning to see “Penglings” of Madagascar on Thanksgiving, and find a time to see TIG. If he starts pissing off enough of the type of fan I am, who’s going to pay the bills?
@ellesbelles TWILTWIPT will, dontcha know, because he’s already said her support is the only support he really needs!
Oh Ben…
BTW, I too am still going to see Penguins and TIG, I’m even finally seeing Frankenstein this weekend, but reality is, he continues being a douche post-March, that interest will eventually ebb and the only support he will get will be the crazies he’s trying to shake off now.
I have already seen TIG and Pengwengs, but free preview screenings. This was perfect for me because I still have enough interest to see his work but pissed off enough not to pay LOL. Honestly if things had not worked out that way I probably would have bought a ticket to a different movie and snuck in to his.
I don’t know what the real story is not do I care now he is a good actor but I am sooo over him my husband went to see TIG and I decided to clean the house instead of going and I am a huge movie goer. If he is happy great but HE has opened the can of worms by talking about it if he would have made a little statement and then let it go it would have been better but no every show and yes they ask but he could have made some remark to say thanks but I will not elaborate any further if you don’t mind. Also his lack of affection maybe it’s because he’s English with that stuff upper lip sort of mind set although my husband was a bit more enthusiastic early on. Not saying all English but some. I think I will give this space a holiday break will revisit in 2015😁
When has BC ever played Stephen Hawking? #allbritslookalike
Back in 2004. The film was on YT last time I checked.
its on youtube. I found it to be underwhelming in its pace, but he’s pretty good, and also oddly beautiful in that film
From Sue Vertue:
This is what we’ve been doing today! Later on a pic of Sherlock and John as they’ll appear in the Special #221back
https://twitter.com/suevertue/status/537253723022852096
“as they’ll appear in the Special” ?????? Is this a flashback episode? No BC/MF?
Probably shots of them in costume from wardrobe fittings.
dang it, Sue has gone and gotten me all atwitterpatted again. I’ll be keeping an eye out
Not Kidding? Ummm… I don’t know what to think…
Sue Vertue: Sherlock & Watson
https://twitter.com/suevertue/status/537286566214107136
Why is Benedict missing half his shoulder behind Martin…?
Its for the Christmas 2015 special right?
Maybe they’re doing a completely out of time, one-off set in the actual time of ACD’s novels? So series 4 will run straight from the end of 3.
Or maybe they’re really just taking the total p*ss and laughing at everyone losing their sh*t over this picture.
Or it’s a dream sequence….Oh lord.
Sherlock without his curls? I don’t know how I feel about this LOL
love. Though I do agree that sherlock sans curls is a bit odd. Granted its not time for filming just yet.
Dream sequence…oh god no.
No.
Uhm… looks more like an episode of some Doctor Who Timelord adventure… or is that crabby Christopher Tietjens? Prepare for the ultimate fanwank Christmas special – “SuperWhoLock Parade’s It’s-Surely-The-End.”
Lol @ Beth. You sound like a Private Eye headline.
kaiser found it patronizing too .. that’s telling
I think everyone is overanalyzing his every word. It’s his job to do interviews and sell his movie, after all. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be to watch every word you utter when you have constant interviews.
I do think the media has been oversaturated with Cumberbatch of late, but that’s the way Harvey Weinstein likes it.
I think Benedict and Sophie are a cute couple, and hope they are very happy privately.
I agree that there’s some overanalyzing and some “can’t see the forest for the trees” happening. But in these case, it’s actually the forest that looks much, much worse than the trees.
Exactly, he has a movie to sell, so why is he doing interviews about his fiancée? He could do a “we’re very happy, looking forward to the future” and leave it at that instead we get all this weird “I’m so awesome and she thinks so too” stuff while he refuses to actually use her bloody name or say anything actually about her. It’s all in relation to him.
He’s gone from wanting privacy in his personal life to openly discussing her in People magazine. How is this not odd?
Well of course all the interviewers are asking about the fiancee, that’s the main thing the fans want to know about. Case and point is how much it’s discussed and argued about here on CB. I don’t think he’s intentionally being arrogant about her, just trying to answer questions about her without giving too much detail: maybe she doesn’t even want him to talk so much about her? Who knows? None of us, unless we know them personally, know for sure.
He’s has movies to sell before, he’s never sat down with People Magazine and pimped out his personal life like this, (seriously the baby hinting was pure baiting). Yes they and we are asking because HE put it in the paper 2 days before a press tour and Oscar campaign. There are a million better ways to speak about her and it (I gave an example above and here’s one from Keira, beaming with pride while still not going into detail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIObKrgbuhk)
He’s choosing all the wrong ones. He started off grumpy and visibly tensed on red carpets when asked about it and now he’s got word vomit and talks about her as if she’s some sort of entity he’s detached from. Seriously, her name is out there so referring to her as “the woman I love who I proposed to” looks ridiculous.
He referred to Olivia and Anna by their names even after they split.
The interviewers wouldn’t be asking about his fiancee if he hadn’t put his engagement announcement in the newspapers two days before a major US press tour. The tour is supposed to be about the movie, not his fiancee. He turned a group effort into his own show.
Deb, I’m presuming you’re familiar with the guy? This being the case, you’ve surely got to think he’s behaving..unusually? He’s always been so private.
I will never understand the insane, loonie appeal for this man. His face reminds me of a candle. Why do people get so worked up over him? Please, I feel like I am missing something. This is the first time I’ve even commented on a Benedict article in probably a year.
His voice and mainly his interviews prior to engagement mania. He has a deep baritone, sensual voice. Basically a lot of women imagine him talking dirty to them in bed with that voice. I’m off of him now though, his attitude stinks currently.
but I’ve heard his voice…and still don’t understand. Oh well, to each their own.
Please, watch the first 20 min of Sherlock and report back 🙂
I have watched 20mins of Sherlock and do not get it. I like the series because of its wit and innovative concept in bringing Sherlock to a newer audience. The acting is good and the first two series were brilliantly scripted. I just do not find either him or Watson particularly attractive. I have friends that adore them both and empathise with them even if I cannot feel it.
hv u tried that Jaguar ad? lv how he talked about driving that car ; )
Question for you wonderful peoplpeople.
There’s a tweet appeared on Tumblr. Saying BC and SH drove yo the Isle of Wight at the weekend.Added on bits say this guy served them and they looked so in love.
Anyone seen the original? Because it seems right up Senyorita’s alley to me!
I saw that. 100% BS. Senyorita or PR.
There was two weird accounts; alleged tweet (where’s the original?) and friend of a friend.Yeah right…
that’s the ans to the “where is she” questions we were asking ourselves in the different threads. Boy “constant vigilance”
did not sue vertue just tweet a pic of the sherlock read through happening on 22-11 i.e. this weeknd?
it is senyorita. with a new account. same email id used probably. coz when u type senyorita’s name that account pops up and senyorita is nowhere to be found. haha they’re monitoring us closely. we said senyorita is on HW ‘s payroll and BAM senyorita vanishes .poof 😀 i wish we could do the same with octopussy 😀
Good catch, Satanic one! Excellent sleuthing. Still thinking the account is someone trying to wind the fans up but the probability it’s some PR shill helping out with these fake/failed/staged pap shots and sightings has increased for me. Interesting times indeed…
The tweets I saw had no mention of SH at all, in love or not. But I guarantee it’ll pop up in Kneepads in a few days that they were papped going to a “romantic weekend” and “possibly checking out wedding venues”. No credible sightings of her with him but a mystery post from apparently senyorita? P-to-the-mother-effin’-R.
MissMary (waving and blowing kisses)
I’m sitting writing a timeline here (saddo that I am) trying to figure these tweets out.
When were the Isle of Wight tweets? (sidebar- not a place snotty knockers would get hitched on)
When were the Winchester ones?
Was the waiter from the Isle of Wight to?
And read through was today?
Sorry I’m a pain in the arse xxx
Nah, you’re not a PITA, lol! The tweets are linked above I think but Winchester filming info is on some of the Hollow Crown filming blogs. Waiter was on Isle of Wight it seems. Read through was today, at least according to Amanda Abbington’s tweet.
OMG hv u all seen that pic of Sherlock and John??
WTF, BBC? Your entire premise was to modernize the Sherlock Holmes stories. What is this Victorian England shiz? (This better not be a dream sequence either).
I’m hoping it’s Moffat pulling our legs. Or maybe a fancy dress party.
Ohh…according to SoGo, Benophie were spotted having lunch with his parents and another weekend getaway at the Isle of Wright. Do I sense wedding plans in the works?? It seems like any sighting of the happy couple will only increase speculation of them scouting for Wedding Location, and what could be better that an island in the middle of nowhere. Seems he really wants that “private” wedding. I hope Sophie gets an invite!!
one tweet said he was with family i.e. parents and another said he ws with her. posted the link upthread. take with a doze of salt
I didn’t see any saying he was with her, just people asking the posters if she was. Did I miss one?
Hahahaha. ‘An island in the middle of nowhere’ ..
I take it you’re not familiar with the Isle of Wight?
hahaha…you’re right soothy! Not familiar with places in europe. But I think its very likely that they’ll chose a wedding location outside of london…and of course Wanda’s gotta have her say in all things wedding planning!!
Where are these tweets?
posted upthread
@Lucifer.
I do not see the Tweets/Links.
Jason Garber Tweeted this:
“Benedict Cumberbatch on the ferry?
Looking for a place to marry?
Awesome”
Huh? God this sh-t is so ridiculous now. I can’t stand anymore of it. I’m just aghast.
He’s the new George clooney!
I have successfully skipped over the last what, 3 or 5 Cumberbatch threads? Feels so good, almost like quitting smoking (pot) and makes zero difference because no matter which thread you open, it’s ALL THE SAME 😀 I got tired of this drama 1.5 weeks after it started, and am happily back to my music fandoms while sipping sake and waiting for news from Evening Standard theatre awards 😉
I have 5 1/2 days ahead of me full of medical appointments, football games, basketball games, concerts, movies, out-of-town guests, and Thanksgiving but all I can think of is the Evening Standard Awards!
When do you think we’d find out? Through twitter or he just turns up at the award?
I’m going to be the person checking Twitter for Evening Standard updates while attending a concert and then while watching a football game in a bar.
comment should be below but any way here it is– I forgot to say a family member just won best short film at the Cannes short film festival-so I have asked Tom to give him a bit of support by making an appearance in his first full length picture.
I now Tom likes to be supportive because he is appearing in another ensemble picture
“”UNITY is a new film from the writer and director of EARTHLINGS, and features an unprecedented cast of 100 celebrity narrators. It is a documentary about why we can’t seem to get along with each other, even after thousands and thousands of years. UNITY will be released worldwide on April 21, 2015″”
http://unitythemovement.com/store/
Lilac, I can’t say how pleased I am to hear you’ll be checking twitter for London theater award updates whilst watching your beloved Pats in a bar. Drinking Sams or some other local brew, I presume? I would have been disappointed if you had said Finale or some other posh setting. 🙂
It really is isn’t it? I can’t tell the difference between each post anymore.
@Intro Outro high fives
@Lilacflowers high fives as well I have concert rehearsals , a biopsy on my scalp ,cards to write and post across the ocean, osteopathic appointments and mice in my attic well at least I hope that it is just mice when ever I go up to check it. I have started calling my attic the death trap.I think I have enough to keep me amused until the Evening Standard awards are announced.
@Grace it will probably be on twiiter first and then face book and the news.
Can’t wait for their wedding! American Vogue will want to cover it no doubt. They need something to redeem that Kimye disaster. And Sophie is so classy and sophisticated! And Cumberbatch does sound like a boy – a boy who lost his head in love :)) Yeah, like I was never a fan of his but, my God a man in love is just so attractive!!
I really cant with you.
May…or can I call you Senyorita? I feel I know you so well after those tweets!
Anyway my sweet,as I said on another thread.Don’t you go wearing yourself out,it’s only November!…I know HW pays real well but it isn’t worth your health!
Hey may, how much are you getting paid? Or are you still interning for ol’ Harve?
Because seriously love, a man in love DOES NOT look like he’s about to undergo a root canal. I feel sorry for you if you think that a man in love looks like BC- try James McAvoy or Hugh Jackman.
THEY are men deeply in love and adoration with their wives. THAT is love.
I think it’s a troll… it’d have to be. Stirring crap up and trying to get some “crazy fan” reactions to post on other sites.
Aww…. I think she’s fun. She’s like our own Luna Lovegood.
Bless her little heart.
Maybe it’s the chick from New York magazine???
Aren’t you working after hours? You get, what, an extra .50 per post? You go, girl. Make that holiday money.
I think May23 is having us on, and i’m getting a kick out of him/her.
I just want some of whatever it is you are smoking.
I want to apologize to the world. I used the word normalized when talking to people about the weirdness of the PR games and now it seems to be his go to word, even though he doesn’t use it properly. Sorry world.
That’s all I got. There really isn’t anything new here. Just more spin on the engagement. I am more curious as to what will happen next as Eddie is getting married next month. Your move batchy.
Amanda just tweeted from the read-through so the ferry guy is so full of sh-t.. posted the link up-thread.
Lucifer…
Was the read through on Saturday then?
If that’s the case it’s unlikely he’d go to the Isle ofWight…even in Sunday.
I’m assuming he’d be in Winchester from yesterday?
So I just looked at the tweets from the waiters and the ferry guy and none of them mention anything about Sophie. One waiter says that he casually served lunch to BC, the other waiter says he was with “family”, and the other guy saw him on a ferry and wondered if he was out there looking for a place to marry. Not a single mention of Sophie. Am I missing something or are people trying to make more out of this than it really is?
@lucifer – I think there are people who want to make more of it than there really is. I just find it odd that no one mentions Sophie as being sighted when there is no reason not to if she were there.
Not saying she’s not with him, but…
Anyway, yes, some people make more of it than is there *cough* Senyorita*cough* just to get the interest out there. *cough* PR *cough*
No legit mention of Sophie BUT there was a Sherlock read through today and pics were involved so… My money is more on that being legit than any SH sighting in Wight.
If he was there with his family, I hope it was an intervention. Wanda needs to talk some sense into her son.
@Ingrid. We think alike.
I’m confused. The cast from TIG was on Good Morning America this morning, so it was taped?
Nevermind, taped.
Is he trying to convince us or himself? This guy is so confusing, “I want privacy, but let me talk about my impending nuptials and bride-to-be in almost every interview.” I’ve becoming less and less of his fan, not because of his engagement, but his hyprocripsy.
The thing is that I feel like a fool. Been a fan for about a year. I’m a middle aged happily married woman with a senior management job in marketing and PR and I feel tricked. Is this what BCs PR management want? I can’t understand the PR strategy behind all of this. Even if it is true love and a real engagement. I’ve worked with a couple of celebs for sponsorships etc and the absolute key thing in the marketing is honesty. People can smell a fake miles away. Makes me wonder if it is a cultural thing? I’m Swedish…
Or is it the Big Hollywood Game?
Not necessarily trickery. I believe what we’re now seeing are the non-pretty sides of BC. Everyone has different facets to their personalities. And this whole Oscar/engagement/fame thing has not brought up the best of him, instead it puts emphasis on his flaws. Genius he never was, but I thought he was someone with reasonable level of intelligence and self-awareness. It’s just so hard to read the wacky things he seems to be spilling out every day nowadays and still think of him as that dorky, likeable person, who I think it’s still in him somewhere.
@GRACE I hope you’re right.
^^^^ This is not me, the “Original Ingrid”. Could you please use a different name? Thanks.
Yours,
Ingrid from the previous posts
Didn’t she use Ingrid – Sweden. I knew it was a different person.
I think we are seeing Ben caught up in the down side to the Oscar buzz and PR.I do think maybe he has got a little lost in the media focus and is just playing word association in interviews which is not helping him.
hate to break it to you but hollywood is all about trickery. showmances are not rare. they sell you an image, and you buy it. the difference with ben (for me) is that he has revealed to us what his true self is so many times (i.e. a good person), that when the new image is presented to us, it’s very obvious that it’s fake.
People change.
Hopefully, this isn’t permanent because it’s alarming.
He may have more of the ruthless Khan in him than we thought.
Sorry, Ingrid!
Question..
Is every thread on him going to include this woman and are we ever to see anything but these painful premiere pics on here again?
Technically, that’s two questions, but anyway..
I’m with you Soothy, I’ll even take old stock photos over her face. Shes not ugly by any means, shes just basic.
They’re so fake. They look like department store mannequins.
Noooo, Renee, those pictures are of two people deeply, deeply in love.
*gag*
God, I just cant anymore. I’m Cumberbatched out, seriously.
Maybe Benedict was a big fan of the movie ‘Mannequin’ growing up? His dream came true! 😉
And they can build this dream together, standing strong forever…nah. Can’t finish it. Not with a straight face.
I swear every time I see a picture of them I think of Lars and the Real Girl. Can’t help it.
@Scarf Girl, well, Gosling did get SAG & Golden Globe nominations for Lars.
Sophie looks like his hostage in that first photo. These are painful.
Once TIG became part of the HW machine, did it stop being an independent film? I ask because the Independent Spirit Award noms were released and nothing for TIG.
It’s essentially no biggie if it was never considered in the first place
Said it before, I’ll no doubt say it again. Was a sad, sad day when Weinstein got involved. In so many ways.
The only thing TWC is good for is working capital. I’ve read so many stories about Harvey’s creeper ways. Sell your body to the devil and he’ll make you a star :/
I think the problem for TIG in Spirit Awards was the country of origin so it wasn’t eligible. But why it wasn’t nominated in the Foreign Film category is beyond me.
Budget wise it would have been eligible ( I think the cut off is $20m)
Nothing in any category.
Nothing in any category, not even the stiff new fiancee slot? It took a lot to pull that off, somebody got gyped.
According to Variety, it was eligible after all. Dear God, this is not good.
Or is this Spirit Award people’s (who vote for these things? IDK) way to show Harvey they won’t be influenced? The whole Hollywood is tired of that man.
Then again, snubs may also do TIG favors (like Argo).
From Variety:
https://variety.com/2014/film/news/spirit-awards-nominees-the-15-biggest-surprises-1201364706/
“Benedict Cumberbatch, “The Imitation Game” completely shut out
Considered by many to be the frontrunner for Oscar, “The Imitation Game” should have earned nominations in all the top categories, including best feature, actor (Benedict Cumberbatch), supporting actress (Keira Knightley) and screenplay. The Weinstein Company often uses the Spirit Awards as a launchpad for their Oscar hopefuls — see “The Artist,” “Silver Linings Playbook” — but despite being eligible, “The Imitation Game” was completely shut out. If anybody is trying to meet up with Cumberbatch on the day before the Oscars, he’s free now.”
🙁
ouch. From reviews I’ve read its supposed to be very good if slightly lacking accuracy. I’ll still see it because still a cumber-kitten regardless of recent behavior.
I do think he’s a great actor, but back to back snubs is telling between TFE and now TIG is… awkward…
Wowza. That last line about Ben being available the night before was a bit harsh. I haven’t seen it, but I was under the impression that TIG wasn’t a serious contender for Best Picture. I’ve seen some mixed reviews on the film but BC and KK have been praised for their respective performances.
Gonna have to catch Gyllenhaal’s movie… wasn’t on my radar until now.
@MtnRunner -Spirit Awards are held the night before Oscars, hence the comment about him being available. But yeah, it still sounded harsh.
This also means even more aggressive campaigning. I cannot take this sh*t anymore…
Although they seemed to go really indie route this time. I mean Tilda was nominated for OLLA (love that!) and she isn’t even shortlisted in any Oscar prediction lists and definitely not campaigning.
Oh dear, that doesn’t sound too promising…
TIG is good – not great, imo, and I don’t think it has a realistic shot at Best Picture, but I would have expected it to get a nod from some of the smaller awards. BC and KK’s performances stood out from the film itself (which felt a bit safe and middle-of-the-road to me).
I’m tickled pink that Tilda and OLLA were nominated. I loved that movie.
This is definitely NOT a good sign, esp. because Weinstein used it as launchpad before and now they’re not biting. Ouch. The industry ignores movies/actors which people/press initially expect to do well all the time. Just ask Leo DiCaprio…
i would think it’s too brit for the spirit awards, despite american producers. deadline says it probably got shut out because the selection committee didnt feel it should be eligible and i actually agree with that
anyhow, lucky for TIG, the Spirit awards are not a great oscar barometer lol. like 50/50.
i looooooooved nightcrawler.
I’ve been watching from the sideline and I have to say it. Ben doesn’t NEED a Sophie, he needs a reality check in the form of a woman who will challenge him. Yes, I am presumming to know what’s best for someone I have not and will never meet. From Sophie, I get the sense that he has found someone independent yet not too independent. A woman, who will agree with whatever he says and stroke his ego. A woman that checks all the right boxes and won’t make him feel insecure.
Benedict has found what he wants but not what he needs! He needs to be challenged, he needs someone sensible with her feet firmly on the ground. He does need someone independent which I do believe Sophie appears to be. He needs someone much more intelligent then him. He needs someone who is extroverted and funny. He needs someone better than him! But truth be told, he is too insecure.
I expect to receive a lot of backlash for this comment due to my assumption that I can speak to this as if I know him personally. I don’t know him. I have made my assumptions off of the persona he projected pre-engagement. Heck, i am probably projecting a lot on to someone I will never meet.
Benedict will marry Sophie as that’s easiest for him. She’s “safe”.
“He needs someone much more intelligent then him. He needs someone who is extroverted and funny. He needs someone better than him! But truth be told, he is too insecure.”
I think you have just described Olivia…
Or Loo Brealey.
Or me. 🙂
me LOL
@Anon Hi, I’m new here and I agree +1000 to what you said. I’ve tried to read the other posts (and WOW for the amount of comments on a celebrity engagement btw). My first thought was those posts from V.L.719. I’m indifferent to that kind of stuff, but whoever that young lady is that she was talking about could be a good match for Benedict.
What do you guys think?
No you are saying everything I’ve thought about him long before this posh snobby twa* showed up on the scene. Not sure he’ll marry her though. Remember “the love in my life at the moment”
@claire: his comment was a strange comment to make. I believe he will marry her as this engagment (whether fake or real) has gotten A LOT of coverage throughtout the English speaking World (not sure of other places). If his engagement doesn’t lead to marriage that would a huge of embarassment.
@kazlock: Not on Harvey’s payroll but would love to be, I have student loans that need to be paid. Longtime lurker, first time poster.
Why on earth would a ‘huge embarrassment’ ensue if he didn’t marry? Who’s to know how long he would choose to be engaged anyway? The world at large has barely noticed that he’s engaged, despite all the saturation in the media, nobody actually cares. So when and if he marries, nobody will be keeping tabs.
Even fans on here have no idea on his personal life and his reasons and feelings so if he does or does not marry, it’s nobody’s business or guess as to why. He won’t have any reason to be embarrassed, no matter what he chooses to do.
After all the hoopla he has caused – the announcement in the Times, the interviews during the US tour and all the crap in People and Hello – you don’t think he would not marry her? He would be the laughing stock of the entertainment world and be exposed as a fraud. Ben, PRIVATE Ben, actually gave an interview to Hello magazine. This was predicted last week but I am still surprised.
I do leave room for MissMary’s vision that they will “drift apart” and move on to other people, especially if he isn’t nominated or win, but I think he is in way too deep to easily extricate himself from this mess. Too much has gone on whether he intended it to or not.
@moodgirl, you seem very sure the hello interview and all the other prostituting (for lack of a better word) is because he is or thinks he’s in love and not for PR and career advancement. You don’t find it suspicious he’s been very private of his love life and suddenly did a 180? You think he’s genuine? I still don’t get your logic that bc he’s done all this showboating he can’t change his mind or back down in any way. This isn’t a night at the opera but a legally binding contract to another person.
@moodgirl
You’re being a tad overdramatic there. He wouldn’t be the laughing stock of anywhere. Nobody is paying much attention outside of places like this and aside from seeing it in the paper, will never think of it again. If he didn’t marry her, nobody would likely even notice. The rest of the world isn’t keeping tabs on him. I think people lost perspective when they spend a lot of time on messageboards like this. This place is an insignificant drop in the ocean.
Keep in mind other showmances got big talk, too. And it makes a great narrative to have a break up.
Also he’s a man. It’s only “embarrassing” and “laughing stock” when a woman breaks off the engagement a la Jennifer Aniston and Taylor Swift.
@Moodgirl. Looooong engagement, busy lives, drift apart. Voila! Lot less expensive if it’s not made legal. You know she’d want a big settlement as she appears to be one of those “ladies who lunch”.
The engagement has been featured on every entertainment show, major newspaper and entertainment magazine in the US. It even showed up in my hometown newspaper and I live on a very small town. How can you say no one would notice? I think he will have a hard time living this down if it doesn’t go through. I don’t think he has the balls to eat it.
@Felice – Even I don’t believe Jen Aniston’s bf is going to marry her.
Yeah idk if Jen and Justin ever will but they will probably stay together.
But if he and Sophie break it off they will probably be like “Oh he’s not ready god bless.” Someone thought that the “leading lady” thing in Hello implied that she’ll be in Hamlet but I doubt it. It was probably meant to be a zinger.
people have broken much more longer and famous engagemnets. miley cyrus nd liam hemsworth anyone?
I’m noticing a slight change in tone over the past couple days. Not sure if it’s the new posters or not, but are people back to thinking this relationship (assuming it’s not a sham or partly one) is going to last and they’ll walk down the aisle??
Claire
Thought the same thing myself.
Harvey must have some new recruits…..
@Claire Personally I’m firmly on the fence (it’s getting mighty uncomfortable up here, though!) It still doesn’t feel at all authentic to me, but stranger things have happened, so who knows…?
I think maybe some of the doubters were half expecting the whole thing to have imploded by now, or for BC (or someone close to him) to have dropped a massive hint that none of this is real. But the extent to which he now seems to be running with it – endless gushing in interviews, fan-baiting, stoking pregnancy rumours – is so at odds with everything he’s said before that I think people have been a bit knocked for six.
The grumpy, dead-eyed version of BC that we saw last week fitted easily into a narrative of ‘Oh, poor Ben, it’s all PR; HW is forcing him to do it and his heart’s not in it’. Now, though, with all the unnecessary gushing and so on, it feels a bit more as if he’s orchestrating at least some of it himself.
(To sum up: I have no f***ing clue!)
i wouldn’t call it ‘gushing’ at all. he still can’t say her name, and it’s vague, distancing references to someone who he is supposedly head over heels for. the constant mentions of the engagement are exactly why this smells like PR.
also just so people realize, the quotes coming out now were actually from the media blitz of last week. they are just repackaged to appear current. so he was in fact the same dead-eyed ben when he said these things.
@blended You’re absolutely right – I don’t mean gushing; that would imply him saying nice, complimentary things about SH that didn’t relate to himself, which patently didn’t happen. Perhaps ‘spouting’ would be more appropriate? Or ‘babbling’? Whatever it was, it was weird.
Agree that it still doesn’t add up, but I’m almost past caring at this point. Almost…
dead-eyed Ben 👀
*perches on fence with Floribunda*
I’m still sticking to my own theory: this is a very self-involved man who has put a woman on a pedestal and impulsively proposed. He’s stubbornly determined to be married off and is doing everything he can to convince others, and himself, that this is what he wants. The PR bonus he’s getting from it doesn’t bother him as much as he claims it does.
My bet is that she’s too stressed out by all the attention, that the fans are too intense, and they have to break it off.
My bet is she will marry him because she has nothing better to do.
LOL moodgirl. mean 😀
I think it’s more there’s discussion of his comments about marriage and a handful of new posters who are pro-this not being PR… I still smell b.s. but if they did marry, there’s nothing in the world that could convince me it still wasn’t a PR move on his part.
I still think it’s not love, just settling together with PR…but what do I care? His life,his problems… For someone who claims to be really really really happy, he sounds really miserable and try too-hard…
actually apart from new posters we the old posters are getting seriously disgusted by the constant verbal diarrhea benedict is having. We no longer recognize this patronizing, egoistical,megalomaniac twa*. so we are wondering about the wedding. Coz we know nothing about this new BC
I’m getting the impression people don’t care whether the engagement leads to marriage or not.
@Anony You would be right. Everyone seems to caught up in the polarity the situation causes. As far as I’m concerned, along with my friends, BC already has someone better suited for him and he needs to let fate take its appropriate course.
@V.L.719
Even though we are seeing two different people for him, one thing is for sure… he’s meant to be with someone else. We both agree on that.
But I am curious to your opinion… do you see him and Sophie actually getting married?
My feeling is no… but he does have free will. Not 100% positive on what he’s going to do. What do you think?
PS – And if you do want to exchange email addresses… I’m sure we can find a way to do so and compare notes.
@GeeMoney Hello again. If that’s what your intuition is telling you, then that’s your answer. Whether I say yes or no doesn’t really matter. What matters is all of us letting things take its appropriate course. After watching his 92Y interview, he only reconfirmed my thoughts on him and Ms. Writer (i.e. Ms. Hood). Yes, what I posted last time wasn’t much considering she’s still a student, like me, but she will come into her own in due time.
@V.L.719
Here’s why I doubt that it’s her. You and the other psychic agreed on her “twin soul/flame” energy being active. But you said that this girl you have in mind is not ready yet.
I believe that it’s someone else’s energy you may be picking up on. Energy that is already very active, and moving her into place as we speak. Could it be possible that you are picking up on her and not the person you are thinking of?
@GeeMoney I don’t want to bring up that person because that’s not meant to go anywhere either. They may last longer than five months, but like that other commenter was telling that person that “Twin Flame” term is what made my “New Age” poser-meter go off. People who are too much alike crash and burn, but my thoughts are that she’s insufficient with emotional support for him. And he strikes me as the type who would pick up on that quickly when he really likes someone. Sorry, but I think that person was reading our earlier posts to each other and she spun her own narrative out of it. People like me coming forward will cause that to happen. But if you are picking up on someone’s active energy, rest assure, it’s someone who isn’t meant for him. Women who come on too strong, especially in the spiritual sense, push people away. Depending on what tools you’re using to come to this conclusion will tell you that’s what’s really happening.
If you are picking up on an earth sign, it’s probably that you’re picking up on her subconscious energy, with her moon sign being an Earth sign. She’s not ready yet for him not because she’s young, but she doesn’t have an established career yet. I have faith in this girl and Benedict being brought together. I understand if want to see him with someone closer to his age, but think of what the young lady I’m referring to could bring to his world. He needs a fresh perspective on love, life, spirituality, among other things, and having someone who can bring that “new-ness” to him will bring him back to his old self.
But tell me what else makes you doubtful about her. I’m more so curious than anything.
@V.L.719
It’s hard to disagree with you. It’s not her.
My biggest issue is that you aren’t reading over the things he wants in a mate. And he’s ready to settle down now. Not 2-3 years from now when “she’s ready”. The man is looking for his soul mate or possibly his twin soul. It’s written all over him. And he wants it now. Why else do you think he would he push to marry Sophie in such a manner?
Think about it.
I’m not being rude, but perhaps you two should swap email addresses like you suggested?
@V.L.719
And I’m just lastly going to say this. Not trying to be mean or argue.
All of my info comes from up above. Not an astrology chart. They are not always accurate. I only use them as reference guides for personality traits. They are difficult to use as predictors, b/c they don’t take into account free will or life plans that we may be predestined for.
That’s why I told you to go with your psychic ability. All messages from up above are accurate. One can never go wrong with what their intuition tells them. Mine is never wrong. And that’s a fact.
Finally, don’t discount what he says and his behavior from the past or present. It is a telling factor to who he is, and what he truly wants.
And it ain’t no 25 year old student.
@Soothy
Sorry about the back and forth. I was just intrigued by V.L.’s forecast.
@V.L.719
Earth sign. Fire ascendent. And a fire moon.
@GeeMoney I don’t mind the disagreement. But here’s my additional two cents:
-He’s forcing the pace because there’s some ego matters he isn’t addressing properly and/or can’t because of how his life is. Who he is around/associates with, where he lives, it all plays a part in the grand makeup of how his transition is going to unfold. He’s meant to expand and as it is now, he’s taking the wrong kind of control on his life. If he would let it be and enjoy this time, then he would be able to attract who I’m talking about a lot easier. If he goes down the path with SH or this woman you claim is better suited for him, that will create more detours for him and cause more road blocks for who I have in mind. It’s his ego confusing “needs” and “wants”. He needs a woman who can tell him the straight up difference and I don’t think any available woman in his immediate circle who’s centered enough to know the true difference. Same with a “gamble” and a “risk”, except Benedict takes more “gambles” than “risks”. The fact that this is happening probably is adding more time and distance between them making this more difficult.
-Second, even though he may act and speak about certain things, I believe sometimes he wants either the opposite or a hybrid of past women, from how I’ve read his behavior. People say anything and he’s no exception. Again, remember that he confuses needs and wants. Look at the women we’ve all brought up: Keira, Lupita, Katia, Lydia Hearst, Anna, Olivia, etc, that shows me more of who he really wants more than what he said/keeps saying. The latter ones indicate he wants someone who’s ready to be committed (whether it lasts a year or over a decade), Katia and Lydia: he wants someone young, fun, and fertile enough to get the children, the former are the most telling: He needs a woman who make him smile and glow as a friend, someone who has his back and can give him that emotional support he needs so much. The way he was really all smiles with Lupita and her brother, which he didn’t appear to be with other women, demonstrated to me that he unconsciously prefers all types of women, not just blondes or brunettes. He might have developed more of a preference within the past year or so for all we know. All of that is to say, the love of his life he wants and needs is a a young, cultured person who can balance him out. He clearly likes what’s foreign to him and since the English have somewhat of a American Indian fascination (I’m an anthropology major/english lit minor and I know what I’m talking about from my study abroad trips and teachers who travel to Europe), he’ll be more than intrigued with the person I found.
-You really shouldn’t count her out just because she’s just a year younger than myself. Not all mid-20s girls are the same. While other girls go around chatting about “filler talk”, she speaks with a purpose and can talk about complex ideas in a simplistic form. Not too many understand her and think she’s “odd”, which is why she converses and has friendships with older people, which attracted those older men. She writes on a higher reading level (I’m going to say 10th grade while the avg is 6th) and because she’s very smart and on a road of real enlightenment she’s feeling isolated. She’ll come out of it with a sense of self mastery that’s a solid foundation for the rest of her adult life. Once that’s done in the next few years, and BC restructures his “foundation”, they’ll both have done the work needed to be together.
@GeeMoney Another telling sign with my prediction is that she is going to cater to his ego in a way a woman his age won’t be able to. Not in a side eye way. No. What I mean is that when he develops a healthier ego, she will be able to cater to that positive vibe he’ll have about himself because he’ll be free of the superficiality of the film business. Women his age, unless other wise stated, are just too polarized. And fire signs who are polarized are not good. All that fiery, explosive energy leaning to one side so strongly is a prelude to disaster. And if its a mix of mutable and fixed signs, those conflicting energies are not going to mesh well with Benedict’s as he’s a triple cardinal sign which means that he’s the type to initiate change and who you’re referring to is someone who’s not going to go all that well with this type of nature in the long run.
@V.L.719
But you are describing the person I’m talking about too. Everything you said matches with her personality as well. You don’t know anything about the woman I’m referring to. How would you know that she couldn’t be the person that he needs? You don’t.
I’m not hung up on age. Just that he’s never publicly dated a young girl. He has had plenty opportunity to do so, and still never has.
But he doesn’t NEED a young girl. Just the right person. That’s all that matters. A woman close to his age can give him the same thing a young woman can. Including children.
The woman I’m thinking of is on her way. We’ll let him decide. Maybe he’ll turn her down? He very well could. And perhaps end up with who you are talking about.
Or beyond that… he could end up with someone else completely different. And we both could be wrong. He is the only person who truly knows what’s best for him. Not a couple of psychics on a blog (and yeah, I’m throwing myself under the bus here too).
At the end of the day, it’s his choice. Free will can reign supreme here.
We’ll just have to wait and see what happens.
Error extra post.
I’m quite spiritual, but perhaps think before you post stuff like this. I mean, if you read this stuff as a first time poster/lurker or whatever, you probably would think ‘cuckoo’ and run. Benedict could fall in love with a purple cockatoo next week for all I know, but if it’s all true what you two are saying I need you to give me some dating info soon. But for real, this Sophie thing seems off, but let himself figure this out, don’t discuss his potential soulmates for the entire world to read. He may be a bit in love with himself at the moment, but I just feel for him while reading stuff like that. Please exchange emails or something. No hard feelings, but do consider.
@GeeMoney I think it’s about time you started to share some additional info about the person you found. If I’m correct I have been much more detailed in my posts. What else can you tell me about this person that would be helpful? What’s her ethnicity? Is she in another profession right now while writing on the side? Can you describe the environment she’s living in currently?
It’s actually starting to get fun comparing our findings.
geemoney, as much as i love u but VL719 seems to have nailed it. This seems logical to me. a girl in late twenties with a creative career.
The guy does not know yet what he needs.
I am finding what you and GeeMoney are talking quite fascinating. But I was wondering whether you only are having psychic feelings about BC or whether you can pick up psychic feelings about other people too, like, hiddles, fassy, bradey cooper, etc?
Not to drive the point home but like I said a week ago, this describes me to a tee
@V.L.719
I agree with Parrot. And it’s probably best to stop pretending to “know” who’s best for him and why. I think he can figure that out on his own.
Ha – that too! People are getting bored. And he’s making such an idiot of himself at the moment that he suddenly seems far less attractive (to the saner among us, anyway). Perhaps it’s all part of the grand plan, though…
I can’t imagine that the grand plan would include emphasis on his woman 99% of the time, with barely ANY mention of the movie he is supposed to be talking about. With TIG not receiving even an old turd at the ISA, I wonder if they have realized their mistake?
If we are getting sick of him on this site you can bet that people in Hollywood, who probably figured this out before anyone else, are sick of him as well. It would be unfortunate for BC to throw away an Oscar because he chose to behave like an immature self-centered jerk. Maybe the ISA is his wake up call. I just can’t figure out what the heck he is trying to do.
Whatever he does I just wish he would hurry up. This is worse than having teeth pulled without anesthesia.
@moodgirl I was kidding about the grand plan :-). I genuinely don’t think there is one any more.
I do believe there was a plan but just can’t figure out what it is.
@V.L.719
And I would never publicly put someone’s information out on the Internet and tell the world that I know that they are the future Ms. Cumberbatch. That to me is irresponsible and it violates a person’s privacy. I have my theories, yes. But I don’t know everything.
And neither do you.
@GeeMoney @lucifer Hello, new poster here. It’s been fun watching you all, and @V.L.719 in particular, on the side while this is unfolding.
First, let me say that I would have to agree with you @GeeMoney and @Parrot in that Ms. VL should not have posted such detailed information given the nature of the profession. However, I am willing to look past it only because like she said she’s fairly new to these types of studies. In regards to privacy, yes, showing her work isn’t the best practice for starting out and proving your authenticity as a psychic.
That being said, I am siding with @Lucifer that this VL is the real deal and I think she’s right with her assessments. While she should be a little more respectful in the future, her information makes logical sense. She didn’t seem like she was coming off as a know it all about what Mr. Cumberbatch needs per se, but at least she didn’t come off as someone who just has “theories” while claiming to be “a bit psychic”. There are no in-betweens. Either you are definite and can bring insight on a situation or you are not. People who have theories implies that they only have generalizations fueled by some amount of “polarity” (to quote V.L.719); I consider that to be a very immature way of thinking that they know a situation and/or person. It’s thoughtless behavior. Movie stars have a way of seducing the masses and creating this contradictory connection where they are close to their audience (sharing details about private lives to seem more like us regular people) while staying distant at the same time. I think that’s what causes the fandom to go further than they have to by building up someone in their minds and jumping to assumptions based off of this pap photo or that quote. As my sister once said: “Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see”. I know belief isn’t required for V.L.’s posts, but I side with her and I’m looking forward to what happens next.
How I’ve read her posts, she seemed to be focusing on how they are going to connect on a spiritual level and what they need to overcome first before they can be brought together. Some presumptuous details aside, I wouldn’t disagree for the sake of being contrary, but I would like to hear what other details you have about the person you have in mind @GeeMoney. It seems only fair to share more since V.L.719 shared so much already.
Didn’t mean to be so long, but I just felt the need to jump to V.L.’s defense a bit. lol
You shouldn’t support anyone who puts private information in any shape or form on the Internet. Ever heard of identity theft?!? On another thread, she put that girl’s name, birth place, birth date and blog out on line. You people are ridiculous.
And I’m not interested in contributing to this any longer.
Oh how quickly they turn when a public fave gets a serious girlfriend, fiance or we ife. It’s always makes for an interesting read through the comments.
How quickly they turn when they smell bs.
Yeah, sure. People are sideeying because their ‘fave’ has a fiancée.
Christ.
What’s putting people off is his recent behavior. He recently did a Q&A for Penguins. He was answering fan questions. One of those questions:
If you were a pizza what kind of toppings would you have? – starthistle
Benedict – Broken glass, barbed wire, and a little bit of grit
This was to promote a children’s movie, the questions may have been posed and read by small children. This is the WTF-ery that has people talking.
As far as I’m concerned, if she still wants him after Oscar season, she can have him.
Several comments. One someone talked about how it seemed like the opinion on the Sham Wow changed. No, the agrevated people have just given up trying to convince everyone else, I think. Two, The Isle of Man tweets. I think they *might* be real. With this proviso, it was a setup and the person was not in on it. They finally got the Fake Pap setup right. A few tweets before the guy talks about not “do these people know they’re lying to each other” and “the most depressing mother/daughter-in-law conversation I’ve ever seen”. But before people start saying, Wow it must be real, remember the EBG(Edinburgh Botanical Gardens) fake pap shots they screwed up and then the France photo op(grainy shots from behind that didn’t surface until a few days ago) gone wrong. Third, a theory was mentioned on tumblr last night and it’s worth mentioning in case it comes up. They may be setting up the fans. Kiera complained about how “scary” the fans were. Sophie is “supposedly” pregnant. What if… she “loses” the baby due to nerves or stress from fears of “crazy” fans? How far would a sympathy vote go? Heath Ledger was wonderful and great actor, but before he died no would thought he would win the Oscar. BTW, I don’t think she IS pregnant and I doubt any relationship that they have. Even if THEY think they have feelings for each other. I have predicted breakups before. Some couples do try pushing things to “the next level” to try and “fix things”. That never works BTW. Just a few thoughts from the front car of the crazy train.
Nobody is saying she’s pregnant. Let’s not get carried away with imaginary scenarios.
There really is no ‘stress or fear from crazy fans’ either. Seriously, people this is just getting very very silly now.
Maybe they ramped up the sightings and baby talk to stay relevant because of ER’s wedding. That will be hard to compete with, considering they have set an actual date.
they hav.christmass wedding with fake snow and christian hymm
boy i need to get a life one of these days.
And it’s the conspiracy train, not the crazy train. 😗
Does it even matter at this point whether this engagement is “real” or “fake”? The fact is that BC has used it for his own PR and it seems to me, for his own self-interest. (“She loves me and is proud of me.”) It seems as though it’s really all about him. And it comes off like it’s kind of a joke. Maybe, it’s not a joke in reality, but when someone uses their private life for this much PR, I can’t help but find it all a bit fake. Especially given how this whole thing happened in the first place. Of course, some people are going to question something that seems disingenuous.
Whatever the nature of their relationship, it lacks any authenticity for me. They probably will get married and have a child. I just really hope BC stops using his private life for PR. I hope, at some point, he finally will decide that his private life is for himself, like he stated months ago. Too bad he didn’t actually listen to himself.
All true. And based on what we know, fake. No getting around it.
Someone said up thread that he will go through with it to save face, as a man being dumped is more humiliating(?)
Hasn’t this guy been dumped by pretty much every woman he has been with?
That’s got to have some kind of lasting effect on a guy, surely. It may also compound his *obvious* insecurities.
Also, common denominator and all that; maybe there is something wrong with him? lol, I feel bad saying it but it does make one wonder…
we know nothing about how his previous relationships ended. everything reported is pure conjecture. he managed to stay in a loving relationship for over a decade, so there’s nothing “wrong with him”. admittedly he’s famous now so he has to be more cautious.
but i know many people who aren’t famous, both male and female, who haven’t found the right person yet. nothing wrong with that. he just needs to be patient.
loving but on and off. they broke up several times during that decade period. Anna and he had prenuptial disagreement according to report. He is not suited with womn f his age IMO. He cnt seem t handle them. Again my opinion is nothing but pure conjecture
again with the conjecture. these ‘reports’ from people on the internet, without any proof whatsoever are not to be taken as fact. they broke up ‘several’ times? how many times exactly? they were young and in my experience, many young couples do this. it’s completely normal.
If he’s here promoting his film, then he’s the only one doing it, because all I see commercial-wise on tv is the movie with Redmayne and that commercial is beginning to wear out its welcome. I’ve pretty much decided not to see it because it keeps bugging me to see it and all its marvelous acting, etc.
“She’s proud of my work, she’s proud of me, and she loves me,’ he said. ‘That’s the bottom line, isn’t it? That’s one of the reasons it’s a good fit.”
So for her part in the relationship: she worships the ground he walks on
And he …..is kind enough to let her do that.
Sounds like a great basis for a relationship to me. Very healthy.
It used to be that I couldn’t wait for the next Sherlock special. Now I’m wondering if the wait will be long enough for me to forget all this nonsense.
*headdesk*
Overheard two guys talking about resumes and applications today. Older guy says to younger guy “Tell the fantastical truth.” I busted out laughing and thought of SH’s CV polishing and all the other nonsense with this.
Ok, we have engagement announced to the London Times; interviews or specials in the WSJ, Time, People, Hello, Vogue…..most of the Muggle publications have been hit. Now it is time for the exclusive given to Rita Hayworth and the Daily Prophet.
Clearly all the earlier protests that the enGAGment is private was code for “saving up for the media sweep.”
Would HW really run something this sloppy and transparent? Beginning to fear it is mostly Karon and BC.
Rita Skeeter….
And I think that BC wanted some control over the situation but failed.
Well Felice that was an epic fail on my part. My excuse: baking rum cakes for Thanksgiving and mighta had a sip too many.
Sweet lord. What. An. Epic. Snark. Fail.
yes HW would be sloppy because he has never had to deal with a fandom like ben’s. we know his past behaviour, his past relationships, what he looks like when he’s in love, etc. We are also very good at detective work lol.
he also thought ben could commit to the fake engagement a bit better, but ben is obviously not comfortable doing that. he has the aura of someone being forced, and so does sophie. i’m guessing HW is more used to people willing to play along.
we r mini sherlocks in our minds 😀
lol.
On a completely different note, how does everyone think the cast of TIG feel about Benedict in General? I’ve noticed that everything is about Benedict. Watching full cast interviews makes me uncomfortable as it becomes all about Benedict. Why have cast interviews? If I were a cast member or director, I would be annoyed. I am trying to think of a film where this has happened before.
This isn’t meant to be malicious. I just watched the q&a for the movie held last week. I also recall the q&a from Tiff and a cast interview from Tiff where most questions were directed at Benedict and Benedict did a lot of talking if the former wasn’t the case.
Well, he is the lead actor, so it is understandable that alot of the questions would be directed at him. But I’ve noticed that he dominates every panel interview–SDCC, for example. On one hand, it gives the project more visibility, but it does shut out the other talent. I imagine the other cast members just grin and bear it. Wouldn’t be surprised if they feel a little resentful though. Benedict could be less verbose and defer to his castmates though.
Did he just suggest the word “Cumbersomes” as a replacement for “Cumberb!tches” in that People interview?
Cumbersomes?
CUMBERSOMES?
*facepalm* Ben, just, just shut up, please.
I’m still just stunned that some people don’t seem to think he’s acting any differently. If someone had said this time last year that he would be making these strange OOC statements and telling all to tabloidy mags I’d have laughed in their face.
They don’t want to admit he’s behaving poorly nor acknowledge that non-IMDBers were correct in calling him out.
My guess is they’re explaining it all away as him giving up smoking. Which conveniently popped up after people starting commenting on his cranky demeanor and odd behaviour for a newly engaged Benedict in contrast to his previous attitude when he was happy. It doesn’t explain how when he’s with Keira and the cast, he’s happy, laughing and joking. When she was beside him he was like a statue.
I lived with a smoker giving up, yes it’s crap but, he still managed to act like a human being, deal with stress in work and at home and not look at me like I was invisible when I was beside him.
Yeah, I don’t buy that as an excuse. An actor promoting an important movie isn’t going to get the grumps because he’s desperate for a ciggy. And it also doesn’t explain the weird quotes he’s handing out to these publications about her. It’s just not him at all.
Plus, he didn’t have to say he’d given up at all and he could have started back up if he was struggling that much it was affecting his promo work, and no one would have known.
Nope, it was damage control.
It’s not like he had to give up cold turkey. He could use the patches or gum or those electronic things. If he was really having that much of a problem that his crankiness was noticeably effecting his career I think he’d have started looking into his options treatment-wise.
So no I’m not buying it either. Especially as the quitting smoking thing was I believe floated as an idea a while ago and we all know how his people like to monitor social media.
GIving up smoking makes you testy, it doesn’t cause stupid, nonsensical shit to come pouring out of your mouth at a seemingly unstoppable pace. Whomever is advising him now should be fired, because he really needs to just stop talking.
in people magazine he says he’s gonna take a holiday. More fan bait to keep the speculation going on if he is going with octopussy or not. Folks get ready for more sightings and pap shots. whatever this is real or fake the guy is tottaly milking it in his own benefit. Kumberdarshian . do u guys have a better name?
Well I do think he needs to take a holiday and chill the feck out.
Go find your smile Benedict, and maybe act like a human being with your fiancee next time you’re at an event. It’s ok, pretend she’s Keira if you have to.
That’s really sad if he has to picture her as someone else in order to fake a smile. 🙁 But yeah he definitely needs to re-group and get his perspective back.
or get the hell out of the fiancee altogether
Lucifer what makes you think he’s ever been in her? Well, except for that once which I am sure has resulted in a surprise pregancy….
ohhey. That came out wrong i meant away from her. But I appreciate ur pun. I ws also in the preggo train but its hard for me to picturize thse two hving sex..so…donno
he is a BIG OLD ARSE so yeah I think the name fits
“Benedict Cumberbatch: Sophie is ‘proud of me & she loves me’” sounds like a statement from a guy who in doubt about the love from his significant other. no doubt on my part. i think he is a lousy actor and a just a barely average person. Although most of the entertainment, music and film biz has really gone downhill in quality in the past 10 or so years. all of society is in decay and im not talking about just moral decay, but downhill in: human intelligence, wealth disparity, infrastructure falling apart, stupid reality and talk shows, killer cops, US imperialisms 21st century wars to control resources and millions of innocents die, etectera ad infinitum.
tbh he is that kind of guy who was always totally devoted to his work but now wants to have family life as well. he would settle for any woman with fertile ovaries and uterus who would “support his work” but also take care of the kids, smile shyly on the red carpet and do not talk too much back.