Ha, I bet you thought we could go one day without a Benedict Cumberbatch post. YOU WERE WRONG!! In my defense, today isn’t a crazy-busy gossip day and for the past month, whenever there’s a gossip lull, I do check out the Cumbernews to see if there’s anything worth covering. So let’s get to it! I missed this story yesterday but that didn’t stop dozens of Cumberladies from freaking out about these quotes:
Benedict Cumberbatch will have to work twice as hard to make his 2015 great. “The Imitation Game” star, 38, called his engagement to Sophie Hunter the biggest moment of his year.
“I’ve obviously had the most important news of my life as far as my life goes,” the “Sherlock” actor told The Sun at the British Independent Film Awards. “But that’s also sort of private, I don’t want to talk about that too much, but my engagement to the woman I love is obviously the most important thing of 2014 for me.”
Good lord. I mean, I guess we should stop bitching about it. We complained when he was vague about his feelings for Sophie and now we’re complaining when he gushes about “the woman I love.” I actually do think he’s trying to speak directly to his fans, like he’s saying “Seriously, I love this woman. It’s not just part of an Oscar campaign. I LOVE HER.”
Here’s another story I found… The Batch and the Curious Case of The Cumbergum.
He is hailed as the most suave actor of his generation and is the epitome of gentlemanly sophistication, as exemplified by his engagement announcement last month in the Times. But Benedict Cumberbatch threatened to lose all his kudos after becoming involved in a sticky situation at the Moet British Independent Film Awards on Sunday evening. Faced with a phalanx of television cameras on the red carpet, the actor panicked over how to dispose of a mangled piece of chewing gum he had just removed from his perfectly formed mouth.
‘Oh God, what do I do?’ he moaned as a throng of fans — known collectively as ‘Cumberbitches’ — made a lunge for it.
There was no sign of Benedict’s fiancée Sophie Hunter, who accompanied him to the ceremony, but deserted him in his hour of need. Fortunately one of the event organisers spared Cumberbatch further embarrassment by stepping forward with paper torn from a programme in which he wrapped the offending gum.
All offers of safe removal were then declined as Benedict popped it in his designer trouser pocket — yuk — no doubt depriving eBay of a lucrative sale of the heart-throb’s very own saliva. Such celebrity paraphernalia is not unprecedented on the auction site: in 2004 a piece of Britney Spears’ chewed gum went for £114.
While Benedict managed to discreetly dispose of the gum, etiquette expert Jean Broke-Smith believes he shouldn’t have been chewing it in the first place.
‘I think it’s really bad manners to chew gum,’ she tells me. ‘It’s like a dummy. If you really have to, don’t do it while you’ve got the public eye upon you.’
My guess is that much like President Obama, Benedict probably chews Nicorette to help him with his cigarette cravings. Cumby recently said that he quit smoking this year, so despite some claims that it’s “bad manners,” chewing gum is a way that many former smokers deal with their issues. I’d rather see Benedict chewing Nicorette than smoking! As for his refusal to let the Cumberbitches get their hands on his gum… that’s a wise choice. They could get his DNA from the gum. They could figure out a way to clone him. Then we would have an army of Batches descending upon the land.
And finally, Benedict spoke about his casting as Marvel’s Doctor Strange. Bendy said he was “really excited” about playing Strange and “There’s a lot of work to be done and I’m just at the beginning so I don’t want to talk much about it, but it’s a thrilling gig to get. I just can’t wait. Very excited.” Meanwhile, The Daily Beast has an interesting article about the origin of Doctor Strange and whether or not the character is somewhat racist/culturally appropriating. You can read the piece here.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
”my engagement to the woman I love is obviously the most important thing of 2014 for me.”
As opposed to his engagement to the woman he doesn’t love?
It’s so very “abdicating the throne for the woman I love” – way over the top, Otter, way over. . . .
And timing of engagement announcement has nothing to do with Oscar campaign. Nope. And the opportunity to be pictured in so many magazines as the new “It” couple.
No business/PR component at all. None at all. They kissed today goodbye, pointed themselves toward tomorrow, and they did it all for love.
Let me just repost this here: found the Joaquin Phoenix engagement prank telling and insightful. He was right-single guy not much to talk about but an engagement made a good story on Letterman. I don’t think he is a d-bag. There is a method to his madness and I would love to have him over for a Cards Against Humanity game.
I agree scarf girl. It’s pure loooovee. No PR. C’mon people! It’s so clear. LOOOVEE!!!
And JP might be batsh*t crazy but he owns it.
What did I miss about Joaquin Phoenix?
Moodgirl, A LOT. Maybe a dig to certain engaged Dr. Strange?
“Joaquin Phoenix – not engaged. Says he needed to spice up his “story” a little bit to capture the audience. People do love engagements…”
http://www.justjared.com/2014/12/09/joaquin-phoenix-is-not-actually-engaged-made-up-story-to-capture-the-audiences-attention/
Mood Girl: The Cut and the Hollywood Reporter (I think that is the link in The Cut) story have the best write up. Prank. Letterman. Fake engagement announcement
I think JP was trying to shade Harvey, since its Oscar season!
God, I love that Joaquin is a Truther. Welcome aboard, man. And Lainey said: “This, I guess, is what happens when you make Joaquin Phoenix publicise a movie. And this, totally, is why he could have never been Dr Strange. I mean, right now he’s promoting Inherent Vice, an entirely different beast than what would be required of him when promoting a Marvel movie, can you imagine?”
I love Joaquin. He’s gloriously bitchy and tells it like it is, calling the Oscars “total and utter bullshit”. I am also secretly hoping he was partly throwing shade at BC with his engagement stunt – BC did take the Dr Strange role that Joaquin passed over, and Joaquin was Harvey’s Oscar horse a few years ago and I can’t imagine he’d warm up to Harvey’s antics.
Let your bitch flag fly Joaquin! 🙂
I’m not a huge Phoenix fan but his stunt made me legit laugh so hard and literally say outloud in an almost empty house “I think I love you a little!” lol.
Nevermind, I found the JP/Letterman video with a quote below. Before I’m accused of reading something into it, does anyone think JP is directing mocking this situation or just generally trying to be funny? I think he has mocked the Oscar chasing process in the past. To be honest I think he is openly mocking BC and we are vindicated no matter what BC does.
“I think my life’s so boring, and it seemed like something exciting to talk about, and I wanted the audience to like me,” he admitted. “They really like people getting married.” OUCH.
I think JP is an extraordinary actor (Her was pure magic).
I don’t know if he’s actually crazy or the smartest man in Hollywood. A lot of time he gets his way because he’s unpredictable. Maybe it’s all an act and he’s very much present in this world.
If it’s the latter, that was definitely aimed at BC and Harvey.
I think JP is smarter than folks realize–he’s been in the industry since he was a kid (back when he was known as Leaf Phoenix) and has seen literally everything, good and bad. Is he a bit… off kilter? Probably. He was raised in a a Children of God cult for years and that can mess with you, and was also raised pretty free spirited after his folks left the cult when he was little. All that to say… I think he was definitely throwing some shade, esp if rumors that he was strong competition for Strange are believed, particularly that he was front runner/really was keen for the role.
I think JP was throwing some subtle shade at BC’s campaign engagement. It was a jolly good hoax. Nicely played, Phoenix.
I would think it’s in general; Phoenix passed on the role, so ‘shading’ would be a bit childish, especially considering the mega-PR stunt he pulled himself with ‘I’m Still Here’.
Don’t know if I would have done this again on the same talk show though. Love his acting but have never cared for how unprofessional he is sometimes about regular project promo.
That first picture, with her head tossed back, speaks volumes.
It looks like she swallowed a cucumber!!
Mean I know, but since pr is reading this I’m sure they’ll make the necessary adjustments in time for the next red carpet 🙂
His fiancée has pretty eyes.
He looks like something feral. He looks blind.
You know that JP Engagement would have had more impact if he announced his Fake Engagement in the Times.
….just saying.
Yep. That would been hilarious.😄
Lol yes! That would have been amazing
First! Woohoo! 😁
Damn almost first…
Hahaha…. Thanks for the laugh.
yes! please dispose of your litter, and DNA, responsibly. the internet can’t possibly cope with batches of little cloned Cumberotters.
*hand raises* Um, I might possibly be interested in one of the clones. For, uh, research.
Grand Theft Otter, Kaiser!!! I thought we were in the clear!
They make a lovely couple.
Go get your $10.00 and a thank you from HW.
But they do. I like them. I am glad that personal opinions are now generously paid by HW. So where can I collect my hard earned money since you are such an expert?
They really do. The funniest part about this is he’s not with a woman his fans pictured him to be into. And he’s not displaying his love for his fiance n a way his fans dictate. It’s funny and called out in the article. Fans aren’t happy with any part of this engagement.
I think they look nice together and wish them well. Nothing will matter until post oscars though. Many will still call this a pr stunt.
not that late. mhappy
It’s really private and I don’t like to talk about it… but I JUST LOVE HER SO MUCH.
I didn’t even know who this guy was until i found this website but holy crap he’s annoying. If its so private, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. You’ll never stop the true crazies, so if that’s his reasoning, its moot. I need him to stop.
I misread this & didn’t see the ‘his’ and almost had a heart attack.
Sure. Good for him. Now can 2015 have less Cumby posts??
Haha so did I! “the most important thing of 2014” In what universe I wondered
Same here. I uttered an expletive and my eyes nearly rolled out of my head.
ben Is beautiful. His eyes are sparkly. BUT sophie , she is the best thing that happened to him ever..
So Harvey did hire you? Congratulations! You are doing a fine job. 😀
So do you get $15.00 per comment?
I think Lucifer was drugged with sarcasm, y’all.
ETA: didn’t see the posts below. Silly me, Lucy has totally gone to the other side!
yeah they r NOT paying me 🙁
I see you’ve arrived in purgatory, Lucifer.
it’s worse than hell, isn’t it?
Come on u guys. play along…
and to the weinstein company, i accept paypal too.
Lucifer you have been an absolute joy today.
Her dress is so pretty and her nails r so pretty.. I heard she cured Ebola too.
Her clutch is the right touch of bling in that modestly beautiful outfit
It’s cheese grater chic.
felice play along
p
Nice nasal flash there…
We’re forced to see up her nose with alarming regularity.
BC doesn’t mind, it’s the only hole he gets to peek in.
Cloning The Batch. Great idea. Then we can sell his versions in the black market and all cumberbitches can have their own.
I was worried I would not get my Cumber-snark fix for the day, and Kaiser comes to the rescue!
Oh, and LOL at the first photo. Is SH in need of a chiropractor?
lol I was wondering what she was doing. Very strange position, that.
No more wire hangers!
Bwahahahahaha! THAT is who she reminds me of, expression-wise. IDK about her personality but the faces she’s making, yes.
Thank you. And spot on IMHO on JP. Man has lived through a lot and quite frankly, I speculate that it makes him much less tolerant of Hollywood BS bc he sees how silly it all is in the big picture.
Yes, definitely would have him over for dinner along with Spike Jonze.
Can we start referring to Ben as “Christina”? I’d be on board that train.
Benedict, I love you, but can you PLEASE SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE? Thank you.
+100000
He’s as annoying as Clooney now, in my opinion.
Sorry I don’t really read the Clooney threads. How was he annoying?
Yeah, what? I don’t read them either, but I’ve enjoyed looking at the pictures of him and Amal. They actually look loved up.
It got rather annoying quite quickly. Love her or hate her but shut up about it already. If he wrote a sonnet every single day he talked about his engagement and his love for her we could have had new Shakespeare by Christmas.
Clooney was annoying too – endless gushing, gondola rides, photos…people just got sick of it. But I still like Amal. Never actually cared much for Clooney. And don’t even get me started on “He finally found a woman who is intellectually on his level” mess.
I have to agree. There was a time that I would have loved to just sit and listen to him talk. But lately he has been saying some astonishing things. Not sure jet lag can be blamed for all of them. And Joaquin Phoenix is hilarious.
Doctor Strange is definitely not racist/culturally appropriating, but a missed opportunity for diversity?
Yeah that’s the best way of saying it. He’s white but his ethnicity isn’t a huge factor in his identity so it would’ve been fine. It’s not whitewashing like Khan definitely was.
Yep–my uncle used to smoke, then he started chewing (which is disgusting, because whenever he’d visit, he’d always leave coke cans of spit and chew everywhere AND he obsessively brushed his teeth), and now he chews gum constantly.
The day isn’t complete until BC mentions his engagement, the woman who loves him, his fiancée, the most incredible woman who ever lived.
Also the day isn’t complete without a picture of the happy couple. She might want to stop the neck-craning/hair tossing. It’s distracting from the beauty of their love.
He’s trying to convince himself, don’t disturb his meditation.
My neck hurts just looking at her. They really need to take some lessons in how to act like a couple. I’m sure someone in Hollyweird provides that service.
$1,000 per hour will get her lessons on being an escort, err, I mean a girlfriend.
I do not get the excitement over him and his ordinary looking fiancee.
I’m sure he’s a great actor, but nothing to write home about in the looks department. just a snooze fest…the two of them
is that how u greet ur fiancee after days went unseen. My god that is ridiculous. beyond oDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh12j7uih0I
You can just feel their sexual chemistry. 50 Shades of Grey is mild compared to these two.
ETA: His laugh. Does anyone else get the feeling it’s that laugh when you are really uncomfortable / don’t know what to answer?
Because I do that quite often with people I don’t like or I’m not comfortable with. A little, fast laugh and then drop it just to get away from actually communicating with them.
Sometimes ppl mistake u for someone else and u both laugh at each other that kinda laugh. Some poster in sogo said the last part where they move and she says something he GENUINELY(yes, u read it correctly) laughs
Genuine laughter doesn’t stop that quickly. You laugh, smile and then go to neutral. Not: laughter -> stone face. That’s all I know.
I haven’t seen it yet but apparently there’s a video up on one of the skeptic sites (I want to say SoGo but I may be wrong) where you can see her walking away after the “lovey dovey” pic moment–she’s back to nose in the air and looking bored a.f. Allegedly.
@Lucifer. Apparently he said he hadn’t seen her in a week according to the Fail. That’s how all newly-engaged, happy couples greet one another after a week apart, right?
Well he saw her at ESAs and now at BIFAs. I told you guys, their relationship only exists on the red carpets. Magical.
He was only in LA for a few hours; I wonder where the rest of the time went and if he admitted to this or how they got this idea because it is very telling. I think I read that AJ visited him on the set of Sherlock and she had an actual JOB.
My husband greets me with more enthusiasm when I get back from the grocery store.
YEAH right Renee 😀
where is this that he said he had not seen her for a week? I would love a link if possible!
My neighbor hates my guts but is still friendlier than that.
Link please?
Oh dear…I wish I didn’t see that. She really is a bad actress and he was just soo boring compared to how he greets his friends like Andrew Scott and Redmayne….hmm…is it possible to change preference??
From your lips to God’s ears. 😉
I’m assuming this is inside the venue? They arrived in the same car, I was watching the arrivals outside with my flatmate. Benedict was outside signing for fans for about 10 mins before going in (I tried to comment on yesterday’s thread but it didn’t go through).
are you sure they arrived in the same car? A couple of people who was also there said they arrived separately. Did you see if Karon arrived with them too??
Why do I get the feeling some writer just really wanted to use the word ‘moaned’ in an article about BC? There’s no reason to use that there. Wondered would have worked fine.
He’s so overexposed.
Yep. Any more and we see his underwear.
we already had to see those grey things. did not we? 😉
Can she get her nose any higher in the air? She seems like such a drag.
PR’s been giving her so many instructions lately that keeping her nose out of the clouds may be too much. That, and she’s not letting Ben have his hand on top/forward when holding hands. She still looks large and in charge.
“Sophie, scoot in closer!”
“Sophie, entwine your fingers”
“Sophie, look at Benedict!”
“Sophie, smile showing teeth!”
It’s a lot to remember, y’know. 4 out of 6 isn’t too bad after three weeks of PR remediation.
She looks like Eunice from She’s The Man. Not the girl who played her, but actually the character herself.
Hahaha…I love that movie! The good old days when Amands bynes was still sane. And yes SH does look like Eunice but acts like the character Monique!
I want to know if Sophie can handle the raw sexuality of the cumbercurls!?!? Does she think them gauche? Has she had to deal with our lord otter in all his cumbercurl glory?
(Longtime lurker, first time poster…be kind!)
Welcome to the crazy house! Stay for awhile. We have cookies.
Thanks!!!
*huddles shivering in the corner clutching her Sherlock DVDs*
Ben?? BEN?? Where are you BEN?!?! We seem to have lost you somewhere! Do you need an adult? You’re not supposed to run off and say dumb things!
The best the Fail could come up with was an article about gum. Brilliant.
Over saturated with all things Otter. Sticking with his older work is a nice safe comfy spot.
OMG I thought we would have a short break until SAG announcement, soooo naive.
And seems she is the new red carpet star now. So pretty! So elegant! One faux leather dress to rule the world!!
OHNO I can’t do this
Looking at the first photo: Is she just perpetually in mid-hair-toss, or is she just trying to draw attention away from that dress by forcing us to look at her neck? I have heard of the “sorority bump” and the “model hunch,” but I have seriously never seen anyone consistently pose throat-first before.
“but I have seriously never seen anyone consistently pose throat-first before”
Thank you for the much-needed chuckle! Now this is all I can see.
You know it’s a slow news day when disposing of gum is *news*. Sheesh.
Kaiser, I wish you had posted the accompanying video of Bendy saying “I’ve obviously had the most important news of my life as far as my life goes,” ’cause the lack of eye contact and deadness of expression is quite telling.
I think Kaiser is in the “believe” group.
Just saying, saw your reply in previous thread, the Asian one : )
By the way, as to the first photo LOL, nice choice, Kaiser
Angie, I used to work in corporate banking and worked with banks all over Asia. It was so helpful for my colleagues over there to have names I could pronounce!
That first picture was gold!
I know that chewing gum is a good way to satisfy the oral fixation that comes with quitting smoking, but how he disposed of his gum should not warrant a whole article in the Fail. And I’m embarrassed for my fellow Otter lovers that women were allegedly clamoring for used gum. Have some self respect ladies, seriously. Thats disgusting.
I can think of a few ways to satisfy oral fixation.
(I’ll see myself out)
I v v v much doubt there was anyone clamouring for his chewing gum. That’s The Mail trying to make a boring story slightly less boring and bringing these mythical ‘cumberbitches’ into it in the process.
Agree Soothy, which is why I popped in Daily Fail and allegedly 🙂
Whenever I see something on their site that gives me pause to think maybe its real, I remember that this is the same site that claimed Harry Styles was transitioning into being a woman and then I feel better 😀 😀 😀
Sure it happened on the red carpet with press, there would be no fans anywhere near that.
He’s so fetch and Gretchen Weiners is desperately trying to make him happen.
Gretchen is my favorite.
YOU CANT SIT WITH US BENEDICT!
You’d know that I’m not allowed to wear florals, right? Yeah! Two years ago she told me florals were *her* thing and I wasn’t allowed to wear them anymore. And then for St Patricks Day my parents got this pair of really expensive floral earrings and I had to pretend like I didn’t even like them and… it was so sad.
http://cdn.gurl.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/lacey-chabert-as-gretchen-wieners-in-mean-girls-crying.gif
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To be honest, I watched the clip on SOGO of them meeting in the carpet and they look normal.
She whispers something to him and he smiles at her, right behind him (and to my disbelief) you could even see Karon smiling.
Also, when I watched another video of them posing together they stop to move down the carpet and she says something that makes him laugh. There’s a screencap of it on SOGO, I believe.
I am the last person to come to her defense, trust me, but even I had to admit that whatever was bothering them before doesn’t seem to be now. Regardless of how weird, hasty, and awkward they seem I do think it’s real and I do think they will get married (of course, my opinion of him has changed drastically since seeing he is exactly as posh and boring as the rest of them).
Just needed somewhere to say that. whew.
ETA – I posted this on the last thread not realising that there was already a new one.
Well, I’d probably look “normal”, I guess, seeing someone I hadn’t seen in a week. Or, HW told Sophie to get her act together and look happy. She’s got to earn her gold digging paycheck somehow.
Don’t forget that the “happy” couple didn’t even arrive together. They showed up in different cars. WTF.
And I’m pretty sure that the next time we see them, after spending some time together in their dysfunctional relationship, they’ll be back to not liking each other again.
After her behavior on the last red carpet I don’t believe she had a choice but to act like a mature adult, if only to save her own reputation. Her antics were horrible and captured for everyone to see. Also people are starting to comment in the fail so the fake theory may be gaining ground where they eat.
I swear she’s an idiot. All she had to do was show up on his arm and smile. But NOOOO! Princess Sophie just had to be her manipulative, childish self and throw a hissy fit on the red carpet. Twice, no less. And when she did that, she showed her true colors. And everyone is now questioning why Ben would stoop so low to make this woman his fiancee.
And this woman went to Oxford. Let it be known that a high priced education CANNOT buy common sense.
Or even decent fashion sense. She looks horrible EVERYTIME she steps out on the red carpet. I’ve thrown up so many times at looking her dresses, that I’m going to need to learn how to choke it back in the future.
I still say they look like co-workers who’ve been forced to work on a project together.
I am rather confused how the fact that they interacted and he laughed a couple of times can change someone’s mind about all the weirdness that’s gone before. He laughs a lot. Colleagues, fans, friends, press.. I’m sorry but I just think it’s a bit graspy to read anything special into that.
SH’s behaviour is almost schizophrenic. The aloof boredom and Diana eyes (definitely not shyness) turned into maniacal grinning on Sunday.
As for him, he had the exact same expression in pictures as the past photographs we’ve seen over the last month or so.
It hasn’t changed my mind, per say. I’ve mentioned before on here that I was on the fence and that none of it made sense to me.
I’m not dismissing everything that happened previously, I’m just saying that it SEEMS, to me at least, that whatever was troubling them before isn’t (or at least wasn’t that night).
And like I said, I’m the last person to defend her but it’s crossed my mind before that if this were all orchestrated it wouldn’t have been so messy and we would probably be seeing more “candid” photos.
I’ve also pretty much given up on trying to decipher quotes because right now, if his mouth is open he’s campaigning (I think) and I’ve actually started rolling my eyes at seeing him.
Having said all that, there’s a little part of me that thinks they’ll make it down the aisle.
@Wait I’m Typing
Like I said, she’s gotta earn that paycheck.
@Wait I’m Typing, I hear you. They both are making an effort to look more relaxed, happy and in love. I haven’t thought it was a fake relationship either, but rather a boring, passionless one. I too think they will marry and soon (before Hamlet). If this is what he wants, then so be it.
With the apparent change in their demeanor, it’s hard for me not to believe it’s contrived, but then again, I’ll allow for the possibility that it was more due to self-consciousness and nervousness which they may be getting over.
I still can’t imagine them laughing out loud and having a great time together. I think they’ll get bored with each other, but what do I know? Maybe they’ll surprise us all and actually stay together and look happier together as time goes on. I’m happy to be proven wrong because I don’t wish a bad marriage on anyone and Ben seems determined to marry, Oscar nod or no.
But how can you go from one extreme to another like that? I didn’t get the ‘in love’ vibe on Sunday. He looked EXACTLY the same in photos, like he was hating every moment of it, despite the fact he’s VERY used to press photos now. And she looked she was trying waaaay too hard. Too much manic smiling. Her dourness on the previous two occasions were nothing to do with nervousness, that I’m sure of. She was still very forthright and appeared to be leading the way on the previous two occasions. She’s not shy.
Like I’ve said before, she’s lapping up the red carpet attention. She doesn’t need to attend every single one and she certainly doesn’t need to pose for photographers. Many couples don’t. And her confident stride along the hobbit red carpet in her Erdem showed anything but a nervous disposition.
@Soothy -ITA.
This is not him being nervous. He was clearly nervous during Jon Stewart interview*. He was fidgety and didn’t know what to do with his hands. His answers were also less coherent than normally.
The SH red carpet Benedict is like stone. Stoic and wax-like. He’s not nervous, he’s hating it. And she’s loving it. Also, she did a 180 from ESAs which is very telling.
(*back then I though “He seems nervous, I think he admires Jon a lot” and yesterday from People.com “I love [Jimmy] Fallon; [The] Daily Show. I think he’s a genius,” he says of Stewart.” I’m a f*cking mind-reader)
@Soothy were you referring to me in your comment? If so, I haven’t been at the other extreme of thinking the relationship was PR. I think the announcement was TIMED FOR PR, however. I don’t think BC is acting normally and that he’s acting stiff with SH because she is not very affectionate in public. He seems to be following her lead. He has seemed unhappy and his words about her are unconvincing but I’m not sure why. Only that he’s acting weird in comparison to past girlfriends. How can he convince me he’s happy when he sounds so dead when talking about her? Is he unhappy because of SH or other things? Who knows. I can’t judge that. Just that he seemed unhappy both in his words and facial expressions.
I did see a difference in their demeanor in videos this time around. There was more smiling, they seemed more relaxed and I didn’t think anything was odd in the way they met up before the red carpet, especially seeing Karon smile at whatever they were saying to each other. Was that due to PR coaching? Perhaps, which can lead one to be skeptical if it’s real or not.
I think they seem self-conscious on the red carpet. Perhaps that’s a more accurate word than “nervous”. I know I don’t act normal, relaxed or smiley when I’m highly self-conscious and I certainly would be so if I was on the red carpet with cameras rolling. So I’m giving them some benefit of the doubt because I do suspect that despite the weirdness, they will marry.
Like I said above, they don’t exude passion, but seem to be a rather boring couple. He looked like he had a lot more fun with OP. But, if this is what BC’s wants, then I hope it works out. If he’s miserable in the relationship, I really hope he ends it before it’s too late.
I think I just don’t care much any more. I’m so bored with them as a couple…
@MR
I didn’t say you did think it was for PR.
But I don’t think there’s anything to suggest that she doesn’t like being affectionate in public. Nobody knows that about her. And it doesn’t seem to be an affection or PDA thing. I can’t put my finger on what it is.
And she certainly seems to be a lot more at ease than him anyway.
He’s never been self conscious on red carpets before and she’s certainly not self conscious or nervous. She’s been very happy to stride ahead and the ease she had with skulking off in front of the cameras at the ESAs doesn’t exhibit a self conscious or unsure person to me. She just seems haughty and self assured to me. She’s often leading ahead of him too.
As you say, nobody knows what’s going on, it’s all speculation but a few extra tight grins from her doesn’t suggest a better demeanour to me.
Soothy, The reason I don’t think she’s affectionate in public is based on several pictures I saw of her with Conrad Shawcross. To me, she looked the same as with BC. Add to that, Conrad’s more affectionate in the pics with his wife (just as Ben is more affectionate with past gfs) and that leads me to the conclusion that it’s the “Sophie effect”.
My very affectionate huz is extremely sensitive to people’s emotions and if he senses that someone isn’t as touchy as he is, he mirrors their behavior, rather than risk making them uncomfortable. BC may be doing the same thing with SH. If this is what’s going on, he may get resentful for not feeling free to be expressive in public, I fear. That wouldn’t be enough to explain SourBatch, but I think this would be a plausible explanation why he looks so stiff with her.
It’s ok with me if you don’t see it that way, but just wanted to explain why I lean toward that theory. I realize that people can look at the same thing and see something very different. I try and give people the benefit of the doubt when I can. Like you said, who knows what’s really going on. They seem an odd couple to me.
in her pics with shawcross, their bodies are still angled towards each other. not so with ben. although i think they are practicing this as we speak.
I usually hug and kiss my loved ones after being apart from them, but that’s how I roll. Not suggesting they have to dry-hump on the red carpet but they look like colleagues instead of a couple in love. JMO. They have zero chemistry. Never did.
It’s funny you should say that!
I’ve showed videos of them to my friend (who only focuses on med school and gaming, to be honest) and she always pulls a funny face and says “Why do they look forced?”.
And my co-workers have remarked that they look like siblings posing and that it seems awkward and stiff which I find hilarious.
One of my co-workers is always making jokes about the NY Premiere when Keira came on the carpet she says “You know he was telling her ‘It should have been you!'”.
Somebody already attested upthread that BC and SH arrived together outside the venue, but he stayed outside to sign autographs. So this isn’t their first time seeing each other after his trip.
So, if they arrived together – which obviously means they saw each other before arriving at the venue – why greet each other as if each had not seen the other before the arrival? I don’t kiss and hug my bf if we just got out the same car. Is it me or does anyone else see the crap?
I didn’t see any kiss or hug. I’m on the “hinky engagement” train, but it seems as though people are now saying that their reunion wasn’t loving enough for people who hadn’t seen each other in a while or that it was too much of a greeting for people who had just seen each other. I’m not following.
Someone on SoGo said that she was there before he was.
I thought there were multiple reports that she was there before him and he arrived from the airport. I took that to mean that they hadn’t seen each other beforehand. If that’s incorrect and they did indeed arrive together, my apologies.
someone who posted on SoGo or Wikianon was actually there at the red carpet and says SH arrived first and went inside. BC arrived a bit later and did autographs, etc, till he had to do the pic walk. That’s been supported by his own statements that he came straight from the airport.
I stand corrected. Thanks. @MissMary
Catherine posted earlier on this thread:
“””””Catherine says:
December 9, 2014 at 11:55 am
I’m assuming this is inside the venue? They arrived in the same car, I was watching the arrivals outside with my flatmate. Benedict was outside signing for fans for about 10 mins before going in (I tried to comment on yesterday’s thread but it didn’t go through).””””””””
So she was there and saw them arrive together. I also read another fan report about Benedict being one of the few, or the only one, who signed for the fans before he went into the event.
Ah, Maggie.
You really are very persistent. People don’t need things reiterating. Catherine is just an anonymous poster, as are the several people apparently on twitter who said he arrived alone. So, whatever. Doesn’t really matter either way in all honesty.
IMDB still terrifying and scary? I imagine so.
So we have one person stating that they arrived together, but numerous people who state they arrived separately and at different times, with Ben himself saying he came straight from the airport.
First whisper – Showtime!
Second whisper – They’re eating it up. Smile!!
Comets, fish heads, and florals all agree the engagement is the best thing to happen to anyone in 2014. Octopi declined comment
She did flip her tentacles, though.
This should be the cover of Time Magazine’s most influential person (s).
I am not privy to the secret life of the Octopus and Otter, so I acknowledge my judgements and musings about their relationship will always be speculation.
But I do know this: a theatre co-director/assistant director/Charlotte Gainsbourg wannabe and an actor who was on the cusp of fame are now getting a whole lot of attention based on an engagement announcement in a newspaper. So no matter how it all works out in the end, whenever I see him act, my first thought will always be the media storm of the relationship. And I will always wonder how much of his private life he sold in exchange for an Oscar campaign. Even if it is a 20 yr marriage.
^^THIS
eenie meenie human being
Lucifer-I know! I feel awful. I will be 90 in some assisted living center and he will be winning some lifetime achievement award or it will be some retrospective and I will shout out, with cane pointing at the TV: “but you used an Octopus for publicity you deceptive water mammal.” And then my handlers at the assisted living center will promptly give me my nightly meds.
Of course if you were not referring to my post but another, forgive the narcissism. I have serious adhd today
@scarf girl, that gave me a big ol’ giggle. By the time we’re old and senile and forgetting what we said 5 minutes earlier, we will remember unimportant historical facts like the GrumpyBatch Oscar Campaign Shenanigans.
@MtnRunner glad I could provide some giggles.
I’m 100% with you, Scarf Girl. Even if they are married for 100 years, I will always remember “PR scheme” when i think of them, no matter how his career goes or their relationship ends. It’ll be first thing in my mind, I’m sure.
Down the road, if I am in an assisted living center and hear a woman with a strong cup of tea muttering under her breath “curse you Octopussy” I will know it is you Miss Mary.
lOL I’ll make sure to give you the secret sign so you know it’s me.
Yep.
She doesn’t have to go if she doesn’t want to according to him so…she’s there because she wants to be. Either way, they ain’t being private. The only shots of them have been attending public events (the clincher for me was The Hobbit, she had zero reason to be there), they’re not being stalked by his fans or the paps despite how big he seems to think he is. he’s been papped at airports only which is standard so he can’t moan about that.
Real or not, this is being used for PR by him and his team. He should just own it and stop banging on about being private while doing and saying the exact opposite.
I agree. The very least he could do is shut up about it. The more he talks the more ridiculous he looks.
I could be wrong, but I read that Charlotte Gainsbourg and SH are distantly related. I don’t know if this is a rumor, but she apparently has ties/family from France (aside from being from a ‘noble’ bloodline, according to Kneepads (People).
Edit: I just found the link, she is apparently her cousin, as Jane Birkin is her aunt. I would post it but the site will probably delete my comment. Can anyone confirm whether this is true? If her CV was polished/embellished, who knows what else could be fake about this woman…
No, I think that’s pure fiction. She’s not related to the Birkins.
Also, please reassure me that at no time were the words ‘from a noble bloodline’ used to describe her?
That’s total bs, her people putting false rumors out there most likely.
That sounds normal – any guy who is madly in love with his fiancee should consider their engagement the most important personal event of the year. Girls aren’t the only ones who dream of meeting their soulmate and starting a family.
I hope Sophie will give an interview to Vogue or Vanity Fair soon – we don’t know much about her.
Lol
Not only BARF, but I swear, you are the worst.
Please stop posting your insanity. Please.
Her work speaks for her.
If Vanity Fair does an interview with her, I will immediately cancel my subscription. I haven’t looked at Vogue in years, so Vogue, and Anna Wintour, can have her.
If Vanity Fair does an interview with her, I will immediately cancel my subscription. I haven’t looked at Vogue in years, so Vogue, and Anna Wintour, can have her.
$10.00.
What do you mean you don’t know that much about her? You of all people would have seen her bigged up CV. Take your $10.00.
Sorry for the double post…. oops!
No $10 for that one. They can’t be low key if SHE starts doing interviews and isn’t the point for them to stay low key and quiet about it all?
SH will never give an interview because she may make statements that would screw up their non-existent backstory. It’s his job to give interviews to Hello, People, Elle, Out, etc…that explain away inconsistencies in their story. If she starts talking their stories won’t match. It’s not part of the PR plan.
Mia, you are a delightful troll extraordinaire. Not surprised, though, the Cumberladies are rather trollable.
Goodbye troll.
This is bullying.
Time for your blue pill, may23.
“I’ve obviously had the most important news of my life as far as my life goes,”
Ohhh Benedict, your little soundbites are hilarious. It seems that your engagement was news to you…
Oh, it was. I think that’s pretty clear at this point. LOL.
My laugh for the week.
The pregnancy theorists ran with that comment as a hidden confirmation of the rumor. I wonder if he did that on purpose to keep them talking?
From the video it’s quite obvious he meant the enGAGment (which, as we learned from that lovely clip, was A. News to him B. private C. the most important thing D. he wasn’t actually sure E. he doesn’t do favorites)
There was a lot going on in that video. LOL.
ENOUGH. For dog’s sake, can we just be OVER this already!!??
Can he PLEASE. STOP. TALKING
No. Never. Ever. Until he gets a gold statue in his hand. Then it will be worse.
LOL!
I’m here for the show. If others don’t want to be, no one is forcing them to be here. I doubt Kaiser is holding back ‘super awesome gossip’ in favour of more space to Cumby. I’m sure she’s enjoying the show as much as we all are.
I’m starting to wobble on my fence, personally. But I’m with MtnRunner. We should go climb a mountain together. 🙂
@just here, after completing my first run in 13 weeks (Achilles injury), the prospect of getting back into the mtns are brighter than ever! Come along and get high with me!
Since I don’t run, I don’t know how to take that. 🚬
i just saw an slo-mo of the red carpet arrival and its clear that when she leans IN he pushes himself away. Like he feared that she was going to kiss him and he did not want to let that happen. Like magnets of same pole 😀
I saw the video, they have no emotion whatsoever. No hug, peck on the cheek, nothing. He does move his head when apparently she got too close for his comfort level. There is no way to hide the fact they are not close or comfortable with each other at all. No doubt.
Just looking at Eddie Redmayne’s “September wedding party” stories – esp from the Daily Fail – like this little gem…….
“I’ve discovered that the bash had all the hallmarks of a traditional wedding: a white marquee, stunning flowers, a three-course dinner from a luxury catering company, a toast to the happy couple and dancing. And I’m told the radiant ‘bride’ even wore a beautiful gown befitting the occasion.”
and keep thinking ‘Oh God No!’ I know this is just pr but I can’t help thinking if this is what HW et al are trying to compete with what on earth are we in for? I’m literally feeling nauseous at the thought of it. Someone please make me feel better – my imagination is having a field day here and it’s not good lol! Tell me this isn’t going to be THAT bad – or if it is – someone please tell a joke now and make me see the funny side.
I’m confused, what tragedy do you have in mind?
IMDB troll.
As a welcome break from this omnipresent woman, I’d like to post lovely Stephanie Cole’s lovely thoughts on Cumberman.
“When asked if she would like to work with the Cabin Pressure cast again, Stephanie Cole said “If I was to get work with Ben Cumberbatch it would be a bloody miracle! He is the most extraordinarily good actor, he’s not a film star, he’s an extraordinary actor in whatever medium he chooses to function, he really is. He’s one of our greats, I think. He is a lovely, lovely man, I’ve known his parents for a very long time and he’s very loyal, very loving and very caring as well as funny and witty and all the other things.””
I am excited about Cabin Pressure’s Zurich coming out…let’s get back to his talents because he is quite good on radio.
I didn’t even know there was a new post! Anyway, shamelessly reposting my comment here then. 😉
There were two really interesting posts on SoGo today; first the quote of Matthew Goode about working with Weinstein on A Single Man. So he knows exactly how this works, and so the ‘We both have Sophies’ now makes more sense to me. It seemed overly cute for someone like him. But he was taking the piss a bit I think. He knows the spotlight is on the engagement and what BC has to do.
And second, the thing about Joaquin Phoenix pretending to be engaged. Lainey brought Dr. Strange into it, saying he wouldn’t have been able to be play along when working for such a PR machine as Marvel. (Implied: Not like BC…)
I think Joaquin was shading the media with their obsession about BC’s engagement. Maybe he was shading BC as well for getting Doctor Strange. BC is a grown man he can choose whoever he wants to marry. I really don’t care if it is the love story or the biggest failure of the century to be honest. That is mistake or not to make. I wish him well. However my friend thinks he is going to be McCartney-ed (Heather Mills). she hopes he has a pre-nuptial agreement, because his wealth going to grow in the next 10 years. According to her, both BC and McCartney are naïve and can get easily taken by those women who appear average. I have no idea where she gets that from. She is a little nut sometimes.
I think everyone here wishes him well. That’s kind of the point really.
Who knows what’s really going on, but .. people will speculate. I hope whatever he does works out well for him. I just would like to see a happy face, ‘s’all.
I thought someone on this site said there is no equivalent to a pre – nuptial
agreement in the UK. And I have never understood Paul McCartney’s need to marry every woman he gets involved with, it’s not like he is going to have children. Just be partners.
Yes apparently prenuptial agreements are not enforceable in the UK. And it’s 15 minimum for a marriage announcement too in UK and Scotland, so no secret wedding.
what do you mean by 15 minimum for a marriage announcement? 15 days? Isn’t that just banns, if they did a church wedding?
In many countries, you have to schedule with the civil office before you can marry and it’s often 15 days or more in advance. You can have any manner of private ceremony you’d like in these places for the most part but the legal end of it usually is in the civil office, scheduled in advance, and pretty dry.
I think pre-nup should be a normal part of marriage but I am a bitter cynical hag. Poor Paul McCartney got really taken for a ride. Do really prenuptial agreements mean nothing in the UK? That sounds so strange.
Considering the wealthy families entrenched there one would think that pre – nups would be a normal part of married life.
I had hoped we would have one day without Bendycrap but alas no.
More Jason Clarke please! actually doesn’t have to be “more” just “some”!!!!!!!!
I just looked him up. Umm, no.
Not really important but people and maybe media keep mentioning how tall she is: she’s not tall at all. If he is really 6 foot she looks about 5’9″ in heels next to him. Those heels are about 10cm, so she’s at best about 5’6″. She looks taller because she looks like she starves herself.
Oh and first place I remember mentioning her as 5’9″? Senyorita, long before the engagement. I swear I want to say that account is her personal PR assistant. The first thing celebs fix up is their height
Also: she’s a chinless wonder
I’d put her at about 5’7″ – 5’8″.
I think that’s about the right range, Benedict’s a true 6ft1, if not a bit taller. I know my own height and she’s not as tall as I am, judging by these photo’s.
I’m 5’4″ and he didn’t seem super tall but he does slouch when he’s “off” so it’s hard to tell. Chris Pine is 6’1″ and he seems taller than B.
Nope, BC is not 6’1”, Tom Hiddleston is 6’2” and is, at least from the photos, 2” taller than BC…
Benedict Cumberbatch is NOT over 6 feet tall.
I don’t know, maybe his dress shoes had a heel that gave him an inch when I met him. I didn’t check those, haha. But I’m 5ft10 and he was more than an inch taller. But it’s just me judging on accord of private footage, lol. Maybe I shrank in the presence of greatness, all’s possible. I do think Hiddles is taller, that’s for sure.
Jeez Louise, who cares what height he or she is? And what has Tom Hiddleston to do with anything? Did you ladies personally measure both perhaps? So he’s NOT above 6 foot. Or maybe he is. Tom is taller. Great. Now I can sleep again. So happy about that.
You’re right, I don’t think she’s as tall as they claim. It’s probably why she keeps stretching her neck. I think Katia is almost as tall as BC, definitely taller than SH!
Katia’s probably 5’10” It’s a basic assumption for all models.
Katia is 5’9” , remember reading it somewhere… , so SH is max 5’7”
If Anna Wintour is 170cm according to Google – I strongly suspect that’s with heels included. SH seems like a tall woman. Got to agree with @HBIC. I’m 5’6″ she looks like she has one inch or two on me, and her lean figure makes her look taller. But 5’9′ is definitely a stretch, unless that’s with shoes again.
You know, I thought about it and maybe Ben put lifts in his shoes so he would be taller.
By the way who is the designer of this leather dress? It looks so gorgeous on her! I can only imagine how many freebees she is going to start getting now that she is his fiancee! Her and Amal have very interesting taste in fashion.
It’s “she and Amal.” At least use correct pronouns. Thanks.
hw will dock you $5 for that error,
What are freebees? Free insects that sting? HW must be scraping rock bottom after the nannies realized the truth.
I think May23 is Senyorita.
Man: Well could I have her spam instead of the baked beans then?
Waitress: You mean spam spam spam spam spam spam…
Vikings: Spam spam spam spam. Lovely spam! Wonderful spam! Spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam spa-a-a-a-a-am spam. Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Lovely spam! Spam spam spam spam!
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh that made my day and scared the infusion nurses!
I used to just fall asleep on my infusion nurse.
I get so bored during the sessions, I’ll read on my phone. Sometimes doze if they give me the antihistamine for a reaction lol but usually waste my phone battery.
Sounds like we were getting the same meds… IV benadryl sure does throw me for a loop. I would bring my ipad and read until my eyes crossed and then sleep.
heh, sounds like! *secret handshake*
I’ve been reading gossip blogs while getting it of late–it keeps me entertained and if i doze off, I don’t worry that i lost my place, lol.
Glad to have made your day MissMary.
Well after seeing the gifs on SoGo, he does NOT light up when he sees her. Sad.
That and the lack of physical chemistry, that he was positioning her and said ready as though they were about to be on. Seriously, this is the weirdest and worst staged engagement we have seen and I think it is due to him hating to sell it and her thinking she is above it all. They are the two least likely people to sell convincing love and that is why you have such over the top press and statements coming out. It has to make up for the shortcomings of their performances. So obvious, sloppy and so blatant, just like Harvey!
I just keep looking at the hand on the waist – it’s fingertips only, no palm. Touching just a little as possible.
note how they smile in the direction of the camera on the other side. they know the cameras are on so they act as lovey as they can (which is not very).
There is a gif on sogo where she walks up to him and there is absolutely no reaction on his face. None. These are people who haven’t seen each other for days, supposedly in love and he just arrived from another country safely, but he has no emotion on his face when she approaches him, not even a smile. I hug my female friends when we meet at the movies. I don’t know what to think that they, especially him, don’t even bother to fake it.
“I’ll stop at Christmas. It will be nice to sit down next to my fiancee. I haven’t seen her for a week.”
^^ I can’t find the link.. Help?!
check out SoGo, no link but it was mentioned in the Daily Mirror apparently
Thank you! 🙂
Still can’t find it. lol
That’s it?! All he wants to do is sit down? Lol He must be awfully boring. I suggest they should also have a talk about their relationship. Seriously. If he’s busy until Christmas, how is he to attend the alleged Engagement party?? Unless it’s a Christmas party too?! I wonder if Gambles is invited??
Gambles will be providing the music!
Well I’d rather hear him say sit down than hear a graphic description of their…ah, pre-marital dealings. God knows BC shares a lot these days.
She can’t make it to THC site? Lord knows they’re not filming in Outer Mongolia. Doesn’t he get a few hours off each day to eat and sleep? Is she put in cold storage off the RC? I’d be in Wells or wherever, kicking around the bookstores and antique shops waiting for him to get off work. Hypothetically, that is, as I have an actual JOB.
But…but…she’s super busy according to him.
Its a miracle they even met because they’re so busy!
Never mind that her CV has nothing pretty much since 2012 and nothing “in production” but still…she’s very very busy but they can’t say with what because it’s super secret.
It’s secret because she is at home sitting on her couch.
OK, sure I didn’t have to click on this link but the only reason I did is to say, I’m so sick and tired of any mentions about him or this couple to the point that I don’t even want to see the new movie he is in. I really don’t get the fascination and the fact that any mentions about him or his fiancee get so many postings. Am I the only one that feels this way??? Am I missing something??? I almost feel like I have to find another site that’s more versatile instead of being so obsessive about Cumberbatch. Big sigh…#frustrated.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but he’s not the only person featured on this site? Why not just skip his threads? You don’t have to click on them.
You are right Soothy but it’s tiring and boring to seepretry much the same postings about him with no real story attached. This is the same story over and over again: yes he is engaged and yes he is in love.
Things aren’t always black and white, Mona. You’re free to disagree, obviously, but if people are questioning, that’s up to them. Like I say, I really just would skip threads if I was tired of the subject matter, regardless of how often I was seeing it appear.
I don’t even know who this guy is?? How do all the articles get over 300+ comments!!?
Can someone please explain who this person is for me :,)
He is awesome in british show Sherlock. Definitely check it out. It is worth it and not only for his performance but for really good writing and storytelling. As for his appeal I only find him attractive as Sherlock so I can’t really say but there’s a lot of women who are quite taken with this gentleman. He has parts in some good movies too but I haven’t seen them yet so I don’t know. He got engaged to a woman. The last part is rather big deal apparently.
Ok he just appeared randomly at the CNN Heroes awards show, wtf, can’t I get a break, he is literally everywhere!!!!
Thank HW for that. The fact that we see him everywhere is proof of a PR campaign on overdrive. I half expect to see him at my local fast food restaurant.
If you do, give him a good slap, will you? Somebody needs to…
thn wash ur hands
Or you can slap him in the face with a glove so you don’t get your hands all ottery. Plus I think the traditionalist in him would like that. Just get ready for a duel.
Tbf though. It’s weinstein who needs the slap. According to a chat I had the other day on here with people who knows HW’s tactics better than I, BC has a world of pain if he says no to anything on the itinerary.
I think I said something last spring or summer about how he was showing up to the proverbial opening of an envelope. But this is even worse!
Obvious:
1. Ben and Sophie are not madly in love based on their behavior.
2. They are using the engagement for PR purposes.
I believe there will be a general consensus on these two points.
I recall Ben saying, some time ago, that fans were just “projecting” their ideals on him, so it got me thinking. Could Ben be projecting his fantasy of a home and family on Sophie? He needed a woman on his arm for PR AND wanted a family. In his own words, she “fits” and she supports him, so he thinks she’ll do. He doesn’t seem to see anything wrong with this picture at the moment and, if he doesn’t wake up from his delusion in the next three months, will go through with the wedding.
But, at some point, he will have to see that, just like Ben doesn’t live up to many fan fantasies of him, Sophie won’t live up to his. So, if something doesn’t wake him up, there will probably be a March wedding, and a divorce down the line.
Well they don’t seem madly/passionately in love. But it can be hard to tell with some couples. I personally know a couple that was very cold towards each other in public but they got married and apparently are very happy together. So I don’t really know. I think this is the real deal as in they like each other and want to get married but I really can’t tell when it comes to their personal feelings. Maybe he just decided to settle down and she was a convenient choice? Maybe he really likes her but can’t really translate this into actions when they are out in public? Hard to tell.
Perhaps they just haven’t figured out how to love each other? I know everyone loves differently. We know how much he loves OP because of the tonnes of pics of them together so its difficult to compare when there is hardly any pics with SH, especially outside PR events. I hope they realized that before walking down the isle. Either way I’M don’t see this relationship/arrangement lasting long. Divorce is imminent…
Especially for celebrities!
@Mikasa Interesting analysis. Back when Benedict was promoting Parade’s End, he said Christopher and Syliva didn’t know how to love each other. Either way, I’m still on team fake. A few grins on the red carpet can’t erase the weirdness leading up to and after the announcement and I absolutely think Phoenix was riffing on this situation. He absolutely wanted the Strange role. Maybe all the “normalize” comments were for Marvel’s benefit. Benedict is certainly more ‘normal’ than Phoenix.
Id like to think he was riffing on it but I don’t know, and I wouldn’t assume he wanted the role bad: negotiations ended long before BC got it.
Cynical as it is, this comes off as pure fiction. Probably created in a pr office with names placed on dotted lines.
I thought at first he said that their engagement was THE most important thing of 2014,and I was rolling my eyes! But the most important thing to him, sure. In fact, it had better be.
Call me if he starts jumping on a couch.
i said in a previous thread, that if he looks any happier at the BIFAs, it’s because the dr. strange deal was finalized. that’s not only a weight off after a long negotiation process, it’s also the most money he’s ever made.
but let’s not forget, this is a staging. they will change their behaviour for the desired effect at each subsequent outing. is this not how theatre people do? keep improving the performance; keep practicing. if they need to smile and laugh to convince the onlooker, they will.
Jeez, I don’t care what he does/says anymore just as long as he stays FAR AWAY from SNL this weekend. Some cumbergals want him to crash Martin’s hosting party—I say NOOOOO. I’m sure the urge to do some Sherlock/fan-fiction skit is appealing but no, just no.
Ben I’m so TIRED of you, babe.
Just stop.
He used to be interesting and fun!
Now he just makes me sad.
I wonder how well The Imitation Game will do at the box office. So far it doesn’t look that impressive.
I think it’s doing really well, so I’ve heard?
It’s doing well in NYC and LA for limited release. I’m hoping it keeps it up for wide release. I haven’t seen much in the way of adverts for it tbh but if HW is pushing, he’ll push for the most success where the voters live–NYC and LA–if he thinks it won’t fly in “middle America”.
@No lipservice please.
TIG is doing very well..
I looked at the numbers at boxoffice mojo and saw it gained just about 5 mio. I overlooked it was a limited release.
I still think Cumberbatch uses his engagement to get into the news for promotional reasons. All very tasteful but nevertheless.
mmmm *can’t believe I can comment again* This is Grace by the way. For some strange reason my name stopped working.
That happens to me sometimes. Very strange.
Hi Grac(i)e! 🙂
Soothy, Cate, *wave*
Back atcha! *wave*
*waves with engagement banner* (I have no idea what an engagement banner is, but I’m waving with it anyway…)
Wait, who got engaged? I thought Benny just got gagged? 🙂
Just saw a gif on SoGo where Ben sees SH on the red carpet. So supposedly these 2 haven’t seen each other for a week. They don’t hug or kiss (odd) and he looks at her and says either, “You ready?” or “You’re late.” They look like two actors doing a job. That’s it. Nothing to suggest they’re in a relationship and they’ve missed one another after a week apart.
Again, they are weird if this is real. Beyond weird.
It may not literally have been the first time they saw each other since he got back, though. There’s conflicting accounts on that. But he certainly would have likely had very little time between landing and being there.
I’m not sure how he doesn’t fall down. Going to LA for less than a day and going straight to an awards do, is just mind blowing to me.
Did you see Clive Owen’s interview about that? He was flown from NYC to LA just for a award he was nominated for and to present I think. And then he was too late to even present and he didn’t win any either. And it was literally straight back to the airport after that. This was all for Closer and of course HW.
Yeah, I saw that. Total madness.
I don’t think Closer was a Weinstein tho, but he did produce a later CO movie. I think that’s where the confusion is.
I don’t know how he’s still standing either. I wouldn’t be able to function with all that flying and doing interviews within such a short period of time.
@Soothy, ah yes, that was me being lazy, you’re completely right, no Weinstein vehicle! I guess I’m just HW brainwashed atm, help! But it’s madness indeed.
And Renee, I wouldn’t be able to function either, let alone talk about my engagement non-stop, hehe.
and don’t forget, he’s planning the wedding too. On the plane. In his sleep.
@cate
Haha. Weinstein’s pretty much known as the most sleazy and bullyish campaigner but they’re all crazy when it comes to it.
He had no emotion on his face at all, NOTHING, not a smile, just an attitude like, “O.K., let’s go.” I hug my girlfriends when we meet at the movies or for dinner.
Has anyone heard from Kazlock? Did she give up on us?
I wondered about her too. Hope she’s okay.
She did mention her mother feeling poorly before.
Oh yeah, I remember that. Kaz, if you’re reading, I hope both of you are doing ok!
she’s doing fine (Kaz is–don’t know about her mom!) I promise!
Oh good. I don’t know how you people stay in touch from here. Glad she’s doing ok.
I’m back!!!
Hello lovelies. Sorry for my absence.Tried,unsuccessfully,to post a few times last week.After a bit of a hissy fit that Stickupherarse would have been proud of,I decided to have a break.
Mum is doing much better,so I’ll be able to pop in again.
I see that PR is still monitoring the web for reactions.BIFA was a prime example of that.
PDA?- check
Smiles?Check
No stroppy batchbitch? Check
Still not 100%,but they’re trying harder.
Here you are. Hi, Kaz!
Hi Kazlock! Glad to hear your mom is doing better! 🙂
Good to see you again, kaz! *waves*
Thanks for the welcome back.
Glad to see May23 is still here. I think it’s great that HW still has her on payroll.She appears to have been joined by some of her coworkers too!
I’ve read about the interview where he mentions he received news in his personal life that he wants to keep private. Couple of posts I saw speculated that he meant Stickupherarse was knocked up(barf)!
Didn’t see actual video of it…I’ve stopped listening/reading his interviews. Find he talks a lit of shil lately.
Don’t know if any of you have seen this little gem from HuffPo Canada – .Move over Angelina and Brad—Benedict Cumberbatch and Sophie Hunter are the new red carpet stars!
Like seriously?
And I don’t know – wasn’t Ben talking about slowing down so he could enjoy life? Then a little Marvel franchise shows up? I think he will marry during his holiday coz I don’t think he’s going to have any time off until 2016 the rate he’s going!
HuffPo is stupid. This is just more PR BS. Who believes this crap? Brad and Angelina were huge stars seperately before they were a couple.
Don’t suppose it’s too late in this thread to ask for updated poll numbers:
Showmance: yes or no?
Think they’ll marry: yes or no?
Showmance? Yes
Marry? Possibly. He may just decide “oh, what the he11” , it will stop all those questions he gets in interviews about marriage and family, and she’s got nothing to loose. I hope not, but they’re in pretty deep. Even if they do marry, nothing will ever convince me it’s a real romance. There were way too many plants and leaks before any announcement was made.
Showmance: 100%
Marry: no way
Showmance: 100%
Marry: probably, idk.
Posted in previous thread but was late so it may have been missed.
I’m with you Claire, I’m bracing myself for a marry tbh, not that I believe any of whatever this is is the true love for him, but it’s really hard to tell at this point, everything is possible.
I feel they(BC/PR/HW/whoever) have lost their mind some time ago, whatever the original campaign plan was, they’ve failed to go with the script, the PR is trying and have caught up a bit, but the snowball keeps on running, who knows what will happen next.
Let’s wait for SAG and GG announcement.
Showmance all the way. Marriage… I want to say no way but I don’t trust BC of late lol so 98 percent no way 2 percent “he’ll lose his damn mind”.
+1
Maybe to both counts. I don’t know why, but I still think there was once something there. Not now, for sure.
Also; tumblr scares me again. Thank heavens you all let us of the faint of hearts in on the important parts. Sogo and the other skeptics blog are getting a bit over the top for me. Not in the believers camp but yeesh, chill out people.
At first, I though they (PR and Hometeam Batch) were way ahead of us all by making them intentionally looking sad and distant so there’d be teams Real or Fake, causing more buzz and reblogs. And maybe they got wind of how crazy some parts of his fandom is, that they’re afraid someone might actually harm/kill themselves, Sophie or even Ben. I mean, have you read some of those BC- centered fanfics? *shivers*. Though his fan demographic may be older, there’s still this possibility that pictures of them sooo happy might trigger cumbersuicide to someone who is severely obsessed with BC. Maybe he was getting threats? I mean, some kids cut their wrists as protest on the Harry Styles-Taylor Swift relationship. Who knows what a semi-grown/grown woman might be capable of. Celebrity obsession has reached a whole new level thanks to the internet. So I was thinking that they had to downplay to protect themselves.
But then I saw more pics of them and the man’s eyes look DEAD. Like soul-crushed Dead. I’ve seen enough videos of him in his natural self to gauge the difference. Jawseyes is real. That pic at the Variety awards, where she sits (looking pleased) beside him and he smiles at the camera. Look at his eyes! It has quiet desperation written all over it. I was tempted to make a meme with ‘Help Me’ on it. He only looks like that with her. Makes one think that she might have something on him that can potentially ruin his life career so he’s forced to play along. Sex, lied and videotaped?
@Swaneee. Link to that(Variety)pic? There have been so many awards, it’s hard to keep up.
Not only fake, but these two don’t even like each other.
Fakie faker fakerson. Nothing can convince me otherwise. NO wedding BC is smarter thn that.
@Lucifer. Let’s hope he is.
Showmance: yes.
Marry: Yes. 18 – 36 months.
And then a divorce. 🙁
Showmance: yes indeedy
Marry: Considering prenups in UK aren’t supposed to be enforceable and a divorce would surely be messy, I say never.
@Save the Benny
+1!
Kate Hudson just annouced she and her fiance broke their engagement; they had been engaged for four (?) years but a spokesperson said they had been separated for a long time. That same night she appeared with Derek Hough from DWTS. So, it can be done. And they had a child together.
Showmance: Yes
Marry: Maybe. Odds decrease the longer it takes. If they don’t marry by Hamlet, I’m guessing No.
Really don’t like this serious actor mode. I’m skipping his new interviews. Can I have the guy who sang Snoop Dogg’s “Gin and Juice” in an Alan Rickman accent back? Please?
For those who are thinking he could marry her: what is your take on no prenup in UK? Would he actually gamble so much money? I know the situation is absurdly odd but …
I sincerely hope he’s wiser than that . . . but with the way he’s been behaving lately, I must admit I’m not hopeful. He seems to have completely lost it.
Hey, Benedict, I appreciate your talent and congrats on the engagement and all, but please…GIVE IT A FREAKIN’ REST, OKAY?
Sheesh!
I swear this is the last time I’m clicking on one of these UNLESS it’s about the filming of the Dr. Strange flick. I’m there for all things Marvel these days.
I guess I’m one of the few people reading this as an admission that she’s preggers. I’m basing this on the tea leaf of BC not being too sloppy with verb tenses.
“I’ve obviously had the most important news of my life as far as my life goes.”
This suggests something was announced to him, rather than an event he initiated, i.e. by proposing.
“But that’s also sort of private, I don’t want to talk about that too much, but my engagement to the woman I love is obviously the most important thing of 2014 for me.”
That thing I just mentioned is private (/eyeroll), distinct from my engagement in 2014 (with birth to come in 2015).
Btw, that TWIL thing is really getting ridiculous. It’s either (a) the lisp issue — btw, try saying “lisp issue” three times fast; (b) they consulted some psychologist who suggested this phrasing would help the crazier fans cope with the news over time.
That was my immediate thought too but after I considered it, he said ‘obviously’, which he surely wouldn’t say if he was talking about anything that he was yet to make public?
And I know he’s been acting a bit odd, but would he really say something to so blatantly to bring attention to something he wants to keep private? That would just be too weird.
I haven’t seen the video in full but the others say it’s obvious he’s talking about the engagement. The other thing that came to mind is he’s baiting to keep the tabloids/fans talking. I said this elsewhere but if he uses his kid to keep his name in the headlines, or even baiting fans about a real pregnancy, he’s officially a turd down the drain for me. I’ll have lost all respect for him as a decent person, his acting be damned
My initial thought when I heard him say that is she’s pregnant too! Hence the rushed engagement. But apparently she’s been pictured with wine in her hand so there’s a bit of confusion.
there are photos of them at the table inside the BIFAs and she has a mostly empty glass of champagne in front of her. She has been drinking for sure, not just posing with glasses in hand
Do you actually believe these people would consult with a psychologist to help his fans cope with his engagement? That is truly some IMDB mess right there.
I agree. Why I tend to stay off tumblr like another person said on this post. Just too much left field speculations
@moodgirl, yes. Not for the fans’ sake, but to do what they can to deflate impulses towards dangerously nutty behavior. Based on other celebs’ experiences, let alone BC’s already excitable fans, this is a not an unreasonable concern.
No offence, Ally, but that’s one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever heard.
‘He does to use her name because he’s consulted a psychologist who’s advised that fans would prefer it that way’? LMAO. Come. On.
what ll be today’s thread any guesses?its a slow news day IMO
Oh, darling. SAG noms ;D It will be news regardless whether he gets one or not.
(3 hours to go)
And then Golden Globes the following day 🙂
He’ll get the nomination(s), I’d be a bit surprised if he didn’t given he has TWC behind him but time will tell, it’s a really strong year.
I genuinely don’t think he has a hope of winning though.
3 Noms for BC. (miniseries, lead and ensemble)
And tomorrow will be the Nerdist podcast, as SAG today? Surely not two posts.
Hey Karon et al.
THIS is how you sell a “I’m so happy, this is the woman I love who I proposed to, my fiancee is the most amazing woman I have ever met”. No overly gross display, no huge PDA, just genuine warmth and affection with full body contact.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/09/23EAEC9B00000578-2867450-Joyous_The_couple_looked_loved_up_as_they_laughed_on_the_blue_ca-a-56_1418168267430.jpg
You might want to have a word with Ben and Sophie.
I thought exactly the same when I saw those photos. I couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ if Eddie is using the wedding for PR because it’s quite obvious these two like each other.
Not to mention they’ve been together long enough where this sort of thing would be accepted easier by both parties, because trust and loyalty had been established. Unlike dating for a few months, engagement, and within two weeks boom selling it like a two dollar hoe
Well Eddie was in a relationship with her for 2 years, he didn’t start dating her in the summer, go to a very public outing at the FO then go out of his way to hide it and then announce an engagement out of the blue 2 days before starting his awards season campaign with the launch of his movie.
Plus Eddie looks like he actually likes her so even if the wedding/engagement were timed for awards season, it’s an easier sell than the cold fish show we’re getting from the other two.
That’s what I’ve been talking about. I know nothing about ER and his fiancee but they look genuinely in love with one another. Cute couple! So refreshing to see this instead of the pics of the cringeworthy duo.
oi, stop giving PR ideas for free. Just say LOL and we peer group ll know the rest!!
Not to mention the very classic gown. I like her style. SH doesn’t seem to be able to pull this off. Hannah is supporting her fiance, and I don’t get that vibe from SH at all. HB and ER (and TH) have class, BC and SH seems thirsty and awkward. It’s just so very odd.
That is the ugliest suit I have ever seen.
Hollywood Sessions roundtable clips with BC, Eddie, Carrell, Robert Downey Jnr. and Keaton.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-et-hollywood-sessions-lead-actor-contenders-20141209-premiumvideoplaylist.html
Clip no 5: What the hell, LA times? You have five Oscar worthy actors sitting on the couch and you start to talk about the f*cking engagement? C’mon! I give up.
Also, Benedict, take a note from Eddie. This is how you answer questions about privacy, FFS.
And we are normalizing again…
Was this filmed during the US tour which would explain the terms he uses.
He really is obsessed with people papping him isn’t he, like he’s being stalked constantly which is basically untrue, I mean yes there are the shots he’s asked to pose for but the ones he’s not aware of, there really aren’t that many of them. In fact it doesn’t happen that much at all, especially not with her around him. She hasn’t been photographed with him outside of Hay as far as I’m aware.
Eddies answer was a lot better and seemed less….up himself.
If I was a fan who wanted a photo of him outside of a premiere/press, I’d give it a miss. My guess is he hates it judging by the “portable publishing device” comment.
I don’t think she’s ever around him unless they roll out a red carpet for her to walk upon. That would explain why there’s not one sneaky shot of them together since the engagement.
That’s why it sounds so stupid when he uses it as reason #4 why they announced it, to stop a grainy shot getting out.
@Lindy79 I think just about anything he’s said re: this farce, I mean, engagement, sounds odd, awkward, phony and as you pointed out, just plain stupid. The whole entire thing has been ridiculous, as you said above, compared to ER and his fiancee.
Whatever this thing is, fake or real, it’s effed up. And it’s tough to change first impressions.
Yeah, would just pretend he didn’t exist if I saw him in everyday life, lest I be declared “Floral”.
weeeelll maybe it’s the dark corners i hang out in, but there’s loads of sneak pics of him. everything from eating to to getting his hair dyed in a salon
ive said it before, i think he wants fans to talk to him like he’s a person instead of gawking/snapping pics like hes a roadside attraction, but he needs to find a better way to express it
i dnt even see the videos anymore. His dead eyes and depressing face Puts be under coma
In the LATimes clip when he is done talking, he drops his eyes immediately like he feels guilty for what he just said. Also, it sounds like he has his hand over his mouth when they show the picture of the announcement when we can’t see him.
Benedict’s Nerdist podcast is out. I’m pissed because I wanted him to do Nerdist for soooo long but now I don’t even want to listen to his interview.
And I used to be able to listen to him ramble on and on and found it adorable….sigh. Now I’m just “Shut up, please.”
It’s not bad… enGAGment gets a bare mention around 12 minutes and that’s it. Literally in passing. He’s almost dorkybatch again in it.
On the Red Carpet thread on imdb, someone posed the question(seriously, I think, not snarky)of why weren’t his parents or Adam at the BIFAs. Any guesses what kept them away? Cleaning grout? Can’t suck it up and play along? Anybody?
He got the SAG Nom
Congrats to @SteveCarell, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jake Gyllenhaal, @MichaelKeaton, & Eddie Redmayne for your Male Lead #sagawards Nomination!
and one for Sherlock…sweet jesus
Campaigning intensifies to level 2 wtfery now… GG noms are announced tomorrow, right? *cracks knuckles* Okay, bracing.
(I think BC will win for Sherlock but not TIG in this one, ngl.)
I agree. And Sherlock nomination will actually decrease his chances because voters will most likely go “Well I voted him in miniseries category so I won’t vote for him twice”
Keaton or Eddie will win.
I dunno, people were pretty WTF when we won the Emmy, many thought Ruffalo would get it but the Normal Heart guys cancelled each other out.
No such problem here and personally, I was gutted he didn’t win, even as a fan of Sherlock. He would have deserved it for S2 but not S3.
Im Rooting for Ruffalo
That sounds like a campaign slogan.
@Lindy79
I am forever SEETHING that Ruffalo didn’t win for A Normal Heart. He was heartbreaking in it.
My poor Fluffalo… 🙁
He was the only Normal Heart nominee in the Best Actor category though. The Supporting Actor category however had tonnes of Normal Heart nominees (4 out of 6 if I recall correctly).
+ Miniseries nom for Sherlock
+ Ensemble for TIG.
Prepare for a bloodbath.
Indeed. Now the real fun campaigning starts.
Sherlock was awful last year.
They only submitted His Last Vow for tv movie which was the only one above par.
Agree. Sherlock should have won the Emmys for season 2. Season 3 was a mess.
@soothy: yes! The first 2 series were funny, the third was ridiculous. I hope they will not continue this style in s4.
Alright, benedict is up for 2 sag awards. It’s going to be a bumpy ride.
But, to add, congrats to all the other nominees. I really admire and like all the lead males so, whoever wins will be fine with me.
Well, he got a sag nom hope it was worth it bendy
Have you seen the NY times Benedict & Reese snog?
Talk about “He’s straight and sexy!” campaign…
(Tried to post a link, but it disappeared… hmmm… the post I mean)
LOL that was not a good kiss. The chins are displayed! *cackles* Not seeing a leading man there. Don’t eat my face!
I’m so sick of hearing about this
How many times is this same story going to get posted on this site ?
A lot. Brace yourself or don’t click on it.