When discussing the “Bermuda triangle” of Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt, many people have cited a Hollywood incident that happened some fifty years ago. They mention the “Bermuda triangle” of Debbie Reynolds, Eddie Fisher and Elizabeth Taylor. The story goes that Debbie and Eddie were married, with children, and their closest friends were Elizabeth Taylor and her third husband, super-producer Michael Todd. Todd died tragically in a plane crash that left Elizabeth distraught. Eddie Fisher spent a lot of time comforting the young widow and mother, and soon left Debbie for Liz. Just a few years after that, Liz left Eddie for the also-married Richard Burton.
I suppose the comparisons are there. Debbie Reynolds and Jennifer Aniston both have/had that same kind of “America’s Sweetheart” mantle. Both Liz and Angelina have that “Beautiful Homewrecker” mantle. But comparing Brad Pitt to Eddie Fisher just seems weird. Nonetheless, there were similarities in their situations.
Anyway, Debbie Reynolds has chimed in about the recent “Bermuda triangle”, and she claims that with some time, Angelina and Jennifer could be friends. PR Inside has more:
Love rivals Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie could be pals one day – according to veteran actress Debbie Reynolds.
Aniston and Jolie are still feuding through press interviews, four years after Brad Pitt ended his marriage to the Friends actress and fell for his Mr and Mrs Smith co-star Jolie.
Reynolds insists the love triangle mirrors her own heartache back in 1959, when her first husband Eddie Fisher left her for close pal Elizabeth Taylor.Fifty years on, Reynolds and Taylor have overcome the rivalry to form a firm friendship – and she insists Aniston and Jolie can too.
The 76-year-old says, “(The split with Fisher) reminds me of what happened with Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Except we were a generation earlier.” And she urges the pair to become friends – insisting there was nothing Aniston could do to keep Pitt from leaving.
Reynolds adds,”We (she and Taylor) are friends again.”
“I mean, what can you do? When the man wants to leave he wants to leave.”
[From PR Inside]
I’ve always thought that a big reason Debbie and Liz buried the hatchet was because Liz dumped Eddie when someone better came along. It just took some time for both ladies to come to the shocking realization that they were fighting over a pipsqeak like Eddie Fisher, and that they were both better off without him. Liz has admitted that she never would have married Eddie had she not been so heartbroken over Michael Todd’s death, and she’s often described both Todd and Richard Burton as “the loves of her life”.
Here’s Elizabeth Taylor, Eddie Fisher, and Debbie Reynolds in 1958.
I really don’t see those 2 ever being friends; both their asses are crazy! But who’s to say, birds of a feather…you know the rest.
Well I have never heard of that triangle before.
But I think the reason Liz and Debbie were able to be friends in the end was because they were friends in the first place.
I think the main thing for Debbie was not losing a man, but being betrayed by the two people she held close….
Ana, I was about to say the same thing. AJ and JA were never friends, and they probably never will be. That’s life.
I love how it’s always the women feuding, when in fact it was simply a case of a man who left his wife for a hotter, younger woman, which coincidentally boosted his (then) underwhelming acting career.
So what if the jilted ex-wife has hurt feelings! Isn’t that normal? And if the new girlfriend is a little smug because she likely gets told the man is happier with her than he was with the ex – it’s a crappy made-for-tv movie plot.
I’m often glad the paparazzi weren’t around all those years ago. As many of my fav.s were with very married men. Or married and stepping out themselves. Hepburn/Bacall/Monroe jump to mind. The leading men were all gay. Today that just wouldn’t work. I think they wouldn’t have had the same success in todays Hollywood
all though it would have been hella fun to gossip our way right through everything Liz Taylor did.
They weren’t friends to begin with…
I enjoy hearing about old celebrities though.
It does make sense that Liz and Debbie would stay friends since they were friends before, and Liz dumped Eddie.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Jolie-Pitts eventually break up. Now they are in baby-acquisition mode, but when that wears off, there could be trouble. Stay tuned, time will tell!
This is from a woman who had two small children when her husband left her. JA could learn a lot about handling a situation with some class from Debbie.
I don’t see this happening
If Jen wanted to make peace with Angelina she would have done so years ago. The fact is it is too profitable for Jen to keep the feud going as that’s how she stays in the limelight. She might have forgiven Brad but never Angie and I think her fans want that status quo too.
Maybe they can be friends. And hopefully they can recreate the end scene from Thelma and Louise with Pitt in the back and leave us alone.
I’d love to know Carrie Fisher’s take on both situations.
DR seems very emotionally mature. Hoopefully JA is too, or will become so. ET seems like a selfish cow, though I’m sure there’s more to her than that. Just loved her as Maggie the Cat!
Mmmm, let’s see: Could they be Friends? JA and AJ do have a lot in common besides their initials. They both have famous actor fathers and grew up in the entertainment business. Both had major rifts with one parent (Jen with her mother, Angie with her father). They’re both beautiful and rich, and have mega-successful acting careers. They have both lived with Brad Pitt.
Could this the start of a beautiful friendship?
I actually would love to see JA and AJ friends! If things end with Brad Pitt and Angelina, I definitely think at least, a few friendly chats might happen. Though AJ doesn’t seem to me to be the kind of person to hang out with JA and her crowd.
I agree with you all who said Liz and Debbie were able to be friends bc Eddie was no longer in the picture. I’d love to know more about that old hollywood triangle! It would give everyone a rest from bickering over AJ/JA/BP.
??! They have absolutely nothing of any substance in common. They’re nothing to each other, why in the world would they ever be friends?? Reckon I’m more likely to be friends with one of them than them being friends with each other. That’s how unlikely I think it is. 80
Why do Angelina fans think it’s “profitable for Jen to keep the feud going as that’s how she stays in the limelight?”
Jennifer has only sought the limelight when she has a movie to promote. The only interviews she has granted since her divorce were directly related to promoting a film. For years the tabloids have been making millions off of the supposed JA-AJ feud, but it’s all made-up stuff. It’s not like Jennifer has been feeding the media with details about her breakup or her life with Brad. She has said NOTHING whatsoever about what happened between her and Brad and AJ, though she has very briefly and occasionally mentioned her personal feelings about it, which she has a right to do.
I don’t think JA has control over the tabloids. They decide who and what to run on their covers because that’s what sells magazines.
Sauronsarmy: Lol! Priceless.
Nothing in common geronimo? They have tons in common! Read PJ’s post. And since when did people have to have everything in common to be friends? For all we know JA and AJ could share a passion for 1950’s musicals or underwater basket weaving. I’m not saying they’ll ever be friends but I’d think there’d be worse obstacles to overcome than lack of mutual interests.
I think in Debbie’s case she probably made peace with the fact that Elizabeth is a needy woman who can’t live without a man, and had so little self esteem that one-upping another woman made her feel better. Its petty and stupid, and maybe Debbie was able to be her friend again because she knew deep down that she was superior to Liz (morally anyway). I know I would feel comfort in knowing it was less about me and more about a pathetic weak man thinking with his d!ck, and some needy whore who can’t stand to be without a man for even five seconds.
One day Angelina will left Brad for Jennifer.
That would be hilarous.
PJ, you’re right to some degree about JA not controlling the media with the fued, it’s more her publicist Huvane and the largest company the both work for, CAA. They are well known to create fake relationship of stars for media expoture, And he was already revealed by the several tabs for feeding them information regarding some of his clients, Namely Jen Aniston & Gwenyth, funny how he is both Brad’s exes pubicists. He’s well known to manipulate the media when he sees fit, then goes back on his words. The only problem I have with Aniston, is that she allows him to create all this hoopla around her life and then when it backfires, she gets the bad end of the stick. It’s really her insecurities that allows her to feel she needs him to do this for her, when in reality,she’s better off without him. Since the divorce, she’s only dated one man that she’s currently still with, and Douchebag Mayer is just hired to be her fake public boyfriend, as were Scholfer(spelling) & Vaughn. Maybe she needs to take the same route as Angelina and dump her Publiscist and represent herself. I’m sure she would do so much better without him as well as keep all that money she’s been paying him.
Well, for one thing, Angelina would have several women to make amends with, including Laura Dern (then engaged to BillyBob Thornton) She’s like a child in a candy store, if it looks good, she wants it and what she wants she takes. As to the comments about Huvan, also representing Gwenneth Paltrow, the “love of Brad’s Life, his Angel” nothing like what’s occured with Jen came out with Gwen when she and Brad broke off their engagement, so that arguement doesn’t hold water either. Brad morphs into the habits/appearance/character of the woman he’s “in love with” at that time, and it changes with his women. That to me indicates a Peter Pan syndrom. It’s obvious that both Angie and Brad have “issues” and are still searching for their true identities. Both seem to be desperately seeking mass approval which they mistake for love. I don’t think they will last for the long haul, most Hollywood marriages don’t. But, as someone earlier said, they will have beautiful children resulting from the first flush of this adult crush. I truely pity Brad Pitt…he will likely end up alone and a joke of the females in Hollywood. I wish Mickey’s book would come out soon so i can read about Angie and Mickey ridiculing Brad’s stupidity as it was quoted. Sad….very sad. In this case, those who think they won, are actually the losers. I hope Jennifer can have a truly happy and long lasting marriage. There are some in Hollywood who have achieved this, and it can be done. But, to be successful at it, you must practice compassion, committment, communication, and partnership in all areas. Brad will always be on the lookout. Sad.
@Holly – I did read PJ’s post, that why I said they had nothing of any substance. in common I just think they’re oceans apart in character, temperament, outlook, approach etc. It’s not a criticism, just an observation. And just for the record, I’ve never seen Pitt as a prize worth fighting over!
Carrie Fisher in promoting her latest book made the comparison between her parents and Aniston/Pitt/Jolie.
Both Taylor and Reynolds agree Fisher was a problem as both a straying husband and poor parent.
I consider Pitt’s role that of a sycophant, and if Aniston/Jolie ever share friendly discussions in the future on Pitt …they have the topic.
Angelina doesn’t seem capable of having any female friends. So I wouldn’t hold my breath.
I will not even address Jennifer. But I am so sick of Angelina being accused of stealing BBT. Laura Dern said she went away to film a movie and came back and her man was married. Have any of you especially the poster thought about this statement. My boyfriend goes out of town on business at least 3 time a month. We will talk about 10 times a day. Do you mean to tell me that she went away and never spoke to this man. Never saw him during that time. What kind of relationship did she have. He said they were over. I’m sure he said that to Angelina. How would she know or not know about the status of his relationship unless he told her. When you meet a man and he says he is single. You take his word. This whole Laura Dern mess sounds like Jennifer. If you are in a relationship planning a marriage you TALK to the man in your life. Laura Dern is a lying ass. She knew her relationship was over.. just like Jennifer. Of course Women blame the new woman. Jennifer only speaks kindly about BRad. Would you do that in regards to a man that people think.. that you let think. he cheated.. Hell no.. so stop all the cheating stuff. IT did not happen. As Debbie said. When a man wants to go he goes.. Enough said. Get over it..
As I was recycling my magazines the other day I came across a really old interview with Angelina (pre-Brad Pitt). It talked about how Angelina checked herself into a mental hospital or something because she was afraid her and Billy Bob wouldn’t be able to be together since his relationship wasn’t resolved.
So the way I took it, they fell in love, but didn’t want to do anything about it until after he broke up with Laura.
Ana, it seems to me then, that history is repeating itself. Maybe she will never find a man she actually wants to keep forever. Speaking of Angelina of course. And i do pity the woman. She grew up in a disfunctional family, was given no moral guidance, and turned loose on society to feel free to experiment with sex in general. I do think she is trying now, but not for the right reasons. I wish her luck, but see only more disaster and disappointments ahead for her…..very sad.
Oh Jeebus… don’t tell me we have another 45 years of this crapology to suffer through. Brad’ll be 90 and people will still be blathering on about this like it’s important.
You can picture it though… Angelina going to pick up her pension, some other geriatric randomer shuffling up to her, and putting in their teeth especially to call her “Skankalina”.
:rolleyes:
Agree Mairead! IT’s been 4 years and I think people need to stop judging people from a distance. We really don’t know these people and heaping all that negativity on someone you don’t know is a really gross way to live your life. I believe you get what you put out there. Best to think positive and wish all three celebs the best.
DOUBT IT. Both Angelina and Jennifer strike me as “Queen Bee” types. I know quite a few of these women and they don’t make good friends at all. These women never have friendships with anyone more successful or famous than they are. Plus, they have to be the center of attention and be catered to in their circle of friends. If you stop catering to their needs, they usually drop you real quick. Am I right?
I’ve always been a fan of both Taylor and Reynolds, and Reynolds is a class act all the way. Some celebs today can learn a thing or to from Reynolds class act.
Patty anne, she was very close with her mother. I know she has problems with her dad but I don’t consider that “too dysfunctional”
Not compared to her co-star Liev. Geez that poor guy has been through a lot!
People grow up, they change. I know I’m a lot different than I was just 7 and a half months ago before the birth of my daughter. And I don’t even wanna talk about the difference from 6 years ago. I never did drugs like Angelina, but I sure raised a lot of hell. Lol. Anyway, I’m rambling…
Debra, you’re right on the “when a man wants to go he’ll go”….however, I have to comment on the talking on the phone ten times a day deal…with no specific reference to you, if a man wants to screw around, he can do it no matter if he’s talking to his S/O 100 times a day, or living with her for that matter. People who cheat find a way. No on in that kind of relationship every wants to believe that their S/O would do such a thing, so comments like “please, she had to see it coming” don’t always fit. Besides which, some women have a life of their own where 50 million texts and phone calls don’t fit into their day.
Angelina got together w/ a cheating husband… the exact type of man her estranged father is….
how can she be so oblivious to her own pattern?
“Well I have never heard of that triangle before.” …. are you 12? must have been born in the 80s…
Debra-
I agree with you. Thanks for your insight.
I would be so impressed with Jennifer if she could be friends with Angelina. When a man wants to leave (and the same goes for a woman who has had enough), he WILL leave.
Here is a formula that we all should know:
Thoughts + beliefs = behavior/ action
This is what Debbie Reynolds was saying. Her husband had thoughts of a different life, which led to a sustained belief and then, he became motivated to follow through with action- leaving. This is how you hold someone accountable for their actions and able to clearly see how it all came to be. Brad was starting to feel unfulfilled with his life (as he stated). He was in his forties and the yearning to be a father was no longer a passing thought. Enter Jolie, meeting him AT THE TIME of Brad feeling this way and then he starts to believe that he can have fatherhood – but he would have to leave his marriage in order to get there. (He began to formulate the belief while inside his marriage that he did not want children with Aniston. They were DEFINITELY NOT on the same page about when and how many children to have and for many…that is a deal breaker.) He makes his decision… AND WOW! He now has kids! He has a big, connected and loving family! It is what he always wanted. His aim was never to hurt Jennifer. As his wife, she knew of this desire before anyone else. He just wanted to get on with the next chapter of his life without anymore delay…fatherhood.
I hope Jennifer finds what she is looking for. She has had several chances at love, before and after Brad Pitt. But more importantly, I hope she spends the time making sure that her chosen man is suitable and compatible for her, that they are on the same page, and that they GROW together, not apart.
The concept that a man/woman can be stolen is an immature, irresponsible and shallow copout statement. It lacks a real understanding of why spouses/friends/lovers leave a relationship. There is always a compelling reason(s), and rarely is it ever just sex.
Debbie sounds like a woman who came out of that situation, although ungraciously unpleasant, as a women stronger now with more depth and understanding of people’s behavior. All women do not necessarily emerge out like Debbie did as a winner. Some stay bitter to the very end, however, and that is a shame. They are only hurting themselves and ruin chances of attracting strong-willed, virtuous men in the future.
Josephina.
BRAVO, so well said.
“The concept that a man/woman can be stolen is an immature, irresponsible and shallow copout statement. It lacks a real understanding of why spouses/friends/lovers leave a relationship. There is always a compelling reason(s), and rarely is it ever just sex.”
100% True!!
If a couple is not walking the same path together in the same direction sharing the same goals, the relationship will fail.
The whole thing with Reynolds .Fisher and Taylor was a complete different thin g all together. Debie and Eddie had kids. Brad and Jen didnt. They were not best friends as Liz and Debbie were. Brad did not leave Jen for Angie. He was almost out the door before he ever met Aj because Jen didnt want kids.
Debbie and Eddie were fighting all the time,they were miserable in their marriage as were Brad and Jen.
Tony Curtis and his wife Janet Lee went thru the same thing and they had kids.
There is no way that Jen and Aj will be friends .
You know that Brad and Anjie have been together longer then he and Jen lol
No not 12. More like just on the verge of 21. So I was born in the late eighties. I have never heard of Debbie Reynolds or Eddie Fisher. While I’ve heard of Elizabeth Taylor I don’t think I have seen any of her work except for her White Diamonds commerical.
I’m also amoung the few that Jennifer and Brad’s marriage was over before he got together with Angelina.
People say Jennifer Aniston didn’t want to have kids like it is a verified fact. The only word we have on the matter is tabloids that said she didn’t want kids vs. what she actually said – that she does want kids, did want kids. Maybe they disagreed on how many to have, but this rumor is not a fact, it was tabloid speculation.
Sarah, exactly. Jennifer said in some interview that she wants to have a baby.
In ianundercover’s blog there’s a post that sheds light on this matter, and says that Jennifer Aniston has never said that she didn’t want to have baby, nor that she didn’t want because focused on her career.
I agree that a spouse or S/O can’t be “stolen” from a happy relationship…HOWEVER, relationships, real ones, go through ups and downs, and a lot of marriages have patches where i’m sure either party is considering leaving, are weak and vulnerable, but then they make it through the other side and go on to have happier times.
What I have ZERO respect for, are the type of women who hone in on troubled relationships like some vulture to lend a “listening ear” to tell him how horrible his spouse is treating him, or a warm bed to a man in this situation, when they should otherwise leave the couple alone to work it out.
I’ve known a couple of women like this, and have even heard one state that she likes the “challenge” of a married man and trying to break up the couple.
To ignore that such people/situations exist, is equally immature or narrow minded about relationships.
I don’t think Angelina has it in her to say sorry. She thinks it is a sign of weakness. She thinks she is too good to ever say sorry. I believe she is one of the most stuck up women in the world, she wants her image to be perfect but it can’t be and that pisses her off. She will never apologize like I have read Elizabeth Taylor did.
Friends? Never will happen. Name one female friend she has now?
Angie that is.
Angelina doesn’t have any friends, male or female.
She doesn’t even speak to her own father.
All Angelina has is ex- husbands which sometimes she clings to, and ex lovers.
Angelina will never be friends with Brad because she knows he still cares for her very much. Besides Brad is the one who is still friends with JA, I bet he would love it if Angelina were friends with JA but that will never happen.
Well, Ned, if nothing else, you’ve convinced me that Angelina and Jennifer do actually have a lot in common.
Jen didn’t speak to her own mother for years.
All Jen has is an ex-husband which sometimes she clings to, and on-and-off ex-lovers.
ZOMG! IT’S LIKE THEY’RE THE EXACT SAME PERSON!!!
🙂
hahaha!
ducky… exactly! sooo true!
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Leaving a marriage is a very hard, deep and life changing decision to make and is rarely made on a whim. Having said that, it would be very difficult for any outsider, no matter how convincing–sex, promise for a better life– to lure someone out of a marriage that the person WANTS to keep. Again, with the way you think, you do not hold the person responsible for theire choice to move on. At the end of the day, Brad made the decision to leave.
We are all interdependent upon one another, and so, we also care about certain people’s opinions. As far as people’s influence upon us, of course we make decisions in our lives that include an outsider’s perspective, that is a given. We all make decisions, oftentimes based on the infuences of those we respect and/or care about. Sometimes the influencer is a parent, spouse, co-worker, longtime friend, best friend, arch enemy, mentor, leader, etc. But be clear, the infuencer is NOT the decision maker. Brad left the marriage because it was his marriage to keep or let go. An outsider will never know all of the reasons why a spouse decides to exit a marriage. What is obvious is that Jen and Brad were not on the same page about when to have kids and how many. I have said this earlier in the post- that is a deal breaker for many spouses.
I am sure Brad will always care about Jen’s welfare in some way. However, the door to a continuing marriage to Jen had been shut tight. He is loooooonnng gone. He made a decision: he no longer wanted her as his wife, let alone the mother of his future children. He simply wishes Jen well as he described her as a “sweetheart”, and not his sweetheart. He does not reminisce in interviews about her because it does not fulfill a need. He talks incessantly about Angie and the kids because…that’s what people do when they are in love. They want everyone to know how lucky and happy they feel.
He is motivated and inspired by his love for Angie, period. This is easily recognizable by the many children, and the many joint projects and goals that they share together. He not only loves Angie, he IS IN LOVE with her. Love is a beautiful thing, and they have it.
You can love someone (Jen) but realize that you are not going to be together anymore. He is not in any pain and he has expressed repeatedly that he has no regrets. Jen is simply part of his past, she was once his wife. There is no malice behind this fact.
Thank You Josephina, that was very well typed. I hope those how tend to forever hold a grudge will finally get the point by reading your post, but I highly doubt it.
The British press are saying that the 4 of them (Brad,Ang,Jen & the other guy)all met up just B4 the oscars and all is fine in the lurve triangle/square???
I wish CH! I dream about the triangle being over. I wish they would all kiss and make up!!! Then, all the tabloids and internet creep-O fans would go on with their lives. IT’s been 4 + yrs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
personally, I don’t get all the hoopla abt Pitt in the first place, though I *did* when he was in “River Runs Through It” and “Thelma and Louise.” I agree he’s often good on film, but I think for the past 10 yrs he’s looked mean, scruffy, and unbecoming with the facial hair thing. I think the two women far outweigh him. And I think it would be very interesting if/when Angie leaves him for someone else. A fine day when they’re no longer on every tabloid.
The only way Jen could be friends with ange is when she steals brad back. Which will never happen, because jen is straight up crazy. Ange has other humanitarian projects at hand, and jen just keeps gossipping about how angie “stole” her man. Dude, get over it, he was probably unhappy in the first place.
re by Jossephina: “What is obvious is that Jen and Brad were not on the same page about when to have kids and how many. I have said this earlier in the post- that is a deal breaker for many spouses.”
Just goes to show you what happens when people shake the rice out of their shoes and realize there was no due diligence of figuring out the particulars of this rather important consideration prior to marriage.
Or worse, went into it in the beginning thinking they could change the mind of the other person.
Anyway, Pitt now has kids coming out his nose so if that’s his idea of perfect, then carry on.
You are so insightful, Josephina! But I’d like to point out that Brad talks incessantly about his kids, not Angelina. I have always wondered why he does that and what it means. My interpretation is that their primary bond is with the kids, not each other. He’s the babydaddy, she’s the babymomma.
In interviews he does not mention Angelina unless specifically asked, but he lights up when he talks about the kids. He’s never said he loves her — except once when Oprah said he loved AJ, he didn’t deny it. Meantime AJ has often spoken about her love for Brad. Any interpretations?
Re Liz, Eddie and Debbie: During the 1950s divorce was relatively rare and not very socially acceptable. Eddie Fisher left Debbie, a popular actress, and his two small children for Taylor, the widow of his best friend Mike Todd. The ensuing scandal could have ruined Taylor’s career, but there was huge public sympathy for her because of Todd’s tragic death at the height of his career. They had had a very high profile, very happy marriage, and she was truly devastated at his loss. Shortly after this, she survived a life-threatening illness, which helped mitigate the effects of the scandal.
I don’t think so.. if im jennifer i will hate angelina as long as i live 😛 n brad pit too hahhaa
It is a much gossiped-about fact that Jennifer had a miscarriage with Brad due to her taking some pills (hormones I think) to make her skinny. THat was the main reason for the break up. I live in Hollywood and my friend works for a PR firm. It is well known around here. Her hairdresser, Chris McMillan was telling some people and it got out. So, I wish people would quit using “Jen didn’t want to have children” because the fact is, she and BRad went through a very painful miscarriage. For Brad to come later and insinuate that she didn’t want to have kids was cruel, mean and not true. What was true was that Jen was vain and that vanity (wanting to be thin) cost her the baby.
There was even a bind item about it on Lainey
Secrets from the BFF
Old gossip now leaking, courtesy of her BFF – in whose chair she sat after her split, receiving therapy and getting pretty at the same time. That’s what friends are for.
Only lately her BFF is getting tired of her attitude problem – friendship is apparently on her terms and the BFF is treated alternately as servant and confidante. So since the BFF can be as catty as they come, secrets are starting seep, shedding light on several mysteries, including weight, children, and heartbreak, all pointing to one cause.
Male hormones???
According to the BFF, she took male hormones as a way to stay thin. As a result, she miscarried at least once, which is what resulted in the big break – she lost love because she was obsessed with being skinny…so says the BFF. The BFF also confirms that she has since stopped, which is why her body is back to lovely.
Still…her reputation, or her looks for that matter, won’t be lovely for long if BFF keeps yapping. In many ways, in one very critical way, she needs her buddy more than her buddy needs her.
There is an error in the article. It says:
“four years after Brad Pitt ended his marriage to the Friends actress and fell for his Mr and Mrs Smith co-star Jolie.”
What it should say is:
“four years after Brad Pitt fell for his Mr and Mrs Smith co-star Jolie and then ended his marriage to the Friends actress.”
PJ: Than you must have missed all the articles where BP talks enthusiatically about his love for AJ and their children. I believe he even said in one article that Angie was the “great love” of his life.
In fact, I can give you other examples of interviews he did:
Recently, Brad mentioned that he and Angie share a deep love, like his character Benjamin Button did in the movie. Something about “the greater the love, the greater the loss. I feel that way about my partner”.
In another piece, shortly after the birth of their twins, Brad talks about the great rewards of fatherhood, especially when the love between the parents is great and there is communication and emmense admiration for one another.
The list is endless. Google is your friend, do research before making an opinion about something you know nothing about.
PJ
Thanks for the compliment.
I also concur with PUFFT. There are numerous occasions where he states that “we fell in love,” Angie is his “great love,” and talks about his relationship with regarding being someone he “really,realy loves” ad nauseum. If you do not believe Brad, then you should believe his co-stars Cate Blanchett and Taraji Henson. They have also commented about how on love those two are –from their pespective.
I never said that he did not try to have a baby with Jennifer. They tried and obviously, it did not work out. I am saying that after a certain point, he changed his mind about pursuing a family with Jennifer. In fact, Brad vehemently defended Jennifer in an interview with Diane Sawyer in 2005 stating that they both wanted children. I am also saying that there must have been other problems as well, outside of the decision of when to have children. My point was that Brad made a decision to move on and he was not lured away.
If there exist reports out there that Jen miscarried, that would be unfortunate. If indeed she took hormone pills to get and stay thin… then she made a painfully, regrettable decision. First, Jen should forgive herself and love herself more, then move on. Next, I would say “Damn you, Hollywood, for putting that type of pressure on actresses where they feel this is a solution to stay in the game.” And then I would say, “Jen, what a heavy price to pay. Vanity comes at a price.” I hope this is not true as I would not wish the frightening experience of a miscarriage on anyone.
All of these “what ifs” are a moot point now. Brad has moved on.
Pufft and Josephina…this is all just gossip! no intelligent person needs to spend more time researching gossip. All parties involved have moved on and I think it’s for the better. The breakup of the brad and jen relationship turned out great for Jennifer, she seems much happier and peaceful! Apparently you don’t need six children to be happy.
ciao,ciao
Sophia,
The hairdresser said, …. got back to gossip in the pr firm ….. friend works at …… second cousin to a friend of the aunt whose nephew mows the lawn of the broker who work for a man who filled his car at the gas station of ……
Wow, that is just like being a fly on the wall
Brad and Angelina fell in love on the set of Mr. and Mrs. Smith, Brad left his wife. Regardless if the relationship was over or not. Knowing the man you love has stronger feelings for someone else would be a large pill to swallow but one that would have to go down sooner or later. They will never be friends, that is absurd. Knowing another woman acted innapropriatly towards your HUSBAND is unforgivable. They were never friends in the first place. Angie seems very jelous and arrogant and takes what she wants regardless of whom she hurts.
I agree with orion70, no respect for women who play the listening ear card…, Josephina is blah blah blah again…
Re: Pat, lol…I totally met that guy at the gas station earlier in this post…sophia I think
Almost missed out on this popular thread. There is no reason for Jen to be friends with someone whom she probably has nothing in common with other than the fact she boned her ex-husband too.
It’s probably best for us not to get too philosophical on the reasons why their marriage ended, since it is really random speculation. Poor guys will never live down this triangle. I’m ashamed I still find this crap interesting too. Not as much but… I’m still clicking on these threads and posting.
Faye and others-
If Jen really loved Brad the way that you are implying…well, then she should be ecstatic about his life quality of life right now. Brad is living his dreams as we speak. He was not doing much with his life when he was with Jen.
Just recently (See Just Jared post) Jen admitted that she never “dreamed of being married, having kids and living in Connecticut.” She said she goes with the flow. There is nothing wrong with that. But then,…why marry Brad, a man who WANTS to be married and have LOTS of children? Are you not wasting his time? Why partner with a man that does not want what you want? It is clear to me that each wanted something different from the marriage, and that neither of them needed the other in order to get what they wanted most.
During their very short marriage she said repeatedly that she wanted kids, a child is coming soon, baby on the way, etc. Seven years later, there is no birth child nor adopted child. Again, this would not have been an issue if Brad was equally casual about parenthood.
@Josephine, and how do you speak so surely about these two individuals thoughts and feelings? From pictures and from random quotes that you hyper analyzed?
If we’re going that route, I believe Angelina never imagined herself a mommy either and then she publicly stated she would never have biological kids. I don’t know how much more clear one can be about that.
You’ll also find quotes where Brad says he’s not ready for kids himself while he was married. My point is you can’t tell what really happened from a few quotes here and there so it’s just strange when people speak as if they are so very intimate with those people.
DD-
Angie has said several times throughout her lifetime, and before Maddox entered her life in 2001/2002, that she wanted lots of children. She has been consistent about wanting to be a mother. It wasn’t until she met Brad that she considered having biological children. She explained why in an interview… Brad had a lot to do with her changing her mind about having biological children. That’s what love can do.
Specifically, towards the end of his marriage, there was no question that the interest to become a father began to grow. There were interviews where he stated this more than once. Once he met Angie, s single mother, on the set and he was exposed to parenthood from her, he wanted it even more.
All you have to do is google the past interviews- if you have never read them in the first place- and you will see a steady progression between Brad and Angie regarding similar goals, interests, and yes, attraction to one another. Their individual history resembles two separate roads that merged into one.
Most of my comments come from direct quotes from Brad and Angie over the past 4 years. Again, if you care to, please google their history of interviews and then, connect the dots.
I’ve read all the comments, and I agree with Josephina.
@roro: Yeah, I can tell you weren’t in the least bit curious (which is really what makes people research material, gossip included) when you read through all fifty something add comments and…
wait for it…
Actually voiced your opinion!!! Wow, I love the strong smell of hypocracy on this thread. Love it!
I don’t think you have to be friends with the woman your man cheated on you with to show you are a grown-up. I think it perfectly legitimate to just not feud, but keep to yourself. You can forgive, you have to, to a certain extent, if you want to move on with your life and be happy again. But why would you even want to be friends with someone who betrayed you in the first place? Why would you be friends with someone who does not share your moral standards?
There is no basis of comparison at all on the Elizabeth Taylor,Debbie Reynolds and Eddie Fisher love triangle with Jen, Angie and Brad. Must people not stop talking about Jen, Brad, and Angie? They’re all moving on with their lives and only God’s will determines what to happen in the future.
God is just!
Brad loves Angelina and has a family with her. How long would it last?… only God has the answer, the truth is that they share a very special and responsible relationship (married or not)and I respect them for that. As for Jennifer, she’s the past in Brad’s life and that’s that!
Angelina doesn’t have any female friends, so this aint happening! She wants to be Queen Bee. Dont want any competition around.
For all you who say she does have girlfriends — Vogue Interview – 2007 — she doesn’t sound like anyone I’d want to be friends with.
Although she keeps up with mom Marcheline Bertrand, Jolie said she doesn’t allow many people into her inner circle.
“I don’t trust anyone,” Jolie admitted.
“I don’t think it’s a good thing. This is going to make you think that maybe I should get some therapy, but trust is such a bizarre word. I’d like to say that I trust my mother, but I also don’t know if she might do something that she thinks is in my best interest.
Still, “I trust Brad will never do anything,” she said.
But after a few moments, Jolie then added, “I don’t know. I don’t trust anybody completely.”
Jolie said she won’t wear emotions on her sleeve – because it wouldn’t do her any good.
“It’s not going to accomplish anything to cry. It’s not going to help you to get a hug!” she said.
“I’m not a hugger. People make fun of me. It’s something that I have a hard time with. If someone hugs me, I hold my breath. Snuggling, cuddling, hugging, crying . . . all that stuff makes me very uncomfortable.”
@Sauvage: To some degree, I agree with you – in that you don’t have to be friends with someone who had an ‘affair’ with your husband.
You said, “But why would you even want to be friends with someone who betrayed you in the first place?”
AJ didn’t betray JA because they weren’t friends to begin with. It was BP that betrayed JA because he was married to her.
The question than is, why has she forgiven BP but not AJ?
@Rachel: I’ve said this before, why would Angie want girl friends when women have the potential of being the most vindictive creatures alive. And Angie, being drop dead gorgeous, can make any person go green with envy.
I agree, best avoid the drama and stay clear of female friends.
To an extent, I can relate to what she is saying. I love my mum and my hubby – but I wouldn’t say I wear my heart on my sleeve. I’m strong minded, opinionated and somewhat emotionally robotic.
It was not until I had children that I was overwhelmed with an intense feeling love. And even today, I’m only really affectionate to my husband and children. I don’t do the ‘girlfriends’ thing. I’ve tried, it’s not me. I’d rather roll with the boys.
You would have had to have had a rebellious childhood to really understand what Angie is talking about.
I used to feel the same way about women when I was young, in my teenage years when I was going through this “mad at the world” phase. Then I grew up.
I realized that not ALL women are vindictive. There are many lovely, trustworthy, just-as-fun-as-guys women out there. Thinking that all women are vindictive or bad is like thinking that all black people are gang members. It’s a sad generalization, and one that shows a bit of prejudice and immaturity.
Now Pufft, I am not saying you are any of those things!! Just my thoughts on the whole Angelina thing since it’s the “hot topic”!!
Pufft…just gives some girls out there a try! I have a group of wonderful, smart, successful girlfriends who don’t get jealous, talk behind each other’s back, or act like what Lainey calls the “Mini Van Majority”. After all, you’re a cool girl (I’m sure!) so it makes sense there would be others out there like you! 🙂
“If a couple is not walking the same path together in the same direction sharing the same goals, the relationship will fail. ”
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But that doesn’t suit the mini-van agenda. There HAS to be an evil homewrecking slut at the heart of every marriage break up and her name is Angelina Jolie!
Seriously the crap people say about these three individuals is mind-boggling. Just reading some of the comments on here say it all. People. Will.Not.Let.This.Go. Ever!
Like They Always say,” You cant steal someone’s Man. He obviously didn’t Love you enough to stay if he left you for another, or atleast he didn’t love you as much as her or he would’nt have left. so get over it.. Don’t try and blame another lady because you can’t keep a man. if he wanted you he would still be with you. Liz And Angelina are two of the Baddest bit**es in the World. Beautiful,Sexy,and they know what a real man wants..’A Real Women”. jennifer is a tired little girl whom for some reason can’t seem to hold a man down in a relationship, “Jen” did you ever think that maybe You were the problem and thats why men don’t wanna stay with you?! you can’t blame a man for following his heart, it was always love at first sight/touch/kiss when he saw angelina..Debbie renolds And Jen You could never be Liz And Angelina, they exude sexiness and Beauty.. Look at Liz= she’s almost 80 and still beautiful as ever,she has style, class, and still hits the night clubs when she can.. Liz and Angelina you 2 are the sexiest bit**es around..