As Kaiser mentioned last week, Kirstie Alley has been doing the rounds to promote her Jenny Craig weight loss. Kirstie may have ditched the weight for now, but she’s still crazy as a high-ranking Scientologist. Kirstie visited Howard Stern on Monday to talk about her weight loss, and she said a lot of other stuff instead. Jenny Craig must be thrilled!
Kirstie let fly that she’s now an OT Level VII Scientologist. What does this mean? Kirstie’s paid for enough auditing sessions that she’s now allowed to hook herself up to the e-meter and audit herself. More importantly, she’s now very close to Tom Cruise in ranking. Tom hit Level VIII immediately before he lost his mind in public, so we can expect Kirstie to start acting even more unhinged in public than her usual abrasive personality. Kirstie the couch jumper? We’ll see.
For now, Kirstie is content to pick on her old buddy Leah Remini some more. Leah
left the CO$ in the summer of 2013. She immediately threw down by filing a missing persons report for David Miscavige’s wife, Shelley. The report went nowhere because the CO$ was able to ward off the LAPD (as always). But Kirstie didn’t forget it. She publicly mean girled Leah, but now Kirstie is denying everything. Natch:
On Scientology: “I think that people need to always — no matter what path they choose — the goal I hope would be to become more and more aware, and less insane.”
Going OT Level VII: “It means that you have gotten rid of all the things that would create aberrated behavior in you that you didn’t want. It’s an awareness level. It’s an achievement.”
Stern asks if she’s serious: “I’m not some f***ing fake OT-7!”
On Leah Remini: “She left the religion and she was very critical. That’s just sort of water under the bridge. There’s nothing going on and there was nothing going on for years. I didn’t shun her, but if a lot of people are rejecting you, at some point you gotta ask, ‘What am I doing?’ I mean, that’s what I would have asked myself.”
[From Howard Stern on Soundcloud]
You can hear the whole Stern interview here. Kirstie is full of it and lying about how she treated Leah, whose family confirmed the shunning. Surely things happened the way Leah said it went down. The CO$ staunchly practices ex-communication and declares anyone who leaves a “suppressive person.” Journalist Tony Ortega has some official documents from a former Scientologist turned SP. The disturbing language of those docs reveals that the CO$ burns every bridge available with former members.
I can’t wait to see what the future holds for OT Level VII Kirstie. We’ve already heard her anti-psychiatry rants. Maybe we’ll soon see her calling Matt Lauer “glib.” That will be so much fun.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & WENN
It means that you have gotten rid of all the things that would create aberrated behavior in you that you didn’t want.
Scientology pig latin.
so what happens when she gains all the weight back? does she get demoted to VI?
I hope so because she won’t keep that weight off for 6 months…. I just cannot like her, she was so great on Cheers and then she turned crazy.
They won’t demote her but they will tell her she “pulled it in” as with any misfortune. Interesting that now that you can go past OT8 they’ve finally let her have OT7. They are probably hoping to sell her the Super Power rundown. Also, OT8 has to be done on their asbestos – laden boat (which is so asbestos – laden that it isn’t permitted to dock in US waters)! Really! Google freewinds asbestos
As opposed to the aberrated behavior in you you did want – those things you keep… and maybe knit some nice hats for.
LMFAO, Well Done, Sir Winston Churchill, my good man, well done.
Like swearing for example…….😃
*furiously begins knitting projects*
Yeah, those pesky body thetans are really hard to remove….especially since they don’t exist and ya know, it’s all a freakin’ con.
it sounds like a new-fangled procedure. facial thetaning to remove all of your stubborn zetas. no more upsilons to ruin a great day out.
I recently read in an Aussie mag that she, Kelly Preston and Nancy Cartwright were bumped up to OT VII. The article said that it normally takes many, many months (years?) to reach that level, but that the trio were “honoured” in one month. The undisguised inference was that they’d paid for the honour of becoming OT VII. Something extra for the CV, I suppose. Loonies, if you ask me…
I assume John Travolta was already an OT VII. Do these people have any clue how insane they sound? That “religion” is more sci-fi than a Star Trek convention.
If Scientology works so well why does she need weight watchers to lose weight? Shouldn’t she have been able to overcome her decades long struggle with weight problems on her own? Bunch of crazy people
For real. At her level she should have like telekinesis or something. Food shouldn’t even be an issue!
She’s supposed to have telepathy to her original self at that level. The joys of living in Clearwater /sigh.
So CO$ can cure your cocaine addiction but not your weight problem?
Hello??? Right???
Yeah, she doesn’t seem like a happy, well adjusted, and enlightened person. For all the money she’s probably dumped into it and the promises they’ve made, maybe she should ask herself why she’s still struggling.
Cruise doesn’t seem like a happy person either. Actually he doesn’t seem like a person…
Exactly. And whatever happened to her Scientology-backed Organic Liaisons? She was touting her line of diet food as healthy and a sure way to lose weight. In fact, didn’t she at one point credit Organic Liaison with some of her past weight loss? That loon is cray-cray. But an endless source of inadvertent entertainment.
Lea is better off without her attention anyway. Crazy cult people.
Well..Kirstie can still just SIT ON Tom until he gives up if she wants to take him down the throne and become Scientology Papal herself, cool female one at that! LOL!
Kirstie delivers.
And Howard knows it, doesn’t he?
Kirstie Alley is a MESS. I used to think that she was just sloppy in terms of her personal life and I felt badly for her but with this Leah Remini crap she has shown herself to be a mean and vindictive bully. If Scientology is so great and cures all of one’s personal and mental health issues then why does she have so many issues with her weight? Why can’t she “find a man”?* Why is she so bitter and hold a grudge towards Leah? Why is she such a mess???
*I don’t actually think that it is shameful for anyone to be single, she has stated in previous interviews that she wanted to find someone…you’d think that Xenu would be able to send her someone to love.
Xenu just destroys relationships and family, it is very sad.
Why it didn’t cure her infertility. Is Parker Stevenson an SP now? Has he been alienated from their children?
What does OT stand for? In my world, it means either “over the top” or “off topic”. Neither of these seem to fit here. It’s a whole new lingo, this CO$ lark, ain’t it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_Thetan
Does this mean she has those sweet alien levitating skills now?
thanks for the link, Kiddo. but i swear i need a lot of mimosas and flatbread to get through just a few paragraphs of that article 🙁 too much jargon soup for me.
or as they say, reading it made me more UnClear then before.
maybe i should go for the julep instead.
Oh. My. Giddy. Aunt.
I can only think of one joke: “CO$: nobody puts Pig Latin in the corner.”
Lmfao I just howled
hahahaha
Sixer: just be glad for your innocence.
OT means Operating Thetan.
That last picture makes me think of the saying, “You get the face you deserve.”
Teehee!
How can she say she didn’t shun Leah…didn’t she tweet tons of bad stuff about Leah at the time?
And why can’t she just lose weight with her Thetan mind control????
Scientology, where the crazies are crazier than the craziest people on earth!
The most vulnerable people are easy marks; for cults, for abuse, for cons. That’s why I have some remaining sympathy for her. She is desperately seeking control where she is obviously feeling out of control.
There’s a reason why the highest profile celeb $ci’s all have rumors swirling about their personal lives or drug problems – the $ci folks claim to be able to cure it (and gayness). For example, like Kirstie’s drug addiction. And then that provides the perfect leverage to keep them in the “church”
Wow…you are a much nicer person than I am Kiddo! It’s just hard to feel sorry for these “movie star Scientologist” that are treated like gold, when you hear about the “everyday” people who are practically slaves….
You are effectively ruining my rep. See my new name, dammit.
Sorry, to ruin your rep, you a-hole!!!! Is that better?
In a previous interview with Stern, Kirstie told a batsh*t crazy story about reading Dianetics high on coke in Kansas and that’s what convinced her to join.
Despite all of that, she is an entertaining interview. I laughed.
Good for her for going all the way crazy. I hate it when people don’t fully commit.
LOL
Why would Jenny Craig want anything to do with her? Stupid marketing idea! I read that she went into some marketing scheme for her vitamins or shakes or something with them, too, which is beyond stupid of them to do.
I wish she’d go away and stay gone. Used to absolutely love her, too. She was my girl crush from the first time I saw her on Cheers until she went crazy.
She looks drunk and like a bum in that last pic. Kinda funny when you see the pic of Leah Remini looking so put together.
8 is when they find out about the intergalactic battle and re-homing of the thetans. So she’s still got something to look forward to.
Please tell me this^^ is from an episode of Star Trek. Please….
That’s what everyone says when they reach that level.
Paul Haggis said he thought it was a joke when it was revealed to him.
LOL… Oh for Goodness sake..intergalactic war??? Did they attend too many Sci-Fi Conferences??
“I think that people need to always — no matter what path they choose — the goal I hope would be to become more and more aware, and less insane.”
Oh dear.
Kirstie is pretty clearly one of those people who thinks that reality is whatever she says it is at a given time, and if the newest reality contradicts what she said and did earlier? Obviously, someone else must be lying or at fault.
Probably not worth mentioning but, Team Leah!
It’s interesting how someone at this supposedly hyper aware level of her “religion”, that she claims gets rid of all insanity, comes across as completely insane and deluded. One thing I’ve noticed with Scientoligists, is that they lie constantly. They deny facts that have been proven about their cult and rewrite history to fit their narrative. They deny that they practice disconnection, even though they do and they deny that the higher levels learn about Xenu, even though they do. She bullied and insulted Leah Remini on twitter and in interviews and everyone saw it. Now she denies shunning her? Whatever.
CO$ don’t cure bitchy.
I cannot wait until the HBO Documentary on COS comes out this year. The Church is going to flip the f out.
If it comes out. I’m sure C.O.S. will do everything to stop it.
I guess she advanced because her check finally cleared…
Seriously, though. I won’t mock their beliefs in Xenu, Bridge to Total Freedom, Space Opera or anything else (because frankly, we’re all holding some weird beliefs, come on now). But the money, the litigiousness and the SP policies are terrible (among others).
I just recently became aware of something called FreeZone – basically, they’re scientologists who accept all the things Hubbard taught but who object to the way the church is being run now and try to call it out. Overall, it’s an interesting group. Tony Ortega has written some stuff about them. They have quotes from Hubbard talking about how he wanted “the tech” to be free and shared freely after he died and they think that the current church isn’t doing that. I’ve heard stories about high-ranking members having to pay upwards of 100K to reach the “advanced” levels, which seems so far removed from almost all other religions out there.
The old Howard Stern would have called her out on her bs and point out that she is full of it. But howard Stern is such a PC Hollywood a** kisser these days the the just goes along with it.
Ok there is my Stern rant of the day. I can’t believe I used to like someone so much better when they were an inappropriate women exploiting pig.
Sure, she didn’t shun her or her fellow Scientologists.
And where is Tom Cruise with his daughter Suri? He hasn’t been seen with her all year, not one sighting in 2014. I’m sure he has seen her (I hope), but I wonder how often. He didn’t see her much in 2013.
I actually like Kirstie as a comic actor, I think she really is very funny. But her ties to Co$ have really blocked her career rather than helped her. She probably had at least a touch of the crazies in her personal life before Co$, but they deepened and extended it, bringing out the worst in her rather than the best. She’s stuck now, I’m afraid.
“I didn’t shun her, but if a lot of people are rejecting you, at some point you gotta ask, ‘What am I doing?’ I mean, that’s what I would have asked myself.”
So she didn’t shun Leah, but she did reject her?
L. Ron Hubbard, founder of Scientology (and science fiction writer, which really ought to be a HUGE red flag to people) estimated that Scientology couldn’t help about 2.5% of the population, i.e. about 2.5% of the population were “suppressives”.
Funny, isn’t it, how Scientology attracts so many suppressives? You’d think, if they’re so enlightened, they could weed them out a little better — but it’s always the “suppressive” who figures out that Scientology ain’t for them *first*.
Who cares? The Scientologists are all freaks. Nothing is right about this cult.
Operating Thetans (OT’s) are supposed to be superhuman, but obviously aren’t. So Kirstie is in effect saying “I’m not a fake fake superhuman, I’m a REAL fake superhuman!” Wake up and smell the scam, Kirstie.
Scientologists studying the OT levels are allowed to graduate to the next level when they can keep the needle of their E-meter (lie detector) still while being examined. The more experienced ones learn how to control their muscle tone and emotional response so the meter says what they want it to. Yet the Church keeps them from graduating (they don’t get to see the e-meter needle, a Church official does) until they wring enough money out of them. Sadly, most of them know this on some level, and yet continue pumping in the cash. Usually, the Church holds some sort of leverage (blackmail, family) against them. They also must pay for their levels in advance, and they know there are no refunds. Some “church!”