Piers Morgan is a tired old douchebag. I wish Britain would take him back, but I think we’re sort of stuck with him here in America. Can we come to some kind of agreement, Britain? We’ll keep Piers and you take half of the Kardashian-Jenner clan. How about that? Anyway, Piers was invited to the Oscars (to cover them) and he also got invites to some major parties, like the Weinstein Company’s pre-Oscar party the Saturday before the Oscars, and the Vanity Fair Oscar party. And he ended up running into Benedict Cumberbatch at both events. Only on Saturday night, Benedict said something mean about Piers behind his back, so no Piers HATES Bendy. Here are the relevant portions of Piers’ bitchy Mean Girl Oscar Diary.
Saturday night, The Weinstein pre-Oscar party
On a roll, I passed Benedict Cumberbatch on the way into dinner, an actor I’ve long admired on and off screen, and who my whole family, led by my mother, seem to adore. Last year, I interviewed him on the Oscars red carpet and he couldn’t have been more friendly or charming.
So I assumed he would greet my appearance with the same warmth that had drawn him over to my CNN cameras 12 months ago.‘Good luck tomorrow night, Benedict,’ I gushed. ‘Loved the movie.’
‘Thank you Piers,’ he replied, slightly less enthusiastically. ‘That’s kind of you to say.’
I walked on, then I turned back to see where my wife Celia was, and spotted Benedict and a bearded chap exchanging what looked like mocking glances at me. Celia, who’d been standing right next to them at the time, looked bemused when she reached me. ‘Did you say something to upset Benedict?’
‘No, why?’
‘Because I’m fairly sure I just heard him say “ODIOUS man” about you, emphasising the first word and rolling out the “o” for good effect.’ I felt a dagger pierce my trusting heart.
‘Fairly sure, or certain?’
‘99.9%. It could have been “Oh, delicious man,” but I think we both know that’s unlikely.’
I looked back at Benedict who caught my eye then glanced away sheepishly. I’ve no idea what might have provoked such new secret loathing. Keira Knightley, his co-star in The Imitation Game, can’t stand me after I berated her a few years ago for constantly moaning about the press – and for saying she has the world’s most annoying pout, which is just an indisputable fact. So maybe she poisoned his mind. Or maybe Benedict’s just reached this verdict all by himself, which of course he’s perfectly entitled to do. I’d just admire him rather more if next time, rather than shake my hand and exchange platitudes, he has the b**** to look me in the eye and say: ‘Go away Piers, you odious man.’
Sunday, at the Vanity Fair party:
We spied Joan and Jackie Collins in a booth together, and went over to exchange suitably luvvie hugs and air-kisses. Then I suddenly realised they were sitting with Benedict Cumberbatch.I blanked him, deliberately, coldly, and in a way that could leave no room for misinterpretation. Mr Cumberbatch needs to reflect on his duplicitous actions. If not for me, then for my mother who will be distraught when she reads this.
I’m sorry, but I find it funny that Piers Morgan is so butthurt. Piers Morgan IS an odious man but Benedict should have said that to Piers’ face. And I love that Piers is so lacking is self-awareness that he would actually be offended when someone says he’s odious. If you go and read Piers’ whole Oscar diary, it’s pretty funny too – he’s just name-dropping all of the cool people who said “hello” to him and I guess Benedict was the only one to say one mean thing about him. Piers should know by now: Bendy is the Queen Bee of Bitchy Mean Girls.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Noooooo!!!!!! Cumberbatch just looks like he has super dry skin.
yes, it looks like it’s about to flake off in one go, but isn’t shedding skin a common condition among reptiles?
/jk, jk, don’t kill me!
LOL Metamorphosis!! The NY Post hinted it already.
LOL
Assuming the story is true, Cumberbatch isn’t wrong!
(I’m sure Morgan has been called much much worse, lol.)
Doesn’t everyone call Piers Morgan an odius man? I always imagined children following him around on the streets shouting, “Odious Morgan coming through”.
“Odious man”
That is so bad ass. The dude is menacing.
I’m calling him Ben Cutabit@h from now on.
PS I personally think insufferable as&hole works better for Morgan
“Ben cutab@tch” Lol! With his vocab I’m sure he could rip anyone to shreds
Agreed. Calling Ben on his “duplicitous actions” ! Thats rich coming from Piers Morgan. What a turd.
Ugh. Go away Bendy and go away Piers. Can we have a Hiddles thread, please? As a birthday present to me? Pretty please?
Yes, I agree – hiddles post – and happy birthday!
Thanks!
**sighs** Go back to the last tagged Hiddles thread (Branagh)! There’s some lovely Red Nose Day links! (What that man can DO with a pair of specs 😉
Piers Morgan has thick skin (considering his career in the tabloids he’d have to) – so he’s just feigning this for the publicity.
And as for bitchybatch, that was tame.
Ha. I’m recovering of my Bendy fatigue faster than I expected.
Odious Man is the name of my next band.
Will you perform a new version of fish heads?
Can Bendy be in the video with you? Rolling around with odious sea creatures?
Excellent ideas! I might sing in a JAG-you-R, with fish heads in the front seat!
Can you also throw in a baby otter?
For you mia girl, absolutely. We’ll fill the trunk up with water and rocks.
That video better include tits.
Of course there will be tits, it’s hard to get by without a reason.
OHHHHH GEEEEEEZ!!!!!!! Now I can’t get “Fish Heads” song out of my head!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!! (jk!! jk!! lol)
Well I may not be Pier’s greatest fan but I feel Benedict’s rudeness was uncalled for and unnecessary. Lets’s face it this is not the first time there have been reports of Benny’s arrogance and uppity behaviour from others who have met him which is why he is not universality liked in the UK.
I have friends who say they love Sherlock but dislike the actor who plays him,
So Pier’s gets a pass for me on this one.
Piers gets a Pass is also a good name for a band or film, but you can keep that one. Maybe it could be about a naughty school boy.
like i said below, morgan starts fights for press, so…he’s trash
He was a blowhard on Wendy Williams a couple weeks ago… although Wendy did a good job shutting him down when he needed it.
Out of the loop. Who is Piers Morgan, I know he has some sort of chat show but I’ve never seen it, and what has he done to be so hated?
He was the editor of ‘The Mirror’ tabloid in UK for most of 90s/00s until he was sacked.
Moved to America and took over Larry King’s spot on CNN.
Is now the US editor of the DailyMail.com
Odious is too kind a description of him.
A Cumberbatch thread means more snow in Boston today. He seriously cursed us when he was here
sorry for the snowfall -perhaps Benny should be banned for poor weather inducement.
Fortunately, only the South Shore should be hit with anything. Where I am, there should only be a dusting (*crosses fingers*).
You know what, I agree with the lizard, Piers Morgan is odious all right.
I agree with Benedict, but I also think this self-important post touches on an important lesson that many fans had to learn the hard way this year.
Piers compared this recent interaction with one they shared on camera. Then he wondered what happened in between. It wasn’t time that made the difference, Piers. It was the cameras.
When an actor is ON CAMERA or in a very public place, even if they’re not in character, their personality changes. No matter how humble or smart or sweet they seem to be, they’re playing a version of themselves that probably doesn’t exist in private.
And good god, how hard is this to understand? They’re ACTORS. They gain fans for their ability to become someone they’re not, but somehow the same fans still fall for the public persona. When the persona is deliberately altered or cracks are exposed, it becomes a personal insult to them.
Sorry, I’m just still in awe of the fact that SO MANY people actually did believe they knew exactly who he was and what he wanted in life. They still do.
Funny how it took him half a year to act like he could stand his fiancée/wife.
When reality is radically different than the fairytale, it can awhile to adjust. His embarrassment added to the difficulty pulling off the farce. He knew the clock was ticking down until everyone knew the reason for the sudden engagement. His difficulty in pretending things were fine is understandable, especially as emotional as Bendy seems to be.
Maybe. I get what you’re saying, and I actually don’t disagree. But why marry someone that you’re that unsure of, such that you seem visibly repulsed by her?
Silly me. He has a reputation to uphold. I don’t think I’ve quite realized just how desperate he is for the attention and adoration of others until this comment. It sort of explains everything so much. I mean, I always thought he was a bit of an attention seeking posho with a gigantic chip on his shoulder. But I now think it’s that to a really great extreme. Cripplingly so.
Doesn’t excuse him from being an @$$ though.
I’m not justifying his words or actions and I agree, he shouldn’t feel obligated to marry someone because they’re carrying his child. I think he’s making things worse for himself in the long run. But, it helps me understand why it was impossible for him to keep his persona intact.
If he was nonchalant about becoming a father unexpectedly or was truly in love with Sophie, I doubt he would have looked so miserable those first couple of months after the engagement was announced. I think it was such a massive disappointment to see his life take a wrong turn that he was trying to save face best as he could by telling everyone (unconvincingly) of his love for TWILTWIPT and getting married shortly after that.
See, I was more saying that rather than own up like a normal human would, and just say, hey, this happened and we don’t really know each other that well, so perhaps we should hold off on getting engaged/married and see where this goes…
Instead, I think that he is SOOO concerned with his IMAGE, that he jumped in and used it, and is still using it, as PR, instead of thinking about how it affects those around him. I think it doesn’t help that she seems exactly the same way.
I do agree that that’s why he was saying those weird remarks about his TWILWIPT. He was trying to save face.
I don’t know what I’m trying to say here. I guess that I think they both prioritize their image above everything else. That we shouldn’t have been surprised that this happened the way that it did. I for one, never thought he was a Disney Prince, but I guess I never thought he was THIS extreme in his want of a perfect image.
Hey for all we know he hired someone or had Karon draw up a damage control plan and his advisors were telling him “this is what you need to do to ensure xyz type of image as an actor and potential leading man remains intact”. Hence the constant paps, the tabloids, the famewh**ing. Yes he’s going along with it but how willingly and how long he’ll put up with it? Your guess is as good as mine. Let’s not assume.
I bet Jude Law was a good case study for him too. And Hugh grant. It Sucks he’s in the same camp as Chris Brown too.
I guess it’s so disturbing to me because from videos for the first few months of them after the engagement he couldn’t even act like he was even concerned for her well being. Not like or love, but that he couldn’t be bothered with even pretending like he wasn’t completely indifferent to her. He treats strangers better.
Now, I don’t know their relationship dynamics, and she doesn’t come across as a great person, but for the love of god! She’s having his child. He screwed her. They went on public outings together. And you can’t even act as if you know her? And now you’re married?
That’s beyond bizarre.
@sighs
They look like they got married for tax benefits.
Sighs, I hear you and agree. I don’t understand it either — caring more about image than long-term happiness — but I have no desire to be an internationally famous actor either. The compromises that one has to make in order to achieve that level of success in an image-driven industry aren’t things I wrestle with. I think that finding an actor who doesn’t act like an A$$ when faced with the possibility of A-list status is probably rare. I’m more surprised at those like Keanu who manage to maintain a stellar rep even after achieving wealth, fame and critical acclaim.
I confess, I worry about our Hiddles if things go well for him in the next couple of years. Success can bring out the worst traits in people and I’ll be sad if his dark side begins to show.
Mtn- I hear you. I don’t dig too deep into the Hiddles stuff because I like him and would like to think he’s a decent person. Not a disney unicorn prince, just not a complete arsehole. He at least seems to have realized that publicity just for publicity’s sake isn’t necessarily a good thing. I dearly hope he continues in this vein. I don’t mind the shilling for work. Dance, dancing bear, dance. But I hope he’s watching this cumber-train-wreck and learning what not to do.
But the saving face or protecting his image part – I bet there is no one, not one single person among his family, friends or colleagues who doesn’t recognize this as strictly shotgun, something that has made him miserable. And among those family, friends and colleagues, I bet there are many who think, “You poor sucker. Got caught, didn’t you?” As far as Hollywood and the general public, I don’t think they give a rat’s rear end if an actor has a baby mama he doesn’t marry. This isn’t 1950 after all.
I certainly find it hard to understand marrying someone who treats you with such disdain as has been captured on camera. Just imagine what goes on in private. And by disdain I’m referring to both of them and their actions toward each other. Whatever the reason for the Bora Bora pics, staged or not, it’s hard to erase the image of the coldness and tension that preceeded it. That, and the fact that both have aged visibly in just a few months. True happiness would erase some years IMO.
Yep, I do hope that watching Ben’s train wreck has reinforced Tom’s commitment to continue in the privacy vein that he’s been in the past year or so, even if he’s not busy working on a project. It will be interesting to see how things play out over the next year as all his projects come to roost.
Claire! nailed it. The whole point of having PR is for them to tell you what you need to do because they’re the ones who have the know how.
Brittney B, pretty much although his persona is part of him (lbr this guy can’t hide crap), but the difference was also a year. Morgan was talking about them interacting on camera a year ago. The guy did go from occasional columnist to more frequent writer to position of power at the Daily Mail since then, wouldn’t shock me if he’s dogged a friend of BC’s over the last year.
this is absolutely accurate, and something fans of any celebrity would do well to remember.
@brittney b, spot on.
Yep, even if the persona reflects what is true about them, it’s only a facet of a multifaceted individual. It’s an oversimplified, perfected image of a flawed human being.
Always thought of BC as someone who doesn’t know when to shut up, so this comes as no surprise. I doubt Piers is truly butthurt though. He knows exactly what people think of him and he doesn’t care because that’s how he makes a living. Lying and provoking, hoping it turns into a story.
Odious does have a wonderful list of synonyms when searched for on Google.
nah. i agree in principle, but youre suggesting that people thought they knew him. im pretty sure most peeps are clever enough to know that they dont know the real personality of anyone they see in the public eye. to use cumbersnatch as an example, people are pissed that he is acting v different to the person he appeared to be for so long.
he seemed like a talented, down to earth, honest guy with a hate of celeb world. thats what people thought they knew about him. its hardly deep reaching personal stuff.
Johar, maybe I chose the wrong words, but I didn’t mean to imply (and I definitely didn’t say) that they thought they knew deep personal stuff.
This:
“he seemed like a talented, down to earth, honest guy with a hate of celeb world.”
is exactly what I was talking about. It’s a fair enough impression, and most of us had it… but the people who are gutted by the change seem to have believed it wholeheartedly, and regard it as a “betrayal” that he isn’t acting the same way he was before. Or they assume that he’s putting on an act now, but he wasn’t before. He always was.
Actually, it’s not only our (the fans) impression. Many of his colleagues and other people in the industry (directors, writers) used to enthuse about him, how nice he was, how genuinely lovely. Have we all been taken in or has fame gone to his head? I vote for the latter option. Happens to most of the so called celebs anyway.
but all this (drastical) change, we experience lately, begun in last november… hasn’t it? so i cannot say (just) b/c the fame… the people around him never make him such an a$$hole before, but this new situation, he looks like who feels uncomfortable with it, & his questionable attitude is his reply to all of this. like who wanna persecute everyone who may criticize him & his decisions… just wanted to be a good guy, who assumes the responsibility – but still cant handle it normally coz totally new for him.
No thanks, you can keep him and the kardashians in america.
As if he himself is any less odious. Pot calling the kettle black.
This! BC is also yuck.
^This. Morgan is odious but the Otter is just as insufferable.
Exactly Bea!
Benedict is annoying, but he hasn’t done things that have harmed other people in the way that Piers Morgan has.
Oh lunchcoma!
Plllleeeaaassseeee….
BC has said and done things just as bad…he is just passive aggressive about it where PM just lets it fly.
They both have their own ways of flip flopping and back pedaling also.
One big difference I think is PM doesn’t have the Kool Aid gang to back him up and make excuses for him…and I don’t think PM cares to really.
Not even going to go into details because possibly most people on here who have participated on the other BC threads have read them…reading his interviews and seeing some…with the last being him on that crap show Kelly & Michael. BC is on the same level as PM at this point.
They are both in the same game for the same reasons and this was a ‘Tabloid In Crowd’ tiff…
hehehehe,
They’ve both SAID terrible things. But Piers Morgan was involved in the phone hacking scandal, and a lot of people believe he lied under oath during the judicial proceedings.
This isn’t a defense of Benedict by any means. He’s been an ass lately. But there’s a difference between being an ass and being a likely criminal.
lunchcoma…
Eh…tabloid criminality….
It is all the same really…diff is that what BC has said and done hasn’t fallen under breaking any ‘laws’…
As I said BC and PM…same
Eh…BC still the kettle calling the pot black whatever way it is spun…
NOPE
morgan is editor at large of the daily mail. he regularly posts harmful things from a position of media authority and did it for years on cnn.
basically, anything bad benedict’s said over 10 years, Morgan has done in just one show or article, and under the guise of news
j says…
Bad things said are bad things.
As far as PM being a regular bs generator, sure. Not much more to be expected of PM.
BC has put his foot in his mouth enough and played his games to warrant the label of ‘Pot calling the kettle black’. PM may be a bigger kettle…but they are still both a kettle.
If BC continues with his bs as of the past 5/6 months…it will not take him long to be the same size kettle as PM.
Morgan says multiple offensive things in his newspaper column, which a lot of people read, on a bi-weekly basis….
But yeah, hehehehe, I can’t with that. Morgan mingles his offensive opinions with genuine news, and that’s what makes it more harmful. He harassed and humiliated guests on his CNN show for ratings, FFS.
still NOPE, hehehehe
i know enough about morgan to know just how harmful he’s been, how many people he’s harassed just on twitter alone. it was reported after his show was cancelled that he abused his staff
he was also fired from the mirror for running completely fake photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners, and who knows what other serious news he’s since falsified
so, no, dumb celeb is never going to equal abusive, dishonest reporter who uses his media power to harass and influence
Nice theatricals An and J says…
lunchcoma made a good point as that there is no excusing BC’s actions, by putting an opinion of PM’s actions out there.
I also know enough about PM, CNN, media/PR and BC to know when games are being played…by both sides…which is how I see this.
Using PM’s past and present tactics to underestimate BC’s behavior is just plain smoke in this situation to diffuse BC’s actions…which BC/his PR is greatly relying on as he has so much in the past with other issues. So, BC has not qualms if anyone mistakes what he may or may have not said or acted. That is playing/spinning/using the same tactics as PM does. It’s one of the oldest trick in the books.
This is how I see it.
Continue to throw up smoke and mirrors to contribute to the actions of BC.
I’m not buying into the game any longer.
didn’t excuse BC’s actions, and i’ve always acknowledged his mouth. just pointing out your hyperbole.
placing celebs saying something bad/stupid/ignorant on the same level as someone who wiretapped phones, harassed people directly and for long periods of time (ie Mock on his show and twitter) and falsified serious, non-tabloid news stories is literally the same as equating a punch with a murder.
Yes, j says…no, you were not excusing BC’s actions…but you were attempting to cover what BC did with pointing out over and over what PM has done… In this case, I do not buy it. That tactic is used to distract from noticing what is going on with the other side. It just doesn’t work with me.
From the comparison angle of BC is currently only an actor who has only said some bad things in the past 10 years, with PM being someone who used to be a perceived influence on world events and has done awful things is more of an attempt to cover actions of BC, plain and simple. It passively ignores what BC did in this situation, and also what he has said in the past, plain and simple.
A litterbug is a litterbug regardless of their social or public standing.
Bad things said are not judged by the amount said…or they are if we go by your comparison theory…which is how BC has gotten away with diarrhea of the mouth up until now.
My take on the term is not hyperbole. My take on the term is not the same as equating a punch with a murder. Why? Because at this point they both are celebrities who want to keep that going…by whatever means will work for them.
So, BC’s action is on the same level of class as PM = No class.
BC has said dumb shit, and i’ve said that repeatedly plus everyone already knows that information here, so please stop pushing that strawman. also, crappy pr tactics and being rude is not harmful.
actual breakdown:
BC=celeb who has said offensive shit.
PM=journo who has said offensive shit, falsified news, harassed and wiretapped people.
“A litterbug is a litterbug regardless of their social or public standing.”
A celeb doesnt have the same level of media influence as a journalist who is an editor at a major paper. bc in the entertainment news, but morgan has the ability to control it, and beyond entertainment
“Bad things said are not judged by the amount said…”
If you’re insisting on equating them full stop, yes, frequency of occurrence matters, but i can see it as being nitpicky. morgan willingly makes a living off saying bad things would be more apt
“So, BC’s action is on the same level of class as PM = No class.”
a fair opinion but not what you’ve been arguing
Fyi, this isn’t about defending bc. he’s a big boy. It’s the trivialization of what morgan has done that I just don’t get. morgan has harmed people in a way bc never has, period
Actually j says…you are the one who is arguing.
You are arguing my opinion against facts…yet underplay the facts of my side with the facts of your side with many theatricals, analyzing/patronizing/putting down of my position, putting down the worse of the two evils, etc…
More smoke…which makes for faulty reasoning and clear debate that ironically you seem to want…as long as you are viewed as the superior and in the right.
Your opinion with all the facts clearly does not agree with the statement/opinion of – As if he himself is any less odious. Pot calling the kettle black. – and how I agree with this statement and how I recognize it.
That is fine.
I do not have a tunnel vision when it comes to BC, PM, celebrity and media.
Your right, BC is a big boy. He knows how to act in a public setting. He knows how celebrity interviews go, should and does have control over what he says in them, and to a certain extent how things are written on what he says.
Time for him to start acting like the big boy he is and deal with it instead of relying on others to do it for him. Especially since others are not doing the job very well.
“As if he himself is any less odious. Pot calling the kettle black. – and how I agree with this statement and how I recognize it.”
but yet–“BC has said and done things just as bad” and your next reply in response to someone pointing out morgan has harmed people in ways bc has not. Which is what I replied to and what we’ve clearly been discussing, not a fair personal opinion on who is more unpleasant
although, it’s on me that i just noticed you’ve been jumping around as to what you meant anyway–first, equally harmful, then it became equal media tactics, then famewhore-ness, then class level. Now it’s they’re equally unpleasant and i’m clearly deluded, so my bad to everyone for even carrying this nonsense on. i should have known.
Yes j says…there are various reasons when debating, so jumping around will occur.
My and others opinions that concur are fair opinions given the circumstances.
Yes, seeing as you have a very narrow understanding of the difference of opinion and fact, and debate vs. argument…your bad…you should have known.
oh, that was not for you, but other posters. i meant i should have realized what you were pulling, attacking me and my argument construct over the content and repeatedly changing the original meaning of what you said.
sorry, it was hard for me to re-read your comments with all these smoke and mirrors and straw at first, lol
Oh j says…it was for me….
AH I get it…you are pulling a BC and just ‘whispering’ in my vicinity by quoting my words for the rest of the forum to read, but not for me to read or respond to.
It bugs you so much that you are just at the point where you cannot even come up with your own words for your own arguments…you are using mine.
Oh, and your use of straw man in a previous response is also incorrect. I’ve made very clear identification in all of my responses. Your responses are clearly the straw man tactics by far.
As the person who started the whole shebang I think I can safely say that they are odious in two completely different arenas and it is useless trying to compare their exact level of odiousness.
This sounds sooo snobbish to me, even if Piers really is an “odious man” to say it within someone’s earshot is just ugh.
He keeps chipping away at what little I had left to like about the man. I swear I want him and the Kardashians to quietly go away now.
I think Piers is annoyed at the two faced duplicitous encounter. He relishes people being annoyed with him, but he always hates them being two faced and he always says so publicly.
And he is an unrepentant, show off name dropper. It’s almost impossible to read any of his books for all the name dropping. Loves it.
^ This. He is who is he is and is not ashamed of it – he revels in his notoriety and thats why i kinda like him. He doesn’t hide it, unlike most of Hollywood and in particular Bendy given his recent actions.
um, it wasn’t a two-faced encounter
he’s talking about BC being polite a year ago, but cool as soon as spoke him to him this time. Morgan approached BC with a compliment and BC accepted and then walked away, the polite response to someone you don’t care for
that being said, morgan is known for starting fights for press, so…lol
One of the most awesome sentences I have ever read in print “Benedict was sitting with Joan and Jackie Collins”. OMG! That is the menage a twa! I would love to watch. Can you imagine the archness of them? LOLOL.Piers Morgan, you are a tool.
kri – did you see the photo of them together?
http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/actor-benedict-cumberbatch-actress-joan-collins-and-writer-news-photo/464225616
“Benedict Cumberbatch called Piers Morgan an ‘odious man’”
Where’s the lie?
This is hilarious, is this for real?? You sure this isn’t an Onion story?
This Morgan dude sounds like a 13-year-old girl in junior high, I mean this can’t be for real!?
I think it’s funny that he thinks BC will be all upset because he “blanked him.”
They’re both Brits so should I call this Secondary School S**t?
Edit: Alliteration!
Benedict is not wrong.
Probably, it’s a case of Benedict initially being pleasant to a person he didn’t know much about. Then he learned about Piers’ involvement in the UK hacking scandals and realized he didn’t want to talk to this guy even socially.
Given BC’s age, i’d be very surprised if he didn’t know who Piers Morgan is.
PM was the youngest tabloid editor in UK of a really odious tabloid. He was also a very public self promoter. If a news channel wanted a quote, PM was your man.
He frequently brags publicly about his famous encounters, parties and relationships.
And finally, he had a long standing column in the weekend magazine of the daily mail. The DM, is the tabloid of choice for BC’s type of people.
All that before you get to the hacking scandal.
BC would have lived under a rock NOT to know who PM was.
And it’s really astonishing that his career has gone so well in the US because he left UK in disgrace, and is roundly despised by most people.
“Probably, it’s a case of Benedict initially being pleasant to a person he didn’t know much about. Then he learned about Piers’ involvement in the UK hacking scandals and realized he didn’t want to talk to this guy even socially.”
Everything wrong with tumblr summarised in this one sentence.
A little OT-Mr. Sophie Hunter-Benedict Cumberbatch called-he wants his body back. (Sorry-the snow’s getting to me). Mtnrunner-totally agree Re:the clock ticking down to the point where everyone knew this was shotgun. He just made it worse on the RC at the Oscar’s going on about planning the wedding before she was pregnant. Talk about blowing his credibility. BTW-Piers is odious, but I think that’s his job.
I lost any sympathy I might have had for Piers after I red the is opinions about Keira.
What a couple of d*ck-waving little schoolboys. What’s next? A fistfight in the cafeteria?
Naw. Food fight.
They’ll be throwing octopi.
I’m honestly not sure what the problem is. Piers made unkind comments about Benedict’s recent costar, who he seems to like. He presumably didn’t make those comments to her face. They were far less kind and far more the indisputable truth. I don’t know how he expects to make personal comments about others but never have them make comments about him.
(And fair’s fair. If Piers and Benedict and Sophie and Leonardo DiCaprio and Ariana Grande and Gwyneth Paltrow and every other celebrity I’ve snarked about ever end up at a party with me and one of them mutters to another that I’m a gossipy jerk, I’d say they’re within their rights.)
Piers made those comments about Keira in **2007** Benedict has been at least cordial to Piers since then. So what changed?
I think Piers is just trying to start something.
Probably nothing. Piers has always been an asshole. Benedict has apparently always been arrogant and smarmy. He’s probably been polite to his face and snarky behind his back as long as he’s known him, though working with Kiera might have intensified those feelings.
I suspect that there are a lot of other people who despise Piers Morgan who aren’t interested in openly insulting him. Benedict was just the one dumb enough to be overheard.
I think Piers has his finger on the pulse. Last year BC was adored by all and sundry while at the Oscars, so Piers lauded him. This year BC has been a pain in the a*se, so Piers is joining the chorus. That’s all.
As for BC, he’s nesting now, so hopefully we should be done until the Sherlock convention. Hopefully.
he had an argument with her about her attitude to the press -face to face criticis is fine with me but calling people names behind their back is far worse in my books.So childish.
Piers Morgan’s side is never the right side, ha! He trashes people all the time in his columns, not to their faces.
Aaamazingly convenient his wife just happened to be eavesdropping Cumberbatch’s conversation at just the perfect time.
BC is pissing me off lately but he has shown his disdain for journalists before so this is a pre-existing condition. People are using this as an excuse for saying that he is really a douche in all aspects but nah. He just hates journalists. He’s been burned too many times due to his foot-in-mouth syndrome and I’m sure he will be burned in months to come.
That, too. Like I said, Morgan recently got power at the Daily Fail.
I kinda wonder that the reason th was invited to their wedding was because there was so much fan girl discussion about the two of them.
I was wondering along those lines too. Although, wouldn’t it be hilarious and more explosive had he invited Eddie and Hannah? Had he? I wasn’t around when it happened.
I saw a YT vid on Tumblr today of bc doing junkets and this poor journo just gave him a very quick round of either/or ‘Hitchcock or kubrick’ etc.. Little bit of silly fun that every actor gets asked and douchedonkey gets all pissy calling it ‘reductive bullshit’. This poor interviewer looked really quite awkward and dame cumberbatch looked like an arse.
When I read the YT comments I expected them to be of the ‘what a dick’ ilk, instead they’re along the lines of ‘Ooh he’s so eloquent and beautiful’ ..wtf.
The best comments were Tumblr generated – “oh it must be so difficult to just get asked the same questions over and over again’ … Whut? Boo hoo diddums, it sucks to be you. You get to sit on your arse in a plush hotel room and be paid thousands and thousands of pounds to repeat yourself about the overrated film you were in. Go cry to some nurses getting paid £12 a week in a&e to be puked and shit on.
I think I’d call the fact that we had alan Turing exchanged for a constant tabloid narrative on your dull and jobless hook up as an Oscar campaign, ‘reductive bullshit’, but then that’s just me.
Piers is a dick. Everyone knows this. But unfortunately, the last six months has proved cumberbatch to be one too.
This! I read yesterday how Kevin Bacon said he’s fed up with actors who complain about their celebrity, that he’s very glad to be famous and reap all the benefits.
BC spent 10+ years in obscurity, he’s famous for, like, 5 minutes and he’s already moaning. Shut up already!
Morgan’s wife thought she heard him say “odious man” and she could have been wrong. In a crowd of people at a party, everyone yakking. So I’m going to err on the side of Benedict.
Even if she was a !00% sure I would still side with Benedict because Piers Morgan is an absolute odious asshole.
People will always side with the other person over Piers Morgan.
Maybe she heard odious because that’s what she expected to hear, knowing Piers.
So I went down the rabbit hole on Tumblr and found an interesting little blog called itsabostonthing. There’s a post by cocalink that, I swear, really IS THE Comet Sophie. It’s Viniq Shimmery Liquor and I’m trying to find availability. I live south of Boston so if any of my fellow Bostonions/Boston area residents know then please share. Thanks!
i’m too lazy to look for this PM guy, but according to your comments, he seems to me someone, who has never created any valuable, human character developing thing, just using others’ names to get the attention, like whose words so significant, that everyone has to listen/believe to him. to him, who has built his “fame” to ruin different people’s reputation, who raises then outscores them to prove: they are also fallible human being. (wow, you don’t say, now tell sg new for me.)
& i also join to the commenters’ insights: unnecessary, childish reactions from both side.
(but why surprised, whose working as a gossip-monger, when got a treatment like that? ppl would think pros have enough experience & intelligence to overcome a situation like this one.)
Jeez, such drama! Piers needs to grow some balls himself and stop acting like a little spoiled boy.
That’s the nicest thing anyone’s ever said behind Pier’s back.
Benedict and his wife are two of the more unfortunate looking people I’ve ever seen.
I don’t see his appeal at all.
@Ash
Can we assume you just signed with Ford?
Piers always reminds of George Sanders a British who always played very seedy characters. He was a nasty piece of work in real life. He is best known to have been one of the many husbands of Zsa Zsa Gabor.
I would argue that he is best known for having played Addison DeWitt in “All About Eve” and Rebecca’s cousin Jack Favell in “Rebecca.”
That is fair. He was great in those movies. I forgot about them. He had great cad roles.
BC doesn’t know when to shut up really! He is now a gossip guy and shoves his “private” life in everyone’s face.
I used to really like benedict but this is just another instance of him just being so full of himself. If he doesnt like piers no issue but at least say it to the face instead of skulking around and being rather cowardly. Piers may be a pest or whatever but i dont think he was in the wrong here – benedict seems to think that he is god’s gift to hw etc – well until he has major film hits i think he sd tone down the arrogance etc
I think Benedict is too far gone up his own you-know-what and can’t come back from it. I think he will always have his arrogance now. Something happened to change his character; or, rather, arrogance and self-absorption were always part of his character, but they became much more pronounced with time and fame. I was enchanted with him up until a year ago, but now he has become odious himself. It’s been sad to watch.
This is not a commentary on his remark about Piers Morgan, though. Benedict was right about that. And we’ve all probably said stuff behind peoples’ backs that we wouldn’t have wanted them to hear. I’ll give BC a break on this particular incident. Not on his overall unlikeability, though. He’s really gone bad, as in spoiled like fruit.
“Odious man”? Jeez, I think Ben was being NICE!
First off, who does Piers think he is airing this when A. He’s not even 100% sure it was said, B. It was said in a private conversation and C. why would you want to alienate Ben permanently?
Highlighting that this MIGHT have been said about you, Piers, only points to what an A$$hole you really are, it doesn’t reflect poorly on Ben. Only that he’s a good judge of your character.
Your not the new Kitty Kelly and you only make yourself look like a hysterical little B**ch by trying to gain sympathy this way. As Joan Rivers would say “Oh grow up!” and be a professional.