I don’t know what’s happening to me, but I’ve been going through a stage where I don’t immediately hate everything coming out of Madonna’s mouth. Is it just me or does she actually seem a bit calmer? Yes, she’s still flashing her butt at the Grammys, but her interviews are coming off as reflective, a little bit sad and interesting. Madge sat down with the NYDN recently to talk about her new album, feeling nostalgic, why she ends up with younger guys and how Kanye West is the new Madonna.
Madge thinks Kanye is the new Madge: “Kanye is the new Madonna. Kanye is the black Madonna. We know, and recognize, that we have that in common. We’re comrades in the envelope-pushing genre.”
Showing her butt at the Grammys: “Bitch, this is what my ass looks like — show me what your ass looks like when you’re 56. I take care of myself. I’m in good shape. I can show my ass when I’m 56, or 66 — or 76. Who’s to say when I can show my ass? It’s sexism. It’s ageism. And it’s a kind of discrimination.”
She’s still vulnerable sometimes: “I’m only human. I’d like to get to the point where nothing can shake me. Sometimes I’m there, sometimes I’m not.”
Her new album is about a bad breakup? “When I started writing the record, I had just broken up with somebody. (Likely either Brahim Zaibat or Timor Steffens)
She’s not just into younger guys: “It’s just what happens. Most men my age are married with children. They’re not datable. I’m a very adventurous person and I also have a crazy life. I’m a single mother. I have four children. I mean, you have to be pretty open-minded and adventurous to want to step into my world. People who are older, and more set in their ways, are probably not as adventurous as someone younger.”
Ageism: “People have always judged me, and given me s–t about one thing or another. Now they’re giving me s–t about age. It’s bull—t. And mostly I hear it from women. I feel I should be hearing support — like, ‘Good for you.’ It’s like everything else. I’m opening doors for women behind me who one day won’t have to deal with this s–t that I deal with.”
I think she’s kind of right about Kanye being the new Madonna. It used to be that Madonna was the queen of controversy. Nowadays, people just… don’t really care, right? Now Kanye is the one. Everyone either loves him or hates him and you can create massive flame wars by simply defending him or slamming him.
As for Madonna’s habit of dating younger guys… “Most men my age are married with children. They’re not datable.” At first I was like, “How rude, she would burned at the stake if she was a man and said that about dateable women!” But I think she means she’s not going to date married men. Which is actually a good call. Still, she should just admit that she likes dating younger guys because she wants to steal their souls and drink their blood.
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It sounds like she needs someone who will fit in to her life. She isn’t looking to make a life together.
There would be a large amount of compromise managing two sets of children, two busy jobs.
I’m not sure if Madge was that reflective but that’s what it sounds like to me. Men her age have lives they don’t want to give up or put on hold.
Most men her age have grandchildren. Madonna just needs to be real and say she loves younger dick, because truly, who doesn’t?
Most men her age want to date a younger woman. They aren’t looking for someone her age. Heck women in their late 30s/early 40s have issues with this.
Truth. At the same time what on earth do you have to talk about when you’re 56 and he’s 26? When she was 26 there weren’t cell phones and people played music with cassettes and watched movies in the theater or on VHS that they had to rent. Twenty six years olds today have never not had a cell phone, had DVDs, never used cassettes, rented online…I mean, there is no cultural relevancy to bridge conversations on. She probably hears Star Wars and thinks Harrison Ford, they hear it and think Natalie Portman.
I know a 60 year old woman who dates 40 year old men. Needless to say, not much talking is involved. LOL
Speaking of Harrison Ford — he married someone about half his age.
What do you imagine they talk about?
I have this idea that she doesn’t converse much, she just orders the guy around. But maybe I’m wrong there.
+1 on the GRANDchildren. She’s just trying to make herself seem younger than she is.
OTOH, I wonder if the idea that older men always want to date younger women is not a stereotype? I have several 60-ish single male friends, and they are all looking for women in their own age range. I had even suggested to one who is not having much luck that he broaden his horizons and try some a date with someone in a younger age bracket, and he said he isn’t interested in younger women as they wouldn’t have anything in common to talk about.
LOL In her financial and social and celebrity circles in New York and California, I guarantee the majority of the men her age are on their second or third marriages and are married to trophy wives and have young children at home still. So in that context, she’s not lying.
Maybe you could introduce them to madonna, chaine
this. this gave me a much need smile today. thank you @Notleo
That first picture is BRUTAL.
Come to think of it, all of her recent photos are… She sort of looks contagious, as if you could catch some gnarly, plastic disease from her. Seriously, I’d be afraid to stand too close to that mess.
That photo gives me the willies.
I’d rather have my face shape and wrinkles than those weird cheeks.
People aren’t giving madonna crap about aging; they’re giving her crap about aging gracefully (or the lack thereof). There really comes a time in life that your brain develops and you realize that you can’t do the stupid stuff you used to do before and you leave said stupid stuff to the younger kids. Madonna is trying to hold on to every single shred of youth, including the stupidity. No one needs to see your ass – no matter how in shape it is – because you could be someone’s grandmother. Have some decorum.
Exactly. There is nothing wrong with aging, it’s to be preferred to the alternative. But when you can’t just let it happen, when you claw and grab onto every vestige of youth, you become a joke. It’s possible to age and still be attractive and sexy (Helen Mirren), but you have to accept it.
Helen Mirren does not look like she’s had any work besides a great bra and she’s more apt to get a young guy in bed than Madonna WITHOUT their thinking there’s gold at the end of the vagina waiting for them.
Annie Lennox also comes to mind. She is classy, gorgeous and is aging gracefully and beautifully and her talent is still top notch. She blew my away at the Grammy’s, Annie just rocks.
I actually have no need to see the ass of any 20 year women at a concert either. Decorum should apply regardless of age.
I agree. Dress and conduct yourself with some class. That applies to any age.
Thank you. I don’t care how old or tight your ass is, I don’t need to see it, not on stage, not on video, not on a RC. The current path of increasingly sexualized images these women present to the world – please tell me where does it end? Because as far as I can tell, the only thing left is to actually have sex on stage. There is a place for that, it is called a porn video. I don’t object at all to being sexy and powerful, I also don’t have any objection to erotica (most porn is a different matter and a longer discussion) but I really do not believe that in order to sell music you need to go to these lengths, and there are successful female artists out there right now demonstrating that it is possible to not go down the trashiest route.
Gurl, thank you.
entirely agree lilac, it s not about age, the pornified stage outfits of many young female singers are pretty gross too. I don’t see the ed sheerans and sam smiths wearing bondage style gear (nor do I want to I hasten to add…), just effing sing without dressing like a trollop ladies if, of course, you can actually sing.
I’m alone and team madge on this one. The fact is that she’s never had “decorum” and she introduced porn to pop. Why does her essence change just because our culture says it’s granny time for all women? She’s obviously wealthy enough to dissappear but enjoys her work. It’s scientifically evident that humans remain sexual past 40. Why is her proactive pop style an issue now when it’s made her wealthy and iconic?
Who said there is a prescribed way to age?
Every older woman (and man) who doesn’t prescribe to the indoctrinated societal view of how they should age pushes the envelope for the rest of us being free to age however we choose.
Yeah, I agree. It used to be that you had to stop wearing short skirts at 35 and cut your hair short at 40 in order to “age gracefully”. My elderly mom recently told me my shoulder length hair is getting too long for my age! (42) Madonna will always be tacky and sort of narcissistic but I actually think she has a point.
Funny you bring up hair, because I have worn short hair since I was in high school and now in my early 30’s my late 20 something coworkers are so fearful to wear their hair short because they think it is for “old women” only. It horrifies me because I live in a major city and I felt like when I lived in the Southern US they at least were more open about hairstyle. It boggles my mind how the whole short hair is only for older/old women is a thing. Personally, I feel long hair that isn’t well maintained looks dated aka 1970 even if these girls are in their 20’s. I guess everyone has a different perception.
LAK, exactly
She is clearly a byproduct ( especially given her profession ) of a society that is obsessed with youth. Youth is desired and aging- especially if you are a women is to be avoided at all costs even though that’s impossible! Look at the message we are sent everyday about it. We don’t allow women to age gracefully here, they need to fight the hands of time at all cost. Including butchering our faces. When your whole life has been about your image in the public eye it must be terrifying to lose it. Even non-celebrity women are given the impression that once you hit 30 you are over the hill and lose your desirability as you progress in age. In my opinion Madonna is a perfect example of how society is so cruel to women. Yes it’s on her to overcome it and accepted it , but I think she needs to be given some more slack.
Define “aging gracefully”. Must we all walk around in capri pants and pastel tops once we hit a certain age? I think we must account for personality even in age. Madonna was always one to push boundaries, it would be a tragedy if she stopped merely because wrinkled female skin offends some people. Incidentally I never see these people when Mick Jagger performs shirtless concerts. Its just deeply engrained sexism that even people who consider themselves progressives have no shame propagating. You do you, Madge.
Throw some $600 strappy sandals all with the capris and see how many compliments you get. Lower legs and ankles can be sexy.
I’m not offended by wrinkled skin. I’ll get there someday myself. I am offended that we’re offended by wrinkled skin and our inability to understand that each age in life has its joys. She is a millionaire tens of times over and instead of taking time off to enjoy and be with her children she is an aging workaholic that refuses to allow them to be the spotlight of her life.
I’d say this about men, too. How much money is enough? I ONLY work to have the money to spend time with family and friends.
Haa. Now the problem is that she works. Damn these greedy women who won’t just bury their ambition next to the afterbirth.
Miss Guest, it is how you imagine, you will spend time when you are “old”? you will be very surprised, that active life does not end at 30:) (or 40, or 50, or 60 or 70 or 80, etc)
Note the “millionaire” thing. If I’m rich why WOULDN’T I spend my time with my family? Isn’t the whole point of having money so that you can live and enjoy life? I don’t work because I love getting up early, driving in crap traffic, sweating layoffs, I work to pay my bills. If I could spend all my time with the people I love I’d be doing that. Its why people talk about what they’d do if they win the lottery. Well, she won it. Time to enjoy the millions and the people around you.
Btw, since when did we start treating kids and our significant other like pets where they require only as much of our time as we deem to give them?
No one forced her to have kids or be in relationships. She’s had abortions, she could have a few more.
I’m late but you’re very right. Males in rock or pop are doing much worse (Steven Tyler could be Madonna’s father), and yet it’s the woman that has to stop because to be a female sex object means to be immaculate.
Thanks for this. totally agree.
There’s some kind of tyranny about how women should age- “gracefully”- or whatever. I myself hope to age gracefully ie no butt-flap-pants ‘cuz i can’t pull that off *now,* but i mean, she’s Madonna. I kind of love her these days for still being out there, doing Madonna.
I’m tired of the whole ageism/Madonna conversation, so I’m skipping that. I will point out that she’s unrealistic even when describing men her age. As Notleo said above, most men her age have grown children and many have grandchildren, but she just can’t admit that.
I tried to find something in her interview that I could relate to, and I did. I also wish I could get to the point where nothing anyone else thought about me could shake me up, and sometimes I feel like I’ve got it, but sometimes I feel crushed by a deliberately mean remark. I wonder if you ever completely get there.
And many men her age and her celebrity status are divorced. Her first husband has been there, too. There are men she could be with, they’re just not attractive enough for her ego.
Salma Hayak met her billionaire in her late thirties and beat out Linda Evangelista for the old dude. Pierce Brosnan married his kids nanny (who’s wonderfully chubby) in his late 40s.
Lots of people get married their age. She doesn’t want to and that’s okay. Just admit it.
WHAA!?! Pierce Brosnan certainly did not marry his kid’s nanny. Research from Wikipedia says: He was married to actress Cassandra Harris, who after eleven years of marriage died of ovarian cancer. Eleven years later he married journalist Keely Shaye Smith and they are still together to this day.
Sorry to go at you like this, I know you don’t mean to offend, but I love Pierce Brosnan partly because of his respect and love for his partners, to say that he married his kid’s nannie!?! ARGBGF!!
I think you’re thinking of Robin Williams. HE married his first son’s nanny, and went on to have 2 children with her.
Men her age also have a ton of baggage as does she. That’s part of the problem. The other is that like she says she still has lots of steam. Older men don’t. Or not many anyway.
Heck, most men lose their steam in their late 30’s, so if so, imagine what her 50 year old prospects look like? I can’t imagine madonna with a man with a pot bellied man who has had two divorces and likes his routine.
Exactly!!! So she may be vain– she has earned it. I would like to see her stop touring however and take some time out to enjoy her life more. She is typical Class A though– she cannot slow down…she will die from the boredom.
There is a balance though. She needs to come up with something else besides being in a studio or adopting in Malawi. She has done work with children’s orphanages though– she should do more for underprivileged youth here though,..
I get the feeling since she is such a control-freak though she will only give her time and money when she has complete control.
I don’t blame her for never wanting to marry again either– why should she? Guy Richie may have put up,with her demanding ass which not everyone can do– but he walked away with MILLIONS.
I love Madonna– I feel she deserves happiness and just needs to find the right type of man for her and something else to do with her time.. I have been reading that the reviews for her new album are surprisingly very good.
We shall see!
I don’t agree with the Kanye is the new Madonna comment. She is forgetting her earlier years. She was kind of cute and accessible when she started out. Desperately seeking Susuan. Material Girl. Marriage to Sean Penn. It wasn’t until that Sex book of hers that she tried to be edgy. I guess she feels that she and Kanye are both misunderstood Artistes who are pushing the envelope something. Ugh.
Madonna mentioned something I can relate to and that’s the difficulty of dating “after a certain age”. I was out in the dating pool in my late 30s – early 40s, and I found it to be a much harder experience than in my 20s. Maybe it was just me. It really sucked.
some things have to do with age, but not about looking old. if you are over 50 and you still feel the need to rebel and shock like you are a teenager from a very conservative home you are embarassing yourself.
look at Eminem, he is still stuck in his “i was hurt by two women and now i hate all of them” persona. if it had been a phase when he was very young i could shrug it off but now its simply embarassing and wrong.
both need to act their age.
Madonna also needs to understand that a relationship takes more than one person. why would someone give up everything to be with her? she cant be that great, no one is. in a relationship you have to make compromises and she is not willing to. that is what she is talking about with men her age not being dateable. of course they are not when they prefer a stable life to come home to and Madonna is undateable for them.
This. If you’re behaving the same way you did in your 20’s at her age you’re not fighting ageism, you’re just showing a lack of maturity.
Does a woman her age really need to make headlines for flashing her ass on the red carpet? Wouldn’t you prefer to make headlines for something with more substance?
Exactly!!! So she may be vain– she has earned it. I would like to see her stop touring however and take some time out to enjoy her life more. She is typical Class A though– she cannot slow down…she will die from the boredom.
There is a balance though. She needs to come up with something else besides being in a studio or adopting in Malawi. She has done work with children’s orphanages though– she should do more for underprivileged youth here though,..
I get the feeling since she is such a control-freak though she will only give her time and money when she has complete control.
I don’t blame her for never wanting to marry again either– why should she? Guy Richie may have put up,with her demanding ass which not everyone can do– but he walked away with MILLIONS.
I love Madonna– I feel she deserves happiness and just needs to find the right type of man for her and something else to do with her time.. I have been reading that the reviews for her new album are surprisingly very good.
We shall see!
“does a woman her AGE really need to make headlines for flashing her ass on the red carpet? ”
Josefa this is Madonna we are talking about, she did this in her 20’s 30’s 40’s and now in her 50’s.. age has nothing to do with it, Personality , ego etc DO!
Go on Madonna!!!!! Yayyyy!!!!
I like this interview. Thank you Madonna for being an iconoclast. She’s a rare one and I agree that she has an influence on society that can help expand cultural norms and help other women age however we please.
If she was really brave wouldn’t she stop the excessive surgery and just look beautiful for her age? She could get some subtle stuff done and take good care of herself, but look like a person in her fifties. Is it really that courageous to have fifty face lifts, a gazillion fillers and botox ? Too much plastic surgery and dressing like a twenty something doesn’t seem brave, it seems desperate and afraid.
divorce rates are ridiculously high, poor excuse madge. just admit you like them young and easily disposable.
Actually, Brahim, after around three years together, dumped her. Back then, in interviews, she would say she saw herself wanting to get married again. The songs in her album clearly show she was hurt by him and felt used for “a bit of fame and fortune,” lyrics in a song, Heartbreak City.
She was delusional that a 26-year-old was not going to outgrow his relationship with a 50-something-year-old woman.
i didn’t know. but yeah, 26/50 is a massive age gap, and i’m one of those people who has very little problem with age differences in relationships.
The same is happening to me, Kaiser. Should we say we are Madonna apologists, or is too soon? I don’t know, she does sound reflexive, and a little bit, I don’t know, sad? Like she’s…not regreting, but lamenting the way some things in her life turned out. I know she says she doesn’t care A LOT, but here, it sounds like she really does.
She’s an adventurous, famous, rich woman..and dating men her age just won’t be fun. They might be too serious…thus dating younger, more naïve, fame whores are the thing to do at her age.
Maybe she is not the powerful popstar she used to be, but she still is Madonna, and I don’t know how many men of her age could deal with her success. Probably younger guys don’t give a crap about that.
I am not an apologist or a fan of her, but when she was married to Guy Ritchie I had the feeling that she toned down, a little bit.
Some thoughts.
1-I feel like her mutilating her face to stay young-looking is a sort of ageism. We just won’t stop calling her on it, and that’s why she’s ‘offended’
2-Madonna has always been annoying, but her music always drew me back no matter what. Same with Kanye I guess… But the thing is, her music kinda sucks hard nowadays, but she’s still annoying. So I’m just gonna keep on walking this time
There’s, surprisingly, enough vulnerable ballads on her new album that I’m sucked back into her music. I will just delete the junk and make my own smaller album. I caved and am going to her new tour. I think it will be fantastic.
Madonna performed live in Italy this weekend. It’s really a beautiful ballad. And she actually is wearing some great outfits for these overseas performances.
I have to give her credit. She’s really out doing a real promotion for this album. Overseas performances. She will be on Ellen for a week of performances off of her new album. Six songs over the week.
I really love the ornate coat gown she is wearing for this performance in Italy. It hearkened back to her elaborate gowns in her Ray of Light promo period.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2izo9n
“Mutilating her face to seem young looking is a sort of ageism”. Exactly what I was trying to say, but you said it better. I am 43, and aging is hard, famous or not. But watching a woman morph into a plastic surgery bizarre version of herself does not help women at all. It makes us feel worse! How is that trailblazing, as Madonna seems to be implying? What she is teaching is age is scary and ugly, so carve yourself into oblivion and mentally remain 25. Madonna is not trying to be brave, or have a “rebel heart”. She’s simply too scared to deal with mortality and aging. We all are! But it really really is okay to get older…it can be scary, but it is just as much a part of life as youth. Sorry for the rant, but Madonna really could have been a trailblazer if she went more the diane lane or Jamie lee Curtis route. Now that is courageous. Ok. I will climb off my soapbox. Madonna just pisses me off.
Here’s my take on it. No, most men her age are taken, or aren’t interested. They are with younger women.
Madonna isn’t just dating younger men, though. She’s with men in their mid twenties, not mid 30s or late 30s or 40s.
My theory. Madonna was still attractive in her 40s, mid 40s, etc. At 49, during the huge breakup with Guy and turning 50, she got those awful cheek implants and so much filler and botox that gives that frozen eye/arched eyebrow look. She really messed up her face in many ways, lost that great laugh and movement in her face, the interesting angles to her face that made her Madonna. It didn’t make her look younger. She just, on most days, looks stuffed and pulled with a bigger face, making her look even shorter. She had an effortlessly cool vibe about her in her 40s that, in her 50s, I think would have still had many men in their late 30s and 40s finding her attractive. Now, she’s just become eccentric and a caricature often, with the grillz, etc.
So, to me, it’s that she doesn’t have men flirting with her or asking her out. She has made herself invisible in that respect, instead of more desirable, which must be hard, men not looking at you that way anymore. It’s safer to pick a boytoy dancer, who is in awe of her, and fit him into her life. Because at that time, the last six years, she had four children, touring, after that directing a movie, starting businesses, and making an album and touring again. It would have to be someone at that time who could fit into her life. I don’t think it makes her happy left with only boytoys and was never her pattern, until most ages dried up for her and weren’t showing any interest in her. It’s kind of sad to me. I think if she had kept that effortlessly cool vibe of 40s Madonna, she would now be dating men younger, who could fit in her life, which is very busy, but someone who is a man, not a boy, late 30s or 40s or even a guy like Carlos, her ex, who is in his 50s.
All of those fillers and cheek implant just change a face and pushed the lower half down, making her look older or harder, instead of younger. I think without all of that, and just doing the mild tweaking that Madonna used to do, she would have just looked like a slightly older version of this below (Madonna ten years ago) and not the drag queen look she has too often these days. Even look at where her eyebrows are at in the clip below, lower, not frozen botoxed up like now, and her boobs natural cleavage, not pushed up to the high heavens like these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI8H5H-FK34
I think men are intimated by her wealth and fame,especially older men. It’s probably easier to be with a younger man who as you say is “in awe” of her.
No! I could not disagree more. I do not agree with anything in this article! It’s absolute BS. Kanye is an immature idiot! He knows nothing! He is so mindless and stupid I cannot even begin to go into detail. Madonna was different. Kanye is nothing like Madonna was at all, not EVEN in the same ballpark. Not sure why this makes me so mad but this is a HORRIBLE comparison. Everyone is HIGH who thinks so.
Let’s be honest, most men are not adventurous as they age and end up stuck in their ruts. My boyfriend is 38, not nearly as passionate or wants to do much of anything anymore. He hibernates in the winter and I can barely get him to go out to dinner. He is a thin man with no health problems. Men can be a touch dull as they age unless they have an adventurous spirit, which I find is rare.
I find that certain men who are in relationships tend to become a bit dull and settled, and not wanting to do much. No wonder women want out after a while.
Sigh…. Look Madonna. Not everything you do is OK just because you did it and just because you said everybody should be OK with it. Other people are allowed to have their own opinions without you name-calling and trying to shame them because as I said before, not everybody can be delusional too. It’s not ‘ageism’ to think you look foolish when you do. If you weren’t Madonna but some Hollywood Blvd nobody, the exact same photos and actions would be considered even more ridiculous. Why? Because we still give you compensation for being ‘Madonna’ but then you just have to rag on us for having critical judgement because we’re not all fan girls/boys who can’t say you’re nothing but perfect… which you aren’t btw…
When you want to show off and pretend to be off-the-scale and not care what others think, then stop whining that everybody doesn’t think it’s absolute greatness. It just shows how insecure you were about it in the first place and/or that you’re just a huge egotistical bully.
Ha! “Showing your ass” is an idiom meaning displaying your stupidity for all the world to see. So when she said she can “show her ass” at 56, at 66, and at 76, I literally laughed out loud.
Yes, Madonna, I have no doubt you will keep showing your ass.
As for Kanye, well, it pretty much confirms my opinions of both of them that she would declare him the new Madonna.
Notinterestedism.
It is really hard to date as you age, even when you aren’t yet her age. So many people are unavailable due to being married, so the pool you start with is small. Then you have to eliminate the men who won’t date anyone their own age, which is a lot of them. Then you have to eliminate the ones who are still trying to be players and/or have commitment fears. Then there are people you simply aren’t compatible with. What’s left is a tiny pool. I only need one, but I may not find him.
And I can only imagine trying to date as Madonna. She would intimidate most men. Can you imagine her on OkCupid?
Madonna, showing your ass is never acceptable. It’s not the age factor, it’s the “tacky” factor. It’s vulgar, immature and crass attention-grabbing of the worst kind because your star is fading. Just accept it, you’re aging and not making the best of it, you’re clinging to an image of yourself that is long gone. Time to grow up…..”b*tch”.
Married with kids, or coming out of a divorce that has made them so bitter that it’s best to steer clear.
I feel your pain, Madonna (I never thought I would say that!)
Sadly, I just lost my boy toy for good. I wanted it to be serious, silly me. I should have just played it for fun.
I will say this though even though I have stated above men can be a touch boring as they age: I have a friend at age 44 who cannot handle aging gracefully. She started massively getting cosmetic procedures at 33(restructuring her entire face)! She refuses to tell anybody her age (I happen to know but most do not) even her boyfriend. She tends to date younger men (in their 30’s) and pretending she is near their age to feel younger. The issue I worry about for her is if these gulliable men want children, for she has issues and probably cannot have any, especially given her age. She also refuses to date bald men, divorced men, men with kids etc, basically she wants to be their grand love and not have to measure up to anyone in the past; that’s right she wants to be their ONLY love (crazy I know). Perhaps, Madonna has a bit of what I describe above on a grander scale—obviously everyone knows Madonna’s age, but the other factors may be in play somewhat. Just a guess…
Madonna and Kanye are comrades in the empty envelope-pushing genre.
I have mentioned I knew someone in her mid 40s, a job to be very impressed by, beautiful, lots of vacation time, two kids, a nanny for when she travels workwise, lives in a beautiful home, artistic, very athletic, extremely smart, and fun. She was out of a dating relationship and went to a matchmaker in a large city who dealt with successful people. He pretty much told her she was only eligible for 60 and older. She was like 43 years old and usually her boyfriends were just a few years younger than her or her age. The matchmaker told her that her age and having two kids was baggage and men her age or even fifties, mid 50s wanted much younger women, mid to late 20s, early 30s without children. He didn’t take into account she was beautiful, successful, interesting, on and on, because the men wanted young, hot things, and preferably no kids. She walked out and told him she wasn’t going to date a 70-year-old, but was so thrown by what he said to her and it upset her for weeks. She has dated men that are much less successful than her, but it really runs its course after a while. She is very open and will date and give guys a shot for dates, guys I would never even give a shot.
But there are so many nuts and losers and cheap guys out there. My friend has been on a dating website off and on for four years. After being widowed very young, she was finally ready to date again and really put herself out there. She’s attractive and ws doing it late 30s to 44. The stories of the men she has met, and two had relationships with, would be enough for me, if I were single, to just adopt a few more animals and stay single and call it a day. And let me tell you, I had never heard so many stories of bizarrely cheap men. And you haven’t even gotten to sex drive issues or selfishness or laziness, depending on the guy, or some with all those qualities. Then you add some with children and those issues sometimes mixed with your children and whether they like him.
In the world of the rich and famous and land of the young and beautiful, I can see how it would be tough-going in your mid 50s as a woman and if you are powerful like Madonna and many children. Look at beautiful women like Sharon Stone. Men her age or even younger aren’t beating down her door to date her. The last guy I saw her dating was much younger. And I think she’s aged beautifully and has an energetic spirit about her.
You keep mentioning cheap men, but I love cheap men. I stand to inherit a lot of money when I get older and I am majorly turned off by men that are of a spendy nature, they tend to blow their money whether they have it or not and I certainly don’t want them to expect to blow my money. I am with a man now who I have been happier with than the other men I have been with in the past because he is frugal with his money and never has any debt. My issue with him though is a lower sex drive than myself.
However, I will say your other comments are pretty spot on. I have a few single 40 something friends who have scared me pretty badly on how dating is at their age. I am 34 and it makes me never want to be single. I am told I am lucky my only complaint if my bf has a low sex drive because of the men out there in this world. It is truly horrifying. I wonder why this is in our society? Is it overprotective mothers who have turned grown men into spoiled entitled children as adults? I’ve seen a 30 year old man who is hung over from a night out drinking go to his mother’s house to be coddled by her. REALLY?? I just don’t know… I think it is also horrifying that the matchmaker said the only eligible men were 60+, really? How truly awful for her!
What is this world coming to?
I think we are all so used to the over-sharing and over-exposure that it starts to feel normal. For example the picture Hilaria Baldwin posted of her belly, wearing a lacy bra and underwear. I was looking at it and suddenly it hits me – those are her UNDERWEAR!? I have no problem with a crop top and leggings, or even a bikini which covers less than undergarments. Honestly, if she chose to pose for a publish some tasteful nudes, that to me would be less weird, than an underwear selfie in the bathroom.
Oh Grandma Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, men your age wouldn’t play along with your childish games. Lets tell the real story here.
huh? fill us in sweetie
it’s ageism, not sexism. i don’t think people want to see an older guy’s ass hanging out either.
I don’t think it’s ageism either. I wouldn’t want to see a young person’s butt at the Grammys either….I dislike it when women wear those clothing that’s more like a few strings stapled together (Amber Rose, Rihanna, the actress who dated Marilyn Manson ages ago etc)
It’s not her age…..It’s just such a TACKY move regardless of age or gender! …..don’t want to see male bums at these functions either!