Chloe Sevigny has always been a shade-throwing hipster Mean Girl. And it’s sort of been glorious. I mean, it’s Chloe Sevigny! She’s not trying to get your approval. She’s not trying to make you like her. She throws shade because she doesn’t care for some upstart hussies and that’s that. One of my favorite Chloe-beefs was her constant shade for Gwyneth Paltrow. More than a decade ago, Chloe pointed out that Gwyneth was just trying to be Carolyn Bessette (so true), and Chloe continued the shade parade at the Met Gala a few years ago, when Chloe smirked at Gwyneth’s sleeves.
Anyway, Chloe has a new interview with V Magazine and she has words about Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Angelina Jolie and more. The point of the interview is that Chloe has put together a coffee table book full of her life as Chloe Sevigny. Some highlights:
Why she wanted to reclaim her own aesthetic: “the Internet has all these terrible images, plus Google Image is boundless and never ending….”
She’s not about “good taste”: “Everyone is so obsessed with good taste, and I find that really boring. It wasn’t about every cover and every ad I’ve been in. I was really selective and wanted to set a mood and capture this spirit of not, like, the pretty girl, the sexy girl, but a different quality. I’m not arching my back in every photo.
Criticism, Vincent Gallo & aging: “When Brown Bunny came out, there was a real puritanical press onslaught. They dragged me over the coals. Doing something transgressive like that, it was kind of inevitable, starting off with Kids. I love Vincent [Gallo] as an artist. We’re not friends anymore, which kind of makes me sad. Maybe we will be again one day. Now that I’m getting old, though, it’s hard to see people you haven’t seen in a while because everybody ages so much and I don’t want him to see me older. But yeah, other than that, people love to say that snide, “She’s so indie, cooler-than-cool” stuff. I don’t take offense to any of it.
Marketing & movie stars: “So much is about marketing and selling the product. They’ll have a really peppy funny girl on the talk show rounds, and everybody adores her and loves her and wants to be her or f–k her, and then so many more people want to watch the movie or TV show. I understand that star quality, how much value that carries. I love when a movie star is a great movie star. I think Angelina Jolie is a great movie star. I don’t think I can be that, or just be an actor. I don’t think I have the charisma. Which is probably why I never reached another level. I like Emma Stone. Whenever she’s herself, she’s really cute. Jennifer Lawrence I find annoying. Too crass.”
Jennifer Lawrence is crass? Eh, I can see how a random person would describe J-Law as crass, but coming from an artist/bohemian like Chloe, it seems rather judgy. I mean, Chloe gave Vincent Gallo an on-camera hummer. THAT is crass. But I find myself agreeing with Chloe about the value of star quality and how that translates into financial success. I also agree with her about Angelina Jolie being a “great movie star.” As for Emma Stone… “Whenever she’s herself, she’s really cute.” Meaning that whenever Emma is playing a character, it’s NOT cute? Ha.
For those die-hard Sevigny fans, go and read the full interview – she references Terry Richardson and Larry Clark a few times, and gives an account of wandering into Clark’s art-filled apartment when she was still in high school. It reads like the beginning of an after-school special about what happens when teenage girls get invited to random strangers’ apartments to be “filmed” for an “art project.”
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Crass, eh. Annoying and vastly overrated, yes.
Hi chloe
Hi Jen/Maggie. Lol
I don’t get why disliking Jennifer Lawrence is such a taboo thing, the sun doesn’t shine out her ass & everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Yep. Totes agree. She’s harmless though, so it’s not that irritating.
Jennifer L is young.. people do silly things when they are young. Lets see how Jennifer is as she gets older.
Yup, she’s only 24. When Angelina was her age, she was wearing vials of blood and bragging about getting it on in a limo like a prom queen. Chloe sounds jealous.
Crass means different things to different people – why can’t we celebrate these women being themselves and not being afraid of eccentricities (whether it means – shock, gasp! having sex with a husband or telling fart and diarrhea jokes) instead of falling into the mob attack mode of clawing each others eyes out. I knew from the headline on this thread that because this ish was being mildly critical of Jlaw and complimentary of Jolie the usual hater suspects would be foaming at the mouth to seek revenge and try to tear her down as well. Why not stick to hating on Chloe why veer off into ‘let’s all shred Angelina’ land…when she’s the one who’s been egregious…unless you really don’t care what she says about Jlaw you’re just using it as an excuse to attack Angelina Jolie? Get over it. It’s a decade later. She’s a woman who focuses on what really matters in the world and doesn’t have anything bad or crass to say about anyone…yet it never fails…that women feeling inadequate and bitter about themselves will go ham on her. So sad.
Also….
Just a correction: Angelina Jolie didn’t brag about getting it on in the limo, her then husband did. ..it also wasn’t a “vial,” it was a flower press amulet necklace. But hey, facts schmacts, eh? The fact that you’re still talking about pretty tame ish about her life from dang near 15 years ago, speaks to the fascination she inspires and the hold she has on you.
That said: Crass means different things to different people – why can’t we celebrate these women being themselves and not being afraid of eccentricities (whether it means – shock, gasp! having sex with a husband or telling fart and diarrhea jokes) instead of falling into the mob attack mode of clawing each others eyes out. Chloe said Jlaw was annoying so let’s all write a 10 page essay denigrating Angelina Jolie who has nothing to do with any of this. Oh suuure you’re not invested at all. Lolol
I knew from the headline on this thread that because this ish was being mildly critical of Jlaw and complimentary of Jolie the usual hater suspects would be foaming at the mouth to seek revenge and try to tear her down as well.
Why not stick to hating on Chloe why veer off into ‘let’s all shred Angelina’ land…when she’s the one who’s been egregious…unless you really don’t care what she says about Jlaw you’re just using it as an excuse to attack Angelina Jolie? In which case: Get over it. It’s a decade later. Jolie is not your enemy. She’s actually an admired and accomplished woman who seems to focus on what really matters in the world. How about pick a new target? Maybe a man….jihadi John or something?
She’s a woman who focuses on what really matters in the world and doesn’t have anything bad or crass to say about anyone…yet it never fails…that certain women feeling inadequate and bitter about themselves will go ham on her. So sad…but sooo predictable.
Angelina was pretty crass always talking about her sex life before she got with Brad Pitt and didn’t have to do those things for attention.
Tara, being sexy, liking sex, discussing sex, having sex…especially with your husband isn’t ‘crass.’ DIscussing your runny explosive diarrhea, farting and other gross nauseating sophmoric topics is usually deemed to be crass or at the very least vulgar. If you find sex vulgar you need to see a therapist.
My guess jealousy is why you keep attacking Angelina though she has nothing to do with some actress slamming Jlaw. Get a life.
Buggiez, a bodily function is a bodily function. Talking about your bowels is no more crass and vulgar than talking about your genitals. In my opinion, we’re all just talking body parts here, and people get so damn prudish about anything having to do with the body. It makes no sense to me whatsoever.
My definition of “crass” doesn’t include talking about or laughing about or crying about your bowels or sex life. It means coarse, tactless. In which case Chloe most certainly was. She could have made her point without naming names. She named names for attention- click bait- and that’s crass. It’s opportunistic and, pardoning the expression (because I don’t believe in slut shaming), fame-whoring.
To Ceeteeee, if you relate taking a dump to having sex. You really do have a problem.
Here’s a quick test – there’s a movie out now that is heading towards 1 billion in box office that most women are trampling over their moms and grandmoms to see…who are also running out to see it….called 50 shades. It’s about sex.
Please let me know when you’ll be buying tickets to Jlaw’s next torturous bout of explosive smelly diarrhea? Somehow I doubt it will be a smash, except in her pants.
See the diff hon. If you think they’re the same…there’s a puritanical convent stuck in the dark ages run by sharia mullahs and fundie weirdo preachers that have reserved a room just for you.
Hahahaha. @ Bugglez— you just made my day with your commentary
Re: having sex vs. eliminating waste…..I just LOL’d so loudly, my Husband asked me from the kitchen— what happened?
My true solace and chance to disconnect….blogging on Celebitchy and Boston.com…..
Ah, the joy of life’s simple pleasures…..
I would make a distinction between being crass overall, which I don’t think she is, and occasionally doing crass things, which I think she does.
I’m among the 13 human beings to have watched Brown Bunny. Have a seat Chloe, you are the very picture definition of crass. It would be far more interesting if you just gave us a list of the drugs you are on these days, just so I can see if my guess list is correct.
I’m another of those 13 human beings who has seen Brown Bunny. I wish I weren’t. I wish I could delete that entire experience from my brain.
So, so true. Giving a man a blow-job on-camera is the epitomy of crass. Whenever I see a picture of Chloe I think of that scene in Brown Bunny.
far more telling in Crass-metter is that she was traipsing around NY with one of those burnt BBQ pieces of chicken from the Jersey shore past their expiry date.. the one with the FUGLY hair and the early eyes wrinkles??
QQ, are you talking about one of the women or one of the men from Jersey Shore?…don’t they ALL have fugly hair and early eye wrinkles?
and LMAO at your description of them!
She doesn’t do sexy photo shoots or ad campaigns because she isn’t sexy or pretty and would be vilified by the media and the masses if she attempted it. Glad she accepted what she can do successfully, but IMO she is homely and bitter bc of it.
Also, tired of actresses ripping on other actresses but then praising the Jolie. I don’t beleive it’s sincere – more like self-preservation in the form of brown-nosing the one in power.
Saw Savigny the other day on an old episode of Law and Order. They refer to her at trial as “a very attractive woman.” I spit my lemonade out. I swear she must have pushed for that description to be in script. LOL
I’m number 7 of the 13 people who saw Brown Bunny and any girl that gives a real hummer to a guy on film is by definitiion crass.
i remember her saying it was “art” and it “should be shown in a museum.”
bless her heart
Another of the 13 here. I am as far from a prude as anyone alive, but Brown Bunny was a trainwreck, and giving your BF an on-screen means you can never, ever call another actor crass, unless they are Vincent Gallo or Lindsey Lohan.
She was very good in Boys Don’t Cry, but that’s an one-off to me. She’s never impressed me in anything else.
I agree with her
Amen on all 3, Chloe.
Anglina is a star first, JLaw is very very overrated and annoying, and Emma is awesome. I couldn’t agree more.
Chloe is trying so hard to be edgy…It must be exhausting trying to be captain of the mean girls all the time. Lawrence can be annoying, but has charisma and talent to burn. I’ll take her goofiness any day ahead of the usual ‘turn up on the red carpet and look sullen’ star vibe.
I don’t particularly like Chloe, but I don’t see the charisma in JLaw, nor the amazing talent. She is decent, but not amazing. She is beautiful, that is true.
Emma Stone has charisma. I could watch her all day. Angelina too, even if she isn’t all that good as an actress.
I could not agree more. I don’t find her to be some insanely attractive ingenue either. She’s kind of a butter face, super annoying and try-hard, and just not the best young actor.
Btw, I don’t think its “crass” that Chloe gave a blow job on film (two consensual adults engaging in sexual activity in a film that we don’t have to watch if we don’t want? Let’s grab our pitchforks!). I do think talking about farts in an interview is crass (or maybe just stupid.)
Love the GP shade. I like Chloe more now hahah
Well, tastes differ – but give me J-Law’s dynamism as an actress and celeb any day ahead of Chloe’s tired snark.
@Xtina Thank you re: two consensual adults…Are we really such prudes that consensual sexual intercourse on camera automatically = crass? I don’t get it. All porn stars are crass, then, along with anyone who has done anything sexual in a film? Hmmm… Maybe I don’t get it because I haven’t seen Brown Bunny but could we please be a little more liberated if you “have to” make judgments against other women? I happen to think a lot of porn is pretty awesome, I think some of the outfits Kim K. wore this week were super sexy (gasp!), and am in favor of Robin Wright’s comments about her sexual happiness with her fiancé. And I am a feminist and proud to call myself such. I do not condone violence or women as puppets of men (so yes, there’s a lot I disagree with re: Kimye; all I’m saying is I liked some of the outfits, that’s it!) Guess none of that is okay here? Too bad…I thought celebitchy was a more enlightened crowd…
God forbid anyone have an opinion about something done on film.
I don’t know why you people can’t handle the fact that not everyone thinks on screen blow jobs are awesome, and that we -GASP – utilize our First Amendment rights to express that dislike.
It’s rather hypocritical of you to criticize people like me for being “scandalized” by some z-list hipster wannabe doing the only thing she’s good for on camera, yet be scandalized that not everyone likes it and that we have the audacity to say so in public.
this. I don’t find her all that crass, but jlaw’s act is exhausting.
To be fair to J-Law, she has tried to disappear for the best part of a year. There have been a couple of TV and premier appearances around the release of Mockingjay, the Vanity Fair interview, and that’s it. I think her and her team are desperately trying to stay out of the public eye at present. However, between phone hackers, the paparazzi and Chloe Sevigny indulging in some low-level bitchiness, that isn’t working out so well.
I find Lawrence crass, too. When she had her Oscar in her hand and gave the camera the finger backstage, I was surprised. It was very tacky and rude. And all her falling blah blah blah, I was thinking she had a serious drinking problem.
And I don’t get the Jolie superstar/actress thing at all – she’s mostly made really crappy movies and got known for wearing her husband’s blood. A step up from Kim Kardashian. I’m totally unimpressed by her. Gwynnie, yeech.
I like this Chloe woman!! She’s pretty funny!!
^^^ This but I’m not sure about Chloe throwing so much shade.
Dumb question: why do Brangaloonies go so crazy over Angie or Brad? IMOO, Brad is a much better Actor than his Wife…and while Angelina is no doubt insanely gorgeous…she needs to eat a sandwhich and stop thinking she can direct. I’m sorry, but I saw Unbroken and it was not all that great. Perhaps the Screenplay Adaptation was difficult…but here was a case where the book was so much better.
All of course, JMO
I don’t think Angelina Jolie is a great movie star. She’s a great woman, activist and ambassador for human rights but not a great movie star. I don’t know if Chloe says it as Angelina being very professional, serious and committed in her job as an actress ( and she probably is all of that) but I can’t like her when she acts.
I think Meryl streep is a great movie star. Helena Bonham Carter, Sandra Bullock, Julia Roberts, Niciole Kidman, Julianne Moore are great movie stars.
But with Angelina there is something off when she acts. I can’t even figure out if in my opinion she can act or not!
Why is this about Angelina.. Angie didn’t say any of this. But it seems every time someone uses her name in their comments the whole thing becomes about her..and people feel the need to tear her down to discount what the person said. Angie is not out in interviews putting herself above anyone. She is not claiming to be the greatest actor or whatever.
CS said she thought Angie was a great Movie Star..
I don’t get why people need to tear Angelina Jolie down because of what someone else said.. but yet again she is the victim of attacks because some people see her name used and then it becomes lets get her.
Happens all the time.
Tear her down?
Please read again!
I only said i don’t agree with Chloe’s statement about Angelina being a GREAT movie star.
She has become a greater person through the years and it’s definetely a positive thing that what she does best is away from the cameras! She’s a great role model, an amazing human being and she fight for what she believes in.-
Not tearing her down, just stating that she is no GREAT movie star.
A great movie star can lead any film. even the shittiest one.
and i’m sorry but she can’t do that.
Chloe commented on Angelina, JLaw, and Emma Stone. None of them said any of this. Paola shared her opinion on the Angelina comment, others have shared theirs on the JLaw comment. I’m not seeing the difference, or why one is OK but the other is not.
Paola, I’m going to agree with you on Sandra, Julia, and Nicole, but I think Julianne and Helena are still more on the actor side, vs. movie star, and I see Angelina more as a movie star than an actor. Meryl is one of the few who seems to be both.
attacks? tear her down?
paolo PRAISED her…just because she doesn’t think Jolie is a good actress doesn’t equate to her “attacking” or “tearing down”.
I agree with her…Jolie is a wonderful humanitarian, seemingly a great mother and wife, and apparently a pretty good person…but I don’t find her to be a great actress either. the wonderful work she does doesn’t mean that she’s not allowed to be criticized for her acting skills.
Let’s not get bent out of shape over a non-existent “attack”.
I don’t think Jolie is a great actress, but I DO think she’s a great movie star.
In other words, technically she’s a rather mediocre actress, but she’s a fascinating woman– charismatic, charming, beautiful, and very, very interesting. I think that’s what Chloe was getting at: that Angelina’s off-screen persona is iconic and embodies a kind of mystery that draws people in. She’s very much like an old school movie star in that sense–her presence is larger than life.
Sandra Bullock is a great movie star? Please tell me you’re joking.
Bullock should not be mentioned in the same sentence as Streep and Kidman.
ITA whenever Angie is mentioned people bring up stuff that has nothing to do with the topic.I guarantee if Nicole was mentioned people would not talk about her basically abandoning her older kids.If Julia had been mentioned people would not talk about her hooking up with Danny when he was married.I really wish celebs would stop name dropping Brad or Angie.
Sandra Bullock IS a great movie star, IMO, as is Julia Roberts. Like someone else said here-AJ is too, b/c her presence is old school, larger than life. People love Sandra-she’s charming, acts down to earth, friendly and hammy as a persona. And she definitely has charisma on screen, even though she’s not the best ‘actress’ in terms of technical skill. Same with Julia and AJ. Blanchett, Streep and Mirren are great actors; they sometimes seem like movie stars, b/c the are elegant, gracious, etc. But they don’t have those larger than life personas that lure you in, like Julia, AJ, Bullock. Kidman is more of an actress as well, but she’s so iconic that she’s become movie star, dahling, as well. There are few movie stars, lot of actors. But many of the movie stars are not necessarily great at acting. lol
Have to back up Kitten on this: AJ is a movie star – she’s pretty much the most famous woman in the world! She just has IT. Whether we think she’s a good actress or not. Sandra Bullock is mediocre, also agree on that.
And I always judge how famous/movie star quality someone is if my dad knows who they are. He doesn’t know who Chloe Sevigny is. LOL.
@Hippoty: it’s international women’s month and thank you for setting us back a century.
You have no right to diminish Angelina’s accomplishments by claiming that she wouldn’t have achieved it without a man.
I get the fact that you don’t like her and that’s your prerogative. But it’s not your prerogative to diminish her because of that dislike.
Agreed Lisa and Kim. Thanks for being brave enough to tell it as it is. Any celebs says anything about Angelina, people come on here and go on about ‘vials’ of blood, and sex in the limo. The old pro forma standard stuff. It just gets tiring, that’s all. Change the record, is all I’m thinking.
It’s the raw talent. Angelina is someone I admire, but I must admit she doesn’t have the real talent to act like the ones you quoted, although she can do pretty well sometimes.
Angelina’s Oscar wins and all other major acting accolades aside, she doesn’t work that often these days- and she picks specific acting projects for her own reasons having nothing to with garnering acclaim for acting (she’s gotten that already a multitude of times) but even if you suddenly decided Oscars, golden globes, SAGS, Natnl Board of Reviews, Critics Choice awards, etc., along with loads of critical acclaim going over the last 15 years didn’t exist and I was just imagining it…all one need do is google to see I’m not.
It’s really not a debate.
it’s just her jealous haters going ham as usual in a thread she has nothing to do with.
Bugglez, but when Aniston or Clooney get SAGS, GG or potential Oscars nom, you all claim those awards have no meaning and it must have been bought paid off,etc. You guy only make an exception when Jolie or Pitt are up for those awards right? A hypocrite a best you are.
I just love how you are were in denial about Jolies, aggressive, pathetic and lowly Oscar campaign for Unbroken which got her nothing in the end.
Hip
Dup
Why is it Aniston fans are so obsessed with the triangle, they have to drag Aniston into it and base their dislike of Angelina solely on that? Let it go! Its a fact that Aniston’s aggressive, lowly and pathetic campaign for Cake brought disgrace and disrepute on herself, especially when she sunk so low as to drag a grieving widow and his children into it. Unbroken not being nominated is hardly a surprise, Angelina barely campaigned. If she really wanted a nom, she would have campaigned for it, she didn’t. Aniston sunk to every new depths in her pathetic and low desperation including sending cupcakes to voters and dragging up a dead ex. She really made a laughing stock of herself and it was great and karmic justice to see her fall flat on her face and walk away having disgraced herself.
I think Chloe meant AJ has he quality of a great movie “star,” as in the whole persona and how she conducts herself in the limelight, vs. commenting on her skills as an actor. Just as her “crass” comments were more about J Law’s personality and not her acting skills.
Chloe said great “movie star.” There is a difference between this and being an actress or actor. There are only a handful of real movie stars left who fall in this category.
Yeah, if you think of Marilyn Monroe for example, she plays pretty much the same kind of character but man, she was a movie star. There are excellent actors/actresses and then there are people who have the aura. I don’t know if many young actors and musicians will ever reach that height anymore. When I watch talk shows and Cher and Michael Douglas come on for example, even though I am not old enough to be familiar with all their body of work, it is like wow, these people have the “it” factor and will always be special. I think Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt will probably always be famous. I think. For example, I am not sure Bradley Cooper will still be famous in ten years.
Anyway Chloe is being a bitch but at least she is aware that she is nothing special either.
I somewhat agree about Angelina, she plays the same role a lot, she’s usually the sexy vixen in more serious roles, she plays them well though. I don’t understand the difference in that and other actresses who always go for the rom com roles, I definitely don’t see Angelina being able to pull off that type of character.
Angelina’s various roles : mentally disturbed woman in Girl interrupted, conniving power hungry mother in Alexander, Naive rookie police officer in the bone collector, police detective trying to find a serial killer in Taking lives, a grieving mother in Changeling, a grieving and pregnant wife in A mighty heart, a spy in Salt, a fairy who was raped in Maleficent, a political wife in The good Shepard, an assassin in Wanted and a wife who learn her husband is a spy like her in Mr and Mrs smith.
Angelina is a very versatile actress who always plays a strong female character whethee they are good or evil. She even tired a rom com in Life or something.
Not attacking you in any way just pointing out the different roles Angelina has played.
Maya, thank you for not coming at me guns blazing, lol. I almost mentioned Girl, Interrupted, she was amazing in that and completely stole the star role from Wynona, one of my favorite movies. I just meant she’s usually in those more serious vixen type roles, from what I remember anyway, I’ll admit I haven’t seen a few of those movies you mentioned so maybe that’s why I feel the way I do about her! 🙂
I disagree. AJ has chosen a variety of roles.
The sexy vixen persona was more in photoshoots than in actual movies. She has a face more for the sultry dramatic roles anyway. She has said herself that she does not do comedy, maybe Mr and Mrs Smith was the most comedic thing she has done, at it was more action.
I do think she is a great movie star. She does not need to be the best actress ever to be a movie star, she is a good competent actress, but she is a heat movies star and she uses that star power to do good things with.
Exactly maya. I think people who say angelina isn’t a good actress have only seen her action movies or have only seen girl interrupted and try to insult her by saying she was playing herself. Lol haters gonna hate. I think she is far above the acting skill of her husband but she simply doesn’t have the passion he has for acting- that’s why he guns for the big well liked directors and angelina doesn’t care who directs her films- sometimes I believe it is all about the$ for her and not the quality.
@Jess: you have missed some great acting and great movies. Changeling, Bone collector, taking lives, a mighty heart and the two TV movies Gia & true women are few of the movies which shows Angelina’s versatile brilliant acting talent.
Do see them when you have time…
To Jess? HUH?
Because of Jolie’s acclaimed roles…i don’t think Marianne Pearl, the mother of the murdered kidnapped child in Changeling, Gia Carangi, or Lisa Rowe Girl Interrupted were “sexy vixens.”
Also, I’d rather watch Jolie in a bad rom com than watch the usual lamestrosity in a bad rom com…at least she gives you a reason to look at the screen…if the jokes are bad you’re still looking at a charismatic beauty….rather than a wet neurotic sour dish rag sandra bullock wannabe who couldn’t make it at 31 in movies, so no way in heck is she suddenly getting chops and charisma at almost 50.
The victim of attacks? Paola simply said she’s not sure what she thinks of Jolie’s acting ability!
A little perspective might be needed here. I highly doubt Jolie would appreciate the hyperbole used in defence of her. She’s not being attacked and she’s not a victim. She’s an actor, having your work publicly critiqued comes with the job.
Depends on your definition of a movie star.
I had to chuckle at your list – Julia Roberts and Sandra Bullock as your example of good actors? I love Sandra Bullock but she’s one note, and Julia is mediocre at the very best.
I think Chloe meant that Angelina has a graciousness and humility that we associate with the best “movie stars.” Movie stars are the ones with immediate presence, who command the room just by walking into it, who people think of as having a certain grace. Angelina took a long time to work into that elegance, and even now, plenty of people think it’s a big act. But yeah, I think she pulls off “movie star.” As for her acting, she’s super hit or miss, and as she herself has admitted, she’s not great on screen. But in a few roles, she has been amazing, so I think she’s earned some respect.
@Josephine…totally agree about Sandra Bulluck and Julia Roberts! How Sandra won an Oscar for Blind Side, just shows me how stupid the Oscars are. Personally, I thought she over-acted and was so annoying in that character, I could have slapped her. Julia Roberts is Julia Roberts in every movie she is in..including Erin Brockovich, another, doozy pick, by the Academy…
I posted the same above. Actually Bullock and Roberts are cut from the same cloth–so very, very mediocre it hurts.
But but, they’re American sweethearts.
Yes, but they ARE movie star. That’s what was said-not that they are ‘great actors’. Again, movie star does not equal great actor. It’s the charisma, ‘it’ factor, aura-as someone else called it. Yes, Julia and Sandra have that, for sure. They are charismatic on screen. You watch them enough to know they are not great acting talents. Blind Side-I caught it on a tv in a hotel room-and could not believe this was an oscar winning role! It was a glorified after school special. Still, love Sandra and her cheesy rom coms. She’s got good comedic timing, physical comedy skills and oozes charisma. She’s likable. Julia is not likable, but she does have charisma and a bit of on screen magnetism. These people can headline and hold the screen time in a movie, solo. AJ has the same ability. But none of these 3 are great actors. They are movie stars. And long live the movie star-it’s such a great escape to enjoy watching them lol.
I don’t find Sandy particularly charismatic on-screen myself. To me her on-screen persona and her off-screen persona are the same: decidedly uninteresting and vanilla.
I will say that she comes across as sweet and funny in interviews, but she’s just not a fascinating and iconic actress.
…and I feel the exact same way about Julia Roberts.
@ Josephine
well said. I fully agree with you.
I don’t think being a great movie star is always about being the best actress. Sometimes, it’s the mystique, the power, etc. And of course, being gorgeous LOLLL.
Paola: A Movie star isn’t the same thing as an actor. It’s irrelevant how good an actor they are. What makes them a movie star is charisma. That quality that makes it impossible to turn away. Examples like Elizabeth Taylor, Marilynn Monroe, Jean Harlow. All movie stars, acting talent questionable. We all know who they are without having seen their complete library.
A movie star is the difference between Betty Davis and Barbara Stanwyck. In both cases, they could act, a bonus for a movie star, but who remembers Barbara Stanwyck? Audrey Hepburn vs Doris Day to name another pair. It’s not simply their tabloid lives, it’s their beauty and charisma.
Every person you’ve named is an actor. We can discuss whether or not they are great actors or to what degree they are amazing actors, but they are not movie stars. Some have tried eg Nicole Kidman, to be movie stars, none have reached that level.
And so to Angelina Jolie. Her talent is questionable, as are her films, but she’s mesmerising. She’ll be remembered long after her films are forgotten and not simply because she’s also turned out to be a fantastic humanitarian. Afterall, Audrey Hepburn also became a great humanitarian yet everybody primarily remembers her for being a movie star.
Actually
Hey, don’t knock Barbara Stanwyck – a great actress, and yes a real star! (No disrespect meant to the wonderful Bette…)
Totally agree with LAK. With Angelina, you cannot take your eyes off her when she’s around. She is fascinating, has this bigger than life persona and practically eclipses everything and everyone around her. While there are better actresses than her, not all of them are movie stars. So say what you want about her acting skills, but she is dazzling, onscreen and offscreen.
I remember Barbara Stanwyck! 🙂 It’s a shame that she isn’t mentioned in the same breath as others because she could do it all and did it for decades. Comedy (Ball of Fire is one of my favorites), Drama, Action/Westerns, Mysteries, even sort-of a musical once. She played soft, she played hard, she played terrorized, she the terrorizer. And she was lovely as a young woman. When movies dried up she, unlike many of her peers, easily transitioned to TV. Heck, she was still kicking it on TV in the 1980s! Sorry to ramble but after Kate Hepburn, she’s my favorite. And my grandma looked like her when she was young so I have an especial soft spot. 🙂
I actually don’t think she has the screen presence of a movie star. She did when she was younger, but now I find her quite boring to watch on-screen. Someone like Marilyn or Audrey would have elevated a film like The Tourist and kept my attention despite the awful filmmaking. Instead I barely even remember Angelina’s character, and she was a lead! I remember being far more captivated by Archie Panjabi in A Mighty Heart. A few months after watching Malificent all I remember is the pretty visuals. Wanted was all about James McAvoy for me. I think Mr & Mrs Smith was the last film she made where I had the ‘can’t tear my eyes away’ experience with her.
Off screen I agree she’s mesmerizing but I don’t think that’s come across on-screen for a long time.
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@LAK, for me, it’s gonna be Jolie and Kidman who will be remembered as movie stars. They are both arguably great actors, but I think they also inspired strong emotions among the masses. And good for them that they already have iconic performances in iconic films (Maleficient and Moulin Rogue)
Why are posters here being allowed to attack completely innocuous comments with multi-paragraph ad hominem attacks? I’m recovering from surgery and catching up on Celebitchy, and I’m just like whoa. I think Angelina is the definition of a movie star, but I do not like to see people attacking (yes attacking) other people’s very mild, innocuous opinions on here.
Angelina has charisma and that’s what makes her a movie star IMO. The interest in her private life makes her an even bigger movie star than she would have been. Chloe is a good actress, but has no charisma. Jennifer Lawrence is a good actress and has charisma. I can see how she annoys people. I prefer the stars who don’t try hard to prove how normal and warm they are.
@Paola, who wrote: “I don’t think Angelina Jolie is a great movie star.”
LOL! What a surprise! 🙂
Bahahaha +1000000 the usual suspects piling on Angelina in a thread she has ish to do with trying to revise reality kill me.
poor you.
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^^^^. This too. On point
Oh dear. She really is a mean girl. Jennifer Lawrence is a just being Jennifer Lawrence much like Chloe is just being Chloe. Perhaps there is a bit of jealousy attached to her comments since Jennifer has reached that level that Chloe never did.
I’ve never cared for Chloe. She comes across as a pretentious snob. And, yes there probably is some jealousy there. This is the only way for her to get some publicity- to talk about people who are actually famous.
Yes, yes, yes and yes. 🙂
She’s insufferable.
she’s a decent actress but, as Esmom said, insufferable.
she’s so ARTSY man, don’t you get it?! That filmed beej she gave to that anti-semitic pr*ck was ART you guys… (though how it differed from actual pr0n, I dunno…)
the fact that she likes Gallo and Creepy Uncle Terry Richardson, and thinks they’re “artists” is enough for me to question her judgment on everything else.
I also agree that she sounds a bit jealous of JLaw.
Agree. Jealous much, Chloe?
If she said it about anne hathaway you would be calling her a hero just like when she was bad mouthing Gwyneth Paltrow stop being a super fan all the time.
It’s just her opinion she isn’t a jealous old hater like the internet are branding her
I don’t get why Chloe is a “thing” anyway. She’s not overly attractive or even an interesting fashionista. She may have been in movies/TV but I have never seen her. And anyone who defends Terry Richardson is a douchbag, IMO.
LOL this woman thinks that Terry Richardson is a nice guy and she gave a real BJ to her director on a movie. She really knows what is crass
*sighs. throws bagel in trash.*
Lmao!
I think they were dating during that movie, I could be wrong. I once had an argument with an old boyfriend over the stupidity of that movie, which he loved. I remember throwing his stupid $500 hipster glasses across the room, breaking them. This was at the peak of my drinking days, but I still don’t feel guilty about it.
BengalCat2000, excellent story – and you were completely right, that movie is genuinely awful!
Lmao, that is a good story!
LOL !!
It’s disappointing about the fashion people and Terry, but then again, the film peeps do it with their own too, so…eh.
WOW she found a way to be in the news today. She’s so irrelevant and probably she’s angry because she’s a nobody today
Miaow! The moment I saw this, I figured this would be Celebitchy rocket fuel. I don’t think Jennifer Lawrence is crass – she’s a funny girl with a good line in scatological humour who maybe doesn’t always filter what she says like she should, but that doesn’t make her objectionable. Chloe is just judging her for not being too cool for school.
Well, she lost me right about when she said Terry Richardson’s “controversy is mired in…yeah.”
What, Chloe? Truth. Mired in truth? It’s a little disturbing to see someone like her shit on victims like that.
And saying that about Jennifer Lawrence makes her sound really thirsty. Has she seen Uncle Terry’s website?
Usually I’m not one to attribute every girl on girl critique to petty jealousy but in this case it does have the ring of truth. Chloe imagined herself as Hollywood’s tomboy, hipster cool chick and JLaw came along and swept the category. I can see this.
If Hollywood were a high school, Chloe would be the stoner fashionista who would never deign to try hard to look “pretty” but nevertheless was hooking up with all the football team behind the bleachers. JLaw would be the loudmouthed tomboy who ended up being voted Prom Queen. Two very different “alt” approaches to popularity and femininity.
What would Angelina be? Girl, Interrupted? She has stated she related to that character the most out of any she has played.
I think AJP is a wonderful woman, but like any human being– she too, has a less than perfect past and many skeletons in her closet.
Also, she truly was a “home wrecker” even though she denies it to this day and there were no children in the home she tore apart. Brad is also responsible. Not that this fact alone makes either one of them despicable people….Just sayin’……
NGBoston, sorry, but no, since there was no affair, as Jen herself denied, too, Angelina is not a homewrecker. But Aniston and Brad are. And Aniston and Theroux are.
If you’re going to call someone crass, perhaps check the company you keep, like Terry.
I like Chloe as an actress, but she seems a bit annoying.
She doesn’t have to check her company, she just needs to look in the mirror. I won’t argue that Jennifer can be crass sometimes but whatever she does, whatever fart or poop joke she makes, she won’t beat Chloe’s level of crass. Unless she makes porn and befriends some perv.
She’s amazing — thank god for actors who still speak their minds.
I’d say the same about Lawrence!
+1
She gives great interview, this one.
What an obnoxious person. Jennifer Lawrence might not please her (I find her annoying, to be true) but she does have talent. My only thing against her is her Oscar for Silver Lining Playbook, which wasn’t exactly her fault.
I really, really like SLP, and JLaw was great in it, but Naomi Watts 100% deserved that Academy Award for “The Impossible.”
I think Jennifer’s was for Winter’s Bone, or for being such a force so young.
Both seem to be beyond annoying though I agree on Lawrence’s comments. Good to still see some people who don’t feel the urge to kiss JFlaw’s butt and don’t fall for her schtick. But Emma Stone and Jolie are barely diffrent- all celebrities have just PR crafted media personas Defending Uncle Terry thoug… No, just no.
Uncle Terry gives me the creeps.
Apparently not Kissing Jennifer Lawrence’s butt is a SIN. It’s so wrong.
But I do think it was rather mean for Chloe to call her “crass.” That was uncalled for.
I had to go back and read what she said..
I don’t think she said that jennifer Lawrence is not talented or I didn’t read it that way. I think Jennifer is talented..
Good Lord…!. So, Sevigny found a way to make headlines for about a day, maybe a day and a half. The bitchiness about Jennifer Lawrence makes her sound beyond bitter and jealous and judging by the comments I’ve been reading, that seems to be the consensus.
Sevigny isn’t relevant anymore…case closed.
I get tired of hearing certain women are “too crass”, it gives off the impression that it’s still the 1940’s and women should behave and be “ladylike”, better not curse, drink alcohol, or speak your mind ladies! We can do and say whatever we want, you’d never hear someone refer to a man as too crass.
This x1000.
+1
JLaw’s persona is not to my taste, and I would call her “immature” and “try hard,” but I would never say she’s crass. I also suspect, as my word choice implies, that she may well grow out of her more grating habits. But to call JLaw “crass” just implies a whole load of sexist attitudes about what women should be and do.
I don’t know. I don’t think Sevigny is sexist. Elitist, pretentious, too cool, maybe, but not sexist.
I took some time to think about your post, before replying.
I am one who thinks JL is crass. You gave me pause- do I also then think in a sexist way?
Perhaps I can lend the other POV. I don’t think it sexist to believe that, as a society, we have gone too far in the other direction. From “seen and not heard” to “anything goes”. I would prefer a middle ground.
I do not enjoy bodily functions being tossed in conversation- from either sex. Men are just as crass, to me, when the belch and fart and discuss it like it’s cool. So in that regard I am not sexist- I equally dislike it from anyone.
I like J Law and I defend her a lot, but the fart humor is crass.
It just is. And I would say the same about a man.
Then again, I’ve never found bathroom humor to be funny at all so…
I am okay with making a few jokes here and there (sometimes it’s good because it makes celebrities seem more relatable to us), but I do think Lawrence goes overboard, talks about it too much, etc. It will be interesting to see if she does mature or will she forever be mentally stuck at 21.
I hope she does mature and I hope she manages to sustain a lasting career. I have felt at times that her acting could veer into the territory of “overrated” but I DO think she has natural talent. I only wish good things for her.
Bingo.
Seth Rogen? Never said about him, or a lot of other guys. And, I sheepishly admit to liking Seth Rogen.
This x10000. Good thing I wasn’t a young woman in the 1940’s…surely I would have been defined as “unladylike” since cussing, drinking and speaking my mind are 3 of my all-time favs.
At least she doesn’t sugar coat her opinions. I kind of like that.
” You still work with Terry, right?
CS: Yeah. I love him. That whole controversy is mired in…yeah”
GIRL BYE
@Erykah B. ^^^ This! That was all I needed to read.
Angie is good not great
Oh, fuck off Chloe…she has the audacity to call Jennifer Lawrence “crass” when she gave a blowjob to Vincent Gallo, defends Terry Richardson (whom dlisted refers to as the “humanized windowless van”) and shades WOMEN who are more critically acclaimed, popular, successful, etc.,….
Sit down, shut up…
yeah that “humanized windowless van” comment SLAYED me. so apt.
Yes! Took the words right out of my head
Chloe sounds rather unlikeable here. I have not read her interviews before so I do not know if this is how she is usually.
I like this girl a lot. Sure, she must have some jealousy towards Jen , but every actress envies Jen right now.
I wouldn’t say every actress envies her. Some maybe but not all.
@Remember: Eh, a lot more than some (LOL!)…and Sevigny is definitely one of them.
remember actors are all about egos, it is very ugly actually as have known a few, Jen is the Golden Girl at a young age and not going anywhere, this is what they are ALL trying to achieve in that business.
I severely doubt every actor wants what Jennifer has.
She’s a friend and apologist of a known serial rapist.
Speaking of serial rapists—perhaps she would care to advocate for Bill Cosby’s innocence as well. Gag!! I despise Whoopi Goldberg and Eddie Murphy for having no balls and brown nosing. O/T, I realize…AIP
I’m not into bodily functions type humour, so I find JL crass. I cannot reconcile, in my mind, a woman in a beautiful gown that as previously talked about how she farts. I just cannot.
I agree. I see the term “crass” as specifically more of a bathroom humor / bodily function TMI thing. I’d call any man or woman who publicly discussed boogers & farts crass – or a fourth grader.
Lawrence has only made the odd fart joke, and most of her banter is based around reasonably witty self-depreciation. In my book, that hardly makes her ‘crass’.
At least Jennifer Lawrence didn’t make an idiot of herself in a film like the Brown Bunny. Chloe is jealous.
Nothing the smug Chloe says will ever change the fact that her her face looks like an Easter Island head. Boom.
HAHA! It really does!
I kind of agree with her about JLaw’s public persona (the constant scatological humor gets old), though not sure if she should have said that. Though it doesn’t sound like she’s criticizing her acting ability or her as a person, just the way she’s marketed.
YESSS. Finally someone said it.
What’s worse is that Lawrence is an intelligent adult (yes she’s an adult, don’t give me that “she’s only 24” crap, she’s 24 not 14, time to stop being a teenager) and knows better, but she deliberately keeps making her jokes and remarks because it’s part of her PR persona to appear “down to earth” and “above the fancy Hollywood crowd”
When Jolie was Jennifer’s age she wasn’t a great movie star. She was on the red carpet telling the interviewer how she and Billy Bob had just f’d in the limo on the way there, talked about knives, and their padded bedroom, kissed her brother for the cameras, on and on. She was young. Comparing Jennifer in her early 20s to Angelina at age 39 doesn’t make senses.
I’m pretty sure it was her husband who talked about the sex in the limo.
It was both of them.
That’s right. It wasn’t both of them, it was only BBT and he was joking.
So many people up in arms over JLaw. Interesting.
Anyway, all this talk of thirst..but I think a chick who will give oral for a film role that isn’t porn pretty much tells you she doesn’t aspire to be in Parade magazine. I think she could care less frankly.
Chloe has always been left of center and the giver of no dambs. I have no opinion of her statement either way because I really don’t care what she says. But I mostly like her as an actress and appreciate her candor.
Good heavens somebody doesn’t like Jennifer Lawrence what a horrible disgusting person.
Can people on this site really get judgey and look down on someone for bad mouth a celebrity? At least she does it showing her face and real name
Since this is becoming the trash Jolie post, let’s at least get facts straight- it was Billy Bob who said that about sex in the limo- he was older than 24. Javier Bardim kissed his mother on the mouth on TV at older than 24. Michael Douglas kissed his father on the mouth on TV at older than 24. There are many others to crucify as well. Jolie has a very diverse resume, and even at 24, had more credibility and shown far more talent than non-kissing actresses twice her age. I became a fan of her while young because she didn’t play the victim roles or wait to be rescued by a man roles like 90 percent of the other women out there, which made her great to me & ground breaking to so many others and in Hollywood and elsewhere. I like JLaw, but the fart stuff is a bit much, at any age. Chloe seems to be angry, and I hope she finds peace.
Exactly. Angelina had all that talent when she was young but lost the passion for acting. You can still see it sometimes like with changeling and even salt & Maleficent, but she’s over it. Obviously. or she would have signed up for something after Maleficent was the huge hit it was- pretty sure she can have any movie she wants after that one.
Whistles, whoops and claps. I love the truth.
Excellent point
I see way too many “jealous much Chloe” comments on here. Just because a woman doesn’t praise another woman doesn’t mean they are jealous. And Lawrence is 24 not 14, stop treating her as some delicate little thing.
@M.A.F.: Oh, come on Sevigny does come off jealous and petty.
No she doesnt.
Yeah, she totally does.
Plus, she’s the friend and apologist for a known serial rapist.
“The point of the interview is that Chloe has put together a coffee table book full of her life as Chloe Sevigny.”
Looks like someone has been reading their own press.
http://tomandlorenzo.com/tag/chloe-sevigny/
The crowd here never disappoint, I knew the Jolie praise will rub some the wrong way and they will find reasons why she is not.
A great movie star does not equate great actress which I happen to think Jolie is.
Jolie adopted her first child at 26 and has been doing her humanitarian work for 13 years. No, she did not start being awesome in her 30s.
Chloe should have known that she will be celebrated if she had dissed Jolie and kissed up to others, she did not get the memo.
I LOVED Chloe on Big Love. She’s a great character actress. The Brown Bunny thing was gross but it makes her more interesting; she owns up to it, doesnt regret it, and doesnt give a toss what ypu think. I agree that angelina jolie has a carriage and face that lends itself to promoting films (but has honestly been pretty flat in most of her work). Jennifer Lawrence has a shtick which probably stems from being uncomfortable. I think she has a lot of natural talent but was thrust out there too young.
You said everything.
I was starting to feel weird, like I was the only one that enjoyed the interview.
I like Chloe too. I thought she was good on AHS. Her character was interesting ,but the writers didn’t really do anything her. They didn’t use her like they should have.
I liked Chloe on Big Love too. Her character was so abrasive, but at the same time I liked her and rooted for her. I’ve seen her in a few other shows and stuff and she’s usually pretty good. I just don’t care much for her off screen.
Yes. I like her too. She’s not afraid to be herself. I also agree with you about Angelina and JLaw.
The internet always gets mad when celebrities have real opinions and actual personalities. I read her whole interview and it was interesting and honest. Most celebs are full of shit, so it was nice to read.
exactly. It’s a good thing to have a celeb or two who just says what they think without covering it in layers of I-love-everyone bullsh*t.
Maybe Chloe didn’t get an invite to Met Ball this year, co-hosted by Lawrence, and she’s cross – but I hope she did, because the gossip potential of the two of them meeting on the red carpet is considerable!
She has no idea what it means to have good taste and neither do the people she hangs out with apparently. Good taste, in an artistic sense, means that you are able to see meaning, content and relevance in a piece (In a very basic sense) regardless of the sense appeal. So she’s going to get all artsy and make it intentionally unappealing. *sigh* How, uh, typical. You’d think Uncle Terry could explain a little better….oh wait.
So ‘good taste’ is boring, but Jennifer Lawrence is ‘crass’ because she departs from the standard movie star playbook and makes a few fart jokes. Sevigny is all over the shop.
She comes off as depressed and envious. Jennifer L is a great actress, Jolie not so much. Her career was fading until she met Pitt. Now she’s a Hollywood celebrity. She’s never been a good actress imo.
Angelina’s career was this that before Brad. Who cares? She IS a movie star NOW. Deal with it.
Um Angelina’s Oscar wins and all other major acting accolades aside, she doesn’t work that often these days- and she picks specific acting projects for her own reasons having nothing to with garnering acclaim for acting (she’s gotten that already a multitude of times) but even if you suddenly decided Oscars, golden globes, SAGS, Natnl Board of Reviews, Critics Choice awards, etc., along with loads of critical acclaim going over the last 15 years didn’t exist and I was just imagining it…all one need do is google to see I’m not.
It’s really not a debate.
it’s just her jealous haters going ham as usual in a thread she has nothing to do with.
Lastly…Jolie had the bulk of her acting accolades including Oscar BEFORE Brad (who had nary an Oscar along with us then tv sitcom hack wife) – she was also being recognized as a humanitarian before Brad – as I recall people saying at the time that he being formerly half of a celebrity do nothing lamestrosity with aniston was copying and following in Jolie’s footsteps. They painted aniston aas an obsessed tv hack wannabe and him as having a stagnation career (at the time he was just renovating mansions and starting on the oceans 11 franchises). Jolie gave Pitt gravitas..he immediately started doing things in impoverished areas of Africa and everyone said it was her influence. The Jolie Pitt foundation and all their charitable work was directly attritubale to Angelina, and he said that was the case. Did having a big hollywood love story with another movie star increase her profile…of course as it does with everyone…see Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.
You need a reality check….Jolie was the only woman…to have opened an action franchise which broke records and she remains the Queen of that genre…plus she had a closet full of hardware before Brad…short of those facts: Google is your friend…cuz you don’t know what you’re talking about. Lol
Yes, but ‘movie stars’ usually/often gain great acclaim and awards, too, not just actors. [in fact, sometimes movie stars get more acclaim in terms of awards, than do very talented actors without the charisma]. Jolie is a great movie star, and a decent to mediocre actress. Bullock and Roberts are movie stars, and very mediocre actors. All 3 ooze charisma on screen and do more than hold their own-they can hold the entire movie as well as open a box office. This is a movie star vs. an actor. Meryl is beloved and after decades is finally a household name-but prior she was simply a gifted actress, same with Blanchett-they could not necessarily open a movie and need a bigger name alongside them, or the media helping them out. No need to get up in arms b/c ppl say Jolie is not a great actress. Shes not. LOL. But she is a great movie star. And has awards to show it. Yes, it’s opinion, too. But history has shown that these awards are not always given to the most talented anyway-so I’m not sure why anyone would use that fact as a means of ‘defending’ acting talent. Awards are considered arbitrary and drivel by popular opinion, but apparently not when Jolie gets them?
@ remember, PFFT! I have a differing opinion. Deal with it!
@Irma, thank you. You said it much better than I did.
What “Oscars” ? She only got a Best Supporting Actress Oscar( 15 years ago) and another one is an honorary one. That doesn’t count.
But we all know she tried very hard to get a Best Director and Best Picture Oscar this year and failed miserably. Oscars don’t mean anything when determining talent. I can name plenty of stars more talented then the likes of Jolie, Roberts, Lawrence who don’t have any Oscars or even a single nom. I prefer talent over celebrity persona thanks.
“in fact, sometimes movie stars get more acclaim in terms of awards, than do very talented actors without the charisma” @irma, that is so true. I really liked seeing someone like JK Simmons do so well this year, it was nice to see someone different get recognized for a change. There are some actors who are expected to be nominated for stuff just because they had a big movie or are big stars, but there’s usually other people quietly doing better work and not getting the accolades because they are lower profile.
I’m going to also agree that awards don’t automatically equal the most talented. It’s great when it works out and a truly wonderful performance gets recognized, or someone who has always been stellar finally gets their recognition, like Julianne this year. But more often than not, it’s about timing, PR, the competition, industry buzz, etc. – hence the awards to some of the people mentioned in these comments like Bullock and Roberts.
These over-the-top defenses of Jolie are odd. Not everyone is going to agree and that doesn’t make them stupid or evil or haters. I think Jolie is very overrated. I think she was a freakazoid weirdo in her 20s and gets way more press for humanitarian work than she earns. I think she is weird looking, not beautiful, a mediocre actress and immoral for stealing another woman’s husband.
There you go. Now you can have fun writing another 3500 word defense of your idol!!! 🙂
Actually Hippo, yes she was honored with the Herscholt Oscar and became their youngest recipient ever in 2014, and yes her first Oscar nod and win was for Best Supporting but don’t pretend you can’t recall her being nominated for a Best Actress Oscar just a few years ago for Changeling ESPECIALLY when you know who would have sold her Mama for the honor, and especially when that desperate stalker (anuston)followed both Jolie and Pitt (who was nom’d for Best Actor that year too) to THEIR ceremony.
It was embarrassing and mortifying and you probably watched with baited brearh, chanting and lighting candles that aniston would not be too drunk to present best key grip In a short animated foreign documentary with someone else.
No one believes you don’t have it in for Jolie…you are biased and on Vendetta.
Actually Hippo, yes she was honored with the Herscholt Oscar and became their youngest recipient ever in 2014 (but they only give that award to their own nominees and winners – not tv sheeitt com stars), and yes her first Oscar nod and win was for Best Supporting but don’t pretend you can’t recall her being nominated for a Best Actress Oscar just a few years ago for Changeling ESPECIALLY when you know who would have sold her Mama for the honor, and especially when that desperate stalker (anuston)followed both Jolie and Pitt (who was nom’d for Best Actor that year too) to THEIR ceremony.
It was embarrassing and mortifying and you probably watched with baited brearh, chanting and lighting candles that aniston would not be too drunk to present best key grip In a short animated foreign documentary with someone else.
No one believes you don’t have it in for Jolie…you are biased and on Vendetta.
I agree that Jennifer’s success has to do a lot with her public image. I think she is a good actress but a bit overrated (eg. I think she was good in SLB but in my opinion she didn’t deserved an Oscar). And as much as I find her a bit obnoxious at times, she seems a nice person.
And I don’t think Chloe should be calling anyone “crass” as she is friends with that perv Terry Richardson
I agree with Chloe that there’s too much put on how likable you are to the public on talk shows. Chloe is a snob and a bitch though. Just because she dresses it up in a hipster-ish style doesn’t make her cool or excused. She’s always hating on other actresses. She’s 40 and still hasn’t grown out of her poseur phase.
Isn’t it crass to call someone crass?
It is isn’t it? This is hilarious. What’s her point though? What’s wrong with being crass? I’ve been described as moody and impatient. My roommate is a sweetheart but she’s a pushover and a crier. My best friend swears like a sailor and has no tact. We lovingly call her “Cordelia” from Buffy. My sister has the famous Greek temper and stubbornness. So what? We all have annoying tendencies. Big deal! If anyone thinks they’re some precious gem then I worry that they don’t have any and/or real friends to call them out on their stupidity. It’s sad that a grown women is bullying and mean-girling a young woman because she’s jealous of her and her career. Why do you want to put that out there like that? It makes Chloe look stupid and petty and bitter. Until today, I forgot Chloe’s existence. I’m sorry, but it’s true. There’s a reason why her career never take off here in Hollywood and she’s showing us why. Keep your idiocy behind closed doors, Chloe. Also, congrats to Jennifer Lawrence for being the first female cast in a Steven Spielberg movie in over 30 years. Oh, final note, what the hell is she talking about Emma Stone? What does she mean she’s fine when she’s herself? As opposed to …..what? Come on, grow up people!
Ms. Manners would say yes.
I don’t know who she is but she looks kinda rough.
She’s not about good taste but she calls J. Law crass? What an idiot.
If you want to laugh, check out the male Chloe impersonator on YouTube. His name is Drew Droege. He resembles Chloe a lot, so he slays in these videos.
Chloe was interesting for about 30 seconds, once, a long time ago. I find nothing attractive about her & dispute that she’s an icon for anything stylish. At least she knows she has no charisma. I do wonder how she makes a living. Maybe an occasional escort?
Angelina has what early Hollywood called ‘It’. Is she Meryl Streep? No. Is she a very good actress? Yes in my opinion. Are some roles better suited for her? Yes. (Though I didn’t find Life as I Know it bad because of her performance just a weak movie.) Even in her early TV roles–Gia, George Wallace–she grabbed the screen and held it. Sometimes I think her It factor can overshadow her talent but in larger-than-life roles (Mr and Mrs Smith, Maleficent, Wanted, Salt, Beowulf) she knocks it out. I remember seeing her in Bone Collector and thought she was great. It wasn’t an Oscar role but she brought and toughness and vulnerability–and even some humor–to the role and held her own against Denzel Washington. And this was an early role. That, combined with her glamour and her A+ marriage, makes her THE movie star right now, in my opinion.
I think there are other A list stars–Julia Roberts (going back to Mystic Pizza, Steel Magnolias and Pretty Woman), Sandra Bullock (Speed, While You Were Sleeping), Nicole Kidman (Dead Calm, The Others, Moulin Rouge), among them that are much the same. They don’t always hit it out of the park and they are more comfortable in certain roles but there’s also something about them that can hold your attention on screen and on the red carpet.
I think of Meryl Streep as an Actress and some others as Movie Stars–doesn’t make them less talented, or sometimes it does, but it just means there’s that certain something extra that they bring that can often power an otherwise boring movie or compensate for a weaker performance.
To make another comparison–it’s like Princess Anne vs Princess Diana. Both of them were royal workhorses, did tons of duties and participated in a lot of worthy causes. Yet who would your eye immediately go to? Even if Anne decked herself out in designer duds, Diana just had It in spades.
The Brown Bunny was a great movie.
It wasn’t even good pron.
Angelina is both a great movie star and actress…Imo of course 😉
It’s definitely jealous talk.
To pray Emma Stone or Angelina Jolie is easy because either of them is as big a star as Jennifer Lawrence at the age of 24, not to mention that at Angelina Jolie’s time, the global market is not as wide-expanded as now.
I know this site is pro-Angelina Jolie only. Still, to admit Jennifer Lawrence’s success doesn’t hurt Angelina Jolie’s glory. I didn’t forget Angelina Jolie used to be IT girl -however, even at her prime time, Jolie is considered as a hot movie star, not a good actress. Angelina Jolie turned around her image as a “good person”, still, not a good actress. (Stop talking about Girl Interrupted, it’s like keeping talking about Good Girl for Jennifer Aniston.)
Jennifer Lawrence is a movie star, and a good actress with tons of talents. That’s a fact. And she is only 24. Give her a break. Chole whatever her name is should really shut up.
And, I am a foreigner. I don’t care how big Jolie is in your country. My point is Chloe whatever her name is too green. It’s a not a good color on an older woman.
The younger generation is coming. That’s all. For us the audience, it’s a good thing. Hollywood has been boring for a long long time.
Only a point: Angelina was also an Oscar nominee for “Changelling”, directed by Clint Eastwood. She is recognized as a good actress by the Academy.
The Academy? lol.
@Lo: I agree that there needs to be a changing of the acting guard in Hollywood. Too many people have overstayed their welcome and need to get out of the way of fresh new talent. But it’s a lack of substance that’s really killing Hollywood. At this stage I’d take HBO over the garbage coming out of Hollywood any day of the week.
@Mispromounced Name Dropper I am with you. I will take HBO over the Hollywood cliche anytime at this moment. And, I personally don’t buy the whole Oscar thing. For me, it’s just another PR machine from Hollywood. The Oscar list is for reference, but not the bible.
I am happy to live in a time like ours. There are so many choices in this world. I got to see Danish TV series, British comedies, French cinema, Japanese films, Korean films…..etc. Can’t complain! A very happy audience.
Hollywood, as you pointed out, needs real substance to compete in a modern world where audience can choose and became choosy.
“At this stage I’d take HBO over the garbage coming out of Hollywood any day of the week.”
bf and I talk about this a LOT…there is SO much good stuff (and yes, still a lot of crap…lol) on TV and pay-TV these days. HBO, Showtime, F/X, AMC…so many channels have been really putting out some good stuff. and Netflix, too!
hollywood has not much new to offer…I mean, a Ghostbusters re-make? (not the all female one.) That’s all you got?!
Hollywood has been boring for a long time? You must mean in terms of new, earth shattering talent ….
At the end of the day and even on a bad day, Hollywood is so fucking twisted and corrupt…the last adjective I would ever use to describe it is boring.
@ Lo………. in response to your comment about Jennifer Lawrence someone saying that she’s a terrible and overrated actresses is simply and opinion and does sound biased
BUT
Also saying she’s “a good actress with tons of talent” as you stated, is just as much an OPINION as is someone saying something negative about her………it’s not a fact that she’s a good actress.
People tend equate a POPULAR opinion with facts to support their arguments and I can never understand that.
I do agree that Chloe was a bit harsh about her comments on Jennifer though.
But she raised some interesting points in her response to ‘Marketing and Movie stars’ question in the interview. And at least she pointed out what she considers her own flaws as well.
Dear LO (brow)
I can’t say I LIKE her but she gives good interview! Entertaining hipster mean girl lol
Coming from someone who gave head on screen I can’t help but laugh.
Anyone who slams Gwyneth can always come sit down right next to me.
The Goopster sucks. There is nothing appealing at all about her at all. She is not physically unattractive, but as a human being I find her to be ugly on the inside.
Superficial, hypocritical, elitist, fake-ass, self-centered BIATCH. Don’t care for her at all.
Since I am great at remembering unimportant things, I remember an interview she did with Premiere years ago, where she was taking great pains to stress how nice and normal and non edgy she really was. She talked about how she was going up for roles in big budget films, which A-list actors she had crushes on, etc. So I always roll my eyes whenever she goes on like this, because she definitely wanted in on stardom and big movies. But since they weren’t having her, she’s had to go back to being the coolest and edgiest hipster in Hollywood who is so above everything.
And the woman defended Terry Richardson, so she doesn’t really get a pass to judge anyone else.
How many really “great actresses” are there these days anyway? Not a whole lot. So what was Chloe’s motive in naming a few who in her opinion are not really great? Does she see herself in that list of greats? So many questions…
Well, JLaw never gave her IRL boyfriend an IRL hummer on screen.
So…
I don’t care that she’s critical of Jennifer Lawrence, but I think the word “crass” to describe anyone coming from Chloe Sevigny is a little odd, considering, er, that movie she did where she….and there’s also how she looks on the red carpet most of the time.
She should have probably gone with another descriptor. “Crass” does seem like an unusually stupid word to use in this instance coming from her. Again, it’s not so much the criticism that’s the problem but that Sevigny criticized Lawrence for being what she pretty much is.
I don’t care about the Angelina issue, but it is kind of hilarious she commented on Angelina vs. Jennifer, but went with another Jennifer….
Love Chloe, wish she was in more! But I also like AJ and JL!
Kind of ridiculous to compare a 25 year old with someone who’s almost 40. Angelina @25 is not the Angelina of today and JLaw won’t be either. She just sounds petty and stupid.
I can understand people disliking JLaw and thinking she’s annoying, but it bothers me when people hate her for being overrated. Cool, you like her less than most people, but that’s not her fault. She didn’t choose to win the Oscar and to have such a vocal fanbase. What do you want her to do about it? Give the Oscar back and ask people to not like her?