Benedict Cumberbatch and his wife Sophie Hunterbatch made their first post-honeymoon appearance last night in London, at Buckingham Palace. They only do royal appearances now, darling. Benedict and Sophie joined Princess Anne, the Princess Royal, for a charity dinner to raise money for the MND Association (MND = motor neurone disease). Benedict is an ambassador for the MND Association and has been for years (that’s why his Ice Bucket Challenge was so over-the-top). Also at the dinner? Stephen Hawking and his ex-wife Jane Hawking. The Princess Royal is the royal patron for the MND Association, just one of her many good works.
Sophie sure loves gowns with pockets, doesn’t she? I don’t have the designer ID on this, but considering she wore so many Erdem gowns throughout the awards season and considering Erdem’s pocket-friendly designs, many believe this is Erdem. Could be. Her bump is pretty big too. Where are we on the birth schedule betting? I don’t know who will give birth first, Sophie or Jessica Biel. Both of them look ready to pop.
As for Bendy… well, he has a brief moment where he’s not rushing around doing ten different projects. I believe the Sherlock special has wrapped principle filming and Benedict’s rehearsals for Hamlet will be starting up soon enough. Then he’s got Doctor Strange. Busy, busy, busy. At this event, Benedict wore blue velvet (sigh) and he kept his arm around Sophie throughout the night.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Getty.
I love her look here. She looks glowing and even though Benedict isn’t a crush of mine he looks nice too.
I think this is the prettiest look she has had. Lovely. It suits her.
+1
And that dress! I love the empire waistline (I guess it would be called). And the coloring that trails off and the bump comes out.
Very lovely and she is glowing.
Dress Pockets! Love them.
It’s here I store my inhaler, cell phone, and small wallet. My clutch is so packed with touch-up makeup it’s not funny.
Agree–I love that dress on her. She’s carrying this pregnancy well.
Totes agree.
+2 very lovely
I’m not really invested in Benedict or Sophie, but I agree she looks really really beautiful in these photos!! Glowing.
THat blonde woman in the last pic needs a shoe intervention!
WTF is that??
Blue velvet clogs with stumpy red wedge heels? Even I’m not that fashion challenged.
I can not stop looking at them
Whoa.
Yikes! The 70s are calling. They want those shoes back.
The red heel blends in with the carpet!
Haha it plays tricks on the eyes! I thought they were crocks or perscription shoes.
LOL, for a second I didn’t see the heels and was really weirded out. She’s probably a bit on the older side, so maybe she needs the foot support (??)
She’s not that old to have to wear orthopedic clumpers, that’s just a reallllllyyyy bad fashion choice.
It’s the brilliant Victoria Wood, so she gets an automatic pass from me, haha.
Victoria Wood is wonderful and who cares about her shoes.
I genuinely didn’t realise it was Victoria Wood!
These boots are from Camper (Spanish Shoe Manufactury), I think.
Victoria Wood — funny, funny lady!! Apparently she hasn’t a **** to give about what you think of what she wears. They look comfy!
She’s due soon – my bets are on an early April birth.
Love the Princess Royal – she’s my fave member of the BRF after her father, the DoE.
I said the same below. Love Anne 😀
My money’s on an Easter baby.🐣
Second that. She moved to London last May, was knocked up by July. Nice work, Soph – a year ago a fringe nobody over 35 with a stalled career, bio clock ticking, no husband, no marriage, no nothing – now she’s at Buck House hobnobbing with the royals and preparing to finish her work with a time-honored insurance policy. Dress is very nice, also looks like Erdem to me.
She directed a play with Phantom Limb which made a world tour and featured music by the Kronos Quartet. seriously, when’s the last time anyone who talks about her supposed lack of a career directed anything? Sounds like she’s doing just fine, and it sounds like doing fine is her pattern.
WOW. so much negativity. Venting is good.
@Miss Jupiteiro, did you see 69•S when it was here at the Paramount? So cool. I loved it
LF, I wanted to see it when it was here, but missed out! I have heard amazing things about Phantom Limb though, and I lovE the Kronos Quartet. It was brought in by Arts Emerson, right? They do a really good job.
Re 69s/Phantom Limb – that was in 2011. She hasn’t done anything since. It’s a nice little company but it’s no big deal and sure as hell isn’t going to replenish her dwindling income. I repeat: stalled career, fringe nobody, a little of this-a, a little of that-a . . . she’s going to get far more speed out of her new career as Mrs Benedict Cumberbatch, I assure you. And given Bendy’s notorious narcissism and infantilism, I doubt any woman with a serious career at anything would in the end have suited him as a mate/Mother of My Children. That’s why he and Poulet broke up – she wasn’t willing to give up any hope of a serious career to stay home and keep the home fires burning while Bendy went all out to become a Big Star. Sophie’s perfect for him: some thin creds in the biz but essentially, he’s her career now.
he really doesn’t sound like a catch by the way you describe him.
@Miss Jupitero, yes, Arts Emerson. It was fantastic, the music, the lighting, the staging, and the puppets.
They have KneeHigh’s production of Tristan & Yseult at the Cutler now and it is delightful.
Their scheduler moved up a position and they haven’t announced any of next season’s shows yet so I’m curious.
Seesittellsit, get back to me when you’ve directed or created something, or had a world tour of anything. Cheers!
LF, I look forward to T&I. Also the ART is doing the Mikado with the same group that did Pirates if Penzance a couple years back–they were amazing!
I hope nothing is amiss at Arts Emerson — they really had a knack for bringing g in some very special ial thibgs!
@MJ, yes, I’m really looking forward to The Mikado, although I’m not supposed to know I’m going – it’s supposed to be a surprise birthday present but the friend who is taking me let it slip without realizing. That Pirates was so much fun. As for Emerson, nothing amiss so much as somebody retired, somebody got promoted, and they expressed an intention for more community education based projects
@See, I go to a LOT of productions, attend theater Q&As, and have a friend who is a stage manager. It is as difficult to break through as a director as it is for an actor, perhaps more so as there are fewer jobs, and a stage production can take a year or two of a director’s time just for planning.
Plus, he is responsible for his decision not to use a condom.
I was typing on my phone. Ugh. Please forgive all the typos!
Hmmm… “stalled career,” let’s see:
“In 2015, she is set to direct two pieces written by British composer Benjamin Britten. One will debut at the Aldeburgh Festival and the other at Happy Days Enniskillen International Beckett Festival.”
“Hunter also works as creative director and has developed projects including 2012’s Don’t Major In Debt Student House and Loma Lights (2013), one of the largest public arts programs in New York”
AND 69 S was on tour through 2013. Sounds like she has been pretty busy to me.
Now she is married and starting a family and attending events at Buckingham Palace. If this is the picture of failure and a “stalled career,” sign me the eff up.
miss jupitero –
youre basing your praise for her on one avant garde puppetry play she ‘directed’ in 2011? Seriously? and we can only criticize if we go and find a puppet play, ‘direct it’ and then do pretty much nothing for 4 years?
there arent enough lols in the world…
Edit:
““In 2015, she is set to direct two pieces written by British composer Benjamin Britten. One will debut at the Aldeburgh Festival and the other at Happy Days Enniskillen International Beckett Festival.””
This was a lie. shes not at the aldeburgh festival. the britten stuff she turned into experimental avant garde crap before is going nowhere near this years festival.
“Sounds like she has been pretty busy to me.”
um. nope.
“Now she is married and starting a family and attending events at Buckingham Palace. If this is the picture of failure and a “stalled career,” sign me the eff up.”
err.. she got knocked up by someone successful, so he panicked and proposed and now shes going to boring events with some horse faced royals on the back of his success, not hers. but you think thats impressive? wow.
When she first came on the bendy scene, pre-gag, I looked up her resume. It seemed like a typical beefed up theatre cv. I didn’t really think that much about it, aside from the fact that I know for a fact that this avant garde stuff she is doing does not pay bills. And yet she was living in NYC and the west end of London. Ok.
Anyway, I looked up that stuff you mentioned, Jupiter. Neither of those things, btw, were on her resume the first time I looked it up. This student house debt thing was a 1 day installation, on which she worked with a massive team. She was apparently the “creative director” of something called Vance Garrett productions, who were brought in to assist the crew for the project. I can’t even find anything on this alleged production company.
On this LoMa lights thing..it’s some marketing company? There’s no real information on what they do, nothing about her as a creative director, and some other lady’s linkedin profile is saying *she* is the creative director for said group.
It doesn’t sound like she’s actually been on tour with the phantom limb project. She likely was a collaborator when they were developing it, back in 2011.
My husband has more of a cv just in the past 6 years, and he also has a (more than) full time job. Yes, he’s in the theatre, I know of what I speak.
Her cv seems sketchy at best. It also doesn’t explain how she supports her lifestyle. Theatre like that doesn’t pay you, and most times it costs you money to be involved.
Just my $0.02
I think the LoMa thing was funded by the New York City Economic Development Corporation. From a local Tribeca newspaper at the time: “The EDC has signed a three-year partnership with a company whose name I didn’t catch (and I think the organization is saving that part for a bigger media launch), and the total cost is $5-6 million (not sure if that’s annual), most of which comes from private funding.” She also supposedly had something to do with the new Moynihan Station in NYC (“assisting with arts use of the facility.” which will in fact be an Amtrak station)
You notice how all her stuff is extremely vague? The only place I can find her association with LoMa is her bio.
Edit- GG, the thing you’re referencing is the name of a particular “show” that was put on by an unknown organization (re: that article) funded by the NY Economic Development Council. Her bio says that she is creative director of a NY arts program called LoMa lights. It sounds like 2 different things.
See, this is what I mean. There is a lot of vagueness and ambiguity in her cv. Things that don’t add up or don’t seem to exist anywhere other than her cv.
@**sighs**, her name was on the program as director for 69 S when it came to Boston. When I heard she was associated with it, I checked. And, it was a fantastic production.
Also, the Broadhurst and Royal Court theater thing was for the Enron show. It was a transfer of the same show. And she was not the director. Someone named Gould was the director. She was an “associate” director (read: assistant).
I’m not trying to downplay what she does. It is what it is. I’m just trying to point out the elaboration in her cv that has been presented to the public. I guess we all like to better our cv’s to make us look better, but we also aren’t being touted as theatre geniuses.
Lilac, that’s cool. I’m not disputing that. It looked like a cool show from pictures. From their own info about the show it looks as if the research and the conception/vision were other people, though.
I know it seems like I’m dogging her work. I think it just irritates me that people read her (inflated) bio and come away with the impression that she’s wholly conceptualizing and directing shows or winning awards when in the vast majority of cases she’s working with a very large ensemble of artist who (it seems) are carrying much more of the artistic load. Just what I get from reading more in depth things on her stuff.
I’m just pointing out some discrepancies.
sighs and gg and jojar belong on mythbusters!!! good job debunking the hype, ladies!
That’s because Anne IS Philip but in a dress. 🙂 Actually she is very reminiscent of Philip’s grandmother Princess Victoria of Battenberg (nee Hesse), future Marchioness of Milford Haven. She was the mother of Philip’s mother Princess Alice and did a good deal of the raising of Philip after exile, Alice’s mental instability and his father’s aimless wandering. She was one tough, no-nonsense lady who didn’t care much for her appearance (though she could pull of some jewelry with the best of them) and could be very brusque. She needed it to survive the family tragedies. Her brother Frederick died at 3 of hemophilia, her mother Alice and sister Marie died of diptheria (which Victoria was the first to catch) when she was 13-14, leaving her the ‘mother’ of the family, she was separated from her sister Irene (married to the Kaiser’s brother) and brother Ernst Ludwig during WW1, saw her husband Louis Battenberg stripped of his title of First Sea Lord because of anti-German bias and then stripped of his title when the British royals converted to Windsor (he became 1st Marquess of Milford Haven), lost her eldest niece Elizabeth to typhoid in 1903, had her brother-in-law Grand Duke Serge blown up by anarchists in 1905, saw 2 sisters (Grand Duchess Elizabeth who was a nun by then and the Czarina), a brother-in-law and 5 nieces/nephews massacred in Russia in 1918, had her husband die an early death in 1921, saw her daughter Alice and her family driven out of Greece in 1917 and again in 1922 (during which time George V prevented his cousin Andrew from the firing squad), her eldest son die of bone cancer in 1938, Alice’s childhood deafness and then years in and out of mental institutions throughout the 30s, her pregnant granddaughter Cecilie be killed in an air crash along with Ernst Ludwig’s widow, Cecilie’s husband and their 2 sons while on their way to London in 1937, Cecile’s surviving daughter Johanna die of meningitis at age 5 just 2 years later, her granddaughter Sophie’s husband killed in WW2 (and being separated from her German relatives again). She, along with her son George (and after George’s death Lord Mountbatten) are the ones who stepped in and gave Philip any sense of guidance and stability. George Milford Haven’s death was a severe blow to Philip, just 16. But after all that, she was at least able to witness her grandson Philip’s happy marriage to the future Queen of England and the birth of the future King, Charles. As Queen Victoria’s reputed favorite granddaughter (and she was herself born at Windsor Castle) it must have made her extremely happy and proud to know her descendants would one day sit on her grandmother’s throne. And I think she would get a huge kick out of Princess Anne who could practically be her reincarnated. Victoria died not long before Anne’s birth.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again– I’d love a fancy dress with pockets. When I’m at some event, I feel awkward and don’t know what to do with my hands. Pockets would be awesome.
+1. Also you can carry things in pockets, so you might not have to carry a clutch.
(Also, she looks nice here.)
I love pockets on dresses too.
Pockets are the best.
Pockets really are amazing. I hate having clothes without pockets because if I start to feel uncomfortable, I instinctively feel for pockets to slip my hands in. I don’t know what it is about pockets that just make me feel more comfy.
I bought my wedding dress specifically because it had pockets. I LOVED THEM. Perfect for tissues and lip gloss!
+1 Finally, a fashion trend I can get behind. Except I hope it’s permanent, not a trend.
I was taught as a child that keeping your hands in your pockets is bad manners especially if you are talking to someone.
Me too. Everyone too. Except American.
I love princess Anne, she’s the coolest of them all
Agree! She’s one of my royal favorites.
Forget the Cumberbumpers. THE PRINCESS ROYAL!!!!
Yes! Anne reminds me of Princess Margaret, particularly with her trademark ‘up do’. Andrew has always looked like his mother, Anne like TQ’s sister, Charles is a little like his grandfather and Edward is a bit of a mix of both parents.
Harry has a look of the DoE about him.
Don’t like or care about the royals but really, princess Anne’s hair has been the same for about 40 years, just a big shapeless lump of hair that could have moths in it, for gods sake get it cut. sophie looks nice, bendy looks like bendy, and a little fake tan-y in the first pic.
Now I cannot unsee that his wife and Princess Anne actually look alike, especially when she has her hair swept back in a Princess Anne styled updo like at the Oscars. Yikes.
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article5212340.ece/alternates/s615b/Benedict-Cumberbatch-Sophie-Hunter.jpg
I cannot unsee that he and Princess Anne look alike.
They do!
Triplets
Didn’t CB recently report that there’s a teenager who looks like Bendy? It’s the first step of the space invasion – everybody starts looking like intergalactic lizards.
Like in the Matrix movies, Agent Batch is a self-replicating virus that refuses to go away. He has infected the CB website and is now auto-generating Cumberthreads daily.
By the look on his face in that top picture I think BC has just realised she looks like Princess Anne too.
LOL he does!
LOL best comment on the thread by far
^^^ YES! I saw that too!
I’ve thought the same thing; never imagined I’d see them together!
Finally someone saying it, it was the first thing I noticed and it’s a source of amusement to me of no end, lol. I also love how she’s now smiling like her life depends on it, baring her teeth and all! So much w. her being uncomfortable about her full smile…
Except every time either one of them gets criticized online at the next photo op they do EXACTLY the thing folks say they would need to see to believe.
It’s like they direct their behavior based on gossip site feedback.
Also true!
So much nesting going on. My original bet was April 20th. I think I’ll stick with that. Why is she wearing a holey knitted sweater as a skirt over her dress?
April Fool’s Day is my bet.
Apparently he didn’t bother helping her waddle out of the car lol — and they both looked miserable in one photo they posed for.
I saw that! Didn’t help her out of the car, didn’t help her up the steps. He actually got out of the car first, wandered away, and let someone else help her out of the car! So much love!
And then says to some reporter? Journalist? That he didn’t know that he needed to stop for a few questions….he really sounded up his own arse there.
Wow, just watched it on Daily Fail
Hmm, wow. Yeah, just…wow
Please, the press will ALWAYS want to ask questions. Instead of coming across like a tool saying ‘I didn’t know…’ he could have said ‘not this evening’.
For a cause that he’s apparently passionate about, he could have given a few soundbites to the press to promote the charity. Maybe he didn’t want to get asked about his ‘private’ life *eyeroll*
As for Sophie – she looked knackered/p’d off when she got out that car. I imagine she’s not feeling particularly comfortable, and i do feel for her a bit as she has to deal with pissybatch. Great look for her thou.
Betti He’s been off his game for about 4 1/2 months now. Wonder what happened back then to change him so much? Hmmm?
It wasn’t exactly a normal red carpet, it was a charity event hosted by the Royal family with a few photographers outside the Palace who were I’m sure heavily vetted in order for them to be allowed onto the grounds, so I doubt he’d have been asked anything awkward or improper. He could have stopped to answer a couple of questions. Even if they did ask him, I kind of feel a pro would have been able to deflect to bring the attention back to the event.
The last few months have shown he’s not really “in command” of his professionalism. He can’t think on his feet if he’s in bad form, so just comes across a bit pissy.
Betti: I’m sure he was afraid some reporter would ask when Sophie is due LOL
He’s coming from the other side of the car unless he climbed over her? So she gets out of the car before he even reaches her door then some dude distracts him.
IDK I guess took his answer differently too, as “I wasn’t told there’d be anything beyond phototags out there so we didn’t come early enough to stand out here and enter on time.” He gave soundbites once inside, so talking to the press was okay.
why would sophie be knackered? unlike most women having to work full time until they give birth, she does nothing except go on holiday.
I have been wondering about the skirt part of her dress, too! Does it look like it was torn out? And is it the style, or did something tear it?
April 17th.
I think Sophie looks really good here. I like pockets. These are the first photos where the Cumbers actually look comfortable and happy together. Good for them.
They do actually manage to look natural and comfortable with eachother for a change. Maybe Ben has stopped being a sulky baby and owned his choices. I must say it does seem like he is constantly in the public eye now, maybe it’s just due to increased demand. I was kind of hoping he would go quietly into that good night and stay out of the tabloid for a few weeks.
I think they had a disagreement before they got out of the car.
His face in the thumbnail picture is hilarious.
She looks great. Love the dress.
I’m so bored with Cumbershenanigans but I clicked for Hawking. He’s a good ol’ sport, isn’t he? Turning up for charity functions and all sorts. He’s just done a sketch for the Comic Relief telethon with David Walliams – hilarious and very non-PC. Someone should tell Jeremy Clarkson there’s a right and a wrong way of doing non-PC humour!
Doubtful Clarkson would listen but Hawking definitely is a good sport.
So Sophie can smile for royals.Princess Anne has a reputation for being the most hard working royal and has my respect.
Rumour has it that ITV are starting up a new show and want Clarkson. Arrogant bigoted man that he is.
Yeah, sure. You just can’t stop obssessing over them.
And……you are on this gossip website.
What is it with benedict ? He feels like he’s GOT to put his arms around her all the time, it always looks so fake, it’s like he’s always got to be touching someone, maybe he did’nt get enough cuddles as a child lol
As the Bard said, “methinks the [fill in the blank] doth protest too much” – he knows perfectly well that there’s so many out here who know this was a shotgun coup by Sophie and that there’s something fishy about the relationship. This is his pathetic attempt to say No no no no no I’m THRILLED she tricked me into marrying her on the eve of a huge awards season and forced me to rearrange my entire personal life instead of running the kind of Oscar campaign my chum Redmayne did!
Perfect analysis, sees.
@seesittellsit- agree with all your posts here and made me choke on my coffee. You’re my new fave CB commenter. Cheers! 🙂
It’s interesting that she didn’t go to the Pre-BAFTA party that was hosted by the royals, but now that they are married she goes.
oh you lot, give it a rest with these “trapping” comments. it takes TWO people to make a baby, no one can trap anyone.
Yes, love seesittellsit too.
And it sounds like ell doesn’t know much about how the world works. Poor thing. I hope she’s still in school. She’ll be in for a shock all the same.
lol what? it seems like I know more than you about sexual education. like you know, the FACT it takes two people to conceive a child and no one forced bc not to use protection. it was a CHOICE.
No one said anything about sex education: congrats on knowing how babies are made but it doesn’t mean you know anything about sexual politics and games people play, and you don’t. And he wasn’t wearing a condom? So you’re psychic too, or were you there?
lmao at “sexual politics and games people play”, why are you all so determined to turn it into some conspiracy? where I come from it’s called being horny and reckless, that’s it.
what gets to me is that it is SO misogynist to imply women “trick” men by getting pregnant, because guess what, if men bothered to take precautions it will simply not happen. it’s so sad this is coming from other women who should know better.
and no, I don’t wanna hear how you know women who do just that, because that’s beside the point; the point is that it’s a man’s responsibility as well to take measures not to father children if he doesn’t want them. so it was on HIM. if he got tricked into marrying anybody it’s only because he didn’t bother to take responsibility, so tough luck. i’m so nhf the poor bc got tricked narrative. ugh.
I think his PR read all the comments starting with the NY premiere of TIG about how they could barely stand to be near each other. It took about three months, but now he’s overcompensating going the other way. Still not believable. Still dead eyes when he thinks he’s off camera.
Stephen Hawking is thinking,,, I thought Eddie was coming? Oh no, I’m in the wrong parallel universe, this is one Sherlock won the Oscar for playing me – He was rubbish. I must recalibrate my quantum maths and get back through the wormhole and get to the right the party this time.
That’s what I was thinking. Where’s Eddie?
Eddie is filming The Danish Girl somewhere.
His wife is not so in love with famewhoring maybe?
From what I’ve seen Eddie’s wife is usually looking down and avoiding the cameras in pap pics, so she seems genuinely not enamored with it.
I understand that Benedict filmed a Stephen HAwking biopic for TV years ago, so he must have been supporting MND ever since, he probably met with SH before too, who knows.
Benedict has been an Ambassador for MND for 11 years and has been very active in the charity. He met Hawking when he acted in the film Hawking and has met him a few times since. Eddie starred in TTOE and is a supporter for MND but is not an Ambassador, as well as the fact he is filming at the moment.
BC also narrated several of Hawking’s science documentaries.
Big fan of the hard working Princess Royal, she would have made a fabulous Queen!
If you look back on British Royalty really its only the Women that were any good at their job – we would be some stubby 3rd world damp backwater ( rather than some 1st world damp backwater) if Liz 1 and Victoria hadn’t gone out and done some serious power building.
Yay for girl power!
Some say power building, some call it colonialism. Potato potahto.
That’s how it was done back then – its still done now in a slightly different way by the Americans and Chinese currently , im not saying its not sh*tty, but every Country, Tribe, Cultural group in the world given the opportunity to grab some for themselves has done so usually with the express help of some local leaders who are also on a Power grab.
Im just pointing out as far as their Job Title is concerned back then they did very well –
Why bring the Americans in it?
As soon as I saw the last picture I thought, “That looks like a hairy Michael Ball!” then I clicked on it, and it is Michael Ball! I have no idea why I’m so excited to see a glimpse of him on celebitchy.
Sophie’s hair looks so shiny! Pockets on dresses are the future too.
If only all of the Royals were as hard-working and badass as Princess Anne I might have been a Royalist.
Well, most of the family do their bit and more to support TQ, you don’t hear of their work (i.e. the Wessex’s, Duke of Kent, Duke/Duchess of Gloucester, Princess Alexandra) as they are not really covered by the press.
Search the Court Circular:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/CourtCircular/Todaysevents.aspx
For future events:
http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsandDiary/Royaldiary/Locationsandtimes.aspx
Whoa, Sophie is actually smiling with her teeth for once!
They look a lot whiter than before. Maybe she waited till they were spiffed up. Honestly, I probably would too.
shes so had her teeth fixed. the cv aint the only thing getting a spit and shine.
so much for not wanting to be in the spotlight.
What is bad about it if true?
Well, it is telling that SH looks more happy in those pics than BC. BC looks drunk here actually. Now she can go to the big parties like this with royals. Cause last year she was a nobody.
Why are her hands in her pockets while in front of royalty?
Because she is lacking manners. Even if not in front of a royalty, in my books this is a no-no.
I mentioned this below. I was in choir. I would get yelled at for putting my hands in my pocket. It was when I first started doing choir so I was nervous. She should know better though if she was given protocol before and that she went to St. Pauls.
whoa! her bump got big! it wasn’t that pronounced in the pictures of their arrival back from the honeymoon. maybe it was the outfit?!?
Crinoline
It was definitely the outfit. The pap photos from Tahiti of her bare tummy show that she is definitely far along – she must be close to 8 months
She really does look like she is 8 months now and I don’t think it is the dress.
The Missus looks great! Such a pretty smile.
Repel the man who visit to a grave of his wife on Valentine’s Day.
Get in a lift before the earlier passenger get off.
Talk with royalty with hands in the pocket.
So classy.
I love pockets, but even I an unapologetic fence sitter regarding Royalty think you should get your hands out of your Goddam pockets if you are talking to Princess Anne…
Nannies are so mad that everyone is on that lmao. It’s true though. I would get a verbal a** whoopin when I had my hands in my pockets during choir practice.
“Mr. Cumberbatch, can we have a few words?”
“I wasn’t told that I needed to, sorry.”
:/
They look nice though.
“I wasn’t told there would be interviews, sorry.”
I was just saying this up above, but pretty sure he meant he came too late to talk outside.
Yeah not seeing the problem here. He was polite he just didn’t answer questions.
he looked a total dick. hes at a public event and he was asked for a few words. thats all.
a chance to direct things to the charity hes supposedly there for maybe? nope. hes not answering questions. ffs.
Bendy needs to either give up the make up or at least blend it down his jawline. Major demarcation line in the video when just going into palace
Gosh, she totally hit the jackpot – he seems like a good husband material and she’s going to have such an interesting life too. Good for them!
If by “interesting life” you mean “nasty divorce and custody battle” then sure
You couldn’t pay me to be with him right now.
(See what I did there?) 😉
Err…mine doesn’t make sense now because the other one got deleted.
Shrugs
It’s OK, I saw that other one. I wanted to say, “Not jealous, just terribly sad for Mr. Cumberbatch who is a shell of the man he was a year ago.”
Is it me or do there seem to be more *ahem* pr commenters on the last couple of posts?
No, sighs, it´s not just you. Not sure if some of them are sarcastic, they are so over the top.
Got the same impression. Same thing happened awhile back IIRC.
IDGAF about Cumberbatch tbh, but all the negativity aimed at his SO is trite as hell, so I started commenting in favor of the missus because I’m just contrary like that.
Yes a bunch of drones, some we’ve seen before, all parroting the same lines.
I agree Claire, these posts have been taken over by a bunch of drones all parroting the same rubbish and anyone daring to say something positive is accused of being PR.
PR!!! ???
Yeah right!
Totally agree **sighs**. Someone’s PR machine is hitting the Internet now. Interesting indeed. I thought they were nesting. It’s getting too over the top now. Stop trying to make Fetch happen. It isn’t going to happen.
Snorts:)
I always wonder why people say he has no chin. It’s there. It’s actually kind of long. What he lacks is a jawline. There’s no jawline whatsoever. The cheekbones are nice though.
Oh I agree he has chins aplenty. It’s the lack of jaw that makes him look flabby.
Need to start a poll: what is Sophie fingering in her pockets? Any guesses??
What has it got in it´s pocketsessssssss, my preciousssssssss?!!!!
Maybe her hands are always cold?
One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.
Hahahahahahahaha!
Her golden ticket. She carries it everywhere!
LOL!!!
BC’s you know whats?
My dirty mind……I had to giggle.
It’s a little strange that people here deride on Sophie’s career so much. Someone can honestly try their best and still not be successful because of a variety of factors (some of which are completely beyond their control). I wasn’t aware that this is now something to shame someone for.
People deride her career because her CV was shined up by his PR people to make it sound like she was a super-successful known quantity on the scene.
Some folks don’t like BS or revisionist history.
And she certainly loves being in the spotlight while on his arm. He has even been quoted as saying so.
Well, I haven’t been following any of this too closely, but I personally never got the impression that she was being painted as one of the greats or whatever. The few articles I read basically just reported that she’s a director, actor and singer – all of which is true, even if she hasn’t found the type of success that Benedict has.
I don’t see what’s wrong with her loving the spotlight? I mean, most artists do whether or not they care to admit it. I don’t see the need to pick on her for that when that comment could easily apply to 95% of people in the arts.
If you “haven’t been following any of this too closely,” then you don’t know what we’re referring to when we talk about the blatant lies that were told about her career on the assumption no one would notice.
With all due respect, it’s exactly people like you who weren’t paying attention who were the target audience for those stories. They included headlines like “Benedict Cumberbatch’s Baby Mama Sophie Hunter Is Almost Too Good for Him” and the breathless prose from People Magazine, “Here are five things to know about the smart, accomplished and beautiful Mrs. Cumberbatch-to-be. (Spoiler alert: Prepare to be even more jealous than you thought possible.) “
The shaming comes from the fluffing up of her cv. Once she got connected to BC, someone went nuts bigging up her imdb and Wikipedia pages which before were negligible or non-existant. She’s given sole credit for directing things in which she was only part of a cooperative. She’s listed as having won a prize for a play. No, the prize was awarded for the co-op to put on the play and once they did, it received poor reviews and closed after about a dozen performances. As for her acting, please, please, go to youtube. Check out the octopus video and definitely don’t miss In the Meadow, in which she does some of her best acting. There’s even a Midsomer Murders she appears in. The director is probably still sorry that he didn’t choose a block of wood for that part. About the only thing she’s done in the last three or four years are a couple of car commercials for Spanish TV. She’s just a passenger in the car exhibiting laughable acting skills. Her greatest talent seems to be attending parties and grinning at the camera. She’s aces there.
Well, Sophie is not unsuccessful. Probably no super talent no super success not (yet) oscar worthy. But that is hardly a crime.
tbf she IS pretty unsuccessful. a few weirdo avant garde experimental plays with middling success at best isnt successful. also, is she was successful she would be an actual *working* theater director instead of trying to also be actor/singer/artist and shes not.
hence the fact she tries to sing, act and be a performance artist by putting a pg suit on and crawling on the floor with some equally stupid people. its the mark of a rich kid who doesnt need to earn a living. they want to be seen as the jack of all trades and they flit from one thing to the next just for the fun when she actually cannot do any of these things. she truly cant act for starters.
but i dont remember anyone implying this was a crime? its just really really annoying and a big kick in the teeth to actually talented people who have worked their asses off to get where they are.
Can’t comment on what her Wikipedia page immediately looked like after the news about her being involved with Bendy broke, but it seems fine now? Her page does say she was the co-director of one of the plays, not the sole director. But anyway, isn’t it actually quite normal for directors to only put out shows every 2 – 4 years? As far as I know, most don’t work at the pace of, say, Woody Allen.
@ Jobar Pinks
So if one flits from singing to acting to directing and back and forth again then this is somehow not serious? Many singers paint, for example Sting, Ron Wood … Many actors try their hand at design or opening hotels and restaurants: Brad Pitt, Robert de Niro, Reese Witherspoon.
A lack of success doesn’t mean she is a not-serious-about-art trust fund baby. Cause art, baby. It is unpredictable and a lot of success in art is down to luck. Most other professions don’t work like that but if you work hard you can expect to get somewhere. Not so in art.
The hype around Sophie is certainly somewhat annoying. And I do wonder how many people on this site would feel if their modest careers would be torn apart and trashed because the hype around their marriage is disliked by people.
um. all the people you listed are VERY successful people ho branched out into something else. she is not a very successful person who has jumped from one bad performance to another. she cant act, she cant sing and yes i would definitely say she is not serious about her ‘art’ seeing as she pretentiously thinks writhing around on the floor in a fat suit and sitting on a squid is ‘art’. its butt clenchingly awful.
she doesnt need to earn a living. obviously. because there is no way what shes done would earn hardly anything. so hence the jump from one thing to the next.
and people arent ‘tearing her career apart’ because of this showy tabloid union. as has been said several times on this thread alone, people are sick of her suddenly being centre stage and the lies that have been pedalled about her career and the nonsense wuv story trying to be forced to the public.
See Alice’s post. It’s more that people are trying to paint her as this extraordinary talent when she…well…isn’t.
I agree. You bring up a good point. If everyone who tried very hard and had talent became successful we wouldn’t have so many unemployed actors and actresses.
We’re not deriding her “career”. We’re deriding the fact that she basically hasn’t got one and the few things she’s done were hugely inflated the moment their engagement was announced. The Lacuna theater had to put out a press release correcting the claims about her relationship with them. She’s tried for about 15 years to break into modeling, acting, and theater directing. She’s actually not Thea Sharrocks and she WAS cooling her heels in SoHo when she “reconnected” with a man who apparently lit no sparks for her in 2009 before he was Sherlock, Khan, the world’s Internet Boyfriend, quite a bit more well to do, and a potential Oscar winner. Odd she never turned up pregnant before she was over 35 and hooked up with the biggest fish she’d ever gotten her hands on just in the nick of time, eh?
Yes, it was the obvious puff job they did on her immediately after the engagement was announced that gave birth to my skepticism. My BS meter went off with headlines like “Why Sophie Hunter Is Better than You” and stories licking her boots over her sparse employment history. I was already suspicious that he’d suddenly gotten engaged to someone we’d only ever seen maybe twice before although he himself was often seen at public events, and the blatant puffery set off alarm bells. Right away it seemed someone was pushing her on us for some reason.
The idea that we were supposed to be awed by her meager accomplishments was an insult that belittled his regular audience. It went along with the clear effort by the media to cast his fans as jealous of his fiancée. I still haven’t figured out why but I notice that it still is going on to this day. It’s amazing how many people have accepted it as canon that she’s an amazing and distinguished person, when really she’s an also-ran who was languishing in obscurity when she was plucked from it through her association with BC.
P.S. No shame in being an also-ran; I’m sure I could be considered one, too. Difference is no one is writing articles about how I’m a successful opera director.
Exactly, Lu. When an article says that she “breezily runs four theatre companies” (think that one was in the Independent!) or that she is directing two operas right around the time she is due to give birth, people are going to question.
Don’t forget the comparisons to Diana and Amal. Ha!
That is an insult to Diana’s memory. She already had to go through enough bs from the media while amongst the living.
First I have to share how much BC and SH looks bookend each other, their looks are startlingly similar. This is not to deride them as they both possess similar attractive features.
The question I have is why would Ben’s PR team or Sophie’s PR team feel the need to exaggerate her CV? Why does her legend need to be equal or greater than Ben’s? There is nothing inherently wrong with her average art career. Her career precisely reflects the choices she made up to this point in her life, as does Ben’s career. I see no right or wrong with either of their careers. Why is there this push from PR/Media gurus to enhance a wife’s CV to equal or eclipse her husband? For example: Amal was/is an immigration attorney working in London without the assistance of makeup artists and wardrobe stylists when she and George were dating. Now she is labeled a fashion icon, human rights leader and all around perfect woman who happens to be married to George Clooney. Why the reinvention? Who exactly did George, or in this case, Ben fall in love with? I’m quite sure neither men will say it was their impeccable CV of their wives that caused them to fall in love with them. So why the need to reinvent their respective spouses in the media?
Most folks with an unsuccessful ‘art’ career get a real job by the time they are 35 years old. They can still do ‘art’ on the side, but have some legitimate source of income, too. Seriously, getting a real job is so much easier than sucking up to rich people you don’t even like. I’d be more impressed if I found out she’d been waiting tables in NY instead of flitting around with socialites the last few years.
Exactly. Here’s another angle no one’s talked about yet: women start to look for a man to start a family with years in advance, to figure out compatibility and plan financially. Yet she was leading an aimless bohemian lifestyle with all her rich friends right up until last May, with BC no where on the scene. And then BAM overnight, she’s pregnant, and then engaged to him. For someone whose life trajectory was not pointing to any signs she was ever going to settle down, she sure flipped and became middle aged matron within weeks (she started with him at Hay Festival in late May, then pregnant by August, maybe July. They didn’t even spend the summer together).
Claire, that’s an interesting point. I mean, we know next to nothing about her life save the endless party pix and the occasional short article or mention in an article about someone else, but on the surface, what you say appears to be true.
P.S. The turnaround for both of them from free-and-easy to shackled-with-baby-on-the-way is whiplash-inducing. I feel sorry for them because of it. There are people who could be happy with this sudden life change, but they don’t (or at least he doesn’t) look that happy. More like stoic. They sure don’t seem to be having any fun together, despite all their travels and attendance at fancy events.
Sophie’s dress would be totally gorgeous without the feathers. I want to like that they dressed to match but I don’t. Maybe colors complementary to each other would be better. Still. He was in blue velvet. Purrrrrr. He has his arm around her and she looks like she couldn’t care less. Way more enthralled with rubbing royal elbows. Maybe she’s just really too many different shades of effing awkward. Whatever the true nature of their relationship, this marriage was obviously rushed because of baby. Even more obvious by how hard pr is working to rewrite history. Literally. Like no one has screen caps of those old articles. Anyway, she’s really boring. I hope this doesn’t mean he’s boring forever.
Uh that’s not true at all. I saw screencaps of the articles saying they dated a few months before the engagement (12 weeks into the pregnancy, cough cough) just the other day. Daily mail also said they dated a few months on the wedding article.
Now the DM is saying they started dating in 2013.
Moody. It’s not called the Fail for nothing. I just wonder how long before they, or one of the other rags, changes tack and starts printing the rumors. IIRC, they used to go after BC rather cattily.
Why do you care about it? We don’t live in Victorian times. Stop being so Neanderthal! Well, may be you are from Victorian times.
Agree Luna.
And while we are on the topic can we stop with the misogynistic term, “knocked up” and the outdated term, “shotgun wedding”. This is 2015 not 1950.
@moodgirl, I think DM said that a few days ago. Don’t worry, it’ll change again LOL. Thankfully the initial correct report that they were dating only a few months (which is also a pretty open minded estimate) will always be around.
And anyone who thinks they would have gotten married had she not gotten pregnant, hence a shotgun wedding: I suggest Mills and Boon for you because that’s the level of reality you’re operating on.
maggie, if youre offended by shotgun and knocked up, thats weirdly prudish and your own problem. because shotgun is exactly what it was.
if its not 1950, perhaps you should be shouting that at cumberbatch, not us. hes the one marrying after a few months of dating because of a kid.
Claire! – I am aware that these two have a short dating history – I believe she got pregnant within a few weeks of them screwing around – I am just pointing out that apparently the DM is working for BC’s PR because the DM has changed it’s own timeline from “dating just a few weeks” to dating since 2013 or got together in 2009. Which should be a huge surprise to OP and Anna James.
For being so middle-class and non-posh Cumberbatch does a lot of hobnobbing with the Aristo set. I kind of think he secretly longs to belong to them.
He’s pushing for the knighthood.
“He’s pushing for the knighthood.”
And you know this how?
“Seems like he needs the validation that will come from a title of any kind.”
Again what leads you to this conclusion?
+1 or so! Succinct, but well said. I get where Bea was going with it. But he wouldn’t care so much about knighthood, if he didn’t care so much about being aristocrat-ish. (Different from “aristocratic.”)
@oops yes I agree. Seems like he needs the validation that will come from a title of any kind.
Daysandnightsonair, you do know why he was at the palace don’t you? He has been an Ambassador for MND for 11 years and has been very closely involved with the charity as well as playing Hawking in a BBC film. It was a charity dinner to raise funds and he was invited as were all the other guests.
Is it just me or did her belly blow up like crazy since the pics from the Valentino show?? Can a dress really make that kind of difference?
I thought I was on the wrong blog today. So many lovely comments from new people about the accomplishments of SH.
Very interesting.
it was just the dress. i’ve seen a photo from valentino show from profile and she was already huge back than too. also the biggest increase in size is in last trimester and she’s obviously in 8th month. i know there are some people who are questioning this pregnancy, but for me, this is really easy case: guy hires a PR gilfriend for awards season and she offers him other “services” too. she’s smart and tells him she’s on the pills. he doesn’t wrap it up, boom, she’s pregnant. guy is posh and does the right thing without having feelings for her whatsoever. Seriously, she hit a jackpot, because Cumberbatch was naive idiot. He deserves it.
nah, i saw that pic too. the one with wintour? she looked really flat there. strange theories about fake pgs are off the wall to say the least and i dont go with that obviously, but that really was one huge leap from that to now. the ‘profile’ one, the dress was stretched out while she was sitting, so that didnt say much.
who knows. *shrugs*
Where’s this profile Valentino photo?
@Felice I think I saw it on SoGo. I remember her saying that Soph was “enormous” or “so pregnant!” or something based on a profile photo from the Valentino show, whereas I saw it and thought no such thing. Photos of her pregnancy seem to constitute a Thematic Apperception Test test for many people.
Her bump was described as being “nascent” in that Valentino dish towel poncho she wore on January 28th by a journo from WWD.
On the Bora Bora pics it looked huge. So in the matter of 5 weeks it really exploded.
I do believe she is pregnant, otherwise BC wouldn’t have married her.
I just find her belly the most unusual one I have ever seen.
Well, it goes up and down, doesn’t it? From enormous in Bora Bora to “teeny” a few days later in Los Angeles…. From gigantic in the supposed sneaky shot of her at Chanel in Paris to the flat stomach in that Valentino dress. I can’t make sense of it. Even if she has a baby (and I just can’t seem to believe that anyone would try to pull off such a fake-looking thing, so it must be real), the size variations will never get explained to my satisfaction.
Oh those Bora Bora pics don’t really exist, remember? They were removed after 3 hours ;p She was never that big. PR wants you to know that there were never any photos of them in Bora Bora ;p
They actually do. LOL
I think what I find most interesting about people’s reactions to Sophie here is just how one-sided it is. People seem to be very quick to jump to conclusions and believe the absolute worst about her. I’m aware that this is a gossip site, but people might as well be fair about it, you know? Sophie may not be the real villain here. I mean, for example…
1. Sophie becoming pregnant past the age of 35. This happens to a lot of women, even accidentally. Some people also add something like “for the first time,” but I have no idea how they would know that unless they’re Sophie herself or her doctor. She did not necessarily become pregnant intentionally. Quite frankly, if there is some deviousness here, why hasn’t anyone considered that maybe Benedict sabotaged their birth control in his desperation to become a father? He certainly wouldn’t be the first man to do that.
2. The fluffing up of her CV. Perhaps she had nothing to do with this and it was 100% Benedict’s PR. Some would then say that she should have stood her ground if that were the case. I would agree with that, but I personally would still have sympathy for her. I mean, it can’t be easy to hear someone you care about basically say that they have to do this so that you will be seen as being “worthy” of him. Maybe he really spooked her over how she would be treated if she wasn’t some kind of Wonder Woman. We really have no idea.
If she had nothing to do with it, why did she say during Fashion Week that she was doing a festival in June when the festival confirmed she wasn’t attached?
Googling Sophie Hunter + festival + June only brings up an article saying that the organizer for the Isle of Wight Festival told her and Benedict that they should come back for the festival in June. Perhaps I’m reading it wrong, but that to me just indicates that he suggested they attend.
But taking your comment at face value, then perhaps all that would mean is that she’s participating in whatever plan BC’s PR laid out. Still not good, but again, who knows exactly why she’s going along with it.
Try Googling Sophie Hunter + Anna Wintour + wwd. “The British theater director and actress is preparing to direct two pieces written by British composer Benjamin Britten. One will debut at the Happy Days Enniskillen International Beckett Festival, and the other at the Aldeburgh Festival. Hunter is also due to give birth around the same time.” Aldeburgh Fest is in June, the program is online and she is nowhere in it. Where else would they have gotten this info except from Sophie herself?
How can a man sabotage birth control?????????? When he does, it’s pretty visible, you can’t really miss it, can you???
There’s a tumblr post going around about men, i mean f***boys, crinkling the wrapper while the girl is turned around to make it seem like it’s on. I don’t think he would do that though.
Poking holes in condoms, flushing pills down the toilet, threats of abuse…
By the way, not to pick on you, but I should also point out that these behaviors are more common than many people realize. I think something like 16 or 18% of women have experienced reproductive coercion. It’s a very good thing for everyone to be aware of, but because stereotypes dictate that it’s women who do things like this to ensnare a man, many women don’t realize what’s happening until it’s too late.
I can’t believe he’d do this. Seriously, I cannot.
Oh good grief.
Oh yeah, I can believe it. Sure, he sabotaged it. That’s why he looked so miserable right after the engagement. That’s why he seemed to not want to touch her at all the appearances. That’s why he looks like death on a stick the last four months. He’s 38 and a year ago looked younger than his age. He said he’d like to play Sherlock as an old man. Well, now he could play Sherlock in his fifties without needing aging make-up. Cheerful, funny, engaging, attractive BS(Before Sophie). Grumpy, pissy, stressed and ragged out AS. If you haven’t been following closely, you might not know the difference.
For what it’s worth, I don’t think he would do this either, but my point in saying this is that we simply do not know. Jumping to these conclusions about Sophie looks just as nonsensical and inherently nasty as what I’m saying about Benedict.
@K
If you can tell me what Sophie has done so far in this relationship that would indicate that she is really in love with BC, or that she is good for him, because he seems so much happier than before she came into the picture, then I would agree with you that we are all just out for blood and one sided.
As for the theory about the guy manipulating the condom. I think a girl at 36 would know how it feels with or without the little umbrella. She would also feel “the rain” if it had holes in it.
Alice, you are right on the money. He looks pretty beat for someone who might have plotted this whole scheme. If it was him she would have walked the red carpet at the LFF with him. Only after the pregnancy was verified she was allowed to be at his side.
Successful actor vs, unknown part time theater anything. who gains from this scenario???
^^^^^ This…excellent summation Hexentanz.
Yes Hex has it on the money as usual. No indication whatsoever BC planned for this, let alone pulled any kind of trickery. Those first few weeks of the campaign in November he looked like a man in shock and on the verge of a mental crisis.
And he was seen on dates in the company of other women during the early months of her pregnancy… pre engagement, pre preggo announcement.
See Secret Cinema blonde.
Exactly Claire ,since November he seems like a different person. That pic from GMA when he looks more than sad speaks volumes.
Miss Melissa, great point, maybe some people should look up Kinvara and him and look at the dates they were seen together. And while they are at it, check SH and friends over summer 2014.
To me it looks like SH gets happier at every outing since they started showing up together. She is really beaming on those pics with Princess Anne. She looks like she has reached her goal. BC on the other hand looks done. Look at their faces when they get out of the car- they are still newlyweds. There is no tenderness or care on either side. For BC to be like that towards her, after he said so many times before how much he wanted to be a father, tells a story. And it’s NOT a fairytale.
K, I don’t know if you’ll read this, but I’d just like to say that I really like your posts. No snark. Truthfully, I don’t agree with what you say, but I really like your attempt at being balanced.
I think the Batch we see now is the real one, and he’s going to stay, unfortunately. With a baby on the way, I don’t think he’ll be walking away any time soon, if ever. Whatever the hell happened to/with him, happened. PissyBatch should be a new moniker for him. Or perhaps just SomberBatch.
I agree. K is trying to see the other side, and admits she might be wrong, but her point is, isn’t there a chance that we’re ALL wrong??? It’s not fair to tear her down for her theories.
I don’t like all the comments about SH “trapping” BC with this pregnancy, but I do think it was an accident, and that BC consequently felt trapped by his bizarre old-fashioned belief that he needed to marry her. He’s made his own bed. Only time will tell if they’re right for each other.
There’s enough proof of his personality prior to becoming famous to say this isn’t the real him we’re seeing. This is what he’s doing to save his career and his pride. As for whether it’ll stay, people change. People grow. I hope that’s the case here. I hope he loses her sooner than later. She is nothing but trouble.
I don’t know why anyone would believe that this might last for any considerable length of time. Is he a complete masochist who will stick with someone who has no problem embarrassing him at events where he is the center of attention? Of sticking with someone who appears to love the camera and flashbulbs more than him? His mother didn’t stick with an unhappy marriage, so he has that example. And as for the current BC being the real one, I don’t believe that the person we’ve seen for about ten years was fake and the one that emerged in the half year SH has been in his life – angry, grumpy, rude, aged – is the real one. Take a look at BTT for an easy pictorial of the changes. Her header shows BC month by month starting with January 2014 up to the present. You have happy, top of the world BC until September, which would be about the time he got the unhappy news from SH. It’s downhill from there – morose, older looking, stressed. No, the current version is not the real one. Whether the real one will come back once he’s rid of her, I don’t know, but I’m not hopeful.
PS A nanny wants to get rid of “knocked up” and “shotgun”. I say get rid of baby bump(not a bump, it’s a boulder) and loved-up(as if), both gag inducing terms IMO.
Alice – I agree with your assessment of BC but I also believe he has no backbone to speak of and his life is now dominated by Sophie. She maintains control of paranoid Benedict by behaving like a crazy woman in public, making a complete a** of him in the process. Combine this with the fact that she will have control over the baby and, unfortunately, we have the new and forevermore BC. What we see now is what we get.
Her presence has definitely tainted him, moody. I’m hoping he’ll grow a pair and show her the door, but that may be a pipe dream. His parents can’t possibly be happy with the turn his life has taken, baby or not. I wish they’d do a heart to heart with him. You know, “You don’t have to take this, Son,” type of talk. Actually, if his star goes down, she might scoot, as she’s in it for the perks, glory and money. Guess we’ll see.
@Alice “Is he a complete masochist who will stick with someone who has no problem embarrassing him at events where he is the center of attention? Of sticking with someone who appears to love the camera and flashbulbs more than him?”
I think he might stay with her for a long time, at least on paper. I truly believe the only reason he married her was to avoid the embarrassment of having a baby mama. So he’ll probably want to avoid a divorce as long as he can or at least until everybody (i.e. the tabloids) has forgotten about her.
Well, let’s hope that during Hamlet or the filming of DS, his real true love appears and knocks him for a loop to help him out of it. That’s what happened with Wanda and she’s happier.
PS. I think having a baby mama would be better for his image, make him look like a player rather than the pu$$y he looks like now.
My 2 cents? This marriage is gonna last till the end of time. She’s the daughter of a divorced couple (and apparently she suffered a lot because of this), so the last thing she’d want is to do the same to her kid.
As for him, he seems the Tietjens type, so perhaps he will be miserable, but he will not divorce her.
Unless something major happens, this union will last. As I said, my 2 cents and I don’t really believe in the greatest love story ever told, Not a bit.
how would anyone know she suffered as a result of her parents divorce?
and if she gave two shits about her kids environment she wouldnt hurriedly marry someone just because she was knocked up and subject it to miserable snipey parents surely?
We know because she has alluded to it in past interviews (when she wasn’t with BC).
I am as puzzled as you about this union. People think we are jealous of Sophie, but personally I like a good mystery. And I would really really like to know what is truly going on…
When I read the armchair psychological assessments, like she’ll never get divorced because her parents divorced, I have to wonder how many people such persons know. Many people whose parents are divorced and are traumatised by it get divorced. Many of my schoolmates who were torn up about their parents divorcing were already divorcees into their mid 20s. It happens all the time. I’m also sick of the tietjens comparison, despite his love of that character and the similarities. He is his own man, unless you think he’s an imbecile.
When i see anyone say he’s in it for the long haul I can’t help flashing back to the expression on his face in the gif of her stomp-off, or the glazed look in his eyes as Emily helps drunk Uncle Benny to his car following an afterparty, or his tipsy hijacking of Alan Leach’s interview, or worst of all, the Oscars RC. His parents, who had supported him for all his 38 years, should have proudly walked alongside them on the RC. Instead, there were BC and SH, his hand velcroed to her back, mugging for the cameras, while Tim followed forlornly about five feet behind and Wanda was nowhere to be seen! And the hotel room selfie!! W and T could have been strangers just passing by for all that they were included in the picture. I don’t understand how he can continue to be that person and live with himself. But that’s the person he has become since his involvement with SH. If he continues like that, I ‘ll find it hard to have an interest or pleasure in his future projects. I don’t think I’m the only one feeling this way.
I never saw video/gifs of Emily helping him in, only heard about it. Can you point me to it? I feel so bad remembering how sad he looked in those first months
The gif was just of the stomp-off. There were a couple of still pics of Emily helping him to his car following an afterparty that SH didn’t attend. It might have been the same night. He just looked so wasted and the expression on his face was heartbreaking, so sad and confused. I’ll check BTT and SoGo and see if they’re archived.
I have a still of the stomp-off. Sophie has a smirk on her face, probably because she knew there was absolutely nothing he could do to stop her ugly behavior. Ben looked devastated, probably because he knew that Sophie had the upper hand and he was stuck. Karon looked like she was just fed up. In my opinion Sophie’s ugly, obstinate, nasty behavior was to put Ben in his place and prove to him that she was in charge and she would make a fool of him if she didn’t get her way.
Haha. I think you’re getting a little too dramatic over his desire to start a family. He’s not a raving psychopath. I appreciate you’re trying to make a point but the two situations aren’t comparable at all.
The idea of him sabotaging condoms and threatening abuse to some woman he’s been dating on and off for a few months in order to force her Into carrying his child is ludicrous and in no way comparable to a woman choosing to become pregnant herself, therefore holding the cards. It’s not mysoginstic to say this happens. It’s fact. Some women do this.
Hi Kat! 👋 A lot of women do this.
They look like brother and sister. So awkward.
I love dresses with pockets. A pocketed maxi dress is pretty much my summer uniform because I hate purses and never carry one after having kids.
Sophie shows her eccentricities whenever she appears in the public place.
Even if she had no job for a long time, it does not seem to be a 36-year-old middle-age woman.
Have a problem of drug or alcohol?
There is a problem of alcohol, drug, suicide and the child abuse to a prostitution experienced person…..
Who knew Sophie had TEETH?!? Seriously, this is the first time I’ve seen a picture of her smiling with teeth; I’ve only ever seen her with her moth closed- smiling but lips closed.
I just want to clarify something – as a woman who has worked all her life at REAL jobs where I couldn’t cool my heels for a few years at a time because I’d have no clothes on my back and no roof over my head, my dislike of Sophie comes from a real recognition of an opportunist when I see one. Having said that, I should add that I don’t particularly care for Cumberbatch, either. But he HAS worked ferociously hard over the last 15 years – she has not. She’s a dilettante. I also think he has a highly inflated view of his potential to be a Hollywood leading man, and with 40 looming, I think what we’re seeing is his RIP Dorkybatch, here is Big Boy Hetero Ben Going for the Brass Ring Now Or Never advertisement. We’ll see how it works.
I agree, as his star has risen in Hollywood so has his ego – he is desperate for the Hollywood leading man roles, sadly he isn’t HW LM material, he’s not pretty enough. He may have talent but he doesn’t have the looks, charisma and personality to carry a big budget movie.
He needs to capitalise on the Oscar nom and hustle for the HW roles but sadly with what he’s signed on for he’s taken himself out of the running for some roles. He really should have stuck with Lost City of Z.
@Betti Agree with everything that you said in that post. I would not worry. The roles that will showcase his uniqueness will come in due time.
Looks like Lost City of Z got moved and crossed right into Hamlet prep time, so I’d guess he had no choice, Betti. Assuming it does get filmed spring/summer like it’s supposed to now, seems very messy!
Agreed on all fronts.
She definitely took advantage of the situation.
Benedict spotted in Edinburgh (Sophie’s Birthday is coming up)
Yep, everytime he goes to Scotland, the whole freaking country starts tweeting about it. It’s weird.
how can anyone be bothered to tweet just because they see dude from the telly. so totally weird.
What is weird is that while in London he’s mostly fine (unless he’s working or at some event), but as soon as he travels elsewhere, the furious twittering starts.
Never understood why skeptics get paranoid over tweets, save the obvious scotland paparazzi baiting. So he’s in scotland. So people are excited to see a celeb. That’s life.
What’s with the ! points? Are you the same hermi and Claire? Or different?
Yes it’s the same girl 🙂 Claire without ! Stopped working for some reason
Lmao, I just read that open letter call through Lainey. Hoooly cow, not enough meds in the world to cure that one! But hopefully enough security.
I hear it makes the skeptical crowd look bad. I wouldn’t put it past his PR to plant that to make us all look bad to be honest. To the casual observer it paints us all with the same brush.
not a plant, sadly. she’s legit, been around for two years or so i heard
She was never totally there in the head though. Most of the skeptics just talk about how baity his PR is, which it is.
meh. just the same kind of weirdness you see anywhere online really. nothing majorly unusual. crazy fans come in all forms. the open letter writers to the cake makers. its all nuts.
tbh i think public shaming of the nuttery like that is a douche move, tho.
I haven’t a clue on generic nuttery on the interwebs beyond pro and anti Brangelina factions of doom, that’s why I was so… I don’t even know how to even describe my reaction. Anyway, why would making fun of such a weirdo be a douche move, as you lapsed in explaining. Honestly, I did feel bad reading it, a quick second, precisely because it’s possible that someone’s mental issues might be fodder for public entertainment. Bon, but then I’m not a head specialist and if you offer yourself to public commentary, I’m gonna react. That woman sounded downright dangerous though. No I don’t think all fans are like that.
Could just be a bad case of self importance as opposed to off the wall-ness.
Fandoms are a funny thing. They are just not important beyond the early stages of a performer’s career, when they can make a difference with small projects.
They can’t support larger projects, you need the general public then, but some members begin to believe they’re more relevant than they actually are.
I suppose that’s not limited to actors. Franchises fandoms are in the same boat, that’s why major studios won’t really cater to them beyond lip service.
you answered your own question. i wouldve thought its obvious why it was a douche move. putting it on a very large platform for public ridicule is a nasty thing to do. yes it it was a crazy thing to write and the person is clearly odd but theyre quite obviously not ’downright dangerous’.
i also didnt say all fans are like that. i said the weirdos exist in all areas of worship. tbf, im more creeped out by the people trying to force presents on him and drawing sour faced pictures of the oh so thrilled couple. they seem to want to be part of his life and get thanks and praise from him. and most of them are grown women. not right.
“sour faced pictures” LOL. But absolutely accurate.
I think I’ve got Stockholm syndrome, I’m actually starting to really enjoy these Ben and Sophie posts…. dear lord, what’s wrong with me!
Yeah, same here, it’s a bit like the Desperate Wives of Celebitchy (amongst whom I gladly include myself, for the record).
I saw a thing on Twitter that he’s pulling out of Dr Strange. Could be clickbait though and nothing from Marvel yet so. . .
What’s the source of the rumour? That’ll give us an idea of how accurate it is. His pr chooses certain gossip sites for controlled leaks
Why can’t Benedict be featured in an article WITHOUT Sophie “theatre director” Hunter’s name being jammed in. Seriously, for someone who has spent most of her life cruising and taking vacations, she is getting a lot of mileage out of this and Benedict is being disrespected.
“Marvel is about to introcude another superhero in the mainstreams as it launch a 2016 debut for the movie “Doctor Strange.” Benedict Cumberbatch is scheduled to lead the standalone movie but rumors of the actor rejecting the role are already resurfacing on the internet. A brand new league of superheroes are about to conquer the cinemas as Marvel plots and twists their cinematic universe towards a spectacular reunion of heroes in the very near future.
Benedict Cumberbatch is the lead star of the television series Sherlock and was recently married to theater director Sophie Hunter. Joaquin Phoenix was the first actor rumored to land on the spot, but Cumberbatch’s name became a more feasible prospect for the role after Kevin Feige saw the sincerity and depth of the actor.”
Read more: http://www.vcpost.com/articles/49051/20150313/doctor-strange-cast-movie-updates-benedict-cumberbatch-rejects-lead-role.htm#ixzz3UHjnCUfP
It’s clickbait. vcpost.com is the only “source” reporting that there are rumors that he rejected the role.
Do remember many articles we dismissed as clickbait later came true. He uses content farms to leak stories.
@Claire!
(From vcpost.com) “Benedict Cumberbatch is scheduled to lead the standalone movie but RUMORS of the actor rejecting the role are already resurfacing on the internet.”
Where are these rumors? I can’t find anything.
It’s not a “leak.” It is clickbait. Again, vcpost.com is the ONLY “source” reporting that there are “rumors” that he rejected the role.”
The article doesn’t make any sense. He officially signed on. Marvel confirmed it/announced it. IF he rejected the role. It would be everywhere. There would be articles about re-casting Dr. Strange. Marvel would have said something.
The vcpost.com article is CLICKBAIT! 🙂
So everything has to make sense to you to have a grain of truth in it all of a sudden? By that standard we can say BC’s marriage, engagement, and baby are all fake because of all the lies and inconsistencies about sources, timelines his PR have put out there. Something’s going on behind the scenes. What it is, who knows, but that article is to serve a purpose and it’s more than gaining ad revenue.
@Claire! “So everything has to make sense to you to have a grain of truth in it all of a sudden?”
I never said/implied that. Someone leaked info about his “private/personal” life to the Tabloids. The “rumors” spread like wildfire. And Karon quickly confirmed the Engagement/Pregnancy/Marriage. In this situation only ONE source has reported that RUMORS have resurfaced that he rejected the role. And Marvel hasn’t said/confirmed anything.
The article did NOT say that he rejected the role. It “claims” that RUMORS of him rejecting the role have resurfaced on the internet.. Again, where are these rumors? Why aren’t there more articles/reports about these rumors? Why hasn’t Marvel come out and said anything? Again, if Benedict rejected the role. It WOULD BE everywhere. Please, Google it. vcpost.com is the ONLY “source” reporting that the RUMORS have resurfaced. (Sounding like a broken record) but where are these rumors?
IF there were rumors that he rejected the role/if he actually rejected the role. Variety/The Hollywood Reporter/Deadline/Comicbook.com would be all over it.
I’m going to try and explain this one more time, because it’s not being understood, and then I give up. Many gossip stories say “rumours”, “sources say”, to give credibility to the story. Does it mean the sources, rumours exist? No. Does it mean the story is false? NO. Just because they’re inflating the story with non-existent “rumours” doesn’t mean the entire story is a lie. This is how gossip works. Look at many of BC’s controlled leaks of the past for proof of that.
“Rumors resurfacing” means they went around before, which they did. That’s what all the trades were reporting when he was leaked as a frontrunner months ago, that he passed because of Hamlet. Then it went to Phoenix, then back to him.
Then you’ve got “The statement from one of the biggest producers of Marvel seals the deal for the lead spot in the film,” later, aka he did not reject the role. What this is is simply bad English. This site posts a lot of oddly worded entertainment news.
@Clarie!
I understand what you are saying. 🙂
But what I have been saying all along is. IF Benedict rejected the role of Dr. Strange. The news would be everywhere. Marvel would have said something by now.
When Benedict dropped out of Crimson Peak and The Lost City of Z. The news was everywhere. So IF Benedict rejected the role of Dr. Strange/dropped out of a Marvel film. It would be EVERYWHERE!
@KT
Thank you! All of that!
1. VC Post is not one of the sites Benedict has (possibly) used in the past for controlled leaks. Those would be Showbiz Spy and Page Six – well-known GOSSIP sites. I had never heard of VC Post before but seems to be financial paper.
2. “rumors of the actor rejecting the role are already resurfacing on the internet” = by posting that they are *themselves* resurfacing the rumors Self-fulling prophecy – I had not heard rumors anywhere else. If he has pulled out at this late date, he could almost kiss his Hollywood career goodbye
More Edinburgh sightings..
(Mizz Bizio Couture Shop Tumblr/Instagram)
“I was out of the shop today so my husband was left to look after it. This lovely couple came in. #cumberbatch #sophiehunter #edinburgh #stockbridge #delightful”
the store where Kris Jenner 2.0 got her dress?
Mummy Hunter got her dress for the wedding from this shop. The shop tweeted about it too
Kris Jenner 2.0 – good one!
I really need to ask her why she wore white to her daughter’s wedding. It reminds me of Toddlers and Tiaras where one of the moms wore her daughters crown and sash during an interview.
I hope he’s not passing on spending Mother’s Day with his 80 yo mother in favor of spending it with his sixtyish publicity loving MIL. That’s just too much!
He actually was seen at the airport, and if you believe Twitter he is probably on his way to China for an event on the 18th
China is tiresome customer.
The pic of SHERLOCK was manip without permission.
Probably, without the consent of him, his name will be used for political purposes.
Mother’s dress is on TFOE. That dress looks like something you would see in a pre-school’s dress-up area .
Ah yes. Mummy ‘watch this space’ hunter. That shop owner actually tweeted she was ‘HONOURED’ that she was wearing something from her shop. Yes..you read right ..’HONOURED’.
That is one of the most shocking things about this entire farce to me. I was pretty speechless that anyone would consider it an honour for an unknown mostly unemployed woman’s mother to have bought a dress from them to wear to her shotgun wedding.
But the world is crazy, so…
They’re obviously blinded by his light, but after just six months of being connected to the Hunters, his light is rapidly dimming.
Probably he visited the shop to pay for the mummy hunter’s dress…..
The Nannies are sharing the video (On Tumblr/Twitter/IMDB) of Benedict “kissing” Sophie at the Oscars. It was an awkward kiss/peck. Sophie pulled away from him and he did not look happy.
He suddenly emaciated from the kiss.
When she fling arms around his neck, he always grimace with pain.
Now, Everybody truly shocking how old he looks.
Do I have to sit through the whole grueling one hour plus to see this peck? I’ve tried twice and still haven’t spotted it.
@Alice
The “peck” is at 49:55.
SoGo has a gif, or if you are watching the video it is 49:55 in. Blink and you will miss it
Someone should tell SoGo to check out “The Truthers” thread on IMDB (Page 14)
IMDB Nanny Ellen claims she knows SoGo’s real identity and claims she has seen a picture of SoGo. She said she won’t out SoGo. But she is baiting people. Ellen said some pretty nasty things about SoGo’s looks.
“She is in fact scarily like the Kathy Bates character in Misery – extremely plain and slightly unhinged looking, embittered, overinvested, middle aged fan”
My word. I find it very hard to believe that he’s not aware of how ridiculous this display at the Oscars looked.
How can he be quite this devoid of any sense of self awareness and general intelligence?
Real couples don’t act like that. And the ones who do at least do it with some consistency. Anyone with some form of cognitive ability can see that it was a big performance at the Oscars. A very badly executed and unconvincing performance.
Is he not embarrassed to be overdoing things so much?
That kiss was excruciating…. And someone needs to tell her she needs a new routine. The slinging her entire arm awkwardly around his neck like a chimp is nothing short of totally bizarre.
SoGo DGAF
Kat. If he can’t see how ridiculous he looks, doesn’t he have somebody who can sit him down and tell him the facts of life? Wouldn’t Karon and perhaps Emily be aware of that silly spectacle? Are they also aware of the other negative chatter going around – the blind items, the largely negative comments in the Fail, the skeptic blogs that point out inconsistencies that are then corrected in the following pap pics? Does somebody, anybody, tell him about this or are they keeping him in the dark? He just seems to be making one misstep after another, where before he seemed so sure of himself and the path he was on.
Why do people want to ‘out’ tumblr blog runners? What difference does it make who any of them are? It’s just fans gossiping about a celebrity. BC’s imdb page has become a f**king joke. I used to enjoy posting over there, but the stupid holier than thou attittude is revolting. And most of all, who gives a f**k what any of the bloggers look like? Besides, “plain and middle aged” could describe wifey-poo! LOL!
You know what is more pathetic than being “overinvested” in a celebrity? Being overinvested in a total stranger who dares to criticize or gossip about a celebrity….
It’s very terrifying to be outed. Wiki Anon was outed but handled it decently (well she called authorities but I guess it was bad) and TFOE outed herself since she wanted it on her terms.
I have come away from this whole farce with a new appreciation of Keira and the way she has conducted herself throughout the whole promotion and her pregnancy. And I’m amused by the way she has her back to S during much of the ceremony, like she can’t get far enough away. According to the seating passes that were tweeted, BC was to sit next to KK and SH on his other side. Wonder who changed that? Someone jealous of their chemistry?
Jealousy or perhaps Ben put the two together to give the appearance that KK and SH get along and he has Kiera’s support. If so, It didn’t work.
Why is this “kiss” making the rounds now? Didn’t the nannies see it when it happened? Sogo had a still of it as her header for a few days after the Oscars. Anyway, the “kiss” makes them look about 80 yrs old.
Because there was a new blind.
Last night I saw a friend who does not read blogs or even follow celebrities’ lives (she didn’t even know BC was married LOL), and she commented on how much he’s changed ever since he became famous (on the basis of interviews she has read or listened to – all work related).
It isn’t true that only rabid fans have noticed his recent change.
I saw the gif of the kiss on SoGo and noticed the look of absolute bewilderment on Kiera’s face. It’s the faces that tell the story about these two – the side eye from the people at PSFF and the Golden Globes after party, the funky looks from people at the Baftas, Kiera and Ben’s own mother at the Oscars – too many are reacting poorly to them. Too make it worse, these onlookers can’t, or don’t bother, to hide their feelings while in public. When insiders can’t tolerate you then you have problems. IMHO, the kiss is so……odd, unrealistic, obviously done to attract attention that it had the opposite effect. A real couple would not feel the need to try so hard.
Has anyone seen the new CDAN that is so obviously about Ben and Dopey? The blind is revealing but it’s the following comments that are most interesting. Please see the link on SoGo.
I didn’t see bewilderment but “oh ffs”. She sees them then turns away with a bit of annoyance or embarrassment. Her husband does the same. As for why his family and friends are saying nothing, I have a strange feeling he’s keeping up appearances with them more than on the red carpet. All signs point to those nearest him being taken in by this.
Agree about Keira’s expression. It seems to be “Ewww, wth has happened to my friend?”
He may be fooling James and Adam, but I don’t think for one minute he’s fooling Loo, Martin, Amanda, Mark, Steven, and certainly not Wanda, Tim, Emily, Tracey and Karon.
He’s not fooling any of the women in his life, that is for damn sure.
…And to quote a famous Brit: some people are so stupid they don’t realize how stupid they are.
He was seen at the England Scotland rugby match today – think Adam was with him.
Hopefully he left her Ladyship in Scotland and will spend Mothers Day with Wanda
I believe Sophie lives in Scotland with her mother.
I’ve wondered if they even live together at his place in London. You’d think there would be at least one picture. No, forget I said that – that’ll be the next pap setup.
You don’t see paps hanging outside private residences so much in the UK, although it does happen. It’s because of some photography laws there regarding public versus personal space and the possibility of location identification. Just not worth it when public spaces, like outside clubs and restaurants, is legally safer.
Lol, THE SUN caught him right away.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/6369745/Benedict-hits-the-ground-running.html
Is he wearing undies?…
that’s from when he was filming sherlock in bristol, not outside his house lol. sun must have run out of things to run
the jacket is hilariously 1980s great, but he looks ill. should not lose weight for sherlock anymore
probably, felice. shit you should if you’re out in public imo
Is the Sun going to run embarrassments like that as leverage to get the wedding pics? I know it must have been cold, but there’s gotta be something better than that. All charcoal, all navy blue, maybe? Anything!
PS. Felice. I wondered the same!
Such an ugly fleece, but funny 🙂
Yeah, he’s probably wearing undies, ladies. Baggy sweatpants without anything underneath is super bad if you’re jogging, talk about chafing! It hurts just thinking about it…the front is just the pants seam.
lol. his little buddy isn’t half way down his leg – thats something in his pocket.
I bet he’s called it Big Ben at one point.
Doesn’t quite look like a pocket to me, but I guess we can see what we want to see. I just wish we weren’t seeing him so tired and haggard all the time. I’d hate to get used to that look.
Surprised at how drunk and unsteady on his feet he looked on the Oscars red carpet (saw the GIF on Sogo). Pretty bad form for a nominee. I have less respect for this guy every day.
It wasn’t on the red carpet it was right at the end of the evening when they were all getting out of their seats and leaving the venue. He is not unsteady on his feet at all and certainly not drunk. Watch the video, rather than a gif, Benedict appears at 49.55.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAs3_Hi1mEk&t=3002
the only thing he was drunk on was the super awkwardness of that moment.
The takeaway of the kiss is how she went to great lengths to pull away from him, and he didn’t care she’s repulsed by him, he wants a kiss out of spite! LOL
The real story is in the second after where she looks to her right like she just kissed a frog.
Wow, I had only seen gifs of that kiss but the video makes it seem even MORE awkward. She quickly moves away when he goes in for the kiss and he almost falls over, trying to reach her mouth. And both of them look like they want to throw up after that dry peck.
He was tipsy at least. He had vodka, remember?
i think only a nun would get tipsy after just one shot of vodka..
Bread got it. She’s trying to lean back as far as she can once she realizes he’s trying to kiss her, tries to get away with the least amount of lip contact as possible, and then turns away as fast as she can. That’s true love. How the heck did they make a baby? Double bags? Lots of alcohol/drugs?
Weird couple. They’re definitely not in love. But to be honest, they will be neither the first nor the last pairing that conceived a child without having feelings for each other. I don’t feel sorry for him though, he was always gushing in his interviews about becoming a father. Now he has what he wanted. Maybe if he would have concentrated himself more on finding the right person first before impregnating some socialite wannabe, he wouldn’t look like he aged ten years in the last six months.
Just thought this would be a good read for anyone who’s interested:
for S H (female)
born on 16 March 1978
Planetary positions
planet sign
Sun Pisces
Moon Gemini
Mercury Aries
Venus Aries
Mars Cancer
Jupiter Gemini
Saturn Leo
Uranus Scorpio
Neptune Sagittarius
Pluto Libra
True Node Libra
House positions (Placidus) and Degrees
Ascendant Leo 8°09’20
2nd House Leo 25°12’07
3rd House Virgo 17°13’08
Imum Coeli Libra 17°28’56
5th House Scorpio 27°14’07
6th House Capricorn 7°15’24
Descendant Aquarius 8°09’20
8th House Aquarius 25°12’07
9th House Pisces 17°13’08
Medium Coeli Aries 17°28’56
11th House Taurus 27°14’07
12th House Cancer 7°15’24
Did they really manage to have a private pap-free tweet-free birthday party? Is this her birthday wish to us?
@Felice Something tells me that the bday wishes are gonna roll out at a later date.
@VL719 What does your psychic eye tell you about what’s goin’ on?
Maybe she is already bringing a little otter into this world… Faking nature is much harder than faking fans…