Alright, I just finished reading Sophie Hunter’s Vogue profile and let me just say… chica is exhausting. It’s just a simple article about her wedding dress and wedding, and I came out of it feeling like Sophie is an exhausting person. Some Tumblr sites have the scans of her Vogue interview, but here are some highlights:
She actually IS working, people: “Sophie is currently developing a production of Britten’s Turn of the Screw with the Aldeburgh Festival and his Phaedra for the annual Beckett festival in Enniskillen, Northen Ireland…”
Sophie, on being told that she’s “grounded”: “When two people meet and it’s the right combination, it does ground you suddenly.”
What? Vogue says that Benedict and Sophie have known each other for “seventeen years.”
Planning the gown: Her wedding gown is Valentino Couture and normally it takes six months for the house to make a wedding gown, but “Sophie’s ensemble was raced through in three months.” She went to Rome for her first meeting with the designers.
Sophie on the process of planning her wedding: “From a directorial point of view, I see opera in it, I see art, I see theater. There’s a narrative of the individual and the occasion and the setting that is utterly unique.”
Sophie on her gown (which is lacy and silver-grey): “It seemed to encapsulate everything I’d been speaking about. It feels very much of nature, and it’s so detailed and extraordinary that I’m still trying to get my head around how beautiful it is.”
The veil: Sophie was going to wear a “200-year-old family wedding veil” but changed her mind because the old veil is “very ornate.”
The ring: Sophie’s something blue was “the fragile sapphire Tiffany engagement ring that Benedict, to her delight, picked out himself.” Sophie on the ring: “It has that delicacy, it’s certainly not ‘in your face.’” Sophie’s brother made their wedding bands.
[From Vogue, print edition]
The rest of the article is interesting, if you’re obsessed and/or a hater. She had five bridesmaids and three pages! What I came away with is… Sophie has some pretty good connections, mostly family connections, I would assume. She was able to pull together a really fancy, really expensive, really artsy-fartsy shotgun wedding very quickly. And it does sound like she was planning everything and Benedict didn’t get much of a say. It also sounds like her family made the wedding happen. As for her sapphire ring… damn, Benedict WHY DID YOU HAVE TO BRING MY BIRTHSTONE INTO IT?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Yeah, she sounds like a lot of hard work…
No Jay!!
*clears throat*
I see…. theatre, I candles, I see delicate sapphire twinkling, I see opera, I see ornate objects scattered around, I see emotion… but in a very delicate and styling fashion, subtle, regal almost… a little tear streaming down, perhaps a century’s old cloth handed down for 7 generations to wipe away that tear, I see the Hunter name and the Cumberbatch legacy conjoining in a magnificent manner…
I see AAARRTT!!!
Flower girl, 3, 2, kick turn! Turn, turn, kick turn!
Cue the pages in 3,2, step, step, kick, turn, and big smile!
I said Smile! Wedding is theatuh!
Lol! This is great!
“I see opera in it, I see art, I see theater. There’s a narrative of the individual and the occasion and the setting that is utterly unique.” WHO TALKS LIKE THAT?!
In English now: Every wedding is different. Mine was a posh extravaganza with pages and fireworks. Opera, theatre, art, whatever.
Someone who deserves a nice good slap, that’s who says such things. And someone who is dumb and trying to sound smart
I don’t know… I am not a fan of the man, just come to read the witty comments on these threads but it kind of looks odd to me that anyone would answer like that when asked about their wedding. I mean, it’s supposed to be a very personal and special day of dedication and a promise. I can’t imagine answering “yes, I see the marketing appeal, the positioning and the bait for the guests and crowds…” It’s just so impersonal.
You do understand that she’s talking about the dress-making process, right?
Well, still. It sounds terribly pretentious and impersonal to me. There is no joy in it, there is no emotion, I can’t wrap my head around such answers when it comes to something so personal.
She sounds well spoken and quite interesting. I don’t get the hatred / intense dislike.
I think a lot of the hatred is from Cumberlovers who are shattered that he’s not single anymore (not necessarily from this site, but yeah…check out Tumblr if you want to fall down a scary rabbit hole). I don’t find her very interesting but I don’t hate her either. She seems very vanilla, IMHO. Mind you, so does he.
I don’t understand the intense dislike of Sophie either. She always seems nicely dressed, nothing over the top, but suitable, she seems nice. IMO
I’m not a follower of Cumber, so I am not sure why his fans went into meltdown when he got engaged, married. Still she seems fine.
They seem a bit like old British-Hollywood era. I like their vibe.
I’ll come out and say it– I don’t get it either. It reminds me of the Yoko Ono hatred of yesteryear frankly.
He’s married! To a woman who is threatening because, well, there might actually be something to her!
I think fans prefer the wives and girlfriends to stand to the side and not get in the way of their fantasies. Be bland. Don’t say “Beckett” because eeeeeeeeeiiiii we haven’t read him!
I had no opinion of her until this interview. I read her CV and thought they seemed well suited, both are wealthy well educated actors. But her interview makes her sound very pretentious and heavy handed. Whereas he tells fart jokes and laughs about the more risqué Sherlock fan art; I bet she hates that. Now that I’ve seen a glimmer of her personality it gives me the sads, I wanted to like her.
I get that people can have an opinion on her or them as a couple and speculate or gossip over their relationship. But what I don’t get is the full blown hate and obsession with Sophie. People have actually spent time researching her, her career or lack of ( I don’t have an opinion or care). To me that just seems weird and crazy.
Aussie Girl, I agree. She does sound very pretentious in this interview, but the full blown hatred is sad. It really comes off as jealousy because their imaginary boyfriend married her, and then seemed to change his (which was probably very carefully calculated) public image. He pandered to these women until he didn’t need them anymore. They should hate him, not her.
miss jupitero,
why are you so keen to paint her as some kind of super achiever? because she really just…isnt.
you keep talking about the one show she was involved with years ago that got some good reviews. most other stuff shes done has been either exaggerated or plain lied about. shes tried to sing (which shes not brilliant at) and act (which shes flat out AWFUL at) and also tried to be a performance artist by laying on the floor in a fat suit and molesting an octopus.
shes utterly ridiculous.
She does sound pretentious, but then again, she’s being interviewed by Vogue. I wouldn’t use my everyday vernacular in that situation, either.
Jojar, you left out her most stunning role – playing a mime being dry humped in a meadow. It can be found on youtube – In the Meadow. Enjoy, all.
I never said she was a “super achiever,” but I do have this thing for accuracy and an aversion to petty jealousy and people who have nothing better to do than sh*t all over other people’s accomplishments. She has in fact accomplished some wonderful things, she is in fact a director, and I see no evidence to the contrary. I think the real question is yhy do you need to hang out on CB and cut her apart and sneer at her work?
I have a thing for accuracy too, as well as an intense aversion to BS, lies, puffery and making things out to be bigger than they are.
Whether her accomplishments are “wonderful” or not is, like art, in the eye of the beholder.
But she has NOT accomplished many of the things she is reported to have done. Her CV does not hold up under scrutiny and has been embellished. Moreover, it does not appear she has worked since being seen with her future husband last summer.
So I would counter with: what’s wrong with being truthful and honest about who you are, what you’ve done and what you haven’t?
However, Yoko was very famous genuine artist in 60’s NY and London art scene. I have NOVA magazine 1967. Famous philosopher, author, Socialite and Young Richard Branson was on with her. She managed John’s assets, and arranged for him not to go bankrupt by waste during a separation from her.
SH is posh and middle-aged party girl without talent. And she is crazy about his money……
Yoko’s success was enabled by her family’s enormous wealth, but unlike Shotgun Hunter, yes she did work her arse off. She is, however, just as pretentious.
@Claire!
You must check Fluxus. She was a star in the group.
She was a amazing modern artist in 60’s.
What? Did you not just read that?
I am no Cumberbitch, but… whoa.
That was too sweet, and poetic for me. I had the same exhausted eyeroll feeling I get for Anne Hathaway when she tries to describe things…
I don’t GAF about Cumberbatch but I find Comet Sophie painfully boring.
I don’t understand the hate, but I don’t get the interest either.
Is anyone actually interested in her, though? Well, except Vogue of course!
Why do we call her ‘Comet Sophie’?
People are reacting to the pretentious drivel she is selling as ‘art’.
And apparently her CV is full of lies and exaggerations both the work history and the future projects.
If that’s true then yes she is pretty despicable and embarrassing.
I tend to read more the comments of people that are close to the area of where the person is from. In her case, what I have gathered, yes she has a resume, but is mostly due to her family’s either wealth or connections, if she did not have either she probably would not have a resume … that is my take on it…. but let’s be honest, now a days, you need the connections. How many jobs do we get out of the internet vs. jobs from connections inside the industry?
I wish they are happy, but in all honesty either opposites attract or I don’t know what, but from pictures they don’t look like they jell well (I don’t know how else to put it)
After his attitude and comments during the Oscar campaign, I don’t think he is much of a prize. I had no opinion of her till I saw her throwing a hissy fit in the red carpet. So if i don’t like her, it is for her sake. Nothing to do with him.
Yes.
Who said water seeks its own level on the last thread?
Well spotted whomever you were.
Two of a kind methinks.
And things have a way of playing out as they are meant to. Even actors can’t act forever. True colors are eventually shown.
LOL if they were two of kind, they wouldn’t be having these public issues.
It’s the much simpler he got her knocked up and married her for what could be multiple reasons, from saving face to the common yet often irrational fear he won’t have access to the kid. LBR unmarried pregnant woman’s rights triumph the father’s.
LOL so much pretension! I’m not mad at her tho.
Famous for marrying someone famous. Done.
It’s that easy, baby!!!
She’s in the same page as Kate Middleton and many many many more. Men and women
I laughed out loud several times while reading this article, including her quotes.
Never having read Vogue before, I have to ask if this is their usual style of writing or if they beefed it up to suit the – what was it? – patrician, whippet-like beauty of Mrs. Cumberbatch.
That’s pretty standard for Vogue.
Ugh, it is so cringeworthy, though. I would be so embarrassed to be sucked up to like that.
Well, tbh most media outlets are pretty obsequious when it comes to writing about celebrity subject – Vogue just uses really high flown language. And I think that description you cited is pretty well-done. A little over the top, but evocative and apt. Sophie Hunter does have patrician good looks…and she does sort of resemble an elegant show dog lol.
um..she isnt a celebrity tho? nobody knows or cares about her and now she gets knocked up to that goose, cumby after couple of months, she sells off the details and has a pretentious pic taken on a table in her wedding dress so she can get herself in vogue.
Ummm…except she is a celebrity NOW – precisely because, as you put it, she got “knocked up.” People know and obviously care a whole lot about her NOW that she’s with someone famous. It’s not the first time we’ve seen someone find fame through mating and/or marriage.
Why do English people apparently all look like animals? Horses, whippets….
Thank you for that, Personally I’ve always thought I looked a bit like a gerbil. Lols
I know people probably mean it as an insult, but I think horses are beautiful and amazing, whippets are dog so they are cool by default, and gerbils… don’t get me started on gerbils… SOOOOOOO cute!! 😉
I don’t know, not it kinda sounds like compliments so I’ll just conclude that **sighs** really really likes English people.
Lol. I actually very much like English people. I lived there for a time and have a lot of English friends.
It just makes me laugh that people always seem to compare them to animals. You never hear people say Spaniards look like peacocks or Australians looks like kangaroos.
I’m Australian and I look like a wombat…. well in the ass area.
He always sound absolutely exhausting. A perfect match.
Indeed, long winded answers to basic questions, I bet their conversations last for hours 😂
And there’s nothing wrong with that.
Meh, Hiddleston does the same thing (long winded answers) but in his case most people find it endearing.
(This isn’t meant to derail the thread, he was just an example of someone who’s long-winded but it’s not considered a bad thing.)
Wanna bet they don’t talk much?
OhDear, but Hiddlestone is still single, his comments will become less endearing soon enough.
They are a lovely couple. I really like Sophie and Cumber together, they seem well suited for each other.
Duke & Duchess Dolittle can take a breather now that we have another jobless posh Brit.
“from a directorial point of view I can see the opera in it ….” blah de blah de blah. Not up herself then…
Hasn’t it been proven that she hasn’t directed any operas? There was something that sounded like a “happening” that involved sand and cocktails that included Sophie on the creative team and something that involved dragging theatre sets around Africa to set up workshops in various locations. I wouldn’t advise the latter, given the current state of affairs, BTW. Maybe they could go around the Midwest instead? It’s safer – – – and if they wait until next year, they could be part of a cross cultural exchange in which they exchange culture, for a world class education in the American political system! And corn!
Ah but if she went to the American mid-west as an English person wouldn’t she be mistaken for a horse? (see **sighs** above) Wouldn’t there be a rodeo in there with her the one being ridden (is that actually a word or have I just made it up?) and wouldn’t that actually be worth seeing? LOL. I don’t hate her at all by the way, or Benny, I just stopped posting on these threads a while ago because it all got a bit too mad for me.
Yes. It has, anon121.
I don’t understand why she commands such an interest and receives so much attention. She is not what you’d call drop dead gorgeous and I haven’t heard of anything particularly noteworthy or important that she’s done.
Oh, but –
“From a directorial point of view, I see opera in it, I see art, I see theater. There’s a narrative of the individual and the occasion and the setting that is utterly unique.”
I don’t know about you, but that sounds VERY important to me.
wtf does it even mean??
You know, it’s interesting: It’s far too general a comment to be an actually creative point of view. (“I see opera in it, I see art.”). It’s just reads as empty, flamboyant words. It really plays into the hands of people who want to see her as pretentious.
I’m not a BC fan and I haven’t had a strong opinion of her until now, but this interview makes her sound. . . um, a bit ridiculous.
Your fair in your assessment of her (IMO). From my perspective, people aren’t at all interested in Sophie herself, but are interested in her as an extension of BC and in what his choice of her as a partner reveals about him, his values and his taste.
jane – Well put. Also, (it seems to me), the public revelation of his “partner”, (partner by choice or due to circumstance, who knows), also seemed to coincide with some rather unpleasant out of character behavior from BC. Many are trying to suss out if there is something about SH that caused, or somehow contributed to, his new, negative behavior.
I don’t like Cumberbatch either, so they both sound so very pretentious to me.
Yeah, it seems they’re well matched tbh. They’re both artsy, educated upper crust brits – and tbh only upper crust types can afford to pursue careers in art.
And that is just it, isn’t It? I feel plenty of rage toward the economic system which has put so many things out of reach to those who are not in the peerage. What I don’t get is the road rage around this particular coupling. They are well suited to one another.she is hardly the first person to gush about her wedding.
Yes, I think class wars are at play here, but I doubt fans had an issue with Cumberbatch’s privileged pedigree (or any other of his undesirable traits, for that matter) UNTIL he got with his wife. Funny, that! LOL no but really, the road rage is standard fandom bullshit imo. Cumberbatch rose to fame as a single man, and fans prefer that their favorite bachelors stay bachelors. He didn’t, and now his (disgruntled) fans are showing disappointment/outrage with the same level of obsessive zeal that they previously showed their affection. From Cumberbitches to Cumberbitters!
I think I said somewhere else that it reminds me a lot of the Yoko Ono rage back in the olden days when the Beatles broke up. People torn her to shreds for daring to marry a Beatle, and she was accused of a lot of the same crap Sophie is getting, complete with the usual derision for the avant garde. (What people didn’t know back then was that John Lennon was the one who was marrying up, and that he desperately wanted to be accepted in Yoko’s conceptualist/Fluxus circles. But that is another story.)
Fandom prefers that the wives and girlfriends not exist at all– but if they must exist, they must blend into the background, not be threatening in any way (not too pretty, not too successful, not too “artsy” god forbid), and stay out of the way of their sexual fantasies. They must not EVER represent something important to their idol (e.g., the “artsiness” or intellectualism which he doesn’t find in Hollywood and probably find refreshing), or suggest a different value system that has nothing to do with what they want him to be doing.
In other words, the usual fandom crap.
Actually, I was expecting him to marry someone funky and fun (and sexy). The opposite of what you say. Someone dazzling, surprising. Instead, he’s basically married himself in a skirt.
If she’s the equivalent of Yoko Ono, then I’m the Duchess of Malfi.
Welp that’s where you went wrong, hermi. You can’t assume or have any expectations of a man you don’t know.
We all have expectations about people we don’t know. It’s what human beings do. We read about people, listen to them talk, make up stories. It doesn’t mean they are going to come to fruition. Still, we are allowed to be disappointed if someone we thought clever and fun turns out to be gullible and/or dull. Or worse.
There’s nothing to indicate he is anything like her in personality. Either you think opposites attract, you think they’re up their arses, you think they’re both fun and nice people, or you think compatibility is moot because they’re only together because she found a way to get a meal ticket for life. All contingent on the kid being his of course, which I really need to emphasise.
It just occurred to me that the Cumberbaby is probably due around the same time as the royal baby. Is there enough tea to handle that hysteria?
There seems to be a different theory about this couple for every person you ask, so here’s my two cents:
I don’t know about the epic love story, he was quite the man about town for a while. I think Sophie got pregnant and in doing so (whether by accident or design) locked down the ‘Batch. She isn’t the first, nor will she be the last woman to do this. But she is very artsy and upper crust, so they may stand the test of time even though most marriages that begin baby first do not. Of course they’re going to spin it like they’re soul mates; in the age of digital media that lasts forever neither can be expected to say “we’re both over 30 and with the baby on the way decided to give it a go”. Good luck to them. I’d be surprised if it makes the five year mark, but I’m shocked that Kimye is still married, too.
Working??? Chika is a straight up society wife.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
She’s directing two shows. How is that not “working”?
I have one show coming up and I am in full-on panic mode.
Relax, she is not directing anything.
Her only ”masterpiece” that was more than an obscure pdf and has actually taken place was this wedding.
Actually I remember when one of her shows came to Boston.
What makes you so certain she is not directing anything new? Are you an insider at Aldburgh? Did you read it on Tumblr? What an obnoxious this g to say!
I have another show coming up btw at a Boston gallery, and it is a long way from being announced officially.
Yes. Someone on tumblr had the wherewithal to research her directing claims as well as her cv, and found that these companies are and have been denying her involvement. I can’t link on my phone, but you can find this information at wikianonbc on tumblr or one of the other accounts that she thinks too.
@Nonnie, I saw one of her shows, 69 S, yes, the thing with the puppets, and found it riveting and very well done.
Here is what I found from SoGo:
They got back to me:
There is no plan for any projects with Mrs Hunter for this year’s Aldeburgh Festival. However, we might work with Mrs Hunter later this year but there is nothing finally confirmed.
“Not confirmed” in my humble opinion is a far cry from “made up and debunked.” They are considering a project with her.
(Btw, the work involved with proposing and planning such projects can be considerable. It *is* work, and as a working artist/poet who is always proposing and planning an installation, or working on a manuscript, or preparing for a reading, it really pisses me off when people treat what I do as if I were doing nothing at all. If I sound a bit shirty, THIS is where it is coming from.)
As for the rest of her CV, I can confirm that The Shackleton Project was real, on a very real world tour, with very real great reviews, and included some pretty impressive talent (Phantom Limb and Kronos Quartet)– and that Hunter was the director. Which means this was her vision. Sorry, but there is no way you are going to tell me that this is not a major achievement, or that it is just something that came out of the blue while she was sunbathing in Corfu, or that she did not have to show a lot of cred and prove herself to get that opportunity. Let’s have a little reality with our reality, folks.
So the rest? What else has actually been debunked? Let’s make a bulleted list with links. I’d love to settle this.
What LF said– alas, I was not able to see it, but I really wanted to. It was at the Emerson– and that is no small achievement.
on the yesterday’s article I referred the doubters to a Boston Globe article about the Phantom Limb production but the posters dismissed it because it wasn’t with “real people” but with mannequins and in their opinion that didn’t count.
Some people are just not willing to accept any of her accomplishments and that is that.
Fair enough, Miss Jupitero. I really did just happen to see this info when bored and perusing. I’ve no interest in doing my own research or spending a lot of time here. I shouldn’t have shot off my mouth!
@MissJupitero – this is a link to an article in the New York Times – http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/30/theater/69s-shackleton-tale-comes-to-bam-next-wave-festival.html?_r=0. It sounds like the “vision” was/is that of Jessica Grindstaff and Erik Sanko, not Sophie Hunter. Tbf, I’m sure she made a contribution, but the vision, and therefore the credit, belongs to Ms. Grindstaff and Mr. Sanko.
@wahine992 – So, according to your logic, if a director stages a production of Shakespeare – say, Macbeth – and critics laud that particular production, then the kudos rightfully belong to Shakespeare – and NOT the director? That’s ridiculous! It’s also tangential – cuz the OP is merely pointing out evidence that shows that this woman directed stage show and has the right to call her self a director.
She was the friggin’ DIRECTOR. Of course other people’s visions are a part of the whole package since it was a collaboration with Phantom Limb– theatre is always collaborative– but there is nothing fake or “put on” for her to take credit as the director– it was in fact her role. And it is a central role in making any of this happen.
@lobbit – I never said she doesn’t deserve credit for directing it, just that the original concept, or “vision”, was that of Grindstaff/Sanko. MissJupitero wrote “Which means this was her vision.” I don’t agree with that statement. Obviously, as the director (apparently one of a long string of them), she made a contribution to the production. I’m not disputing that. From the sound of this article, however, this production is Grindstaff and Sanko’s “baby”.
@Miss Jupitero – exactly where did I write that there was anything “fake or put on” for her to take credit. She directed it, so of course she deserves credit. Jeez, relax! I don’t like her, but I’m not trying to discredit her genuinely legitimate work.
@wahine992 and every one of Shakespeare’s works was his baby, his brainchild. Still, a director brings his/her own unique vision to every production. That’s part of what it means to be a director.
@lobbit – Very true in regards to Shakespeare. However, you can be damn sure that if a play was staged during his lifetime and he took part in the staging, it would have been done per HIS vision. From reading this article, and others, about this particular production, things were pretty much in place by the time Sophie Hunter came along, imo. At the time of the writing of this article, she was the latest in a long line of directors. Again, I’m NOT trying to downplay her contribution. I’m trying to keep her contribution in proper perspective.
Why the need to defend her so passionately? I don’t understand this.
“”Why the need to defend her so passionately? I don’t understand this.”””
Hmm why the need to insult and demean her so passionately? I don’t understand this.
Perhaps the people defending her don’t like the misogyny, the lies, the conspiracy theories and the vileness being directed her way and feel the need to defend a woman who has done nothing but marry a man and is carrying his child. She has committed no crimes, has hurt no one and has just accompanied her husband on the RC. She hasn’t been interviewed by the press, apart from Vogue, and I haven’t even heard her speak.
Maggie – I really think accusing SH’s critics of misogyny may be going a bit too far. Criticizing a woman in her mid to late thirties over her thin (& somewhat dodgy) CV is hardly evidence of a negative attitude toward womankind in general.
And no, she’s committed no crimes, but she, and the relationship, were marketed to the public as part of TIG’s Oscar campaign. She was foisted upon everyone as intelligent, professionally accomplished, & “cool”, yet when she finally spoke publicly, she came off as pretentious as hell, in my opinion. That not me being misogynistic, that simply my opinion about ONE woman
@EN The response regarding the The Phantom Limb Project was a direct quote from the NY Times review of said project on November 3, 2011. If you have issues with the “dismissal” of the project, feel free to address your complaints to them.
Furthermore, that show was NOT on Broadway, but at the BAM Harvey theater in Brooklyn. It was not a world tour. It played at several universities and small theaters in a few metro areas and was funded by kickstarter.
I’m not saying there is anything wrong with any of that. But I AM saying that’s what it ACTUALLY was.
Regarding her other “Broadway” work:
1) The Weinstein company was one of the producers of Enron on Broadway. Playbill vault shows Sophie as associate director of the Broadway production, which failed and closed 12 days after opening.
2) Playbill vault shows only one other credit for Sophie on Broadway: as one of the witches in Macbeth from Apr. 8, 2008 – May 24, 2008.
And yes, I have colleagues who legit work on Broadway and tour nationally with MAJOR (i.e. Tony-winning, household name) shows. Until she hooked up with Ben, she was hacking out her existence in the business like 95% of the rest of them. It was the pregnancy and resulting marriage that pulled her out of obscurity and into the limelight. She clearly had another source of income to get her by because she worked neither frequently nor scored any high-profile gigs to pay the bills with her work in the business.
There is no shame in “singing for your supper” and not making the big bucks in an artistic industry. I work in a different part of the entertainment business and I have a second, non-related job to keep the bills paid and enable me to work part time in the business. Sometimes you have to go 7 days a week for months. So be it.
It’s the lack of honesty, frankness and the heavy spin that just annoys the hell out of me. Be real and be who you are.
But I don’t think that is what this couple is about, frankly.
” There’s a narrative of the individual and the occasion and the setting that is utterly unique.”
Wow.
She reminds me of a freshman that strings together every big word they know to sound more intelligent than they are. But then again, I like Hemingway.
“Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I don’t know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use”
I don’t like Hemingway, but he has a point. George Orwell made the same point.
I love that quote. Thanks for posting.
I like Faulkner because I write poetry (as a hobby mind you). Yes, some people do get gratification from stringing pretty words together, words are music. Nothing wrong with it.
Not everybody likes the same music either.
Isn’t the whole point of a wedding that TWO individualS become one couple? It isn’t all about one person but it’s about the union? Or doesn’t the guy matter to her?
Have you seen that clip of their kiss at the Oscars? She looked at him like an alien trying to suck her brains out when he leaned in for a kiss. I don’t think there’s much of a “union” there.
According to this narrative they’re emphasizing for her, she’s the director. He’s an actor. Taking those roles to their logical conclusion, it’s her job to just direct him to show up and hit his mark.
No no…its about the AAAAARRRRTTTTand the SHOOOWWW!!
(anyone who talks about a wedding like the party or the appearance is so important is missing the big picture if you ask me)
She’s been driving the car the entire time tbqh.
They way both BC and SH talk about their relationship, they seem to be looking out for their own interests. That doesn’t bode well for lifelong love. Just wait until the kid arrives and doesn’t give a flying fat f*ck about their personal agendas. I never realized just how selfish I was until I had kids.
Is it just me or did she talk about the wedding like it was a show she was directing? She sounds pretentious as hell. I’ve come to think that they’re well suited for each other, but they way they have talked and acted the past 6 months, I don’t have high hopes this shotgun marriage will last. I hope they prove me wrong tho’. Nothin’s worse than a bad marriage.
You can feel the love transpiring from both their “narratives”: he calling her “a tool, an asset”, she talking about her wedding as a theatre play.
Desperate romantics indeed.
It’s actually hilariously clear they’re not a good match…that’s what caused all this crazy crap to begin with
She’s one of those that talks circles around things because she doesn’t have anything of actual substance to say. She’s Kanye with an upper crust education.
THIS.
+1,000
” There’s a narrative of the individual and the occasion and the setting that is utterly unique.”
Wow.
Double wow. What pretentious, meaningless twaddle. But, I’m grateful – she’s better than twelve step therapy for my former cumberaddiction. Thanks, Soph!
Does solve the mystery why BC spouted such weird, flowery prose about his missus in the Great Pre Oscars and Love showdown of ’14. Mrs. Cumberbatch got to him. And he was already pretty longwinded himself, just in an understandable way. They’ll probably turn into one and the same British, artsy persona soon. 😉
He was verbose, but fun. Now she’s taken the fun out of him and we are left with Joycian prose and moodiness.
Sophies something blue was her ring (and pregnancy test) heyoo! I am here all week
ROTFLMAO!!! 👍
LOLOLOL
keep it coming
And BAM!!
Seventeen years? Mhm. So not love at first sight I guess.
Love at first potential Oscar nomination, maybe…
Lol’ing
Win!
BOOM!
Love at potential earnings and red carpets.
Or love at first sight of his American Express platinum credit card…
I would LOVE to know how they met in 1998 when he lived in Manchester, wasn’t even an actor yet and she was in Oxford. I’d love to hear that bit of bs explained. Not to mention the wedding dress she was papped in at the church is not the one in the photo in this bs article. And her quotes make her sound like she’s using the dress to big up her directing credentials. A dress reminds you of opera? wow that’s deep LOL
Well, they do have many friends in common. Ben’s friends with the birkins (his “dear, dear friend David”) since his teens and Fornieles, who SH is also close to (there are old pics of her and Eloise at parties and galleries).
The dress could’ve been modified before the wedding. She actually looks very lovely in the article, but she sounds obnoxious. I’m not too surprised, though.
Claire, when I was in college, the big thing to do was to visit friends from high school who went on to attend other colleges. So actually, I could see Sophie spending a weekend at Manchester with old friends and being introduced to BC at some point. For example, if she visited to see a friend in a play, then it’s entirely likely she would be introduced to BC, especially if he was in the cast.
Ugh. I’m not one of the conspiracy theorists, but she needs to give everyone a bit of a break before the little Cumberbutt makes its way into the world and there’s another round of media attention. Here, she comes off as the most pretentious of Bridezillas, not a good look on anyone.
+1,000,000
I’m a big Cumber-lover and I don’t hate or dislike her. I think she seems really interesting, urbane, and poised. I’m happy for them. Just…bring on the baby so we can see pics of Benny and his mini-me already.
Oh man, that is too funny! Vogue, you hit the nail on the head with your early-twentieth-century-society-pages-write-up-of-an-upper-class-wedding vibe.
Didn’t someone debunk the Aldeburgh festival? As in, the organizers said she’s not doing anything for the festival? You would think they would know, as it’s their festival….
Not to mention the fact that Aldeburgh really is right around or right after she’d be giving birth and Enniskillen she’d have a newborn and Benedict would be doing Hamlet. So yeah….utter BS
I don’t know much about that festival, but if it says the project is in development, it might be true because operas are often planned 3-4 years in advance, as there are a lot of things to put together. So she might be working for a future season production.
Wouldn’t they know about it though?
Yes, but some companies don’t like to give details about future seasons’ productions (2 or 3 years forward), even more when the current season is still going on (I’m assuming their schedule is the same as other opera houses) or when they just announced the next season’s schedule.
There is still nothing on the Aldeburgh web site about Sophie Hunter or Turn of the Screw.
I’m running the risk of being accused of PR-ing or nannying, but still. It says “with the Aldeburgh Festival”, not “at the Aldeburgh Festival”.
The Aldeburgh Festival organises events all throught the year and they have said they were planning to work with her later in the year (although it wasn’t a lock yet). So maybe this is what she was referring to?
Very true, Leo.
A hobby dilettante with artsy avant garde pretentions and posh pedigree. I’d say, run, clever boy, run, but it’s obviously too late.
Honestly the exaggerated, frou frou career of little consequence doesn’t mean much to me. Sofa’s rotten attitude does. She’s a nasty piece of work and treats her husband terribly.
Not so clever after all 🙂
I still can’t get over how much they look alike. But they seem well suited for each other.
Someone pointed out that they look like siblings yesterday and now I can’t unsee it!!!
That is exactly what I came here to say! Every time I see pictures of them, I’m floored by how alike they look.
I bet her dress is similar to the one they presented with a deer on it.
17 years? How? I thought the first meeting was on the set of the boroque fairytale thing in 09. People wouldn’t be so mad about the whole thing if everything didn’t seem so fabricated.
Actually, BF was filmed in 2007, but had a long post-production and was just released in 2009. And no one was ever quoted saying they met then, it was just an assumption made by the press.
I’m honestly wondering, but why couldn’t they’ve met 17 years ago? Why is it so impossible? Artsy types, public schools, same circles in London, mutual friends like David Birkin whom BC must have met at least before 2001 when his brother Anno died and BC stated that he knew him.
It’s totally possible, but that goes against what has already been said. Why is there such a discrepancy? That’s not a difficult question. Trying not be a Looney but come on. They should be able to agree when they met.
And I’m trying not to be a nag, but who said they met filming BF? I’ve never heard BC say anything about that.
It has been reported that they met sometime between 2004-2009. Sophie never said that they met 17 years ago/ that they have known each other for 17 years. Vogue could have added that part later on.
“When two people meet and it’s the right combination, it does ground you suddenly,” says Sophie, she appeared on-screen with her future husband in the 2009 movie Burlesque Fairytales but has known him for seventeen years.”
IF they have known each other for 17 years. Why aren’t there any pictures of them spending time together (before 2014)? He has been photographed hanging out with lots of friends. Why hasn’t he talked about their friendship? He talks about his friendships/friends all the time. (Alice Eve/Eddie Redmayne/Adam Ackland/Dan Stevens/Keira Knightly/James Rhodes/Tertius Bune/Colin Firth/Chiwetel Ejiofor/David Oyelowo/Michael Fassbender/Tom Hiddleston/Rebecca Hall/Rosamund Pike/Jonny Lee Miller/Etc, Etc)
IF they have known each other for 17 years. It’s pretty obvious that she wasn’t interested in him/didn’t care about him until he was famous.
Well, he never, ever spoke about Robert Rinder (the TV judge) and until the summer of 2013 no one knew they even knew each other and have been close friends since university. And if it wasn’t for Rinder’s wedding, we still wouldn’t know anything because BC never speaks about him. How do you explain that?
SH couldn’t fall into the same category as Rinder, right?
And since when is the absence of proof, proof of absence?
Reported by whom? Tabloids who also reported he was dating SH since 2009. and that Martin Freeman was his best man which means they talk bollocks? Skeptics on Tumblr?
@Leo
LMAO! You got me. He doesn’t speak about Robert Rinder. ONE FRIEND. But after Benedict officiated Robert Rinder’s Wedding in 2013. At least it became known that they have been friends/known each other since University.
Like I said, Sophie did not say that they have known each other for 17 years. Vogue could have added that part later on. So NONE of us know for sure when they actually met. Benedict has had no problems/issues with stating how long he has known his friends/when/where they met. He met Olivia at University. He has never said where/when he and Sophie actually met.
Google it. Different sources reported that they met sometime between 2004-2009. Time and CNN reported that they met in 2009.
17 years.
Keira and Matthew Goode were friends of Olivia and BC before.
They met SH at 2014 for the first time.
Most of old friends of BC met SH for the first time at the wedding ceremony.
Is this a forced marriage with mythomania woman?
They are attempting to create a backstory where none exists and have been doing so since the beginning of this debacle. Notice the baby was never mentioned in the article. Their pr is using every possible resource to make them appear to be wonderfully in love and the big people will believe it.
All I thought reading this:
“Its NOT finished………………………………………..IT’S FINISHED”
My eternal love to anyone who gets this 😉
Spaced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enNPX_dljPk
Eve, I had a feeling you’d get it! Loving you as always!!
Weeping omg.
:*
You know…some day I’ll come here to collect your soul, I mean, LOVE. I meant “love”.
*tents fingers*
@Eve
http://media0.giphy.com/media/8fen5LSZcHQ5O/giphy.gif
I actually really like her and think she’s quite pretty. Vogue makes everyone sound pretentious because it’s vogue. She’s clearly a bit dramatic, and the quotes that she gave were a little over the top. She sort of reminds me of the two older women from the movie Coraline.
no, that is actually how she speaks. in the couple of interviews she did in the past, she sounded as pretentious as hell.
“but “Sophie’s ensemble was raced through in three months.””
Much like the entire relationship
BADUM TSSHHHHHHHH
And they don’t race things through for anyone; particularly an unknown, knocked up bride of a B list, internet famous TV star. My guess, Anna (or Harvey) pulled strings.
The way the picture is posed, it’s clear that the Valentino designers raced it through for a shot at a free page in Vogue US (normally priced at around 200K).
Kudos on posing the bride in mid-twirl to hide the shotgun aspect of the proceedings.
Honestly? She said next to nothing. She uses big words and talks about things as if she were in a Renaissance play.
The only pretentious thing I think she said is how humbling it was for her to discover the number of people involved in the making of the dress, “because of the history of the dress”. As if she were Lady Di marrying the PoW or Kate Middleton marrying William!
And if that engagement ring isn’t all in your face then I am Jon Snow.
But i really like the dress and credit well deserved for Valentino. However, I can’t believe Lanvin’s Oscar dress was CUSTOM and still looked so badly made.
yeah, she doesn’t really say much of anything. most of this is fluff about the designers? verry vogue lol
This isn’t her wedding dress. The one in photos seen had cap sleeves and was white. So what the heck is this monstrosity? Yet more bs
Oddly, the engagement ring that Hunter displayed all this time didn’t show a blue sapphire. Oddly, over the last 17 years, no sparks flew between these two until, oddly, they reconnected JUST before a big awards season when Cumberbatch, oddly, needed a girl on the red carpet. Oddly, Hunter’s “work” has been sporadic and minor, and if she’s got something in the hopper now, she got it recently because she added “Cumberbatch” to her last name and managed to use her “engagement” to beef up her visibility . . . and, oddly, she’s neither terribly pretty nor terribly talented (or she wouldn’t have leapt to rescue her stalled career through an advantageous marriage) . . .
It is so nakedly obvious that this marriage is mostly about trying to make Hunter “happen” when she failed to do so herself over the last 20 years. It really is nauseating.
Fetch must be her middle name.
Benedict used the same words – “When it’s right, it’s right.” Sophie and Ben believe that if they continue to use their PR to push this “we’re in love” angle then people will forget that she got pregnant after a few weeks and he was pressed to marry a woman he really doesn’t know.
I normally don’t comment on Cumber posts because…well, I just don’t care about either of them. But what came to mind are lyrics from the old 10CC song….
Art for arts sake, Money for Gods sake
Art for Arts sake, Money for Gods sake
Gimme the readys, Gimme the cash
Gimme a bullet, gimme a smash
Gimme a silver, gimme a gold
Make it a million for when I get old
Looking at him, I wonder if he has Marfan Syndrome. If he has I hope he knows about it.
Ooh! Excellent point! He does have the facial features, doesn’t he?
Aw 🙁 But he’s not that tall? Even if he might be a secret, pretentious twat, I don’t wish that kind of illness on anyone.
Who is wishing it on him?
No one. It’s a figure of speech.
Marfan, no, he really doesn’t look typical for it, though of course I don’t know for certain and variants are manifest. (As a rule I won’t diagnose without examining someone, but in this case I’ll weigh in against.) Facies not typical; trunk/limb ratio totally off. In clinical genetics one must remember to look at other family members and consider that characteristics are more likely to come from them than from a mutation.
I posted this at the end of the last thread so a reposting here:
“When two people meet and its the right combination, it does ground you suddenly”. So-she knew him for 17 years, starred with him in 2009, then got “grounded” suddenly. She basically announced to the world that it was a shotgun wedding. i wonder how tall those custom Manolo Blahniks were?
I expect her experience as a fashion, texture, and mood designer to show up at IMDB at any moment. Gotta really admire the chutzpah of her announcing that she was directing those productions when it’s already been debunked.
She met him 17 years ago, not the right combination. They worked together in 2009, Olivia in the picture, not the right combination. Fast forward to 2014, Harvey Weinstein and Anna Wintour in the picture, the “right combination that gets you grounded”. LOL No kidding…
Hey, it’s not easy to ground a comet…..
“Fashion, texture and mood designer”
Laughing so hard
You guys, it finally happened. I eye-rolled so hard, so many times while reading the Vogue piece that my eyes got stuck there. Please advise.
Stop reading?
I’d help but I’m suffering from the same affliction as is, my guess , anyone else exposed to this insufferable twit.
Sorry, I still don’t get why she’s “exhausting”
And he probably gave her a sapphire ring to complement her eyes.
LOL!!! The extremes in this fandom…. Actually, sapphires are traditional engagement stones in the UK. I thought her ring had a halo of very small powder blue sapphires around the main diamond.
This whole thing sounds like some Victorian Throwback: marriage for social status/children, passions to be found elsewhere. It even includes fictitious write-ups in “the papers.” It’s something out of a playbook from 150 years ago. I’m just waiting for her to get consumption and for him to go off and fight in the Boar War.
Eleanor- I wasn’t going to comment on A Sophie thread, but I couldn’t let your comment go by without telling you it earned my highest praise. I giggle-snorted…out loud, in public, surrounded by strangers. Thanks for that.
YES. Which kinda creeps me out. Like I don’t even know what I’m seeing….is this REALLY happening? Has it happened already? WHY? It’s 2015!!!
Meh. It does seem to be a marriage of social climbing. The engagement after the 1st trimester is cleared, wedding as soon as Sherlock wraps/Oscar voting closes/she gets too great with child, the un-affectionate way they talk about each other and it just comes off as another boring, posh couple marrying for status more than love.
One thing’s for sure, all of our comments are guaranteeing that we’ll be getting as many Sophie posts as possible going forward.
*slaps hand multiple times for typing three comments on this post*
I mean, isn’t that how Vogue talks about Fashion? Yes, the article is pretentious, but the dress is gorgeous and clearly meaningful to her. lalala
um, that really isnt the point though, is it? the ‘im so private’ guy knocks up some woman whos on some monstrous campaign to become famous and show off her wedding dress and all the god awful pretentious details to the world. its more than a bit revolting.
I disagree, it’s kind of sedate-normal-to be expected from future socialite Hunter. A whole ocean of meh. But you know what’s monstrous and revolting? Kardashian’s faux posterior. That’s the Leviathan right there.
kardashian and her ass own what they are, at least.
cumby tries to pretend hes a low key private actor guy when he and his wannabe mrs are thirstier than death valley.
That they are, and I also suspect they’re going to become fixtures of the fashionable circuit, whatever that is.
And to think that in his face to face with Norton, he said he admires Day Lewis because he only turns up for acting then disappears. Why not do the same? Oh, I know, he said it’s because of his publicist. As if he wasn’t the one making the decisions. Oh, wait….
Props to her if she really is directing two productions and about eight months pregnant. The dress? It was okay. Nothing special no matter how Comet Sophie sells it.
Lesbian here, so not caring much on WHO Bendy married, unless it was Tom H., then I’d be fangirling. But yeah, really over Sophie and her pretentious attitude. So what? You bagged a rich, successful upper-crust guy and probably never have to work again unless it’s charity work while nanny is taking care of baby. I’m not sure what I’m supposed to envy, as I have to get back to real work…educating future generations to read and write. I’ll leave Sophie to her “art.”
“Props to her if she really is directing two productions and about eight months pregnant”
shes not.
which could actually be the response to pretty much all of her claims to employment.
Thing is, women like Sophie don’t have a sense of perspective. She’s someone who, while maybe not being extravagantly rich herself, never doubted she’d always have money around and live a comfortable, jet setting life. Hence her finding it perfectly normal that she’d get to wear a custom Valentino gown, gets featured in Vogue etc. She always ran in circles with money, it’s her reality. And it worked out. For now.
Kind of like manifest destiny, huh? Yeah, I could see that. Seems like she thinks that all of this is pretty natural. FWIW, having projects in development is work. But it’s also not guaranteed. So, it probably would’ve been better not to name drop the festivals at this point. But that’s kind of nitpicking. Look at IMDB, projects change all the time.
@H, why would you wish to inflict such a fate on Tom?
I think Tommy could handle Bendy.
BBC News England @BBCEngland ·
Benedict Cumberbatch to read poem at Richard III reburial service http://bbc.in/1EElHa3
my god that man just can’t stay out of the spotlight, can he?
No, he can’t. Not in this case, particularly, because R. III and BC are related.
His job is to be in the spotlight, he is an actor. This is how he gets employed in future projects.
Nanea: RIchard III has got so many illegitimate children half of the England should read a poem at his burial.
how are car ads and presenting gigs going to get him more acting jobs?
and related to richard III? i thought he was distantly related to turing as well?
oy vey is there anyone this goose *isn’t* related to?
@Nanea, yes, and about a million other people in Britain are also related to Richard III.
It’s probably fitting for him to read the poem as an actor-for-hire and a noted one who has recently played Richard III, but it would be ridiculous if they are pretending he is also there as a “relative” of Richard III. It’s really irksome when people tout their spurious ancestral relationships. Wow, Hitler and Churchill were 19th cousins 14 times removed! Oh, the irony! –You could draw an infinite number of similarly loose relations between surprising pairs of people who are contemporaries.
I was hoping they would ask Mr. Armitage instead, Pity.
Avanti dilettanti!! That was exactly what I expected to hear from her once she opened her mouth. I imagine their conversations …. many, many words and hardly any meaning. They are both ridiculous, and it´s a pity that Cumby changed so much – I really liked him.
Well said Coco….
He was always the same (verbose, full of himself), just more fun. It’s like she sucked all the fun and humour out of him.
Love the dress!! I’m a fan of old-fashioned demure wedding dresses.
As for the interview, she sounds properly pretentious and suited to her clueless hubby. A marriage made in heaven. She’s very pretty though.
This! They are suited, end of story. I like both of them, I guess I am equally clueless and pretentious, no matter.
But I also recognize that John Meyer and Katy Perry are suited , even though I do find them both clueless.I can’t stand them separately but they are adorable together.
i dont get the very pretty? i know all that is subjective and believe me, the last thing i want to do is fumble cumby , so no im not jealous, but i cant see how she’d come under a ‘very pretty’ category.
I agree, Jojar Pinks. There’s nothing really wrong with her, she’s fine, nice-looking, even, but those close-set eyes give her an intent, almost beady, cunning sort of look that keeps her from “pretty.” The overstatement of her qualities as well as her qualifications leads one to look twice and reexamine everything that’s being said about her, because clearly someone’s invested in making her more than she is.
You got it, Jojar Pinks, it is subjective. It’s that blue/black dress again.
This is my first time ever commenting or even reading a Benedict & Sophie post. I don’t watch Sherlock, and I’m just not emotionally invested in Benedict like a lot of people seem to be.
But am I the only one who thinks these two look like siblings? It truly drives me crazy – it’s like he’s boning his equally otter-faced sister. Sorry if that’s gross, but I just can’t unsee the resemblance between these two!
THANK YOU! God, I’m not the only one. Too creepy.
Wow. She’s as boring, snooty, and pretentious as she as appears in all those red-carpet photos. I’d been hoping I was reading her wrong. But my gut instinct was apparently right. I mean, JFC, what kind of conceited ninny waffles on about how their designer wedding gown was inspired by Klimt paintings and Russian novels? I’m instantly suspicious of people who like Klimt and Russian literature, but maybe that’s just my own personal experience talking. Real winner you’ve manacled yourself to in any case, Benny.
Aren’t most educated Europeans like this ? They talk about art, music, paintings, theater productions, books, philosophy etc. This is what my younger years were like before I moved in the US. Now I simply keep my mouth shut so that I don’t annoy people too much.
Plus this is Vogue. Even if she didn’t say all those things they’d have to come up with them on their own.
There’s talking about art, books, plays, etc. because you have a genuine knowledge of and/or passion for those things. Then there’s being a pretentious twit who namedrops famous authors, directors, etc. at every opportunity in a transparent effort to prove what a special snowflake you are. And I’ve found that such people tend to have a very shallow knowledge of the things they namedrop. It’s all about puffing themselves up and reinforcing the image they want to project.
“moved to the US”, noticed a typo and it is too late to correct it.
Ok, we’ve got a woman who had her wedding dress designed, and then she organized her wedding. That’s all what happened. But when reading this, you get the impression it like she’s at least written an opera and put it on stage. I’m afraid she believes it herself.
This has nothing to do with art, everything with snobbery.
Amen, lemony. They like these things because that’s what they’re supposed to like. That’s what their artsy, pretentious circle does, so that’s what they do. It’s how they separate themselves from the plebs.
I say this as a once upon a time artist.
Actually, EN, educated Americans also talk about art, music, etc. As do, I imagine, educated Asians, South Americans, Canadians, persons on the continent of Africa, and so forth. It’s not just a European thing.
@alice , I didn’t mean to insult anyone but there is really no comparison. It is what it is. And it is not like I am happy about it. I would prefer it were otherwise but it isn’t. I see my own kids growing up in the US, and they don’t even read Mark Twain and Jack London. I had to tell them who the famous American authors are. They don’t read them at school.
I read those authors when I was 9-10 y.o. on my own. They were light reading compared to everything else on bookshelves in our house.
May be this is why Cumberbatches seem pretentious? Just a different culture?
Wow. Even though Alice addressed your concern that everyone except educated Europeans are dumb, you still came back with a blanket statement.
You are right anon, I should just shut up. I get carried away because I want to have my cake and eat it too. I don’t think anybody is dumb, people just have different priorities.
No offence, Lemony, I know this is a gossip site, but I personally don’t think there’s a need to talk like that about someone’s culture. Instantly suspicious of people who like Klimt and Russian literature? I’m European and like both, and although I didn’t grow up in neither Austria nor Russia, both are a huge part of my country’s cultural life. Russian literature is a compulsory part of our secondary school curriculum and children spend four years studying it. It’s the same in most Slavic countries and a huge number of European ones.
I meant to be snarky, but I should have worded myself better. Sorry.
To clarify, I’m not instantly suspicious of *everyone* who likes Klimt or Russian literature. I’m talking specifically about people from the English-speaking world like myself. If you’re Russian or Eastern European, then obviously Tolstoy is a part of your broader cultural heritage, so it makes sense that you would have a personal connection to his work. But, in the English-speaking world, there’s this widespread perception of Russian novels as being deep and philosophical. And while plently of readers in the Anglosphere have connected with these works, I’ve found that there are others who affect a love of Russian literature strictly to seem deep, edgy, or intelligent. The Klimt thing is a lot harder to pin down.
And, again, this all may be my own personal experience talking. Let’s just say that I once knew someone who said her favorite artist was Klimt and her favorite novel Anna Karenina. She could drop names and prattle off buzzwords, but if you actually tried to engage her in a serious, substantive discussion, she’d quickly reveal herself as the shallow, dull, pretentious poseur she was.
Well, I like Shakespeare’s plays and Harry Potter’ stories too… Am I intelligent or not so much?
Never understood this concept of “higher or superior culture”… Liking a specific author or painter is parte of being intelligent or not? What about knowing how to grow potatoes? Or how to bake a cake? .. For me, culture is so much broader than reading a few books some people in a specific time and / or place decided they were “culture” What is culture after all?
@Potato (Nighty). I agree, to a point. I love Jacobean theatre and fanfiction, but I like the fact that I can tell the difference. 🙂
I agree that people who only consume “high” culture are usually a tad too narrow minded. And not much fun to be around. 🙂
Why are you calling me potato.. Nightshades are more than potatoes… tomatoes too, and belladonnas… I’m a rich variety of plants… 😀
of course i’m not saying that not holding a minimum of general culture (History, Geography,Literature, etc, )isn’t important.. It’s highly important.. But pretending to like Tolstoi just to look intelligent when in fact it’s not your kind of literature seems so.. off… I much prefer an Agatha Christie (for instance) to a Tolstoi… It’s just a matter of personal taste..
I love Agatha. My favourite is Five Little Pigs. Yes, I understand what you mean.
However, BC in one interview said his favourite book is Catcher in the Rye, so I have always been suspicious of his being so well-read and intellectual as his “people” claim.
Yeah, Lemony. I get you. I think a good example is the reference of the Arnolfini portrait in the piece. The author most likely realized that someone like Sophie would see a comparison to her and a Van Eyck – a work of real art. *Sparkles in the eyes.*
Someone who has more than a vague knowledge of art history would get the reference. And maybe spit out their tea to exclaim, “Ouch! Burrrrrnnnnn…”
I really love Klimt’s work. Russian literature, not so much. I never realized my taste in art was indicative of anything. I like Gorey too; should I be scared? Should others be scared?
i understand, lemony. ive met people like that too. they profess an interest in something they think makes them sound intelligent but in reality they seem to have read a wiki entry or synopsis and know very little about the thing they apparently appreciate. try hards and pretentious wannabe intellectuals.
Love both, but love many other things in between. I wouldn’t talk about my wedding as installation theatre or opera though. And I love theatre.
She sounds desperate to be relevant. And he’s the kind of guy who’d fall for that.
No one who is truly an artist talks like that: only posh up-themselves wannabes talk like she does. Trust me, I’ve been around plenty of them in my time to know the difference.
Hey, I’m American and I like Klimt 🙂
But yes, she sounds quite pretentious and seems to take herself very seriously. It sounds like a match in ego heaven
Hey! I like Klimt and Russian literature…. But your description is hilarious.
And Russian literature isn’t all the same either (I had to, sorry, you started it!). I personally hate Tolstoy, love Dostoevsky, Gogol’s great, Chekhov has his moments but can be super boring, and Kharms is awesome.
And yes, I too love both Shakespeare and Harry Potter.
And Klimt 😀
They look like twins. That’s all I got.
LOL! I’m sorry. I have a feeling people are really going to have a go at her and each other over this interview. But doesn’t she seem like she tries to rock this super cool – dgaf – street chic – artsy fartsy personality? Yet, when they said “mood board” all I could think was Pinterest or a 13 year old with a poster board full of glitter and puffy paint. Like I did not imagine a designer’s mood board at all. I feel like she had all this planned for years. No matter who the guy would be.
On another note, I’m not into the design of her dress. But the lace is gorgeous. Couture lives. Incidentally, since they got pregnant after they were engaged and everything, it’s not like a subtle dig to mention the process was rushed by 50%. That’s not a humongous deal. Right, fashionistas? LOL….
@Oh vey “Since they got pregnant after they were engaged and everything.”
Are you being sarcastic?
It’s quite obvious that she got knocked up BEFORE they got Engaged.. Shotgun Wedding!
They got engaged BECAUSE she was pregnant.
@anon321
Exactly!!
Duhhhhh. Sarcasm, ladies. Sarcasm.
Sorry, missed it.
yeah pretty sure it was sarcasm.
I am pretty shocked how obvious it was by the article’s wording it was a shotgun wedding. I expected them to completely cover it up
They compared her to a dog… a whippet is a dog… a weird looking dog.
Didn’t you know, Felice? Rich people own whippets. Looking rich automatically makes a person good looking.
I’m happy with my dobermans, thanks (Bruce and Wayne).
I start to wonder if the writers of these pieces about her incredible greatness , and talent hate her secretly and trying to ridicule her by these obviously overblown articles.
If you read these articles one should think she is greater and more acclaimed than Olivier winner Lyndsey Turner or Tony winner Marianne Elliot to compare her to really succesful female stage directors.
Then if you read her CV then it’s pretty modest…
It’s a more cunning way to mock her than obvious hate.
Or her fans/PR people are just dumb and they think these articles will make people believe she is a succesful director. It does not seem to work. 😉
thing is, that she wore an entirely different wedding gown in her wedding (see pap pictures). No collar, cap sleeves, and many differences. So what was this vogue piece??? an ad?
Any clues to the whereabouts of the monastic cape of silk velvet in the exquisite pale gray of a misty seascape?
A confused octopus was seen scurrying away from Vogue offices in said cape of sea mist, if indeed an octopus can be said to scurry.
An ad is spot on, I’d say. I imagine it was part of the contract.
I think it’s the same dress. They probably altered it some, though.
the colour is different, different sleeves, and i’m sure others who’ve analysed the photos could pinpoint more differences
They knew each other “for seventeen years”. When he was living in Manchester and not even a working actor and she was in Oxford. And the best part of it all is: Jobless Hunter doesn’t mention him by name or even in a remotely personal way. There are a few words about “it being the right combination” (really babe? why do you act like you want to murder him then?) and that’s it. She talks about him in the same frigid manner he does about her. Hilarious. Nice try, Shotgun Hunter.
@Claire!
All of that!
Hi linz thanks and I hope you’re well. I miss you chatting with you ladies
actually i think, these two were made for each other. Cumberbatch always seemed to be a posh pretentious asshole to me and she’s exactly the same. i already fear the moment their kid decides to become an actor. it will be a “joy” his castmates have to deal with.
I’ve a feeling that the kid is going to call them mama and papa (stressing the last syllable), Victorian-style.
OR they will put the kid into boarding school before she or he even learns to talk.
@Joanna
That is a given
mamaaaaeeuurgh.
+1
Also, when he started acting weird during award season it was obvious he was just showing his true fame-hungry colours…
Excuse me, VOGE?
We want to see bridegroom. Not bride.
Shotgun Hunter
Shotgun Hunter
Shotgun Hunter
😀
LMFAO!!!
@Claire!
Save Benedict!
Save Benedict!
Save Benedict!
Because the man who sent paps to photograph Egypt and show the world something important has married the woman who sends people to Vogue.com to see the things that are important to her…
I was really expecting him to marry someone either fun and sexy and/or mega-talented and politically involved.
Instead, he’s married a bland socialite who was bankrolled by her family/connections into a fake artsy career.
Let’s face it: despite all his protestations, he just wanted a female version of himself minus the talent/fame.
Very disappointing, but perhaps predictable?
Yes, disappointing that’s the type of person he wanted to marry. She thinks she’s grounded but went to Rome to get her wedding dress made?. Most people would go to a local shop, or at least one in the same country… Not exactly down to earth is she?. And it doesn’t reflect well on him. Hopefully there won’t be too many more interviews in future.
There will be for sure. If they wanted to be private (as he claimed), we wouldn’t have this Vogue spread talking about the wedding. Brace yourself for a lot more of SH and her pretentious prose.
For months we’ve discussed how miserable and arrogant he’s become, and how these two make it so apparent they don’t like one another even on the red carpet. And now all of a sudden “his dream of falling in love has been destroyed by an unexpected pregnancy” has turned into “this is what he wants”? Really? Because of a silly hype article full of holes you can drive a truck through? I don’t get some of you. As someone said to me on another thread, if he could fake being a fun down to earth guy for a decade in the public eye he could fake this relationship well. And he can’t. Even at the Oscars the passive aggressiveness on both their parts has been captured for posterity on video.
@claire I don’t know what to think, tbh. They way he’s been and the things he’s said since after he got engaged to her make it hard to believe he’s the nice person he was before SH.
Maybe, just maybe, this is what he really is now. I mean, she has highlighted the worst part of him, and that’s who we are going to get from now on.
You meet the right woman, she helps you become the best person you can possibly be; meet the wrong one….
I don’t pretend to know what’s going on behind the curtain or anything but yeah, Claire is right. He definitely gives off weird misery vibes, that plus weight loss and stress aging doesn’t exactly scream someone is getting what they want. She seems ok, he’s the one who’s off kilter.
BC reminds me of Lucy Honeychurch in Room with a View; that bit when one of the characters, talking about Lucy’s impending nuptials to Cecil, remarks – I paraphrase – “She did not look like a bride to be… she lacked radiance.”
why is he a passive enslaved observer here tho? tbh, i found the ‘go photograph egypt’ bollocks really irritating and facile. he was going through his assange phase where he thought he was some kind of social warrior. funny he seems to have forgotten those principles now.
i think people need to face the apparent truth..
this guy is something of a hypocritical fame hungry toss-sock. therefore, he and she are perfect for each other.
You are right. It’s not that he got bamboozled by some woman, it’s more like he was always like this and she’s his litmus paper. She’s shown us what he’s really like: pretentious, fake, ready to jump on any bandwagon (Egypt, feminism, gay rights) to further his career. They will get on like a house on fire.
I am also predicting she will soon put a stop to his chatting to fans at RCs events and the like.
I’m kind of surprised that he is that big of a weakling to allow himself to be pushed by a nobody and her family. What happened to the anger that he displayed when the season began? He was seething, almost in tears and refused to even refer to her by name, using TWILWIPT. Just a few weeks ago she was snatching his arm from her back and rolling her eyes in full view of cameras. How did we get from there to here? Did all of that just go away?
Eh, that’s not fair. It’s not uncommon for actors to pick up a cause once they’ve been exposed to it, just like the rest of us do, and I’d rather celebs with media attention use some of that for good.
I have to say he does tend to stick with a lot of it, like MDA, and he was involved with the UK’s Liberty organization well before TFE, has been for the last 4 years.
He seems to pick up every cause that will get him in the papers (see the feminist t-shirt). Maybe he’s serious about some of it, but I thought he was also serious about keeping his private life private, And look at what happened instead. 🙂
Yes he does like to jump on the cause of the moment bandwagon – he’s now on the Richard III one, claiming he’s a descendant and gets to do a reading at the reburial.
He’s such a famewh*re.
Yes
Ok, so at home on my laptop and final read the scans of the interview and…holy moly. Is Vogue always like that? Did she set the tone and they followed? That was seriously over the top.
that’s how vogue is when it comes to fashion-focused pieces, totally
oh its got her written all over it. who talks about their own wedding like that? and the twirly photo in her dress on the table? sit down you enormous turnip.
😄😄😄
Lol. The snark is strong in this thread. Good times.
I agree this lady sounds incredibly pretentious and full of herself. But then so is Cumby, lol.
I think they’re going to have a really hard landing when they come back to earth (or unplug their heads from their asses) when the baby is born. A screaming newborn during witching hour? Poopy nappies? Cluster feeding? Lol, I dunno what ‘art’ this lady is anticipating when she gives birth.
Oh please, as if they’re going the raise the child. the kid will probably have 3 nannies, while the daddy works on hamlet and later on his hollywood career and mommy does some, uhm, artsy avantgarde things. The only time they will actually spend time with the baby, will be during photoshoots and staged pap photos.
Believe it or not, Benedict is not that rich. That may change but as of now he’s not and can’t see someone as frugal as him paying for three nannies, especially with the high possibility of alimony in his future
He’s got a house in Hampstead; he can definitely afford a nanny. Or three.
Claire! this guys has army of people he has to pay – agents, PR team, personal stylist, assisstant, driver, etc. Trust me, he can find some spare money for few nurses, lol.
Some of those are paid contractually, and or take a cut. Not the same as a full time live in nannies. Whoever this kid becomes is going to have one frigid mother/female role model.
People say this marriage will collapse because of his cheating or baby issues, but I think lack of fun is what could kill it.
This woman sounds very serious and it’s quite apparent he likes to let his hair down in various ways.
If he finds a woman who really makes him laugh and be passionate at the same time, he may not be able to stay faithful to Ice queen.
I didn’t see any of this crazy coming. So, if the sayings “Anything is possible” and “Never say never” apply to anyone, it’s these two. We’ll see. Reading the article, I had the impression that this woman is pretentious and highly affected, but may not realize it. Regardless, I think more well rounded individuals (those exposed to several different lifestyles and subsections of culture) would find her a bore. And boring. But I fully admit these are only impressions.
Likewise, I get the impression that BC is embarrassed by the goofy, laid back parts of his old self. A lot of people who immerse themselves only in high art, ironically, lack a sense of humor and seem very sheltered in upper class backgrounds. I say ironically because the best artists tend to be cheeky and very in tune with various aspects of life and society. I always thought BC had a good sense of humor and tried to diversify his experiences (like going to Manchester). That stuff seemed to support his artistry. Don’t know if this “Very – serious – art – all – the time – laughing – is – only – for – children – peasants – Americans – and – other – imbeciles” attitude is permanent. But could be. People change. (I’m American, btw.)
Sad omens for Cumberbaby’s personality. Because this kid is going to be adorable, no matter how you slice it.
His idea of diversity is a day trip to Manchester? Yikes.
University of Manchester, I guess she meant. 🙂
@oy vey You’re right, she sounds affected and pretentious, but I bet she’s fully aware of it. Her super serious attitude has killed off his goofy side, or so it seems. I hope it is only temporary, but I’m not holding my breath.
IDK, I get the impression he’s embarrassed by being the foolish guy who got caught in an uh-oh pregnancy. He was supposed to be too smart for that, he said so himself(I can’t get just anyone pregnant). Well, surprise, surprise Benedict. All of the discordant, OOC behavior started after that. Then, it seems he decided to try to put a good face on it, a true love, we were planning this anyway,etc. Totally unconvincing, as the masks slip when they think the cameras are off. If this article is even close to how she is IRL, I doubt it’ll last. Not unless he really is the pretentious snob he never seemed to be before SH.
Is it only me who’s unconvinced about this accidental pregnancy being accidental?
Accidental isn’t the right word. It was unplanned on his end and most likely planned on hers. I’d bet my house on it.
Claire- ding ding ding!
Now we are talking. 🙂
@hermi, I’m probably reaching but I feel that she is or spent most of her life trying to emulate Charlotte Gainsbourg or some other actress of this particular French variety (*cough* Sophie Marceau *cough*). The low or “whispery” speaking voice, the aloofness, ennui during her interviews, living in France, avant garde/art-house inclinations, whispy banged haircut shes been rocking since forever, etc, etc. DISCLAIMER: I’m not saying French people are like that, I’m saying she seems to have embraced a certain type of persona. I just keep getting this faux-french vibe from her. (Also, there were websites claiming that she is related to Gainsbourg, when in fact, the Birkin crowd is, not she)
@Hermi, No you are not the only one who thinks that. And I agree with Alice about BC looking embarrassed by this whole thing.
The last sentence of the article is hiliarious. She says her uncle the wedding planner looked wonderful, uh what about the groom? Oh wait, she doesn’t care about him, but he better show up at the church on time. What kind of a weirdo wants her wedding to look like a unicorn killing? Maybe a pretentious twit?
The stupidest thing Benedict Cumberbatch ever did was cozy up to Anna Wintour. She has played a huge role in this whole farce. God Ben, get a clue!
She is wannabe French, Toodles. She’s said before that people are like “Oh they think I’m French at first.”
I don’t know why they make such a big thing about her speaking French. Many of us do, especially in Europe. Unicorn killing? I better not read that article… shudder….
ps BC/Anna Wintour = yes, not a good idea.
@hermi, its not just her speaking French, its ‘speaking in a voice barely above a whisper’ and ‘looking like she’d rather be somewhere else, perhaps the set of an arthouse movie’ (or something like that, i can’t remember the exact wording), comparisons to french actresses, motioning over at assistants for things, head tossing, etc.
@felice, yes I’d bet she relishes that
Yes! I meant U. of Manchester. More diverse student body there. “Lower” Class to “Upper Class” and everything in between. Most likely more ethnic and racial diversity too. Don’t get me wrong. I know Cambridge and Oxford get their share of minorities, but….
Anyway, I’m sure BC has his pretentious, pedigree conscious side. It just used to seem more balanced. Like he could go to Hooters, eat wings, have a good time, throw back a beer or two with Zack QuInto and Chris Pine, but still want to go see Beckett and talk about it over a glass of good wine. That kind of range is a beautiful thing. Sophie and her set would probably only do something “middle class” or “American” in irony. *cough*Coney Island*cough*
Her interview just reminds me of people who are convinced that they really are an artiste and member of the intelligentsia. No one’s ever pointed out their shortcomings to them and they get opportunities that other people have to prove themselves for. That’s just the way it is – a double edged sword. Would not be surprised if she tried to establish her own salon now that she’s Mrs. Cumberbatch. And before I get all the upset, ritzy artists that seemed to be posting today – To me, Kinvara Balfour is someone who took that privilege and worked it like it was going out of style. She seems to work hard and be good at her job, even if her career started with the connections afforded to her title.
Haha! I forgot about that “people think I’m French” thing. John DuPont had French roots, right? “Most of my good friends call me Eagle. Or Golden Eagle. Or Coach. Or John.” Yeah, everyone thinks Sophie is French. Duh.
Sorry. Gotta add that I think neglecting to mention Benedict at all was purposeful. Cos the article is about her, okay? Never mind that the title has to reference Benedict because nobody knows who she is. And let’s be real: Vogue readers are comprised of people who would know Sophie if she were as prolific a theater director as the “press” has been claiming.
If anyone needs an art history refresher, wiki Arnolfini portrait and read the interpretation section…. Love me some Hamish Bowles.
I love everyone in this bar and have nothing else to add but my +1000s.
When I got to the Gainsborough comparison I actually had to get up and walk around for a few minutes. By the time I got to the words “unicorn” and “swanlike neck” I just had to laugh. The word that continues to be apt is “farce”. It’s the dictionary definition at this point. Terry Jones could animate it brilliantly.
If they do a 14-page colour spread in Hello! after the baby arrives, I will not bat an eyelash. It will seem downright pedestrian compared to this lunacy. So private. Much nesting.
Oops. Don’t forget that Hamish was ousted from his customary front row seat next to AW in favor of “The Divine One.” He was a couple of rows back, glaring at the camera. I’m sure wannabes like S are a dime a dozen to him, he’s seen them come and go. He knew what he was doing, and thanks for the snark, Hamish.
Thank goodness they had the sense to give the cover to Serena Williams, a truly accomplished woman. She shows up Sophie for the posing milquetoast she truly is.
If someone with her connections and opportunities hasn’t made it by 37, it’s quite possibly because she’s not that talented or committed to “her art”.
I’m also waiting for someone, anyone, who has worked under her (no pun intended), like a stage designer, actor or assistant to come out of the woodwork and tell us she’s amazing. Because all I read about are comments from people who say she had very little to contribute to the projects they worked on. Or people who say she’s never worked with them (despite it being mentioned in her online CV). I’ll keep an open mind, wait and see.
I guess Vogue forgot to fact check with the Aldeburgh Festival they’ve said numerous times that they were not working with Mrs. C for the festival and nothing had been finalized for anything else this year. I don’t get the trying to make her something she’s not just for marrying the guy who got internet famous for playing Sherlock Holmes. As for her awards and accomplishments the Samuel Beckett Award was a group award she’s directed one show and that tanked after 3 days, it’s not hard to actually look this stuff up and find out. Sorry BC not buying the True Love crap, you knocked up your FWB during campaign season and used that as your PR.
Spot on, sticky notes!
I’m sorry you can’t tell me that this article is supposed to be taken seriously. It is so over the top and ridiculous. A teenager in love with a big dictionary seems the right description for it. Why would anybody want to pay for this drivel? It makes me laugh and also feel sorry for journalists today because that job doesn’t seem to need any skill anymore.
And regarding the pretentious couple: what comes round goes round.
Today
1) My Dad just came home from work, apparently he went to ‘the ivy club’ today in london and chatted with Benedict Cumberbatch. He said ‘he was taking photos with his little pals’. WHAT. HE DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE GRAVITY OF THIS.
2)Duke of York Theatre
David Rymer @davidrymer9 · Earlier tonight I saw Benedict Cumberbatch at work. Now, I’m eating soup and craving Jam Roly Poly. Swings and roundabouts.
3) https://twitter.com/safiia_1997/status/580478043476623361
What did he mean by little pals? Fans? Guy friends?
Dwarves. Benedict was dressed as Smaug.
So many commenters have been having issues with this relationshipnfrom the beginning. I am starting to think there is something weird. I have no idea and I don’t care enough to care. It is their life. She said it, it is theatre, opera and art. They are on stage to be seen. She is a poseuse from Moliere “Les precieuses Ridicule”. They might be perfectly suited. Good Luck! And I am making her more famous by clclicking and reading about her.
Lots of jealous ppl on here 🙂 lol
I think there are a lot of people trying so hard to defend her which is funny as they come across so angry in their defense. Most skeptics and haters were getting bored and moving onto fizzy Hiddles.
Is the reason really because for the longest time they said she is not a famewhore she doesn’t talk to the media. Well, that escuse has sailed which is not all that surprising.
Ps, as someone with plenty of friends who professionally do back to back plays, I am kinda laughing at those who think her resume is impressive. Compared to my friends, chica just has a hobby and not much of one at that. Lol.
Yup same here. All my theatre friends may come from privileged backgrounds but they don’t talk pretentious wank about dresses and boy do they work their arses off to get the work they get, and their CVs are respectable and TRUTHFUL.
I have a friend who is an actress. She grew up in Hollywood, and both her parents are actors. They were never rich or famous, but they did a lot of TV and they knew everybody. My friend moved to NYC and worked her butt off in the theatre. She was working as the house manager during one of Sophie’s Lacuna Theatre productions and no I won’t ask her if she remembers anything because my friend was house managing, directing 2-3 plays and acting herself back then. Like she always does, like you have to do when you are a working actor in NYC.
Connections will only get you so far in the industry – you still have to prove yourself; as children of famous/successful parents will all tell you.
In my experience those from privileged/upper class backgrounds tend to be quite down to earth and are not afraid of hard work – its those from the nouveau riche middle/upper middle classes that have the ‘tude (see Bendy and his new bride).
Yes to this.
Just wondering. Are the married couple ever papped together in central London doing ordinary things?
Nope! Never. The only times they’re papped are in obscure places where paps don’t hang out. In other words, like when they hired paps to photograph them on their honeymoon, replete with him looking smugly into the camera. There was one pap shot with a Jaguar that the car company admitted on twitter was a paid advert. Utterly sickening.
Nope! Never. The only times they’re papped are in obscure places where paps don’t hang out. In other words, like when they hired paps to photograph them on their honeymoon, replete with him looking smugly into the camera. There was one pap shot with a Jaguar that the car company admitted on twitter was a paid advert. Utterly sickening.
That’s strange, isnt’t it? I’m not a British citizien (Scandinavian) but the British tabloids and their paps are well-known all over the world.
I mean, they are having a baby in a month or two. They are about to become a family. And they are supposed to be a happily married famous (-loving) couple.
I loved it when someone tweeted how they saw BC and SH (before the engagement) with Anna Wintour at the NT to watch Ballyturk and apparently SH fell asleep during the performance (which is some feat, since the production was breathtakingly high speed and quite noisy).
I can cut her some slack for this one. She was probably recently pregnant. I’ve never “expected” anyone. But several of my friends became like narcoleptic in the early days. I will admit it’s a pretty funny sighting, given how her true interests are oh-so esoteric and she is above “parties and famous people.”
No – there aren’t even any fan shots of them out and about on twitter.
It just goes to prove that they can be private when they want to me – meaning when they are not tipping the paps off for some free PR.
I can def see the Charlotte Gainsburg similarities – SH is a failed wannabe.
PS, i loved CG in Nymphomaniac by Lars Von Trier – she had guts to take on that role and all that came with it.
Shotgun Hunter makes other failed wannabes look accomplished. Having said that I don’t consider CG a failure.
CG is not a failure. Come on, she’s a very successful (and good) actress. I like French cinema and I think she’s great. Please do not compare SH to CG.
Erm, I didn’t say that CG was a failure – I’m actually a fan. I was saying that SH is a failed CG wannabe as she is clearly trying to be her.
Ain’t gonna happen. 🙂
To put this in perspective, go to TFOE. Look at the series of pics from Oscar night, specifically the one posing with David Oyelowo and wife. Enlarge and zero in on BC’s face. Drunk, old, miserable. It’s sad and frightening to see what has happened to him in just six months during his involvement with this woman.
I hate to say this, but it all just seems weird and like there’s too much trying. I hope I’m wrong, cause he’s a good actor and I wish him well, but hmmm….
This was just one interview. Admittedly the “I see opera I see art” statement is a bit ridiculous or maybe funny language but hardly anything more.
I think it would be fair to wait until she has given more interviews. Judging somebody on a single interview is a bit harsh.
You mean more recent interviews? Because this one sounds similar to the old ones. I don’t like or dislike the woman. She is what she is. But, truthfully, I really don’t think any more interviews with her are necessary unless they are legit about her and her legit project that is legit happening and she is legit largely responsible for. And even then, the scope should be more appropriate to her fame if in a publication like Vogue. Usually, that would merit a paragraph in the columns about current culture and happenings.
a single interview all about her wedding to a supposedly private man illustrated by her posing pretentiously in her private wedding dress. and this single interview has only happened because shes married to him. shes used this to get attention and raise her profile.
sorry, but these things are non disputable.
Why on Earth should there be more interviews with her, unless it’s by the local paper of some festival town – if indeed she is ever a major participant somewhere sometime? She’s married to a ‘celebrity’, but isn’t one herself.
Wintour must have a big thing for BC to make such a fuss over the his artsy bride, esp. with the out of the blue relationship/engagement/pregnancy/ wedding narrative, (more realistically brief involvement/pregnancy/engagement/super speed wedding).
I see Robin Williams choreography in her dress description.
http://youtu.be/mXkApy0gkjM
I see flare, *flings arms in the air* I see flame, *flings arms In The Air* I see SILVER!
Hi ho Silver, away!!!!