A new clip from the latest episode of KUTWK features Kim Kardashian bashing Rob’s depression in absentia. It’s been a few weeks since Rob compared Kim to the sociopathic Amy Dunne from Gone Girl. The Klan put out official word that there’s no cause for alarm. Then we heard that Rob lashed out at Kim because she told him to snap out of his depression. Kim has always said Rob doesn’t deserve sympathy and needs to “get up” and solve his problems.
My take is that, yes, Rob is seriously depressed. And no, the Kardashians don’t have any problem exploiting his depression for a storyline. I’m not sure whether Rob agreed to his mental state being up for grabs on the show, but it doesn’t matter to his family how he feels about his privacy. On the new episode, Kim sits around with Kris and Khloe to talk about Rob. Kris actually sounds a little concerned, but she doesn’t understand how to help Rob. They already have all the resources in the world, you know? Kris remains puzzled.
Credit where it’s due to Rob: His access to Kardashian resources must certainly include plastic surgery. Unlike his sisters, Rob hasn’t gone that route. That’s what irritates Kim the most. She’d probably like to ship Rob off for lipo or whatever. Here’s the exchange:
Kris Jenner is trying to find a solution to help her only son recover from his recent bout of the blues in the clip, telling Kim, “I don’t know how it works. I’m not a therapist, I’m not a doctor. But I do know that we’ve got all the resources in the world and yet he doesn’t access.”
But Kim lashes out.
“I think that now what we have to do is everyone back off. Everyone licks Rob’s a** and does whatever he says,” she fumes. “And at some point you have to give it up! We all make his life so easy. Ok we’ll drive you around with a chauffeur so no one has to look at you. We had a chef on standby, a trainer. We’ll send people to run out and buy you socks, underwear! This is pathetic!”
Saying that she’s done, Kim stresses to her mom that they have to put up a united front.
“We’re not going to cater to him anymore, but it has to be all of us.”
However, Jenner isn’t convinced that her son is responsible right now.
“The other way to look at it is he’s got something that maybe he can’t help himself,” she says, but Kim dismisses her thoughts: “No, he’s still competent to where he can ask for help when he needs it.”
[From Radar Online]
What Kim says here wouldn’t be completely out of bounds if we were talking about a normal family. There’s a certain point where some people will take advantage of their family’s willingness to help them. I don’t think that’s the case with Rob. He’d probably like nothing more to be his old, thin, club-hopping self again. But he’s been told so many times that he’s simply an embarassment. I don’t think Kim’s warped version of tough love will do anything but push him deeper into depression.
Also … why would Rob be asking the family to go buy him socks? He’s a sock mogul. If Rob has anything on his side, it’s an abundant supply of socks.
Here’s the clip of Kim talking to Kris and Khloe about Rob.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & Getty
I think it’s a combination of both. I remember from earlier seasons that Rob used to get money from Khloe and Kris (like allowance) even though he was a grown adult. So they were enabling his do-nothing lifestyle instead of providing him with resources to become a fully functioning adult on his own.
However, I do think he has depression and perhaps a drug addiction now that is beyond a “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” kind of mentality and he needs help from professionals, with the support from his family. He doesn’t need just an assistant or chef or trainer, he needs doctors and therapists and friends.
I think Rob is depressed and need real professional help. But I also think Kim is right. I watch their show and Rob has always been an entitled brat who does take advantage of his family especially Klhoe and Kris. He spent years leaving rent free with Khloe and Lamar all the while being a complete jerk. I think Rob gets a lot of sympathy here because Kim is vile so she makes it easy to be against anything she says and people don’t actually watch the show to see what Rob is actually like and that Kim actually has a point. And sometimes people can actually benefit from some boundaries.
An entitled brad is somebody who hasn’t received the proper parental guidance during its childhood.
He is an adult now and that makes it more difficult for parents to intervene.
Apart from that: yes, he needs professional help. And no, when in a severe depression you can’t just pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
He’s in such a double bind – he needs boundaries against these people who exploit and publicly humiliate him. Yet they are who he is completely dependent on for *emotional* support. He’s probably afraid to erect boundaries – there’s probably some irrational fears about what would happen to him if he just said no!
Lol I would never admit it if I watched their show. But that also explains why you’re defending Kim…you know it’s all scripted right? Especially to make the cash cow look good.
Lol @ Hannah I watch their shows when they give the Holliday marathons. It’s mindless fun. I watch a lot of news and as you know much of it is bad so sometimes I like to watch lighthearted stuff or shows that don’t require much concentration. And I’m not defending Kim, I’m just pointing out that just because she is monster famewhore pr0n queen who only cares about selfies and make-up does not mean she’s ALWAYS wrong. And if you believe the way they portrayed Rob in the show he’s not the snowflake victim that people think.
Please, Kim will you keep your disgusting graphic details to yourself. You make me want to hurl.
Even if he was the worst brat out there, that doens’t mean he doesn’t need help now that he’s depressed.
I have family members that are/have spiraled out of control. We don’t have the means to get them the help they need. We’ve had to cut them for our own sanity.
I know I’d have an intense identity crisis with this family right out of the womb. This is a very materialistic bunch of people. I’ve never seen one episode of them hiking or getting into nature- do they live on the set of Logan’s Run? Someone in this family has to express vague dissatisfaction and emptiness- it just happens to be Rob.
I totally agree. Has the family ever said he was depressed or was it the media? I watch the show (yea I’m one of those fans) and I don’t recall them saying he’s depressed. I think he doesn’t want to be seen because he has added pounds and is embarassed. It’s time for Rob to grow up. First he needs to stop living w/ Khole, and she should insists he find his own place. Khole and his mom give in to his every whim and like Kim said, they need to stop. I was depressed for a long time after my mother died, but I had to keep going (work, etc) and then I found my dog and he helped me through alot of it. Having him made me go out because he needed to be walked. From that I met many people in my neighborhood and became close friends w/ a number of them. Back to Rob, he needs to keep going, get up, find something to do, what about his sock business who’s running that; move out of Khole’s house. He has the money and means to get help and if he dids lipo he should get it. I know I would if I could afford it.
If he’s depressed, he needs to live with someone who is aware of the situation. That’s advice straight from a doctor treating it. The risk of suicide is high, especially when someone starts feeling a little better after an acute episode and has the energy. Really, this is not a good time for Rob to go solo. First he needs to recover.
Also I think he’s taking care of Khloe’s pets at her place, I think. Which is good for her, him, and the pets.
There is nothing wrong with living with family for whatever reason. The overwhelming majority of people in the world do just that. This idea that isolation is desirable for most people is relatively recent and only in certain cultures.
But what have Khloe, Kim and Pimp Mama Kris done for their money? Just exist. They recieve money from the reality show, they don’t have a job either, so why shouldn’t Rob take advantage of that money?
Since he’s an adult, right?
Little from column A little from column B. Rob’s a spoiled lazy entitled brat AND Kim is a selfish self absorbed unfeeling cow.
It’s like Ying and Yang, perfect balance.
Kim can gloat and put down her brother all she wants. But her time in the spotlight can’t last forever. Her younger sister is making news and will probably become Demon Mother’s cash cow in a few years.
There are many people who can’t wait to see Kim fall on her overinflated ass. It was not champagne and rose petals that you were being showered with in that p0rn you did. Get over yourself
Yes, eventually, Kim, will fall on her over inflated ass…lucky for her, she’ll probably bounce right back up!!! Maybe that’s why she got that pillow ass, she knew the day would come when she would need it, to save her from a huge fall!
That’s funny – “it is not champagne and rose petals that you were being showered with” in her porn!
Brilliant!
How does Kim manage to speak with both a whiny, high-pitched girlie voice AND a growly, vocal fry at the same time? Wow. She combines two of the worst voice tones a female could ever have and they are antithetical to each other.
That, and the way Khloe purses her fish mouth.
Ew. Ew.
I feel sorry for Rob. What an awful family.
“She combines two of the worst voice tones a female could ever have and they are antithetical to each other. ”
LOL! That’s the perfect description.
Yes, I second the “amazingness” of that description. My brain is fuzzy today. Excuse my lazy English (despite that it’s my native tongue). 😛
Her voice really is the worst.
I feel sorry for him, if he’s seriously depressed he might not be able to face leaving the house. Kim’s advice is almost pointless if he’s suffering from a mental illness.
He does sound depressed, but also like he’s used to being looked after so maybe that makes his family think it’s less serious than it is if he still asks them for financial help or whatever. They do seem to take a hard/unemotional line with each other at times, until there is a breakdown or crisis and then they come together. I haven’t see it in a while but it’s weird to see Khloe not saying anything, she’s usually the most vocal when someone is being bullied as they seem to do to each other and was my favourite of the triple K’s.
Yes and no. My mother has Borderline personality disorder and you absolutely have to have limits and boundaries with her. At the moment she is living with my sister and brother in law after being unemployed for 6 months and deciding to “stick it out” with her POS boyfriend after he solicited a prostitute. I guess he stopped paying their rent so now shes our problem. I do feel like if she was made to suffer the repercussions of some of her actions it would wake her up a little bit. Since she always gets rescued from them though she doesn’t learn. Ugh. Sorry for that personal rant, its been so freaking hard with her lately and it feels nice to talk about it even if it is on a thread about the Kardashians lol.
As far as Rob goes I can see where Khloe and Kris have a tendency to enable him. I think they worry about suicide (I feel like its been mentioned on previous shows?) and I can totally relate to that with my mom. If you don’t give into their demands that definitely runs through your mind. Its a sucky situation and I hope he gets help.
My moms borderline too! I have cut off all relations with her though after a long crazy train. Others in my family are still sympathetic even though theyre fully aware of her instability and manipulation. And yes your right you have to be firm bc they are the best manipulators ever. Best of Luck
Aw thank you! Yes its so tough because she gets herself into these situations where she would be homeless on the street if someone doesn’t help her. Hopefully she gets a job soon but her job skills are very sub par so in the event she gets a job who knows if she will be able to support herself? Its such a mindf**k. On top of that you have to explain all this to your husband who looks at you like you have 3 heads when you tell him “thats how she is.” Best of luck to you as well! I know its one of the hardest things to do, I had to cut my dad out of my life.
Isnt it great to talk to someone who understands how these people work. Mindf*ck is the perfect word for them! Really makes you feel like your losing it. Beyond frustration. In my situation my mother will get into desperate situations to get sympathy and work her way back in. My dad who she put through HELL still feels bad for her and is nice to her (he is a giant pushover though) she has a rich fiance too. Blows my mind. And i agree about the job stability. Their personalities dont agree with anything steady or long term. I think of it as shes doing this on purpose its not something she cant help (mental disprders vs personality disorders) so i shouldn’t feel bad. They always seem to get out of the stickiest situations too. Master manipulators.I’ll Pray for your siblings putting up with her!
Thank-you for sharing both your stories. My relative doesnt have borderline (she’s diagnosed with depression) but I can still relate to the frustration when it comes to having a person in the family who has a mental illness. I’ve found I can be more compassionate to a stranger with the same illness than to her. Mental illnesses do nothing but destroy everything you love. My heart goes out to you both.
I don’t want to come across as an insensitive a$$hole, but I have a friend who went through a multiple years duration of depression. Extremely debilitating for her. She finally got her meds regulated and got back on track only to followed by a painful divorce where she found out her husband had been cheating on her. Her friends have all been very supportive of her, but after several years after the facts, she still monopolizes every conversation with retelling the details of her divorce, and what a d!ck her ex husband is. Our group of girlfriends try to always listen and support her, but after so long, you do want to tell them to move the heck on. So I can’t shade Kim completely on this one. It’s hard to know what the truth of the circumstances are. You could make a valid argument either way. Just like an addiction to pain killers, I think some folks get addicted to the attention, sympathy and the help that they get from others, to the point where they lose the desire to do anything for themselves, if that makes sense. Not to be confused with clinical depression.
“Just like an addiction to pain killers, I think some folks get addicted to the attention, sympathy and the help that they get from others, to the point where they lose the desire to do anything for themselves, if that makes sense.”
To simplify it, no one who is addicted to painkillers is addicted to the attention and sympathy. Most addicts have every desire to beat their addiction, but the physical and mental draw is way too strong. Besides the fact that addiction is still so misunderstood that many aren’t even sympathetic to begin with.
I wonder if your friend was like this before her bout with depression? Like, I’m wondering if this is just how she is as a person, and it may have nothing to do with her depression at all.
Anyway, that’s frustrating as hell and a really difficult position for you and your friends to be in.
I wish I had some advice, but I’d probably bang my head against a wall if I had to listen to that.
Hi SnarkySnark and Longhair, my husband has BPD so I get you … It can be crazy making! If you haven’t already, I suggest you check out BPDFamily. It’s a website for people who have loved ones/family members with BPD. It has a lot of excellent information and a very helpful community where you can just vent or seek advice and most importantly find someone who really understands you in a way no one else can!
I think he’s genuinely depressed because people with depression do have similar issues with socializing. Even the most mundane tasks can seem impossible, like getting out of bed. Yes, even that.
I won’t judge him because “normal” people might view this as co-dependency or serious exploiting. Who knows how it really is with this family…
All very good points and who knows how these symptoms of depression could be exacerbated by having film crews all over your family.
I’m sympathetic to the realities of his depression despite getting the feeling that he’s just not a nice guy and is probably pretty selfish. Not necessarily his fault, but it’s how he seems.
Dear Kartrasian. Ladies:
Go Lick Your own stinking butts. Just because your brother wishes not to look plastic (talking to you Kim ) and is working on his health and life out of the spotlight you and your mother and sisters have no right to bash him
No man will every survive this family. EVER.. you have to cut ties and move on. The ones that have done that are better for it. Rob as a male was never going to have the attention his sisters/ mother got. So I think a part of it for the women is SHAME/EMBARRASSMENT; because he is not successful in their view of success as they are. He would have done better to stop trying to be like them and just build a life outside of Hollywood.
Hopefully he will get himself together and realize that trying to fit into this female family is never ever going to work. It will kill him emotionally and physically in the end.
They destroy the men around them.. intentionally or not.. it happens over and over.
I fully agree.
But I think the women are destroying themselves as well, just in a slower, different way. The constant surgeries, the lack of decent parenting and education, and the desperate need for fame and money- it’s not going to end well for any of them.
Yes to lisa2 and lucy2
They are all awful. But I fully agree about the shame and embarrassment. Additionally Kim is supremely ugly on the inside. So she loathes and despises him as she does her deep deep down self. And she can’t control or change or revise him.
They all just all awful.
What disgusts me the most is that there are people out there that admire this revolting family. WTF?
Astounding isn’t it?
I hope North never has to deal with any depression if mom’s response is “snap out of it”.
Right? Just what you need to hear when you can barely get out of bed in the morning and already feel like a worthless failure.
Man… It makes my heart go cold to think of that gorgeous child. Completely innocent, born into this mess. I wish I could keep her this small so we don’t have to see what this coven of succubi turns her into.
Intense – “coven of succubi”.
I don’t know much about Rob, but I know a bit about mental health. I’m not a therapist, just an ordinary Jane who is also a National Alliance on Mental Illness Family-to-Family educator and a QPR Suicide Prevention Gatekeeper Trainer. (www.nami.org) (http://www.qprinstitute.com)
Rob’s actions aren’t out of bounds for a person suffering from a brain disorder, particularly one who doesn’t have solid family support or coping skills. That said, these illnesses can be very difficult for the family and friends of someone suffering from them, and suffering is the exact word to describe what is happening inside the head of someone in that situation.
So my heart goes out to Rob and, if I were talking about another family, I’d have a little more tenderness for his family as they deal with Rob’s illness. But, as someone earlier up the thread pointed out, they’re treating a potentially fatal illness as a storyline. I will spare the world my rant about that.
I hope Rob can, somehow, find his way to a good medical team and get the help he needs.
Right. I have sympathy for him and also some sympathy for the family about him not being able to take advantages of the lifelines they are throwing him (trainer, money for therapists, etc.). I’m sure it is frustrating, but part of depression is not being able to muster up the energy to help yourself. While depression has a big biological basis, I would also bet that the weight gain cycle is not helping, and the fact that he does have to depend on his family fuels his self-esteem issues.
It doesn’t seem that money is the problem here – that is merely a distraction.
As someone who has had some major depressive episodes – I completely get that. And knowing what kind of burden it could be on those closest to me, really just made me feel worse. When I would force myself out of bed, and to go visit friends – it wasn’t for me. It was to give my boyfriend (now husband) some piece of mind that ‘hey maybe she’s not doing so bad today’ and because I felt like I was holding him back from seeing some of our friends, because we hang out with mainly couples, and he’d have felt like a tag-along. It was never because he made me feel bad for not wanting to do things… I just knew it made him really happy to see me attempting to keep myself moving. He didn’t realize how hard it was to do, but now that I have things leveled out, I’ve told him how miserable and difficult it was, and he really felt bad. He knew I was depressed, but it was something he’d never experienced himself, so he didn’t realize what a complete miserable time it was for me to get up, shower, and act like I’m not feeling broken.
I’m just so thankful that I didn’t have to deal with such a narcissistic family. I was lucky that – while I knew it was hard on them – that they never snapped at me, or just said ‘well just try to be happy’.
I feel bad for his family in the same way that I felt bad for my own – it’s so tiresome and hard to understand for those dealing with depressed loved ones. But I don’t feel bad for Kim in the way that she seems like her annoyance outweighs his feelings of misery. She’s exactly the kind of person that makes depressed people feel worse.
Exactly, Erinn, particularly your last paragraph. I hope you are feeling better. And you sound really lucky to have found a good man. Who, based on your lovely post, sounds equally lucky to have found a good woman.
I always love your posts, Erinn, and I’m really grateful to you for sharing your story. My brother has suffered from a few of his own major depressive episodes. While I’ve dealt with depression in a mild way (anxiety is more my area of personal expertise), it was always so hard to understand why he was the way he was. Especially when we were young, and all I saw was his anger and I just didn’t get it. Now that I’ve gotten older and closer to him and have started a bachelors in humanistic psychology, it’s so much easier to emphathize with him. But even so, reading your post felt like taking rocks out of my heart. It took a real weight off my chest to see that someone understands that feeling so clearly– the constant worry about the person you love, always there. It was also incredibly helpful to get some insight from someone who’s been to that place. Thank you to the moon and back for sharing, and I’m so glad to hear that you’re in a balanced place. Sending much love and light your way.
What can a person do, so suffering from guilt for the anxiety, depression, etc., that their disorder places on their loved ones? Take them to their psychiatrist – what? It’s difficult to need support, and be a burden, at the same time…
Thanks guys!
I also have the perspective of someone who’s been the one dealing with the depression, and the one doing the worrying – so I probably have a bit of a more rounded understanding. After my grandfather passed, my dad sunk into a deep depression as well. It’s terrifying to worry about someone so much and have such a limited ability to do anything about it – especially when you’re waiting to see if certain medications are going to work or not, and just having to wait and see. And at times, you end up just walking on eggshells, trying to not do something to upset them more, and trying to not push them to do something that they really aren’t up to.
I find this to be one of the most genuine comics dealing with depression – it’s funny – but it is genuine, and not mocking at all. I actually found it while I was in a depressive episode, and found it did at least lighten my mood and I could relate to it so well – http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.ca/2013/05/depression-part-two.html
I do feel a lot better now – I know the ‘red flags’ of when I’m starting to get really down again, so I can take care of myself before it gets bad. I’m not stuck in a depressive episode now, which is great. But I still at times really have to push myself not to just wrap up in a blanket and never leave the couch. The difference is, after a little while of grumbling I can drag my butt to the shower and once I’m out of the house, I’m usually good to go – compared to when the idea of having to interact with people or do things would reduce me to tears.
Very well said. I’m glad you are in a better place now. I have had to seek treatment for major depression. I call it THE ABYSS.
My parents did not understand it, they were of the “suck it up, life is hard” variety. I asked them to read William Styron’s, Darkness Visible. An account of the author’s own battle with depression. It helped them understand that depression wasn’t a choice. They are not the most empathetic creatures in the world, but they do help to the best of their ability. I’ve had to accept they can’t give emotional support but they will drive me to an appointment or help pay for therapy–of which I’m grateful. It can be a lonely road when no one understands the pain of it.
I wish you every happiness in life and your marriage!
Kim’s empathy is so touching. (Said no one ever )
I think it is cute that people still believe these “storylines” are real.
I don’t know man, Youtube the episode where he has the emotional breakdown in the therapist’s office. He deserves an Academy Award if that was acting.
Considering the number of children they have its not exactly ground-breaking one of them could suffer from a real mental illness. I think it’s too unrealistic to think they’ve got the whole world on stand-by in perfect working order to cherry pick what storyline they want to address on a weekly basis.
More likely they just choose to manipulate the real embarrassing sht that happens to them along with their fake drama. Example: Amber Rose reminding the world about Kim. Khloe tried to act classy and when Amber got too real suddenly the whole family went into PR mode. That’s what’s happening now. The family is trying to make the shocking behavior of Rob into something they can control and keep from embarrassing them.
I’ll admit that I watch the shows and have seen all the episodes, and I agree with Amy’s assessment. Whatever is happening in their lives is strectched out and dramatized for the show; or they focus on one thing to take the heat off another thing.
With that being said, believing that Rob somehow willingly gained over 100 lbs-that he obviously cannot lose, it’s been 2-3 years at this point-just for a storyline stretches the boundaries of common sense thinking. I also agree with Weareallmaedofstars: unless Rob is an Academy-level actor, that sh8t was real.
Yes, +1 to everything Amy said.
I agree and I believe the show is scripted BS to the hilt. Just because they lie about everything it doesn’t automatically follow that everything is a lie.
She has to be the centre of attention no matter what.
Plus this is probably scripted and planned. I don’t believe a word coming out of that plastic face.
Her voice drives me up the wall.
She’s almost taken the spotlight from her mother now.
She is so vile. She loves to use vile words doesn’t she. I wonder if North’s first word was f*** or what. Why is this woman popular with all the little girls of the world and by little girls I mean both age and maturity level. She is a horrid person.
All she is concerned about is his looks. Hes fat, that is her only issue. I hate these “people”
Being subsumed by his weight is gross, isn’t it?
Well, she would know about ass licking.
Ba da dum.
LOL!
To quote the Burt Reynolds idolizing Sterling Malory Archer, ‘Phrasing’.
Whether or not he agreed to have his mental state exploited for the show is a non-issue if he is seriously depressed. If he is having that much trouble functioning on an everyday level, it goes without say that he is not truly capable of providing consent for this situation, and therefore he really is being exploited. This guy is roadkill to his family and yet he is on some level content to live off what crumbs they will give him. They treat him like an embarrassment and a nuisance and that should be enough for him to stop trying to seek their approval and go his separate way. I remember when he was on Dancing With the Stars and he was so proud of going to UCLA. Where is that Rob, the son of one of the most powerful trial lawyers there ever was? He needs to come back.
Really! He could be a force for GOOD and counteract what the women in his family are putting into the universe. Take care of yourself first, but then think of the motivation to do the opposite of what these morons are up to! Come on, Rob!!!
I remember seeing one bit when he was on DWTS (which is quite an accomplishment, they have to really work at it). His older sisters were in the audience. Khloe and Kourtney were watching him, Kim was focused on her phone (texting, probably). She looked so bored. So she’s never been “supportive”, not even when he was obviously doing something pretty impressive. It always has to be about her, and anybody else in the picture is just a prop.
Robert Kardashian wasn’t a powerful trial lawyer. He joined OJ’s defense team only to be able to stay in contact with his friend. He was apparently actually an entertainment lawyer- contracts and such. He didn’t do anything significant for the defense team. He wasn’t a criminal lawyer. His business was in the entertainment industry. So Rob didn’t have to stretch too far to be like his dad, although he probably wasn’t really cut out to be a lawyer in the first place. The pressure to go to law school may have been misplaced, but his only living parent (his Demon Mother) was hardly going to push for anything educational.
Robert Sr., was very hard-working and successful. He was well respected in his field. It is not easy to pass the Bar and be a successful attorney in California regardless of your specialty.
I really hope Kim never has to deal with depression or anxiety or mental illness so some airheaded twit who is supposed to love and care about her can just tell her to “snap out of it” because her life is awesome. The fact that he’s depressed when he’s got “nothing” to be depressed about is how you know that it’s a real, actual disease. I don’t know anyone who chooses to feel hopeless and worthless and unloved.
She’s a f.king moron.
+1
Kim is a vapid empty shell. Her only problems are finding the right angle for a selfie and contouring her nose.
Exactly; when I was a little girl, I put becoming “hopeless, worthless, and unloved”, on the top of my list of what I wanted to be, when I grew up.
kim’s so sweet and lovng. i bet she’s a great mom! *sarcasm*
IKR? Kanye seems to have some legit mental health issues, which can be genetic. I shudder to think how she’d treat her daughter if she winds up with some mental health issues.
or if Nori has weight issues.
I don’t understand how someone with a degree in business from USC can just do nothing with his life. if I were him I would have started my own business without his family and not a sock company that was a stupid idea. He should just realize that his family is just a bunch of sucubi and he doesn’t need them and do his own thing.
Not everybody is cut out to be an entrepreneur, especially fresh out of college. Internships and starter jobs letting him see how businesses work would make more sense. But I think Kourtney (who actually does know about such things) tried to set him up with an internship but he didn’t really take advantage of it. By then he was too convinced that he should have the same easy ride that his sisters had, since the stupid show was on while he was still in college. The show was especially damaging for him, gave him a twisted perspective. If his father had lived, it would have been very different because his father could have been a real model for him as well as giving him opportunities for real work. He needed time and opportunities to grow, as is the case for many people (it’s not uncommon to be uncertain of the path to take for years after college), but that show in particular took him in a very wrong direction. He was a rich kid so his grip on real life was going to be a tad shaky anyway, but he would have had much more of a chance away from his Demon Mother and her machinations.
Success is a relative thing, too much emphasis is put on joining the rat race and making bank. This kid needs to get his head together not get a desk job and a mortgage. Not everything in life is about doing what everybody else does.
Trust her to use the word lick instead of kiss. *Shudder*
You are spot on! That one word substitution says. it. all. I am so skeeved out, but it’s so hilarious!
Oh my you are so right
*shudder* indeed!
Imagine being Rob for a second. One day you’re in college, your sisters have a little clothing boutique at the local shops, your mother and step father are doing pretty well financially and you have a fair idea of how your life is going to pan out. Finish college, get an internship at some big corporate firm, maybe follow your father’s legacy and head to law school. You do feel a little bit of pressure to live up to the idealised memory you have of your long deceased father which maybe manifests in little OCD quirks but it’s nothing you can’t handle. Date some models, do a little blow on the w/ends… Life is good.
Then one of your sisters gets peed on and suddenly the whole world is talking about your family. There’s club appearances, red carpets and now you’re on TV. When you go to clubs now, everyone knows your name. There’s no velvet rope for you. Girls are falling all over you. You GOT this, man. You start to believe the hype, forget what’s real and turn into an entitled brat. Drugs are free and they’re everywhere. You don’t have to work. You just do you and you’re getting paid.
But wait… You start to notice that people only want to talk to you about your sisters. No one wants you to endorse their products or make appearances unless it’s with a sister. Even better if you can bring all three of the older ones. Now your mother is focussed on building a brand but no one seems to care that you have the same surname. Why is everything being handed to the girls and not me? We all know that none of us are special and none of us have done anything to earn this. So why is it so much harder for me? It’s not fair. Easier to hang out with my brother in law, play video games, eat too much and probably do some more drugs. Until your brother in law is removed from the picture. Now you’ve got nothing but your drugs, your burgers, your own self loathing and total disdain from the ones who should understand better than anyone in the world.
TLDR: Yeah, I’m not a fan of Rob but I can see how this went down. I think he needs inpatient rehab somewhere far away from this toxic environment. Sadly if you believe the stories about Kris Jenner trying to get free treatment for Scott as a quid pro quo then it’s not going to happen any time soon.
This is an excellent assessment of his situation.
Yes! Well said.
Well said! This is exactly what happened to Rob. On the show, he was deeply resentful of his sisters fame especially Kim and I think he let all that anger mess with his head. It’s hard for me to feel bad for him because he has been given more than 99% of people on the planet without earning it and he was so unappreciative. That being said depression is a horrendous and I hope he takes all the professional help at his disposal and hopefully will get better.
Yeah this pretty much covers it all, throw in some depression and you’ve got yourself Rob’s biography.
This pretty much sums it up, in my opinion.
I remember in an episode Rob being upset that endorsement deals were being done, but only for his sisters and not him. He wanted to be a part of the brand but they weren’t allowing him to be. He could have been a “silent partner” and still made as much money as they did, but they shut him out. It’s all about greed. I don’t blame him for being upset about it. It seems most of Rob’s hate is towards Kim. She’s probably the one that didn’t want Rob in on the deals.
Well said!
I remember when Kim went through a depression years ago and Kris told her to snap out of it- went to Kim’s house and pulled her out of bed. Rob may need to figure out how to help himself. Not that I’m unsympathetic, but he must be willing to seek help.
Kim wasn’t really depressed. That was all fake for the show. No one “gets over depression” like that.
I guess I didn’t think of that -being all for the show. That makes sense.
That was situationla, due to her breakup with Reggie. That was categorically NOT clinical depression.
I forgot it was after her breakup with Reggie. I would agree it was not clinical depression.
As a mother of an adult son, who suffers severe depression and anxiety, I don’t understand how Kris cannot be doing everything in her power to get Rob help. I don’t have any of the resources, that Kris has, but I researched everything I could, made tons of phone calls, and charged up every credit card I owned, trying to help my son. They have money, access to the best proffesionals…if this is just a storyline for the show, ok, but, if this is true depression, Rob needs help! On the other hand, he may have gotten help, and is on medication, because my son’s Dr. told us that a side effect of many depression meds and aniti-anxiety pills is severe weight gain. And if that is the case, Kim really needs to keep her, uneducated, unsympathetic, disgusting mouth shut, because reminding Rob that he is “FAT” is just going to make things worse for him…
I think in some ways Kris has an emotional distance between herself and all the kids except maybe for Kim. Kim does whatever she says and has exposed herself to bring in money for Kris. A true loving mother wouldn’t expose and sacrifice her children the way Kris has, there’s a wall that has to be there for you to consider your child more a piece of meat than your baby.
I think too some parents don’t want to or don’t know how to immerse themselves in the literature, maybe they’re scared. I really respect your efforts and I wish the best for your son.
I think Kris and Kim are sh*t disturbers in the family. I bet they gossip about everyone else and scheme and lie just to cause problems in the family. I have family members like that (or should I say ex-family members. I cut that toxic crap out of my life).
Exactly! Any mother would do everything in her power and go above and beyond if they felt their child was hurting that deeply.
This fits right in with a Blind Gossip item from a couple of days ago. It talks about how the family feeds stories about him to the media about his laziness and how he is an embarrassment to the family. When he lashes out, they turn up the viciousness a notch or two. He is convinced they have already planned out a storyline for their show if his depression spirals out of control and he kills himself. He believes they would rather see him dead than spill their ugly truths, which is so twisted it’s beyond belief. PMK knows no bounds.
The irony and insanity of them being embarrassed by anything is laughable. They have built an empire on having no shame and no filter. With their lives constantly on display I can’t imagine what he could have on them that isn’t public, but I bet it would make for a juicy read! I say he should come out with all of it, totally throw them under the bus, get himself some distance and some really good help, and then sit back and laugh his ass off as the house of cards comes tumbling down.
Wow. That storyline for his death part is so sad…and probably true. It truly is unfortunate for all the children they were born into such a poisonous ugly family.
Poison beyond belief – beyond help? People are so dependent on their “tribe”.
Did anyone see that pic of Kim were they photoshopped that paper cover pic to make her look fat? i think that’s how Kim would look like if she didn’t have money lol. Daily Mail has the pic if anyone is interested.
Saw it! Loved it! lol
Can you post a link? I can’t find it.
She is one to talk, does she not have a chauffeur, chef,trainer, nanny etc….she’s not even raising her own kid, depression is a serious illness, Kim, as much as I dislike you, never would I wish depression on you or anyone, it is a painful, lonely and overwhelming illness. The ignorance that still exists is sad, but for his own sister is deplorable. She lives an opulent life and has the nerve to put him down. True colors shining on through.
Nobody does anything for Kim, right? She does everything on her own. What a mean sister! I hope Rob gets better
Kanye gave Kim the life she always wanted. The famous friends, the front row seats at Paris Fashion Week, the Vogue cover. She couldn’t get any of that on her own. Kanye bought her that dream home and the fancy cars she gets rode around in. Who is she kidding? She is a hypocrite and a very unlikeable person. Rob needs to write a tell-all book. If the Kardashians ever do start to fade away, I bet Kris would gladly allow Rob to write a book. It would get them a lot of attention.
What would happen if a member of this clan walked away? Went to college in the Midwest, pursued a fulfilling career, married for love? Would they do all they could to drag that refugee back into their den of horrors?
Only if it was Kim or Kendall.
Rob does seem depressed. No wonder he doesn’t want to move out and about. It was the same for me in school. Didn’t want to talk or see anyone. But at such times, such people need empathy and a friend to come out of this. Its a mental disorder. He just needs someone believing in him.
Anyone being negative ( I’m looking at KIM) can affect him and make him feel like its not worth it and that he’s worthless. Kim’s indifference seems to hurt him too.
He needs purpose (other than making money and becoming famous) and positivity . He doesn’t have to be in competition with his sisters. His focus should be happiness. Happiness does not always mean everybody will be calling out your name and wanting to become your friend or having more money than you know what to do with. He should see his other half brother, Brandon I believe, for reference. Hang around with him Rob.
Hopefully with time he’ll realise that and get better for himself. Sending him light and love.
I felt the love and light too, Ameoba.
what a disgusting comment to make. the term is “kiss” the ass, not “lick”. So gross.
@jenna well what do you expect from a porn star lol
well, well, well, if this is not the pot calling the kettle black, you sound like that crazy ass husband of yours, and you the queen of sluts that made your money by making videos of someone pissing on you, and you think you have a right to put someone down because theyare depressed, girl, you keep this up and God is going to put you and your husband in your place !i feel sorry that he has to be born in a family like you and your mom,you are so controlled by that nut case you are married to and it ok for him to go around and rant and rage and you get off from that but someone who can;t help he is in a funk you have to tell the world about it, girl i feel so sorry for you, your day will so come and then i can set back and laugh, how much did you hate when you were FAT from carrying a child, something so beautiful that God gave you and all you did was cry because you were fat, kim , why don’t you worry about the nut you are married to butt the hell out of Rob’s life and stay in your fantasy life and go spend money and try to keep up with jay-z and bev;s life. i feel so sorry for you i just can’t express it,leave him the hell alone and just crawl up kanya’s ass and you keep on taking pics of your nude cottage cheese ass
I think he is a drug addict has been in rehab and talking about depression is to throw everybody off that.
He puts up the gone girl pic and there are pics of him driving a couple days later and then he tweets about Scott. He is out now.
I’m just struck by the meanness in what she says. Use a car and driver so “nobody has to look at you”? Wow.
It’s also shocking to see the look on Kris’s face when Kim said that.
Yes! What an absolutely hateful comment. And it shows just who she really is.
Whatever Rob’s fault are (I don’t follow him/them much, so I don’t really know), they need to be put aside when he’s in serious danger, which he seems to be. If this was your family, and this is how they viewed you, would you want to ask them, of all people, for help?
Kim is talking about him the way you’d talk about dealing with an abuser – have to cut them off as a united front. It says a lot that the only things they’ve thought of to do for him chauffers, trainers, etc., i.e., throw money at it. Howz about some genuine compassionate support and suggesting/providing what he probably really needs – – a good therapist, possibly some medication, possibly rehab. He may not take it, but at least they’d be trying in a constructive way.
Kris sitting there going, “I don’t know, I’m not a therapist,” but not, y’know, thinking of, CALLING ONE, says to me that this convo is not really about real concern for Rob, or true solution-seeking, it’s just blather for the cameras. As his mother, if she had an ounce of sense (or a soul), she’d be looking at Rob’s condition, looking at all the suicides out there, and moving mountains to get him real help. Instead, she sits there throwing out passive BS and spends her energy pimping out the money-maker children.
It’s gross to put it in these terms, but I think Kris has lost her PR mojo on this particular “storyline.” If, God forbid, something happens to Rob, it’s going to backfire bigtime on her “business” – just like the 72 day marriage. I would think, if nothing else, she would get the “bad business” aspect of this.
I remember an episode where they all went to family counselling and Rob cried because she said he hates how Kim treats him. She is always calling him a loser. Kim needs to realize that she is no winner herself. She didn’t become rich and famous because of good old hard work. She did dirty things to get ahead and now wants to walk around with her nose in the air as if she is so pure and righteous. Someone needs to remind her how she got started. I think Rob’s dad was the only one who had faith in him. Before Kim got “famous” Rob was the star of the family. He was the one doing really well in school and had the most promising future. Kim was nothing but a 23 year old divorced has been latching on to Paris Hilton.
Preach it!
I don’t want to post this as a reply to any particular comment above, but I want to post it because some of the above comments dishearten me. I have several people with mental health and chronic lifestyle-related health issues in my extended family, and I cannot imagine cutting them off with ‘tough love’ because at some point ‘you just have to draw boundaries withe master manipulators’. They are my family, and families stick together and fight for each other, and I do it because I know that if I was at my absolute lowest without any stability and ‘conscious’ control over my life and my state of affairs, I REALLY hope that somebody who loves me and is close to me would help me no matter what. How can you be in close contact with people who suffer from things like depression and other mental health issues like borderline personality disorder, and not realise that their brains are wired completely different to someone who doesn’t suffer from those conditions (even depression has been found to change the ‘wiring’ of the brain)? Even the way they rationalise things (like going off their medication, or in Rob’s case, not ‘pulling himself up by the bootstraps’ and using those endless Kardashian resources to get better) is affected by that, and if we look at their actions with only our healthy perspectives, how can we possibly understand and empathise with them?
To me, this is how Kim is looking at this situation and her opinion, her words come across as disgustingly selfish, and seem to come from a place of self-concern, rather than actual concern for her brother… She is disgusted by her fat brother, and that disgust is literally dripping from every word she throws out about him, not concerned about his mental or emotional health but concerned with his appearance. I understand if people have problematic relationships with family members from the outset, of course the sheer burden that comes with this can be too much and undeserved I suppose, but with the Kardashians, this whole attitude completely destroys the whole “family is everything” theme that runs through their show. Unless there is some sort of major incident that we have never heard of, Kim and her brother have seemed to have had an entirely healthy and “strong” relationship up until the point where he had a few failures on his hands, and gained a lot of weight.
Also, I should’ve cooled down and read the rest of the comments, because almost all of you ladies seem to be on the same page as me.
According to Kim’s second grade logic God must have thought Rob was just too damn hot for him to have gained all this weight.
Smh, and this is why I will never have sympathy for or defend a member of this family regardless of the circumstances. Bruce included. They are vicious animals who would metaphorically eat their young if it benefited them. Good luck to North, her life’s gonna be tough.
What a choice of words, Kim, you are a nasty degenerate!
I always found it strange that Rob felt so left out in that family being the only boy. One would imagine that both parents would have fawned all over him given that he’s the only son. I could see all of the sisters being resentful of that.
I feel sorry for him. He has had bad luck with male figures in his life.
His father passed away. Then he got very close with Lamar and he turned out to be a hardcore drug addict. His other brother in law has addiction problems too and now his step dad is transitioning to a female.
He has a mother who only seems to care about helping her daughters succeed because she is able to cash in on their sexuality.
Poor Rob.
Yeah Rob’s depression most likely started when he lost his father. If his father was still alive, Rob would be a completely different person because his dad would have his back. All his mom cares about is Kim and making money and being famous. If your son was in a deep depression which was causing horrible health issues, wouldn’t you be by his side instead of at a club with Justin Bieber acting like you’re 20?
The Krass family is getting what they want: you talking about them (good or bad). I’ve tried to appeal to CB’s sensibilities by asking them to hit the mute button.
The more you discuss them, the less likely they go away.
I think that Rob is deeply depressed and It all started when he was living with Khloe and Lamar in that house of secrets. I’m sure he was turned into drugs by Lamar but imagine living with all those secrets he knew and was told to shut up about. He had to know that Lamar was cheating cuz Khloe knew. I think that’s when everything started to go downhill. If you look back at that season that’s when he started overeating and hiding food in his room. Kim has always lacked empathy so it’s no surprise. I hope he can get the help he needs and it needs to start with honesty, they need to think about what he must have struggled with having to put on a good face when he knew the lies going on. She even admitted that when she said “he’s tired” it meant Lmar was in drugs and out cheating and crap!
Money and fame mean everything to his family but where does love fit in? Those pictures of Angelina and her daughters celebrating at the Kids Choice awards warmed all our hearts. You can tell there is so much love shared between them. Yesterday, I was reading about the passing of Cynthia Lennon and how close she was to her son Julian. He even posted a tribute to his mother on You Tube.
I feel sorry for Rob, maybe he is looking for something real and genuine that isn’t scripted and/or for profit or public consumption. It doesn’t seem as if he will find it with the Kardashians.
I wonder if he has any aunts/uncles/cousins on his father’s side who he can find family in. I hope so. The whole thing is sad.
(It just dawned on me that Robert Sr. probably DOES have family members. Can you imagine trying to be a normal person but you’re stuck with the Kardashian last name? Yikes!)
Rob’s grandfather (his dad’s dad) is still alive. He lives in a retirement home. I hope they visit him often.
Kim is truly an awful person and is demonstrating it more and more clearly every time she opens her mouth today. And consider that she has approved everything that gets into the show, meaning that she’s proud of what she says and believes everyone out there in the audience will be awestruck by her wisdom in this scene as well as in every other scene where she spits out her venom about one family member or another.
Kim does not love her brother. She is most likely incapable of loving anyone but herself. She has repeatedly demonstrated this on that stupid show. She is angry that Rob is “fat”, doesn’t want to look at him or be photographed with him, and simply doesn’t want him around. This was the motivation for her awful behavior toward him before her wedding, when he quite rightly decided to just leave before the ceremony. Hopefully Rob realizes she is simply a toxic person and he should just stay away from her, letting her drown in her own poison.
It’s understandable that people struggle to figure out what to do about a family member dealing with Rob’s problems. But that’s not what is happening here. They are choosing to use his difficulties as a plotline and Kim is very deliberately choosing to say such things about him in public. She did not say such things in the heat of the moment. She rehearsed it and kept it in after editing.
Starting with Robert Sr. and Kris, this will never be an honorable family.
That’s not fair. Robert Sr was just doing his job. He later showed guilt for defending OJ. You can’t blame a criminal defense attorney for doing their job – it’s essential to the US legal system. Even a slimeball like OJ is entitled to a fair trial with a competent defense team.
We’re on the same page about Kris, though.
I knew she didn’t have class or intelligence, now I know she lacks a soul too.
You’re an awful person Kim. A person with depression needs help and support and maybe with that he would slowly improve and get to leave the house more and more often every time. But how could you understand you dumb soulless plastic whore. All you care about is having your hair&makeup done and get clothes and make the most money out of everuthing.
Poor Nori, imagine she goes through somethimg hard that makes her anxious or depressed and when she asks her mom for help it is this woman… I hope she gets to keep the nanny in her teens.
Kim is a pompous ass–a very large pompous (and injectedly fat-added) ass.
Prayers for you, Rob. Hoping you find the support you need from friends–cut out the despicable and disgusting family you are in and be with someone who will support you emotionally.
I used to watch way back when, and there were always scenes of Rob crying about their dad or about a girl who had dumped him. I’m not mocking that, but… I think the other members of the family are kind of callous, whereas Rob seems to really FEEL things. I don’t think being that sensitive and emotional lends itself well to being in a reality family. Poor guy.
This! I think rob is a Pisces, so ALL the feelings. I too remember him getting emotional, and rightly so.
Ming, I was just thinking that while reading Katija’s post. If he isn’t, he probably has heavy Pisces in his chart.
What’s pathetic is how she and her family keep exploting his problems for ratings and talking shit about him rather than actually having some compassion and trying to help him.
I have a brother who all of us siblings have ALWAYS thought gets special treatment (he’s not depressed or anything, just the can-do-no-wrong kid). I’ve b!tched about it to my mom, but let me tell you something: “Everyone licks his a**” would not be my word choice in discussing my BROTHER while talking to my MOTHER about her SON. Ew.
But to me it seems like Kim is the one who is favored in that family. They all have to kiss up to her it seems. Kim just can’t stand it when anyone other than her gets any attention.
This family is the lowest of the low. And how dare RantYe’s future ex-wife to call anyone out when she has so many, hundreds really; problems of her own.
What do you mean? Kim’s perfect. Yeezus says so.
The show is so boring. Kim is so horrible yet we are supposed to feel so sorry that she can’t have a baby. Remember how you felt when even though you were pregnant people called you fat? Yeah x100 is how Rob feels.
Worse thing to say to someone depressed or an addict. “Just quit”
I can’t stomach them anymore. How can they possibly be happy? Money?
I wouldn’t feel bad if it’s true she can’t have another baby, I would be thanking God lol
He should have enough money – and they definitely do – to have a qualified psychotherapist come to his home for weekly sessions. He might just not want to get well because he’s getting attention, however negative it is.
Her comment about her brother is revolting.
No matter how much money you have, how entitled your are, how much you are spoiled, if you suffer from depression, YOU CANNOT JUST SNAP OUT OF IT.
Depression is NOT being sad, it is NOT feeling down, it is NOT thinking you had a bad day.
You feel worthless, everything in your life no matter how wonderful is now awful. Your whole being is filled with black gooey sludge that infects everything you do. Life has no point anymore.
Meds and Therapy is what Rob needs.
He has an emotionally abusive family – sibling and mom. I feel for him. I don’t care AT ALL how much money he was given. It makes NO DIFFERENCE. Depression has no boundaries. It can strike a king and a peasant.
I can’t stand Kim but I actually think she has a point. I have depression and so does my brother, but while I can force myself to get out and live my life, my parents are enabling my brother not getting help by buying him food, clothes, etc, so he never has to leave the house. If you refuse to do those kinds of things, the person may be forced to seek help when they realize they can’t function on their own,
I don’t get all the Rob sympathy…he has been a horrible person and is definitely a misogynist!!!!! If anything, him begin temporarily depressed might mean he is actually looking at himself critically for the first time. Yeah, if you realize what a ‘waste of skin’ you’ve been then you should be depressed. After he’s done wallowing in his self pity, he can move on to try and actually become a good person worthy of our sympathy.
He was born into incredible privilege and he has never tried to help anyone but himself. Do you think he would care about you if you were in a slump???? No! So stop giving so much empathy to someone whoe doesn’t deserve it at all. Aw poor rich narcissistic misogynist is sad because his sisters are more famous than him and he doesn’t want to demean himself by working a real job like us peasants. Cry me a river.
Money doesn’t spare you from depression. Wealthy people commit suicide. Rob didn’t ask to be born into a rich dysfunctional family. All the “privileges” in the world won’t keep the darkness away. Look at his poor little rich girl of a niece, Nori. That child is not benefitting from the wealth of her parents, except at least they hired normal people to take care of her so she isn’t entirely at the mercy of the Ice Queen and her manic consort. But those nannies can be fired any time. Nori has a life I would never wish on any child.
His problems are trifold- #1 is Rob growing up surrounded by a money/fame/ body obsessed family. #2 is his rebellion against their shallow qualifications for approval,i.e., yeah, I’m real fat, assholes! and whats up with being the only sibling without a name that starts without a “K”?..#3 is the unfortunate perpetuation of gaining weight and direct correlation of depression. You feel bad about yourself, therefore you eat more, leading to deeper depression leading to more eating. It sucks and I feel for him.
My guess is Rob is addicted to pills, which will make you depressed.
If I were born into that family, I would be depressed too.
You know I always thought that Kim was vapid and vain but basically harmless but after watching the clip I think she’s a real piece of work who doesn’t seem to have a single empathetic bone in her body. I hope Rob gets help and gets better, somewhere far away from his toxic family.
If she truly said those things about him, she is a nasty human being and a terrible, terrible sister.
He may be spoiled but Kim treats him horribly. He is probably embarrassing because he’s chubby. Vanity runs thru all their veins instead of blood!
I’m not ashamed to say that I watch the show. The situation with Rob has been nothing short of heartbreaking. I have always thought he was a disrespectful jerk and have never liked him, but seeing someone in genuine pain and mental anguish is hard. I get the impression that the Kardashians bend over backwards for Robert, more than anyone realises. I think Kim has been invested in his well being and I think her comments are coming from a point of pure frustration and yes, a lack of genuine understanding. On multiple occasions, they’ve all tried to help Rob and he refuses to help himself. Obviously there are some real issues at work, he can’t help himself. It’s such a hard situation. From Kim’s comments it sounds like the family is seriously enabling his toxic environment and his illness. I actually agree with her to an extent. They’re not doing Rob any favours by doing everything for him. Boundaries are important with people in crisis and as bad as I feel for Rob, I feel bad for all of them. Mental illness is not easy to deal with and there are no easy answers. It affects everyone.
I’ve suffered from depression since my early teens. It took me until my early twenties until I got professional help which saved my life. I am nearing 40 now and have learned to live with my disease. But the attitude and ignorance I encounter from people who have no clue what depression is, is intolerable.
Kim K’s attitude and ignorance towards her brother’s disease (if he is indeed truly suffering from depression) makes me so angry. It is absolutely the wrong approach to take regarding someone suffering from clinical depression to tell them to pull themselves together etc. The person that is suffering from the illness is incapable of helping themselves and such ignorant, cruel comments will only cause more guilt and shame to the ill person, emotions that are already crippling someone with depression and it may even cause them to end their life. The emotional pain someone depressed suffers is impossible to understand from the outside, and I hope Kim K shuts the f up before she causes irrevocable damage to her sibling.