Star Magazine has a VERY interesting story in this week’s issue. The story is partially a summary of the Jeremy Renner situation, about how he and Sonni Pacheco have finally worked out the terms off their divorce (after only being married for 11 months). So, what’s interesting? Star heavily excerpted from the court declaration of Kristoffer Winters, Jeremy Renner’s “business partner” in the house-flipping business. We’ve already heard some of this, but Star has more info from the declaration. Renner has described Winters as “like a brother” and they’ve been close for 20 years. Star also refers to Winters as an “actor and interior designer.” Cough. Here’s some of what Winters had to say in the declaration:
“Sonni told me that she did not believe in marriage and only wanted Jeremy to marry her to that she could become a United States citizen.” Winters saw Sonni watching videos of her ex-boyfriend, whom she called “the love of her life.”
Winters also said he witnessed Sonni making two separate appointments to have an abortion [while she was pregnant]. “I believe she ultimately changed her mind both because the baby would be considered a US citizen and because a marriage to Jeremy would improve her financial situation.”
According to Winters, Sonni’s pregnant and early motherhood were anything but healthy. “Through her pregnancy, I saw Sonni regularly smoke cigarettes and drink alcohol. During the time she was breastfeeding, I saw Sonni drinking about a bottle of wine per day.” Winters says Sonni rarely got up in the mornings with Ava and Sonni took at least two solo trips to Canada for “alone” time. “Upon her return from one of these trips, she told me that she spent only an hour with her family and spent the rest of the time partying and doing cocaine with friends.”
[From Star Magazine, print edition]
A bottle of wine a day while breastfeeding…? Whoa.
Star also has an unnamed source claiming to know what was on those “intimate videos” that Sonni threatened to release to TMZ, lest Renner not pay her off. The source says “Jeremy sometimes wears makeup when he is not in front of the camera, and it was talked about that he sometimes likes to wear feminine clothes.” Er… that’s it? We already knew about Renner’s penchant for guyliner (and he seems to wear foundation sometimes too, but who doesn’t?). As for the rest of it… eh. As everyone has said, both Renner and Pacheco seem like kind of awful people these days.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
As if you’d take anything either of these people take seriously. At all.
I bet he also leaves the toilet seat up and leaves the cap off the toothpaste. How shocking!!!
The bottle of wine a day does shock me
@NewWester …
I can’t believe people don’t think Kristoffer Winters is embellishing things to paint Sonni in a bad light so she won’t get full custody. And how does this guy know all of this if he is living in the ‘Guest House’ and not in the ‘Main’ house with Sonni and Renner?? How would he know Sonni drank a “bottle of wine” every day while breastfeeding??
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Yep … they’ve been ‘best friends’ for 20-years.
Wouldn’t this all be considered hearsay?
@AZurea, there is an “admission against own interest” exception to the hearsay rule
Hearsay is accepted in family court affidavits.
Yes and it causes a lot of damage. I can’t believe people, especially celebrities who know this will hit the media, still trash talk their exes so viciously in these proceedings knowing that the kids *could* someday get access. And if they’re saying these things to the court I’ve often found they’re managing to say worse things to or near the kids. So troubling.
Hearsay is when you repeat something someone else said. An admission against interest is when someone admits to doing something unlawful, which is an exception to the hearsay rule. He is giving evidence of what he actually saw. That is not hearsay. That is eye witness testimony. Whether or not his testimony would be accepted by a court would depend on whether they found him a reliable witness and how reliable they found her as a witness in her own defence.
Kebby, Your post explains many questions. Thanks for sharing.
Who got custody of the fluffy white doggy thing with the pink bow?
And where are the Cheez-its?
#cheezitsneverforget
#whowillthinkofthecheezits
I honestly don’t feel that sorry for him. The first time I saw pictures of them together homegirl was posing and flipping her hair at the cameras; if he couldn’t see the fame hungry in her…he’s hopeless.
True and they seem to hate each other IMO.
I know there’s a thing line btw love & hate, but these two have been married for a nanosecond yet there’s all this vitriol and dirt. Damn!
Well – this might be because theirs was a marriage of convenience gone wrong. He offered certain rewards and conditions, she accepted, but then she decided it wasn’t enough. So now their split is vitriolic and dirty, and even though it is supposedly “settled,” I’ll bet we’ll hear more from Ms Pacheco, even if she is bound by an iron-clad non-disclosure agreement.
We already knew he was gay. Nothing groundbreaking.
I didn’t read anything to indicate she, Sonni, said he was gay?
What does being gay, or not, have to do with her accusations he sometimes wears make up?
My questions stem from your “already knew” comment.
@Original Kay …
It has to do with ‘Fraud’ as her grounds for divorce. That was what came out first, that Sonni was seeking a divorce on the basis of Fraud on Renner’s part.
@Emma
She claimed fraud on the pre-nup, not the marriage. Fraud on the pre-nup is routinely used as a place holder allowing the petitioner to claim financial irregularities. Since she has got relatively little out of the child support I suspect she was claiming that he hid some of his assets or manipulated his income. Yes 13K a month is not a lot in Hollywood!
Oh no! An ex make-up artist who works in the entertainment industry wears make-up sometimes! WHITHER THE FAINTING COUCH
I’ve never especially got the love for Renner, but the thought of him in black lace panties is changing my mind. Rowr.
HAHAHAHAHAH
“Whither the fainting couch” needs to be worked into the vernacular. Hilarious!
YAAASS Embertine, YAAASS?!!! I kinda Eyerolled super hard cause if “cross dressing” or possibly being Gay is the worst she has to peddle about him… In Hollywood.. sis please
They don’t even specifically say “cross-dressing,” though. Just that he wears “feminine clothes.” Let’s assume this is true, what exactly counts as “feminine clothes?” If she meant cross-dressing, why not just say that, since it’s a specific activity and everyone would get it? My brother has a shoe collection in the hundreds. Is that feminine? Having a lot of shoes, and matching them to your clothes for the day? He likes pink, too, and has many pink shirts and ties and accessories. What are talking about here, exactly? I just have the sneaking suspicion that “feminine clothes” is some sexist BS suggesting that men shouldn’t be fashion-conscious or clothes horses.
@QQ …
Again, Sonni is seeking a divorce on the basis of ‘Fraud.’ Perhaps he told her he was ‘Bi’ but liked women more and she found out the relationship/marriage came with a live-in ‘Best Friend?’
@ Emma
She was trying to have the pre-nup thrown out on grounds of fraud, which means hiding assets and lying about money, not sexuality. She filed for divorce on “irreconcilable differences.”
He did dress up as a white fluffy unicorn when he took his daughter out on Halloween, that could be described as feminine. He wasn’t ashamed of that though since he posted it on whosay.
He dressed as a white fluffy unicorn to take his baby daughter out trick-or-treating? Jesus Renner, what with this and the black panties, are you TRYING to make me fall in love with you?!
Perhaps he’s an executive transvestite like Eddie Izzard?
Nothing wrong with that?
Love Izzard by the way . Seen him in concert twice.
There’s a lot more to the story if he’s squealing so much about it. Great PR move, though, to thoroughly eviscerate her credibility before she leaks anything.
Agreed.
The man wears guyliner on the red carpet. If he can unashamedly wear it infront of us judgy celeb!tches, is it really that shocking that he wears it elsewhere? She’s reaching…..
This would be like Jennifer expressing shock that her JustKen Doll dresses the way he does on and off the RC.
Yes, I’m shocked a man who knows how to blend wears makeup. Shocked, I say. If that’s all she had on him, no wonder she got nothing more than what she was due from the prenuptial.
Thank you for setting @Emma straight. It is not uncommon to have room mates in mid or late age to make ends meet.
I think the cross dressing part is the blackmail issue rather than the guy liner bit.
So you guys are going to latch onto the makeup part and forget the ‘… while wearing feminine clothes’ part of the statement?
Emma: to me, guyliner isn’t that different from ‘feminine clothes’. I would not be shocked AT ALL if a man who publicly wore guyliner turned out to also wear women’s clothing eg David Beckham and Eddie Izzard have worn make up, guyliner, women’s clothes at some point or another, heck the artist Grayson Perry is in full drag in public and yet has a wife.
To me, make up and women’s clothes isn’t automatically a comment on their sexuality. It might be too metrosexual for my personal tastes, but this Renner accuser needs to try harder for me to take her seriously.
Nor does the fact he lives with his best friend make him gay. If that’s the case, a lot of my girlfriends are in the closet, because most of them share a place with their besties. There’s a whole lot of assuming and stereotyping going on that makes me uncomfortable. For an enlightened society, we certainly aren’t about Jeremy and Kristoff.
@The Original Mia …
If most of your girlfriends have shared a place with their ‘Besties’ for 20-years I think it’s time for you to do an intervention.
@ Emma
What am I’m doing an intervention for? Being broke or down on your luck? Having the sense to combine households and save money while in school or pursing a career? Maybe having survived a bad marriage and needing her best friend to support her? Maybe being single and having cancer and needing her best friend to care for her and her children while she goes to chemo? Which scenario needs an intervention and what for? And I never said any of these people lived together for 20 years and if they did, so what?
Up until Renner hit it big, their primary source of income was from renovating and flipping houses. They lived in the houses as they renovated them. For one thing, it gives a massive tax break. And they are both actors as well and would most likely travel – that way at least someone was there to continue working.
Guyliner and full pancake makeup. But he’s not alone in that among men in Hollywood, so what the hell is the problem?
Why would she tell a guy that is like “brother” to Renner that she was only marrying his “brother” because she wanted to a US citizen and that she was still hung up on her ex? Why didn’t he tell his “brother” all of this before he married her?
Also, what actor doesn’t wear make-up? That’s like being shocked that male ballet dancers wear tights.
Yeah, it’s disgusting the way this “roommate” is clearly trying to smear Sonni’s name in court. They’re just pissed because their surrogate went off-script. What did they expect? Non-shady people wouldn’t agree to hide the fact their carrying a baby for a couple and wouldn’t agree to act as a beard!
I would have more respect for Jeremy and his “roommate” if they stop with the lies. It’s insulting and unhealthy for the kid to be raised in such an environment of secrecy.
Bingo. Big fail on Jeremy’s “roommate’s” part. It makes him look like crap to be like “I knew all these things, but did nothing about it!”
Wondering the same. If she is telling his “brother” of twenty years doesn’t that suggest that this was always an arrangement and that Renner knew it? Also, why is the substance abuse an issue now and not when Ava was an infant and super vulnerable. What sane “uncle” let’s an alcoholic coke user handle an infant without intervention?
Agree. Why would we believe anything his “roomate” says about her at this point.
Well, the court ruling on custody seems to back the notion that she isn’t a great parent. She didn’t get increased custody (even though there are perfectly acceptable grounds for that because of how much he travels for work), the judge didn’t see fit to award her any spousal support, and she got court-ordered parenting classes to boot, but none for Renner. They both had really good lawyers, so it’s not like he outclassed her in that area, which to me says that the judge looked at both sides and decided Renner’s side was less bad, at the least.
:”why is the substance abuse an issue now and not when Ava was an infant and super vulnerable.”
To play devil’s advocate, let’s assume for one moment we don’t actually know Jeremy Renner’s personal life. Another way to read his BFF living in the guest house is that he *was* concerned and he installed someone he trusts in his home to keep an eye on the baby while he was out of the country for most of last year.
@Algenon: Apparently this guy was living in the house before Renner met this woman, so he wasn’t there to keep an eye on her.
@Jinni
From 2002 they lived together in houses they bought, did up, sold and moved on. Although from somewhere between 2005 to 2007 and 2010 Renner was living with a girlfriend, Jess MaCallan, too. They bought this house to refurbish in 2010, just as Renner’s career took off and he started making big money, before that most of his money came from the houses they developed. Between 2010 and 2012 Renner was working away from home 90% of the time. According to an interview he moved out when he returned in the Spring of 2012 and bought his own forever home which needed a huge amount of renovation. Sonni got pregnant in the summer and they moved back into the house he owned with Winters and Winters moved into the guest house. Winters says he moved out into his own home at some point, but I am not sure when. The house then went up for sale when Sonni moved out and I assume Renner is now in his own house. To me that looks like Renner and Winters were living together again because of the baby.
@ jinni
Renner has talked often of living with him, he’s never hidden it. Most people interpret this as a secret gay romance, I don’t. Winters full comments made it sound like he was living there while Renner was away last year and that by the time he was signing court statements, he had moved out again. We’ll never really know the truth, which is why I offered a second interpretation of his presence in the guest house.
Perhaps all along this was the reason why Winters moved into the guest house, to keep an eye on Sonni and try to keep her off the drugs? Renner was working away for a lot of that time so there must have been a limit to what he could do. He must have known what she was before he married her, but maybe that was the deal – we get married, you get to live comfortably in LA, I get to share custody, you get some money in a prenup but no spousal support.
The guys in my old church choir wore makeup. If that’s all she’s got there’s nothing to see here.
Hahahahaaaa! Who cares??? Makeup and feminine clothes … have they been outside lately?
Isn’t drinking that much while nursing really dangerous? Why do some people bother to have children?
Some people shouldn’t have children but in her case having a child pays handsomely.
If that’s even true, GNAT.
It depends. Is she drinking it all in one sitting or is she having a glass or two with lunch, a glass or two with dinner, and then killing the bottle after the kid goes down? It’s probably not particularly good for her, though.
And this is the claim that would be the easiest to back up, as there would be empties in the recycle bins and support staff to corroborate.
It doesn’t matter when she drinks alcohol (and wine does have sufficient alcohol), it’s that she drinks it AT ALL during pregnancy. The risk of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is too great for a woman to drink ANY alcohol during her pregnancy.
And don’t get me started on the alleged smoking. This more than anything suggests that to Pacheco the child was little more than collateral and a bargaining chip to renegotiate for more money down the road. No mother who truly wants to protect her child and make sure it’s healthy drinks and smokes during pregnancy.
I actually had to Google her. They both sound awful!! So he is closeted with his “friend,” and she is a lingerie model, not working, only 23, and brought a baby into the middle of her scheme to get US citizenship? And she says their marriage was based on fraud? They can drink and fight all they want… But not when a baby is in the picture! Ugh ugh ugh.
she is 27
And I’m sorry, I find the fact she was alleged to drink and smoke while pregnant and breastfeeding worse than Jeremy owning guns.
I haven’t heard about the gun thing, but if just owning guns is some sort of problem for child custody, my husband and I better never get divorced, because we both own guns. Heck, my husband builds old school guns. It is a hobby of his.
I suppose if he leaves them lying around loaded everywhere, that might be a problem, but as long as they are legal and locked up, I can’t imagine why it would even be an issue. The drinking while breastfeeding (if it is true) is 10 times worse than that.
Who knows what to believe though, in cases like this. It is even harder since we don’t actually know any of these people for real, but it seems like he got what he wanted in court, so that has to mean he had some evidence on his side.
Let’s be real they are all lying. Funny how this “business partner” just happens to have all this dirt. Sorry but if I spent most of my vacation snorting various illegal drugs and drinking enough to help a liquor store stay in buisness Im not going to run back to my husbands business partner / roommate / God knows what else- and brag about it. The best way to discredit a women in the public eye is attack what kind of mom she is. Both sides are trying to discredit each other.
I think this for me is the most worrying bit. What has her contemplating an abortion got to do with anything? Seriously!! besides of course villainising the mother for the pro-life crowd. It was her right to consider her options dbag. And once her decision is made its straight up evil to keep advertising it for your kid to hear.
Yes exactly.
I agree, I don’t like that WInter’s mentioned the abortion, it isn’t like they didn’t have enough without that and it is her right to choose.
Whatever Renner and his “roommate/business partner/friend” want to do in the privacy of their home is between them…the bitter is strong with the beard in this one..
True, she seems bitter, but I’ve heard from many people who have to deal with him that that Renner & boyfriend treated her very badly. Thats really unnecessary and stupid. If you’re going to hire a beard and baby maker, better to treat her really well.
I really had the love for JR. Now I am just an admirer of his acting (onscreen). God, just be yourself, Jeremy. If he had some guts, none of this would be happening. Guts and brains. Way to pick a winner to be your baby mama. They are all warts on a toad’s ass.
It is important to realize that the settlement they now have seems to be exactly what Jeremy was asking for at the start: 50:50 custody, 13K a month as awarded by the court and whatever was agreed in the prenup 10 months ago. She spent 3 months attacking him in an attempt to over turn the prenup and gain primary custody, which in all likelihood would have increased her child support to 26K a month. Renner only filed aggressively against his wife the week before it came to court at which point she backed down and they get to share custody, which to me suggests that he had evidence to support his claims but she didn’t. I have no doubt he didn’t want to publicly attack her and he certainly wouldn’t want details of his private life exposed, but I don’t think he had much choice. It is also worth noting that the court settlement, which seems to be be based primarily on his demands, include the involvement of a therapist to help develop a parenting plan and parenting classes for her. She seems to be an absolute mess and he was stupid to knock her up, but i just cannot believe he would have planned it. To me this whole marriage was damage control, an agreement Renner made so that she didn’t have an abortion or just disappear with the baby, unfortunately for him she didn’t seem to want to stick to her part in the agreement. I think she is very lucky he didn’t push for sole custody.
Shush, Jellybean! Logic isn’t as juicy as believing it was a bearding agreement gone wrong.
Seriously, the man got everything he wanted and she got what was set out in the prenup. If she had any dirt on him that would have jeopardized his career and exposed his supposed relationship with Kristoff, he would have caved and gave her what she demanded. She didn’t get anything more than what she originally agreed to, and she was repped by Laura Wasserman, who is no joke as a divorce attorney. If the leverage was there, Laura would have gotten a much more favorable deal for Sonni.
Too true! except Laura was his lawyer, her’s was something Kaplan. The head man at TMZ (live) made an interesting comment. He thought the whole divorce was “weird” and he said it reminded him of Britany Spears’ divorce from Kevin something. In both cases Laura represented the one with money and Kaplan represented the one wanting full custody and more money. Both got very nasty, then settled very quickly. I believe TMZ man is a former lawyer and is careful with his words, but I get the impression that the weird comment was aimed at the role of Kaplan. If you look at TMZ’s coverage of the Renner divorce they seem to be on Renner’s side, or at least don’t think his wife’s actions and comments make much sense. Perhaps TMZ man, from his legal background and insider knowledge, saw this as a simple shakedown which depended on Renner paying up to keep his private life private. I guess it still worked out for Kaplan since he gets paid regardless.
Oh! My bad. I knew her attorney was a major divorce attorney too. Yeah, I have to agree her stance was very aggressive from the get-go. It read like blackmail rather than divorce.
Just because she backed down doesn’t mean she’s guilty. We don’t know what was said to her behind closed doors not to mention Jeremy has money which gives power. I don’t think she’s the only mess in this equation. Easy to blame the woman but I can bet Jeremy is no angel himself. He wanted this stuff to get out that’s why the “friend” squealed. Jeremy and Sonni are most likely “pieces of work”
There was no need to wallow in the gutter, but that’s where Sonni decided to take this divorce. All of this could have been handled behind closed doors. But it wasn’t, which opened Sonni up to the same smear campaign she started. Did she think she could say any and everything about Jeremy and not have some blowback? Of course, Jeremy’s friend would comment on what he saw. He probably spent more time with her than Jeremy.
It’s also worth noting that fathers have much better odds with custody agreements if they’ve married the mother. According to Renner’s side, they weren’t involved when she found out she was pregnant. If he hadn’t married her, he would not have had much to stand on when it came time to make a custody arrangement.
She’s also not an American citizen. I would imagine that the marriage made that issue more straightforward for Renner.
Well I don’t think that make-up and women clothes makes him awful. If he’s into that.. good for him I guess.
The blackmail pics of Oscar delaHoya in drag did nothing to his reputation.
Makeup, whatever. It’s been years since pretty much all the male celebrities regularly wear makeup on the red carpet, and Jeremy Renner used to be pretty into the punk scene in LA, so there are probably all kinds of old photos laying around his house of him in various get ups. The “feminine clothing” thing is intriguing because it’s so vague. Is that actual cross-dressing, or is that like going full Bowie for a night out?
He has posted photos of himself on whosay dressed as a white fluffy unicorn and a new romantic. Both were fancy dress of course. Seriously, how many men do you know who haven’t dressed up as a woman at some point? I did a survey of this once at work, out of about 30 graduate males only two said they had never left the house dressed as a woman. Of course, like Jeremy, I was a teenager in the 1980s so our taste in clothes was compromised at an early age.
It’s just bugging me because people have said I’m “butch” because I don’t like wearing dresses and skirts, and that’s really sexist. The “feminine clothes” thing strikes me as the same thing. He likes clothes/fashion, he’s “feminine”, that’s *bad*.
Even if he is cross-dressing at home, that doesn’t mean he is also a bad parent. It’s a shaming statement any way you slice it.
I agree about the clothes and the definition of masculine and feminine. Teachers work really hard these days to tackle stereotyping among the young and then you get these sniggering immature comments online. The stuff about Renner being a make-up artist wasn’t some dirty little secret, he brought it up in an interview before the gay rumors started because he was proud to be different, “a straight make-up artist”. Whatever these sources definition of ‘feminine’ clothes, why should it be a subject for blackmail? Threatening to release private images to the media is a dirty, dirty trick regardless of what they contain.
Everytime I see Jeremy Renner I can’t help but think of a gnome!
Jeremy Renner is a makeup artist in real life!
Really, he said he used to work at department store makeup counters, applying makeup and giving women makeovers etc. earlier in his career when he still could not support himself solely by acting.
And all male actors wear makeup on the red carpet. They almost all do and manage to look better than how they actually do in real life. They employ good makeup people so that it looks pretty untraceable on most, unless you are Travolta. I bet Jeremy beats his own face.
I’m so flipping confused. Once source says the roommate is Kristoffer, another says it’s Griffin. Blah, whatever. She called his bluff so he called hers and won. Kristoffer has been pretty much adopted by the entire Renner clan as a family member, I don’t find it hard to believe that they have been friends for years and K is super close to the R family. And JR has never pinged my gaydar, ever. I just think he likes clothes and make-up (but stay away from the shiny suits dude) and is comfortable being off-beat. It doesn’t mean your gay, it means you’re comfortable in your own skin. Also, didn’t K move out over a year ago? Sorry, spewing random thoughts.
My dear, your gaydar needs a tuneup. In the entertainment world, everyone knows he’s gay. He really doesn’t hide it here, has been seen making out with the boyfriend countless times.
He’s been spotted making out with his boyfriend? I can’t say I follow his career all that much so I wouldn’t know. It is interesting that he said that Sonni rarely got up in the morning with the baby. He would have to be there in the morning to know that. LOL
Melanie, good point! I don’t follow his career either, and don’t think much of him as a leading man, but my husband worked on his biggest movie, and a lot of other friends, family, neighbors, etc, have worked on sets with him or seen him at WeHo bars and stuff, and told me stories about him. I hope the three of them can learn to let their anger go, for the baby’s sake.
Aww bless. I was lucky enough to meet him 12 years ago, nothing gay about him them but (ahem), but, as Journey said, “Don’t Stop Believing”.
Funny, he’s been spotted and photographed making out with women in strip clubs. Even groping Sonni before she got pregnant in one. You’re going to scream “staged” I know. And everyone needs to stop with the “gaydar” crap, like that’s a legit thing. it isn’t.
@Jane16 Really? So 20 years in Hollywood,15 of them under the radar, a good 5 years as an established character actor with absolutely no need to hide his sexuality and you say he has been seen making out with his boyfriend on countless occasions. But, this is the first I have heard of it and there are no photographs, even though he has a long history as a rather crazy, reckless party boy. Also no comments on twitter. Then there is the bit about him treating her badly on set, well it certainly has never been commented on on social media and he seems to be as popular as ever with his coworkers, so unless you think people like Amy Adams condone such behavior, or have chosen to work with him again against her will because ???????
@invader
It is true that all hetro gossip is dismisses as a set up and the most ridiculous gay gossip is treated as gospel. People prentend Renner’s girlfriends don’t exist or dismiss them as beards even though they couldn’t be more different from the standard Hollwood beards. When he was filming in Asia there was a local blind item about his womanizing, but people only talk about the gay bar blind which is ridiculously easy to disprove. There was even a twitter exchange between a man and Sonni’s long term ex, who clearly hates Renner. The man had posted because he was proud of the fact that his girlfriend had said no when Renner had asked her to show him the town – strange how stuff like that never makes it onto gossip sites.
Well guys, this is an interesting conversation, but I’m still going to trust my husband and friends who have worked with him (Renner). I still believe he’s gay as the Mad Hatter. (not that there’s anything wrong with that!)
@Jane16 The reality is that when you post online nobody knows who you are or what your motivations are. All you can do is look at comments and try to spot some consistency. There simply isn’t a pattern of negative comments about Renner, other than that he can be difficult to interview. There is also nothing on social media to back up that he is openly gay or difficult to work with, in fact the opposite is true. Your comments suggest Renner’s behavior is extreme, so it is hard to accept that nobody else has noticed or chosen to comment. This divorce is not over yet and if you are right I imagine it will all come out. Plus, it isn’t as though he is a huge box office draw, if he is such a nasty piece of work I am sure top actors and directors will find somebody else to work with, that has happened to other actors in the past.
Honestly, Renner needs to reel in his boyfriend or this young woman is going to really lose it and then Renner & bitchy guy will be outed for realz. This is a business deal gone bad, the guys wanted someone good looking to give them a kid, they picked her, made promises to her, and then treated her like shit, especially the boyfriend, who couldn’t stand having her live with them, from what I have heard from many people. This constant leaking of garbage about Sonni is obviously from the bitchy boyfriend, and its really stupid, imo. He should keep his trap shut. She’s out of their lives, accepted a paltry child support (for movie stars, obviously not for “regular” people), & isn’t getting anything else. The “source” that talked to Star was undoubtedly the boyfriend or one of his friends, and they made up the bs about Renner wearing makeup (everyone knows he wears makeup) as being the “intimate” detail to cover for what the real intimate details are–that he is gay and living with his boyfriend. I think Sonni needs to accept her deal, move on with her life, give her child a good upbringing, and avoid these two creeps whenever possible. If she is threatening them with the release of video, that is a very dangerous game to play and is not worth it. I don’t doubt they treated her badly. Let it go, move on with your life.
tbh, I don’t think she’s that pretty. Imo, she cleaned up. New to America, got pregnant, and had a baby with a movie star shortly after? and she’s getting the short end of the stick??!! how did they treat he so badly? I don’t remember any police reports or allegations of abuse. so what did they do to treat her so badly? cuss her out? for 13k (no, she wanted more than that, that’s what she settled for). for a green card, money, and fame, I’d pretend to a victim too.
Constant leaking of garbage about Sonni seems to be one official court document from Winters, which is very damning and one from Renner which included criticism of her as a mother, but is absolutely nothing in comparison to the shade she has been throwing at him for the last few months. The few comments from ‘sources’ and ‘friends’ are extremely mild, just that Jeremy was worried she would take the child back to Canada and that the divorce should have been very straightforward, but Sonni was going out of her way to make it as expensive as possible. I guess the speculation about what she might try to blackmail him with could have been an attempt on his part to deflect attention from more damaging gossip, but I have little doubt she did threaten him and that there is evidence to prove it, because that was one thing she made no attempt to deny and shortly after it appeared in court documents she agreed to the original settlement, which was significantly less than she wanted.
Jellybean, please. One court doc? Check out the interview in People and assorted quotes in other publications. Winters has been a flurry of activity. I heard he was also quite invested in breaking Renner and Jes Macallan up too . . . back when the three of them lived together.
I do want to say Jellybean, that your reply and added thoughts to Jane16 at 6:04 were well said. I am loving the back and forth on this thread. Disagreeing without name calling? You all do know you are on a website don’t you?
P.S. I am falling for Algernon; feeling a little flutter for her smarts and giggles combo.
Thanks Cindy Lou!!! I love a debate and you are right, there is no need for name calling. I also think Algernon is great and believably consistent over many months. As for the interviews, I was under the impression that these are all reworked comments on the court documents and other sites. I certainly don’t give any weight to blind items and the only comments from ‘friends’ are, as I said earlier, very mild. I would be interested to know why you think Winters’ messed in Renner’s relationship with Jess MaCallan, since your comments on this site are the only ones I have seen. I do find Winter’s a little unsettling,because on his instagram account and interviews he seems to go out of his way to claim Renner and his various family members; which doesn’t help Renner at this point. Also interesting is that Algernon’s impression from people who work for Renner and Winters’ renovation company is that Winters is riding on Renner’s coat tails and isn’t as well liked as Renner (although the company as a whole is happy and well run). Winter’s does seem to have a lot to gain by being seen as Renner’s significant other, I am sure it opens a lot of doors and gives him more access to people who can afford luxury property.
In Jeremy’s defense, he ONLY wears makeup when he and Kristopher Winter’s are staying in for the evening!
I used to looove Renner but now I do not know. I see a lot of manipulation going on and his is a whole lot more expert. For someone who (by his own admission – see interviews, tweets and pap pics) is away for up to six weeks at a time (his words), demanding 50/50 physical custody is crazy. Even should he be in the same city, the hours on a movie set are long. He is not the one who will be taking care of her. His multi-million dollar remodel of his Hollywood Hills home includes a “guest” house. Three bedroom, three bath, 2,500 so minimum.
Crazy thing posted before I was done. How rude.
His mother has moved in and that will be the baby’s home too. Renner lives next door when he is in town. Winters shares the big house with Renner. So now he has the perfect setup with the mother of his child being given the literally least amount of support he can legally be held to. She has to maintain a home in a very expensive city with some kind of privacy and security because of paps and looky-loos. That adds a lot to the rent. She did not have one thing in her name or shared name from that marriage. I am not saying she should have the moon, but come on, how about a modest vehicle?
Here is the genius manipulation, Renner and his team drag their feet on the green card and now she is on a very short time line for deportation. SHE has to find a full time job, full time child care (Renner gets the nanny half-time which is on the weekends plus of course he has free in-house care 24/7), car payment, half of private school when that comes up and all this with blatant lack of cooperation from the whole Renner clan all living within a few miles of one another now. Her support system is in Canada where she cannot take the baby anyway. She is being set up to fail big time. How masterful Renner – congrats.
All valid points, but we really don’t know all the details of the prenup or the circumstances of the pregnancy. The way she handled herself over the last 3 months strongly suggests an attempted shake down, even before you take into account the alleged blackmail threats and timely leak to the National Enquirer. Also, forget the poor little lost girl in those recent pap shots, when news of the divorce first came out she posted new professional head shots on her instagram account, which she then locked when Renner started fighting back. What I am saying is that this could have been very nasty right from the start and Renner may well have been playing a long game to avoid being ripped off and publicly humiliated, but most importantly to have some say in the child’s care. We will see how it pans out, but I will not be too critical if in the end it turns out that he out played a player.