Prince William doesn’t like Princess Beatrice’s ‘indiscreet’ boyfriend Dave Clark

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In the midst of all of the Cambridge-Middleton drama over the weekend, I waited to cover this story about one of the poor York princesses. It seems like we never really hear much about Eugenie these days, which is good, I suppose, because it means she’s keeping her head down and working. But Princess Beatrice has been making headlines for all the wrong reasons for months now. Ever since she quit her make-work job at Sony London last December, Beatrice has done little more than lay-about, go on a dozen vacations and “complete” what was possibly the quickest and dodgiest “finance course” in America ever (by my estimation, her “finance course” lasted a week at most).

Some people believe that we shouldn’t even pay attention to Beatrice because she’s not a real “working royal” and she doesn’t get money directly from the Queen or taxpayers. Except that she lives in royal apartments, gets money from her father (who gets money from the Queen), and she has royal protection officers guarding her. The RPOs are a point of contention: the Duke of York wants his girls to have full protection and be “working royals.” The Prince of Wales does not. In any case, what would definitely help the whole “what does Beatrice do again?” questions would be a proposal from her long-term boyfriend, Dave Clark. But there’s a catch. Prince William does not approve. At all.

News that Princess Beatrice will no longer have to ask the Queen’s permission to marry after falling down the line of succession has headed off an awkward Royal Family rift. For I gather that had Prince William been consulted by Her Majesty about Beatrice’s long-term beau Dave Clark, he would not have given him his seal of approval.

As my source explains: ‘William isn’t a huge fan of Dave. It’s fair to say that if Beatrice had asked the Queen for permission to marry Dave, and she in turn asked William privately for his view, she may not have been given a glowing report. The move in succession is fortunate for Dave and Beatrice in that respect.’

With the arrival of Princess Charlotte last weekend, Beatrice, 26, goes down by one to seventh in line to the throne. The Succession of the Crown Act requires only the first six in line to ask permission from the Queen to marry. Beatrice has been dating Clark for almost a decade, and being released from the ‘handcuffs’ means there is nothing to stop their marriage. In fact, there have already been suggestions that Clark popped the question in St Barts on New Year’s Eve.

Clark was not invited to William and Kate’s wedding in 2011, and there have been rumours that the Prince regards Beatrice’s boyfriend as ‘indiscreet’. My source adds: ‘Dave is a nice guy and he makes Beatrice happy, which is important. But William has always been wary of him. There is a clash of personalities.’

In contrast, Beatrice’s parents are said to adore Clark, 32, and regard him as part of the family. Beatrice plans to set up home with Clark in the US where they have both landed jobs. He recently quit his role at Virgin Galactic for a job with taxi app Uber.

[From The Daily Mail]

First of all, William complaining about indiscretion from a royal girlfriend/boyfriend is pretty rich, considering the Middletons pretty much waged a massive media campaign to get William to come back to Kate when he dumped her in 2007. Plus, the Middletons still (to this day) leak crap about William and organize pap-opportunities. Dave Clark might be a bit thirsty, but after ten years together… I don’t know, maybe Dave and Beatrice really love each other? I think Beatrice will probably be moving to New York full-time this year, and my guess is that she and Dave will announce an engagement – with or without William’s approval – at some point in the next year.

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  1. Imo says:

    Is he a waity or is she? At any rate what happened to his job with Virgin? Rumors were that Dave assumed he would become Branson’s buddy and rake in huge bonuses since they run in royal circles. But for whatever reason Branson didn’t warm up to him and now he’s moving to NY. Interesting. i also wonder if the Yorks are still as close to the Bransons/Bonus/Gough-Calthorpes as they were in the recent past.

    • Jegede says:

      And Imo, how is it William gets the blame for everything??

      • bluhare says:

        The article said that if the Queen had asked William about Dave Clark, should Dave have asked Beatrice to marry him while she was still 6th in line, then William could have had input. First 6 have to ask the Queen’s permission to marry. Now she isn’t in that club, she doesn’t have to ask. That’s how William could have got the “blame” for that one.

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        William by reports didn’t ask the Queen. He just did it and informed her right before he informed the world.

        And this story seems odd. David and Bea have lived rather low key until more recently. There’s never really been any scandals or gossip worthy details.

      • bluhare says:

        I know that, FLORC. Wasn’t the point of the article, though.

        Although I think it odd that Beatrice is now under the microscope too.

      • notasugarhere says:

        With W&K hiding in either Norfolk or Berkshire, and Harry headed for the privacy of Africa for the summer, they’re turning attention back to B&E. We’ll see if they’re at Ascot next month, since both are said to be living in NYC now.

      • lile says:

        As the song says:

        Heavy is the head that wears the crown

        High upon his throne
        Loved by few and judged by many
        He bares that weight alone

    • bbg says:

      If those rumors are true, Dave sounds like an awful status jockey. And wow, it may be the only thing I can be on Team William about. But then again, William’s wife and her family seem pretty status obsessed, too. So, the disdain is a little hypocritical on Willy’s part.

    • Imo says:

      Jegede
      Notice the vague inference that somehow William even cares who Beatrice marries.
      Ps – So glad to see you here two days in a row!

      • Jegede says:

        Thanks. Lol

        It’s a temporary post. As I told you before I usually avoid the typical royal narratives on here.

        But speaking as a Brit, your take reflects more than you know

      • bluhare says:

        It was because the Queen could have asked him while she still had to ask permission. If he’d have had input, he could have influenced her decision.

      • Misti64 says:

        Jegede

      • Misti64 says:

        Jegede, I always enjoy your insights and your opinions like the hypocrisy of the Bonas vs Middelton gist, Pippa vs Beatrics line, Harry’s flaws blamed on Billy, Albert and Charlene powers struggles with Princess Caroline e.t.c were always great.
        You, GoodNames along with Imo (of course) should post more often. Really your counter views make it interesting

    • LAK says:

      Dave has been tight with the Bransons forever. His job became untenable after that horrid crash that meant most people who’d invested in the virgin space flight pulled out. He is moving to NYC to do a similar role for Uber.

      And Dave *is* very discreet. Imagine what he could say about the entire royal circle. It’s ridiculous to paint him as the article has done.

      Fergie has been BFFs with the Allthrusters/Branson clan for decades. That’s not going to change any time soon.

      • notasugarhere says:

        DM conveniently forgets William and Dave were friends at St. Andrews, and William introduced Dave and Beatrice. It has been seven years not ten.

        Part of me thinks, if they want to get married, they have to choose either Fergie or Philip at the wedding – but they cannot have both.

      • maddie says:

        His job became untenable after that horrid crash

        So he got fired??

      • Imo says:

        Notasugar
        Beatrice and Dave started dating 9 years ago. And stories that William got them together are overblown. William and Dave got along fairly well and ran in the same circles. Beatrice met Dave at a party they all attended. They exchanged numbers and were soon spotted making out in a cafe. There is nothing to indicate whether or not William wanted 24 year old Clark dating his 18 year old cousin or not. Dave was left off William’s wedding guest list.

      • LAK says:

        Maddie: apologies. I didn’t mean to imply that his exit was under negative circumstances vis a vis Virgin Galactic.

        He was effectively head of sales (fancy title of astronaut relations) for the planned space flights at Virgin Galactic.

        Unfortunately, one of the tests for the inaugural flight resulted in a fatal crash that has set the team back many more years. One of the direct results is that many of the wealthy astronauts (nee investors) pulled out of the flight(s).

        It’s unclear at this point whether the project is still viable although Richard Branson has vowed to carry on.

      • Imo says:

        Uber is a sketchy company. There’s lot of hype about it now but it basically replaces the city cab system. The problem is they treat the drivers like contract employees and offr no benefits, reimbursements or coverage. Unless the driver pays through the nose for common carrier insurance you are gambling with your life if you use this service.
        Perhaps a little less time on yachts and a little more time doing some corporate research would have stood Dave in good stead.

      • FLORC says:

        Many, Many, Many companies are “sketchy” in full and in sections. Sadly, I don’t think a single one of us here can claim there isn’t an aspect of our employers in full and up/down the ladder that can claim there isn’t a single unsketchy aspect. Unless you work for yourself and you know every grass to table aspect along with every relation you have.

        And well said LAK. This is the deflection claiming he isn’t and hasn’t been imo. And look! It’s working. The subtle narrative being William may be looking out for the monarchy in a way we don’t see.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It was both of their wedding list, not just William’s. They left off Eugenie’s boyfriend and the President of the United States. But they made sure to invite a bunch of shopkeepers from Bucklebury who admitted they didn’t know the Middleton family and didn’t know why they hell were invited.

        There is no such thing as a semi-state event, they just did what they wanted because they always do, not caring about the fallout. That shows me, again, how little William respects his family and his role.

      • Charlie says:

        Why would they call the POTUS?

      • Imo says:

        FLORC
        My point was that this company is dangerous, not just sketchy. Dave should take another job, seriously.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The entire thing was a slapdash breach of protocol. Like leaving the royal guests hanging, not inviting them to the reception, and making HM step in to cover their mistake. They wanted to call the shots as a personal wedding BUT have the country pay for it as a state event. Once again shows, to me, William’s lack of respect for his family, his role, and the taxpayers.

        Presidents of France, Germany, Turkey, etc. attended Charles and Diana’s wedding along with Nancy Regan. Argument could be made either way whether or not Regan himself would have attended. Charles wasn’t Head of State at the time. Now do we get the but William is only the heir-to-the-heir rebuttal?

        The people invited from Berkshire openly mocked the fact that they were invited. Not exactly treasuring it as a wonderful family memory.

      • notasugarhere says:

        You seem to be, once again, deliberately missing the point. Reminds me of Dame S. Expected global leaders were not invited to this when they were invited to Charles and Diana’s. Regardless of the fact that C&D weren’t heads of state either.

        The entire way they went about the wedding was a slap in the face. They did it their way, as they always do, and didn’t care how bad it looked. Clarence House’s job was to issue press releases explaining, none of which justifies the overall poor way W&K went about everything.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The point you’re missing, again, is that Charles and Diana followed protocol and accepted/embraced what they should be doing. Both weddings were events that belonged to the people and country, not to the individual couples. If W&K didn’t accept that, they could have gotten married at Windsor like Edward and Sophie and saved the taxpayers a lot of money. Instead, they insisted on what was in essence a private wedding at the taxpayers expense.

        Clarence House issuing statements about what was going on with the wedding doesn’t change that point. The way this wedding was done, overall, was shoddy because W&K were selfish in their choices. As per usual.

      • Nancy says:

        Well I don’t approve of Williams’s lazy wife. So we are all even.

        Really, how silly! Indiscreet?!? If he were indiscreet, I think we’d have heard a lot more about catty Kate than we have. As far as William’s obsession with privacy, someone needs to take this grown man to the woodshed for a chat. He was born royal. There is no privacy,in the way that we peons have privacy. If he wants privacy, give up the succession to the throne and live life as a self- supporting, private landowner. Hire and pay for your own security guards. Pay for your own renovations and courses. It’s easy.

      • noway says:

        IMO I wouldn’t call Uber a sketchy company. It is the fastest growing ride sharing company globally with investors from Google, Goldman Saks among others. Most of the Uber drivers are part time drivers just looking for extra money, not a taxi service per say. I would think it would be a great opportunity to get in fairly early for him, as the company just started in 2009. Good luck to both of them if they do get married. I think being a royal would be fun for about ten minutes then I would be done with it.

    • Imo says:

      Jegede
      Ahhh…!

  2. Scal says:

    They’ve been together a decade? Well look at dave being waity 2.0

    Seriously if he had been the famous one there would have been all this talk about her waiting around for Him to propose. I think he/Beatrice should get the same crap Kate got for being in a relationship for 10 years before getting married.

    • perplexed says:

      Even Beatrice isn’t as famous as Kate and William though. I had never heard of this guy until now, which is why I’m surprised he’s considered indiscreet.

      I figure any guy Beatrice picks has got to be less embarrassing than Andrew.

      • Green Girl says:

        I don’t follow gossip on Beatrice that much, but I did remember she was dating this guy. I had no idea it was for that long!

    • Kara says:

      you cant compare that, she never really was going to be Queen, William was always sure to be King. if she marries or dies a virgin it does not matter for the royal family. who William dates or marries is also historically important.

    • anne_000 says:

      I think the difference between the relationships of Beatrice and Kate is that Beatrice has a life outside of just waiting for Dave to marry her. She has had jobs, friends, a social life, etc. She’s not at home waiting for Dave to call her. Her every move and thought and goal isn’t to hope that Dave would pick her to be his wife. I think she has had a more rounded life than Kate has. Whereas for Kate, her life was all about William. No jobs or interests that did not center around being available for William at the drop of a hat. Being with William was her only goal. It’s been said that her social life was centered around William and his friends.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Others insist that their careers rely heavily on their connections. And many of those connections are beside them on vacation because they are friends.

      • perplexed says:

        Wasn’t William rumoured to have cheated on Kate? I figure that’s also why she was called Waity.

        Meeting at 20 and marrying at 30 isn’t odd. I think that’s the norm nowadays. But I think the cheating part probably helped to cast the narrative a certain way.

        Rumours of Carole telling Kate to wait around for William when both parties seemed ready to move on probably don’t help either.

    • GracePM says:

      Kate was Waity because the only thing she did was wait for the ring. At least Dave has been working at a job during this time.

  3. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    Beatrice is looking cute these days.

  4. JulieM says:

    Just gotta say, William has some nerve, if this is true. He doesn’t get a vote in who Beatrice marries. Waity Davey just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

    What I can’t wait for is what are they going to do with Fergie when one of her daughters gets married. They can’t forbid her to attend her own daughter’s wedding, can they?

  5. Bored suburbanhousewife says:

    This seems way overblown. Unless Dave was physically or emotionally abusing her, I don’t think William would “object” to their marriage, He might not relish the idea of seeing him at holidays, but that is no reason anyone would spoil the happiness of a family member. Besides William seems to barely attend family holidays, too busy with CarolE.

    Is it just me or does she look a lot like Marie Osmond?

  6. Talie says:

    He supposedly introduced them.

  7. Emily says:

    I don’t buy this story (the Queen allowed Waity to happen after all..) but I do think that it seems harsh that he wasn’t allowed to come to the Royal Wedding.

    • Imo says:

      Maybe William found out Dave gave the okay for the York’s hats.

      • FLORC says:

        Bea’s hat went onto raise 6 figures for 1 of her charities.
        If Dave ok’d the hat or if he had the idea to auction it this is hardly a mark against him. Bea got mocked for it, but it was genius in the end.

      • notasugarhere says:

        She trusted a famous milliner to make her hat, that’s what he made to match the detail on her dress, and she gets hate for trusting him. I thought what B did with the hat afterwards was great.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Yes, I suspect she did trust him. B&E’s clothing choices have been ridiculed for years. When they trust people who know what they’re doing (Beatrice’s Elie Saab, Eugenie’s red Vivian Westwood), they do much better.

        When a famous milliner custom designs the hat to match your outfit and says, “This is perfect” many people would have trusted him. The outfit overall was fairly bland, the hat at least gave it some life. She was said to be surprised by the hubbub about it.

    • bluhare says:

      My guess, and this is just a guess, is that William “tested” Dave by telling him something that ended up in the press. From what I’ve heard, that would be the death knell.

      • Imo says:

        Interesting!

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        If William did this I bet it happened years ago. That we’ve heard nothing in years and years of a dislike or internal conflict makes me think…
        William takes no issue with David.
        If David failed or David was as thirsty as is being alluded to we would have heard a lot more within the last few years.

      • bluhare says:

        I think William’s like an elephant with stuff like that, FLORC. Never forgets, and never forgives.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And he still hasn’t figured out who keeps calling Tanna.

  8. perplexed says:

    William doesn’t seem interested in anything. Thus, I can’t see him being interested in who Beatrice marries. Ok, maybe he’s interested in his kids, but I think that’s about it.

    • Nancy says:

      I’m starting to think William has a low level or moderate depression, “melancholy” in the old days, starting with his mother’s death. He rarely looks joyous, as Harry often does. It would explain a lot.

  9. LAK says:

    We can argue the merits of her trust fund, but it is not true that B has taxpayer funded Bodyguards. Her bodyguards are paid privately.

    As for William’s feelings about Dave Clark, he barely hangs out with B so he isn’t in a position to judge. Harry hangs out with B, and doesn’t appear to have any issues with Dave Clark.

    FInally, with the birth of Charlotte, B is finally out of the loop of royals that require HM’s permission to marry. William isn’t monarch yet, so his permission or opinion on B’s future marital partners has never been required, and never will be.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      When you say they are paid for “privately,” by whom are they paid. Because I’d it’s by Andrew, where do you think his money comes from? Or are they paid by another party?

      • LAK says:

        GNAT: a very good question, and we are told repeatedly that Andrew pays for them himself.

        I tend to shrug my shoulders when it comes to the royal family’s trust funds because they come from a variety of sources going back generations, not just favourable tax conditions. If we abolished the monarchy, the current members would still have those trusts.

        And so I shrug, and make a separation between the trusts vs tax payer funds.

        Further, Andrew has been known to hang out with billionaires and whatnot that have helped him or his family financially, so his money isn’t necessarily exclusively HM or royal family trust funded.

      • Imo says:

        The queen gifted him a residence which he turned around and sold to a shady “friend” for millions more than market value. He pocketed a tidy sum.

      • LAK says:

        IMO: He lived at Sunninghill Park for more than 10yrs. Let’s not pretend he gave it up as soon as it was gifted.

        That said, the extra money he made off of it’s sale falls into the category of ‘other non royal family revenue streams’ that fund his lifestyle. And that’s the point I keep making about his money.

        If you want to say that he wouldn’t have the house to begin with, the same can be said for all HM’s children and grandchildren. They all benefit from her largesse and or position. And if they sold up, they’d make a tidy profit. That’s the privilege of being in that particular family.

      • Imo says:

        LAK
        Getting dates wrong isn’t the same as being pretentious, you know that right?
        The sale of that property sparked controversy in the media and was side-eyed heavily. None of the other royals seem to have this problem. They sail along just fine for the most part.

      • LAK says:

        IMO: who said who was pretentious? Where did that come from?

        Further, have I denied Andrew’s extra revenue stream? I’ve said it, 3 times now, that he has other revenue streams….’billionaires and whatnot’….

        You seem to want to
        a) make an argument where there is none as per usual

        b) invent insults to god knows who in order to make your point.

    • Imo says:

      Andrew benefits greatly from the Queen’s largesse. The queen benefits from the taxpayers.

    • Murphy says:

      If the top 6 need HM’s permission to marry then why did William get to marry Kate? He didn’t ask permission, he TOLD the Queen just before he put out the engagement press release.

      • FLORC says:

        I realy should have read before posting! Between yours and LAK’s comments mine are restating points.

    • angie says:

      Even if the source of the paychecks to the Bodyguards is the taxpayers, it can still be justified. If she were to be kidnapped and held for ransom, don’t you think the Queen would pay anything to get her granddaughter back? And if the kidnapper were a terrorist with demands regarding UK foreign policy, wouldn’t Parliament have some tough choices to make?

  10. Lara says:

    So 10 years together – when she was 16 and he was 22. Can we have some Kylie Jenner anger in here please?

    • notasugarhere says:

      They’ve been together 6-7 years, not 10.

    • LAK says:

      They met when B was 18.

    • Imo says:

      That still makes him a 24 year old dating an 18 year old with self esteem issues. Gross.

      • notasugarhere says:

        What makes you think she had self-esteem issues at 18? I remember her choosing to lose weight after some holiday pictures, but that was much later. I think it was during the PR for that charity marathon that she admitted she has a thicker skin than Eugenie. Her younger sister takes the criticism much more personally than Beatrice does.

      • Imo says:

        Self esteem issues or not Beatrice had just been forced out of a highly inappropriate, scandalous relationship with a convicted criminal. Let’s just say she was vulnerable.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Or she was ready for a steady influence who wouldn’t betray her, someone who was already trusted by some of her closest friends.

      • mayamae says:

        What are the details of Beatrice’s highly inappropriate, scandalous relationship she had at the age of eighteen or younger, and why am I not surprised that her parents would have allowed her to be in such a relationship?

      • bluhare says:

        Yeah, who was the criminal Beatrice was with? I don’t recall that, although I may not have been paying the attention then that I do now.

  11. Dena says:

    Despite the fact that there is something swarmy about Dave that has always creeped me out (he reminds me of the Texan who sucked Fergie’s toes (XX Bryant??)), when did William become the elder, respected statesman?

  12. Elisabeth says:

    B has crazy eyes!

  13. Imo says:

    Andrew and Fergie apparently love Dave. That tells me everything I need to know.

    • Murphy says:

      Ha yeah because he’s loaded!

      • Citresse says:

        The ick factor with these two is overwhelming. And if a man dates a woman for years and doesn’t appear to commit in some way, it’s not going anywhere.

    • Imo says:

      Exactly.

    • bluhare says:

      Just because they like him (and I share your opinion of them, especially Andrew) doesn’t mean he isn’t a nice guy. They are her parents after all. You made a point upthread about Uber being sketchy; implication being he might be too. Don’t know much about Uber, but I consider Walmart and their practices sketchy too, but I don’t make a judgment about their employees.

      Although if I’m being honest, he has never given me the warm and fuzzies either.

      • Imo says:

        Bluhare
        My implication was not that he is sketchy. I was simply giving background on the company. I think he will be looking for another job pretty soon when the company goes belly up.
        As for the quip about Andrew and Fergie that was intended to be a joke insinuating they like Dave because he’s wealthy not a statement about his character.
        I think he vacations too much but I don’t know much about his character. And while I seriously shudr at the thought of a 24 year old dating an 18 year old at least they remained a couple.

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        Agree, Things that could slide on a great many get twisted around when connected to Fergie and Andrew. Any opportunity to take a shot. Much becomes justification.

        And Kitten Mittens started dating her current boyfriend right before she turned 19. She’s 26 soon. He was 25. It was a discussion. His dating history and age of gf’s prior came up. As well as my inlaws/her parents and their age gap when they started.
        They’re a lovely couple and by all accounts neither have emotional issues and needed to date up or down in age to fill a void. I think it’s a lazy argument to go there.

        Imo
        Comment not directed at you, but to this reoccuring theme of attack that gts brought up often. Same for how anything Andrew/Fergie agree with must be awful or shady somehow. They’re not great people, but have shown themselves to have been better parents.

      • notasugarhere says:

        HM and Philip met when she was 13 and he was 18, and she was set on him from that moment.

        Former King Constantine of Greece married Anne-Marie two weeks after she turned 18. They met when she was around 8. They met again when she was 13 or 15, at which point he told his parents he was going to marry her. Married 50+ years.

        King and Queen of Bhutan met when she was 7 and he was 17. He admits he said at the time they met, “When you grow up, if I am single and not married and if you are single and not married, I would like you to be my wife, provided we still feel the same.”

        Either you think those are sweet love stories or not.

        I find Dave and Beatrice starting their relationship at 24 and 18 of little concern.

      • notasugarhere says:

        btw, Tino was 24 when he married 18-year-old Anne-Marie.

        “or not” meant “I’d give these stories the side eye harder than Beatrice and Dave’s”

      • LAK says:

        For the record, I side eye all these age differences,no matter the context, where the younger partner is so much younger and especially if they are a teen. No exceptions.

        It’s great that it works out in some cases, but I side eye all of them.

      • mayamae says:

        IMO, I agree with you. Some of those examples are disgusting.

  14. maddie says:

    Just curious – Is his background similar to Kate’s (wealthy, upper middleclass) or is he an aristocrat? Doubt he’s just a regular joe.

    • Imo says:

      His father was a wealthy executive. He has American and British citizenship and was educated in the best schools. He runs in posh circles.

      • bluhare says:

        So a lot like Kate’s background in other words. 🙂

      • Imo says:

        Similar in many ways with the exception that the Clarks’ wealth was self-contained. I don’t think they had to sacrifice or borrow to fund Dave’s lifestyle.

      • bluhare says:

        And you know the Middletons did that?

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        It’s known.Midds… The double mortgage. Uncle Gary funds. Kate borrowing her mothers clothes to make her closet seem larger. And a rent clothing type shop Kate was known to shop at.
        Though it could also be argued David’s family didn’t live as large as they could have to keep their money self contained. They lived within their funds and had nothing to gain by being seen living lavishly.

    • Cricket says:

      And his parents names are Michael and Carol (with no E)….

  15. Murphy says:

    Who cares what William thinks, he’s awful.

    I am wondering when these two will go ahead and get married already.

  16. bettyrose says:

    You lost me at “get permission to marry.”

  17. Riemc526 says:

    Her eyes are super buggy!!

    • lylaoooo says:

      those eyes.. kinda creepy… can you imagine , waking up in the middle of the night and find her looking at you?

    • JenniferJustice says:

      Like Christina Ricci. Yikes! If I did wake up in the night and either one of these ladies were staring at me, I would not only be frightened, but kinda pissed.

  18. Betti says:

    He seems like a nice guy. I always thought Will introduced them? If true willy has a nerve considering the indiscreet behaviour of his wife and her family.

    B looks like her father but she also has Queen Victoria’s eyes. I’ve always liked the York girls, they come across as normal, down to earth people.

  19. Tocf says:

    That is not Beatrice, that is Eugenie. Eugenie has red hair while Beatrice is dark brown. Beatrice lives a quieter life.

    • The Original Mia says:

      That most definitely is Beatrice. Eugenie has dark hair and lives in NY.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Tocf, I think you have them flipped. Beatrice is the red head who looks like Queen Victoria. Eugenie is the brunette who looks like the Queen Mum. Eugenie has been in NYC for about two years working at Paddle8 auctions.

    • Olenna says:

      @Tocf, I beg to differ.

  20. Jeanne says:

    Maybe they’re waiting for Philip to die so there’s no issue about who can come to the wedding (i.e., Fergie would attend without anybody sitting out in protest)

    • Chrissy says:

      Sad but true, given the family dynamics, I was thinking the same thing, Jeanne.

    • mayamae says:

      I can’t stand Fergie, but if Phillip would boycott his own granddaughter’s wedding because she wanted her mother there, he would be the bastard I’ve always thought him.

  21. The Original Mia says:

    Don’t believe this story for a minute, but let’s play spot the hypocrisy of William Cambridge.

    1) Dave is indiscreet. Hmm…whose family has their own personal pap who routinely got exclusives about vacations, dates, etc up until 2014? Hmm…

    2) Asking permission to marry. Hmm…who pulled a surprise engagement announcement and interview on his grandmother, the Queen, 2 hours before it aired. Hmm…

    Hypocrite.

  22. Elly says:

    LOL Dave is so indiscreet, yeah that´s why no one outside royal forums remembers his name…
    The british papers hate the Yorks, would Dave do something fishy the press would use it to attack Beatrice once more.

    Seriously Beatrice and Dave are together for years now and all without scandals/splits/affairs or whatever is so typically for their loathed parents and the rest of the Windsor clan. Say what you want about them, but i have that feeling the York girls (for all the s*it with their parents) will be the lucky ones ending in scandal free, stable relationships while golden boy William and maybe even Harry may end unhappy and/or divorced.

  23. Amy says:

    If David married Beatrice, wouldn’t he be given some kind of title (consort to
    York princess or whatever) and be forced to give up his career? Or would he be allowed to work? I know some spouses of royals still work (Princess Madeleine of Sweden’s husband comes to mind, he has a fancy financial job in NYC) if their royal spouse is not in the line of succession. I wonder if that was the issue before William married Kate and had kids. Beatrice is so far down in the line of succession, she can pretty much do whatever she wants now.

    • jaygee says:

      David might be given a minor title of some kind, but he wouldn’t become “royal” and I don’t think their children would be considered royal either. He could still work, etc. This is similar to what occurred with Margaret’s husband, who became Lord Snowden on his marriage, but continued to work as a photographer and had non-royal children with Margaret. Their kids were aristocratic (the son and daughter of an earl) but not royal. Madeleine’s situation is a bit different, not in the least because daughters of the sovereign in Sweden pass their royal titles on to their children, and because the King of Sweden wished to have his second daughter and her husband more closely involved with royal duties. Obviously, the Queen and Charles don’t want that for the York girls.

    • anne_000 says:

      I think Dave will be allowed to go on as usual. Charles doesn’t want Beatrice and Eugenie to be part of his main BRF line. That’s why he’s cut off their security guard funding and they’re not on the civil list. He wants only him and his direct descendants.

      That’s why B&E have jobs, their dad pays for their guards, and they’re not expected to do Royal work like W&K are supposed to do.

  24. elle says:

    They don’t look old enough to have dated for 10 years!

  25. Ferdinand says:

    Speaking of royals, does anybody watch The Royals on E! ?
    It’s the network’s first scripted show. (besides the Kardashians) it’s been my guilty pleasure this season.

  26. LA Juice says:

    who gave that girl the crazy Disney princess eye makeover?

  27. maggie says:

    I call BS on the whole story!

  28. Margaret says:

    To those commenting on a seemingly nice young lady’s eyes, I believe she inherited them from King George III. Who’d you all inherit your shallow cruelty from?