Vanity Fair is doing a good job parceling out their Caitlyn Jenner exclusive cover story, and Caitlyn’s big debut really has blown everything else out of the gossip water this week. If some celebrity needs to go to rehab or a high-profile couple needs to announce their split, this might be the week for them to fly under the radar. But if a celebrity was actually trying to rollout another story in a splashy, look-at-me way, well… Caitlyn just stole your thunder. Even though the thunder belongs to Caitlyn’s stepdaughter, Kim Kardashian. Sources tell Radar that Kim asked Caitlyn to hold the VF release so Kim could have a moment with her pregnancy announcement. Too bad.
A source close to the family tells Radar exclusively, “Kris and other family members asked Caitlyn to hold the Vanity Fair cover and her big reveal until after Kim’s pregnancy got the proper publicity, but she refused to do so! Caitlyn said that she was not going to stand to the side anymore and that her days of doing what they wanted her to do are officially over.”
“Kim is a little bummed because she supported this transition so much more than the rest of the family and feels that she was owed the proper respect of holding it off for a couple more days,” the insider tells Radar. “But Caitlyn knew that if she did not do this, it would leak and that is the last thing that she wanted.”
Even if this is true – that Kim asked Caitlyn to hold the VF release – it really wasn’t Caitlyn’s call at that point. Vanity Fair releases this stuff on a schedule, and all of this was planned out on an editorial level for MONTHS. Granted, Kim also planned her pregnancy rollout for months, so all this proves is that Caitlyn and Kim really weren’t sharing their plans.
What else? Honestly, we’re not even 72 hours past the initial VF cover release and I’m already overwhelmed by all of the information. VF released more excerpts here – Caitlyn talks about how she’s nicer than Bruce, how moved she’s been by reading all of her fan mail after the Diane Sawyer interview, how she felt like doing the Vanity Fair shoot was much better than winning an Olympic gold medal. There’s also this part, on how she decided on her name:
“It’s one of the hardest things in life—choosing your own name,” Jenner said. One way she attempted to come up with ideas was by watching the Miss America pageant. She’d survey some of the contestants to get ideas and see if any of them fit. She also liked the names Heather or Cathy. But Caitlyn also stuck out prominently in her mind. When her assistant, Rhonda, at one point independently suggested Caitlyn, Jenner said, “I love that name, too!” The coincidence helped seal the deal.
With the name itself set, Jenner went back and forth about how it would be spelled, between “k” and “c” as the first letter—no small task in the Jenner/Kardashian family, with its trademark “k” names. Finally, she decided it was best to break tradition, and the media associations that went with it. She settled on “c.”
I understand the idea of differentiating herself from the K-Klan, but I think it’s a cheat to still use a K-sound name. I mean, “Heather Jenner” would have been a cleaner break, you know? Caitlyn-with-a-C still sounds like Kaitlyn-with-a-K.
And finally, you can see the promo for Caitlyn’s new E! series here.
Photos courtesy of Annie Leibovitz/Vanity Fair.
At the risk of getting tarred and feathered, I’m pretty over this story already.
*lines up to get tarred and feathered with you* Me, too. Methinks Caitlyn is as much of a famewhore as the Kardashians.
Methinks you are right.
Yes! +1,000,000. I’m so over her too.
Yep.
I think part of this heavy rollout has a lot to do with the woman Bruce killed in that car accident. Caitlyn is here and a trans champion, so of course everyone will forget about Bruce and his victim.
Meeeee toooooooo.
And again, your personality doesn’t change automatically with your gender identity. You’re not nicer if you act like a petulant spoiled child because your adult children won’t do what you want them to do. And saying you are nicer than your alterego doesn’t necessarily make it so.
Of course your personality doesn’t change with your identity, but it frequently does change through therapy, hormone treatments and surgery. Even people who’ve had open heart surgery are frequently described as being a different person after.
Whatever you feel about Jenner and the Kardashians, living life hiding who you are must have such an effect on you mentally so probably could manifest in how you are as a person? Having a weight lifted off you so to speak..
But yes, I am torn between….ok enough now about the oversaturation and …well it’s good that this is giving transgender issues more publicity and might make it easier in the future. I do think people like Laverne seem to do it without reality shows etc.
@GiGi I believe the personality shifts come when a person has a heart transplant. They are known to take on personality traits and likes/dislikes of the donor.
Some people may decide to live healthier after open heart surgery, but that unfortunately didn’t happen with my mr.
I remember watching a very interesting documentary once about heart transplant patients and how they changed after their operation. From vague memory doctors were saying there was DNA in the heart or something (again, very hazy memory) so it wasn’t impossible that the recipient took on characteristics of the donor. One guy was a typical macho bloke who never read a book or wrote suddenly started writing poetry afterwards and it turned out his donor wrote poetry… funny coincidences like that.
No I’m done. Happy she is living her truth but honest to God I don’t care. Just do what you need to to feel whole, I support that a 100% but I don’t care anymore.
Yaaaaaaas! Thank you! God bless, good luck but I’m over it.
I’m beyond tired. Only thing I want to see are the receipts for all the money she’s making selling her story.
I’m right beside you. I just came to say I was officially exiting this storyline.
and the pic of her in the car, considering the woman who died, is offensive to me, and I don’t offend easily.
+1, excellent point original kay. Really bad taste.
I watched the vid clip and when she’s driving around, turning her head this way and that, I was thinking ugh keep your eyes on the road, lady. Totally clueless and insensitive.
Yes, that was my first thought, too, about the car. REALLY poor taste.
Sign me up.
Side bar: what has happened to dlisted? Their commenters seem really mean recently. It’s not any fun over there anymore. The comments on their post about Caitlyn were pretty gross.
(hope this doesn’t double-post!)
I haven’t been there in a while, will have to venture a look.
Nah, they’ve always been highly vitriolic. Also disarmingly hilarious, so it’s a trade off.
@mimif – oh it’s a great trade-off, and never more so than on this particular topic.
I’ve struggled so hard with the borderline reverential coverage on here. MichaelK pitched it the way it should be pitched and his readership commented – hilariously and refreshingly – accordingly.
Me too.
Me too. I haven’t read any of the threads either, so forgive me when I says she looks like a Caitlyn like I look like, well I’m not quite sure what I look like, but she does not look like a Caitlyn. Not a fan of the name on her.
It almost sounds too young?
Me too. I’m done with anything that has to do with the Kartrashians or the Jenners. It’s much too much
Yeah, Caitlin is just like the rest of the girls in her family unfortunately. Insufferable and attention starved. I wish that weren’t the case. I wish it weren’t about glamour and vanity, and about living the life that you feel in your soul. This makes being a woman seem so basic. Being a woman is so much more than how you look.
That’s been my issue. The roll out has been so hyper sexualized. Why pose in your underwear as your first photo. Being a woman is more than big boobs, tight dresses and a pout. Talking about the beauty regimen, and getting a name from watching a beauty pageant (?!?). There is an overemphasis on superficial issues of being a woman, not the difficulties, problems and deeper issues of women and not issues to do with being a trans person is just the wrong way to do this. An opportunity was missed.
well, there were some commenters saying that she did that because she wanted to ruin the money shot for the paps. If it was me, I would want to look as good as possible, coming out as a woman. and this is prob the first time she has been out so publicly as a woman so she wants to look as good as possible. you know, just like us if we were being photographed.
Yep. I have never followed the Kardashians, but you know, you can’t completely escape them. They are all over. If Caitlyn doesn’t watch out, she is going to suffer from over exposure. 😉
Me tooooo. And the lame thing is that I’m a VF subscriber so in a week or so I’ll get the magazine and be like “Oh, I know this already” and probably not even read the whole article. A day or two with no Caitlyn news would be appreciated.
So am I. My dad got me a subscription. On the plus side, it’ll make excellent lining for the cats’ litter box.
i’m over it. AS IF vanity fair would postpone this roll-out to announce a reality star’s 2nd pregnancy. kim – it is your 2nd pregnancy – no one cares – its the way of the world.
She is so beautiful though. indistinguishable from your average over 50 affluent woman in LA.
I understand that VF is the one parceling all this out and that Caitlyn herself hasn’t actually said anything much beyond her original tweet with the cover. That being said…..I’m sort of with you. My Facebook and Twitter feeds have been filled with nothing but this for 2 days.
Add me to the list of being so tired of the whole thing. Okay, you’re a woman–and you’ve let the whole world know. And I totally understand that you feel like you have helped out the transgender world. But please, move on with your life privately and quietly. We don’t need any more publicity whores and money grabbing Kardashian-like people.
I will never get tired of this story!
Thank you. Me too.
So over it I have no opinion either way. When you still care about something you’re not over it.
I’ll line up right next to you. I understand this was something Bruce was going through for decades, but a life altering decision of this magnitude deserved to be handled in a more dignified and circumspect fashion. Obviously, the older children recognized this and that’s why they opted not to take part in this circus. Caitlyn should spell her name with a “K”, because she’s obviously still following the Kardtrashian Manifesto – use everything in your life that should be sacred to garner more public attention.
Sorry, Caitlyn, in my heart you’ll always be that guy on my box of Wheaties.
Add one more to your ever growing post. I’m so over Caitlin and her story. I agree with the posters who are saying she’s fame whoring just like the rest of the Klan. It’s not about her trying to get ahead of the paps, it’s about fame and attention. She learned from the best.
Same. x1000
Yep. So much attention for this awful family.
Me too
Whew, thought it was just me. I salute the hell out her decision to finally live life on her own terms but compare this lady to Laverne Cox and just nope.
Even before Bruce became Caitlyn I was getting a narcissistic or at least selfish vibe off of him. Didn’t he have a son from a previous marriage that he absolutely neglected once he’d remarried?
I suspect he isn’t such a great person, no matter which sex he is or becomes.
“Caitlyn talks about how she’s nicer than Bruce…”
I know this was discussed yesterday, so I apologize if this sounds like white noise. But I’m mildly disturbed by this separation of Caitlyn from Bruce. They are one in the same, the only difference being that one is the true outward expression of who Caitlyn has always been on the inside. Who she has ALWAYS BEEN, lies, abandonment, and selfishness included. The fact that a Vanity Fair cover has been released doesn’t suddenly change Caitlyn’s moral compass, which has always been flawed. It feels wrong that Caitlyn is treating Bruce like a separate entity– like a box she can lock all of her mistakes in so that she doesn’t have to deal with them. We all make mistakes, and that only makes her human, but her status as a trans individual doesn’t mean that her mistakes aren’t still a part of who she is. If you’re going to own it, own it all.
Preach, sister!
Thank you for articulating so well my feelings about the whole story. I fully support and applaud anyone with the courage to come out and live their life as who they are, gay, straight, trans… I am fed up with the white washing and sainthood conferred upon Caitlyn – she is still responsible for all the things Bruce did- bad parenting, kooperation in the Koven reality series, the recent accident, the continuing media circus that has much less to do (or nothing) with the trans community, except as an unintentional aside, and everything to do with another reality series, and a big cash payout. Different face and body, same self promoting, self serving, greedy person within.
So agree with you. Well said.
To infinity and beyond!
Agree. Very well said. No elaborations needed. The wording was perfect.
Caitlin didn’t abandon her children. Caitlin didn’t kill a woman on the freeway a couple months ago… Caitlin is innocent and pure…
No wait…
Bruce didn’t kill that woman. The hummer made contact and ended her life.
FLORC the only reason the Himmer made contact was because Bruce slammed into the back of the car he was travelling too close too. It doesn’t matter if the person in front was making an illegal turn you are supposed to leave enough stopping distance to allow you to stop in ANY circumstance. He didn’t. He was responsible them and she is responsible now.
I totally agree. If I were Caitlyn’s child, I would feel like my father had died.
Perfectly said, Shambles. On another note, I cannot believe ESPN gave Caitlyn the courage ESPY over Noah Galloway. I actually got angry when I heard that.
Agreed!
I totally agree! Caitlyn is showing her NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder). Nothing is ever her fault. When you read the VF excerpts it’s either Bruce’s fault (like there was a personality transplant along with the cosmetic procedures), or Kris’ fault (Bruce was a victim of Kris’ manipulation —> Bruce wasn’t a better father because Kris wouldn’t allow it, Kris wouldn’t let him cross dress at home, Kris didn’t give Bruce enough attention). The “rage” Caitlyn showed at the older 4 kids not wanting to have anything to do with this E series is typical NPD behavior, because it’s all about them. The comments and digs about Kris have been downright bitchy and unnecessary. I’m not even a Kris Jenner fan, but she is the mother of their children and Caitlyn needs to take the high road. She’s not.
Everything Bruce/Caitlyn has done in the last 65 years has been all about Bruce/Caitlyn and what Bruce/Caitlyn feels/wants/needs at the time.
The good feelings I initially had toward him/her are now spent. I hope Caitlyn’s life is everything she thought it would be. She’s hurt a lot of people along the way to get there.
“The good feelings I initially had toward him/her are now spent. ”
Yes.
Well said and I agree!
@ Sherry…Well said. I once was in a relationship with someone with NPD and although I don’t personally know Caitlyn, I can tell that *all* the signs are there. The blaming, NEVER accepting responsibility for ANYTHING, the grudge holding and never letting of that past, the martyr syndrome and most importantly the me me ME all the time, it’s all there. The worst part about is they rarely change because they are so self-absorb that they don’t realize or care that they’re doing anything wrong.
Co-sign this. This is just too much deflection. The TV show may be called a docu-series, but just wait and see how superficial and trashy it ends up being. Just a gut feeling.
Precisely. It doesn’t matter what all you do to the outside. The inside is what tells the truth about one’s soul.
You said all I wanted to say. I think that people are so scared to offend that they don’t want to point out that she talks like she has several different personalities. It’s like she is an “entity” that has several personalities, one name Bruce, one name Caitlyn and she talks about them like they’re not even her. She seems to have trouble using *I* when talking about herself it’s Bruce this, Caitlyn that, her this, she that. It’s a mindf*ck. I’ve heard other trans people talk about themselves and I’ve never heard this type of severe dissociation before. This can’t be healthy imho.
I know two, longtime transgenders, and while they did change names, there is none of this total separation.
Y’all are saying exactly what I”m thinking!
…could not agree with you more. Well said.
+1,000,000
Whether Bruce or Caitlyn, she’s still not a great person by any stretch of the imagination.
And this is why I look forward to your post Shambles. So on point.
Watching the Miss America pageant to decide a name. Really?
You know what I think? I think Caitlyn’s idea of what being a woman entails is a little misguided. From using Miss America to decide her name to the big reveal in lingerie. Being a woman is so much more than clothes and being pretty or sexy. God, I wish all I had to be in the world to be a woman was to be pretty and wear cute clothes. But in the world of the Kardashians, that may be true.
Interesting ideas, PW. Very thoughtful. I think you might be onto something.
I think Caitlyn’s got a very ’50s/early ’60s idea of what a woman should be, since that’s when she grew up. And I remember one of the very first reports after the Diane Sawyer interview said that Bruce’s new name would be Heather, so that was totally spot on. Wish I could remember where I read that.
Yes! This is exactly why I had such a huge issue with the stupid VF cover.
@PW so very true. This is a warped view of womanhood she has. She looks like she wants to have a beauty pageant crown on her head, as if that’s all there is to womanhood. If she wants to be a real woman maybe she should woman up and parent her children, starting with the child who has been dating a grown man for how long.
Exactly what I was thinking….
I have to say… I’ll be watching the hell out of that show. As much as Bruce sounded like a d-bag, he was also living a pretty big lie. It is incredibly courageous of her to make the transition late in life. The transgender people I know, personally, have transitioned as children, late teens and all the way up to age 35, but I’ve never met someone who transitioned as late as Caitlyn… I think her story could really give people a lot of hope.
And I love what she says in the opening – I think about this all the time when I see people stuck in bad relationships, not living their potential – they’re going to be lying on their deathbed and think, “I just wasted my whole life.”
“The transgender people I know, personally, have transitioned as children, late teens and all the way up to age 35, but I’ve never met someone who transitioned as late as Caitlyn….”
@GiGi, I do not know where you live, but this is a so very unqualified statement on transgender people.
I add, unless you are trangender yourself or are in an environment of transgenders, one does not met that many transgenders. And if you are transgender yourself, your statement does not show much understanding for people who are not like Jenner.
How is my stating that the transgender people I personally know have transitioned earlier than Caitlyn and that I, personally, have not known anyone who transitioned at her age? Especially when saying I hope that older people suffering with gender identity issues are inspired by her?
I, myself, am not transgender but do, in fact, know several people who are, despite your seeming disbelief. I live in a very diverse and liberal area. I grew up around family friends who are transgender, I’ve worked with transgender people, children in my life are transgender. YOU may not meet that many transgender people, but please, try not to push your reality onto mine.
@eknasok – I have to defend GiGi here and ask why you are attempting to tell her how many transgender people she has met and currently know in her life? How in the world would you know that information? Your post is very misguided, in my opinion.
I’m pretty much a hermit in a smallish town, and even I have known two people who are transgender. Maybe you know more than you think, you just haven’t been able to tell. Women come in many variations quite naturally.
He’s just as bad as his ex-wife. It’s all about the $$$. I lost a lot of respect for him that he’s made this so OUT THERE and not at all private.
I don’t think there’s anything this family won’t do for money & fame.
Totally agree! You can see Kris’s influence on Bruce’s life and now Caitlin’s. It’s all about the money and fame. How sick that whole family is (excluding the Jenner kids from the first marriage).
There’s going to be so much more drama related to show ratings and stuff.
My own feeling is that this new show will ultimately end the K’s own show.
Oh, that would be wonderful! Except, the girls would all abandon Kris’ ship like rats if Bruce gets better ratings, and a proper reality show. And then KUWK would be about Kris, trying to keep up with her daughters. On her phone. Until it’s cancelled. Please, oh please!
Didn’t K recently sign a 10 year, $100 million contract for herself and her brood, or was I having a nightmare?
Maybe that was a renewal of her contract with Satan?
All three of his daughters have K or C names (he has a Cassandra). So I understand the name choice.
Her daughters.
The awkward moment when Kris realises that her ex is a prettier woman than her.
you win
And in tomorrow’s news, we will hear about how and why Caitlyn chose the arch in her eyebrow, the color of her hair and the length….
The more Caitlyn talks, the more I feel that it’s an attempt to bury the fact that Bruce killed a woman.
Wait, Caitlyn Jenner is hung up on superficial, sexist gender stereotypes? Well, knock me over with a surgically enhanced feather why dontcha? This is my exact problem with glorifying someone like her. The trans movement would benefit so much more from breaking down gender stereotypes. That trans kid in rural Kentucky who gets buillied by peers for being too “girly” would be be a lot better off if we stopped pushing people into neat little gender categories and just let everyone be who they are. What the hell is Caitlyn Jenner doing to help that kid?? Or the athletic girl who isn’t trans but wants to be taken seriously as a jock not a sex object?
^THIS!
+1
Agreed!!
+3, yes thank you! John Stewart nailed this issue on the Daily Show. I’m tired of this crazy hyper focus on looks, posing, make up, hair, clothes, shoes, etc..
I was discussing with my GFs that the name is super Undignified for her age and Very Mall/80s but now it makes total sense LOL
If I was in the position to pick a new name FWIW i would go with something that both could pass supreme court test YET be nicknamable
Would Bunny McSexbot pass the Supreme Court test?
Like Lyle Lovette, maybe?
For the record, I like “Justice QQ” just fine.
bwahahah Yall need a Room full of corners! For Time out
Well, I had hope for a Krystal Tootsie Jennerdollars. My hopes were dashed.
Now I can only wish for a Sofia Vegara – Caitlyn Jenner buddy movie about a Bev Hills mom and long lost vacation-love-child daughter escaping from the mob (Ryan, Kris) in hilarious ways. WIth Chris Pratt as the President of California, and Melissa McCarthy as the long lost other daughter who lives in a trailer of lust w Jason Stathem in the desert as part of their covert CIA-MI 5 cover on a special top secret assignment to save the world from an outbreak of Roswell drones carrying space disease, and who pitch in to help their mom Caitlyn and sister Sofia. Sofia and Melissa’s dad played by Bill Nighy. Theme song by Ed Sheeran.
Will nothing I wish for come true?
I’m really overtired, but Krystal Tootie Jennerdollars made me laugh far too hard.
This comment made me laugh way too much! Especially Jason Statham living in a love trailer with Melissa McCarthy! Speaking of which, I’m psyched to see their movie this weekend!
At the end of the day without the magic of professional photons, makeup, etc., Bruce will look like like a man in a dress.
I will give his docuseries a look see.
Feminizing features can difficult for many trans people. There’s only so much they can do.
Agreed.
By the time the interview comes out, I will have read the whole article. I wish Vanity Fair wasn’t leaking this so much over the internet in piecemeal fashion. It’s a very lengthy interview (22 pages, including photos) and I will be sick of it before it comes out. LOL
Thank the sweet Lord she did not pick Heather!
I was reading an article yesterday about how Caitlyn’s 4 children from previous marriages refused to be on her E show and their reasoning was that it would basically become a circus.
That if this is something that Bruce/Caitlyn needed to tell the world that there were better ways because with him working with the producers from the Kardashian show and still being in E’s control they felt it wouldn’t be respectful. That it would turn into a Jenner Vs. Kardashian show down and have cooked up drama.
It seemed telling to me that even with those four children showing him the logical truth and pleading with him he still went ahead. Tbh I still think she’s a jerk, I don’t think she really cares about other’s feelings, and I do think she’s already playing the game by making it about evil Kris and not the two previous divorces and abandoned children.
I think this is an attempt to play a storyline that the public will support —– Kris is the bad person. However, as much as I don’t like the entire bunch, I am starting to have a smudge of empathy for Kris. I think they all need to disappear from public life and sort out their self-created drama, but I think it is cheap to lay so much blame on her. He went along with it all for years as her spouse.
My 2 cents. Jenner may be a whiny, self-centered individual and absentee parent (whether due to inner conflict or just being that way) … but she is nearly the ideal person for this society to accept or even embrace as its first mass-culture trans-gendered person.
Who else could draw this kind of focus and who else could make it “safe” but a rich white blond Olympic gold-winning mega-athlete whose ‘masculinity’ (through physical achievement) was universally admired and who has visited American living rooms for years through a popular TV show (however trashy)?
If a team of sociologists were going to fabricate the kind of person who could break through in this way, it would have to be someone like Jenner. Only an icon could pull this off.
There’s often someone in public life who makes it safe and acceptable to discuss an uncomfortable topic (often related to gender or sexuality), much in the way Betty Ford talked about breast cancer and Magic Johnson shared his HIV/AIDS status. Jenner didn’t have a life-threatening disease (though being trans-gendered is a health risk given high suicide rates), but the length of time it took even her, with all her fame, fortune and achievement, to sort out how to transcend her “untouchable” status, makes it somewhat comparable – because people with cancer were once “untouchable,” as more recently were people with HIV/AIDS. (and as they still are in many parts of the world)
So, Jenner wasn’t and isn’t perfect, but Jenner is what we get. Whatever it takes. The real question is how many more will be able to safely follow, but there’s no question this is a watershed moment.
Yes, despite all her personal flaws, Jenner might actually make a difference. She has many years experience with public speaking, in addition to instant fame.
I’m still waiting for the Sports Illustrated cover, which would have been so much more appropriate than Vanity Fair. She seems to be assuming that the Kardashian twisted vision of being a woman is universal. Vanity Fair is a very Kardashian thing to do, especially that cover shot. Of course, Sports Illustrated is pretty much as twisted when it comes to women….
You win. I love this comment.
Who else but a rich blond Olympic gold-medalist universally admired for his athletic achievement as a male, who has routinely ‘appeared in’ American living rooms through a popular (however trashy) television show, could break through on this issue and find this level of media attention and embrace?
If a team of sociologists had to construct a public figure who could most successfully take something with “untouchable” status and wind up on the cover of Vanity Fair, it would have to be someone like Jenner. In the medical arena, Betty Ford talked about breast cancer (an ‘untouchable’ subject then for women) and Magic Johnston talked about HIV/AIDS (‘untouchable’ then and in many parts of the world still).
Jenner may be self-centered and a distant dad but there’s no doubt this is a watershed moment. The question is how many more will now be able to safely follow him on a journey from ‘untouchable’ status to full social acceptance and integration.
I give Jenner definitely credit in opening up on transgender. People who do not know, will read and learn if interested.
Otherwise, the transgender community is diverse as every other one.
Jenner´s emphasis on gender as being an overly sexually attractive woman is something I do not share.
I wish Bruce had gone with Catherine. Here is a list of most popular names in 1949 when Caitlyn was born.
1 Linda
2 Mary
3 Patricia
4 Barbara
5 Susan
6 Sandra
7 Nancy
8 Carol
9 Kathleen
10 Sharon
11 Karen
12 Donna
13 Brenda
Caitlyn is a very feminine name. Heather is too. I think that’s what she was going for.
Bruce is as self-centered and superficial as his third family. I have zero admiration for him. It’s all about him and his needs.
Yep
Caitlyn likes center stage — just like Bruce did. Some things never change…
Caitlyn IS Bruce, so of course she does.
Why do people think she got a personality or soul transplant or something? She’s the exact same person she was, but in a package that now looks more feminine.
It really bugs me that she – and reporters and commenters – are acting like she’s a brand new baby with a brand new personality, morals, and feelings. She’s the person she was before the “femininization surgery.” She just looks different now. (And publicly identifies differently.)
Because she keeps acting s if that’s the case.
Jenner was always on the look out for some way to extend his Olympic fame and not have to get a real job, he LOVED the attention Kris brought in their early marriage because he was very much on the wane. She boosted his profile and got him sponsorship and speaking gigs so he didn’t need to work. There’s a backlash against that lifestyle now so it’s all Kris and Bruce’s fault but Caitlyn is allegedly this honest pure person (who’s doing exactly the same kind of fame whoring)
He couldn’t be bothered with his older kids, which is something his previous wives confirmed started BEFORE he met Kris, she may not have helped but that was Bruce’s fault. Caitlyn is a wonderful person and expected her kids to fame whore on his new reality show (docu-series my ass) so he could “prove” that. When they didn’t want to be part of a circus she raged at them.
She was born a selfish narcissist and will die one but she acts as if her personality is a completely different one now.
This PR spin machine is in overdrive. No, you cannot pull the wool over my eyes and make me forget you just killed someone. If her case is still not settled, this makes me doubt her story even more. Who would want to put a poor little old Granny in jail? Versus the patriarch of the most polarizing family in the history of America? That is her motivation right there. The timing is HIGHLY suspicious.
What would be the best revenge to get back at a scorned lover, to ruin their life, and humiliate them for all eternity? What could possibly be worse than telling your ex your are gay? The treatment and abuse your endured from them over the course of your marriage has spawned a sex change?!! Can you trump that? Nope.
My parents had a horrible divorce right when I was at the same age at Kendall/Kylie. I am still traumatized by all the stress and heartache my parents caused trying to hurt each other & get even. Nobody wins. The only losers here are the children. I cannot even fathom how much more traumatizing the entire experience could have been had my Dad broadcast a sex change for the entire world to see. There is a lack of sensitivity and the selfish “look at me” nature in which this was handled that is very concerning. She is trying to outshine her daughters, even compete? Am I alone thinking she is exhibiting psychopathic behavior?
I fully support the LGBTQ community, but these are the evil K’s we are talking about here. Nothing is ever as it seems. The fact this story was released on a MONDAY morning tells me everything I need to know. To get the MAX media exposure you release big news on a Monday, that way you have the entire M-F news cycle of press (like today). On the flip-side, most high profile divorces are released to the media at the end of the day on a Friday afternoon. Late on a Friday, the news receives the least amount of media coverage. I guarantee you will see the Affleck divorce announcement broadcast on a Friday afternoon. WAKE UP PEOPLE. YOU ARE ALL BEING PLAYED!
It’s as if Bruce/Cailtlyn is saying, Kris how could you ever forget that I will always be the most famous one in the entire family? You think it’s Kim/Kendall? Really, well then watch this…..bitch
While Caitlyn is a lovely name, it’s a “young” name. Who else thinks it sounds kind of ridiculous on a person of her age/era? I agree with Jen43…Catherine would have been more fitting.
Yeah, I agree.
The young ones named Caitlyn today eventually will be applying for social security. There is nothing intrinsically young about it, just wasn’t a common name when her age group was young. Things change. She has a right to choose the name that suits her.
I think Caitlyn suits her very well! I’m sure she feels “reborn” right now so I agree she shouldn’t have to pick out a name that was popular when Bruce was born. I’m glad it’s not Belinda or Brenda or the like.
She does look like she could be on the mean girl cast of Heathers in that top photo.
(Full disclosure – my name is Heather but I was never a mean girl.)
I think C. is going to make a certain K. Jealous ! 😀
Well, if she likes it so much, she can still have ‘Heather’ for a middle name. She’s waited how long for this? Might as well do whatever she wants and be happy with it.
As Bruce said recently there is no ‘right’ way to do this. Public will find fault with whatever u do. I think he sees this transgender process as a way to maybe right all the wrongs of his life. Once the new wears off of the gender change, I am afraid he will find the same soul deep inside regardless of the shell. I think she will be as insensitive and callous as Bruce was and she will realize Bruce and Caitlyn are one and the same person. While the car accident resulted in a death it was still an accident and don’t agree with crucifying him for a multi vehicle pileup accident. Per usual, its the gossip sites and trash mags that are over saturating the public with Caitlyn just like they do with everything else.
i have NEVER watched the kardashians but have seen clips and snippets over the years. NONE of these people are without subterfuge. the one time i heard bruce speak he was telling kim she had a fat ass. how gross they all are. whether this transgendering is legit or a diversionary tactic or payback for years of spousal abuse, who gives a flying fig. i liken this to celebs who say they have cancer or some other horror to gain the spotlight and public sympathy (and don’t say they don’t do it). i am an advocate for the individuation process and no one is a stauncher defender of the pursuit of personal authenticity than I, but something about this seems so false. like they all brainstormed to come up with a new reality show for bruce and he, after decades of taking a back seat to the k girls, finally decided to become one.