The Donald Trump debacle continues. I can’t believe how much press Trump is getting – he’s really hit the sweet spot for the media, because this controversy is a business story, a media story, a celebrity gossip story and a political story. So let’s get on with it. To recap, when Trump announced he was running for president, he said most undocumented Mexicans are rapists and murderers. He said a lot of other horrible stuff, but the stuff about Mexicans and “illegals” was what got the ball rolling.
In the past two weeks, this is what’s happened: Univision dumped Trump’s Miss USA and Miss Universe properties; NBCUniversal fired Trump; advertiser Farouk Systems dumped Trump; Televisa dumped Trump’s pageant properties; Macy’s dumped Trump as a spokesperson; the city of New York is putting all of Trump’s city contracts under review; mattress maker Serta dumped him; NASCAR is done with their association with him and ESPN will be moving a golf tournament out of one of Trump’s golf clubs to a non-Trump club. I’m not even including all of the many people associated with the Miss Universe and Miss USA pageants who have all come out personally to say they have no interest in being associated with anything Trump-related. The NASCAR one especially has to hurt, right? As goes NASCAR, so goes middle America. Gawker compiled a comprehensive list of all the breakups – go here to see.
Even though Trump is being slammed across the board, financially, politically and by colleagues and employees, he’s actually doing okay in the polls. The latest polls for GOP presidential contenders have Trump in the #2 position (ha) behind Jeb Bush. Part of that might be name recognition, part of it might be Trump’s anti-immigrant message “landing” with a certain segment of the population, I don’t really know. But whatever is happening, it means that Trump will definitely be included in the first debates. And it will be epic, stupid and amazing. Trump is going to be attacked by people in his own party.
One of the latest breakups? The reigning Miss Universe, Paulina Vega, slammed Trump on her Instagram but she says she’s not giving up her crown. As you can imagine, Trump has already labeled her a “hypocrite.” I’m surprised he didn’t call her a rapist.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Who the f-k would vote for that idiot?!?
the sad part is a lot of people.. and that is more frightening than anything else.
They might want to vote for him but will never buy his crap and money talks above anything with this man
I knew I made a right choice by never buying or watching a Trump related item
He is a racist’s dream candidate and sorry but if you support him that’s what you are plain and simple. He could have absolutely addressed his concerns about immigration in a different manner but instead opted to inflame and further polarize the Country.
I truly hope that at the end of the 2016 election these companies still stay away from him.
White Arizonans and the idiots clinging to their made in China confederate flags, that’s who would vote for him!
@skyblue: your comment is as ignorant and offensive as some of the stuff Trump has been saying. I am white and live in Arizona and have no intentions of voting for him. I was also born and raised in the South and have never owned or displayed a Confederate flag. This broad brush you used to paint a certain demographic of people is a textbook example of the political polarity in this country. Especially disturbing is the vitriol associated with it. You just labeled a large segment of the population “idiots” for no logical reason I can see. Or at the very least, for no reason that you explained.
Newsflash: if people have differing views than you that doesn’t automatically make them racist, bigoted, idiots, or any of the other labels I see so carelessly thrown around on political posts in this (and other) blogs.
My brother in law. At the last family bbq, he said Trump is what this country needs.
My husband mocked him endlessly and he didn’t even realize it. Loud & clueless seems to be his demographic.
another variation of the Loud and Clueless is the Strong and Wrong… Both are his tribe, the way they probably see it is: well It’s either Prolapsed Anus Mouth Trump or Dick Face Cruz
Well, I can’t unsee this, QQ. Your evocative words + Trump’s screamy baby face = guess I’m starting that diet today. 😉
My co-worker. She thinks he is great. She also thinks Sarah Palin is smart and that Glenn Beck is telling the truth about America.
Just to put things into perspective.
Terrifying.
Are you talking a out my sister, Jenns?
Proof that republicans are stupid. Goodgod.
Nobody will vote for this moron. He has been fired more than anyone-ever. This steaming bag of turds needs to go.
Oh, people will vote for him. But that’s okay; his votes are right there along with the Palin votes. Let them vote for him – let them water down the pool of votes that actually do count.
I can’t believe it!! He’s no. 2??? I’m in shock, seriously, that anyone would even consider voting for him.
Me too. I really hate to think that he could be an option for so many people after what he said. It makes me a bit queasy.
The idiots who voted for George W. Bush?
Look at THAT PHOTO, there’s a clue: Angry-over-the-hill-white-(or orange)-bald-guys(with-bad-toupees-plugs-or-combovers)-who-are-all-about-greed.
ETA: And UGLY TIES.
It’s like he’s permanently in Technicolor.
But seriously, why the f*ck does he look like that?
He thinks he looks good Kitten.
the orange colored face always gets me…he applies it SO poorly…there’s a circle of white around each eye, and you can see the “line” where he stops right at the ear. can he NOT afford a make up artist to teach him? and what about his wife?…wasn’t she a model? or was she a mail-order?
It’s like trying to create a new race.
HEY THAT TIE IS INNOCENT! I really like that tie. In fact, I was pondering to myself how on earth can someone have such good taste in suits and yet that same person have NO IDEA about personal grooming (the hair! the tan!) and also no political sense to keep their terrible thoughts carefully hidden from the public.
But seriously, I really like that tie!
Certain foolish family members of mine will… ugh.
I have a family member who wrote in Palins name for President sooo…. yeah, there are definitely people willing to vote for complete idiots.
Check out the Breitbart website. They think he walks on water.
The fact that the Republican Party has embraced him says so much about them. The Democrats need to just sit back and let this play out.. sit back and let this man become the face of the party.. It will be the best political strategy that you could hope for.
I agree that the Republicans are just shooting themselves in the foot by taking him at all seriously. Very damaging. I can’t stand Hillary, but even I would hold my nose and vote for her before this moron. What is WRONG with people??
@GoodNamesAllTaken – I completely agree, this is very damaging. As is the Republican candidates’ incessant need to bash gay marriage and make threats to ban it as soon as they’re in power; the constant talk about uprooting the ACA without actually talking about a viable plan to put in it’s place; and the constant uproar about some fictitious assault on Christianity all because gay people aren’t being forced to cower in a corner anymore. I’m not a Republican but I’m an independent voter so I have no problem with the Republican party for the most part, but things are getting a little appalling and right now, I just can’t see how a Republican presidency is possible in 2016. It’s like they aren’t even trying to be moderate, are taking a hardline to be as conservative as possible, and fostering the most ridiculous viewpoints. The majority of the population is pro-gay marriage and marijuana, so the hardline stance opposing these issues is really pandering to a small percentage of the population and this is not a positive thing.
I can’t stand Hillary and I’m still hoping that someone else throws their hat in the ring, but every time I begin to feel positive about a Republican candidate there is some new dumb comment made that is another instance of them shooting themselves in the foot.
I think this is the best thing that could have happened to the Republican side of the race, if you are a Democrat. If you’re Clinton or Sanders, all you have to do is literally stand there, and — by default — you’re 200% smarter and more competent by comparison.
@quantum entanglement – I don’t think it is fair to say that the Republican candidates are dumb or incompetent. I think they’re out of touch and appealing to a small, limited percentage of the population and this is a bad thing for the entire country. We don’t want to live in a country with only ONE political party because that is no longer a democracy. We should ALL want the Republican party to join the 21st century and get their act together and stop acting as if they’re a group of hateful, narrow-minded people because we need dissenting views and that is what our country is based on. People are always going off on tangents about how they hate the Republican party and hope they fold, but you know what country has a single-party system? China. And we certainly don’t need to go that route.
I’m a Democrat who votes independently, and I would love to see the Republicans get real because too much of one thing is not a good thing for anyone.
The Republican party has not embraced them. Ugh…..There are about 50 people running for the GOP nomination. The 2 at the top have the highest name ID. While it will be fun to have Trump in a debate or two, he is not going to be the nominee. The sad thing is that after his offensive comments, he actually came up with a fairly plausible plan to deal with the illegals currently in the country. That, however, didn’t get any play because all anyone wants to talk about is the drug dealer/rapist comment. He supported a path to citizenship, with a fairly plausible way to do so. Just because the messenger is bad, doesn’t mean all of his ideas are bad. He’s a moron for sure, but he won’t be the nominee and some of his thoughts may actually move the debate in a positive direction.
The fact that he came up with a plausible plan AFTER he disparaged a whole group of people makes him unpalatable to those of us with common sense. As a president, he won’t be able to disparage a whole country and then seek to make peace (in a war situation, for instance).
He’s not going to be President. People need to relax. He’s not even going to be a nominee.
Its not really about whether people need to relax.
Running for President is serious business, the funds and amount of time put in for a goal of being chief executive of a nation…when people sign up for that you take them for their word even if their word is nonsense.
Trump called a bunch of people who are sick of constantly being lambasted as the worst of the worst rapists, folks were going to be angry and it was going to blow up. The fact he continued to double down on his comments until it really started to hurt his wallet is a matter of public record.
I’m happy he got some one to draft him a reasonable immigration plan after the fact but the reality is the #2 Republican Hopeful shoved his foot so deep into his mouth its tickling his kidneys. That’s a news story for everyday of the week until something bigger happens.
Here’s what I think it boils down to. There is a VERY angry group of people being ignored by both parties, but one is using psychological warfare. This group includes middle class (generally lower end) white males who actually do not have much in the way of representation. Being in the middle, they are squeezed financially to foot the bill for tax cuts above and social programs below. They want to associate with the upper class instead of contemplating falling downward to working class or poor status, and often buy into ‘the poor are sapping resources while immigrants are stealing jobs’ narrative. It’s much easier to kick (down at) the dog when you get home, since he’s not in a position to fight you, rather than punching up toward the manager at work. The Republicans feed on this fear of falling by planting blame on ‘others’. The Democrats offer NOTHING toward this group in terms of engagement. No one, in actuality, really does care about them, they are in the middle, where the highest % of taxes are paid, relative to income and wealth. Not all people feel this way, but this is the traditional family man as provider, feeling threatened about losing that status and ability.
That goes for anyone in the middle class, really. That’s been the national debate for decades now. Every new candidate comes out and says s/he’s going to help the middle class, but no one ever does. Instead, there are more tax cuts for the rich and more social programs for the poor. Meanwhile, if you’re smack in the middle, you can’t get food stamps, you can’t get really affordable insurance, you can’t get help with child care, you don’t get much in the way of child credits (on taxes), you have an alternate minimum tax (so you can’t max out your deductions) – being in this “angry” and very annoyed group (albeit not white or a male), I could go on for days.
And, yes, while it gets annoying when people who don’t work (sometimes by choice) get welfare and free health care and even a free cell phone (!!), I’d much rather give my money to those “in need” than to corporations whose CEOs are making millions of dollars. Basically, there’s no real remedy for the ills of this country.
That is a pretty amazing and detailed as well as probably entirely accurate representation of who are these folks who vote against their own self interest
That’s a really good analysis and it applies in most Western capitalist democracies, its not just the States, it’s everywhere. In the UK these far right idiots spout broadly the same message, immigrants, the poor, the disadvantaged are all freeloaders whose circumstances are all entirely their own fault – nothing to do with economics, international wars, the massive divide between the very rich and everybody else that’s now as wide here was in the 1920’s. Our government is getting ready to cut Tax Credits for working families whilst at the same time refusing to limit the pay of the Bankers who caused the financial crash in the first place. When the Bankers who deliberately rigged the Libor (International interest rates) get off without even being charged for their criminal activities you know the whole system is screwed.
@Kiddo – I agree with a lot of what you said, but not this part:
“They want to associate with the upper class instead of contemplating falling downward to working class or poor status, and often buy into ‘the poor are sapping resources while immigrants are stealing jobs’ narrative. It’s much easier to kick (down at) the dog when you get home, since he’s not in a position to fight you, rather than punching up toward the manager at work.”
My dad 100% fits the description of what you mentioned; he is a working-class guy who will never be able to retire and his income puts him in the middle class range. He does have a tendency to lean toward conservative views in a lot of ways, but not because it’s easier to kick down at the dog instead of punching toward the manager, and not because he’s afraid of losing his position and ability in society because frankly, he doesn’t have one. My dad is also not concerned in the least with associating with the upper class, and I don’t think most working class men really care at all about this. Republicans have always been traditionally been “the rich party,” which means they’re definitely not for my dad, but being a working class guy who has worked so hard for every single dollar earned, he has a problem with social programs that provide for people who don’t try to work and how many people scam the system. My father, like most in the middle class, is extremely bothered by how many able-bodied Americans scam the system to sit at home and receive a check. I believe this is why the majority of these “average guys” end up voting for a party that doesn’t suit them at all.
Unfortunately, if we’re totally honest with ourselves, there really is no “good guy” party. Neither Democrats or Republicans care about the average person, or the middle class. As @Santia noted, the option is really either choosing to support people on welfare who are often totally able-bodied, giving out free cell phones, etc etc. or giving money to CEOS for big corporations. When given the option between the 2, I think a lot of the hardworking, average guys prefer the latter because at least it goes to people who are employed. No matter what party is in office, it is the middle class, average person who foots the bill. Whether we’re putting money in the pockets of big business or the poor, the middle class’ taxes are paying for it. There is no one looking out for this group, and I honestly don’t know if that’ll ever change. The anger comes from working hard your whole life and having a huge chunk of your money going to things you don’t want it to go to, and it doesn’t matter who you vote for, because everyone lies and says they’ll look out for you, but no one ever comes through on that promise. The middle class has been stretched way too thin. Taxes get higher and higher to pay for crap no working class person wants, things that don’t benefit them to begin with. People who have worked their whole lives contributing large sums to social security are being told it might not be there for them, largely because of how many people scam the system and receive a check of money they never even earned. There are a lot of reasons to be angry.
Can we please stop acting like the only people who fit this description are white men? Because my dad works with plenty of African Americans and Latinos who share this sentiment. I also have a large Cuban family who shares this sentiment.
@Michelle-You should tell your father that 91% of people on Welfare are elderly, disabled, or working households.
The idea that every person getting government assistance is “gaming the system” is a complete and utter myth that’s been trotted out by the GOP for decades now. It’s an untruth that works for them because keeping the American public angry at the poor and-at the very least-neutral towards the rich is a great way to sustain the oligarchy that they so covet.
Same with your father’s-concerns about social security disappearing. Myth. Like Santa Claus. Not real. But it’s a powerful myth, one that is used for political advantage and your father is a great example of how well it works. Scare tactics–the only thing the GOP knows.
Social Security is currently in surplus and will take in more than it pays out until at least 2037.
ETA: I meant to add that ITA with Kiddo’s post completely. You knocked it out of the ballpark with your analysis.
@Michelle hit the nail on the head.
There are plenty of people not working so hard at the top, who are also scamming the system, but they get a MUCH BIGGER share of the scam. In fact, they pay for policies and the representatives on both sides. I called neither side heroes. But if you look at the wealth disparity around the world, those under the 1% get very little of what the top does, no matter HOW HARD they work. THAT is where the system is rigged.
I forgot to add TRUMP HIMSELF. He gets HUGE tax breaks for his businesses, he has had taxpayers foot the bill for infrastructure around HIS businesses and has gone bankrupt SEVERAL TIMES. Talk about gaming the system. HE assumes much less risk than the average man, He uses other people’s money as in creditors, and when it falls apart, who do you think is the first on that list NOT TO GET paid when the business goes under? That’s right, the working class or middle class subcontractors who don’t have attorneys on the payroll or connections in politics and wealth.
Compare millions (in taxpayer money for Trump) to thousands, when you are talking about the poor. And they aren’t getting rich, being poor, with subsidies.
@kiddo i said the same thing about Trump on another site. People think he is a financial genius. He HAS gone bankrupt or at least been saved by his business partners because those partners would been bankrupt by Trumps business practices.
I believe Trump is marketing gold – he clearly sells himself quite well. People buy his smoke and mirrors act. I remember when he first came on the scene. He would put his name or giant T’s on everything. So gaudy and ugly. I was done when he first announced he was building Trump Tower. I was shocked at all of the wealthy people who seemed to be chomping at the bit to get an apartment. All I could think was how tacky the building would be. All glitz and no glamour. All these years later and I still feel the same. Won’t go inside or even walk on the same side of the street. I find it and he to be garish.
I know his kids love him but he is a vile human being. I wonder what he will do with all that campaign money if he isn’t selected. Because you know he isn’t giving it back.
@Kitten – I’m not going to tell my dad anything. Everyone is entitled to their own political views and opinions and that is what makes America great. The numbers that you’re throwing around have been contested by both sides of the aisle, and even so, I’m not saying I agree with my dad’s sentiment, all I was saying is that for the most part the middle class foots the bill for absolutely everything and THIS is why they’re disgruntled and make the choices they do in the voting booth. Every working class man that I know has serious disdain for people who don’t work and are able-bodied. Whether they’re right or wrong for how they feel is another story.
Gaming the system? No, I don’t think so. Heaven forbid your father ever becomes disabled and needs handouts. This American view of intake care of myself and no one else is the downfall of this country. Community is very important for our success as te human race. Other cultures readily understand this. We need to, as a community, help care for our neighbors. Whenever I hear this argument, I pray that individual finds themselves in a situation where they truly need help. My father was the same way his entire life. That is, until he got very sick, lost everything, and couldn’t even get medical care to keep him alive. Now he spouts off about how medical care should be a right available to everyone. My entire life, he might as well been Trump just more ignorant and more racist. People’s views can change and I don’t see how anyone can be proud to work until they die. Sounds like a life of poor decisions to me.
Number 2 in the polls, sure. Number 2 equals s@@t. The jokes write themselves here
That is certainly correct!
He is a #2 in all of our hearts
LOL
Yesterday i read that Trump has Mexican “illegals” working on the Trump tower or the construction of a new tower or something. This guy is such a hack.
Apparently all the ‘good’ Mexicans who aren’t crossing our borders are busy sewing up his suits in factories to ship to the U.S. When people called him out on it he said he never wanted his suits to be made there and he wishes there was something he could do…
The man who wants to pretend he can’t figure anyway for his suits to be made in the U.S. wants folks to believe he has a plan for immigration and leading this country??
Yeah…most people like loud mouths, arrogant know it alls like Mr Trump, sadly
Isn’t that the truth!!
The worst part about Trump is that he makes the other Republican candidates look reasonable in comparison. In truth, they’re as bigoted and horrible as him, just with more polish.
Was the poll conducted in the Ooompa Loompa district?
Indeed:, http://images.teamsugar.com/files/users/1/13254/13_2007/oomp.jpg
Yeah he’s a moron, and money talks in politics, but the corporate media have been falling over themselves to give this blowhard of zero integrity a platform for years. Why is anyone calling themselves a journalist or even news-adjacent infotainment reporter not dismissing Donald Trump? He should have been roundly exiled from politics, news, and polite society years ago.
This is only good news for Democrats! As we all know, Trump is just doing this for attention and has zero intention of actually running. He’s turning the Republican Party into a circus for his own gain and will just back out in a few months when the damage is already done.
It’s amazing and I can’t take my eyes off it.
You know what I would be afraid of? Its socially incorrect to agree with Trump out loud but quietly, a lot of people are doing it…they just aren’t posting it on facebook though the whole shooting thing in san francisco is bringing out the braver trump fans in the WASPy section of my friends list.
look at the british election, none of the polls put cameron back in office but somehow he won… people just wouldn’t admit liking him. I say don’t underestimate Trump’s appeal despite all this.. (not that he would win nationally. i mean come on, this is America…not ‘murica.)
You just sent chills down my spine. Omg, what if he WINS? I’m moving.
Scary to think about.
But I still have faith in my fellow Americans that we’re not that stupid.
Or are we? O_o
Nah, from over here I really can’t see Trump as POTUS and as others have pointed out, in a way he’s a good thing, he may well mobilize all the opposition needed from the many decent people who loathe him and all he stands for.
@ Goodnames, well I was going to Scotland but now I’m seriously considering Canada!
I agree with how easy it is to allow extremists into power (see Germany in the first half of the twentieth century, for example), but in the British example, David Cameron was an incumbent, which gave him a giant leg up. In my opinion, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Jeb Bush and the rest of the Serious Candidates on the GOP side are way more dangerous.
I think you will like what you see in Canada once you move =D. Fair warning though, Canada is having an election in October, so King Stephen and his merry band of Conservatives might be reelected, so you might want to wait.
I keep saying Obama should move up North and run for office here once his term ends – it would be great to get rid of Steven once and for all… I am seriously concerned for our next election, because so far I don’t think the Liberals are strong enough to take over.
Yes, people are using the San Francisco shooting as a “Trump was right” movement. However, I need receipts. How many shootings/killings/rapings are done by Mexican/Latino immigrants, as opposed to good old Americans? I can bet you the number is minimal. Also, how many shootings/killings/rapings are done by Anglo/European immigrants (or do they not count as “illegals” because they can blend in)? ‘Cause in my industry, I see a lot of crime by Albanian and Russian immigrants. Last, I’d like to see statistics on immigrants that have come in, taken a path to citizenship and become productive members of society. Only then would I even consider giving Trump’s “pulled out of his butt” arguments any credence.
Santia – I think that statistics are exactly what we need. To degrade an entire people, like Trump did, is unforgivable: we know where he stands. Hopefully, he has put a big hole in the Republican argument about immigration.
the statistics, which Trump (and O’Reilly, and other defenders) doesn’t mention, show that American-born people are MORE likely to commit a crime than an immigrant. prison population stats back that up, too.
Salon has a story on it. and Geraldo Rivera, of all people, cited those stats on that stupid Kelly woman’s show.
As someone that went through it the ‘path to citizenship’ is a long convoluted road of bullshit and excess costs. It’s hard and it’s extremely time-consuming.
Can you imagine him taking part in diplomatic negotiations? He’s waaay too much of a blowhard to represent this country in an effective way. He’d be all loud-mouth, guns, bigotry, and destroyed international relationships.
If he was elected, we’d be an international joke.
Newsflash: Mr. Obama is a international joke.
Still an improvement over Dubbs though.
Although, we didn’t have anywhere to go but up after that debacle, right?
Jama most other countries think Obama is pretty great overall actually.
The world sees Obama as a weakling.
Between Greece and president Trump, Angela Merkel would hit the bottle.
Sod Angela Merkel, I’d hit the bottle and I’m teetotal!
That’s fine. Let him be #2 – he’s a sack of sh-t so it’s fitting. The higher he climbs in the polls the more he’ll galvanize people to vote against him.
Every election cycle I think the GOP clown car can’t get any bigger and every time they prove me wrong. I used to work in politics, specifically in elections, so I should be numb to this sort of thing. Alas.
This year it’s less of a clown car and more of a clown bus.
The scariest thing about Trump is that he makes the REALLY frightening candidate, Scott Walker, look calm by comparison. Scott Walker has just tried to sneak a law reversing public access to our State government dealings open records! No other state in the nation has done this. He sneaks frightening changes into state budget, and hopes they won’t be caught until too late. It’s horrible. He’s divided our state.
Trump distracts us from looking at these other maniacs and seeing who they really are.
Scott Walker=Eddie Haskell (ok, ok, I’m dating myself, but it’s true)
Scott Walker belongs in the slammer, full stop. I think his days are numbered before he faces corruption charges.
One more thing: “Trump distracts us from looking at these other maniacs and seeing who they really are.” THIS TIMES A MILLION. Trump is a slap in the face to democracy on two counts: one, I don’t think he’s running in good faith; I think he’s running to line up speaking gigs for himself as a Serious Businessman. Two, when we pay attention to the antics of this overheated circus clown, we are not having a substantive discussion on the problems Americans face, which means we are nowhere near discussing solutions.
I read about that. Scott Walker is really scary. I feel for you Wisconsin. He seems all about limiting the publics rights. Don’t want to think about what he would do as President.
Mollie, can you or any other Wisconsinite explain to me how Scott Walker has been elected 3 times in the previous, what, 5 years? This guy is really bad news and I just don’t understand how he remains in office. I’m not trying to be snarky. I would really like to know. He’s just as bad as Trump but somehow gets away with it with his, as you called it, Eddie Haskell demeanor.
Ugh, I’m not surprised he’d be number two for them, quite a few people in that party feel some kind of way about brown people….
Trump may be a lot of things, but he’s certainly not an idiot and his supporters are not ALL idiots. You may not like what he says but at least he OWNS what he says and doesn’t apologize because it’s politically incorrect or Macy’s doesn’t want to sell his clothes anymore. Most politicians backflip the minute they get some negative ratings. Not to worry, he’ll never get elected.
Nah, his supporters are all idiots. He may be an under-medicated hack, but his supporters are ALL idiots. Trump is also not a politician.
Exactly. He’s never held any position in political office. All of the candidates ,except Ben Carson, are all seasoned politicians.
Have to agree with S, there’s too many levels on which Trump is a joke for his supporters to not be idiots.
This isn’t about Democrat vs. Republican, this is a segment of the population looking at a foaming-at-the-mouth orange hypocrite with more fallacies than you can shake a stick at and thinking he’s got any valuable points.
He doubles down because he’s too stubborn to back down and reconsider his position, not because he’s really thought through a position and stands firm by it. The suits that Macy won’t sell…made by Mexicans in a Mexican factory. Not to mention the man has frequently lied about how every company that’s dumped him has secretly apologized and stands by him only for the companies to publicly and loudly proclaim they haven’t and never will. That’s a recipe for disaster if he were given any real power.
He may not be an idiot but his supporters 100% are.
And taking an idiotic position and refusing to admit that you’ve made a mistake is THE definition of being an idiot. And he’s backed away from his original comments; only he’s done it in this typical idiotic blowhard way, so people don’t say that he is backing away to be politically correct. Or am wrong that I’ve heard him say several times since his original comments how much he loves the Mexican people?
We live in a country that has glorified the Duggars, Kardashians, Real Housewives of Wherever, USA, stupid shows like The Bachelor, Duck Dynasty, The Bachelorette, Married at First Sight, Naked and Afraid, Dating Naked, ad nauseum…people who watch this crap are the true idiots.
Agreed that those people are idiots. So are Trump followers.
Last time I checked, political correctness and blatant racism were not the same.
Just wait until primaries and the other candidates start pointing out Trumps foreign born wife! As if those same voters who support him now would let someone with an accent be First Lady. ha!
And “family values” – yay – but you’re on your 15th wife. Each one younger than the last.
Trump will never be a viable candidate because he will never do the required financial disclosures and let people see the billionaire he is NOT!
I had said the same thing…he’ll power along until the time comes for the financial disclosure requirement and then he’ll drop out citing some “personal” reasons.
meanwhile, he’s damaged his “brand” pretty badly.
The thing is Doofus (that name *chuckles*) is that his brand has taken a hit but he is not out. If a Republican makes it to the white house, I believe he will be taken care of. As someone stated above, this is entertaining us while others are being ignored. We are looking at the pretty ball.
Also, his adult children are suspiciously quiet. I mean Ivanka is always in the society page and slickhead junior is always running his mouth on social media. Huh.
Although I completely disagree with Trumps views and have never been a fan of his past comments, I find it hypocritical that all these companies are dumping him, which they should, but none the less hypocritical when most of them deal with sweatshops, Macy especially, when so many things are wrong with the world and they can take a stand against real tyranny , they pick Trump the idiot.
Yes, a million times. And if it hadn’t been for the fact that he’s in the public eye as a presidential candidate, I don’t think Macy’s or anyone else would have been in such a rush to dump him.
This is great. let’s let the GOP destroy itself with loony candidates like Trump. Expose them!
I’ve never understood him being hailed as some totem of business acumen, when his company(ies?) have filed for bankruptcy numerous times. Ask his creditors how business savy he is. Re his comments- say what you will, but such comments play to the “base” of who turns out for Republican primaries- and candidates need to win primaries in order to attract $$$ and more importantly, narrow the field. Expect more of the same, if not worse, into the fall and winter.
Trump is sort of the tea-party dream. A successful white/orange man who’s a self-made businessman (who just happened to inherit most of his wealth from his Father, lost a significant portion of it, filed bankruptcy multiple times, and employed immigrants to help support his businesses so he can get the goods on the cheap and mark them up).
White/orange man LMFAOOOO
Not self made. His father made Trump money from real estate. Another disingenuous statement. Trump talks a good game and is louder than the rest. People buy into his hype and when the business goes bad and the smoke clears they are left holding the bag.
Cran, that’s what The Eternal Side-Eye said. He’s a ball of lies who looks god to the Republicans on the outside.
That poll data means next to nothing at this very early stage. People don’t really know most of the republican candidates yet, and DT is a name everyone knows. Trust me, Trump doesn’t have a shot.
Lock in Bush v Clinton IMO.
When my kids get a bit too crazy I often say “President Bush has called for calm” So at least if Jeb gets in it’ll be topical again.
Trump is attempting to become America’s first orange president.
yeah, he’s going to do wonders for oompa-loompa representation.
He would never win the election – he won’t even get nominated, but it’s easy to understand why he’s popular. He (at least for now) tells you what he really thinks, whether you like it or not – a refreshing change from habitual prevaricators like Hilary – and he’s too wealthy to be bought. Those two qualities right there put him ahead of most of the pack.
I think you are right. And while I would never vote for him, and I certainly cringed mightily at his talking points and the ignorance of how he messaged it, he did make two summary statements that resonate with many: The border is a disgrace and (the leadership of) Mexico is no friend to the USA.
I think it was around the time that he started called Rosie a disgusting pig that I stopped taking this man seriously. What kind of grown a$$ man talks that way? Anyway, I figured I would broach this subject with this group because in general, this lot seems fairly liberal (just going by the comments and the articles written). Okay, so here goes.
The situations that many people are escaping to come here to the US is very sad. However, at what point do we say no more? Since our borders are not secure, at all, how are we distinguishing between the regular folks and the criminals? It kinda seems like we’re not. Do we just let everyone that wants to come to the US stay here? I’ve never quite understood why we cater to Mexico. Is it because we share a border with them and don’t want to piss off one of our neighbors/allies? And yes, I know that there are people coming from other countires as well.
While I consider Trump to be a complete idiot, who else is speaking loudly against illegal immigration? There is definitely a part of the population that is pissed off that nothing is being done about it. I don’t think this makes those people hicks, or ignorant. I’m kind of sick of the fact that if someone says “Oh illegal immigration is a problem in this country.” The response is “Oh, you must be Republican.” or racist.
Speaking as an immigrant and now citizen I’m going to explain this issue pretty simply but in a way that I think the broad point gets across.
Your citizenship process is too lengthy, too complicated, costs too much money and time and ultimately is too convoluted to ever be successful. Period. If significant changes are not made to this process then this problem will. keep. happening.
I compare this to the issue of television piracy in other countries. We always hear about how certain regions have the highest amounts of illegal downloads and how it’s such a problem for different television networks…what doesn’t get a load of attention is the fact the networks themselves have made it excessively and increasingly difficult for people in certain regions (such as Australia) to legally have access to their shows at the same time as their American counterparts. When you make the legal channel for something too difficult, annoying, or illogical people don’t wait twiddling their thumbs. They do things illegally.
It’s a light comparison but the general idea is there. These are people who are at genuine risk of being murdered if they stay in their country. They’re not risking life and limb to come to a country where they’re treated like dirt and mocked because it’s fun. The system that was supposed to help them isn’t and they don’t always have the luxury of waiting till next week/month/year for all legal channels to eventually work out when they could be slaughtered in the interim.
Without fixing the path to immigration and citizenship the U.S. whining is much like the networks who don’t want people to illegally watch their shows but won’t give them a reasonable legal option either.
+1
I often wonder how much the foaming-at-the-mouth anti-immigration people have actually examined how hard it is to move to another country. Or how much easier immigration was for their ancestors, or even their parents or grandparents generations. Immigration laws are a mess in the best of scenarios (and I’m not saying it should be a walk in the park or anything), but the more complex, expensive and time-consuming, even the most patient, honest and well-intentioned people can resort to desperate measures.
This. And thank you Hogtown. People are not risking their lives, leaving families and their countries behind for YEARS just to come to the U.S. and be treated like crap, work seven days a week and sleep in shifts in overcrowded apartments on a whim. Periodically a story will appear about Americans who are helping illegal immigrants who they have come across in the desert providing them with food and water because they are dying after being dumped by traffickers or having made it somehow on their own.
I’m not suggesting there are not real border issues but a wall will not solve them. A working immigration program will help.
The point at which you’re prepared to pay your agricultural and construction and cleaning etc etc labourers the (already hideously low) minimum wage. Until that time, you are ALL benefiting for undocumented residents (people are not illegal) so it’s hypocritical to whine about it.
This as well. It’s like the people who complain about Mexicans and the drug cartels, or in another way as joke:
Q. Why did the illegal immigrant cross the border with drugs?
A. To sell them to the American who wanted to buy them.
Supply and demand, we have to change the complete structure of the country to eliminate the need for illegal immigrants to desperately come here.
Agricultural workers come in legally through a “H” visa program, their jobs are now taken by the undocumented. We know the story of construction workers and my grandmother was a housekeeper at one of the world’s most exclusive colleges. In the past we ate, built buildings and cleaned so why believe that we can no longer do these things without illegal labor?
Dude looks like an Oompalompa with an interesting haircut.
In all seriousness though, we are taking in more than we can handle with illegal immigrants. In fact, I just saw a news story on an illegal Mexican immigrant who took the life of a man. This criminal had been deported twice already for crime committed, and it was his third time coming to America illegally. I’m not picking on Mexicans, it’s just that a lot of crime and drug trafficking is coming from our unsafe, open borders. No one knows if we’re taking in an illegal criminal or a victim trying to escape crime. These people are also using up all of our resources and putting a strain on the middle class. We can’t continue to take in everybody like this. We need to secure our borders now. This situation is out of hand.
Speaking as an immigrant and now citizen I’m going to explain this issue pretty simply but in a way that I think the broad point gets across.
Your citizenship process is too lengthy, too complicated, costs too much money and time and ultimately is too convoluted to ever be successful. Period. If significant changes are not made to this process then this problem will. keep. happening.
I compare this to the issue of television piracy in other countries. We always hear about how certain regions have the highest amounts of illegal downloads and how it’s such a problem for different television networks…what doesn’t get a load of attention is the fact the networks themselves have made it excessively and increasingly difficult for people in certain regions (such as Australia) to legally have access to their shows at the same time as their American counterparts. When you make the legal channel for something too difficult, annoying, or illogical people don’t wait twiddling their thumbs. They do things illegally.
It’s a light comparison but the general idea is there. These are people who are at genuine risk of being murdered if they stay in their country. They’re not risking life and limb to come to a country where they’re treated like dirt and mocked because it’s fun. The system that was supposed to help them isn’t and they don’t always have the luxury of waiting till next week/month/year for all legal channels to eventually work out when they could be slaughtered in the interim.
Without fixing the path to immigration and citizenship the U.S. whining is much like the networks who don’t want people to illegally watch their shows but won’t give them a reasonable legal option either.
I don’t profess to know anything about how people become a citizen here and I’m certainly not agreeing with Trump when I say the following. But Canada has an EXTREMELY difficult process just to simply move there and work, let alone become a citizen. You have to have an education, pass an English/French exam, a physical, a criminal background check, and have at least $20,000 settlement money to get into the country. They do this because they want people to come there only if they have something to contribute to their society, and that’s one reason why they have a way more peaceful one than we do here in the US.
They also don’t share a border with any region with serious issues in nearly all areas of its government and society. America shares a border with Mexico, their immigration issues will be different.
Immigrants who fear for their lives are going to head to whatever region is easiest and closest to get to, many of the people on this path don’t have a lot of money to throw around for first class accommodations. Sometime this means boarding onto boats knowing the risks of sinking, packed together till its only standing room, with little to no food. Sometimes this means crossing a land border when they could be shot on either side of the line. In either case they will be treated like scum once they arrive.
Again, we’re looking at people who don’t have the option of waiting where they are and when they get to America don’t have a logical and simple process to become a legal citizen. It’s assuming that the people here (many of whom are working for US citizens for less than minimum wage with no benefits) don’t want to actually become citizens.
We can’t use the resources of a region (or rather we shouldn’t) and expect to turn our backs and ignore the issues we contribute to.
Saw that story as well. Also that her family does not want her death to be used for political purposes. The only reason that story is getting so much airtime is because it is being politicized.
The murderer was also homeless yet I don’t recall seeing any stories or hearing any politicians or Trump rearing his orange self up to attack homeless people and how they are rapists and drug dealers. But then that doesn’t fit their narrative.
What is happening is exactly what Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote about in Time Magazine last week. Trump doesn’t have a single shot in hell of ever being president – he knows that and so do we. He is being kept alive in the polls because he is ENTERTAINMENT. He’s a total caricature of what a human being is supposed to be and people enjoy laughing at him and simply want to give him a forum to continue embarrassing himself. He will never win a primary or the presidency, so don’t read so much into these nonsensical “polls” they always conduct that consist of maybe ten fringe people and lead people to believe they represent millions.
The odd thing about Trump is that he was a long standing democrat up until just a few years ago.
How can he be so anti-immigrants when wife #1 & #3 are immigrants? And his daughter Ivanka married into quite the conservative albeit affluent Jewish family? How does he scream Murica?
What is “Murica”? And what does Ivanka’s Jewish husband have to do with anything? Wow.
Illegal and legal immigration are two different subjects despite the attempts to blur the line between the two for political points.
Let me think.
Trump or Jeb Bush!…..Trump or Jeb Bush!.
OMG! OMG!
You may not have to worry about it. If Trump is too alienated by the Republican party (or vice versa) ….he could run as a 3rd party candidate and the end result will be what happened to Bush #1 with Ross Perot–eg, pulling enough votes away from Republicans to skew the outcome toward the democrats. Trump knows he can’t win, and he is doing this for fun. He’s enjoying saying exactly what he thinks. And by the way….all everyone is doing is concentrating on his idiotic criminal/illegal immigrant comments. If you listen to him about China and Russia and USAs bad negotiation teams — well, he has good points.