Here are some photos of Caitlyn Jenner out last night in LA – she went to dinner with friends, apparently, and the outing followed a lunch date with Candis Cayne, a transgender actress. I kind of like Caitlyn’s outfit here, especially the slacks. I would wear those pants. I know that makes me uncool, but I loathe the skinny jeans & jeggings trend and I’ve always had a thing for well-cut black trousers. Anyway, Caitlyn is probably trying to get some attention these days as promotion for her E! reality show, I Am Cait. I covered the premiere episode on Monday – while I think Caitlyn will do a lot of good and I respect her journey, I also thought she came across as constantly searching for validation. Validation that she’s not really getting from the ratings for I Am Cait!
All the fanfare surrounding Caitlyn Jenner’s primetime debut did not translate to a ratings bonanza for I Am Cait, RadarOnline.com has learned. Insiders say that Caitlyn is now “upset” the show was a disappointment, and irritated that she didn’t trounce her ex, Kris Jenner!
The I Am Cait premiere was watched by just 2.7 million viewers, according to Nielsen ratings. In comparison, the Keeping Up With The Kardashians “About Bruce” special garnered 4.2 million viewers back in May, and Caitlyn’s April interview with Diane Sawyer had a huge audience of 17 million people.
Now, according to an insider, “Caitlyn is unhappy with the numbers, and hates losing to Kris Jenner, and the rest of the Kardashian family. There has been tremendous pressure on Caitlyn, and she feels that she has let the transgender community down. Caitlyn isn’t happy with how E! has been promoting the show, relying on clips from I Am Cait,” the source said. “E! is also frustrated with Caitlyn because she hasn’t done any press to promote the show. This was supposed to be a ratings blockbuster for E! and a lot of money has been invested in it.”
Instead of promoting, I Am Cait, the reality starlet posted a tribute on Tuesday to transgender women, India Clarke and K.C. Haggard, who were murdered last week.
A family source said, “Caitlyn’s kids feel that there is just a lot of fatigue on behalf of the public, and she should have waited until later this year to do a reality show. Live as a woman and deal with the legal consequences of the fatal car crash. Caitlyn didn’t want to listen to her kids’ advice, and this is why some of them, including Bart and Brody won’t participate in the show.”
I can understand the “family source” and the E! sources’ points. I think the coverage has been wall-to-wall and anyone – transgender, gay, straight, white, black, whatever – would be facing a backlash and an exhausted public. I think the Diane Sawyer interview is still one of the most compelling interviews I’ve ever seen and the Vanity Fair cover was a huge pop culture moment, but yeah… maybe the reality show could have been paused for six months or so. And while I Am Cait isn’t a ratings juggernaut, 2.7 million viewers isn’t anything to sniff at – but perhaps Caitlyn realized she needed to step out more and do these pap strolls to increase “buzz” for the show.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Caitlyn sure loves the camera doesn’t she..by getting all reality chick on the public, I think in some way she is diminishing the actual struggle so many in the LGBT community go through.
I don’t think she is diminishing anything at all. Is Kim Kardashian diminishing the struggle of women? Yet every other day since 2007 there has been article-after-article on Kim, her relationships, and her family. Anyone who watched the first episode of ‘I Am Cait’, saw the ESPY speech, and has seen the previews for upcoming episodes would see that the show is centered not only on Caitlyn, but also the people and the community that are experiencing not only her transition, but also their own transitions—gender, identity and otherwise. Is there lots of press coverage of Caitlyn? Of course.
In light of a major Diane Sawyer interview, an award speech, a transition of major Olympic star, and a show about said transition currently under way, I would expect no less. NEWS ALERT. People with television shows, transitioning or not, tend to promote their shows and themselves in the press. And the press, with its varying circus atmosphere around such topics such as transitioning, has certainly stepped over the boundaries a few times in this circumstance.
Have any of Kim’s shows dealt with identity and asked transcendental questions about life? Not many.
Caitlyn fatigue due to paparazzi photos is only part of it; she is an absent, narcissistic parent who killed someone by inattentive driving.
There isn’t anything there to aspire to or admire. There are much better transgender role models already out there.
springingforward… good point, interesting that they managed to suppress that story quite well and make it go away. Its almost like its been forgotten while everyone applauds her courage.
Christo, People are holding Caitlyn to higher standards than Kim. The public, especially those juggling this issue first hand, expect Caitlyn to be serious about this and not just a sparkly, superficial attention-wh0re. They want her to represent the community by dodging the cliches and they hope she is bored with the default and faulty stereotypes.
Comparing Kim to Caitlyn is like comparing watermelons to a Jinga Puzzle. They are on different planets with regards to what the public expects. I would say that Kim *has* done some damage but people don’t really care because that is her whole shtick. She is made of lies and smart people know it. Caitlyn is representing an entire demographic that’s never had such a public figure.
There’s more at stake when she steps out. I think that, like first black presidents, first women in space, first gay couple to marry and/or adopt children, Caitlyn is the face of a group of people that want respectable, positive and serious representation and making this a reality show spectacle while doing fashion show pap walks might not garner the kind of attention that it deserves or needs. Kim can do that because there’s nothing she represents that we give a flip about.
I’m so tired of all the whining about Caitlyn not doing enough for the transgender and LGBT community on these articles. These points have been hammered to death at this stage. Yes, she and the Kardashians will use her story to increase their brand and because it’s the Kardashians, there’s going to be a certain level of vapidity involved.
That said, I’ve never followed the Kardashians; and Bruce Jenner, the athlete, is before my time. I find it quite interesting how relatively easy Bruce’s transition has been taken by the media and the public at large, and how wide reaching it is (as a non-Kardashian fan, I’m pretty well up to date with her situation outside of this site). I know there’s still plenty of transphobia to go around in but I think that this whole thing has been well managed and well dealt with by the public. Caitlyn wants to dress how she likes and help out the community, even if there is a degree of media manipulation involved. But I think this very public transition is doing more good than harm.
While I think the writers and commentators on this site are intelligent and engaging people, one thing that does bother me is the reduction of many celebrities’ issues because they are “white” and “privileged”. I understand white privilege – I know that as a cis straight white man I have it easier than women, LGBT people and non-white races but that doesn’t mean all my problems are superficial, ignorant or lesser. The same applies to Caitlyn. Just because she’s white and wealthy, it doesn’t make her journey any less important than any other transgender person. Yes, it’s despicable that poorer and non-white transgender people will not receive the same recognition by society and that needs to change, but that’s not Caitlyn’s fault.
Criticise the Kardashians, criticise the personal flaws and history of Bruce/Caitlyn but let’s not criticise how a transgender person should conduct themselves or their “role-model” persona in public, particularly as I’m assuming most of us are cisgender on this site and can’t know close-to-first-hand what it must be like to be in that situation.
“Is Kim Kardashian diminishing the struggle of women?”
Yes.
A lot of trans say trans cause is not gay cause. Dunno why they still attached to LGB.
@Christo….Kim Kardashian never has and never would say she stands for women’s rights, causes or anything of thats org. She doesn’t and wouldn’t promote herself as a role model for women’s lib. Caitlyn does however.
I never really trust what Radar Online has to say. They’re on the same level as Hollywood Life for me lol. That being said Caitlyn looks good in that jumpsuit! I love me a good jumpsuit.
Good
Why does Cait always look on the verge of tears?
Its probably from all the flash from the pap cameras. They’re blinding really
I dunno… to me she just looks a little confused and overwhelmed. But I think being an X-Kardashian, she’s would be used to the flashes. Maybe she is actually in a little pain. We don’t know what surgeries were done when so there may still be an adjustment?
I noticed this too. I would assume it’s nerves/anxiety.
I know I am sick of her but I don’t watch Kartrashian/Jenner TV anyway. Catilyn is too absorbed in how she looks and wearing new outfits; she’s seems very superficial to me.
People are seeing how superficial Caitlyn is. Caitlyn all about the dress and makeup and going to parties. We are constantly bombarded with how fabulous she looks and how beautiful she is. IMO, There is nothing there. Also, 2.7 mill viewers is a disappointment after DS interview brought in 17 million viewers. I belive CJ is depressed, she has sad eyes and appears to me to be going through the motions.
The thing I never understood was CJenner saying she had never met a trans until she came out. I want to know what was stopping her from getting to know the people in that community, why didn’t she volunteered in a shelter for trans kids, Ect. Something does not pass the smell test to me.
I agree. It’s like Bruce became Caitlyn overnight with no one suspecting a thing and now she’s basically giving us a fashion show.
It’s incredibly odd. I completely understand not getting involved in the LGBT community while closeted. But once she’d decided to transition … wouldn’t you reach out to other people who’ve gone through the process?
Wouldn’t her transition counsellor have raised it as a red flag pre-transition? I guess you can transition without the support of the LGBT community, but why would you? A strange choice for anyone, but it’s particularly odd for Cait since it should’ve been obvious her fame was going to force her into being a role model for trans folk (whether she wanted to or not).
It’s important to consider BC’s (before Caityln) reputation as a manly man athlete and the money that was probably still received as a result of that history. And not to mention how completely dominant the Kardashian show freight train was. Not a lot of room to do what anyone else wanted to do.
I can’t help but wonder if BC had been attracted to Kris because that woman was so superficial or if that was an influential force to go from simple cross dressing to a full-on gender identity shift because BC associated Kris’s fame and fortune to that simple superficiality and romanticized the other gender through it.
Only time will tell if Caitlyn will continue to feel more comfortable in her new identity, even when/if the viewers dry up and the paparazzi stops taking pictures. I genuinely hope so because it must be so painfully complicated to feel so pulled and caged and mixed up.
Ummm…NEWSFLASH…closeted people who are uncomfortable in their own skin don’t make an effort to reach out to people who would hold up the mirror to their internal conflict; hence, the lack of outreach prior to the transition.
I agree. I wish her well, but it’s too much all at once. Fatigue is a nice way to describe it. She needs to disappear from in-your-face all the time and do her good works privately and not in front of the camera, because it appears it is more about her than what she’s trying to accomplish and whom she’s trying to help.
Frankly, I liked her better when she was Bruce.
Many people in the above thread are just throwing opinions for opinion-sake and obviously haven’t seen the 1st episode of the E! series. It is quite obvious that the series attempts to tell the story of Caitlyn as well as the community of people like her. Did you miss the entire last 15 minutes of the episode where the focus was on the suicide of an UNKNOWN, NOT FAMOUS transgender youth and the discussion with the UNKNOWN, NOT FAMOUS mother of said youth??
So, let me get this straight, MONTHS OF SPECULATION and NO INTERVIEWS about Bruce’s possible transition. Then ONE DIANE SAWYER INTERVIEW in April 2015. Then ONE MAGAZINE COVER for Vanity Fair. Then ONE ESPY Speech. And then ONE E! Show.
And, yes, photographs of Caitlyn in dresses now. Hello, this is NOW who she is. You will NOW and FOREVER see her dressed as a female. It might be annoying and EVENTFUL for you to see this, but this is the NORM for her now.
How many COUNTLESS covers does J.LAW get during a promotions for one of her movies???? Cosmo, Vogue, Vanity Fair, Elle, and interviews at Comicon, Today Show, etc. etc. etc…..LAYERS UPON LAYERS….HEADLINE AFTER HEADLINE???? Is this really about overexposure or is it REALLY about overexposure of something that you are uncomfortable with and are conveniently labeling as as “TOO MUCH” when you NEVER EVER say anything about TOO MUCH when it comes to J.Law or Kim K…etc. etc. etc.
This smacks of the same arguments and opinions offered up by closeted racists who always say “why does it always have to be about race?”
holy cats.
you CAN make a POINT WITHOUT the use of CAPS every OTHER word. it’s DISTRACTING to read and does not STRESS your point. YOU just look a little crazed.
Thanks Original Kay. Now, care to respond to the substance or are you just all capped out?
You’re welcome!
@Christo, I very much agree with everything you said and that you’ve said on this thread.
I watched some bits of the show and it’s very far from what most people are making it out to be, maybe nobody is watching, but then they shouldn’t also keep on clicking on Cait’s stories only to say “Oh, I’m so sick of her!”.
Those comments are just pointless, annoying. and silly.
Bruce never met a trans before coming out bc there’re none before he came to enlight the media establishment. He’s the Holy trans with his newly trans friends apostles.
“Now, according to an insider, “Caitlyn is unhappy with the numbers, and hates losing to Kris Jenner, and the rest of the Kardashian family.” This , if the insider is legit is what makes me side eye Caitlyn. Is the show about her journey, or is it about competing with Chris? SMH.
Yeah, I blanched at “losing to Kris Jenner” too. If Caitlyn as Bruce had had her own reality show, presenting as a man, it would have been all about how Bruce is a free man and is making his own life and has such a great golf swing. Now that Caitlyn is presenting as her true, womanly self, it’s all about being in competition with another woman. I. Am. Tired.
Are you really surprised that an Olympic gold medal winning athlete has a competitive streak?
Good one
THIS.
A really cruel competitive streak. The meanest moment of the Sawyer interview was Jenner’s reference to the fellow Olympian/rival athlete’s weight–“I saw him again recently and I won there, too, Diane! He’s so overweight now.”
From the Sawyer interview, there was the comment (with smirk) that he/she had the biggest story of all (versus the K story lines).
Definitely competitive.
I thought I read somewhere it was the highest rated show of the day?
You are correct. Thank you for pointing it out. The dismay with the ratings had nothing to do about the RATINGS IN RELATION TO OTHER SHOWS FOR THAT NIGHT. It had EVERYTHING to do with the ratings as they were predicted to be versus what they actually were.
It is like when a movie opens number one at the box office but it brought in 30 million versus the expected 100 million. STILL #1, but not by the margin expected. People don’t seem to get the nuance in all of this.
Christo, are you a paid E! plant? You are all over this thread with ridiculous remarks.
Matador- nothing planty about Cristo’s remarks. They make sense to me. When I first saw the numbers, I thought they matched the Kardashian shows’ typical ratings nowadays. With all the cable networks today, all scrambling for a piece of the audience, those aren’t unusual numbers. My bet is that the numbers would be higher on a non-cable network or even on PBS, though. Many people wouldn’t expect to get anything solid on the E! network, E is for Entertainment and they’re known for overloading on the Kardashian krap and sucking up to celebrities. Many people wouldn’t even know where to find the network on their channel lineup, if it’s even there. The E! network is just in the tabloid category, and many people don’t read tabloids except while waiting in line at the grocery store (although not so much now that they don’t cover aliens too often).
The high numbers on the K show dealing with Cait indicates that they pulled in a lot of their lost audience for that show. It’s less likely that they pulled in entirely new people for it.
How much are you paid to PR, Christo? You are ridiculously invested in your bullet points here…..
Matador, great that you have the good fortune of only being on this thread once and consider my three comments as tantamount to being an E! plant. With 4 comments…my-oh-my, you might accuse me of being President of E! programming. Sounds like you get it all out in one pithy comment and we won’t see you make comment #2, which would make you an E! intern perhaps? Oops, looks like you did make your 2nd comment down below. E! intern, it is. #3 will make you a plant as well, using your logic or lack thereof. Congratulations:)
The problem Cait is that the people who watch the Kardashians are not the same people trying to get an informed and educated view of the life of a transgender woman.
WHY did this special have to be on E?
I’ve come to accept that a segment of the population is completely stupid but it’s not everyone and it’s foolish to bank that it is. I don’t watch E, I trust them to produce an informed and compassionate reality show the way I trust TLC to take the health of its child stars into consideration. MANY people said she should take this to a more respectable station and make this a shortened more research based story about transgender issues and how she struggled with and eventually became physically a woman, as well as what she’s learned from working with the transgender community/living as a woman.
Instead she stayed on E to compete with the Kardashians…
It’s all so shallow and not quite disappointing. I’ve known a few men like Bruce (and yes im speaking specifically to Bruce and the role he filled as a man in that household) who seem so cowed and pitiful compared to their dynamic domineering spouses and then when given a chance/freedom reveal their own snake in the grass tendencies. Which is to say you don’t end up married and living with a family like that for years if you’re not like them.
Amen
“I’ve known a few men like Bruce (and yes im speaking specifically to Bruce and the role he filled as a man in that household) who seem so cowed and pitiful compared to their dynamic domineering spouses and then when given a chance/freedom reveal their own snake in the grass tendencies”
Very interesting observation, ESE. Never thought about that potential conundrum for Cait.
Good point!
^^^^One of the best posts on this topic.Well done, Eternal Side Eye.
100% x ∞!
It actually beat the Kardashians in the ratings. The statement about the ratings isn’t that they are lower in comparison to other shows. That opposite is in fact true. That statement was made in relation to the expectations for what was predicted versus the actual numbers.
I wonder if Cait is contractually obligated to E! somehow. Maybe to at least give them the right of first refusal? Or maybe they’re just the ones who approached her with the idea. Other networks would have made so much more sense.
It has all happened very quickly – Vanity Fair was two months ago. However I imagine if this was compared to regular Kardashian ratings it can’t be that different? Not that many people actually watch KUWTK it just feels like they do because that family is everywhere.
I would never have thought that Bruce Jenner would look good as a woman, he’s 6’4 and wasn’t exactly feminine looking – but Caitlyn, with the right clothes, is a very striking figure. Who’da thought?!!
The source is garbage. Kris paid a visit to Caitlyn’s house this week so they must be on good terms. I kind of wish people would cut Kris some slack. It’s a massive thing she has to deal with, and it’s different to what Bruce’s children deal with. Bruce, as Caitlyn, is still there for them. Nothing has changed except appearance. For Kris, it’s like what Khloe said, she wonders if her entire marriage was a lie.
Pretty much everyone called shenanigans on the ‘poor Kris’ narrative. There’s no way she was in the dark – there have been rumors and rumblings on the subject for YEARS, and Bruce had C cup breasts when they got together. Kris was just happy to be married to a ‘name’.
Why would anyone feel sorry for “poor Kris” when she was married to Bruce for over 20 years and had two kids with him? Of course she knew about his secret life. She stayed with him for money and the prestige of being with a famous man. She used him for years and he provided for her and the K kids. That was their deal IMO. The “blindsided” storyline holds no water. Kris is anything but an innocent.
Is that Nick Loeb in the background of the first picture?
I wondered that too. It does look like him. wonder what he is doing out, shouldn’t he be dealing with how to take her eggs so that he can be a father.
Shouldn’t he be out buying an industrial size tank of ‘Douche-B-Gone’ to dunk himself into?
Caitlyn just need to go way period. I get that she is for the transgender commute but I mysel and apparently the whole public is just about to have enough of her and her crazy dysfunctional family. I am not surprised with whole ratings to be dismal. At least the public at this point is not stupid and knows exactly what she is doing, and that is claiming for attention.
Yes there is Caitlyn fatigue. I think people have figured out that Caitlyn is just another Kardashian.
Yes, yes and YES! They all need to go away.
Add me as another fatigue-er and I’ve never watched any of the KUWTK shows, or the Caitlyn special. Just seeing daily photos of her at parties or events is enough to wish she’d just go away for a while.
Yes to what you said iheartjacksparrow! I’ve never watched any of these shows but so tired of seeing her face plastered all over every damn news or gossip site. Enough.
Kaiser: I love me a good wide leg trouser too! I think they can look so polished and sexy on a woman, especially if they are tailored well at the bottom, and not too long. Paired with a strong heel, I think nothing looks better.
I want to think this isn’t true, but I have a feeling it it. However I think it has less to do with Kris (I mean, come on, you can’t compare the talented Bruce Jenner with Kris Jenner) and more to do with winning. Cait said so herself, she loves to win, she loves rankings.
I will say when I finally watched it, seeing the old Bruce voice (that matches the bad polo shirt/golf shorts image I have in my head) with this beautiful, elegant woman was a little brain confusing at first.
Those are not trousers, though, they seem like a strapless onesie to me, and I thought the consensus here was that onesies suck?
IMO by immediately rolling out a reality show, she immediately undercut everything she was trying to accomplish. She and her entire family have been reality show staples for most of the last decade, and I’m pretty sure the general public expects “I am Cait” to be “more of the same” scripted Kartrashcrap. Kardashian ratings overall are down, and they’re just not interested. It would have been so, so much better to do filming for a year or so and put out a product in 2016 and on another network, so that this was all distanced from the Kardashians.
PBS would have been a better choice.
I can believe that. I like Caitlyn and everything but I’m so tired of her. When you see someone all over the internet for no reason, you don’t really feel like watching them on TV.
I believe this over-saturation of Cait is wearing thin on the public. If she was expecting acceptance, she should have gone about it in a less public non-Kardashian way. I would have been more receptive to her is she slowed down in the process and perhaps use her money and fame to open a foundation to help those who are less fortunate than her.
Yes, I think it’s the Kardashian-ness of it that bothers people.
I really think that it would have been better to make a 90-120 minute documentary film about Caitlyn’s transition as opposed to a docu-series. Eight episodes is too much and it’s too similar to KUWTK in many ways. They could have made a good documentary about Caitlyn that explored her life with the boring stuff edited out and the issues facing the wider trans community. Release it in December and it would give people time to process her new identity as well as garnering Oscar buzz, which would have been a great win for her and the transgender community. And Kimye at the Oscars would be a win for everyone who loves gossip.
+1 truth!!
I agree with you on the documentary. As it is, a continuing “story” about the daily ins-and-outs of life, work, people coming by and what outfit to wear is boring. We have that in our own lives; and who cares about that?
IMO I don’t believe this show is helping demonstrate the struggles of the LGBT community to those who are trying to understand. A friend of mine said this just looks like a dude playing dress-up in women’s clothing.
I think people are just tired of her – she’s everywhere! And I also think the dust up over the Arthur Ashe award hurt her. You can think very highly of Caitlyn but still believe that her getting that award was not appropriate in a year when there were so many other people in sports who faced terrifying circumstances and rose above it – Devon & Leah Still, Lauren Hill, Noah Galloway, etc. You don’t have to be “anti-Cait” to think that she wasn’t right for that award. Add to that the whole thing over whether she demanded the award, and yeah, it was a mess.
I also think people are tired of the near constant adulation. People remember about Bruce (not misgendering her, but referring to a point in time) and the stories about how he treated his prior wives, kids, etc. That stuff doesn’t go away when Cait transitioned. It didn’t wipe the slate clean, despite the best efforts of some to make it so. People don’t forget that easily, and it’s hard to just accept a clean slate.
Exactly my thought, Sam. Instead of focusing on his own issues and the over-exposure associated with it, she should be intervening in the mess that is Kylie Jenner IMO. I’m not saying she doesn’t care about her but this is the time that she should be stepping up to the plate as a DAD and doing right by his lost and drowning daughter. With all the news about her being a really bad parent, this needs to be her priority despite her transition issues. Her ego and beating Kris at her own game is so ridiculous in light of what is happening to Kylie.
Kylie is a couple of weeks away from turning 18. The time for Bruce to be a parent was a couple of years ago. Maybe if he had stepped in earlier, he could have prevented the Tyga relationship, the lips, the rear, etc. It’s too late now.
She is not the second coming. I don’t understand it and I don’t care to understand it, b/c it doesn’t affect me personally, but I think if you were born a man and want to be a women now, while interesting/strange, fine ok, you are a women now. I don’t care. I don’t think any less of them, I’m not going to make fun of them.
Would I feel differently if my son or husband wanted to be a women or my mom wanted to be a man, of course. I can’t relate to it now, so I dont care, nor would I watch something I don’t care about.
However that white lady who says she identifies as black, that really bugs me and I did make fun of her. Does this make me a bad person? fine, nobody’s perfect.
She doesn’t care, and Kris doesn’t care about Kylie “trainwreck” Jenner either. If they did, they would have, and COULD have, stopped this train in it’s tracks a looooooooong time ago. Nope. They don’t care.
“Anything, anything….anything for money.”
I read excerpts of the VF article and I recall that she mentions that she blamed all the bad things on “Bruce.” She also implied that Cait is a new slate. I’m sorry but you don’t erase history just because you changed genders. She was a shitty father to her kids and that car accident was inexcusable.
I think it’s important to remember that Caitlyn is a former athlete and she’s probably still highly driven, highly competitive. It’s just her nature to want to win, to be number one. This trait has gotten her so far in life, but it’s not entirely working for her at the moment. I agree it would have been better to let a few months elapse between her Diane Sawyer interview/debut in Vanity Fair and the premiere of the show. The show would have been perfect to run in the Fall.
I am curious, is Bruce’s name in history replaced by Caitlyn in terms of all the athletic awards? maybe with a * next to it. Can she only compete in women’s division now? is that fair? Of course I know she is not the athlete she used to be (in more ways than one) but still interesting.
@db, I appreciate your post because I’ve been having issues with not getting things done and I think that’s my problem: I’m not competitive, like, 0%.
Anyway, @Monica, yes, they’re going to change the name. And as far as I know, Cait is no longer competing. There was a tennis player about 30 years ago who transitioned and was allowed to play against females because her testosterone levels were lower than those from a man (she was taking hormones).
She’s very famous if I recall correctly, but I can’t remember the name atm.
Honestly, Caitlyn should hire Kris to be her manager. I’m sure that Kris’ deal with Devil extends to former spouses, doesn’t it?
Maybe Caityln doesn’t care to go the route of sex tape, constant humiliation, and using every person in her life in order to do well? Sure, Kris could raise her kids into thinking that those actions were not putrid, but Caitlyn was a grown person when she met Kris, so she might have some sort of moral compass. Those K kids seem like completely empty vessels, like manufactured products.
2.7 is a great number. The Kardashians/Jenner girls still do good numbers, because it’s a lot of them on there. One Kardashian, not even Kim, could pull in those numbers. It’s the family that pulls those kind of numbers.
I think where E made the mistake was releasing photo stills of her out and about when filming. After Vanity Fair, we really should have not seen her anymore except probably at the Gay Pride parade festivities and the awards show. Then maybe more people would have been interested in the show when it came on. By the time the show came on, they had been steadily releasing teaser shots for like a month of her out and about. Add it all together, the Vanity Fair, the awards show, and ongoing photo ops released to gossip sites for over a month of her out and about while filming, and a lot of the mystery was gone by then regarding Caitlyn.
Still, 2,7 is nothing to sneeze at on a cable network channel like E or Bravo. Still, the first episode was surprisingly much better than I thought it would be and enjoyed it. I think the ratings will stay consistent.
I’m just so bored with her – bored of hearing about her; bored of seeing her in print everywhere; bored seeing her on the news for the hundredth millionth time …
She’s over-exposed. Her PR people should’ve arranged to release the Vanity Fair cover AND her new persona on the first episode of her new show (with lots of heavy promotion done in advance), and kept her in hiding up until that point (although it would’ve been okay to still do that first interview a few months ago) … that would’ve made people tune in and it would’ve kept the interest up.
But now … I mean, what is she going to tell us on her show that we haven’t already read about with her journey? It’s just all going to be following her going to the shops, out and about at social events, talking to her family … bor-eeeng!
I agree, they should have kept her under wraps until the show aired. I was very curious at first, but seems like most of the content was revealed before it even aired.
How much money can they have invested in a show that follows someone around with a camera?
I just don’t think it’s all that interesting. She made her announcement and commenced her new life, but expecting people to be enthralled with that for any length of time was simply narcissistic thinking. It’s your thing, Cait. Do what you wanna do. Shouldn’t that be enough?
I find Caitlyn very narcissistic…It is all about her! you even forget that she is a parent as parenting is clearly not about her number 1 priority. The show and herself are very superficials, and I like and miss Bruce who seemed low profile and way more real and not so much into fame.
The question I am asking is why Caitlyn need to have her own show and why not be outside the spotlight and helping the transgender community?
I think they should have started filming the show when Cailtyn was still Bruce. This way we could really see the ins and outs of transitioning. Now all we see is Caitlyn in designer clothes talking about hair and make-up. No thanks.
Narcissistic is a very strong word. Self-centered, yes.
I feel like the fact that the article calls her a “reality starlet” speaks volumes.
People are finally sick of all things Kardashian/ Jenner. I’d rather watch I Am Jazz. That little girl is a brave inspiration to young transgender people everywhere.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now THIS is a role model!
(mom of a transgender son.)
Agree with both comments.
Sick of the Caitlyn overload. Bruce was not active in supporting this community prior, despite knowing he had gender identity questions since age 6. He had the money, means, and ability to support the LGBT community long before he came out, and could do so without coming out- so why didn’t he? Lots of people come out everyday and don’t get the same attention. I don’t get why this one is any different from anyone else trying to live a genuine, authentic life. Bruce/Caitlyn is not unique, nor are they blazing new territory. They just have the so called “fame” to get recognition, but then again, he could have been doing something positive to help a long time ago. That tells me it’s all about the fame and fortune now, not really about helping others in similar situations.
I completely agree with you… he is not genuine otherwise he would have been involved in helping transgenders long before
@Thatblonde Exactly. The fact that most of her children won’t do the show says volumes for me as well. I’d respect her more if she took time off to reconnect with her family, help Kylie get professional help, and deal with the lawsuits coming from her car crash.
Honestly I think people are just over it.. Meaning the Ks and Jenners . Call it nieve but I believe there all declining and scrambling.I am not sure we are ready to see this all on camera. We’re being too force fed right now. I understand the need to show and talk absolutley. Maybe moving a little too fast.
Awww that’s just too bad isn’t it? What’s the matter Cait? Not achieving quite the domination the rest of your family achieved? Maybe and hopefully the people are just fed up with the whole lot of you.
Kris Jenner must be so happy the ratings are low. Then again KUWTK’s ratings aren’t as good as they used to be. The world is getting sick of this family and their fakeness.
I’d rather watch a show about Laverne Cox. Caitlyn is a Kardashian fameball.
Both has keep their balls but Cox shows them better.
Well there’s some imagery.
As the mom of a trans son……SO OVER IT! It’s the Kardasian fame train. The Kardashians and the Jenner’s are on their way out. Except for Kendall. As long as she keeps her distance….
And for the record, My son rolls his eyes at Cait.
2,7 millions americans who deserve to be sentenced to community services for street transgender sex workers. I bet there will never look again at Bruce Jenner.
Is it not a bit much to call her a starlet? Let’s be honest, no born woman in her 60s gets a vanity fair cover wearing her (or Kim’s?) grots, nor are they often called starlets.
So, I don’t buy and never have bought that Kris Jenner wasn’t fully informed of Bruces proclivities all along. Knowing that makes me wonder what Kris’s REAL proclivities REALLY are. I have ALWAYS felt she has ZERO sexual chemistry with Bruce, no real hugging, no real heat with him, no real warmth. Ive always felt that Kris married Rob Kardashian, at a certain point realized she was gay and that her and Bruce had a good arrangement to support each other and have a family together back when one needed to stay in the closet to have a family. It wasn’t back then like it is now. having said that I believe Kim and Kanye have the very same arrangement her mother and Bruce/Caitlyn had. Kim, for all of her vulgar and overt sexuality, has about as much genuine heat with men as a wet blanket. I predict the NEXT big thing on KUWTK is “Mama Kris Jenner Comes Out!”
Caitlyn doesn’t represent the true struggles of the majority of transgendered. First of all, she has crazy money and fame. And now, the overexposure is obvious. Caitlyn, you’ve made your point, now please go away and live the rest of your life happily as a female. I, for one, don’t want to hear any more news about you male or female.
Yawn. Pretty soon this person will get tired of playing dress up. Doing hair will become a chore and all outfits will all look the same…