Donald Trump went after the wrong lady, it seems. On Thursday, Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly was surprisingly on-point during the GOP Debate. As in, she asked some harsh, pointed questions of many of the candidates, including the GOP leading candidate Donald Trump. Kelly’s first question to Trump, right out of the gate, was:
“You’ve called women you don’t like, ‘fat pigs,’ ‘dogs,’ ‘slobs,’ and ‘disgusting animals.’… For the record, it was well beyond Rosie O’Donnell. Your Twitter account has several disparaging comments about women’s looks. You once told a contestant on ‘Celebrity Apprentice’ it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. Does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president?”
Trump was visibly pissed off that Megyn called him out so thoroughly. His answer was basically “we’re too politically correct these days” and he ended on a personal threat to Kelly, saying: “And honestly, Megyn, if you don’t like it, I’m sorry. I’ve been very nice to you, although, I could maybe not be based on the way you’ve treated me — but I wouldn’t do that.” That was the clip that most news and gossip outlets ran with. Maybe Trump knew he stepped in it, maybe he was just pissed that a Fox News blonde called him out, who knows? But he spent the rest of Thursday night and all of Friday excoriating Megyn Kelly personally.
First, he attacked her on Twitter, writing that she was “not very good or professional” and “she is totally overrated and angry. She really bombed tonite.” He retweeted any tweet that disparaged or criticized Megyn Kelly as well, including one tweet that referred to her as a “bimbo.” Then, Trump went on CNN on Friday night and he once again slammed Kelly, saying: “She gets out and she starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever.”
Yes. A period “joke.” Someone else wrote this but it’s too good not to repeat: “Megyn Kelly questioned my misogyny because she has her period.” That’s basically what he said. So, somehow, improbably, THAT was the bridge too far. Trump was scheduled to appear at a RedState convention but Erick Erickson (the president of RedState) disinvited Trump, writing:
“I have tried to give a great deal of latitude to Donald Trump in his run for the Presidency. He is not a professional politician and is known for being a blunt talker. He connects with so much of the anger in the Republican base and is not afraid to be outspoken on a lot of issues. But there are even lines blunt talkers and unprofessional politicians should not cross. Decency is one of those lines.
As much as I do personally like Donald Trump, his comment about Megyn Kelly on CNN is a bridge too far for me. In a CNN interview, Mr. Trump said of Megyn Kelly, “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her wherever.” It was not the “blood coming out of her eyes” part that was the problem. I think there is no way to otherwise interpret Mr. Trump’s comment. In an attempted clarification, Mr. Trump’s team tells me he meant “whatever”, not “where ever.”
Trump also tweeted an explanation, saying that he meant Megyn Kelly was bleeding from her nose…??? And Trump called Erick Erickson a “loser” and everyone on Fox News “losers” as well. He’s been on a rampage since Thursday night, insulting everyone and everything. Jeb Bush and Gov. Kasich of Ohio have both called on Trump to apologize and settle down.
As for this Trump versus Megyn Kelly thing – the thing that bugs me is that I doubt anyone in the GOP would have reacted this strongly if Trump had attacked another female journalist. Like, if he had gone after Gwen Ifill, Candy Crawley, Katie Couric or Maria Bartiromo? I doubt this would have been the reaction. And what if Trump had verbally abused any other woman, like he has done so many times in the past? We’ve already seen the reaction to that – a whole lotta nada. The Republicans are reacting so strongly this time because Trump is attacking the prettiest blonde princess of Fox News. Now, all that being said… of course Donald Trump is a misogynistic pig and of course Megyn Kelly had every right to ask him (and anyone else) pointed questions. Anyway… the chickens have really come home to roost on this one, haven’t they?
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Trump is such a grotesque loser and the Republican Party should be ashamed of itself for letting him go this far.
That being said I’m getting so much pleasure out of the slightly horrified newscasters euphemisms about this.
Trump has always been an insecure man that attacks (or sues) anyone that he PERCEIVES has slighted him. He is throwing one of his classic temper tantrums and desperately needs a time out.
What I don’t understand is how people are still supporting him. Granted the Daily Mail is not a beacon for objectivity but some of those comments boycotting Fox/Kelly are scary!
I’m so grateful for the Palins and the Trumps of the Republican party. May they give forever of their overtly hateful and indecent slander; may they turn voters to Bernie Sander!!
I don’t think this site is misquoting but rather the source of information is not entirely factual. Some of the quotes stated above were never said by Trump.
@Bell which quotes are inaccurate? I can’t speak for the Twitter stuff but the stuff he said in the debate and in interviews are all accurate.
Trump did say he meant her “nose” and anybody who thought he meant anything else is “a deviant.”
Is “blood coming out of your eyes” an actual expression? Does it mean anything? Has anyone else ever said it? Who is the real deviant here?
I can’t figure out why on earth he thought ANY reference to blood was OK. What was the thought process? It’s just so WEIRD to me. Graphic and awful even if he DIDN’T mean “period.”
Belle Epoch, I know, right? I actually thought, because he’s not that articulate, that he might have meant “she was really going for blood.” So I might actually believe that he wasn’t talking about her period. Not that it would make him any less vile to me.
If the election should come down to Trump and HRC??! I am moving out of the country for a *minimum* of four years!!
@Luca76 – The Republican Party should be ashamed of itself for quite a few other things as well. A few examples would be Mike Huckabee’s response that “our military is not a social experiment” when asked if he would be open to transgender people enlisting.
I can’t even articulate how disturbing I find it that Scott Walker told Megyn Kelly that he is so staunchly anti-abortion that he wants to make it illegal even in cases of rape, incest and instances when childbirth would kill the mother. When Megyn Kelly asked if he was really so conservative that he would let a mother die he stood his ground, professed that “there are other ways to save the mother’s life” which was a ridiculous and stupid blanket statement, and said that his views are shared by the majority of the American population. THIS should’ve made national news but it was overshadowed by Trump’s bullsh*t antics.
Although I am personally pro-choice, regardless of how one feels about abortion, no man or woman has the right to dictate that a woman who was raped or might die *has* to give birth to the baby she is carrying.
And my biggest gripe of all was when the topic turned to whether or not God has directly spoken to any of the candidates, a question that was asked by someone in those video questions they had average people asking directly to the debaters. This question NEVER should’ve been asked, but it led to Cruz talking about how God has blessed the Republican Party with good candidates, and Kasich talking about how God wants America to be great. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state?
Absolutely!
The Republicans real problem with Trump is that he’s saying out loud all the crazy things that the others reserve for private cocktail parties with the Koch brothers and other Tea Partiers. As someone on Twitter put it a couple of weeks ago, “Donald Trump is all the other candidates after three or four drinks.”
@daria – YES YES!!! A million times. My mouth hit the floor when Walker started speaking. He would let a mother die instead of having an abortion- that is all I need to know. Get your religion out of politics , it has no place. You serve for all not just those that believe in what you do.
What I really can’t wrap my head around is why any woman would vote for him or any of these other a$$hats. And it’s not just abortion im speaking about either. It’s many of their policies most are very anti woman.
The Republican party definitely has female trouble.
Right there with you Daria. I think Walker would be singing a different tune if it was his life or the unborn baby.
Walker’s utterly appalling, supremely presumptuous and arrogantly inhumane comments had me yelling at the screen. A lot of believers confuse an interpretation of a specific religion’s tenets – and especially their own qualifications to judge and punish others in the name of God – with the morality and ethics that should guide good governance of a diverse citizenry.
I have no idea if we will ever claw our way back (again) to a sophisticated understanding of the ‘civitas’ or ‘res public’ as cited by good old Cicero. Sometimes I cannot believe we are still mucking about in the stall of religious-as-political ideology – or having some of these same arguments about what are basic human rights – in the year 2015.
The problem the establishment really has is that he’s taking the attention away from the candidates. They thought he’d bring attention to the debates but not overshadow everyone else.
Great post Daria, second all that
Where have you been ? What book is it that every president swears upon? Whose name is called in every oath? Separation of church and state does not mean any human in the U.S. cannot speak of his beliefs — that’s basic first amendment stuff right there.
Preach, Sister!
Most men would change their views on things if they actually were able to give birth BECAUSE it would directly affect them.
Maybe Trump is God’s revenge on the Republican party.
In that case, hold off on separation of church and state until God has finished the job.
@Seen the question and comments about G-d & the bible are part of a religious litmus test the GOP applies. the reference to the separation of church and state above are about how (a) there should be NO religious litmus test and (b) someone is not to use elected office to legislate based on their religious beliefs in order to make non-adherents have to live in accordance with those beliefs
This is my concern. There are so many things that should be getting airtime, but because of Trump’s ridiculous antics they are getting a pass. Trump doesn’t stand a chance to actually win, I am worried that his stunts will prevent other candidates from receiving proper scrutiny. Regardless of your political affiliation we should all agree that our candidates, and eventual president, need proper scrutiny.
I was equally horrified by what he said. My husband and I sat slack-jawed and repulsed. Ectopic pregnancies? Placenta infections before viability? Pre-e before viability? He’d have these women DIE?! I had a placental infection at 18 weeks pregnant and my obgyn told me straight up that I would die if I did not deliver the baby. Worst time of my life but um… Im glad I’m alive. So is my husband and our child (and another on the way!) screw you Scott Walker!!!
The problem with Trump is that he is just verbalizing all of the hate and dog whistles created by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity and OReille over the last decade. And someone else hit the nail on the head: if Trump had said this about Candy Crowley or Rachel Maddow, everyone would have roared in laughter. Just like they did when he repeated his comment about Rosie O’Donnell being a fat pig. They thought that was hilarious!
@Seen – “What book is it that every president swears upon?” First of all, the book a president gets sworn in with is up to his or her choice, for example, founding father John Adams, who was adamant about keeping religion out of politics, was sworn in using a LAW book. Teddy Roosevelt didn’t use a bible either. The swearing in using the bible has become a tradition started by George Washington but any book can be used. And I never said that separation of church and state meant that anyone couldn’t speak of his or her religious beliefs, I simply said that it has no place in a debate between presidential candidates. Any presidential candidate from any political party is entitled to feel however he or she wants in their personal time, but they need to keep it out of politics. Just because he or she might be anti-gay marriage or anti-abortion doesn’t mean that the entire country should have to change to accommodate them. As I’ve written on this site before: my religious beliefs dictate how I conduct myself, not how others around me should.
“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” – 1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams
“I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.” – Thomas Jefferson
And for the record, the first amendment pertains to the creation of laws discriminating against a person for their religious beliefs (and other things, obviously), so that doesn’t apply here.
Just because presidents have chosen to be sworn in on bibles largely for the sake of tradition and to pay homage to the men who came before them does not mean that their personal religious beliefs have ANY place in a political debate. It was a question that contributed nothing and has nothing whatsoever to do with their ability to rule or their policies.
Separation of church and state doesn’t necessarily mean that candidates can’t have religion influence their politics. It was meant more to avoid religious persecution through nonsecular dictatorships.
This being said, Walker and the kind of people who think like him are gross assholes. The argument for a child’s life over a woman’s is fundamentally self-undermining anyway. If a woman’s reproductive capability strips her of physical autonomy, then abortion is only problematic when male fetuses are aborted. A female fetus, by virtue of owning a uterus, would not have bodily rights.
“..and said that his views are shared by the majority of the American population…”
Uh, no. That’s a guy that is completely FOS!! But keep on tthinking that bud!!
Pro choice and proudly support Planned Parenthood because ALL of their services needed. I don’t need PP anymore due to age, but my daughter uses them because she doesn’t have insurance yet.
I can’t agree with you more! It’s making me insane that this nonsense from buffoon Trump is all over the news and yet Scott Walker basically said a women’s life means nothing, and crickets…..
Not one man on that stage values women. Trump is just the only saying out loud what they all think. Their mock horror over his comments is pathetic.
If only she could have been this incisive when interviewing the Duggars. From that performance alone, Trump and anyone else can say whatever they want about her as far as I’m concerned.
I was thinking the same thing. Why couldn’t she have asked these types of questions when interviewing the Duggar’s?
Well, but I agree with her decision to go harder after these guys (I can’t believe I just agreed with a Fox anchor). At least Duggars aren’t running for president.
i assume the duggars had pre approved questions or pre approved questioned that couldnt be asked
I think the proof is in the pudding here. People are getting caught up in the details of what was said. “Oh I was referring to her nose”…Whaaat? The point is, it does NOT MATTER whether it was her nose, her eyes, her VAGINA….someone has to say it, I’m a nurse, I’ll say it. VAGINA. Vagina Vagina Vagina.
Point is, it doesn’t matter. What matters is his response to getting pressed with what is a moderately tough question by a middleweight (at best) journalist is to revert to making comments about the way she looks. THAT is his default, and THAT is the problem. There is absolutely no place for that kind of playground bully stuff on the world stage. It is unstatesmanlike.
Also, anyone else notice that complete radio silence from the other GOPers on stage while he was sticking his foot in it? This completely whitewashed, focus-grouped band of wannabes had a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to score some serious points with voters by taking a stand against his misogyny and bullying tactics in real time, right there on that stage. It speaks volumes to the collective intellect of the GOP that not a single one of them saw that opportunity.
Yes to all of this.
I find it more than a bit hypocritical that Erick Erickson, who’s quite the misogynist himself, disinivited Trump.
http://www.vox.com/2015/8/8/9120783/erick-erickson-donald-trump-sexism
when you are a possible Republican candidate and that even Fox News hates you,it shows what huge troll you are
Hahaha!
He clearly had no problems with Trump’s attack on Rosie O’Donnell. BTW, without out of touch GOP candidates, I would have no clue what the irrelevant Rosie was up to.
Exactly. But Trump went after Fox’s Queen. Plus the Republican Party needs a way to dislodge, discredit & marganilize Trump–who is a real threat to their base. He splinters it so they gin up & amplify his comments which are similar in tone and demeanor to those most of their anchors (male and female) spew about those who they deem to be in the out group. For this, while I am not a Trump supporter, I hope he turns Fox’s hypocrisy against the network & it’s supporters and spin it into gold.
Absolutely – but he gets paid by FOX so of course he’s going to pretend to take umbrage. Meanwhile, this really proves to me that the RNC is telling FOX to help them push Trump out of the limelight so that they can help Jeb build up some momentum.
I think you are right. Although I am no Trump supporter, I thought that Fox had an agenda in the debates–to bring down Trump. The first question was a total set up because everyone knew Trump wouldn’t make a pledge to not to run as a 3rd party candidate. The questions posed to him seemed a lot more personal than to the other candidates. While Trump should not have attacked Megyn Kelly and his comments are inexcusable, I found her tone very accusatory. But that’s the little Fox princess for you–she does that with people she likes and hates.
I can no longer stomach Megyn Kelly because of her awful attitude and condescending tone she takes with almost everyone featured on her show. If the GOP wanted a jerk to mediate the debate they found the perfect person in Meg.
I agree 100% that the RNC & POX are teaming up against The Donald. But after an unwelcome viewing of POX a few hours before the debate, I’m convinced their talking points were clearly pushing Walker over Jeb!
(Am currently surrounded by red state republicans, and I’ve been surprised at their obvious – and vocal – distaste for Jeb!; Kasich is the one the moderates sigh wistfully about, but don’t believe has a chance.)
All that was before both Walker and Jeb! acquitted themselves so poorly at the debate, though.
great article. Thanks for posting this link.
@cr – Whoa! My jaw actually dropped. How ironic that he even actually tweeted support of Donald bashing Rosie O’Donnell only to turn around and be an enormous hypocrite all because I guess Megyn Kelly is sacred due to her connection to Fox. Really gross.
I also find it hypocritical and astonishing that THIS was the line too far for him. Not calling Mexican immigrants rapists, or questioning McCain’s heroism but THIS.
Erickson really thinks he’s some kind of hero for uninviting him, but the fact that you invited him at all is inexcusable to me.
THIS. Thank you.
Seriously? Isn’t being an opportunistic hypocrite part of his job?
Thanks for the article link. But reading that string of posts was like moving my fingers along a daisy chain of stupid.
(Also: gotta love a hypocritical schmuck – who looks like that – harping on and on about a woman’s looks and ‘datability.’ Well, at least when he insinuates that women are unfunny, we can take it as an expert opinion. Merci for the science lesson, Prof. Erick Erick. Times two!)
Between this moron – and Trump’s ‘strategist’ whom he just fired/who just fired Trump – I love how all the disreputable maggots are fighting in the corpse of an equally disreputable candidacy.
I can honestly say I never really thought I’d be defending Megyn Kelly… but I am. I’m almost glad it was HER he attacked, so the GOP WILL be all over it. It was ridiculous, and I’m really just ready for the Trump nonsense to wear everyone out and just be over. Then we can get back to the regular circus. 🙂
@savu. I am also defended Megyn Kelly as well, even if she and the Fox newscast that so much crap of their ‘you know where”. With that being said, I am glad that Megyn Kelly ask that question and she does deserve all the defense she needs especially from me and I don’t take that to lightly, but with that being said Megyn I am on your side on this one, just don’t get to comfortable.
I agree. One thing that I suppose you can say about Trump, is that he’s bringing people together. I never in a million years would have thought that I would feel anything in common with a Fox news anchor or a Mexican drug lord, and yet I find myself siding with both of these recent Trump targets. Group hug.
Here’s hoping this makes an impact, however I thought saying a POW wasn’t a hero because he got caught would have had more of a lasting reaction. Sigh.
Here in the lovely state of Georgia, Saxby Chambliss (R) challenged Max Cleland (D) for his U.S. Senate seat. Chambliss, who received multiple deferments during Vietnam, questioned the patriotism of Cleland, who lost three limbs in that war. Chambliss’ campaign ads paired Cleland with bin Laden and Hussein. It was one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever witnessed, and he went from trailing by 22 points to winning.
Ugh I remember that so well. Yes someone who leaves multiple limbs on the battlefield is so unpatriotic and anti military. Though even if he was, I think that sacrifice would be understandable and not to be questioned. Her opponent tried it with tammy Duckworth as well.
@Mayamae, That is absolutely horrifying.
WTF!?!?
Me too. I thought the slag against McCain would get more of a reaction but no. Sad.
Amazing that wasn’t the last straw for people, right? Unfortunately there’s a bitter demographic who he appeals to.
Are you really surprised, though, considering how they treat wounded veterans and fund the V.A.? Most of them have never served in the military, nor their children, because THEY’RE too good to be sacrificed in the wars they instigate.
Agree with that. The remarks about McCain were disgraceful and I can’t see why anyone who sees themselves as a patriot – or a humanitarian – would tolerate them and continue to support this creature.
This is why I suspect social programs are always the first to go under the knife when budget cuts arrive. As long as you keep up a steady of supply of poor people desperate for upward social mobility, you’ll always have fodder for the war machine.
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I hope this is the bridge too far for him. Can you imagine this idiot being President? He can’t control himself or his anger or words. We would have WWIII in five minutes.
I didn’t think Megyn (hate cutesy name spellings) Kelley made this clear, but I actually thing her point about Trump’s misogyny was relevant to all of the discussion about the Republican’s “war on women.” That’s a big issue that the Republicans need to address, and calling women pigs, dogs and saying a reporter asked him a question because she was having her period is directly related. So all of this “why would she dig up this nonsense?” is a smoke screen.
Nah I hope he gets elected to be the republicans candidate for presidency. That way it will almost be certain that my fav Hilary Clinton will be elected as the first female president of United States.
You just said that to torture me, didn’t you? Sorry to disappoint you, but Hillary will be in jail by then, right where she belongs.
I think it’s important that we have a choice, but more importantly, it scares the crud out of me if we can’t get two people better than Hillary and Donald out of this entire country to be our nominees.
GNATTY, I’m hoping it won’t come down to that.
During the debate, Bernie Sanders tweeted:
“@BernieSanders: Does any GOPer care about whether or not a woman, rather than the gov’t, should make decisions regarding her own body? #DebateWithBernie”
I’ve also read in a couple of places that he was arrested in the 60s for demonstrating for desegregated schools in Chicago.
#FeelTheBern
Hilary will be in jail by then, most likely. If President Obama does pardon her and a host of other criminals (will he??) it will be on his last day in office the way Bill Clinton did on his last day.
In jail for what???
Ava. They all make last minute, controversial pardons before leaving office. Nothing new.
Oh GoodNames, I know you don’t like Hillary but do you really think she’s as low as Trump? I’m not thrilled with the Democrats so far but equating her with Trump is a bit unfair.
Um… jail for what now?
@Esmom
If I had to chose, I would vote for Hillary. I didnt mean really to equate her with Trump. I just meant I am not happy with either of them.
I’m liking The Donald so much more now for derailing everything and proving what a farce our political system is. These days, it’s all about celebrity. That started with Reagan and now it’s grown exponentially in the social media, content overload age. Government is a joke. No, I’m not a libertarian.
Jen Bush and Chris Chrustie (typo stays) both got lap-band surgery to seem more appealing (since they missed the boat on attractive at conception, where, clearly, f*ckable begins). Could any of history’s more principled or effective presidents get elected in this day and age? All I can say is, ladies, f*ck wisely from now on and choose only a physically attractive mate, as one day he (can’t say ‘she’ yet) might aspire to be President. ‘Cause if he ain’t attractive he’ll have to be a selfsploitation reality TV moron first. That’s called, “paying his dues” in the industry. And by the industry, I mean G’vernment.
If being physically attractive and alluring is a pre-requisite, The Donald needs to step down.
I agree with you most of the time GNAT, but I have to disagree here. I don’t think Hilary is going to jail EVER. I think it’s a lot more likely that she’ll be the next President than her even having charges brought against her.
Yeah, I know. I just said that to torture Maya. She won’t go to jail and she’ll probably be our next president.
It is but she only directed it to him. The question phrased differently should have been posed to all of them, because it is a huge problem for the party.
For once, I can actually side with Megyn Kelly here. That never happens.
Yeah, pretty cool that a Fox newscaster represented.
IK,R?
What I want to know how his daughter can still stand by him while its clear he is a male chauvinist ar*e.
Since he such chauvinist – how did he appoint his daughter as CEO of his companies???
“Since he such chauvinist – how did he appoint his daughter as CEO of his companies???..
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I would suspect Ivanka is in that position, because Trump does not think she will turn on him. And attempt to over throw him for control, one day.
If there is one thing that Ivanka is.. she is Daddy’s little girl. Plus isn’t she is the best educated, of his older set of children. And I suspect he has been grooming her for years, to be his one hard core loyal child.
Grown men will eventual get tired, of an overbearing Father’s, crap. So he has kept them in positions, were they can’t really question Trump decisions.
Trump seems like a very complex fella. On one hand he seems likeable but when he goes on a temper tantrum he sounds like an unhinged douchebag. I am less inclined to wonder how his daughter stands by him, as he probably treats her very differently than he does other people, and more apt to wonder why any American still supports him for President after all his crazy outbursts. Clearly he has touched the racist and misogynistoc parts of America which is so disturbing.
carol, you lost me at “on one had he seems likeable.” But I do agree that his relationship with his daughter is likely to be complex.
@Hautie “Grown men will eventual get tired, of an overbearing Father’s, crap. So he has kept them in positions, were they can’t really question Trump decisions.”
Wait, what? Are you saying that Trump’s sons are being kept on the sidelines because, as grown men, they would eventually try to stand up to The Donald, but that a grown woman would not. Simply because she is a woman?
The Donald may think that, because he apparently is a sexist moron. But I don’t think it works that way in the real world. (Or were you just outlining what Trump’s thinking would have been in appointing Ivanka CEO but not his chump sons?)
Men have very odd brains. I love my father, but he would sit at the dinner table and screech about women only getting promotions because of affirmative action, and then turn around and tell me how smart I was and that I could be anything I wanted to be. I guess daughters don’t fit into the “female” category for some men, and that’s probably what Trump thinks, too. All women are harpies except for his daughter.
yep yep.
THIS.
That’s what happens when you create a culture where a woman’s value is only defined by her relationships to other people (mostly men) rather than her inherent worth as a human being.
Hmm, a lot of people pondered the same questions about HILARY CLINTON and how she could stand by her womanizing husband (who by the way, also was accused of rape by a fellow student in England when he was a Rhodes Scholar). I just find it so very interesting all the talk about Trump being a misogynist or womanizer, and the same people complaining about it can’t wait to vote for a Clinton! “House of Cards” has nothing on the Clintons.
In which other instances do you think a wife is responsible for her husband’s actions?
How can any of their wives and daughters stand next to any of them with pride?
That answer is quite simple. The love of power & money.
I am an independent. I watched both of the debates (big table & kiddie table version) I was appalled by almost everything I heard. Carly F made the most sense in the kiddie table version & still said some ridiculous things & The Governor of Ohio made the most sense in the big table version. It looks to me as if Fox wants Rubio based on how & to whom the questions were queried.
I still want to know what Trump’s end game is as he is not, & he knows this, electable in a national election.
I rather regret watching the Canadian leaders debate and missing the Republician Debate. Ours was so tame!
Something must be seriously wrong with Donald, how can he honestly think he can be President when he makes comments like that?
It was cool to watch both and compare what a real debate should Be like, compared to a freak show. I’m glad my friend and I played a drinking game with the Canadian debate vs the GOP one, though.
I heard on the local radio that morning they recommend we only drink when they said something intelligent, otherwise the hospitals would be over capacity with victims of alcohol poisoning. 😃
My version of that was to drink every time Harper lied. I got wasted. I just wish Elizabeth May had a legit snow ball’s chance in hell to win.
I am conflicted about this one. Of course what he said is awful but I find it difficult to be sympathetic towards a woman who herself finds it difficult to be sympathetic to a 15 year old girl assaulted by a cop. Does this make me a bad feminist?
1/ Feminism is not sisterhood ( in my opinion)
2/ What Trump said is awfully misogynist
That video of the McKinney pool party horrified me beyond belief. I can’t explain why, maybe cos we are conditioned to see young girls as the most vulnerable in society and for another woman to actually say anything except outright condemnation was just such a disgusting moment for me.
Though like I said, super conflicted, Trump’s comment is beyond all decency.
I agree with you. She is awful too.
I don’t think you have to be sympathetic towards Megyn Kelly to find his remark incredibly offensive. He is pulling out the old “women are unreasonable and if they challenge you, it’s not because that’s their job, but because they’re having their period.” That’s an insult to ALL women.
I don’t understand why Trump became so angry with Megan Kelly reading back to him his own words. Why should he be treated with kid gloves, he’s the front runner. Donald T can give it but cannot take it.
Also, he did not want his four bankruptcies be mentioned. He wanted that to be kept quiet because he wants the voters to believe he’s such a great business man who can save the country. He talk about everyones’ fault but his is not to be mentioned. DT is a snake oil salesman and a lot of people are buying what he is selling, and it’s garbage. Has anyone heard one solution DT has made to any problem except to build a wall at the Mexican border and Mexico must pay for it. What nonsense. By the way, while they are building a wall the people will be building a tunnel under the ground to come in anyway.
Things are just going to get more heated. What would he do in a debate moderated by Rachael Maddow???
They will come by the coasts and through Canada or overstay their legal visas
omg, RAchel Maddow questioning Trump—I would pay money to see that. She’s so smart and yet disarming, he wouldn’t know what hit him. lol
Because Megyn Kelly was not sympathetic toward those young people does not excuse Donald T from from what he said about MK and several other women. He is nor fit to be anyone’s boss.
Don’t forget the Duggers!
I think there’s nothing wrong with your feminism, it’s called “nuance”, and something we are sorely lacking in American politics these days. We should ALL be able to agree with people on some points and disagree on others, rather than support our party/clique no matter what.
Agreed. I think this mentality has really ratcheted up since 9/11 when Bush said “you’re either with us or with the terrorists.” It’s depressing.
COMPLETELY AGREE. You can love your country in a nuanced way. It is not supposed to be the kind of love a child has for an alcoholic parent…putting up with it when it embarrasses you…AGAIN…when it forgets your birthday and doesn’t do right by you when its mealtime. You are meant to love your country in a way that inspires it to be better, and to call it out when it is not. Therefore, it is completely possible to agree with ASPECTS of a situation without buying the lot.
You see Donald Trump for the misogynist racist trash he is, but you also have a problem with Megyn Kelly for how she’s shown herself to be. None of that is anti-feminist. You can acknowledge that something a woman has said or done is problematic, and still have a problem with sexist things said about her that effect other women.
What is happening in the world? Here in Australia we have a complete deadshit for a PM and now you guys have not only the orange and bouffanted ridiculousness that is Trump in the running for the presidency BUT ANOTHER BUSH is gunning for it as well.
Oh my stars how did we come to this? Time to go off the grid methinks.
I’m coming with you, Snowpea.
Just yesterday Mr TMOT and I were talking about Australia being a good option if it gets too stoopid here!
Errrr I’d give it a few years just to be on the safe side trust lol
You might want to rethink that. Our current PM is particularly vile but here’s a few things that currently enjoy bipartisan support: gay marriage being illegal, locking up asylum seekers for years in offshore gulags, prosecution of any medical staff who report the sexual abuse of children in those gulags and even more draconian security legislation than the U.S. has.
” He connects with so much of the anger in the Republican base and is not afraid to be outspoken on a lot of issues.”
This is is scariest part of the article. If Trump represents Republicans who have bee lying I wait for 8 years then I am worried.
+1
And that’s why he’s so popular, because he completely does. The truly scary thing is he’s only saying what a lot of people are thinking. And the people who think like he does are glad someone’s speaking out. And while so many people think this Megyn Kelly thing is a ‘bridge too far’, I bet there are far more who agree that him or who were at least laughing along with him.
And that is what scares me. That these normal republican people are just as as the a***holes like Donald Trump who are gladly coming along with them. I hope the U.S. wakes up and look around them with this crybaby person who thinks that he is the one who can solve the U.S. problems without a safety. Is they think so, the AMERICA is not going to be great again.
I have a problem with what he said about Megyn Kelley (because it was typical political sexism. Not because of Megyn herself. I don’t like her either), but I don’t see how what he said here is any worse than his comments about Mexicans and rape. That should have been the straw that broke the camel’s back, but as other people mentioned, Megyn’s being a white (and presumably straight) republican must be the reason why he was disinvited. The fact that somebody even called Megyn a bimbo for her reason and questioning of this manbaby reveals a small glimpse at the kind of people who support The Dump. (whoever came up for that name for him a few posts back, I love it. I’m totally borrowing that for him).
Megyn Kelly is an attorney–hardly a lightweight. She’s also articulate and well-informed and could hold her own against any of the other women mentioned above. And, no, I am NOT a Republican and not a FOX news watcher.
I hope the cumulative effect of all of Trump’s childish insults result in him being ousted from every upcoming debate. Honestly, his retorts have none of the “brain power” he keeps regurgitating but instead sound like the brainless spouting of a petulant child.
If ever there were a Loser (and he loves to throw that term around), it is you, Mr. Trump.
Some group did a study and the only thing that made male CEOs/leaders care about equality is if/when they had a daughter.
Also in response to this only happening because Trump attacked this Megyn ‘the prettiest blonde princess of Fox News.’ Is that any surprise? Attractive/Put-Together men and women are treated better, defended more readily. Such is life.
Trump being a sexist asshat is like saying waters wet. I expect nothing from him but personal attacks because he’s a childish bully.
So childish. Can you imagine what he would say to another world leader? “Hey, you fat ugly loser…” That would be helpful, I’m sure.
You know that sticking his tongue out at his opponent is coming next.
Yes, while making a pfftttttt sound.
Trump obviously does not have the temperament to be President. End of Story.
Sarah Palin neither and see what happened
The McCain/Palin ticket was defeated in a landslide that year. They were never even close to winning.
Oompa Loompa doopididoo….. Going to drop a nuclear bomb on you, dodidido…
What would you do if you voted in Trump
Who’s got the intellect of a cat’s rump
You’d give the choice “To nuke or not to nuke?”
To an orange apelike kook.
(You made your bed now lie in it!)
That was fantastic.
\m/ \m/
👏
Just a question…is there a decent Republican possible candidate ?
(I remember that John McCain defended Obama when some republicans said he was Muslim and not American )
Not in my opinion. They all feel they have to appeal to the basest of their base. I doubt a Lincoln or even an Eisenhower would make it past the first couple of primaries today.
Sure McCain stated Obama wasn’t Muslim, but he showed such visible disgust at Obama during at least one of the debates (refusing to look at him or refer to him by name), his true colors were revealed.
Decent Republican candidate? That would probably be Jeb Bush. He was groomed to be president until his elder brother bumbled his way into the position. Of course, in my opinion, he’s tainted by the Terry Schaivo debacle.
not to mention the funny business in florida during the 2000 election.
Is being “groomed” the only thing he has going for him?
I think McCain was decent…but I also think he started to become unhinged as the election neared and he realized what his team had unleashed in Palin. You could just see his ambivalence like an aura. Or at least I did.
@Esmom, absolutely. The whole Palin thing was his downfall. For me, just bringing her on board made me question his judgement (especially as she started to show more and more of her true colors), but then his desperation as he realized what a mess it was made things even worse.
He did say he wasn’t a Muslim but he followed that with saying he was a good decent man, as if Muslim and decent were mutually exclusive.
I don’t know much about him but Kasick (sp?) from Ohio at least seemed like a reasonable person.
I liked Dr. Carson, except he is anti-choice. I only know a little bit about him from the debate, but I thought he seemed very intelligent and even tempered. He doesn’t have any experience in politics that I know of, and I haven’t decided whether or not that’s a good thing.
I don’t like Dr. Carson at all, He gives me the heebie jeebies, partly because it seems people’s first impression is that he’s intelligent and reasonable.
Anarchy could cancel the 2016 election
Carson warned in an interview in 2014 that if we “continue down this pathway that we are going down,” referring to “this pathway where everything is framed in a political sense and our representatives are not working for the people, they’re working for their party,” then the anarchy could lead to the 2016 election being called off. He claimed that the growing national debt, ISIS and the then-Democrat controlled U.S. senate’s refusal to consider legislation passed by the Republican House of Representatives all pointed toward the idea that the country is headed toward anarchy.
If Carson’s prediction proved to be true, he said, Obama could declare martial law and the 2016 election would not occur.
Congress should be able to remove judges for voting for marriage equality
In an interview with a conservative radio host earlier this year, Carson said it was “unconstitutional” that judges have ruled in favor of equality despite statewide ballot initiatives that resulted in different outcomes. Carson said that when federal judges make rulings like this, “our Congress actually has the right to reprimand or remove them.”
Needless to say, Carson’s assertion is incorrect. Congress cannot simply remove a judge for ruling in a way the majority disagrees with. Judges may only be removed for impeachable offenses, which the constitution defines as “treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/05/04/3646780/ben-carson-announcement/
Climate change: The climate change debate is “irrelevant.” Temperature change is cyclical.
Carson is not convinced that global warming is a threat or a proven trend. In an interview in November, he said, “there’s always going to be either cooling or warming going on” and called the climate debate “irrelevant.” The physician said it is a distraction from discussions about generally protecting the environment and about the role of the Environmental Protection Agency in regulation.
Education: No federally-determined standards. We need more school choice.
Carson told conservatives gathered at CPAC that “Common Core is not school choice,” and that public schools “don’t need some central government telling them” how to compete. The physician said he does believe in standards, but does not want a federal or central entity to set them. He supports vouchers and charter schools and has said that students who learn in home schools, private schools or charter schools outperform those taught in traditional public schools.
Guns: Few limits on ownership except for the mentally ill or those convicted of violent crime.
A physician who has operated on gun-wound victims, Carson has said he wants to keep semi-automatic weapons out of the hands of violent criminals and the mentally ill, especially in urban settings. Otherwise, he wants to give Americans as much access as possible to the weapons and argues that gun ownership is an important right and protection.
Health care: Replace the Affordable Care Act with health savings accounts.
In a 2013 Washington Times column, Carson proposed that the federal government give each American $2000 in a health savings account annually. Individuals could contribute an unlimited amount to their own accounts and also could transfer the money to other family members. He has written that the Affordable Care Act has helped some of the uninsured but at a high cost to others and to the health care system in general.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/ben-carson-believe-candidate-stands-10-issues/
It’s shocking how many people think Carson is a viable choice. His policies scare the bejesus out of me.
Dear God DO NOT like Ben Carson. Just because he’s the quietest of all the psychos doesn’t make him better, there’s a reason Johns Hopkins has washed their hands of him in this political game. He’s an idiot savant who managed to be good at surgery.
Oh. My. God. Cr and everybody. Thank you. I had NO idea of any of that. Wow. I guess I better do more research instead of just watching the debates. Thanks for the info.
I was impressed with John Huntsman in the 2012 primaries. But of course that means he never stood a chance, and I don’t see any of the candidates showing a similarly moderate and reasonable direction as he had this time around. He even talked about the fact that during primary debates, he was just astounded by the amount of crazy flying around him rhetoric wise. lol
Kasich came off as the most likable, normal candidate, but his politics are pretty much against things I care about as a moderate Democrat.
Seriously? No one here thinks Dr. Ben Carson is a decent candidate??? He’s a black man, worked his way through school despite being “underprivileged” and became one of the world’s foremost pediatric neurosurgeons.
Ben Carson is a black man who compared Obamacare to slavery. He went through medical school and doesn’t believe in evolution. He thinks being gay is a choice. If this is all copacetic with you, then God bless.
Thank you odesa for spelling out quite plainly why no one is/should be impressed by Ben Carson.
He managed to get where he is because of the government programs his mother qualified for only for him to become successful, turn around and bash the same programs. He’s a hypocrite and an idiot, in Maryland he’s considered a joke.
I think Donald Trump has shown us we need to stop holding up someone’s personal success as a barometer of their ability to actually help or lead anyone.
You have to look at his political beliefs, not his background/success.
I have worked at Johns Hopkins hospital for about a decade, so I’m pretty familiar with Dr. Carson. I will say that, yes, he is a brilliant neurosurgeon. However, I have known many brilliant surgeons and doctors at Hopkins- that doesn’t mean I would want any of them to be president! He has spoken at a lot of “pro-life” events. He also has a dangerous mindset about black people in America. The area in East Baltimore where Johns Hopkins is located has its share of crime, drug and gang activity,poverty and abandoned houses. Dr. Carson believes that just because he was a poor black young man who went through school and became a surgeon, every young man he sees dealing drugs or getting arrested threw away his opportunity to become the next Ben Carson. He will always be seen as a great doctor, but his political beliefs are scary.
The Governor of Ohio. Kashich but lets face it he’s probably an actual Republican & old school conservative. The new Republican isn’t the old guard, they’re actually neo-Christians & angry white men labeling themselves as Republican so they can gain political power.
Yes yes and yes.
I don’t understand why Trump became so angry with Megan Kelly reading back to him his own words. Why should he be treated with kid gloves, he’s the front runner. Donald T can give it but cannot take it.
Also, he did not want his four bankruptcies be mentioned. He wanted that to be kept quiet because he wants the voters to believe he’s such a great business man who can save the country. He talk about everyones’ fault but his is not to be mentioned. DT is a snake oil salesman and a lot of people are buying what he is selling, and it’s garbage. Has anyone heard one solution DT has made to any problem except to build a wall at the Mexican border and Mexico must pay for it. What nonsense. By the way, while they are building a wall the people will be building a tunnel under the ground to come in anyway.
Oh f*ck you, Trump. Making me side with Megyn Kelley. The Donald is just a horrible turd and really only there to make the other candidates more palatable. The only turd who doesn’t realize this is Trump himself.
A period joke … goddamn it. A few years ago a German politician made a boob-related remark to a female journalist at a hotel bar (I think) and it caused an uproar. Had a candidate for the office of chancellor done it, that would have been the end of that run. But then again, we like to pretend our politicians have integrity. It’s all under the surface where we like it. Ugh. Now I’m thinking maybe I’d like it better out in the open even if it means THIS.
Welcome to America.
We’re a f-cked up bunch.
That is strange, I was under the impression that everyone at Fox is hormonal and always on their period regardless their sex.That is why they are the number 1 cable news. Always on the rag! Sorry Fox, you reap what you sow.
You’re absolutely right!
I have a much different take on what is going on here. Take a look at the time in the election cycle- this is when the clowns are supposed to come tumbling out of the car, beating each other up for our enjoyment. This is our foreplay, getting us all hot and bothered for the real event.
Donald Trump is a fluffer.
What scares me is that this election will become about fox news-type ‘politics’ and that it will play out social media style. Whatever gets the most attention wins.
I hope that if there are any reasonable candidates out there that they see this ship-storm coming.
Hey, I almost forget, has anyone noticed people are more focus on Donald Trump’s ignorance that the Kardashians-Jenner’s incessant exposure. Finally, less on the Kardashians and with fingers crossed, they may go away, please go ahead Donald.
Kim will be getting a selfie with him next.
I’m not so sure about that as she just posted a selfie and her support for Hillary.
Suzanne- Trump as a fluffer – I like your idea a LOT. I mentioned it to my guy and he was quick to agree. It certainly IS a circus. Every cycle is worse than the one before. I cringe at what life will be like in 20, 30 years and beyond.
I think Trump is in league with the Clintons. He won’t win the nomination, and he will run as an independent, handing the election to the Democratic candidate. Then the Donald will get something in return.
You and I think alike on this, GNAT.
Completely, totally agree. He’s the projected wizard head distracting from the man (woman) behind the curtain.
What will he get in return, She’ll have to go to his Birthday party this time?
@o_o_odesa: LOL…good one!
Wow. Cynical. Why is Hillary going to prison GNAT?
i was just sort of teasing. She won’t go to prison. But she lied about have classified information on her personal computer while she was Secretary of State, and once again didn’t turn over the documents she was supposed to. She was found out because other people turned over relevant documents addressed to her on her personal email account that she had omitted. But nothing ever happens to her, so I doubt it will this time, either.
The buffoons will provide a smoke screen for someone like Santorum or Bush to appear as reasonable choices by comparison.
I think Trump being in the GOP race is a HUGE benefit for the GOP. Do I think he will be the nominee? No. Do I think he should ever be President, oh hell no! Do I think he says offensive things? Constantly. But what he is doing is forcing the other GOP candidates’ hands – and that is a good thing. Too often, our politicians are not challenged by the media. They stick to reporters, journalists and media outfits that are friendly to them. Trump has exposed – most bluntly – the ugly underbelly of money in our political system. He openly admits how money buys access (i.e. he bought Hillary’s attendance to his wedding) and that the wealthy do indeed control government. He admits to doing it himself because that’s simply how the game is played. Of course, we’ve all known this all along, but how refreshing is it to hear someone who participates in it actually ADMIT to it? As to Megyn Kelly’s question to Trump – was it unfair? Maybe, but let’s be honest – he was going to be asked that question eventually by someone on the other side of the aisle. Megyn was smart to get the question out there now BEFORE Trump got too far along in the primary. One would think Trump is smart enough to have figured this out – that he would eventually be asked about this and that it’s better to get it out of the way earlier rather than later. But no….because he’s an ass. But still, a very beneficial ass to the other candidates. He provides contrast – which is desperately needed when the rest of the candidates (on both sides of the aisle) seem so boring and stale.
Unless he runs as an independent. Then he will assure a Dem victory.
If he does that, I will be super p*ssed. I honestly think he only wants to be president because he’s decided it’s a sound business decision for HIM. Plus, he he just can’t stand to lose.
Yes, I don’t think he does anything because of altruism or a call to duty – he’s in this for himself.
Except he frequently lies and rather than being asked substantial questions the other party members are now asked questions only in relation to him. Now to score a few points all you literally have to say is, “Of course I don’t agree with Trump’s recent comments.”
Of course then you risk Donald lambasting you and going after you like a starving pitbull.
Trump is deranged. He would start a world war if he were president. I could not imagine such a vulgar clown in office.
The good news about Trump running is that we got Bloom County back.
I can’t believe that he hasn’t taken credit for that, actually. 🙂
Give him time, ncboudicca, give him time.
Trump really can’t be bogged down with these minor issues like “key debates” and “discussing the issues in an intelligent way,” he is looking beyond the mundane because that is what he is, a visionary. He is currently scouting the farthest reaches for the proper gold leaf foil to plaster in the Oval Office. He is pre-ordering bolts and bolts of damask because if there is one thing we know, there is not enough damask in the White House. He has also reserved a fleet of McLarens to replace the staid town cars used in the motorcade and just wait until you see the new ties and pocket squares designed for the Secret Service!
His biggest task at hand, however, is deciding whether he will have his people call him Trumpius Caesar or Brainius Caesar.
I hope Brainius Caesar guarantees us all access to spray-tan booths, so we can mimic our glorious leader in the most flattering of ways!
I certainly hope so too, especially since his motto for the campaign is “USA – what we need is Brain and Flattery; except you are being kind of snippy so now I am not sure I will give you either.”
The marble statues he is commissioning to be placed in every city’s center are proving problematic as he is insisting we use REAL HAIR.
“Real hair”. I just spit out my drink, LOL
I live in rural PA and was out yesterday in antique and second hand stores, I was appalled at the conversations I heard yesterday. To quote a few tidbits I heard. “Trump says what we’re all thinking and feeling”. “Trump understands how fed up us “real” Americans are” “Trump had every right to be offended by Megyn” I stopped shopping went to the liquor store bought some wine and went home to wash the ugliness off of me.
I live in rural PA and was out yesterday in antique and second hand stores, I was appalled and the conversations I heard yesterday. To quote a few tidbits I heard. “Trump says what we’re all thinking and feeling”. “Trump understands how fed up us real Americans are” “Trump had every right to be offended by Megyn” I stopped shopping went to the liquor store bought some wine and went home to wash the ugliness off of me.
According to my republican relatives, Hussein Obama will declare marshall law and halt the elections… so we don’t need to worry our pretty little heads about any of this now.
Save a glass for me, will you?
We must be related…and I will join you in a glass of wine.
Ugh, I live in a pretty liberal area but I have still heard “Trump is just saying what people are afraid to say” or “like it or not, most of the country agrees with Trump.” Ugh no just no.
I’m beginning to wonder if Trump isn’t a Democratic sleeper agent designed to bring the GOP down and put Hillary in office. He’s an idiot if he thinks women are buying his rhetoric.
As an independent, I’m leaning towards Hillary or Bernie Sanders. But, I will wait until the Democratic debates to make my final decision. However so far the GOP candidates are providing great entertainment this election cycle. The clown car is full.
On the contrary, I feel like he is detracting from all of the disgusting and horrifying comments being made by the other Republican candidates. There were so many scary and ridiculous statements made during the debate by other candidates that no one is even talking about because Donald Trump steals the show every time.
That’s OK, I think some Democrat candidates say disgusting and horrifying things too. But Donald trumps all (see what I did there?).
This country would much better off if we weren’t so divided. If we could find some common ground and not feel the need to vilify each other.
I completely agree @Crumpet, but I’m just not too thrilled with a party whose platform is based on stomping on women’s rights, and who can’t seem to leave their religious beliefs behind closed doors.
The Donald Trump issue should be the least of all of our concerns. Of course, he flubbed, as we knew he would because he has a ridiculously hot temper that he clearly doesn’t even bother tot try to control. I’m just going to keep saying this over and over again incase there is even one person who doesn’t know about it since it isn’t getting any media coverage:
There was a lot of outlandish stuff said by other candidates, one of which, Scott Walker, is in second place for the job in some polls (some have Jeb Bush behind Trump as number 2 and Scott Walker as number 3). Walker’s stance on abortion is that it should be completely illegal including in cases of incest, rape, and instances when childbirth would kill the mother. He claims that there are “other ways” to safely deliver a child without killing the mother which is a ridiculous statement.
There was also the fact that the debate got incredibly weird when during the video question segment, someone asked the candidates if God has ever spoken to them directly. Why was this question even asked? Who allowed it? How does it help us decide if a candidate has good policies or would be a good president? This ridiculous question led to Ted Cruz and John Kasich pontificating about how God wants America to be great again, and how God has blessed the Republican Party with such great candidates. This should alarm people. What about the separation of church and state?
And then there is Huckabee, whose response was that our military is “not a social experiment” when asked if he would allow transgender people to enlist in the military. He went on further to say that “our military’s job is to kill people and hurt things.” Seriously? What a stupid statement to make. That is not all that our military does. We currently have Marines over in Cuba helping to build a port. We also have an incredible Corp of Engineers who build things. I could go on.
All of this got swept under the rug thanks to Donald Trump and his incessant need to be in the spotlight.
The God question – I chose to see that as an ironic question, to pull out the Jesus freaks. I actually thought it was a good question. I wanted every single one of them to answer so I would know who was getting direct orders from above and see if they contradicted each other. I thought they all evaded the question, when this was the time they could have gone full on crazy and the crowd would have cheered them all while shooting their guns in the air.
Good point, Daria. I could not believe Scott Walker saying it has been “proven” that “there are other ways to save the mother, as if there’s only one set of circumstances in which the mother’s life would be in danger. Or Huckabee saying it has been “proven” that life begins at conception because of DNA. Well of course some sort of life begins at conception. That’s not the question – it’s whether that life is a human being with rights, etc. And you’re right that Teump is what people are focusing on and they (including me) should be taking a closer look at these other things.
And, no I don’t know who Teump is. Sorry. I meant Trump.
He has to be trolling us. It’s funny because he used to be a HIlary Clinton supporter ! Is this all a big scheme because he wants Hilary to win and thinks she can’t do it on her own? He wants to make himself (and republicans) look so bad that the whole country votes for Hilary lol. Then he’ll say he single-handedly got Hilary elected lol.
Trump has always been a bully and has always been thin-skinned. He attacks in an immature, unprofessional way when he doesn’t like what is being said to him.
Why any intelligent human being would think he would ever be a good president is beyond me, because having some of the traits he does is horrible in running a country. Just because he’s smart enough to run businesses and thus can get away with being a bully and rude and misogynistic or overlook it because he’s rich and powerful in no way means he should ever be considered for the presidency because diplomacy and being able to take criticism and deal with opposing views or hard questions in a mature manner is critical. His temper and bullying reaction often makes him ill-equipped to ever be our president. It would frighten me to have him as our president and what prediciments he could get us into because of his ego and bullying temper.
I guess the answer is intelligent people don’t think he would make a good president. As far as who his supporters are, then that leaves people that are. . .
I’m really confused, maybe someone can help explain to me? I’m not American, but does anyone in the world wants a leader who seems to have a blatant and insulting temper all the time? Plus every picture I’ve seen of him, he somehow looks like he’s shouting at someone, and he keeps saying all the wrong things. Can you imagine him meeting world leaders or speaking at a UN assembly? How is he still in the running for presidency?
I’m not saying world leaders should be zen all the time (though I’m sure it helps). There’s time for fire and ice, but if he’s running for premiership in my country, I certainly would be too apprehensive to vote for him.
Most Americans would not vote for him. Right now we are in primary season where Republican voters are choosing who they want to run against the Democratic nominee in the General election. There is a portion of the Republican Party that loves the angry and blunt style of Trump. I believe (and pray I am right) that the republicans will not nominate this bozo and if they do he will lose in the General election.
@JoanEleanor, I honestly think more than anything people are just enjoying the entertainment right now. He has his fans who’ve loved his outspoken personality, and maybe some people who watch his show and are considering voting for him, but the average American is not going to put this guy into power. It’s just a spectacle.
Don’t worry, people aren’t actually taking him seriously. Donald Trump is like a real-life cartoon character with a lot of money, and as much as money talks, it can’t talk over his disgusting personality and unprofessional behavior.
It couldn’t happen to a nicer political party.
*claps slowly and luxuriously*
I hope he keeps making crazy comments and attacking everyone. I hope he makes Fox News an enemy. I hope he convinces more poor conservative that Fox News is part of the liberal media. I hope he insults and throws everything that has made up this Republican structure back in the face of every single individual. I hope they try so hard to bury him that they end up damaging themselves. I hope they’re forced to nominate him only to watch him pronounce each one of their ideals and opinions as loudly and ugly as possible. Or better yet that they don’t nominate him and he runs on that third ticket and splinters their party into an segment that can not be redeemed.
Fingers crossed, hope it’s just like this.
“I hope they try so hard to bury him that they end up damaging themselves.”
He is the living, shouting personification of their own internal party turmoil; the rogue base element and crazy Freudian nightmare part of their identity that will bring the divided house down upon their heads.
Or at least I, too, hope so.
@The Eternal Side-Eye, I have to agree with you here. Fox News has been getting away with their “you’re either on our side and sharing our view points or you are waging war against our wholesome Christian values” bullsh*t for far too long. There is nothing Christian about the hatred they spew toward anything and anyone who doesn’t agree with them, and as I’ve said repeatedly in multiple posts here, their religious beliefs have NO place in politics. I will repeat it ad nauseam: separation of church and state.
I don’t even have a word for him. Calling him an ass is an insult to donkeys everywhere. I’m a little terrified that any of the GOP might take the next presidency. I live in Ohio and Kasich has destroyed the economy and the public education here to the point of almost no return. I shudder to think of the damage he could do to the country.
Oh jeez…. and here I thought he was the only reasonable sounding one at the debate. I don’t know anything about him other than the debate…. not that I am a republican primary voter but I like to keep an eye on things.
@Jen, I was a little surprised to see how many people looked at Kasich favorably after the debate and even referring him as more moderate. I personally thought he was saying exactly the same things the rest of them were, only he was more discreet and polite about it.
That’s pretty much what Scott Walker has done in Wisconsin. The state economy is in a shambles and Walker is on record as saying high school dropouts should be allowed to become teachers.
I’m thinking Marquette most have done a job on him. While Marquette is a private institution, his attack against education somehow seems personal. He most have taken a C- or a D one too many times.
I will always try and give an alternative view point, particularly when ‘the people’ claim to speak on my behalf, either as a Brit or a woman. BUT, in this case there is no alternative point of view, the guy is a monumental j**k.
Jerk? Yes, he’s a giant JERK.
I wonder if we will see this happen – Trump goes independent with Palin as a running mate.
Oh goodness what a display it would be hahaha
I hope there’s a lesson here for Megyn Kelly and women like her. Turning yourself into a blonde-bot and sucking up to conservative Neanderthals doesn’t put you on the level of a man in their eyes. They can still reduce your value in a few words to a silly hormonal woman. The only way to raise your status in society is to support rights for women. It doesn’t mean you have to like or agree with all women, but deferring to the patriarchy only empowers men like Trump.
Good point, and very true regardless of whether or not anyone wants to admit to it. I’m totally harping on the anti-abortion stance that all of the candidates hold so dearly but I have to ask, can we all just take a step back and consider how UNNATURAL it is to have a group of 10 men standing around talking about how they don’t believe women have the right to choose what they do with their own bodies? We can choose to accept their ridiculous excuse that it’s only because of their religious beliefs, but at the end of the day, these are men who don’t believe women should have the right to decide on something as important as whether or not they bring a child into this world. Why is that? It seems more and more like it is because they have a poor opinion of women. I’ve read the argument made against Planned Parenthood that they “all but make women feel like it is their duty to abort their child!” What kind of nonsense is that? In other words, women are complete idiots who are easily swayed to flippantly end their pregnancies and we are in dire need of men with conservative values to make this decision for us. Poor stupid little women are just not capable of making such an important decision on our own!
You’re spot on that the only way to raise our status in society is to support each other, but the patriarchal mindset that once ruled this country is still deeply embedded in some people. As far as religious beliefs–hold back on weekly donations and watch how fast churches changes their tune about being pro-abstinence and anti-everything else.
I’m a moderate voter, so I always give both sides the benefit of the doubt but it is getting really hard to take the Republican party seriously if they’re going to fight so hard to keep this country in the 1950s. How can we all be expected to take them seriously when they give radically conservative morons like Scott Walker, Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee the chance to extoll their antiquated opinions and views on things? It’s well past time for them to get real. The majority of the country is in favor of the things that they’re so adamantly railing against.
Daria (great name, btw) – I really hate the abortion debate. I am fiercely pro-choice, but I also strongly believe the abortion issue is largely a smokescreen. Some percentage of unwanted pregnancies are the result of birth control failing when two mature, consenting adults have consensual sex, but the vast majority are the result of lack of access, lack of knowledge, sexual coercion, or rape. If women and women’s health were held in higher regard, abortion would be a much smaller issue. I myself was the product of two careless college kids getting inebriated. I was unplanned but ultimately wanted by two young people who had bright futures and family support. They had a choice. A privileged middle-class choice and they made it work. I attribute this to three factors: consent, education, and economic opportunity, which in combination result more often in the “choice” to bring a pregnancy to term. So if one truly opposes abortion, they would fight for a society in which everyone has these conditions.
That’s an amazingly thoughtful and well-said point, Bettyrose. Thank you.
I admit to a bit of gratifying schadenfreude watching her get Trumped by the extreme version of the sort of misogynistic jackals she’s chosen to represent and pander to.
Trump made a deal with Bill Clinton to get Hillary elected in case he is not the nominee. Duh.
I don’t understand how any woman could vote for the GOP. They actively fought against the Equal Pay for Women Act (Ledbetter) in Congress. Do women enjoy making roughly .79 cents for every $1 a man makes?? I don’t. That alone should be a deal breaker, but noooo…people just love to vote against their own self interests.
The GOP spent the debate bashing teachers and teacher unions. My mom is in a teacher’s union and the big thing it did…was sue the state. Why? Because the state had hidden the fact that they underpaid female teachers by 1,000s of $$ since the 1970s and had no intention of stopping (can’t legally force them to without Equal Pay Act). The teacher’s union was the only political group strong enough to have lawyers and fight the system for equal pay. That’s why the GOP hates the teachers union.
And the pro-life thing drives me nuts. I almost never see pro-life families adopting children, but many said families having many of their own kids. The hypocrisy of demanding women have children, and then not being willing to provide any social safety net to help those mothers or the foster system raise them.
The perception of entitlements and “welfare queens” is mostly untrue. How many millions of $$ do corporations sneak away offshore and hide from taxes?? It’s more than our welfare system pays out, but only one of those issues comes up in GOP debates consistently. 40% of food stamps go to buy children school breakfast and lunch. Who doesn’t want to feed poor kids? All my family above 65 are Republican, but you better not mess with their Social Security! Why do their benefits qualify as ‘legit’ but my friends who were laid off in the recession (with college degrees) and collected unemployment for about 1 year (after paying into the system while working) are ‘moochers’?
I couldn’t agree with your post more.
It annoys me to have to defend the woman who soft peddled all her questions to the Duggars and painted them as religious martyrs because they let their son get away with molesting their daughters. Where was her concern for women then?
Having said that, Trump’s reaction to her questioning him is so pathetically, predictably textbook-a page out of every whiny ass men’s right’s playbook-
Oh god, a WOMAN questioned ME, a MAN???
She must be:
On her period
“angry”
Needing a lesson in how to be “nice”
I’m only surprised that he didn’t imply that she needed to get laid.
The bottom line is that all the pearl clutching by the GOP is ridiculous because he only said bluntly what they have been saying in cloaked terms for years. The GOP hates women. HATES them. They consider women to be a means to an end, and that is it. And it concerns me that Trump’s histrionics only makes the rest of them seem sane and acceptable by comparison.
THIS. That is why I’m a moderate independent in a family full of conservative Republicans. The current crop of GOP candidates are only pandering to their base so far, but come the general election they will have to sway independent voters, including women, Hispanics and other minorities. So far none of the candidates on that side of the isle represent me and my beliefs, which means unless the GOP changes their mindset and platform, this WOMAN will never vote Republican.
This story even ended up on the latest news on the German channel RTL. Embarrassing.
I don’t think Trump will actually get the nomination. Saying you’ll vote for him and actually doing it is a whole different thing. It’s not as if he could get anything done. His known policies and his attitude would turn everybody off. More importantly he would start WW3. Can you imagine how he would treat foreign leaders?
not worth it
Megyn Kelly sucks, but I think Donald Trump must have a very small penis.
And yes, absolutely Scott Walker should have been called out for his comment about letting a woman die rather than have a life saving abortion. It was hideous that they let that slide. Ergo, my first comment. Megyn Kelly sucks as a journalist and BTW she can’t spell her name.
micro-penis. This explains everything.
I’ve never knowingly boinked a woman-hating jagoff, so I’m not an expert on the correlation between penis size and douchery (which is to say I’ve seen the spectrum of sizes and all were attached to decent guys I’d gladly be friends with). But I’m increasingly noticing a dichotomy between men who view sex as pleasurable for all involved and men who see it as a tool of control. It’s weird that sex is now the defining issue for the two major parties in the U.S., but it is and thus a division is clear: some people consider it a fun recreational activity that requires necessary precautions for safety (like water skiing) and others consider it a manner of total domination in which the recipient of the act (presumed to be a woman in a heterosexual context) is lowered in value for participating in the act, and thus has no right to protective measures that make the act safer and more enjoyable. That last sentence was confusing even as I typed it. Can we please discuss something other than sex in this election season??
Of course he did.
This thought of this idiot Trump becoming Commander in Chief is frightening. He’s immature enough to send troops over to another country because its leader insulted him. Or push Congress to tear up a trade agreement because some chancellor/PM/monarch, whatever, throws shade at him on social media. Trump plays on anger for his rise in the polls. Sadly people tend to learn the hard way what happens when you make decisions based on emotions.
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I hope the moderator at the first Democratic debate asks Sanders about his article stating it’s every woman’s fantasy to be raped by 3 men simultaneously
Gah. That article makes me sick and if Trump had written it I’d be arguing it was indefensible. However, given that it was written in 1971, I’ll say this. Back then, even the most dedicated feminists had some difficulty discussing domination fantasies. Sanders didn’t grow up reading Our Bodies Ourselves like my generation did. But if he had, he would have understood the linguistic difference between domination and rape. Do some women fantasize about being sexually dominated by multiple men? You bet. Do some men fantasize about tying women up? Sure. Is that rape? No. Rape is about taking away control and hurting someone. Sexual domination fantasies involve all parties being aroused and satisfied in mutually agreed upon scenarios. Unfortunately, the term “rape fantasies” complicated the issue in the early days of sexual liberation.
Important difference. Thanks for that
i know more republicans than democrats and i still cant find one person who thinks he’s sane, let alone wants to vote for him
I don’t think he meant her vagina when he said “where ever.” He was trying to make a point of her out for blood in exaggeration didn’t think that “where ever” might sound like.
That being said he has misogynistic tendencies and women are second class people to him.
I haven’t been able to read all of these comments. But I just gotta say right up front…. This is one time any white/western beauty ideal privilege has caused something positive – the widespread acceptance that Trump is a dangerously volatile misogynist who has no business wielding any meaningful power. Especially in the public sector.
Yes, Trump should be eviscerated for the way he personally attacks and degrades any woman of whatever age, shape, size, hue, etc. But I’m not mad that he’s getting called out now. Even if the trigger was a small, pretty, young, white, straight blonde girl.
On another note, Trump is just being Trump. But I feel like Willy Wonka’s creepy right hand man is already going around whispering stuff into candidates’s ears. Trump is making all of those other fools look like almost decent, reasonable, intelligent options. Almost.
Many people like Trump for the fact that he is not always ‘politically correct’. He’s not afraid to speak on subjects that many Americans are getting fed up with. He will never be elected but I think he’s popular because people are enjoying watching him make some squirm with his blatant words about immigration and such. I think Megyn went into that debate intent on calling Trump out. Wish they would do the same with Hillary! And no, I would never vote for Trump.
It will be interesting to see if America appoints this pr*ck as President – I worry that they salute and pedestal ‘celebrity’ and they have lost all sense of reality and that he could actually become one of the most powerful men in the world – that truly would be a frightening day!
As an Aussie looking at your election i feel so sorry for you all. But also for the rest of the world because holy doly what if, no really what if, this guy or a lunatic like him gets in.
again, as a non us citizen looking in, it seems like Obama is a great President and its a shame he cant be reelected. maybe i’m wrong since i’m not living there but from what the rest f us are seeing he’s done a great job