I covered a lot of Donald Trump-Megyn Kelly stuff yesterday – go here to recap. As anyone could have predicted, Donald Trump is still pissed off that a woman would dare ask him about his well-documented history of misogyny and his history of making derogatory, insulting and sexist comments about women. The Daily Beast has been doing a decent job of pulling out all of Trump’s previously documented cases of bad behavior too – like the time he poured a glass of wine down a female journalist’s back. He also has said, on the record, that “you have to treat women like sh-t.”
Trump did interviews with several of the big Sunday morning political shows and he was asked about the Megyn Kelly situation. Trump claims that when he said Kelly had “blood coming out of her wherever” was totally misconstrued: “I was going to say nose and/or ears, because that’s a very common statement… I went to the Wharton School of Finance. I was an excellent student. I’m a smart person. I built a tremendous company. You think I’d make a stupid statement like that?” Um, yes, we do believe you’d make a stupid and misogynistic statement because you have a history of making those kinds of statements.
Trump also refused to apologize for anything he said or tweeted about Megyn Kelly, saying: “There’s nothing to apologize (for) … I thought she asked a very, very unfair question. What I said was totally appropriate. There was nothing wrong. Only a deviant, and I literally mean that, only a deviant would think anything other than that. What I said was totally fine. I apologize when I’m wrong. But I haven’t been wrong. I mean, I said nothing wrong.” Beyond the “did he say a female critic was on her period?” discussion, I actually find this more offensive: the idea that Megyn Kelly asked Trump an “unfair” question. She did not. She asked him about his well-documented history of verbally abusing women. The question went to his history with women, it went to the Republican party’s history of alienating women, and it went to Trump’s unpresidential temper. And Trump literally proved Megyn Kelly’s point in the aftermath of the debate.
Oh, and Trump is now saying that Megyn Kelly SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO HIM. For asking him a question. Seriously. He told Morning Joe: “She should really be apologizing to me, you want to know the truth. And other candidates have said that.” He also said when Megyn was moderating the debate, she “starts talking gibberish and a stupid question.” Those are his words.
Just note: Megyn hasn’t said anything about Trump this entire time. She has not reacted to his insults whatsoever, which is smart. Her show comes on tonight on Fox News, so I wonder if she’s just saving her comments for her own show, which is also smart.
The latest poll still has Trump as the leader in the GOP field with 23%. He’s followed by the senator from Canada, Ted Cruz. Trump also lost a major campaign advisor, Roger Stone, this weekend. Stone says he quit. Trump says he was fired. Meh.
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He is such a classic narcissist and bully. In his mind, it’s always someone else’s fault, never his. He thinks he is brilliant and if you disagree he says rude things about you and insults you rather than have an intelligent debate or discussion about the facts. He is such a loser. Pathetic!
He’s gross. The fact that he is leading with the GOP says much about that party, to me it says its filled with sad, backwards, hate filled, small minded people.
Just keep in mind that it doesn’t really mean anything that he’s ‘leading’ now. This is the point in the lead up to primary season that the crazies get their moment.
Is this not a GOP game of bad vs. good cop with screenplay written by The Donald’s PR team?
I assumed the screenplay included all the details with manager claiming he quit and the Donald claiming he fired him. This all ends with Donald getting dramatically ousted from the GOP but he’ll claim he quit the party.
I don’t believe any of this was not scripted. The Donald is sort of the Simon Cowell of the GOP. I assume Trump struck a deal with the GOP after he insisted he would run. They wanted to contain the damage, so they are giving him his time in the sun.
Exactly
+ Infinity.
I think this is more than just ego driven bluster..all night tweeting about being picked on? I think he has serious psychological problems beyond having the coping skills of a child.
Totally agree.
He is such a sleaze even the king of sleaze Roger Stone quit his ass.
Hold your breath Donald, please
Overcooked turkey.
with a dead marmot on its head.
Poor thing. Died for nothing.
Well, at least it doesn’t have to look at or listen to Trump.
I want to marry this exchange between you two.
Seriously. If he is so rich why he use such cheap looking fake tanner?
I want to believe that’s his actual skin color- that years of being a vile, hateful turd are bubbling up to the surface and making him orange.
He is so f*cking Gross.
Indeed. Reading or watching anything about Trump gives me gas. Must stop.
hahahahahh!
He reminds me of men like Scott Rudin and David O’Russell.. but I saw too many women in support of those two because they were “powerful men”.. won awards.. .. well just the same in different packages.. Men that get pissed when a woman actually has a voice and doesn’t do what they want her to do. .HOW DARE SHE..
He’s followed by the senator from Canada, Ted Cruz.
Thank you, Kaiser, that just made my day BWAHAHAHAHAHA
Loved that sentence too. I’m home sick and when I read that I may have snorted. Thanks to Kaiser for clearing out my sinus cavity! 🙂
Oh no. Don’t even THINK about trying to send Cruz back up here. No, no, no. He’s ALL yours now. A more un-Canadian person does not exist.
WORD.
This is what happens when you surround yourself with a bunch of synchophants. He’ s always referring to “other people ” have said I was in the right. Naturally, because anyone that challenges Trunp will be subjected to a similar assault!
He has been known as loud mouth since forever. Atacking people verbale and his nastiness is well known. He is sarounded by a great protective shield ( legals ) and other watch dogs so he is always allowed to get away with foolish remarks. This man deosnt give his apologies for free, everything have coast for him. Rest of his family is just about the same.
Does he not understand that being a candidate and especially a President, you have to deal with criticism and all sorts or questions/topics? He is too touchy, super sensitive and looses his temper way too easily. He’s also very arrogant, cocky and not humble – he does not know how to deal with different types of people, cultures, situations, etc. And he has no couth. NOT the type of person who should be running a country. In my personal opinion, he’s a joke.
Yup, not to mention the fact that he’s contemptuous of women. Anyone who would vote for this guy to serve as any kind of emissary for our country is nuts.
That’s just it. He’s not a candidate. He’s marketing his favorite brand – The Donald.
Rush Limbaugh seems to have a bromance going with Trumpty-Dumpty–maybe it’s a case of deep calling to deep. Both of the above comments could be used to describe Rush, and we can add to that that they’re both huge braggarts who refuse to admit error of any sort ever, but instead double down on whatever crass or hateful remark they are being called out for.
I wonder if they think Megyn should apologize on her knees, because it would be such a pretty picture.
When I read stuff like this I am always happy I live in a Monarchy where we can hide behind the “we cannot chose our queen/king”.
We choose our Presidents and prime ministers, but reading about him makes them all look so sane and wholesome that it’s hard to even complain about them. We usually vote not for the best one, but for the least crazy one, but none of them seems to come close to Trump in their idiocy – and it says a lot.
I mean – we had a presidential candidate who once run around town with a basket full of dildos, condoms and little vodka bottles and handed them to folks outside Catholic Churches to anger the clergy.
Another one tried to ban Teletubbies in our country, because the purple one, who he thinks is a boy, runs around with a purse.
There is also one former parliament member, who threatens to start in the upcoming elections and she is famous for turning every political interview into a sex talk. I don’t know anything about her political program, but I know that she loves sex as a horse loves oats and that her friends think she has whore-sparkles (she made up that world – it’s a rough translation) in her eyes.
Woohoo! Poland stronk! I didn’t know that Renata Beger and her whore-sparkles (beautiful translation BTW) are making a come back. Shame that she missed presidential elections.
Sometimes I think Idiocracy is becoming true.
I’m positive.
Trump’s got electrolytes.
This is all such a sh–t show, nothing he does surprises me anymore. Either he is in league with the Clintons and trying to throw the election as much as possible to fully ensure Hillary wins (not that I believe the current ultra-conservative candidates need any help throwing the election on their own), or he is trolling us all because he is a man who lives for attention.
All I know is that because of his ridiculous behavior, none of the other disturbing things being said by other candidates is getting any attention. I don’t believe the polls that people are seriously interested in this man as president, I think the majority of people are just really entertained by him.
Has he ever apologised for anything?
Good question. I don’t think he has.
Well, he has said sorry before. Like, sorry you were insulted by me insulting you but you know, whatever. Sorry you’re such a fat pig.
Giggle out loud.
Meygan is loving the attention plus its going to help with rating at Fox. They know Donny’s a turf. He’s said a lot of fowl things over the years.
I have regarded him as a good businessman but damn..his personality sucks!
A good businessman doesn’t generally declare bankruptcy three times.
He’s not intelligent, cultured, creative, altruistic, kind, generous, reflective, empathetic or anything positive really. In fact, he doesn’t possess any redeemable qualities at all. I wouldn’t even want him as a friend, much less as a president.
From what I understand, he got lucky in the real estate market with his dad’s money. The only thing he is truly good at marketing is himself. He knows that what he says will put him in the headlines, good or bad. He was the original Kardashian!
Amen, kitten
Bam! right on point with that statement!
He also has absolutely no sense of humor, as evidenced by him sending proof to Bill Maher that he wasn’t fathered by an orangutan.
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=bill+maher+and+donald+trump+lawsuit&FORM=VIRE8#view=detail&mid=2F9A5D5734A6A02C1F1F2F9A5D5734A6A02C1F1F
It takes a special kind of man to bankrupt a casino, a place where people walk through the door and give your their money.
Anyone else heard the news that Amal Clooney might take over for Donny at The Apprentice? Or is it just hot air?
I just saw that online! The Donald’s head would explode if that happens!
Well, then he should rethink if he even wants to be a President of such a large bunch of deviants. If even people from the Fox News think he did wrong, the odds are that a vast majority of his hypothetical dreamed-of subjects (His Orange Bigotry would use that word a lot) are filthy deviants and his innocence and tact should not be compromised in that way any longer.
He’d make a great Secretary of State. So diplomatic.
*snort* you guys would be at war with the rest of the world within a day of Trump getting into office. And he’d incinerate the planet within the week.
Frankly, I consider this a gift from the Lord. Trump is a misogynist, a twit and a full-fledged kamikaze loud mouth, but he’s the absolute most fun of the election season. I mean, would we truly be paying much attention otherwise? It seems like every day there’s a new Trump issue. The only thing that worries me is that right now, he’s almost too distracting. While we’re watching Trump and the media is covering him, the other candidates are meeting with the high rollers, shoring up supporters, making deals, etc. And nobody is paying attention. Does anybody know what Ted Cruz is doing right now? Nope, me either. And in a way that’s exactly what they want. So while Trump is hysterical and I enjoy watching the side show, I wish he wasn’t as dominant in the media discourse as he is, because there are far more serious candidates who aren’t being watched right now, and that’s a little scary.
He is very entertaining and I’m pretty surprised anyone believes he’s there for any reason but to market his favorite brand “The Donald”.
Hence the reason Carly Fiorina insinuated Trump is in cahoots with the Clintons. All the attention is on Donald making it impossible for other GOP candidates to gain momentum. Meanwhile the Clinton train rolls along cementing support without having to answer tough questions. The GOP will never endorse Trump and Trump’s potential to run as an independent will easily split GOP votes in a general election. That’s why the first question of the debate had to do with who will support the GOP nominee regardless of who it is. The saddest thing about this election cycle is that fact that Hillary has only one competitor and Saunder’s love for Hillary is so great he won’t force her to answer the tough questions we all need answered before we can vote for her with the full confidence of knowing she hasn’t and won’t subvert the law just because she can. Trump isn’t getting what he wants from the Republicans, so he will get it from the Dems. In the end whatever Trump does is about the almighty dollar. His followers are angry fools, the same angry fools who believed in Sarah Palin. Has he said one word about leaving his company should he be elected? No. Has anyone bothered to ask him that? No. In the end, none of the toughest questions are being answered by either side. Welcome to American politics. It’s about anything and everything other than what it needs to be. They’ve won and we as citizens have lost.
I just can’t with this guy, he seriously is an idiot and not a very nice one at that. He completely reminds me of my ex when it comes to apologising or should I say, avoiding it. He could do or say the most offensive thing but when it came to addressing it, he would ramble off this insane argument that would end with how he was the one that was wronged. It was head banging and wine guzzerling stuff.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada wasn’t he? So how in the hell is he running? He legally can’t. What am I missing about that?
His mother was an American citizen. She passed natural born citizenship to him simply by giving birth to him – as Stanley Ann Dunham did when she gave birth to Barack Obama, whether she did so in Hawaii, Kenya or Jupiter.
I want one of these press people to ask tRUMP what his people found on Obama…you know, since he had all of these investigators on O’s birth cert, examining it extensively and finding “unbelievable” and “amazing” things about it…”just wait ’til you see…” STILL WAITING…
come on, Donny boy, SPILL!
Obama’s mother actually didn’t because she had to be eighteen or something and she wasn’t. That’s why birthers could run rampant without having to answer about that. But it’s all stupid because he was born in Hawaii.
His parents were US born, so he claims citizenship that way. I agree, but maybe my interpretation of the Constitution isn’t correct, but I think you should be BORN in the US (or a US military base) to be eligible to run for president.
All due respect, but that’s kind of a dumb view. That would exclude any American born abroad for any reason (like people who happen to be born outside the country because their mom goes into labor while traveling, as happened to a friend of mine) or people who have been years for years. That’s dumb because it presumes that immigrants cannot love their adopted country as much as people who are actually born here (like my brother in law who, despite being born and raised in Russia, is a citizen and probably more in love with America than most Americans). It’s BS and it should be done away with. Even if Ted Cruz was a Canadian who became an American citizen, I would support letting him run, because the natural-born requirement is stupid as hell.
Cruz is an American citizen by virtue of the fact that his mother was an American citizen. Even though he was born in Canada, the citizenship laws state that if an American woman gives birth abroad, her child is eligible for citizenship. Ted Cruz’s parents filed for American citizenship for him shortly after he was born.
The Cruz controversy is all about what “natural-born citizen” means. If you’re in favor of a limited reading, it means a person who was born within the legal bounds of the United States (this definition covered John McCain, who was born on a military base in Panama, because, legally speaking, military bases are legal territory of the country they serve; hence, legally, McCain was born in America). If you favor a more liberal reading, “natural-born citizen” means a person who acquires citizenship through the laws of the United States. This definition covers Cruz, since out current citizenship laws allow for people born to Americans abroad to be citizens if that is what is desired.
It is honestly a non-issue. Ted Cruz can run for President, he’s a citizen. There is no story there. The only thing that keeps it going is that Cruz himself has pretty strong anti-immigration views, which some people find very hypocritical.
I can’t help feeling a little sorry for him. He has absolutely no idea that people see him as a joke, a bafoon, a laughing stock… The man would not understand authenticity if it smacked him on the head. People like Trump are truly starved of real love.
Of course the other candidates said that Kelly was in the wrong, and that Donald shouldn’t apologize. I bet they say his hair and tan rules too. Oh, and that he should air his great ideas on foreign policy as much as possible…
LOL. I bet at this point, they’re ENCOURAGING him. Nothing like a real wingnut to make the rest of the Republicans seem sane and reasonable.
Not defending anyone in this one, so deeply runs my distaste for both these a-holes
Whoever called him a bully hit the nail on the head. He always comes off as an obnoxious buffoon.
I don’t know why it’s been a shock to some that he went after Megan Kelly-he’s treated women like crap for years it’s nothing new.
What I wish happened is that one of the other candidates called him out for basically being a liberal until he decided to run 6 months ago and then deciding he had ‘conservative values’ When he said he was pro-choice up until he was 60, gave money to the Clinton foundation, supported obama care, said the Canadian health care system was good, said single payer health care was good, etc etc. I might not agree with alot of conservative values, but at least they actually BELIEVE their values. Trump tries to go back and change everything with ‘well I was just trying to make money back then.’ That dog doesn’t hunt bro.
You can’t have a ego as large and sensitive as his and be a successful president.
Rand Paul has been calling Trump out for being a rino.
I hope he stays in and runs as an independent. He can do Hillary’s work for her.
First Sarah Palin, now Donald Trump. What in the name of all that’s orange and stupid is going on here???
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.” –Donald Trump
“But obviously, we’ve got to stand with our North Korean allies.” –Sarah Palin after being asked by Glenn Beck how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas.
LOL! Oh, Sarah Palin, her “best of” on Youtube is still one of my happy places.
I love watching American politics. You guys always have a comedian warming the crowd up (ie Palin, Trump)
He’s a distraction and by being a blow-hard, makes the other candidates seem…reasonable. Did anybody else catch that gem by Scott Walker about choice? Where no abortion is allowed under any circumstances–even when the life of the mother is in imminent danger?
Being forced to carry a fetus when the pregnancy is killing you. That is what is not being discussed.
The Republican war against women is alive and well.
Yes, I could not believe my ears. And he defended that statement by saying it has been “proven that there are other ways to save the mother.” Oh. Under what circumstances? Is there only one set of circumstances in which the life of the mother could be endangered by carrying the baby to term and delivering? His explanation made NO sense.
It’s funny how everyone is bashing him, but some how this guy is leading the polls…somebody is in favor of him.
And, I’m sorry, I lost a lot of respect for Megyn Kelly on Thursday night. I didn’t tune in to watch the moderators and thought her questions were a bit over the top and aimed at HER personal agenda against candidates that maybe she had a personal distaste for.
I’m ready for our country to lighten up a bit on the whole pc agenda (and social programs in general), that’s all everyone worries about right now, offending people. I’m for gay rights, women’s rights, one love, pro choice all of that, but I think I speak for a lot of Americans when I say that I am for the safety of all of us (black, white, gay, straight) and I am VERY, VERY concerned about our safety. Let’s take care of ISIS shall we, and then we can worry about whether or no Donald insinuated whether someone was or was not on her period.
Love yourself, woman.
If you think this bigoted piece of shit will save you from the ISIS then you are delusional. He’d sell women to ISIS because it’d be good for business.
Women to him are living blow-up dolls.
And if I hear one more person complaining about the PC culture, I’ll scream.
It’s bullshit excuse for not being able to be openly bigoted without anyone calling you out on it.
Why aren’t you worried about white supremacist who shoot black people in their churches, or all those good folks in the Bible Belt who value their relict from the slavery past(the Confederate flag) more than having normal relations with anyone who isn’t a white redneck?
^^THIS^^
Go on, Kay!
You said it all, my friend.
thank you kay. nice post.
Not saying I am voting for THE Donald at all, I just wish for one moment foreign affairs would lead the nightly news instead of The Dukes of Hazzard getting removed of the airways or some meaningless crap. When the POTUS is commenting on the Bill Cosby situation, there is a problem with what our politicians are putting in perspective. I would say very few in my Bloomington Indiana community would dare fly a confederate flag or decry gay or women’s rights, but we are ready for safety for ALL Americans. I cannot in my right mind understand how people are not more worried about this. It scares the crap out of me. All everyone wants to do is get on message boards and spout a bunch of black lives matter rhetoric…all lives matter people, if you want free speech for all, then you better start worrying about home grown terrorism instead of whether or not someone accidentally offended you. Because it’s out there, in movie theaters, on your streets, in your schools and in your towns and it’s scary. That’s what I wanted to hear about Thursday night. And regarding the incident you mentioned above, apparently you aren’t from Charleston, S.C. because those people are the most honorable people in the world, how that community took a horrible situation and created a peaceful march without any destruction or looting of their town, is amazing to me. That’s grace. And to insinuate anyone would condone it on these message boards, is just childish. But go ahead and worry because someone 7 states away still has a confederate belt buckle tucked away somewhere. Someone, somewhere is protecting your freedom so you can complain about it.
@ Mellie-Well…I don’t agree with all of what you have to say but I think you have a very good point about how we prioritize our news coverage and specifically the lack of coverage of foreign affairs. I don’t think it even has to be about terrorism specifically, but we need more globally-focused coverage.
A friend of mine was living and working for the British embassy in Brazil for 6 years doing trade negotiations. She recently moved back to the States to do a similar but higher-level job in DC. Obviously, in terms of her job, she really relies on international news coverage, which is sorely lacking in the US. It’s been culture shock for her come back here and see how insular/nationalistic we are in that respect.
Mellie, “black lives matter” addresses a very real problem with excessive violence by the police against black men. It doesn’t mean “white lives don’t matter.” Maybe it should have been “black lives matter, too.” I am a staunch supporter of the police who risk their lives every day for our safety. But surely, if you try, you can see the number of incidents in the past few years where a black man was killed by the police for no reason, or for a very minor offense. It’s a small minority of policemen who are doing it, but it is undeniable that it’s happening, and I can’t understand how white people can object to black people or anyone else protesting about it or be so incredibly self-centered as to make it about us.
As for the confederate flag, I’m from the south and my best friend lives in Charleston. It’s one of my favorite cities. But your statement that someone seven states away has a confederate flag in their belt buckle? Come on. The confederate flag was flying over a government building in South Carolina since the sixties, as a protest to forced integration. This claim that it’s not about racism, but about heritage is, in this case, utter bullshit. That flag was put there to say, fine, you can make us integrate our schools, but don’t forget where you are, black people, and don’t step out of line, because whites still rule here. I don’t think white people got a sudden case of nostalgia for their heritage concurrent with forced integration by coincidence.
You can worry about more than one thing at a time. I’m very worried about our nation’s security. But I’m also worried that black men are being killed by the police for minor or no offenses, that we have a potential candidate for president who is a misogynist (at least one), that a symbol of racism was until recently, being flown over a government building, that women do not earn as much as men for doing the same job, that children anywhere are hungry, that 90% of rapes go unpunished, that my gay nephew still gets shouted at in a hateful way on occasion, that a segment of our country doesn’t believe in evolution, and a host of other things. I get that you think ISIS is a huge threat. I do, too. But that doesn’t mean that it’s not important that in 2015, a woman who challenges a man is still accused of “being on the rag.”
As a black woman, the erasure of black women killed by police makes my blood boil. There’s no marches for the women killed in racially motivated shootings.
@Greyson, I’m so sorry. All of the recent incidents that I know about have involved men, but I should not have worded it that way. I didn’t mean to upset you.
@Good names all Taken….
I’m not complaining about the Confederate Flag still being flown, so I really don’t need the history lesson, I completely agree that it’s a racist symbol and am glad it’s gone. What I’m tired of is the constant nitpicking of people trying to find Confederate symbols and completely erase them everywhere on this earth, and then throwing a $hitfit when it’s not done asap, it simply can’t be done in a day and the cancelling of a TV show over it was insane. It seems that things like this get pushed to the forefront of the news every day and it gets old. Now, for the police brutality, agree, agree, agree with you…unless a person (black OR white, man OR woman) threatens an officer with a weapon I feel there is no reason for excessive force, let alone death. It’s terrible what has happened to our country over this issue. There have also been several police officers shot by young men (the most recent example being the two in NYC, sitting in their patrol car) for no good reason other than they were police officers. All I would like to see would be for politicians to address terrorism at home and in the middle east AND I wanted to see less talk from the moderators and I thought Megyn Kelly crossed the line with several of the candidates, not just Trump. (I think I pointed that out.) How the hell that turned into myself being a bigoted anti-gay, anti-black (see eternal side-eye’s comments below) is beyond me. EVERYONE should be entitled to their opinion without being labeled and raged against.
I’m sorry, Mellie. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, and I wasn’t raging at you, I was just trying to show you a different point of view. I have been where you are, and made a brief comment that people took in ways I didn’t mean, and everybody told me what a dipshit I was and it felt terrible, especially since I didn’t mean it the way they took it. I do think some of your phrasing like “spouting a bunch of black lives matter rhetoric” gives the impression that you disagree with the concept, but I’ll take your word for it that you didn’t mean it that way. Maybe you were writing in haste or were upset. Or maybe I just read it wrong. In any event, I get carried away sometimes when I feel strongly about something and I certainly can be way too long-winded, so I’m sorry if you felt attacked and I added to that. It really was not my intention.
Trump is leading with the republican base. He’s not leading with moderate republicans or independent voters. What over the top questions did Megyn Kelly ask? Social programs are part of a pc agenda?
@Mellie, your comment was meant to be a joke, Right!!. I cannot believe you are serious. If you are, I feel sorry for you and people like you. Btw, I don’t want to know the answer, I want to keep my sanity.
I will agree that Fox News had a very clear agenda to knock Trump out of the race, but that fact and the fact that he is a despicable misogynistic idiot are not two mutually exclusive things.
Trump has no new ideas to fight ISIS.
I didn’t say I was voting for Donald Trump, but I find it interesting that everyone bashes him on every message board I read, yet he’s leading the polls. By a lot, and then I type my personal opinion on the situation and people take it to a new level. No, I don’t think he can take care of ISIS and home grown terrorism, but I would have liked to have heard a lot more about that from all the candidates then about abortion, illegal immigration and women’s rights. What did we all really think a bunch of republicans were going to say about abortion rights? I’m sorry, we’ve heard and heard about that stuff for years. At the end of the day, those things cannot destroy us, terrorism can.
My comment was ‘taking it to a new level’? How so?
Polls are an indicator of popularity and not a test on intelligence, being well informed, having done adequate research or having good decision making skills.
I would also like to know the demographics of the respondents because I have NEVER known anyone who was polled. I don’t answer unknown #’s on a private line/cell, and if I answered the work line, I would hang up on them.
Sorry, Kiddo, I was responding to all the above comments. Not just yours…
I have to agree with Kay, you need to love yourself more.
Trump is leading because your party cares more about locking up women’s reproductive parts and shooing all the evil raping Mexicans back across the border than it does making sense. Trump is leading because he is the example of your party’s current motivations: loud, angry, insulting, if you’re not with him you’re a loser, he can imply something and if someone challenges him on it THEY’RE the sick ones.
You don’t care about the safety of the black or gay, or else you wouldn’t ignorantly suggest that we need to lighten up on social programs. You’re in favor of returning the world back to something that favors you and people like you and Donald is serving up that fantasy on a platter with whipped cream. The greatest tragedy is not that he’s running or leading but that there is no way to split this country so that Republicans who vote for him could finally get the president they so richly deserve.
Police officers in this country have wrongfully killed more people here than Isis. How worried about that are you?
I’m going to give a big eye roll and remember that I’m on a celebrity gossip site and wish you a nice day.
Bravo!!! at Mellie! YES to everything you posted!
Well done.
Thank You
Haha. I agree with you.
I don’t see any FOX news people as “fair and balanced”. The Republican power base is sh!tting bricks at Trump being in the lead. This was orchestrated to take him out of the running, but he’s still leading the polls.
It’s so entertaining to watch the republicans implode. I am rooting for Trump to stay in the running as LONG as possible. It’s refreshing to see him ignore being polite or PC, and seeing what the right has done for AGES against democrats actually being done inter-party!
We have the potential for a Ross Perot situation, which could lead to another non-majority victory for the democrats 🙂
Yeah! Let’s stall progress for another 4 years.
He’s the best thing that ever happened to the Clintons. This isn’t a serious candidacy. It’s a well orchestrated diversion that will divide the party. Trump gets press and the Democrats end up on top. Follow the $, Trump has donated to both Bill and Hill.
It disgusts me that this POS, misogynist, blowhard bully who thinks he’s the cat’s ass just because he’s wealthy, is getting the time of day from anyone in the political arena. I am dumbfounded by my fellow citizens. Are there enough backward, racist, misogynist, simpleton FOOLS in this country to elect him president? I shudder to think….
+1
To be fair, he does bear a striking resemblance to the cat’s ass…
Dear Annie:
Don’t compare me to this puckered trash heap, man.
Sincerely,
My Cat’s Butthole
Jackson, totally agree with you and laughed so hard at “cat’s ass” which I haven’t hears in way too long.
Send in the clowns … Don’t bother, there here.
Bernie Sanders all the way.
Right? It’s like no one knows that there is anyone else but Trump and Clinton!
What a stupid, brainwashed society.
Idiocracy indeed.
No, I’d suspect it’s more like people want to vote for winners. Sanders is a decent guy, but nobody who actually knows politics believes he has any meaningful chance to win, either in primary or in general. People want to back winners. Clinton has a good chance. Trump isn’t a winner, he’s just a master of media frenzies. You’ll see his numbers dip soon enough.
@Sam: a whole lot of folks said this about Obama as well, and he won. I wouldn’t count Bernie out so quickly.
There’s a weird bifurcation going on, as I see it: Trump appeals to many people who’d like to fantasize about being a rich American success story, powerful enough to say exactly what they want, indulge their worst impulses, and tell anyone who disagrees with them to eff off; Bernie Sanders is a populist and a fighter and a voice for many Americans who acknowledge they aren’t on the top of the 1% pyramid scheme, are not likely going to make it there, and are willing to get in the trenches to fight – both for themselves, and for others.
We’ll see. I think that there are a thousand common threads in this country behind the awkward mantle of ‘socialist,’ and that the content & intent of what B. Sanders actually says and does might ring louder & resonate with lots more voters than some may suppose at this point in the buffoon festivities.
@Sam
Like I said – brainwashed society. People want to to back “winners.” Who chooses the candidates that have a chance of winning? The powerful elite – the DNC and the RNC. The public does not have to follow the lead of the 1%, but they are brainwashed by the media that serves the corporate elite to “know” who has a “meaningful chance” of winning.
And it doesn’t really even matter, because it isn’t clear – particularly with the Diebold computerized voting machines – that our votes are even really counted at all anymore or that there is not major tampering going on.
Trump’s numbers were always going to fall. He is not the candidate of choice for the Repubs. Consequently, look what the corporate media is doing to him now – helping to make those numbers fall, much like they did with Herman Cain in 2011. Mitt Romney was always the guy in 2012 who had been chosen, even when he was dead last. Bush is the guy who has already been chosen by the RNC, Clinton has been chosen by the DNC, and the media will do their part to ensure it.
The powers- that- be have already declared this a Clinton/Bush election and it will be so next year, unless some other Ivy League puppet candidate is deemed annointable by either of the two parties. If you think we the people really have any say in all of this, you are sorely mistaken.
Belle: Sorry, Sanders isn’t an Obama. Obama was a hyper-charismatic, young candidate with incredibly mastery of social media, youth recognition and, probably above all, a pretty moderate voting record. Sanders ain’t exactly that way.
Here’s the problem with Sanders – he has spent years being a nag and a scold to the Democratic Party (technically, he is not even a member, he just caucuses with them). So he spends years refusing to join them and then turns around and wants to be on their ticket? I don’t blame them for not helping him out. He can’t spend a career as an “outsider” and then try to get on the inside. It doesn’t work that way in Washington. They have long memories.
Sanders seems to be hoping for some kind of miracle grassroots revolution to lift him up into the presidency, which seems slightly delusional. He claims to be a socialist but he forgets that America has far more socialistic parties – like the actual Socialists Workers or, hell, even the Greens. Genuine hardcore progressives will have a very hard time going with Sanders over a Green or Socialist or even a progressive independent. They’re used to their candidates not getting elected and voting based upon their values. Most analysts don’t see them making the switch.
And Clinton will be the nominee because she’s spent years laying the groundwork for this. People forget she’s been a Washington player for almost 25 years now! She’s been first lady, senator, secretary of state, all that. She is as entrenched as they come and she’s been planning this for years. Look at what she’s doing now. She barely even acknowledges Sanders or anyone else running against her. She knows she has it, and there’s nothing to indicate that she doesn’t.
The Trump issue is that he has become a distraction. The GOP had a gift in 2016 – they know Hillary is the Democratic nominee, so they could basically just spend the next year working her over, pouring over every little thing she says or does. Trump is a distraction from that, one they probably wish they didn’t have to deal with.
@Sam: Clinton was the designated party nominee before – the obvious nominee and winner, according to all conventional wisdom both inside & outside of the party – as you express & repeat here.
We all know how that worked out for her.
And as for the pundits who predicted she was inevitable – just as you are doing here – well, they were wrong, weren’t they? There’s a chance they will be again.
Bernie Sanders is not only accepted – but is currently applauded, and actively being campaigned for, as we speak – by MANY true Greens, progressives, et al.
And – just like Obama – he already has an extremely impressive grassroots & internet/soc. media/fundraising organization in place, successful and at work.
Have you seen the crowds he draws already? There is the enthusiasm of true believers and advocates in his supporters that Hilary Clinton cannot buy, steal, borrow or even hope to achieve. Much as things were with Obama.
We shall see.
#feel the bern
i love him
im afraid the clintons will have him silkwooded off the highway some night
I think I’m there, too. Bernie! Bernie!
As for people who like Trump, I grew up with a woman who told me over the weekend via Facebook that no, she wouldn’t vote for Trump but she likes him because “he says what everyone else is afraid to say” and “we want the old America back.” It just made me sad. Then mad, then sad, then mad, then sad. She was a nice kid and this is what she grew up to think.
I ♥️ You Kitten. Sanders all the way. Did you see the 28,000 that turned out last night to see him in person in Oregon? L.A. on Monday coming up. Check it out on YouTube.
Well at least he stands behind his words. I don’t get this apology for the sake of apologizing now. If the person really is NOT sorry what good does it do to act as if he/she is? I hope he continues to run because he is getting lots of stuff out in the open for discussion and that is how the rest of the Republicans running should be thinking of it.
How about the media just doing their jobs and stop trying to influence voters, right or left. Let the voters pose the questions to the candidates. The media should merely present the candidates in an unbiased manner. Let us ask them what their views are on varying issues. Let us ask about domestic and foreign policy. Let us ask about their political records, or in the case of those new to the political scene, how would their administration be run. Let us ask about Iran and ISIS and what they would do concerning them. Let us ask about the economy, about jobs. Ask the hard questions and in turn get a real response instead of yet another well rehearsed slick answer that in the end doesn’t really answer anything. WE are after all, the ones that hire these people to represent us and run our country. I am sick and tired of the media and their agendas, their biased reporting, and pushing their favored candidates. We are not children and they should stop treating us as such. It is also the responsibility however of the voting public to become engaged and informed. Those who stay home thinking why bother my vote doesn’t count, are votes never placed and who knows how they may have shifted the outcomes had they bothered to take ten minutes and pop into their local poll site. I simply don’t trust the media at this point and what occurred the other night had no place in a presidential debate of either party. Trump needs to answer legitimate campaign questions as any candidate should, and Ms. Kelly needs to settle down and know her place as an objective journalist, rather than making a name for herself. Both need to stop making this process a spectacle and have some respect for it.
With all due respect, have you met some of the “average voters” out there? Some of them don’t exactly inspire confidence in the electoral process.
And Megyn Kelly did her job. A debate moderator’s job is to criticize, to attack, to push candidates to places they have not previously gone and to create some scrutiny. She pushed from both sides on the abortion issue – candidates who don’t support rape and incest exceptions and those who do. She did her job. She seemed to be trying to emulate the late (great) Tim Russert, who was famous for hitting everybody equally hard (despite his own personal liberal leanings). Kelly is not my favorite person, but she did a fine job. Her “place” is to be a devil’s advocate and ask tough questions. It’s stupid to suggest anything otherwise.
So here we go, I have a different opinion and you feel the need the call me stupid. Are we adults here or perpetually 5 years old? Why can’t differing views be presented here without the name calling? And no it is not a moderators job to criticize and attack. It is to present the candidates to the voters and ask the questions that will inform us as to their policies, beliefs, and political agendas. I don’t want someone to play devil’s advocate, I think we should be able to form our own opinions.
First, I called your opinion stupid. Big difference.
Second, no, that is not a moderator’s job. The candidates are already presenting themselves to the public. What the heck do you think a campaign is if not for introducing yourself to the public? They already are!
Debates are designed to present the difference between candidates, let them clarify their positions, etc. And yes, part of doing that is having moderators who will push them on issues. If they’ve made inconsistent statements in the past, why not call them on it? If the public really deserves to know the candidates, then you should thank moderators who force them to clarify stuff and talk more. If what you’re saying is true, there is no point to debates. Just let them campaign. But that’s stupid – of course they should debate, and they should have to answer really hard questions. They’re asking for possibly the most serious responsibility in the entire country – why shouldn’t they get grilled? It’s BS to suggest otherwise.
So you continue to call me stupid. Calling my opinion stupid is the same thing and I can assure you I am far from stupid. I have been coming to this site for several years and one of the things I have always liked is that the comments made are for the most part intelligent and articulate. There are those I do not agree with and that’s fine. People are entitled to their own opinion without the keyboard bullies chiming in. I have NEVER referred to someone or their comments as stupid or pure BS as you so eloquently put it.
I think I worded my original comment to include both sides of the isle when it comes to the media and the candidates. Yes they should be asked serious questions if they are looking to hold one of the most powerful positions on the planet. Which is precisely why the TMZ mentality of the media needs to stop. And no I never suggested that there shouldn’t be a debate, but it should be run properly rather than for ratings and career agendas.
Um, Nicolette, I don’t know about you, but I learned in kindergarten that there is a difference between being stupid and saying stupid stuff. I said the former. Who knows maybe you were absent that day.
How was what Kelly said TMZ worthy? She took actual quotes Trump has said and raised an important issue – Americans expect their President to conduct him or herself a certain way. Would Trump continue to speak that way as President? Do we want him calling the first lady of some other nation those things if she pisses him off? How was that question not valid?
And you make literally no sense. So you want debate moderators to ask hard questions and push candidates to clarify their positions and raise troubling issues with candidates, but you…sort of don’t? You’re just making yourself look bad now, since you’re accusing Kelly of having some kind of agenda (even though she was hard on every candidate on the stage and asked hard questions of them all) but you seem to not be able to grasp what a debate moderator is supposed to actually DO.
Spot on Nicolette. They are MODERATORs…not the stars of the show. Simply ask the questions, ding the bell and move on.
Who cares what MK thinks she is not running for President of the United States. What the voters want to know is, what is Donald Trump thinking and saying so we can make an informed decision. I’m grateful MK shoved DT words right back at him and he get pissed off. Thank you MK for shining a light at that bully. Btw, thank God we have approximately 15 months before the presidential election. Lots of time for DT to self destruct.
It’s hilarious you went on that rant about ‘let US ASK’ when Megyn was reading a question that – drumroll please – was asked by someone.
I find it curious those always lambasting the media are usually the same who make so little effort to actually try to get as much information from different sources as possible.
A hard question (for Trump’s level) was asked, this entire circus of tantrums from Trump is the result and somehow this is still someone else’s fault. Ooh that darn sneaky media! Should we stop reporting on fires because they’re attention getting too? Because Trump’s campaign run is a tire fire that’s burning along.
And how would you know where I get my information from? Do you think I spend all my time on a celebrity gossip site? Stop judging me or anyone on here with the wave of your hand based on a comment. And no not all questions were those posed by the public. I’m talking about a debate where WE THE PEOPLE ask all the questions. We as a voting public know what we want answered in order to make a decision on who we will vote for.
So how do you think we should go about it?
Obviously everyone can’t fit in one room so we’d probably have to hold it in one location and then televise it.
Then it’d be too crazy if everyone just yelled questions across the room so they’d probably have to have questions pre-submitted…
There could be a national poll of the questions we want answered the most, and not a selection fed to us. I mean questions put out there by the public, polled by the public and then presented to the candidates. Then a debate based upon those could be held in a large venue to accommodate a big audience and televised and put on social media at the same time. A town hall meeting so to speak on a national level. Or break it down to several such “meetings” as to allow the most questions to be asked. Keep the moderators out of it. Yes there are many in this country who are not informed or engaged, and many see it as why bother. But there are many who are the opposite and want concrete answers without the fluff, drama and slick professional answers of career politicians. There are a lot of serious issues at hand for the 2016 election and people need to be involved. Aren’t you tired of a handful of people at the top making very important, impactful decisions for the rest of us? We have a voice too, and again be it LEFT OR RiGHT they should be heard. The media is absolutely biased whether it be FOX, CNN or MSNBC. I have no problem with a candidate’s feet being held to the fire as long as it is for the correct reasons and not to be the ring leader of a circus.
I’m confused, what questions did M Kelly asked Donald Trump that were unfair? Why is the Donald so taken aback when his words were read back to him. I guess the Donald is showing himself to be a CRY BABY. Donald to MK, whaa, whaa, give me only soft questions or I will call you a Looser and a lightweight, and tell say you are on your period to embaress you.
Questions are always unfair and gotcha when the candidate doesn’t like them. Conversely they are the best kind when it’s your opponent and the press is remiss if they don’t ask them.
I agree with you, Nicolette.
If you expect an “objective journalist” from Fox News, you’re looking in the wrong place. It’s an entertainment network, not news.
Which makes zero sense for presidential debates to be held there, but makes enormous sense to have a court jester like Trump on.
Although I differ in reference to the mythological creature of an ‘objective journalist’ (I don’t believe they exist), I take your point about the format & structure of a political debate.
Perhaps if journalists did their real jobs more often, by holding ALL candidates’ feet to the fire – and perhaps if candidates felt their obligations to the public more keenly, by agreeing to interviews and to being grilled in different formats by said journalists instead of cherry-picking partisan patsies and networks – the debate process wouldn’t be such a three-ring circus of mish-mashed intention and purpose.
It would be awfully civilized to have a meaningful debate, discussing and comparing real core issues and differing positions & approaches, with the moderator’s main role being keeping track of time allotted and governing follow-ups.
A lot more boring to some, maybe, yet a lot more substantive.
But that bastardization of a debate format the other night? No, no thank you.
Totally agree.
Why is everyone or most everyone jumping all over Nicolette? I think that’s a good idea, and a good point. Moderators can be biased. Remember when Candy Crowley said Obama was correct and Romney was not? I wanted Obama to win, but I thought that was wrong and unfair of her to comment during the debate. And while I didn’t think Megyn Kelly’s questions were unfair, and I’m personally glad she asked them, and I hate Trump, were any other candidates asked similar questions? I don’t remember. And surely no one can claim our media in general is not biased. But anyway, I think Nicolette makes a good point, certainly not one she should be attacked for.
I’m not arguing that all debate moderators are good. Crowley was a lousy moderator. Kelly was not. She asked tough questions of every candidate and did well. She pushed Rubio and Cruz on his abortion position from the right (supporting exemptions is seen as conceding some abortions are okay for a lot of pro-life people) and she pushed Walker from the left for not supporting any exemptions (the question about letting a woman die to preserve fetal life). She was fair. She did not single out Trump. I think the difference was that Trump’s questions were more that Trump has not talked a great deal about any actual policy positions he holds (other than “hit ISIS so hard” and “make Mexico pay for the wall.”). At least the others have policy positions and voting records. Trump’s whole campaign has been a collection of soundbites and twitter. That’s about it, so that’s what the moderators predominantly had to work with. Given what Trump is, I thought Kelly was more than fair to him. But yes, to answer your question, they were all asked tough questions.
I still don’t get what Nicolette said that was so wrong, but thanks for answering my question. I watched the debate and agree the questions were tough, but didn’t remember specifically any questions quoting the candidate’s obnoxious former statements. However, nobody makes statements quite as obnoxious as Trump, so that may be why.
I thought there were to many candidates in the debate to have much of a meaningful discussion. That’s not anyone’s fault, but there just wasn’t enough time for each candidate to address very many issues.
“Let the voters pose the questions to the candidates.”
HAHAHAHA you mean like the “‘I want to know if any of them have received a word from God on what they should do and take care of first.” Facebook “voter question” they ACTUALLY had the nerve to pose as a serious question??? No. No no no no no.
This.
The idea works in a perfect world where people don’t suck. Someone mentioned Townhall Meetings and God if that’s not a perfect example of how miserable it is when everyone is given a platform to say whatever they want.
10% of the meeting ends up being useful and the other 90 makes you want to find a bunker and hide from your fellow humans.
Absolutely Trump.
She should apologize to you.
Then she should build a 12 ft statue made entirely out of rubies in your honor. Then she should kneel at the feet of the statue and apologize to the gods.
Good for Megyn, she sat back and fell into the talking points of her party long enough. Soft balled the Duggars and probably chuckled when other women were insulted by Trump. She deserves this.
She loves this, are you kidding me? She set the bait and he bit. Now she can simultaneously pretend she is neutral, non-biased, a real journalist, and get the womenz behind her. THIS is a woman who said Santa IS WHITE as a f-cking factual news story. Let us not forget.
Bingo.
From the public comments so far many of the womenz of her party are blaming her.
When it comes down to it FOX needs to exist past this election. If the money and support of the conservative public follows Trump then the station will do what it can to get its really batshit fans back including dialing her down and introducing their next perky blonde ‘reporter’.
It’s been done before, it’ll be done again.
Exactly. She wants to be bigger than Fox and this new victimhood will paint her as neutral and non-biased. She’s horrible too, just a little better looking than Trump.
Agree she loves this. Trump is just getting her more free attention.
I’m not someone who tuned into Fox. I have heard from CNN news that MK has not made a comment regarding DT. So how is she loving the attention? By being silent. I don’t get it.
@BNA
It’s kinda funny actully since people are just building on Trump’s insinuation. I’ve read so many comments about how Megyn can’t cry foul since she asked the salacious question and now how excited and happy she must be to be the focus
In the end the woman has said exactly nothing since asking the question but there’s a whole narrative of the way in which she’s responding to the backlash, and yes theres a very real and ugly backlash towards her.
I am in no way building on Trump’s insinuation. Where did I say she had her period? But there was an agenda at Fox, in my opinion, to knock Trump out of the game. I also have said that he is a misogynist idiot. But here’s the thing, why ask him this crap and not any substantive questions on his positions in re women or women’s issues? She baited and he called back. No one is saying that what he said is right, He’s a jerk, but it got him disinvited from the speaking engagement, which is precisely what Murdoch and Koch bros are happy about, another snag in his f-ckery. And that Red State gathering’s organizer, Erickson:
“Erickson, however, has a long history of extremely sexist comments. He has repeatedly stated his belief that women, in general, should not work. He said men should play “the dominant role” and women earning the primary paycheck is “bad for kids and bad for marriage.” He specifically cheered Trump’s sexist and mean-spirited attacks on Rosie O’Donnell. He supported the exclusion of women from Augusta National Golf Club, saying “I don’t want to be hanging out at some women’s event!” The list goes on and on.
Jeb Bush appeared at the RedState Gathering on Saturday and pronounced that Erickson was “on the side of women.” Erickson tried to distinguish his own comments from Trump’s by claiming he has apologized. But he only apologized for one sexist remark — referring to the first day of the Democratic National Convention, which featured female speakers, as the “Vagina Monologues.”
http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/08/08/3689627/jeb-bush-says-notorious-sexist-erick-erickson-is-on-the-side-of-women/
She is all over the place when it comes to issues for women, she has slut shamed on birth control as entitlement, but gets in a huff when challenged on her own maternity leave. But she picks out a name calling exchange between Trump and Rosie O’Donnell as an important debate question for the voters of this country? I don’t appreciate his language and who he is, but THIS question was like a page out of a reality show post season interview. Sure, it demonstrates a lack of respect, but is this something no one knew about? HOW DOES it effect the country, and why does she cover for some of the Fox golden child candidates?
http://www.newshounds.us/megyn_kelly_helps_rehab_romney_s_binders_full_of_women_comment_10172012
Baier, Kelly, Wallace great job Thursday. Fine journalism, no more, no less. Friend Donald has to learn this is public life.
— Rupert Murdoch (@rupertmurdoch) August 8, 2015
Uh-huh. Watch your step on in this public life says the puppet master and the highly credible journalist who ‘in jest’ said that Santa was white and so was Jesus. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/13/megyn-kelly-responds-to-critics-over-santa-is-white-flap/
Is she the Fox Jon Stewart or a journalist?
And to be VERY CLEAR, I detest Donald Trump. He’s a classless buffoon, but Kelly is disingenuous and no where near an unbiased journalist.
“She set the bait and he bit. Now she can simultaneously pretend she is neutral, non-biased, a real journalist…”
This is precisely what I think she was up to: a savvy bit of career & professional maneuvering to better position herself and build her brand for later.
Temporary discomfort for a certain type of cred. Perhaps for a different audience. Bit of a long-game strategy, but that’s what I suspect.
Sigh, not the insinuation she had her period Kiddo. The insinuation she’s emotional and manipulative. Come on.
She asked him a question on his treatment of women in the circumstances he’s been in. Carson gets asked on his opinions on abortions since he’s in the medical field. I’m not sure why people on one hand are saying they want more questions from the public asked of these politicians and then surmising all kinds of games from the questions that were asked by the public.
If the great trap at the end of the plan was that he wouldn’t get asked to the event by Erickson then I truly have to conclude Murdoch is more dumb than conniving. Trump’s a martyr of the party now. Try to squelch him and you feed more into his narrative that FOX isn’t a conservative as it should be. Do you think Fox and Murdoch have built a decades long commitment to manipulating and controlling the conservative masses only to set it all ablaze on Trump’s pyre? Really?
Trumps playing this perfectly. This is the party that’s crowed with pride at the idea that being loud, boisterous, and rude was fantastic as long as you’re aiming it at the right people. Now Trump has swung the gun back into the deck and Fox News is ducking for cover and trying to avoid being hit by friendly fire.
Based on her recent interview she came across as calm and tight-lipped, a little less smiley than usual. A little more somber. There’s also reports that Trump was personally contacted by Fox to promise that the next debate will be respectful. I don’t have any particular confidence in Kelly, but I do have confidence in Fox to know that their target audience doesn’t care about her. If they did there wouldn’t have been such an immediate backlash against her. Most of the uproar I’m seeing in disgust of Trump’s comments doesn’t come from conservatives but from liberals and independents. What was the response on Fox regarding the discussion of ‘blood from her wherever’? Radio silence.
Eternal side eye, I saw her statement last night. On the surface, she did the right thing, but she came across as smug as hell, “because I’m a serious journalist” BS, just like I said above^?. Maybe my entire comment wasn’t as articulate as it could have been, ridding the party of Trump is a step on the path to moving forward whoever ‘the money’ wants in. They want someone with a little more finesse in the dog whistle category, but also someone ‘in the pocket’. In Trump’s business ventures, he likes doing the paying off, like a lot of developers, if you catch my drift. Why didn’t they ask him about the clusterF of his and Governor Chris Christie’s cahoots in the virtual bankrupting of Atlantic City, NJ, using taxpayer money? The Rosie O’Donnell beef is relegating him to reality status only. I’m not saying he doesn’t belong there, but how about delving into actual HARM he has caused? How about when he has left subcontractors in the lurch unpaid? Too close to home in policy appreciation? Tax abatements and social welfare for the elite, even in failure, is okay. Calling women specific names is a no-no, but policy which actually harms more women, in general, is copacetic, provided you pretend it’s money badly spent or some religious driven moral code, but handing over the store to a developer where the unemployment rate is beyond ridiculous, as a consequence is okay. Get where I’m going? Kelly ‘opinionated’ all over the place in the past about birth control coverage. But slut shaming in a subtle way is nicer than name calling? Why is a person who editorializes even asking questions?
This was an absolute ‘gotcha moment’ to make someone look bad and not move the conversation further. It was like a prosecutor asking a defendant if he called a victim names, making a statement to the jury rather than really looking to get an answer, before the judge sustains the objection. Did they ask Christie about his team blaming the bridge scandal on an unhinged woman having an affair? Or telling voters to sit down and shut up?
I could go on and on, and YES, Trump is a misogynist tool, but Kelly isn’t a journalist, she’s a talking head on TV, just like O’Reilly, and I’m sure she was well compensated and is enjoying her self-declared status of serious news person. It’s a damn smokescreen.
I find it hilarious and yet sad, that after all the horrible things he’s said over the years, when he picks on a white blonde woman, that’s the bridge too far.
I get what you’re saying, but I think he insulted all women by saying in essence that if a woman challenges a man, she’s a hormonal bitch. I don’t like Megyn Kelly but no woman should have to apologize for asking a man a question or doing her job.
That was my take away also.
I agree, it’s just that he said horrible disrespectful things about the President and none of those assholes said a word, but now that he’s taking on Megyn Kelly…. I guess insulting her is like insulting Sarah Palin in 2008 or something.
Agreed neelyo, at first I think I was missing the larger picture because Trump is so easy to hate and take issue with. Why did the debate have an opinionater asking questions, in the first place?
We tried taking questions directly from voters. They were called Town Hall Meetings.
Anybody remember how well THAT went?
I’d like more, myself. In NJ, Chris ChrispieKreme does them all the time and gets to demonstrate exactly how much contempt he has for his constituents.
let the rest of the clown car do just that, and we’ll see how many of the voters like it when they’re on the receiving end of the tirade. it just might clear things up for the “uninformed” (read: DUMB) voters.
I’d like more, too – but only if private citizen questioners get a follow-up.
This is crucial.
That’s when even the shyest of souls have an opportunity to call-out a politician on his or her non-answer, return to the original concern to demand a more specific & relevant answer, and derail the talking points train – or expose it for what it is.
belle, totally agree, except…
…even the mods they picked tried to do that and they got ANOTHER non-answer.
so, while I love the idea, I think the candidate would just do the same to the private citizen, more rudely than to a mod. 🙁
and ChrispieKreme does this when he just yells “shaddup and sit down!” when he has someone who tries to pin him down on an answer, or simply ask a question he doesn’t WANT to answer.
doofus, I guess my hope would be that the candidates who did not have a real answer – twice – would be allowed to bury themselves with their own shovels, in front of any voters caring to see how they handled both public questions and scrutiny.
Sometimes it’s just as telling to see someone’s inabilities.
One sticking point in the current hodgepodge process for me is that any journalist or moderator choosing, controlling or censoring the questions is a gatekeeper – wielding a great deal of editorial influence in shaping impressions, catering to certain strengths, deciding which issues are important, etc.
I actually love random questions from people because it’s important to me to see how a statesman or stateswoman handles themselves; I also want to see how someone thinks on their feet. If it were up to me, I’d go back to days when people elected to office (especially as POTUS) were not career politicians, were expected to have at least a modicum of debating skills, and felt they had to answer to a public that had better access to them.
(re Jersey’s own rotundity of profundity, ChrispyCrust: corrupt, shyster, thug, bully and liar are all terms that come to mind… I still haven’t gotten over what he tried to get over with the GW Bridgegate.)
Who’s voting for these clowns? The Canadian Senator who SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT because he felt like it is running #2? What is wrong with these people? I think someone should start a new party because this 2 party system is not working for me. I’d rather vote for none of the above.
He makes me want to pack up and move to a different country. It would be comical – if it wasn’t so sad, tragic and scary that there are actual people who think he could be fit to lead our country.
I just want to tell the people of the world this is a joke and Americans are really not this dumb.
I hope all these GOP supporters are ready to put their words into action. Let’s cut all these social programs that help moochers!! Let’s cut social security and medicaid! OH WAIT….
These Republicans, who trend older and white, all expect those handouts from the government because “they’ve earned them”. WTF. You can’t pick and choose support programs, but demand low cost medicaid in your old age while bitching about the socialist woes of Obamacare. If you’re taking SS and discount health programs for the elderly, you’re already involved in a socialist program and just in denial. Trump wants to slash welfare and food stamps, but not SS or Medicare & Medicaid. Do people know that a huge portion of food stamp program goes to provide incentives to farmers?? They never talk about cutting ag subsidies which cost the government much more. They keep bringing up the ‘welfare queen’ stereotypes from the 1980s, but it’s just crap.
Genius idea, why doesn’t anyone challenge him to get a psychiatric evaluation? I’m sure he will rise to the occasion and score HIGHLY.
The best unbiased opinion on Trump and the state of American politics. I want the writer of this piece to run for president:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/10/swan-song-for-the-donald-gop-party-bosses-plan-to-take-out-trump/
Will the Donald wear the Presidential veal parmigiana on his head? “Heavy lies the head who wears the crown.”
While we can nitpick over the duplicity of MK and any number of the media, the real takeaway from this whole story is still the fact that Donald Trump was called out on his true view of women. How can a person be voted in to rule a democratic society that has been on the record as having uttered demeaning, sexist statements? If any candidate in any way bullies the disenfranchised through their speech, how is that going to lead to a government that favors “freedom and justice for all”? How are their views going to influence policy? Even though the majority of people laugh Trump off as a non-contender, this whole debacle has raised an important point for all voters: we should really be looking for the leader that is most concerned with serving his/her people and creating a national society of fairness and well-being. Does such a person actually exist in the current pool? That is what we should be finding out.
And the fact that Trump is still in this race is making me very afraid.