Last night was the first episode of I Am Cait that I didn’t watch. In my defense, I had a really bad headache last night and I went to bed at like 8 pm. Thankfully, there are enough clips and recaps that I don’t feel left out. This week’s episode was about how the Kardashian-Jenner clan felt like Caitlyn had abandoned them, and not just that – that Caitlyn was actively disrespecting Kris Jenner specifically and the entire family generally. The focus seemed to be on the fallout from Caitlyn’s Vanity Fair interview. Kim confronted Cait directly:
It pisses me off that Caitlyn’s defense is “well, it’s the truth!” I’m actually Team Kim here – Kim was on point, trying to explain (like an adult) why Caitlyn needed to stop throwing the family under the bus and why some of the kids have a problem with Caitlyn’s rewriting of their family history. Yes, Caitlyn is on her journey, but she’s still a PARENT and she needs to figure out how to be a parent to all of her kids. Which brings up one of the most revealing problems within IAC: Caitlyn’s journey is all about Caitlyn and no one else. Everyone else has to validate Caitlyn, even her children.
In the rest of the episode, Caitlyn sits down with Khloe and Khloe basically tells her to back off Kris Jenner completely and to think about Kendall and Kylie.
Again, I’m on Team Khloe. Except for the hair stuff, that’s annoying.
Cait also meets Chaz Bono for the first time. People Magazine has a promo for the next episode, which will apparently include some kind of tearful confrontation with Kris.
Kris Jenner confronts Caitlyn in new clip: 'You're just not so… amazing to the family': http://t.co/euDieekjLA pic.twitter.com/42zbecXD4a
— People magazine (@people) August 17, 2015
Photos courtesy of E!, Getty.
I like Bruce better which is saying ALOT!!
I like Caitlyn better. I would rather see an open adult, confronting their true identity and the world around them than a hen-pecked recluse who lives in the shadows of their true self. Kris Kardashan may be a great business person, but she was an overbearing, abusive spouse on the show. Might it be difficult to be “nice” to someone who was a total b%tch?? I would guess so.
And as far as parenting goes, they BOTH have issues. Helping your daughter promote her sex tape and taking no issue with your other daughters having older, married boyfriends with pre-existing baby mama issues. Give them both gold stars.
“Kris Kardashan may be a great business person, but she was an overbearing, abusive spouse on the show. Might it be difficult to be “nice” to someone who was a total b%tch?? I would guess so.”
This is an excellent point. I felt like Cait was unnecessarily harsh in the video clip, but you’re right about Kris treating Bruce like crap for the majority of their time on TV together. I distinctly remember episodes featuring them fighting because she wanted Bruce to act younger and look younger, and because he wasn’t stylish enough. She actually called him embarrassing. I also remember an episode where he wanted to buy something and Kris refused to give him any money. This family thought nothing of airing Bruce’s dirty laundry and talking about how Kris manages all of the money and gives Bruce an allowance because he was badly in debt when him and Kris got married. They certainly thought nothing of treating him like a joke whose feelings don’t matter, so Caitlyn has a right to feel like she’s done caring about Kris Jenner’s feelings now that she wants to cry on camera about their great love story.
They’re both narcissistic assh-les. The more we experience Kris and Caitlyn, the more I feel terrible for Kendall and Kylie.
Oh my god, me toooo!! I miss Bruce! What is wrong with me? It goes against all my usual feelings/politics etc. Feeling sorry for the K Klan? I is confuse.
Totally agree. In reading this story, one thing occurred to me. People have essentially turned against this family. With Cait voicing her opinion re her feelings on Kris, what if people suddenly turn on Cait and start embracing the K family, again?! 😖😖😖😖. I don’t remember it taking Paris Hilton this long to go away.
My brother underwent the exact same personality transformation and threw his family under the bus when he became Brie. All while we were reeling from the news still. I miss Brian who was such a loving, laid back friendly guy like you miss Bruce. I’m not a Kardashian fan but watching Bruce go from a laid back, friendly guy to become Caitlyn, a catty bitch that throws his family under the bus parallels so much with what happened to my family. I can’t help myself. I wonder sometimes if it isn’t all of the hormones my brother is taking. I know when my hormones are all out of whack, you don’t want to be near me.
Bruce was NOT a good man. WHY do people think he was?
He abandoned 4 kids BEFORE he became a Kardashian.
LOOK at his lack of parenting Kendall and Kylie. Kylie is a MESS. HOW can anyone respect Bruce as a person? As an athlete, yes, but NOT as a person.
Ugh.
Agreed. This is not a black-or-white issue. Both Kris and Bruce are terrible parents.
^ @Paris & Christo ~ THIS! I think I watched a partial KUWTK once, just because I seemed to instinctively loathe them. But, I could not dummy down long enough to tolerate the narcissism, arrogance, and shallowness. And yes, Bruce abandoned at least 3 (?) other children when he took up with Kris. And didn’t he specifically ignore the daughter, for some horrible reason that had nothing at all to even do with the daughter? Kris is tripe as well, she should have encouraged him to stay close to those children. Their illuminati Christmas card the other year turned out to be completely prophetic. WTH?! Are they full in, and communing straight up with demons?
My apologies to my own mother for having zero things nice to say. I would actually have to explain these people to my mother. Judgement is upon us.! Thanks Jenner Kardashians..
It is obvious to see that Bruce is only about Bruce. Probably always has been.
So much for Caitlyn being a better person than Bruce, I guess.
LOL! Very true. I watched 2 episodes of this train wreck and couldn’t take it anymore. Although why I should be surprised that an individual who was raised and pampered as a star athlete, Olympic gold medalist, celebrity would be a self-absorbed jerk is beyond me. The only spot of credit I can give is that Caitlyn is actually allowing herself to be portrayed this way.
I said this a while ago, as well! I was hoping that Caitlyn would be a better parent but so far, not so much.
I don’t know if it’s a matter of Caitlyn allowing herself to be portrayed this way – I think both Bruce and Caitlyn completely lacked self-awareness and humility and that’s coming through now. Sadly, I think it’s too late for Caitlyn to be much of a parent at all to Kendall and Kylie.
Just because you change your physical appearance, doesn’t mean your personality changes. She has been the same person for 65 years and it will take a while to change if it is going to happen. Also, if Caitlyn is allowing herself to be portrayed like this, then shame on her.
@GNAT, totally agree. I was done with the show and Caitlyn in general after the second episode. I had been a big defender of Caitlyn’s, but most of what I’ve seen has just been indefensible. Between the first and second episode, Caitlyn seems insistent that everyone around her has to be fabulous and glamorous at all times. She made her mom and sisters get their makeup done and she made one of her transgender friends, a college professor who was a world more interesting than Caitlyn, change into a more stylish dress and get her hair and makeup done despite this woman protesting and saying that sort of thing wasn’t her style. Can you imagine going to a friend’s house and feeling they were judging you and wanted to force you to be “fabulous” instead of just accepting you for who you are? That’s a really ugly characteristic.
Caitlyn has obviously carried on Bruce’s worst traits, and I think perhaps now because Caitlyn feels free, these terrible traits are going to go uninhibited. Maybe Caitlyn will actually be worse than Bruce was.
Yeah, this whole thing seems to be an excuse to play dress up and get a do over (ie: shirk responsibility for all things done by “Bruce”). I see no real depth or complexity to this transition. I see a desperate fame whore with a different pro noun. And lord help us, when the Kardashian women are the actual voice of reason….
I think she said so as much in the VF article. She blamed all the “bad” things on Bruce and she thought Caitlyn would be a clean slate. I’m sorry but that doesn’t erase what you did or who you are (in non gender terms).
Yep. No surprise, really.
I have no idea why anyone would have thought differently. That’s what I found so confusing about this whole thing. I understand the trans part now, I just didn’t understand how anyone thought the transition would come with a completely different personality.
Lord have mercy. The world is coming to an end. I am on Team Khloe and Team Kim as well. They are totally right.
We’ve all said that Bruce changing his exterior to reflect his true inner self (Caitlyn) does not change character flaws. Same character, she just happens to be living in the right body now. And as time progresses, we see that her character is not different than Bruce’s. I think as Bruce I felt sorry for him on KUWTK. But I clearly was not paying enough attention because I would not have liked him.
I agree with you. And I really don’t get why people say that PMK is a terrible mother bla bla….so is Caitlin! This whole family is so messed up! Kendall and Kylie were a distraction…wtf?!
That’s my problem with this whole Caitlin thing. Kudos to him for finding the strength to transition after all these years. But that still doesn’t erase the fact he seems to be a shitty dad to his kids in general, and the funniest thing is at least Kylie and Kendall had him in their lives actively for years. His older kids got jack shit in terms of a presence. It’s annoying how he tries to splice his identity and be like ” Bruce was the bad parent, but Caitlin’s going to be amazing” and it’s like nope…..you are bringing over to Caitlin what you had with Bruce.
I am t the point now thinking that this is going to turn into a major cluster-f*** if it hasn’t already.
Like he is going to decide that being a woman isn’t all that fabulous and that maybe he was happier before?
Caitlyn seems to think everyday is her wedding day and its all about her all the time, she is going to find this isn’t a realistic way to live
This is classic narcissistic behavior. Bruce was a narcissist and Caitlyn is too. I do feel bad for Kylie and Kendal because it sucks to have parents with personality disorders.
They are ALL narcissists. And Khloe looked like a petulent cow, floucing her processed hair/extensions here and there with one hand while sucking in her cheeks to the point of pursing her lips into a goldfish. All the while, she had a distracting half eye-roll the entire time. I really used to like Khloe, but then she has slowly revealed herself for the fake that she is…like all the Kardashians.
She smelled the vagina napkins.
HOW can anyone like/ have liked Khloe? She is VILE!
+1. I used to half way like Khloe……but not anymore. She’s overused being “real” as an excuse to be mean and bitchy. During the entire scene w/ CJ, she just looked like a bitch. Having said that ….CJ is a narcissist, and she is definitely going thru a second adolescence as was said is common. But I do believe in the VF article that CJ was telling the “truth” as she knew it. But the narcissism won’t let CJ see that KJ not wanting to be in a relationship with a woman isn’t evil and is totally understandable. I love me some Mr Dirty Martini….but if he wanted to be Miss Dirty Martini with me, well–its over. O V E R. And that doesn’t make me a bad person.
OK Kim. I can kinda respect how you handled Cait here…..Kinda.
OK Kim. I can kinda respect you and how you handled Cait here…..Kinda.
A carppy parent will always be a crappy one, no matter what sex he/she chooses.
+1 Or course, anyone can choose to change and work harder on family dynamics, but she seems just as self-obsessed as the lot of them.
I hate to admit this but I’m team Kardashians in this situation. I watched the videos above and Caitlyn is really being careless. Kim and Khloe are just trying to look out for the people who were clearly most affected by Cait’s transition–Kris, Kendall and Kylie. It doesn’t sit right at all how defensively Caitlyn reacts to that.
“Yes, Caitlyn is on her journey, but she’s still a PARENT and she needs to figure out how to be a parent to all of her kids. Which brings up one of the most revealing problems within IAC: Caitlyn’s journey is all about Caitlyn and no one else. Everyone else has to validate Caitlyn, even her children.”
This is 100% correct. I guess this explains why Caitlyn immediately sent out a tweet saying “my work is done” as soon as Kylie turned 18. Caitlyn seems to believe that because the general population has accepted her, her family needs to just shut up and get on with it too. She doesn’t seem particularly interested in hashing out the emotional aspect or being careful with her children’s or ex-wife’s feelings. Seems like Caitlyn has that “it’s my time now” mentality and feels like she wants to live her life fully for herself without any kind of responsibility to her children, and that is completely wrong.
That clip of the conversation between Caitlyn and Kris made Caitlyn seem heartless, full of herself and unnecessarily cold. You know it’s bad when I feel any kind of empathy for Kris. I am shocked at how well Kim handled this. This is honestly the first time she has been able to articulate a point without sounding like a moron.
I really thought that comment “my work is done” spoke volumes as well. Who says that when their child turns 18? First, it’s all about her, not the daughter. Second, oh thanks for seeing being my parent as “work.” And third, it’s over, really? Oh, ok, bye. Weird.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of terrible parents with this mindset; they see children as a hindrance to them living their lives fully. For them, parenting is seen as a shackle that binds them until the child turns 18..after which, they are “free.”
I HATE that I’m defending Caitlyn but growing up, my mom always told me the same thing. Every time there was a fight about curfew or boys it was “Until you are 18 you will follow my rules”, stuff like that. When I went away to college and turned 18, she said that I was on my own in the sense that I would have to effectively police myself, she wasn’t going to do it anymore. It was exciting and scary to have so much freedom all at once.
But the difference between Caitlyn and my mother was that my mom was very strict and quite the enforcer when I was growing up. She was an involved parent, unlike Caitlyn. I’m not sure that Caitlyn ever did her job as a parent, so it’s odd that she would make some grand proclamation about her “work” being done.
‘my work is done’
you’d think Cait raised a world renowned brain surgeon!! Lmao
Kylie will be the one who’ll pay the highest toll when this circus will be over. The older sisters know how to keep floating, kendall has a career in the model industry.. but Kylie.. she’ll have nothing to support her. No education, no self respect, no career and just too young and vapid to be savvy enough to start saving or invest the money in something durable. she expects her fans to fawn all over her forever and ever.
She won’t be able to do anything apart from taking selfies all day.
I feel quite sorry for her.
It seems like Caitlyn had a personality transplant. And not a nice personality either.
The only thing that comes to mind is that spending all those years with 6 famewhores means Bruce was the same as them and Cait is even more so.
You can’t spend 25 years with Kris if you’re not like her.
Worst mother but best manager. Cait? Worst father for sure… we’ll see what he can do as a mother I guess
I wanted to throw up when I read that quote. Excuse me, but you have not parented for at least 3 years, or your youngest would not have been sleeping with a man 8 years older than her!
I am sickened by both of those parents.
@Kitten
I think with your mother is was a case of you are no longer obligated to flollow my rules – I have shown the best way forward, as best I could, and now you are an adult and I trust you from here. With Caitlyn, it sounded more like thank God that’s over and I don’t have to do anything about you anymore. But maybe I’m reading too much into it.
Changing your gender doesn’t change who you fundamentally are. So most of the issues that existed when Cait was known as Bruce are all still there. Everything has changed yet nothing has changed.
On a shallow note: Guess she’s keeping the duck lips, huh?
Agree with all, and yeah, those duck lips are quite distracting.
Absolutely. And egad, duck lips overload.
God they looki like twin sisters.
Am I the only one who didn’t think Caitlyn was all that harsh towards Kris in VF? I truly thought she would let loose once she separated from Kris. Watching KUWTK Kris was always so mean to Bruce, I wasn’t shocked that they divorced and he transitioned.
I’m not a fan of either Kris or Caitlyn, but I thought their divorce actually played out quite civilly.
*There’s an interesting conversation on Radar, about how the Kardashians are slowly turning on Caitlyn now that her show is tanking. That she will soon become another maligned Kardashian Ex*
No, you are not the only one. I thought it was a fair assessment. Anyone who has seen the show can confirm as much.
I too thought CJ was fair in Vanity Fair. Kris wanted to pretend that she didn’t know the real deal with Bruce, but that is just not floating. Kris married Bruce because he had a name she wanted to maximize, and bless her heart (yes I’m southern)….Kris parlayed the name into money and fame for them. Kris needed Bruce’s last name early on for her ambition. She used it and they both benefitted. Bruce benefitted early on (and later too of course) from Kris’ business savy. And in the earlier years, Kris swallowed her pride and her distaste of his gender issues. THen after the success of KUWTK, she didn’t need Bruce the way she had….and her distain and disgust showed. He became more of a potential liability rather than the asset that he was. (knowing which pronoun to use here is difficult.)
So I think Caitlyn told the truth in VG, and Kris is miffed because in HINDSIGHT people recognize her for the slick took she was and is. No one really looks good in any of this alas. Not Kris. Not Bruce Jenner or Caitlyn Jenner. And not Kim or Khloe.
Because the reality is that marriage is always complicated and only the two people in a marriage know what really went on. Kim and Khloe need to sit down and shut up when it comes to the Bruce and Kris marriage. They DONT know. Not really.
It’s all staged. I’m team no one. They’re all horrible.
+10000
Yep. I don’t think they do anything authentically – it’s all calculated and plotted out and formatted by seasons and storylines and endorsements.
Seriously. It is a reality tv show (show//entertainment) and the more controversy, the more ratings/viewers.
Agreed. That’s why I don’t watch it.
Bruce/Caitlyn has been really shitty to Kris. He wouldn’t even have this platform if it wasn’t for her ‘business’ skills – as much as i hate to admit it – he had the secrets, he chose to live with secrets and distance between them – no wonder they weren’t happy together. He has to take his share of the blame too.
WRONG. Kris would have never had a platform for anything in Los Angeles post-divorce from Robert Kardashian had she not found the first gender-questioning male that she could dominate and attach her train to. Yes, she does have business and marketing skills if you count 2007 and beyond, but there would have been no 2007 and beyond for Kris had she not had 1991-2015 as a wife to Bruce Jenner. Kris didn’t even wait a year before remarrying. She divorced Robert Kardashian in March 1991 and married Bruce Jenner in April 1991…..not even ONE MONTH between marriages.
^^Bruce said essentially the same thing!
That Kris needed him and his connections when they were first together, he said that once KUWTK took off she no longer needed him and that their marriage started to fall apart.
Bruce has said it was because of her marketing and pushing him that helped with his success as a motivational speaker. That was their bread and butter until they sold their kids off. There’s no real competition here. They both contributed to their “success”, they both exploit (or neglect) their kids, they’re both total vapid famewhore monsters.
I hate to say this, but you are wrong. Kris actually helped pull Bruce by managing his once very successful career as a professional motivational speaker. She is an incredible manager. Mothering, not so much. Plus people act like Bruce was so great before he got with her. He had already abandoned 4 kids and 2 wives by the time they got together. It’s rich Caitlin is now portraying herself as a victim. Just because she felt she can be honest now, doesn’t mean others, including Kris, aren’t suffering from your years of lying and deceit. But yeah, he benefited by being with her too.
I can’t believe I’m typing this but both Kim and Khloe made great points which Caitlyn totally ignored. The dismissal of her youngest daughters was awful.
Dude!
Isn’t Caitlyn’s just acting like a Kardashian? Kardashian 101 throw people and family under the bus to make ones self look better and rewriting history to fit your agenda. I don’t understand why would any of the Kardashians and the younger Jenner girls have a problem with it, unless the problem is they don’t like it when it’s when it’s being done to them.
EXACTLY.
^THIS!!!!! All these Kartrashian/Jenner women are all the same – plastic, fake, narcissistic and obsessed with their appearance. I think Kris is just pissed at all the attention Caitlyn is getting and so is Khlozilla (does she DO anything besides go to the gym and take selfies?) Kris doesn’t seem to have a problem with Kylie behavior so why blame Caitlyn?
I read the interview and thought she wasn’t harsh at all. When I think about the many times they have all disrespected Jenner at some point (most notably Kris wanting to change her last name back to Kardashian while married to Bruce), they really don’t have room to talk.
Or not having one picture of him on the family portrait hallway……all her and the girls nothing of bruce….it was weird…..that was the one episode i actually watched and thats what i noticed…Kris was ALL about the Kardashians and totally forgot she wasn’t one anymore.
I never liked Bruce bc he seemed like a bs parent, and so does kris, but I find him worse because Kris can’t hide her horrid as well as Bruce always did. As Caitlyn she’s the same parent inside and I dont support shitty parents.
Damn u C for making me have the same opinion as K!
Kris is just as shitty, if not shittier parent, than Caitlyn. She ENCOURAGES her daughters to whore themselves out.
I 110% support the LBGT (I think I’m missing a few letters there) community. However, as I’ve said from the very beginning: coming out as transgendered does not automatically make one noble. Bruce, as evidenced by his own documented history, was described as an absentee father to his oldest children. Just because Caitlyn is on a journey, which is wonderful, does not preclude her from being a responsible parent.
I usually use LGBTQIA+, although I wish I was familiar with a more appropriate term, as the one I currently use is a list of a few prominent identities along with an indication that there are more rather than an all-encompassing term.
All I see is plastic surgery. These people can barely talk because their faces are so frozen. That screenshot of Kris trying to cry is tragic.
“Which brings up one of the most revealing problems within IAC: Caitlyn’s journey is all about Caitlyn and no one else.”
Hard to believe a show called “I Am Cait” features a self-centered narcissist at its core. I honestly think Caitlyn is as bad as Kris, and arguably worse than Kim, Kourtney and Khloe combined. Obsessed with MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME. It’s kind of rich that she’s being called out by those her taught her to be that way but at the end of the day, Caitlyn didn’t *have* to follow in their footsteps, she chose to do so. Twitter followers, pap walks, magazine covers, trading interviews for an ESPY – she told us what was important to her from the get go. None of this should surprise anyone.
Let’s just stop covering ALL of them.
I see that Caitlyn has legitimately ruffled some feathers, but because she is so popular, the Kardashians have to walk carefully in these waters. Kris knew more and accepted more than she lets on, or will ever let on, for her own personal sanity.
It would be easier to empathize with theirs points if this entire family — especially Kris, Kim and Khloe — hadn’t thrown others under the bus to create storylines and promote their own publicity agendas.
Yeah like EVERY man they ever dated or married?!
I wasn’t a big Bruce fan but had empathy for him living with that woman and her children. She did what she felt was in her own best interest even at age 65. I watched a bit of the show last night and her attitude appeared disingenuous. The other transitioning women seemed to feel as I do, that as a person of privilege, the financial aspect of the transition which is nothing to “Cait” was a life long struggle for a lot of them. He threw on a wig, a dress, had some surgeries and wham, you have Caitlyn the new superstar. Her elderly mother’s emotion and confusion was palpable. Then there’s those girls. Kendall seems strong and able to handle it, but the constant headlines of Kylie show a young girl struggling.
I have been I guess “impressed” with Kendall of late. It seems at least to a casual observer that she’s more or less doing her own thing, building her own career and seemingly distancing herself from the klan. Maybe someone in the fashion industry recommended that she make her own way? I don’t know. She’s become relatively quiet (by Kardashian standards) in the middle of all this nonsense while working steadily. If that’s the case, she’s very smart to look out for herself and not get bogged down in reality melodramas. She is, begrudgingly, winning my respect.
Well two weeks ago Kendall went out with an open shirt and no bra showing her boobs to the world.
She’s part of the klan, and she has no career if she isn’t.
I agree. She is the half sister of the Kardashian woman and it appears on the surface that she has a bond with them. Plus she gets a check to be on the show. Kim tries to take the credit for her success, but Kendall did inherit her father’s genes and is long and lean which is the critera for a supermodel I suppose. She doesn’t have any blatantly obvious plastic surgery. She is naturally pretty in a unique kind of way. Kylie on the other hand has molded herself into what she thinks is attractive but the mainstream doesn’t agree. She dates Tyga a man seven years her senior who has a child and a contemptuous relationship with his ex-wife. She seems to be going in the direction of young Kim. This may be through jealousy of Kendall, or through negligent parenting with Kris focusing on the empire and Bruce focusing on Caitlyn. There’s no winner, most every family has the strongest and weakest link. It’s hard to keep up with those Kardashians, they’re digging their own graves. But after the show, Kendall will still be a supermodel.
@Aren, yeah but that sort of thing I associate as much with “model” than Kartrashian (even though of course being tacky and showing too much skin is their bread and butter). I’m just saying, to this casual reader, Kendall seems to be trying to do her own thing more than the family thing. There will no doubt be overlap between the two at times; overall though, I think her scale is tipping away from them.
that’s a bad case of proctitis face up top
1.) Kim seemed as if she was reading from cue cards.
2.) Kim loves to throw Rob under the bus any chance she gets so who is she to say anything?
3.) Cait is right about how the marriage was over a long time ago and that Kris is just putting on the “water works” for the media. THAT IS TRUE.
4.) Cait could have said plenty back to Kim and Khloe. Like the fact that when Cait was Bruce NO ONE in that family gave a sh*t about him. Now that Cait is getting attention, the rest of the family can’t handle it and is a bit jealous to be honest. Mind you, I’m not a huge fan of Cait either.
I’m home today and commenting way too much. I agree how horribly Kim treats Rob. She always has. She is not a kind person, extremely narcisstic. Even on the first season, she was mortified by her filthy sex tape and then five episodes later was posing nude for Playboy. It boggles my mind how the show continues. They lost all of the “real” they portrayed In the beginning and are always camera ready. Kourtney is okay, delusional but to me the most normal. But poor Rob never stood a chance. All he wanted to do was please his deceased father. He obviously suffers from depression which is not permissible in Kim’s world. I wish he would succeed and bypass her and show the world what a miserable human being she is. Good luck Northwest.
Rob is the only one I feel sorry for even remotely. And he was a complete twat to Rita Ora after their break up. I’m just waiting for the tell all from him.
I think if Rob wrote a book and told the truth, it would be amazing. But…with that said, they would use all of their power and money, which sadly is what matters to keep anything Rob had to say under wraps. If things were leaked, they would scream mental illness. Possibly in the distant future, that book will exist…..like when Madonna’s brother told her tales, but at that point no one cared anymore. As the kids grow up and see what color the sky really is in the Kardashian world, and with Scott being thrown to the curb, a tell all will eventually happen. Right now everybody can be bought off….sadly, because it would be the only Kardashian book I would read.
While not a fan of Kardashian Inc., I really liked both Kim and Khloe here. What their family is struggling to integrate seems pretty normal under the circumstances – my own family had similar issues – but of course they’re waaay out there in public. All in all I think the family, including Caitlyn, is handling it well and honestly.
But Caitlyn’s emergence and her public stature sure has revealed aspects of the broader movement that I dislike and are straight up authoritarian.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/culturehousedaily/2015/06/call-me-caitlyn-or-else-the-rise-of-authoritarian-transgender-politics
And here I am yet again. Any thoughts from either Kim or Khloe are scripted to fit into the next exciting episode. This is a reality tv show, but every line is written for them. No ad libbing here. I didn’t read the script, but there are times Khloe gets emotional and since she practically raised the youngest girls, her concern may be legit. But then again when you saw the half naked Kylie still 17 with her penis bd cake and 27 yr old lover and the likes of Chris Brown and his crew partying it up with Khloe in tow, it’s difficult to believe she knows right from wrong.
My brother transitioned into Brie. A lot of the struggles emotionally that my family had and the narcissistic disregard for his family’s emotions shown by Bruce/Caitlyn tracks a lot whith what my family went through. Sadly, in our case the personality transformation and ham fisted way my brother handled breaking the news means none of us speak anymore. When I tried in January after a year of silence, my attempt went no where. I don’t even think I want Brie in my life given the personality transformation and celebrate with me and don’t burden me angle that was taken. Heck, my brother’s therapist told him if the conversations with your family upset you, give them ten minites and walk away and he did it. Imagine thinking of someone one way for forty years of your life in my case or almost seventy years of your life in the case of my parents, completely ripping that image to shreds and then giving your loved ones TEN minutes each.
What a selfish “batard.” Kendall and Kylie are a “distraction?” That is one of the most hurtful thing you can tell a child. What a self-absorbed ass hole, both as Bruce and Caitlyn. Gee whiz. I just wish I could give both those girls a hug and tell them they are not distractions. And people wonder about Kylie, already out looking for a father figure. BTW, I don’t think this guy Tyga is the answer, but he probably pays more attention to her then her father ever did.
Caitlyn is only the exterior-shell. She is still the same person, the same person who abandoned her older kids and will now do it to her stepkids and other daughters. Parents who avoid their kids have their own issues with hating themselves and inadequacy. It wont go away if you start wearing makeup and dresses…
Not sure if I like Bruce or Caitlyn better, but I am struck by how removed from reality he/she seems to be. Maybe it’s that upper-class (i.e. Republican) bubble he/she has lived it for the majority of his/her life, but there’s a real disconnect from the rest of the world. I was very put off when watching the episode before last when she was talking to other transgender individuals and the subject came up about poverty and lack of employment opportunities in the transgender community. Caitlyn spouted off a very pat party-line response along the lines of,”…well, if you give people welfare they have no incentive to work, blah blah blah” Really, Caitlyn? You’ve lived a very privileged life since the 1970’s and surround yourself with sycophants who kiss your ass and make your path as smooth as possible so PLEASE enlighten us on the mindset of those living below the poverty line. And now, she’s not getting why her family might be upset about the VF article. Work on your compassion, Caitlyn, not your genitals.
Who are these bitches to confront Cait about a not even rude statement? All she did was tell a truth. Kim has no capacity for truth in her life so when she hears it she goes off the deep end. That’s all it is. Truth hurts. I for one have watched these whores for many years and the way they treated Bruce was offensive and vulgar. Their behavior, If the younger girls really need her she will be there. Kris is still butt hurt. All he said was he still loves Kris and if she wasn’t such a jealous money hungry pimp the would be friends. It’s not unheard of to stay with someone while they transition.
Oh, please. How much did Demon Mother pay them to “confront” Cait? I’ve watched enough bits of the show to know that Kim and Khloe have said much worse about Kris and neither seem to like her that much. Kim depends on Kris but ignores her whenever she feels like it, even when in the same room. Kimmie finds her phone more fascinating and gets angry with Kris routinely. Khloe is understandably seething with resentment against Kris, who has undermined her self-esteem since Khloe was a child and used Khloe as a live-in nanny when only a very young teen. They even had Khloe learn how to drive at 13 or 14 so she could drive the little ones to the emergency room if needed, meaning there was no adult around much of the time. Khloe is the only one of the girls into cooking because she actually had to learn how back then, to feed her younger sisters (who have said she feels like their mom).
Kris isn’t having a hard time over any of this, she’s just out for more publicity and can’t resist getting her sources of a commission out in front of a camera. Khloe had been reluctant to participate in Cait’s show, so this is how she was convinced to do it. She gets to play the firm parent, dumping on Cait the same way they all used to dump on Bruce. They are such a dysfunctional family. Yes, Cait should be a better parent to Kendall and Kylie, but the same should be said about Kris. Demon Mother is only interested in her kids when they can make money for her. Cait at least has a few real emotions.
Cait’s interview was pretty kindly toward Kris, considering the way Kris acted on the show. Kendall and Kylie have eyes and ears. Nothing Cait said was untrue and they know it. And they’re both over 18 now, surely they’ve figured out what a liar their mom is and that she’s putting on an act for everybody. Kris knew that Bruce was wanting to transition when she married him, he was on hormones at the time and it showed. But she needed to find a rich man fast after her husband had enough of her affairs and divorced her, and she thought she could control Bruce much better than Robert Kardashian. Kris is just angry because she finally lost control of Bruce and now has to deal in public with Cait.
Yeah remember when Khloe said in an interview that her mom told her she needed a nose job when she was only 6 years old? Was that supposed to make Kris look good? Hypocrites…all of them. They don’t even know how to live in the real world anymore because they are so used to “fake” drama on their show and living in front of cameras with their hair and make-up all done. The way Khloe was “smizing” while talking to Caitlyn was hilarious !
Also, remember when that Vanity Fair article came out? ALL the Kardashian/Jenners were tweeting how much they respect and love Caitlyn. So something is not adding up here ! They loved Caitlyn when she was getting a lot of press and now that her show is not pulling in high ratings like expected, the Kardashians are turning on her. How predictable.
Both this how and the Krapdashian show are simply ways for people with little to no talent to keep their fame. Would have had much more respect if Jenner would have just made this decision and transition within their own family and not had to find a way to make money off of it, like everything else they do
This, totally. This post was right on the money. I respect Jenner being on her personal journey, but she chose to bring 6 children into this world, and she has no interest in communicating with them, much less raising them. She is self centered beyond belief, and those kids have suffered time and again. Whatever Kris is, Caitlyn chose to abandon her first 4 kids, and she doesn’t care how the other 2 feel and she puts no effort into raising them. Maybe the Kardashians are products of their environment, because watching their adult role models is horrifying.
I dunno, I have mixed feelings about all these people. I think Kim and Khloe are obnoxious as ever. What did either of them say that was even substantial? All I saw were a couple of bloated lips and not much meaningful conversation. Kris seems pissed off because someone other than her or her offspring are getting press attention. I didn’t find that Vanity Fair article offensive at all. I don’t see what the big deal is. But moreover, I fail to understand why the family doesn’t handle some of this stuff PRIVATELY.
Cait and her show are just not that interesting. It’s too early in her transition to be hosting a show like this. She’d be better off figuring out how to live her life, re-enter the world, and learn to cope. Living on a secluded mountain top just seems so escapist (and elite) in my opinion.
jesus. we have to hear about it in realtime AND 2 months later when it all airs on a E.
f’n A.
Umm yeah! I everyone supported Bruce coming out. Then when he started getting attentions
Caitlyn/ Bruce become rabid. Kris was this and that. Come on dude! enough of this poor me.
Did Kris put a shackles on you, that you cannot leave over the years which you claimed you were abused by her? You have managed to divorced one wife to pursue your coming out as transgender, but managed to marry another woman because you’ve changed your mind.
You divorced your wife number two for the same reason. Then landed yourself with Kris.
Excused my eloquent french cuss on this. You were with Kris for 20 + years. If she was all that bad, why you did not flee? you have managed to do that with wife 1 and wife 2. You were loving the high life with Kris no matter how overbearing she was.
I myself, don’t believed that all that was been projected toward Kris are 100% true and Bruce was out and out victim on the married fiasco.
It would had been so hard on her Kris and the children, no matter what everyone opinion. We don’t know what behind closed doors. But the way people taking sides like they were there 24 7 and has inside knowledge of how their life comings and goings.
Why some are so hard on females when star separation happens? I noted right away. The judgement on females it atrocious and sympathy for male usually higher on the scale.
The female star right away branded a (Lunatic, insane, or bipolar or bat-sh7t crazy) when nasty divorced happens. We don’t know the whole truth, we just assumes.
I notice Caitlyn/Bruce morphed to Janice Dickinson they looked like twins.
Sour grapes. These women have spent a lifetime getting plastic surgery and wearing one revealing outfit after another for attention, then along comes Caitlyn and is more famous than any of them combined, instantly, with almost no effort.
History will remember Herstory and the name Kardashian will be a footnote on the Caitlyn Jenner Wikipedia page decades in the future.
Or maybe there’ll be one link that still works- to a picture of Kim showing off her fake ass. Congratulations, Kim! Look at your contribution to the history of the world…
Nobody with the surname Kardashian has any relevance, and they’re literally butt hurt. That’s a LOT of hurt.
There is a saying for this entire clan: like peas in a pod. They are ALL disgusting.
Rewrite family history? Thats a laugh. Thats ALL they do well. So I’m not getting how the girls are upset about that.