Olivia Wilde will overcome sexism: ‘It evens out… we’re so much smarter’

Olivia Wilde

Olivia Wilde appears in the September issue of Elle for a feature on what it’s like to turn 30. They interview several actresses, but Olivia’s interview dropped first. She overthinks the aging thing like so many of us tend to do. Livvy’s also profoundly influenced by her motherhood experience and tends to fall into magical-womb speak. Her interviews sometimes stir up a debate, and I think she says controversial things without even realizing it. Like the time she said her ex-husband made her vagina die. That wasn’t good. Here, Olivia alludes to the happiness she felt upon divorce, and how she’s evolved in the three years since. She may step in it a bit when comparing male and female development, but I don’t know because I only have one child and can’t compare daughters and sons. Let’s do this:

On her upcoming thirties: “I find that most of the women that I really look up to, both women I know personally and women I admire from afar, are in their forties. So now, my thirties seem like this great opportunity to develop the experience and wisdom that will allow me to have an even greater decade in my forties. Thirties feel like a fertile ground. The twenties are for f***ing up, that’s what you’re supposed to do, and your thirties are for using the knowledge you gained from said f***ing up to make something, to put that experience toward something useful. And then I think your forties are an opportunity to enjoy what you’ve worked for.”

Her life changed at 27: “I got a divorce, and I felt like I finally started my career. I started making movies and projects that I just really believed in. I remember a good friend saying to me, now isn’t it relaxing that you don’t have to be perfect? And I thought, that is something that happens for everyone, not just for professionals. At the end of your twenties, you realize you are inherently flawed, and that’s great, and that’s what makes you dynamic. For me, personally, it was around 27 when that kind of return to self took place, of living for myself, not living to keep up expectations.”

On sexism and male favoritism: “It evens out in other ways. We’re so much smarter. You know, it’s interesting having a son. Someone told me that it’s good when you have a son first because when you have a daughter first and then a son, you think your son’s slow. A lot of parents freak out because they’ve seen a daughter progress so quickly and they think their male child is like damaged. But boys are just naturally slow.”

More on aging: “At 30, it’s not a lack of awareness of consequences, but I think it’s another biological, evolutionary shift that allows you to break away from the tribe. And to be yourself. And to live for yourself. And I think it’s maybe designed so that you will be an elder, maybe it’s designed so you can be a parent but, you know, you don’t have to be. The point is that you then are free to make whatever decision you want. If you think about it, we’re still living by these biological patterns that were designed to allow us to survive — I mean we were all going to die by 30 anyway. Maybe that’s what it is! At 30, the reason we feel this release is because we’re supposed to be dead. This is our, like … our afterlife.”

[From Elle]

I really have no idea what Olivia’s talking about with her “break away from the tribe” reference. She sounds pretty kumbaya and mother-earthy, which is probably her idealism talking. Livvy’s a pretty positive person (except when she’s kinda trashing her ex), and she’s delivering an inspirational missive for a fashion magazine. They wanted her to discuss the awesomeness of turning thirty, so that’s what she did. Now, let’s see what Olivia has to say when she turns 40. A whole lot can change in a decade.

Olivia Wilde

Olivia Wilde

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  1. Lilacflowers says:

    Sounds like Olivia got stuck in an anthropology course.

  2. GlimmerBunny says:

    I like her answers a lot. I can’t wait to be in my thirties. I just turned 23 and I’ve started hating my 20s (after finishing college, 20 and 21 when I was still in school were the best years of my life).

    I’m now working and I like my job but I still feel so young and not ready to be starting my career. Then there’s the added stress of money, relationships, friendships and other insecurities so I just can’t wait until at least some of it works out 🙁

    • lana86 says:

      silly thing to wish for your life to pass away faster, lol. Any age can be fine, but there is no guarantee that the pieces will fall into place as u imagine it. There is no such moment in life when “everything becomes right”. And even when it does, who know for how long? The main thing that changes in your 30s is that you finally realize that it’s probably as good as it gets and start appreciate the present, mundane and imperfect as it is.

    • Naddie says:

      Part of our disappointments comes because we idealize a certain age. Not trying to lecture but it’s a trap.

    • Mispronounced Name Dropper says:

      I’m in my forties and I still hate my twenties. Worst decade ever.

    • Pamela says:

      GlimmerBunny— I look back at my 20s as a beautiful mess. There were struggles and mistakes, and yes, the older I got (44 now), the more I learned and the more things got easier. (Though there are always new mistakes and new struggles )

      BUT I have to say, I appreciate things that I have now so much more because I remember the messiness of my 20s. And there are things I miss too.

      Just do your best to make it through without anything too tragic happening, and enjoy it for what it is.

    • lucy2 says:

      There’s positive and negatives at every age. You never know what the future is going to bring, so try to enjoy the positives!

  3. Maya says:

    Yeah – trashing your ex husband constantly so screams I am a strong feminist.

    I like Olivia but the way she always talks bad about her ex and their marriage just puts me off her.

    However I do agree with women are more intelligent and fast learners then men #feministforlife

  4. INeedANap says:

    Normally I don’t go for gender-based generalizations in any direction. But a bunch of my friends have kids, and they’ve said something similar: having a girl before a boy can be tough because in the beginning you worry your son is slow. Another friend had twins, one girl and one boy, and she out-checkpointed him for the first three years.

    I mean, eventually as the kids age, true intelligence and skill shake out in unexpected ways, but the early years seem to favor the girls.

    • MrsB says:

      I don’t know, I think those reports are exaggerated. Everybody says boys are slower, as though it’s common knowledge, but that just hasn’t been my experience for my son or his friends (boys and girls) that he’s grown up with. I honestly think birth order matters more than gender. In most cases, the first born will pick things up quicker than the second or after. My son is 7 now, but he was ahead of schedule for everything when he was a baby.

    • Scarlet Vixen says:

      I have never heard such a thing. I have a boy and 2 girls, and my son has always been on a faster track developmentally than either of my girls. I’m the youngest of 6 and at 36yrs old am still subjected to family anecdotes about how much quicker certain siblings were at learning certain things (usually my brothers). Babies/toddlers/young children all develop at their own unique pace regardless of gender. My son & my nephew were born 4 weeks apart. My son was running by 10 mos but didn’t talk until 16mos. My nephew was the opposite-put his effort into soeaking freakishly early but his chubby butt didn’t walk until he was 14mos old. Heck, my son was even way easier to potty train than my daughters. Are we so determined as a gender to assert our dominance that we claiming even male infants are inferior now?

    • Ronda says:

      the research is all over the place. also when it comes to IQ, last i read was that with women its more compact in the distribution and with men its more spread, meaning the dumbest man is way dumber than the dumbest woman but also that the smartes man is way smarter than the smartest woman. if you look at society it could be true, men are the extreme gender when it comes to success and failure.

      but IQ differences between the genders are also controversial.

      all we really know is that boys struggle more in a traditional school enviroment.

      it also comes down to the environment, my brother for example was walking way faster than me (very early for a child) because he had to keep up with me and the neighbor girl and crawling was too slow. i had the attention from people around me so there was no real need for me to be able to walk that fast.

      we all still have certain views on gender that will play a role how we raise the children even if we dont do the obvious pink for girls and blue for boys.

      • Kay says:

        IQ, EQ, SI – all so silly in the battle of the sexes. 😉

        As my Mohawk Great-Grandmother said – “The day a man can give birth, that’s the day he is MY equal. Women decide who lives – and who DOESN’T live. There is no equality between women and men.”

        Enough said.

      • MrsB says:

        “all we really know is that boys struggle more in a traditional school enviroment.”

        Certainly true with my son. He actually loves to learn and does fine academically, but boy does he hate school. If he only has to sit out once a day, we pretty much consider it a good day. :/

      • Jay says:

        “if you look at society it could be true, men are the extreme gender when it comes to success and failure.”

        that’s an empty comparison – throughout history men have been granted much more opportunity for education than women, so of course they have tended to succeed more.

    • Josefa says:

      Can we stop measuring intelligence based on gender and just focus on the person’s actions? There are dumb people out there going dumb things, and their genitals dont really matter.

      And idk about her kids, but if my mom flat out said Im dumber than my sister on a magazine I wouldnt feel very confident about myself.

      • Talia22 says:

        Indeed, EQ and SI are far more important in measuring a person’s value to society than IQ. And just as an aside, women rank higher in those categories than men.

  5. lana86 says:

    “The twenties are for f***ing up” says the woman who hugely succeede, remarried and had a child in her 20s. So its not really accurate, is it.

  6. InvaderTak says:

    Oh godddddd…just shut up.

  7. Naddie says:

    She sounds alternative. Cool answers, but I still don’t know if she can act or not.

  8. Astrid says:

    Who is she? I can’t imagine regular parents thinking their son is slow after having a daughter first. Rubish….grow up.

  9. jinni says:

    Did she have to use the word “slow”? Couldn’t she just say they don’t develop certain skills as quickly as girls and kept it at that. Idk, that comment just seems so wrong. The word “slow” just sounds so insulting. Like I just know if some guy said anything similar about their daughter they’d be ripped apart.

    • MrsBPitt says:

      jinni…I didn’t like the way she said that, either…and I don’t believe it! Some children develop faster than others, period! Gender doesn’t matter!!!! Personally, SHE sounds a little “slow”! I was reading her answers thinking…”WTH”

    • Ronda says:

      “Like I just know if some guy said anything similar about their daughter they’d be ripped apart.”

      bingo. as you see in the comments she actually gets praised for putting women above men as inherently more intelligent.

      its one of the dumbest things you can do, not only is it wrong and unfair it also lets people judge women on different stanards. i mean if i know someone is way smarter and doesnt remarkbly perform better i will think less of that person.

  10. TheOtherMaria says:

    I’m going to assume that breaking away from the tribe she simply means you stop caring how others perceive you in comparison to how you see yourself.

    I’m 34 and the insecurities I had in my twenties seem silly, I’m more accepting of myself, flaws and all.

    • Jorts says:

      Agreed. But I’m still bitter about how self-critical I was in my twenties. I was so hot too…Sigh. Youth is truly wasted on the young.

  11. Norman Bates' Mother says:

    Like always – I agree with some of her answers (like the one about being yourself and and not living to keep up with people’s expectations) and side-eye the others (generalizations about the entire gender) and I still can’t decide whether I like her or not. I want to like her, because I enjoy reading most of her interviews and I find her pretty eloquent, even if she lacks boundaries and can be sometimes too new agey. But then she makes sure to remind everyone how awful she treats her ex-husband and I feel sorry for him. It’s not like he was a jerk, abuser, or anything. She had always spoken highly of him, there were pictures of them hanging out and smiling together after the divorce and the only problem seemed to be that they got married too early and that they lost their passion for each other along the way. But then bam!- she fell in love with Sudeikis, started talking about sex marathons and trashing her ex with the dead vagina talk and it seemed unfair. She probably went through some sort o sexual revelation, but it’s not her ex’s fault they were not compatible. He is an actual living human being not a character in her story or merely a talking point – he doesn’t deserve to be publicly humiliated time after time just, because she finds Sudeikis a better lover. Jeez. I hope the 30’s will bring her a revelation that what she does is incredibly hurtful.

    • Lilacflowers says:

      Given her background, family, and education, she should sound eloquent but she seems to lack filters or a general perspective of how others actually live.

    • BJ says:

      Hm, you might have a good point. She and Tao Ruspoli were very friendly even after the divorce. But then Sudeikis came, and all thing kind of changed.

      Still Tao is still following her on twitter. And Olivia’s parents are til this day in a very good friends with Tao.

      To be fair with Olivia I heard a rumor that part of a reason they divorced that her ex slept with one of her closest girlfriends while they were married. This is just a rumor(which may was partly mentioned in that “My vagina died” monologue). Which was by the way not exactly about her and her marriage and not meant to become public, but people always forgeting those two little details…

  12. Ronda says:

    What i said yesterday about male celebs putting women on a fake pedestal obviously applies here too. what a crazy thing to say.

    Her answer to sexism is sexism. And she even applies it to her own child, wow. The way she talks about her ex she really seems to have prejudices against men.

    • PennyLane says:

      Exactly. The answer to sexism is equalism (for want of a better word), not simply more favoritism in the other direction.

  13. Kate says:

    I like Olivia but the bottom line is she came from a super privileged family and it shows. She grew up super rich with every advantage. She’s always been super thin and “model” attractive. It’s pretty easy to be confident when you have had everything handed to you on a plate. Also, she looks pretty in that dress but it couldn’t be a bigger rip off of the American Hustle 70’s style that everyone was obsessed with last year if it tried….and Amy Adams wore it with more raw power than she does.

    • Jorts says:

      You said everything here. Well done.

    • Pedro45 says:

      She grew up privileged but not “super rich”. Her parents were journalists, not billionaires.

      • Kate says:

        Her parents were really successful journalists. I believe her mother worked for 60 Minutes. They knew a lot of famous people and made very good money. I’m also fairly certain her family had money on top of that going back further in the timeline. And then she married a literal Prince.

        Olivia’s Mom is, to me, an amazing career woman who I really admire. She was a powerful female journalist in the world of lots of men—a real life Lois Lane. But they were def. wealthy.

      • Pedro45 says:

        Deleted. I’m sorry, Kate. I don’t know why I am being so argumentative over an actress I don’t even like that much. I am having a bad week but I shouldn’t take it out on you.

      • perplexed says:

        I’m wondering why she didn’t take the same path as her parents. The shelf life of an actress is so short, with a few exceptions. I guess she could really love acting, but nothing about her stands out in that regard.

  14. Mabel says:

    I don’t know why I can’t warm up to her. To me, she always has a smug look on her face and her constant ex bashing is a big turn off. She needs to shake off her first marriage for good and stop talking about it in every interview she gives.

    • lucy2 says:

      There’s always been something about her that bugs me too. She probably is a perfectly nice person, I can’t say I’ve ever heard anything bad about her, but I always go into reading her interviews with a healthy dose of eye rolling ready and waiting.

  15. platypus says:

    The rate a healthy child develops at doesn’t really say much about how intelligent or self-sufficient they will be as an adult, so I don’t understand why parents get so hung up on these things… I was an extremely mature and intelligent child, to the point where teachers didn’t know what to do with me. As an adult, I am anything but, compared to many of my “slower” classmates. I suspect many proud parents take it for granted that their child is thriving and on the road to success if they mature at a faster rate than usual, and maybe get a bit too lax with their parenting because of it.

    • Ronda says:

      That parents take it for granted could be one thing it could also simply be that some children are just faster but not better. my brother was a very good pre teen “athlete”, the trainers really thought he would become a huge thing but what it was in the end was that he simply reached the maximum of this skills very early. with kids you always project in terms of where their talent could take them but talent is hard to see you can only see what they can do at the moment and imagine what could come of it, some people just peak very early and give off a false impression based on that.

    • Brittney B says:

      Yep.

      I was always ahead of the curve, but as a 20something? Completely stunted, emotionally and academically and professionally. I think it has to do with conditioning, though. If you tell your kids how smart and advanced they are from birth, they miiiight not value hard work and social skills as much as other kids. Eventually, when everything evens out, they have to face the harsh reality that they have a lot of catching up to do socially.

  16. Daria Morgendorffer says:

    I’m always put off but her need to sound like “the cool girl” in every interview. Maybe that’s her real personality, but I always think of Amy’s speech about the quintessential cool girl every time I read an Olivia Wilde interview now.

  17. Ann says:

    Two things: aren’t winners and nominees of the Darwin Awards only men? Secondly, I think she’s lying about her age.

    • hmph says:

      Why do you think she’s lying about her age? She does look a lot older though, I would have thought mid to late 30s but to be fair, a lot of caucasian women age faster.

  18. Brittney B says:

    I hate this age obsession. You don’t magically change into someone else when the last digit of your age re-sets… 19->20 and 29->30 aren’t drastically more significant than 25->26 or 33->34.

    But maybe I’m just fed up because I just turned 28, and my friends are obsessed with the fact that 30 is getting close. I never think about it, but I have a friend who will turn 28 in December, and she refers to us as “almost 30”. Because of all this celebrity age obsession and cultural bias toward “youth”, I can’t help but feel some dread when I hear that… but I tell her to shut up about it, because I don’t want to care about numbers. It’s like the last few years of any given decade don’t even exist or “count”, because you’re already rounding up to the next decade. Screw that; I want to keep these years!

    It’s hard not to relate to this, though. I changed at 27 too; I left my job and started working from home as a freelancer, and I’ve had so much extra time to reflect and enjoy life and learn more about the world. I’m happier and more aware of my privilege than I’ve ever been, and when I think back to 21 or 22… or heck, even 25… it feels like I was still a child. A naive, self-involved, self-destructive child. I’m only *now* becoming an adult, and I refuse to speed up time by thinking about my 30’s as upcoming “prep” for being in my 40’s… life is too short as it is!!!

    • Jorts says:

      When people say “your thirties” they’re referring to an entire decade, and yeah, things change in a measurable way between say, 28 and 38.
      Not only do you (hopefully) change as a person but your priorities change, you mature and you experience LOTS of environmental changes.

      First, your friends start getting married and having kids..
      And no, I’m not talking about the ones who got married at 25 and were pregnant in their late-twenties. I’m talking about the ones who SWORE they would NEVER get married and NEVER have kids.

      Second, you get a career, you start making REAL money and so do your friends.

      Third, people start moving out of the city. Again, we’re not talking about your friends who grew up in your hometown and never left, we’re talking about your city friends who said they’d NEVER leave. Welp, they’re now buying houses in the ‘burbs so they’ll have more room for the kids.

      Beyond that, with inner-direction, self-reflection, a desire to grow, and a commitment to becoming a better person, YOU change. By the time I turned 30 I started to shift my priorities.
      Yes, I was always introspective, but in my twenties I found it easy to distract myself with superficialities. By 30, those things suddenly started to matter less. By 35, I felt like I had made significant growth as a person, becoming who I had always known I was (if that makes any sense). As I get into my late-thirties, I can say with certainty that I’m 100% different than I was in my late-twenties. I expect that I’ll feel similarly when I’m in my late-forties, looking back on myself now.
      ….and isn’t that wonderful? I think it is.

      I love feeling like I’m changing in all the right ways as I get older. It’s not something to dread, it’s something to look forward to.

      Now my intention is not to patronize people in their twenties, it’s to say simply that unless you are a person without depth, without the desire to grow, you WILL change in a noticeable way in your thirties.
      It’s just the natural course of life, and it’s a beautiful thing.

      • Brittney B says:

        Oh, believe me, I’m not resisting the growth at all. I may have worded my comment incorrectly if that’s what you took away from it… I know life changes from one decade to the next, but I just don’t think there’s anything magical — or worth dreading — about the leap from 29 to 30 in particular. Revolutions around the sun are just humanity’s convenient way of divvying up our time here and classifying each other… change happens over time, and there are social constructs involved that affect us too, but I’m pretty insistent on growing for the sake of growth, not marking milestones and making generalizations.

        Like I said, I’ve made significant growth in just a few years of my 20’s, so I’m excited about becoming wiser and better at navigating social situations as time goes on. I changed in a very noticeable way in my teens, obviously.. and again in my 20s. My mom changed drastically in her 40’s. But why do we have to separate our lives into these specific chunks? I also changed significantly from 15 to 25… if we’re marking decades, that’s the one I’d mark. I’m just saying the numbers themselves are arbitrary.

        I definitely don’t think childbirth or marriage would constitute “changing in all the right ways”, though… I’m sure you’re wiser than me, but I have plenty of friends who are married and/or have kids, and they don’t belong to a separate category of society from me just because the government hasn’t sanctioned my six-year relationship and I haven’t thrown a stressful and expensive party to celebrate it. I love watching their kids grow up, but childbirth is one thing I’m sure I don’t want to pursue. The whole “oh, you don’t know for sure, girl!” thing is the whole reason my partner can get a vasectomy but no doctor will tie my tubes. It’s BS and it’s sexist and certain milestones aren’t inevitable, no matter what anyone says. But I digress…

        Yes, change IS wonderful. But categorizing change according to specific years? Not so much. We change for reasons that have nothing to do with the last digit of the year on our birth certificate. We change because that’s what life is… growth and discovery and maturation.

  19. Hannah says:

    I want to like her but I just can’t. I think she’s a pretty poor actress who thinks because she’s reasonably intelligent (for Hollywood) her work is interesting or that she somewhat deserves to work with the best.

  20. AlmondJoy says:

    I disagree. Some women are smarter than certain men, and some men are smarter than certain women. I don’t like when one person tries to speak for an entire group of people. Chances are, the blanket statement really doesn’t apply to everybody.

  21. Linds says:

    Did she just call her son stupid? lol

  22. MildredFierce says:

    What I can’t understand is where is her feminist stance when HARVEY W. proposition another actress to have a threesome with him and Olivia Wilde? She is “a Harvey Girl” a woman in NEED of MAN to get ahead. Yeah, she talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk. Next.

    • BJ says:

      When happened that threesome proposition? And Weinstein produced just one of her movies among the over 30 she was in. Doesn’t sounds like a “Harvey Girl”.

  23. Magnolia says:

    She does need to stop trashing her ex husband. I have a feeling that she slept with him before they wed so she should have known that they would not be compatible. This whole women smarter than men shit is just dumb, she is clearly pandering to her audience (a women’s mag). Which makes me pissed that she thinks I am so stupid as to fall for it.

    And she looks like a drag queen in that red dress sitting down.

  24. Tacos and TV says:

    Side eye all day. She is basic and always has been. Sorry.

  25. sofia says:

    Fugly shoes. That’s all ^_^

  26. BJ says:

    One of her problems, that in printed interviews she came as a bit preachy and judgy, partly because she overusing the term of starting someting with her own persepective then switching to “you” and then back to her perspective. That’s seems to me the way she speaks, but in print it often can be a disadvantage. Based on her remarks I think she has a very humble personality.

    Another thing. I think she is getting better at acting. She is probably never get the level of a Cate Blanchett or a Tilda Swinton or a Jodie Foster, but she is decent and developing. Many of you thinks she has no acting talent, I think she is quite underrated in that perspective. I wonder how large audience and the critics will react to Meadowland and Vinyl.