I had a sixth sense feeling that we would be hearing from Josh Duggar today, following Gawker’s amazing exclusive about Josh’s Ashley Madison accounts. I kept refreshing People Magazine to see if they would be getting the exclusive and lo and behold, but the Duggars ended up posting their statement on their website (although the specific post is currently down). Michelle and Jim-Bob wrote: “When we learned of this late last night our hearts were broken. As we continue to place our trust in God we ask for your prayers for Josh, Anna, our grandchildren and our entire family.” Josh made a separate statement:
“I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife.”
I am so ashamed of the double life that I have been living and am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him. I brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions that happened when I was 14-15 years old, and now I have re-broken their trust.
The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, I was hiding my own personal failings. As I am learning the hard way, we have the freedom to choose to our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. I deeply regret all hurt I have caused so many by being such a bad example.
I humbly ask for your forgiveness. Please pray for my precious wife Anna and our family during this time.”
[Josh’s statement via People]
Um… the way he states it with “pornography addiction” makes it sound like the affair was an afterthought, a consequence of his addiction. Personally, I don’t think a man shells out a thousand dollars on Ashley Madison just because he has a porn problem. A man doesn’t pay $250 EXTRA for an “affair guarantee.” Granted, Josh probably does have a porn addiction on top of everything else (being a child molester and an adulterer), but let’s not forget that he really is a child molester and adulterer as well. Also, I really want to know what kind of porn he was addicted to. No, wait. Don’t tell me. I have a pretty good idea.
Update: When I wrote this up originally, I was going from People Magazine’s text of Josh’s apology/acknowledgement because I couldn’t get onto the Duggars’ website. As it turns out, the Duggars kept taking the statements down and replacing them with drastically reworded/edited versions. The latest version (?) doesn’t mention porn addiction at all. We’ll have more tomorrow.
Photos courtesy of Josh Duggar’s social media.
Doesn’t he also say he became unfaithful?
I think he’s only copping to being unfaithful”in his heart” via porn. This guy only admits to what’s being proven at the moment. But no worries- some hooker will probably come along in 5 minutes and out him and then he’ll have to finally admit he was unfaithful with his penis along with his heart.
The repugnant “addict” excuse is so gross! It’s worse that the ” exhaustion” affliction those so much more savvy derelicts pushed on the public back when. Every man is a sex addict!!! Men love sex and love attention and ego massage. You present a man with a willing, moderately attractive female with the promise of descretion, there’s almost no way they’ll turn it down. No matter how beautiful the wife. They need constant affirmation. Not all but most will do whatever they can get away with. The ones that don’t certainly think about it.
To be fair, apparently the site was 90-95% men. He may have never found a partner. Except I’m sure he looked elsewhere if he didn’t find someone on the site
At least he wasn’t looking for a man, then they’d have a real problem on their hands. Cheater and molester? God will save him. He just better not be gay.
Exactly. These judgmental aholes are getting a taste of their own bitter medicine. I recall some of the shame, rejection and condemnation they publicly heaped others. Back at ya! I trust you’ll ‘reap what you’ve sown’! Or perhaps you’ll discover real religion instead of your hate filled fake version.
LOL You said it better than I could, but I totally agree, the way he has this worded, he can later say “oh no, I meant I was unfaithful because I was looking at porn, not because I had an affair.”
Oh petunia….
I don’t even know where to start. Sex addiction can be very real. It releases serotonin and endorphins, just like cocaine. Many might overuse the term, but it exists. And EVERY man is a sex addict, who wants love, sex and ego massage? I think every HUMAN wants that. Not every man is an “addict”. Your gross blanket statements and naive assumptions are just… too much. Just no.
Sex addiction is very real. However, quite a few people try to paint a broad stroke for their behavior by saying they are an addict. Sometimes it’s the truth but I find that too many people hide beneath the addiction mantra to escape retribution.
Shia LaBeouf… violent jerk.. tried to blame it on alcohol. Granted alcohol makes me more violent, but the rage is still there sober. It’s how you cope with it. Emilie Hirsch.. violent jerk, blamed it on alcohol. Jesse James & Tiger Woods both tried to paint their failures as a human being on sex addiction. Michael Douglas, however, I honestly believe has a sex addiction who is now in recovery. It’s why he fought so hard for his son, as well. He knew the way the brain thinks. And sometimes you have an addict who is also an a$$hole. It’s how it is.
Okay complete pop-psychologist here but this is what happens when you try to stifle, control and shame any normal sexual thoughts or interactions people have as they are developing.
I’m not dismissing his issues or making any other comment about him as a person – but this “cult” rears these children to fear their sexual selves and that they are failing God, their families and (probably) the country with their wicked ways. It’s no wonder it becomes all twisted in their minds and what may have been a passing curiosity or adolescent experimentation becomes a repeat cycle of break God’s law, punish self, promise to never do said thing again. Wash, rinse, repeat. Then it develops into an obsession and they’re left on their own without any real direction or assistance. “Pray away the sin” does not count as guidance.
These people and their odd, prudish, fundamentalist doctrines are dangerous on so many levels.
I thought that. The saddest part of that Ashley Madison thing was he seemed to be asking for what most of us get from dating – that loved up hormonal rush when you are first involved, the exploration in a responsibility vacuum. Married off at college age, babies on the way almost at once, suddenly before 25 with 3 kids and living the daily grind…. what a miserable life, when you haven’t ever really consciously chosen it. I didn’t start that family life until my 30s, and by then I was ready.
Of course, most stuck in that cult manage not to molest their tiny baby sisters, when denied a normal teenage and young adult experience. And I don’t see the chances of his wife looking around for something more in her life as very high, either. Poor girl, she needs to dump him so desperately, but I’ll be amazed if she ever does. She was raised in a vat of Kool Aid.
Quite honestly I don’t believe you need to be a psychologist to figure this out. Who might he have been if he’d been allowed to explore in a healthy way with peers as an adolescent? As it is, he’s been locked in the obsession/shame cycle for a decade or more now.
I don’t envy him his life at all. I agree he seems to be seeking what most of us had in highschool and/or college. Something exciting, fun, no-rules-but-our-own giddy type of connection. No fast track to marriage, no babies, just finding out what you like and who you like.
K 2: Their cult has a section in their home-school manual about how to deal with molestation. This is NOT an isolated thing. It’s common enough that there is protocol. Wonder why, eh?
And while I agree with what you are saying there were TONS of men on the site that probably had normal lives and just wanted to cheat.
The problem with Josh is that he is a pedophile!
And a hypocrite, creep, etc.
He edited his statement a couple of times. Gawker got all the screencaps:
http://gawker.com/josh-duggars-apology-i-have-been-the-biggest-hypocrit-1725405629
The internet is forever!
I was almost expecting him to dust off the old “the Devil made me do it” chestnut, and I was a bit disappointed when he didn’t. I am now laughing my ass off that he first tried to blame the Devil but decided against it. I guess even he knows that isn’t going to fly in the 21st century.
I was totally expecting him to announce he has a sex addiction and is immediately entering rehab. Porn addiction is pretty close. But haven’t heard anything on rehab yet …
Addiction is the new Satan.
Ha. Ha ha. Ha-ha-ha. Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! HahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA–GASP–HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
F you, Duggar! The bad way!
The first version I read this morning on a random site he did blame the devil… I’ll look thru my history to see if I can find it. It has changed several times.
He did. And he’s only sorry because he got caught. Nothing like a rabid fundie Christian gettin busted for diddling his sisters AND porn AND affairs to make a heathen like me feel like its Christmas in August lol
He did say he was unfaithful to his wife. and I became unfaithful to my wife
They got that out of the way quickly so the show could go on?
Best way to handle it actually, though. No cover-up. Clean admission. Can’t stand the guy but credit where it’s due.
See, I looked at as him looking at porn was being unfaithful to his wife, not that he was unfaithful by having an affair with someone.
I guess you could take it that way, except he was on a site specific to cheating rather than 24/7 porn.
I guess he’s blaming the porn on his cheating rather than saying he JUST stepped out because he wanted strange.
BRE – That’s how I read it too. I thought he was referring to this from the Bible.
“I tell you that anyone who looks on a woman with lust has in his heart already committed adultery.”
Jimmy Carter referenced this same passage when he did an interview for Playboy in 1976 and to this day it is still brought up in his interviews.
But if Duggar was saying he had a physical affair, I hope journos also dig up some details about his sidepiece(s).
@bre exactly. Celebrities love to be tricky with their wording. He never admitted to an actual affair with another woman. To them the porn would also be considered cheating. So is he deflecting or admiting or what? Not to mention porn isn’t viewed the same way as adultery so he’s hoping people ignore the affair side and focus on the porn which to most people isn’t a big deal. Someone helped them with this for sure. But even if he’s saying the porn caused him to cheat he is yet once again placing the blame on women. Oh these jezebels made me do it!
I read it as “I looked at porn and then I had an affair.” As if the porn was the gateway to adultery. He’s blaming the porn.
But you’re right that it’s ambiguous and I’m sure that’s how he wants it.
He’s only sorry he got caught. He’d prefer to be able to continue with his sleezy behavior.
He could have blamed others in the media like he did last time. I am really surprised he didn’t say that what he does is private and that the media is to blame for bringing all of this out in the open.
The revision has cut all reference to porn now, just admitting the infidelity.
I think they twigged that he was admitting something nobody had yet accused him off and tried to backpedal.
Also, Satan!
That’s how I read it as well, in the context of the sentence, and because the website was apparently largely a scam (with the majority of female profiles being fake). I guess he could have found other ways to meet women, who knows.
But Ashley Madison isn’t a porn site; it’s for cheating.
It was a pretty good statement. I half expected him to blame it on the big wicked city of D.C.
I was expecting the ‘ID theft’ excuse drawn out until some muckraking gawker writer proved, without a doubt, that it was him.
He did though. In Fundie-speak, he is saying that the big bad adult film industry made him do it. Wait and see his supporters turn their wrath on the unGodly media. All this naked flesh everywhere be making mens cheat.
The wording of that sentence is so weird, right? Like, I totally missed that he was saying he was unfaithful because I was only reading it in context of his porn addiction. Is he saying he put the p in another woman’s v or is he saying he was unfaithful because he looked at porn?
AM is not just porn, though, it is actual cheating with real women. Maybe he felt that if he muddied the waters with the porn addiction, people would not realize he’d actually cheated. And didn’t he pay money for a “guarantee” that they would find him a cheating partner?
It’s probably vague and questionable by design.
Agree with PhenomenalWoman.
I think it was deliberately vague and confusing. And I think he cheated with an actual person from the site. If he had only looked at porn and not cheated, he probably would have said so.
I originally read it as him admitting he front hugged another woman but now I’m not sure.
It’s a very good statement, I’ll give him that.
Intentionally ambiguous run-on sentence as to whether porn = unfaithful or sex acts = unfaithful.
Is anyone shocked that an overly sheltered religious fundy conservative zealot brought up in a “man’s word is law” and “all is forgiven” cult who molested four younger sisters and a babysitter and never received judicial intervention or counseling would have a porn addiction or cheat on the uneducated cult member wife he married when barely out of their teens and with whom he rapidly produced four babies? It’s like a dysfunction casserole for Pete’s sake.
Bonus points to grumpy bird for working in “front hug.”
Yes, the wording is deliberately vague, I agree.
Size Does Matter, yeah, and as an agnostic/atheist, I’m still not sure I want to hear Jesus and porn in the same breath. It’s disconcerting.
I read it as an admission that he was unfaithful to his wife in the literal sense.
I’m actually pretty impressed that he fessed up so thoroughly.
If he takes Jesus’ words literally, it wouldn’t require actual sex for him to be unfaithful. Just the mere act of lusting after someone and wanting them for their sexual gratification would be considered being unfaithful.
Doesn’t mean he didn’t cheat; just bringing some context to his statement as I understand from my years of growing up in fundy Christianity.
My take? He’s bringing PORN to the forefront because by extension, he and his family can blame his problems on the degrading morality of our society.
I can just hear it… “It’s PORN’s FAULT! Oh, If only we didn’t have a heathen society with pornography, and women in short skirts willing to cheat oh, and gay marriage, well then “man” would not be tempted to stray. He wouldn’t be tempted into hypocrisy. He wouldn’t be a curious teen.”
These people are the worst. They will twist this to try to make themselves the victims.
I skimmed it quickly, but did not notice any comments about present behavior. This may be a set up for a new narrative (I.e., show opportunity).
@Grumpy Bird – he front hugged another woman – I’m trying not to LOL at my desk.
I wonder if there’s such a thing as Jesus Porn? These people need the outlet.
@Kaiser
Miss Jupitero was kind enough to link to the most recent Gawker article, which captures all the different versions of his apology to-date.
http://gawker.com/josh-duggars-apology-i-have-been-the-biggest-hypocrit-1725405629
In one version of his apology he removes any mention of his addiction to porn and outright admits “I have been unfaithful to my wife.”
So, it looks like spending $250 for the affair guarantee paid off! (I think GNAT must be right about AM hiring prostitutes to meet this guarantee, because what woman in her right mind would want to have sex with a married child molester? Ugh.)
I think that sub-set of Christianity believes that any *ahem* release not with your wife or gazing lustfully at another woman counts as adultery.
Yeah, but he bought the cheating guarantee, not the look-see.
@Kiddo True. I wonder if he did go through with it. And if we’ll hear from the poor lady that had to deal with this probable 3 pump chump. Not that I advocate anyone going to look for her, that was a consensual (we hope) decision she made. /holds up hands
Jesus is quoted in the Sermon on the Mount that adultery starts with lust, not the act itself. Josh would know that passage well.
He also would be familiar with verses that state “you may be sure that your sin will find you out” and “For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.”
MonicaQ, if her day job was nanny to the stars, you never know, she might want to talk.
@Kiddo hopefully she’d have better fashion sense than the last one.
If this woman he was possibly with – which I believe he did literally cheat is anything like all of the women that Tiger Woods cheated with, or that big time NY politician that got caught with a prostitute (I can’t remember his name…Spitzer maybe??), I believe she will come forward to sell her story to the highest bidder. I bet she could get a really big payday if she did!
He is unfaithful to Anna by looking at porn. He’s looking for sexual gratification with someone other than his wife.
That’s the problem I see with porn — it’s basically using someone you see in a screen to gratify your sexual appetite. The best and most satisfying sex is when two people selflessly give themselves to the other because of the love and trust they have for each other.
I can’t fault a statement where he takes ownership for what he’s done since he was a teenager. Hopefully, he’s really broken and willing to do what it takes to make things right. But as so many have pointed out, their particular brand of Christianity may make that impossible.
People use fantasies all the time, whether it’s imaging some guy down the street, an actor or a porn star. They might even be thinking about that with their significant other, and it doesn’t mean they are cheating. Human beings are naturally turned on by more than their own spouse. It doesn’t mean that they will act on it, though.
Interesting thing Kiddo, is that while porn doesn’t automatically lead to adultery, rape or child molestation, those who do these things are addicted to porn. At least I’m not aware of an instance in which sexual infidelity or crime wasn’t coupled with a porn addiction. I just think it’s more damaging to the fabric of society than people may realize.
My circle of friends doesn’t include a bunch of child molesters and rapists, so I can’t answer that. I do wonder if the porn/sex addiction thing is sometimes used as a mitigator (sp?) for bad behavior. Like, I couldn’t help it. It was BEYOND ME, as a mental issue and not something I did through free will. I’m not discounting that people may actually have those addictions, but then they may not be raping and molesting.
Nutballs, I absolutely agree with you.
Kiddo, I think for some, porn is not enough. It becomes unsatisfying to simply masturbate so they look for an actual person to perform the sex act with — adult or child, depending on their proclivities. That’s where people like Josh will look at porn and say that their addiction to it led to cheating or molesting. It seems to start with an addiction that over time requires an act with a person to be satisfied.
What makes sex satisfying is different for everyone! Some people enjoy it within the context of loving monogamy, others find marriage stifling and prefer recreational sex with multiple partners. Neither way is wrong.
What IS wrong is promising monogamy to someone, then cheating and lying about it. Blaming pornography is a crutch, ultimately responsibility lies on the liar/cheater.
I think Josh isn’t cut out for the expectations placed on him by his family. The failure is his to own. He shouldn’t be a husband or a dad, hell, he shouldn’t be around children!
NUTBALLS, but the porn is not necessarily driving those compulsions. They may be using porn as an attempt to satisfy them and then when that rings hollow they escalate behavior. I mean. unless they were subjected to violent and child porn through their developing years, maybe.
“The porn is not necessarily driving those compulsions. They may be using porn as an attempt to satisfy them and then when that rings hollow they escalate behavior.”
I agree with you there, Kiddo.
I could not disagree more. There is nothing wrong with good ol porn– it’s when excess comes into play, or addiction, that it gets muddled. Like most things in society, a little is fine, a lot is a problem.
I have a particular objection when Jesus enters the discussion, and is being quoted on exact verbiage : nobody was there recording anything… Like most good stories (and the child’s game ‘telephone’) things are misheard, exaggerated, or embellished. Faith is one thing, and it’s called faith for a reason, as there simply is no proof, but believing, actually believing, that Jesus said certain words, that’s somethinng else altogether. Take the message, sure, if it makes you feel better, but accept that the message has been altered to fit the reader.
CatFoodJunkie, just to be clear: I’m only quoting the Bible because that’s the book that the Duggers believe to be God’s words to humankind. I’m not expecting anyone else to subscribe to it or making a personal statement for that matter. I tend to keep my beliefs about God out of my conversations here since it becomes a bit heated when faith/religion get brought into the discussions!
Pretty sure this isnt about the show Kiddo. Atleast not directly. They are getting ahead of it because they really need Gawker and other interested sleuths to stop digging. This release coming so quick is the best clue that theres more, much more. Perhaps a call girl or two?
That was the first thought I had, too. He caved too fast and that makes me wonder what he doesn’t want known.
Maybe not just women. Many conservative Christian office-seekers are secretly with men while they tout “family values” and anti-gay rhetoric.
Agreed. He actually sounded contrite and wasn’t blaming anyone else for his problems. I sincerely hope he means it, and I further hope that this may lead to him turning over a new leaf. Maybe even drawing away from the cult that has such unhealthy ideas towards sex and male/female relationships that it has damaged not only countless girls and women but boys and men like him as well.
Maybe I’m being to pollyanna but this whole mess is saddening on a massive scale.
He’ll probably just double down on the ‘saved’ and repented road. Maybe Jesus did this to tell him to STFU about others.
I know, but it’s just so awful. He’s a child molester, adulterer and porn enthusiast (I refuse to say addiction because that seems like such a cop-out here). This is where his cult has taken him, what their warped dogma has done to him. If this isn’t a wake up call (a come to Jesus moment, if you will), I don’t know what is.
The whole cult seems like such a bait-and-switch trap. It promises insecure men the ultimate male fantasy: women are subservient! they cater to your every need and whim! you are all powerful and your word is obeyed unquestioningly! But in return you are denied meaningful human relationships, your basic sexual needs are not met (and you are shamed for trying), your mind is stunted and twisted, and if you do everything “right” you will be stuck in a marriage where sex is a unavoidable duty resulting in an endlessly growing supply of mouths to feed while you desperately try to shove down your natural urges as they pop up as all kinds of deviant behavior. I don’t know about you, but that sounds like hell to me.
Is anyone else bothered by the wording of his parents’ statement? …”last night” they learned of this ? Must they indicate the time, as in “we had no idea all this time…” They knew of his childhood molesting, hid it, justified it, explained it when it came out, yet they did not know (gasp!) about his porn “addiction” or adultery ?? Color me skeptical.
@CatFoodJunkie, I’m bothered by his parents’s statement because they say they learned “late last night”, which would mean that I knew about it before they did. It wasn’t late last night when I learned about it and and they’re in the central time zone while on the east coast.
I’m also bothered by the numerous grammatical errors in his statement. So much for Squirrel’s brand of home schooling.
This is so sickening. I hope that brood mare he married leaves this disgusting excuse for a human.
Maybe Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar should have raising their own children instead of doing the deed, missionary position, of course, trying to pop out another little money maker.
I may have some sympathy, except for all the HATE he & his family of gypsies have flooded the earth. Screw You. You are making up excuses cause you’ve been caught. The Devil is waiting for you.
Yeah, Josh. We know.
Wow, I totally didn’t know porn causes you to cheat on your spouse! LOL.
My boyfriend watches porn. I’m so worried right now.
HEY, LOVE THE NAME! I think that you should be worried that he’s a hypocritical preacher, on the side.
One day you’ll wake to find him praying all over the porn and that might be terrifying.
My husband does, I am sure. We have a basement and I can’t imagine he is watching reruns of Friends, if a sporting event is not on.
I caught my boyfriend watching TLC. I’m very concerned.
I’d rather my hypothetical boyfriend watch porn than 19 Kids and Counting. Just saying.
Yeah, that’s how I took it. He had affairs through Ashley Madison, but only because he was the victim of this sinful world through developing a porn addition (“only a lad, society made him, only a lad, he really couldn’t help it.”)
Yes, this was my take, too.
Mine too – his words were so carefully stated he was sure to add that this all started with the “Internet”.
BONUS POINTS FOR MYSTIC LORDS REFERENCE! Hehehehe. Nice sly move there, bettyrose.
And yeah, I’m not accepting this as any kind of ‘coming clean’ or ‘taking ownership.’
He’s saying the bare minimum that he has to, he is definitely minimising (that happened WAY back then, and then just now I’ve ‘rebroken their trust’–but I swear I was the perfect Christian in between!) AND the up-front use of ‘porn addiction’ puts all the blame and onus on the porn. ON THE TEMPTATION! Because he is only a weak human, and not responsible, really, for his actions.
Bonus points for OINGO BOINGO reference!
That’s what made me side eye this mess. Really porn is what caused you to cheat?
What he may be saying is that at some point, porn isn’t enough. He’s be jacking off to some strange woman who turns him on more than his wife and eventually that gets old he wants actual sex with someone else who turns him on.
NUTBALLS, he molested two children. They weren’t behaving in a titillating way while sleeping in their bedrooms in kiddie PJs. The porn DID NOT drive his behavior. Repression of normal human sexual development is at least contributory if not causative altogether. I’m not advocating for porn. But the porn element is clouding the issue of HIS ACTS, which is what he wants. Something or someone else to blame.
I’m advocating for porn.
Kiddo, if he’s a Bible-believer, then he’d blame his wicked and debased nature that wants to use other people for his own gratification. Not sure if we’ll get that statement from him though.
I actually thought his statement was good. He took ownership of his actions even if it sounds as though he’s blaming porn. I hope his grief is genuine and not just a PR move. I feel really bad for Anna and the position she’s in within that religious environment.
Sexual fantasies are normal. Why do you think women on this site say this guy or that guy is hot? Same with guys on actresses. They are objects of fantasy on some level. Even people who are dating, before they consummate a relationship, may be fantasizing about the person they are seeing. That is a human characteristic. Are there variations in drive and actions? Of course. But most humans do not go around saying, “I’m only gonna have sex when I wish to procreate. I never think about any other time”. That is most certainly not the norm.
Maybe the rules dictated by his church are so strict that he wouldn’t even be able to ask his wife to indulge fantasies, even ones that are considered tame, because every damn thing is a sin, and then eventually frustration, in lack of satisfaction might lead someone elsewhere?
You can’t say unequivocally that Porn=Cheating. It doesn’t, In fact couples may watch it together.
I think we’re in agreement. Somehow I got lost in this thread and then my page froze, so I can’t remove the last comment.
PORN FROZE MY COMPUTER. JUST THE WORD PORN ALONE, lol.
Kiddo… yep, yep, yep. In my childhood experience of fundy Christianity, sex wasn’t taught as only for procreation — it was something special to be shared between married couples and anything they did was fine as long as it was consensual. I don’t know enough about the Duggers and their stated views on sex to comment on your 2nd paragraph. Do they see it as only for procreation and not recreation?
LOL Kiddo!! That’s why I’ve been careful not to use THAT word. 🙂
@Jorts I think you need to have a tshirt made that reads “I’m Advocating for Porn” to be worn with your jorts.
Jorts, you are cracking me up.
I’m sorry I left out same sex individuals as well, my last statement was not all inclusive.
Starrywonder – +1 Duggar is a con man. He’s externalizing his behavior and it’s evidenced by his statement that boils down to ‘porn made me do it’. It’s akin to saying ‘that woman in the sexy outfit made me cheat’. And his blaming porn is why I don’t believe he is sincerely contrite.
Kiddo 3:33 Does fundie religious repression create sex criminals or attract them? That is a question I have. And if those groups attract them, was the person’s initial attraction to the group motivated by a desire to change or to find prey?
I have the same question about Catholic priests. Per capita pedophiles in the Catholic church is statistically significantly higher than the general population and also that of other religion’s clergy. Did the priesthood create pedos or attract them?
I’m advocating for JORTS. No, wait. I’m advocating for JORTS PORN.
His acknowledgement of his hypocrisy (as overwhelming as it is) is probably the best PR move he could have made at this point. Won’t matter though. He’s done.
+1
Maybe he’s done and maybe not. I’m waiting for the announcement of the “I’ve Been Healed” Duggar missionary tour, coming to a sold-out arena near me.
Listen, that Palin daughter scored big after her teenage pregnancy. Once he is “healed”, he will become the poster boy for “Church cures porn addiction”.
Yeah I can already see a book and speaking tour to the big churches around the country headed to a city near us..
Part of me thought he was going to say the Ashley Madison accounts were for “research” for that organization he worked for. So I’m a little surprised he came out with a confession – though it certainly isn’t complete. I’m afraid of what else he’s going to admit to as it seems more and more evidence keeps coming out.
That wouldn’t have flown. He has two accounts; not one – TWO. This is the best he could do, just come out and admit it and then claim to be flawed and beg for forgiveness.
He’s just doing, like, REALLY comprehensive research.
The first was created before they hired him. I don’t think he needed an affair site as due diligence to sell second hand cars.
Yes, Josh. Yes, you have.
He is not just a hypocrite. He is a molester. An untreated child molester who still has access to many young children. Notice how he responded to the Ashley Madison thing much quicker than the molestation allegations? It’s almost as if he thinks that adultery is a bigger deal than molestation.
Well it is. Lot slept with his daughters so incest is ok. But adultery is kinda in the cliff notes version of the Bible as being bad.
Note: there is a butt ton of sarcasm here.
It was in no way OK for Lot to sleep with his daughters. That story was about the evils of debauchery and other things.
Abraham did marry his sister…
Adam and Eve’s progeny did marry each other, Abraham married his sister and Judah copulated with his daughter in law..Old Testament mores were a *bit* confusing..
The Duggars are more New Testament- the Rapture- left behind type people. They only use the Old Testament when it has to do with any social change that they don’t agree with.
I vote we reinstate the ‘Bucket Brigade’ someone needs to pass me one quick because I’m gonna vomit. Words that spring to mind? Sanctimonious, hyper – hypocritical, self serving, self satisfied utter and total unmitigated wanker. Agree with nic919 above.
Ugh. These people are just vile, lying hypocrites with no values. It astounds me that they don’t see that. I’m glad it’s all blowing up in their faces.
Yes, Josh. We’ll contemplate forgiving you when you go stand in the courthouse corner with your friend Subway Jared. Sicko.
He needs to room with Jared in jail.
Ugh, two people I hope both get locked away for a long, long time……
It always happens in threes, so I’m waiting for another skeleton to come dancing out of the closet, he says unfaithful, so I’m guessing a third party might come out or be exposed here. These apologises are all starting to sound the same;ashamed, mistrust, sorry, sin, family, Jesus and pray. This family is done, while I think they had some chance of TLC doing follow ups or spin offs with the other siblings, it’s all over now. I give it another 10 or 20 years max for one of them realising a tell all book, warts and all about the family.
That is what I am thinking. Could Josh have put out this statement to lessen the uproar when one of the women he cheated with goes to the media? Or could it be something worse? The whole statement seems like he is blaming anyone or thing for his actions. Maybe he should look in the mirror
I fully expect him to go to a Christian rehab within the next three months. He’ll be “cured” of his “addiction,” but we’ll see other women come forward in the future. Maybe men, too.
can’t even admit to being a degenerate cheater, has to blame it on porn.
loads of people watch porn and it doesn’t drive them to cheat. weak sauce
OF COURSE they’d blame porn. They sound like Dr. Park Dietz who testified at the second most famous Quiverfull woman’s trial: Andrea Yates.
“Dietz also wrote that pornography is, “both causal and symptomatic of immorality and corruption. A world in which pornography were neither desired nor produced would be a better world, but it is not within the power of government or even of a majority of citizens to create such a world…a great deal of contemporary pornography constitutes an offense against human dignity and decency that should be shunned by the citizens, not because the evils of the world will thereby be eliminated, but because conscience demands it.””
Source: Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography, Part One, Section 3. Individual Commissioners Statements, Statement of Park Elliott Dietz, Section 1. Pornography and Health.
This guy actually thought he would get away with it. Just like he got away with molesting his own sisters! Where do you think he learned that, huh?
I love how these Christians can do horrific things, and all they have to do is pray on it and bingo! They’re forgiven. Clean slate. Pretty good racket they have going there.
Uh – I hope you didn’t just make a blanket statement. Because that is definitely NOT how Christianity works.
Nah, the statement was a type of Christian who does horrible things, not that all Christians do horrible things.
@Crumpet, I can’t speak for @MSat, but I have been making similar remarks about the Duggar family and people like them and what I mean is that in the American bible bet, hypocrisy and hatefulness is the norm. They hide behind the moniker of Christianity, but their behavior is the farthest thing from Christ-like.
Of course it’s not how “Christianity” works – it’s how these holier-than-thou “Christians” work. Because they know God’s will – and that will is a bit of prayer and clean slate. Bingo!
I think we can all assume that that’s not what was meant here. Stop trolling for something to be offended about while we’re discussing a CHILD MOLESTER who hid his acts behind his religion. You should be offended by that.
And in other news I didn’t need to hear people admit to today………….cringe………
Cringe? I could vomit just looking at his smug, pleased-as-puss face…
So, how many women and did he use protection? His wife needs to get tested STAT!
Since this family thinks birth control and any sort of protection is some form of voodoo. If I were her I’d run to my PLANNED PARENTHOOD and get tested ASAP!!! This family has got to be the sickest people.
She won’t run to Planned Parenthood because she fights against what they stand for – women’s choice.
I do agree that she should be tested. I also would hope that she divorces him and gets her children far from him, but that most likely won’t happen.
His wife Anna also released a statement saying she would be staying with her husband.
So since its clear Josh is right back where he started when he was a young man (sexually frustrated with no outlet except small children) I’m guessing in a few years she’ll release a statement saying she’s staying with him even after he has molested their children.
I really hope it doesn’t come to that, but it probably won’t end well. I really feel for his kids. Their lives aren’t looking too great right now.
Yeah that’s the problem with this whole cult mentality, everyone’s a victim until they do nothing to help protect the next set of victims.
If you want to say Josh was/is a normal young man who being severely sexually frustrated led him to molest his own sisters then you have to look at this situation and see it only ends one way.
Josh will still be frustrated. Josh won’t have porn or affairs to turn to. Josh is still surrounded by children and Anna will turn her head and pretend she hears nothing till another incident occurs – maybe the public will find out, maybe we won’t.
It’s just so damn frustrating/sickening.
@The Eternal Side-Eye, “Yeah that’s the problem with this whole cult mentality”
Totally agree. This also sums up everything about this family. I will from now on regard people like the Duggars and their supporters to be members of a cult. What they practice and believe in isn’t Christianity.
Horrible.
This is truly horrifying, all the more because you’re probably right!!
“and most of all Jesus” really?
” I am thankful to god and also Jesus ”
Seriously the bastard needs to take a long walk off a short plank.
Into shark infested waters.
Thank you and yes! “…am grieved for the hurt, pain and disgrace my sin has caused my wife and family, and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him” – sounds as if he feels more sorry that he might have caused Jesus pain than his own wife and kids!
I know. That gave me pause, too. I once went to a wedding of a friend who’d converted to some fundie denomination and the whole ceremony was focused on Jesus. It was almost as if the couple was marrying Jesus. Having grown up Catholic this was eye-opening to me since Catholics don’t seem to be as focused on offending or hurting or marrying him/Him.
It is true, Jesus has become such a focus sometimes to the near exclusion of the other two parts of the Trinity. I do see some push back on it lately in some church’s though.
Glenn Beck’s recent assessment of areas in the US that are on the “brink of a melt-down” because they’re not religious enough reaffirmed what I’ve always thought: Catholicism is the chilliest of all major American religions.
“In every metro area where Catholicism takes number one, religiously unaffiliated takes number two.”
http://publicreligion.org/2015/08/the-top-two-religious-traditions-that-dominate-american-cities/#.VdYS-meFOzn
Boston, Denver, Seattle, Portland, LA, San Fran…we’re all going to Hell according to Beck.
From what I recall, way back before becoming a heathen, Jesus was okay with prostitutes and didn’t judge them harshly. He sounded like a pretty chill hippy dude who wasn’t into shaming/condemning everyone.
@Jorts, but what a great group of cities!
Kiddo, Jesus is more complex than that. In the story of the adulterous woman (John 8), he basically put the religious leaders in their place saying that they weren’t holy enough to be judging her; only God the Father can judge. Then, he told her to “go and leave her life of sin”. So he doesn’t give her a wink and turn a blind eye about her adultery, but forgives her and challenges her to live a life that pleases God. It’s a powerful story in that she could have been stoned for what she did (based on the laws of that society) and he saved her life in more ways than one. He really is an awesome dude.
I’d like to smoke a bowl with Jesus. I think we’d have blast searching the web, eating Dorito’s… with Jesus shaking his head at all this fundie mess and saying, “Dude…that’s not how this works. It’s not how any of it works!”
/Christian but more Spiritual
Go away Josh and Duggars.
These types love to blame porn like it’s a gateway drug. He’s a piece of crap, but his crazy, repressed upbringing contributed. Never getting to date normally, never getting to explore at all sexually (except with your sisters–ew), having an arranged marriage to your one and only girlfriend who is either pregnant or getting over being pregnant for the majority of your marriage… total disaster. I’d be more impressed with his apology if he had taken it one step further and apologized for going after the LGBT community and ended it by saying he would no longer speak out about the morality of anything or anyone ever again.
Ted Bundy tried to spin his psychopathy and murder as being the product of porn. NOPE.
When later asked off record, he admitted that was a lie and he did it simply because “he enjoyed it”.
People will blame anything when they refuse to admit or understand that their ‘unwelcome/inexplicable’ drives are within themselves. There are plenty of men who are sexual deviants/predators so he was just put in to an environment where it was all too easy for him to become yet another one. (Jared, Bill Cosby, that sports coach, Priests… I mean… we’ve seen enough to not find this news. It happens, and they are either given or they seek out opportunities to act on their improper desires) I see this as entirely untied to religion. Being a christian doesnt make you less susceptible, it only makes your bible thumping seem more hypocritical. but that again is the family he was born into and what was therefore expected of him— so… what is a deviant to do. Get him away from all women and especially children and get him special, long term rehab with lifelong checkups so he doesnt revert.
Agree with everything you said. His actions have nothing to with religion, they are plenty of men watching porn and cheating who do not believe in God or whatsoever.
Great, stop being so hateful towards others, Duggars, and pay attention to your own house.
Well as adage goes “don’t throw stones in glass houses’.
Sexual repression is a dangerous thing. Josh was probably always going to have these sexual proclivities, but it was just exacerbated by growing up in such a sexually repressive environment.
I don’t get it. If people want to be single why aren’t they single? Why are they married?
Why are they in any kind of a “committed” relationship when they aren’t committed. I don’t get cheating at all.
And this guy- he gives me fur balls.
“I’ve sinned. Now you have to forgive me. All better now…right?”
His entitlement to forgiveness is disgusting. The sad thing is that his wife will probably play along because the bible teaches forgiveness. What she should do is get away from that piece of crap as fast as possible and take her kids with her. Make sure they are safe from their predator father.
By the way: Does Christian fundamentalism allow contraception? Or might we expect some more Duggar offspring born out of wedlock and therefore doomed to going to hell?
Fundamentalism comes in many shades (Duggers are extreme) and while most use birth control there is a minority that feel it’s wrong to step in and stop a conception based on passages of the bible that talk about families being blessed with a “quiverfull of children”.
Growing up fundy, I only knew a few families with 4 kids at most, so that tells me that most people used birth control. It certainly wasn’t prohibited by the church.
I should add that outside of fundamentalist circles there are those who choose to “let God plan their family” but not in a judgy sort of way. They hold an opinion that isn’t black and white in the Bible so they don’t necessarily expect others to do the same.
Not just a hypocrite but a hater and a bigot. What he has said about gay people and gay marriage is despicable.
The thing is with all those rabid bigots screaming about gay people and against gay marriage. The loudest complainers somehow always seem to be caught in some gay sex scandal ( public washroom, profiles on gay hook up sites, etc) I would not be surprised if that happens in this case.
Because they condemn what the h3te about themselves or what they fear they could be. At some point our true selves – good or bad – always come to light.
This.
The parents have spoken:
Their hearts are broken.
They are more upset about him cheating than about his “little mistake.”
Wait, I thought this was about cheating. Is he coming clean about the porn ahead of another exposure of his pecadillos?
This man needs to step away from his family and his nutty religion and go into therapy for sexual dysfunction. Someone needs to tell him about healthy relationships. Praying about it is not going to help.
That’s what I thought – preemptive PR. The Duggar family is the gift that keeps giving and i think it still has some more ‘give’ left in it.
I remember so clearly this time last year, when people were predicting one of the Duggar Kids would blow and expose them. I think at that point many hoped one of the kids might voluntarily come out as gay.
Fast forward to this year and O M G. Jesus judeah of Nazareth, no one would have predicted THIS turn of events.
Oh you’re right LAK. I kept expecting one of the girls to realize there was a world outside childbearing and make a run for it. NEVER would have expected this.
I feel terribly sorry for his wife. She has been brainwashed into accepting the molesting, and now the cheating, and probably blames herself.
Good point. Maybe he knows Jared or some other weird thing I really don’t want to find out about.
So he let his sisters and parents do interviews defending him as a changed person than the “boy” who violated them.He let his wife release statement about how she knew about his past.Did she know about his current indiscretions?
Oh, I think he is definitely admitting that he had sex with someone else by saying what he said. The fact that he wants everyone to believe that looking at porn made him cheat, though, is laughable. He kind of buried the lead though, didn’t he?
It was actually a good PR move on his part, to say he was such a hypocrite. I fear though that this is going to lead to the Josh Duggar Rehab and Revival Tour in a year or two. Counseled and forgiven by his wife and his god, he is a better, changed, stronger man. Looking for a job or a vote or another TV show. Ugh. You know it’s going to happen.
And LOL at People Mag. Oops. That cover “Life After Scandal” was a bit premature, eh?
His parents put out a statement asking for prayers for Josh, his wife and kids.
Why? Why should anybody pray for him? Wasn’t this account up until just a few months ago near the time of the stories coming out about the hacking?
When has he ever stopped doing what he does unless he got caught or feared to get caught? Even when he’s caught, he makes excuses for what he’s done, and so do his parents.
I haven’t seen anything in which he actually stopped himself based on his accepting that he’s completely at fault. He chooses not to have any self-control.
Mr. and Mrs. Enablers (his parents) have done their best to make his actions seem as light as possible because he’s their golden child and made most of his victims (their daughters) believe that he has to be protected too.
I can’t pray for someone who thinks he’s not as bad as he really is. ‘Bad’ to him is something he thinks is OK so long as he can get away with it. People like him never reform themselves. They just get better at not being caught, that’s all.
I’d be surprised if he actually went ahead and met with someone offline. The guy seems so sexually repressed, the very thought of cheating was probably enough to give him an illicit thrill.
Hope he isn’t about to join Subway Jarrod…
Instead of blaming porn (and what he really means is the “sluts” who make porn), he should blame his parents who never helped me develop healthy views on sex and sexuality. Josh is absolutely to blame for his own actions, but I also think this is what happens when all sex is demonized equally. When consensual sex outside of marriage is considered to be just as sinful as infidelity, as molestation, etc, monsters like Josh Duggar are made.
Yep. Those wicked, wicked, immoral women. The devil’s temptress.
And yep to the parents comment, too. Garbage in, garbage out.
You know, I have days when I have a lot of doubt about God.
This is not one of those days!
I’m sort of convinced that only a divine being with an absolutely biting sense of humor and sense of fairplay could engineer a downfall this perfect. That one of the most sanctimonious hypocrites operating today could be exposed both as a child molester and a cheating scoundrel in such a short period of time!
God bless the Ashley Madison hackers, surely they have done the Lord’s work here. If nothing else comes out of the hack, this is enough. Josh Duggar and his family have done more to defame Christianity in America and besmirch all the Christians who actually take Jesus seriously and all of us who try to spend our lives reversing the damage the Duggars have done. Maybe now, finally, they will go away (we can pray). And I know it’s sort of wrong to delight in the suffering of another person, but I can’t help but feel a sense of happiness over this, that finally, maybe some cosmic justice is coming due. Truly, this is a wonderful day to be alive.
Amen!
Yaaas!!! Is like Jehovah up above is getting together with Andy Cohen and writing this ish…
This slow one-two slide into obscurity for the Duggars is so juicily entertaining and just! So well-deserved. And like father like son…I wanna know what Jim-Bob has been up to…where is the Enquirer when you need them. I only pity the little children and that poor wife of his.
If TLC opens their cheque book and even tries to squeeze an “I am repentant interview” out of this I may just slip on my vomit and stay down on my knees and pray for TLC to become bankrupt.
I’m hoping that idiot “patriarch” Jim Bob has an account as well.
I’m hoping that his idiot wife Squirrel has an account.
As others up thread have said the wording is deliberately vague – does looking at porn mean trolling around on dating/adultery sites or actual porn that prompted him to stick his wick elsewhere?
At least he admitted to it all and to cheating. I wonder how the other woman/women must feel now – knowing that she/they shagged at peado! Either that or it was hookers who are prob now going to be shopping around for a tell all story deal. There’s more to this story.
Being that Josh Duggar is an admitted child molester and he has a “porn addiction”, shouldn’t the FBI be looking at his computer? I mean, what are the odds he looks at child porn? Grossest family ever.
This is the issue I take with people who are so vocal about their “faith”. They suggest an air of superiority as if religion and faith protect them from sin. Obviously, that is a huge lie.
I don’t trust people who are extremely “faith vocal” – and I say that as a Christian. Jesus taught that if you lived a Christian life full of charity and good works and service, you will not have any need to profess your faith in words – your actions will speak louder and people will recognize your faith through your charity and treatment of others. Jesus taught that charitable giving should be done anonymously and that prayer should be private and silent – but you wouldn’t know that today. That’s a clear indicator that the Duggars were never really in it to actually lead a Christ-like life. They were in it for the superiority complex that comes from being able to act “better” than anyone else.
Yes! A person’s walk (how they treat others, etc.) says a lot more than their talk.
And today’s world seems to have forgotten the teachings about keeping prayers and giving private instead of seeking attention for it.
I hope the FBI does look at his computer! Thought the same thing.
His statement has been edited to remove the porn reference:
The original statement contained the phrase, “While espousing faith and family values, I have secretly over the last several years been viewing pornography on the internet and this became a secret addiction and I became unfaithful to my wife,” while the amended version contains a much shorter replacement: “While espousing faith and family values, I have been unfaithful to my wife.”
Yep. The statement has been edited twice. First to remove the “Satan” reference and now to remove the “p*rn” reference.
I guess the Duggars read Celebitchy.
Interesting.
This isn’t over yet. Whoever he met/hooked up with through the site is going to come forward, get her (?) payday. It’ll be like Tiger Woods’ mistresses.
It’s gonna be EPIC.
I’m curious – did any of these women not realize it was Josh Duggar they were involved with? I get that he’s not super-well known, but he is a public figure and if you’ve ever casually stumbled upon TLC, you’ve probably caught a whiff of the show at least once. Did they know? I can’t imagine going through with a hookup if my date turned out to be Josh Duggar. That makes me think that he was involved with a woman/women who come from a similar background as him – they would have as much to lose (if not more) than he would by breaking their silence.
Maybe or maybe not. The entire theme of the site is for BOTH parties to want secret infidelity.
If she’s married to someone else, she’ll probably never talk.
It would be epic if the side piece is pregnant. He may have stopped going onto AM as of last May, but who says he’s no longer in touch with the women?
“The last few years, while publicly stating I was fighting against immorality in our country, I was hiding my own personal failings.” Once is an event, twice is coincidence and thrice is a pattern! Haven’t we seen this before?
So it’s a new and improved confession? Confession v2.0?
Looks like both his statement and his conscience have been edited and revised. No doubt at Dad’s urging.
Nothing here is the least bit surprising.
It kind of pisses me off that he’s trying to hide behind a porn addiction. There’s always some bullsh-t excuse or scapegoat. His sisters had to lock their doors and not wear “revealing” clothing because it was their fault he wanted to molest them. Now it’s a porn addiction so he’s a victim and not just a complete piece of sh-t who made a choice to seek an outlet to cheat on his wife.
It’s really useless to even feel any anger because people like him will still continue to act this way and be supported by others. I looked on his Facebook page and it is full of people leaving comments saying things like, “stay strong! You’re not the only people to have to go through this, you can get through it” “Josh is just under so much stress” and “we’ll keep you in our prayers.”
It’s just so funny to me that poor people are pathetic losers who need to get jobs, gay people are ruining the sanctity of marriage….but as long as you run around clutching a bible and judging others, everything you do is perfectly fine and forgiven.
I agree. “Hiding behind” is the perfect description of what he’s trying to do.
He’s copping to the porn addiction because there is more to come. Known child molester says he has a porn addiction. I hope the FBI is watching.
Interesting how quickly he issued a statement (I know, it’s someone else, but it’s attributed to him).
There are a lot more words and contrition attempts here than there was during the molestation allegations coming to light.
Sly, isn’t he? Makes it all about porn addiction in his confession and tosses in as an aside at the end I’ve been unfaithful. This way he never has to address being on that site trolling for women to hook up with and his affairs.
Jim Bob is going to blame this on the internet. He’s going to use the internet is evil and pornography is everywhere luring our innocents into sin.
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I would’t be surprised if he has underage porn on there.
Yep, Sir Tim Berners Lee is clearly a disciple of Satan. Who knew!
If Jim Boob blames all the families “troubles” on the internet, he should get rid of his website, facebook and all those other goodies related to the evil internet. Heck invest in a typewriter!
I really hope the authorities are paying attention and are planning a visit to the family – its the kids i fear for. Their father is an admitted peado, porn addict and adulterer, thats not a safe environment for children. These scandals will only make them retreat further into their cult and cut themselves off from mainstream society – those kids need protection now.
I really hope that the next story is that CPS have removed the kids from the family.
So am I the only one wondering if its child p0rn??
I feel badly for the wife. She does seem like a bright lady to begin with. Add no discernable or marketable skills, 4 small kids and a lot of pressure to stay with this guy….
If it was he’d have been arrested by now.
Jill and her husband are so glad they are out of the country right now.
You all are going to hate me.
I became a Christian 25 years ago when I read the bible. I still am a Christian. This was not a decision I made lightly. I did investigate atheism, wiitchcraft and other religions. My parents & most of my friends are athiests or otherwise. Jesus being God’s son, dying for my sins, still makes the most sense to me. And I am a very logical person.
Anyway during my time as a Christian, I have seen my share of Duggar families. They seem to be the epitome of Christianity. Everyone Christian wants to be part of it. Anna therefor probably thought she had hit the jackpot, marrying Josh. And now she is stuck with him.
I realise most of you reading this, probably don’t like Christianity. And with the Duggar family or history of violent crusades (not unlike ISis in a way), etc, I don’t blame you. But again read the bible. Jesus is the most kind, forgiving, loving person ever.
The statement has been edited and interestingly, the porn part has been removed
http://gawker.com/josh-duggars-apology-i-have-been-the-biggest-hypocrit-1725405629
Jeez didn’t he have someone proof it – all the editing makes it even worse.
I am making very broad statements here. Statements that don’t even nearly answer all the questions about Jesus. I realise that.
Glad it works for you, but I’m gonna pass.
I do not hate Christianity. And, I will certainly teach some doctrines to my child. But I hate the hypocrisy it breeds and I hate the Duggars. Yah, I said it. I’ma go one further and tell them what my hallelujah fundie aunt is always saying: Duggars, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus! Seriously, disappear for a while, and then another while…to infinity.. .parasites, sucking the face off of decency and humanity.
Religion isn’t for me but if it’s something you find comfort in who am i to judge.
Am I missing something? This isn’t about Christianity as a religion. This is about Josh Duggar. No idea why you would assume that most CB readers don’t like Christianity. I’m Catholic. Not exactly ‘christian enough’ for many other ‘christians’ but I cannot stand JD and the whole cult they belong to. The cult here being the Quiverfull movement and all that it stands for.
You are lumping the Duggars into being Christians like they are the norm. They aren’t.
Fundamentalist Christians like the Duggars are almost cults and have nothing to do with regular Christianity, like Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians, Catholics.
The Duggars and their ilk are their own little cult. Girls aren’t even allowed to wear slacks or bathing suits or date alone or go to college. Women are supposed to keep popping out babies until they cant and create an army of fundies to bring the country to ultra conservatism. You can’t show displeasure or unhappiness. You must keep a pleasant modulated tone (Ever listen to Michelle talk) and countenance at all times. This is in their doctrine.
The interesting thing about Jesus that gets lost in these terrible examples of Christianity like the Duggers is that his words and actions gave an incredible amount of dignity to women in a time when they were mere property of a man. Whether you believe any of the stories about him to be true, the stories, if you know the cultural context at the time, demonstrate that he held women in high esteem.
I’ve found it’s much better to look at Jesus than any of his confessed followers that are featured in the mainstream media. He’s the only one that I can respect. The good examples of Christians don’t ever get mainstream coverage, unfortunately. We only get to see the Duggers, Westboro et all — those who live very differently than what Jesus actually taught.
@NUTBALLS – “The interesting thing about Jesus that gets lost in these terrible examples of Christianity like the Duggers is that his words and actions gave an incredible amount of dignity to women in a time when they were mere property of a man.”
This, x1000 to your entire post! And there’s the fact that the Western bible is the only religious text that portrays Mary Magdalene as a prostitute…. in all other religious texts she is described as Jesus’ wife. How’s that for disturbing? Completely agree with you about just looking to Jesus himself instead of his followers, and this is why I consider myself a spiritual person and I choose not to follow an organized religion.There is no such thing as any religion that hasn’t been tampered with by so called “religious leaders” who’ve added their own prejudices and biases to it.
If someone is a true Christian, follower of Christ, they should be less judgmental, not more judgmental, in theory. But that isn’t the case these days for far too many Christians.
Daria: You’re mistaken. No Bible states that Mary Magdelene was a prostitute. Pope Gregory put forth that assertion in the Middle Ages. Read any Bible and you will find that it only makes reference to “a woman found in adultery.”
Just clarifying your error there.
Jayna, I can tell you that for every “Dugger” that I hear about, I personally know at least 10 positive examples of a Christ-follower. The good ones are out there, but not usually making headlines.
@Sam, Thanks for the clarification about that!
@Jessiebes, no one hates Christians or Christianity. We all seem to be on the same page about disliking terrible people who hide behind calling themselves “Christians.” You mentioned the Crusades (which were CATHOLIC by the way–not 100% the same thing as being Christian) being like ISIS, so I’ll use Islam as an example to make my point; there are some Muslim extremists who are hateful, awful people and try to hide behind the Quran and Islam as an excuse for their terrible behavior…people like the Duggars are Christian extremists. They are absolutely hateful toward anyone who doesn’t agree with them or believe in what they believe in. You’re right, Jesus Christ was a kind, charitable, nonjudgmental, and loving person…but there are LEGIONS of people in this world who subscribe to a hateful, disgusting school of thought that is NOT Christ-like in any way, shape or form and they refer to themselves as “Christians.” You are mistaken if you believe for a second that Jesus Christ would have acted so hatefully toward homosexuals or women who’ve had abortions. These are hateful, judgmental behaviors that MAN has instilled in Christianity and even Catholicism. The bible itself can attest to that.
I think I speak for most when I say that we don’t have a problem with Christians who act the way the religion is supposed to be, but we certainly have no tolerance for hateful people who are basically wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are not Christians, they are just bad people who think all their terrible actions are forgiven as long as they claim they’re doing things in the name of Jesus Christ. It is not the same.
@Jessiebies,
As a Catholic, I consider myself Christian so, no, I don’t hate Christians because to do so would be self-hatred. However, there are some very non-Christian “Christians” like the Duggars who claim that Catholics aren’t Christians. I have problems with my own Church’s position on some issues and I do discuss those concerns within the Church. But no, I have no room to tolerate the Duggars and their brand of “Christianity” for it embraces bigotry and hatred.
Most men satisfy their porn addiction by subscribing to an adult channel or buying Playboy. What’s with the mail order prostitute, Joshie?
Ben Affleck is so thankful this story broke.
Truer words may not have been spoken today.
He is so full of shit. No one joins a cheating site for married people looking to cheat, if you are into pornography. Wtf that doesn’t even make any sense! Porn is free on the net. And if he did have to pay to access better porn, he would have paid for what of those paysite porn sites. A cheating site does not have porn.
Hahahahaha….what a looser. I’m really enjoying this Ashley Madison mess and the Duggars’ downfall. It’s about time. The worst people are the ones that flaunt their religion and try to force their beliefs on others.
I have an addiction. I am addicted to A GOOD SCANDAL. I just love it. It feeds my my additive conscious and I love when the hypocriptics are out. Is something wrong with me?
No, we all love a good scandal. But at some point, it crosses over from scandal to total public destruction of a person. It is too much for me, but I appear to be alone. So something is obviously wrong with me.
You aren’t alone, SillySimone. He has behaved appallingly, from the molestation to the cheating, but to watch ‘the total destruction of a person’ is something I don’t enjoy either. There is nothing wrong with you at all.
I hope this guy is on suicide watch – he is still the father of four young children.
He may be the molester of his four young children as well. His children need to be protected from him!
He’s a known pedophile. Pedophiles can’t be cured. Most don’t stop harming children if they don’t get the help they need.
He’s also an apparent adulterer. Cheating on your wife is morally wrong, especially in light of his wanting to deny same-sex couples the ability to marry.
The only reason he wasn’t in jail for his crimes is because his parents protected him and let the statute of limitations run out. If states were more modern, there would be no limitation, and he could be tried today for what he did to his sisters and babysitter. If he were in jail, he wouldn’t be able to troll AM to look for other women to have sex with.
He’s a disgusting sub-human, and I am hopeful that the FBI and authorities won’t take either of your stances, SillySimone and Adele Dazeem, to just brush all of this under the rug. His computer needs to be seized and checked for child porn ASAP.
ok, now we need a tv show about the sex addiction therapy !
no we don’t.
“It wasn’t my fault – porn! And Satan! They made me do it!”
He needs to shut up.
In the immortal words of Cait:
Jesus H. Tebow on a Crouton!
The edited statements also removed the reference to his ‘slips’ when he was a teenager,
The part that read :
“I brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions that happened when I was 14-15 years old, and now I have re-broken their trust.”
now reads:
“I have brought hurt and a reproach to my family, close friends and the fans of our show with my actions.”
Just in case there’s someone left in the US who didn’t know about his child-molesting days, they don’t want to spill the beans!
But seriously–who releases statements and then edits them ON THE INTERNET??!!
Screencaps, yass? Screen caps for miles.
He most likely removed that part because he’s claiming he was only 14-15 years old, when in reality, he was up to 17 years old.
He would be caught in even more lies.
But yes, you’re probably correct that they knew the statement would be picked up, and they didn’t want to let the people who don’t know that he molested children realize what he is.
I am probably going to be the only dissenting voice on this issue. These are age appropriate women. I am not defending him or his cheating. But I have a hard time being part of the mob enjoying such a public humiliation. Sure the guy is an arrogant jerk. But he is also an ignorant person. This is not some random hate monger we have found on the street. We saw live and in living color just how dysfunctional his home was. Anyone and everyone saw this coming from miles away.
His parents gave him no options whatsoever. If he thought about sex, it was a sin. If he masturbated, it was a sin. If he had sex, it was a sin. Everything a teenage boy’s body does is unnatural to these people and so he learned to hate his own sexuality and see it as evil. They locked him up from the world: no TV, no music, no female friends.
Low and behold, puberty hits and he targets his sisters. How then do the parents handle it? They lock up all of the girls at night. So he starts targeting them during the day. How do the parents handle that? They don’t allow brothers and sisters to be in the same room alone. Pray and pray and just know that you are a sinner. They marry him off to the first girl they can find and she starts popping out kids. Like having a wife will make years of repression and self loathing and ignorance suddenly go away.
How does a young man recover from this? How does a man suddenly become a good husband after this? Anna stood no chance and neither did he.
I don’t like Josh Duggar nor the cult he belongs to. I despise what he did to his sisters. I think all of the children should have been removed from the home and gotten counseling. I think he is ignorant about LGBT issues and only spouts what he was taught because the bible is the only truth he is allowed to acknowledge.
So for all of his spouting off about gays destroying children and so forth, the public shaming was justified. But now he is a grown man, with the same issues that were never resolved, and he is trying to explore his sexuality with age appropriate partners. Should he be apologizing to me or you for this? He should be on his hands and knees begging his wife for forgiveness. But the rest of us have no business in this discussion. The public shaming is enough. His wife is a victim. His kids are victims. His sisters and brothers are victims. He is a victim. The people who need to be doing the most apologizing are the parents.
IMHO, Josh should get a divorce because he clearly does not want to be with Anna. He should use the opportunity to move away from this garbage and educate himself on everything he has been unable to learn about while in this cult. Then perhaps, after some time, he can find an age appropriate partner and some peace and happiness.
As for Anna, I say, run girl. She needs to grab the kids and run to her other sister’s house. She too needs to escape before she forced to have any more children with a man who clearly does not love or respect her and who has serious issues around sexuality. Then in time, I think she can also find someone who will bring her peace.
But enough is enough. How much bullying is enough before justice is delivered? I really dislike mob justice and concern trolling. I dislike so publicly devouring a family, I don’t care who they are. And really, the way the general public is reacting (enjoying this so much, despite the pain for those involved) is no different than fundies celebrating the destruction of the so called sinners.
We got our scalp, our pound of flesh. Let’s move on.
(feel free to hate me).
No hate. In the larger scheme of things, you’re probably right. I don’t intend to keep dancing about his downfall because at a certain point I don’t want to contribute (via an Internet mob) to someone’s destruction. But this story just broke yesterday afternoon, and it is still unfolding with even more accounts seemingly connected to him being revealed. Gay and trans people commit suicide because of the hate they hear and experience. Josh is (or was) a professional hater who even now hasn’t apologized for going after these folks. This family is politically active in regard to anti-LGBT legislation, smearing others with lies about them being dangerous. So for today (and maybe tomorrow), I admit that I am really enjoying the comeuppance that’s happening. I won’t stay in this mood, but for today…YAAASSSSSSSSS!
I love you, SillySimone. I’m proud of your heart and your capacity for compassion and understanding.
This. Everything you have said. This. I hate what he did (and the beliefs he stood for) but I cannot enjoy this take-down. The man is destroyed. The family is destroyed. Are we happy now?
(feel free to hate me too, I don’t care).
+1
I admire your courage to write what you did. You have good heart, SillySimone.
@SillySimone
I don’t hate you, let me assure you. But you’re missing the point: The reason people are coming down like a ton of bricks on Josh is because he spends his days preaching intolerance. I’d go so far as to say that he incites hatred against people who don’t share his beliefs.
He’s a child molester who has never truly apologized to his victims — which include four of his sisters — or sought treatment, which is a big deal considering he’s the father of small children. He’s made a career of judging people for their life choices, including spouting off about how gays have destroyed the sanctity of marriage.
I love the fact that you want to see the best in people, but please do some research on Josh Duggar because all the evidence points to him being a vile piece of trash.
I wanted to hate every single word that you typed, but I don’t. You have such a valid point of view on this mess, that it actually makes me feel sympathy toward Josh. My disdain for Jim Bob, however, is completely unwaivering. That POS has seriously f.cked up a LOT of people, Michelle and their herd included.
@LaLa
I guess you haven’t seen the following, because I cannot think of anyone less deserving of sympathy:
http://gawker.com/is-this-josh-duggars-okcupid-profile-1725202825
In the comments section, there’s a screenshot of a yes/no question on the OkCupid profile: “Do you feel that there are any circumstances in which a person is obligated to have sex with you?” Josh’s answer? YES.
@Silly– you wrote “I think he is ignorant about LGBT issues and only spouts what he was taught because the bible is the only truth he is allowed to acknowledge.” I’m not sure the bible is the source of his willful and cruel ignorance (as well as hate and righteousness) towards his fellow man/woman/child.
It’s interesting how he doesn’t appear to be concerned for his personal security.
Translation: “I’m sorry I got caught”
Jim Bob and Michelle probably aren’t speaking to him right now, furious their empire really is over. He has no way to support a wife and four children under the age of five. He’s 27 years old and his world is crashing down around him in a very humiliating way.
I honestly worry he might commit suicide in the thick of this. I hope that he gets “real professional help,” not the come to Jesus help from their church. If he’s on adult cheating sites, at least it shows he’s into women to cheat with, not underage girls. There is hope for him, but he needs to get away from the fundie teachings and get a qualified psychiatrist/psychologist to help him sort through his many issues. Sadly, that’s not going to happen, is it? Jim Bob will never allow him to do that. He is literally trapped with nowhere to go.
Yep, I thought about the suicide risk too. Not just for him, but for Anna as well.
Yep, I immediately thought suicide watch for Josh (and Anna). I hope that once everyone gets over the schadenfreude of it all, that some smart, intelligent professionals will gather around this family and offer to help them and that the general public would support it. There are four young children to think about. He obviously has deep-rooted sexual issues that need addressing, for his safety and those around him. This is a great opportunity to show ourselves that, as human beings we are not, in fact, a howling mob with pitchforks. We can show compassion even when Josh has not. It won’t mean we condone what he has done (the molestation, the cheating).
Yes I agree!!! Fighting hate with even more hate destroys everything and everyone involved. Those of us who wanted to see these girls get help and get out of this cult have won nothing in this battle. If anything, the public has shamed and subjected these young women to even more abuse. I read through their Instagram comments, and I cannot understand how they are holding it together. I urge everyone to go read through those comments, starting in May and then tell if any good has come from this war on hate. Because all I see is casualties on all sides:(
Radar Online says the same email address used to sign up for one of his Ashley Madison accounts was used to create a Facebook account in which local strippers and lingerie models were friend’ed and followed.
So how come he’s not admitted to this or does he again think he’s not done anything wrong until he’s caught?
Ok, now it is starting to sound like a serious addiction. He had a full time job, church, 3 kids, a wife, and all sorts of family visiting all of the time. He had to have given up sleep to have this many accounts on this many sites.
AYes and those women he friended on Facebook all look like teenagers.
@ SillySimone
He no longer has a job and his wife deals with the kids and house work and entertaining his family so he has loads of time to visit these sites and keep track of his accounts.
“…and most of all Jesus and all those who profess faith in Him.”… Clearly his family is also an afterthought. The priorities of these religious nutters are insane.
I don’t know. Josh had to have a reason and opportunity to watch porn in the first place – he didn’t go to college, so he can’t really blame it on his wild college friend.
I once heard the analogy that raising children is like holding a spring. You have to slowly release the pressure on the spring, little by little, until it’s completely free. If you suddenly release it after holding it down, it’s going to go pinging off all over the place.
With kids, you have to give them a little freedom, then a little more, then a little more until they’re able to take care of themselves. You can’t tell them every move to make until their wedding and then say, “You’re on your own,” and expect them to have developed self-control.
I tend to agree, but plenty of teenagers don’t have sex and still don’t molest their siblings.
I really REALLY hope that this is a wake-up call to TLC to curtail and completely revise their programming standards. For too long now they’ve been showcasing the most venal, stupid, shocking and worthless genre of low-life TV imaginable and yet still have the nerve to call themselves The Learning Channel.
You’re not a porn addict, stop trying to medicalise it. Your a dirty old hypocrite child molester
It’s like wreckage I can’t look away from. These people just really get under my nails, and I can’t scrape them off. They have irritated and upset me for several years now.
In the beginning, I really tried to defend them (years ago) because I know some large families (4-6 kids) who get side eye, but they are fully functional and loving and normal. So I kind of defended against the “your vagina is not a clown car” commentary.
But then I watched the show a couple of times. And then I read some of the stuff they use in that “church.” And then they went all batsh– about gay marriage being equal to child molestation. And then it comes out that Josh liked to touch little girls when he was in high school.
So. Yeah. I’m done with these perverts, and they make me so angry. It just doesn’t end with these creeps.
I think they took out the reference to porn because he probably has child port on his computer and that was a ready admission that can be used against him.
I wondered if that was a possibility, also. But if the Radaronline info is correct, and he has a Facebook account where he’s friended strippers and lingerie models, I would say add that to the adult cheating site, and it looks like he’s really into developed females, not prepubescent children.
@Jayna
I hope you’re right, but I’d be more comfortable if they confiscated his computer to confirm that because I have the sinking feeling that he still likes them young but has maybe been too afraid to pursue his desires outside of his family circle. Which makes me quite concerned for his daughters, frankly.
Wow! I will never understand how all these people in the public eye think they can get away with doing scandalous things. It always comes back to haunt them at some point. This guy has destroyed not only his life but several in his immediate family. Unless he is a sociopath he has to be feeling the weight of that. He’s definitely a case in need of a diagnosis!
Well, narcissists tend to not worry too much about the consequences of their actions.
I don’t think it’s fair to call him a child molester for his environment created sexual inappropriateness when he was an extremely stunted, isolated, immature teenager. Parents should not be allowed to raise their kids in ignorance, repression, isolation and fear, he was entirely a product of selfish, abusive, controlling, manipulative adults and is a victim of them as much as his sisters were of him and them.
His adult behaviour shows that he’s into adult females and the problem he has is that he is extremely messed up from his upbringing. Until he realises how warped his parents cult is and rejects that in favour of education and reality he will always be sneaking around in the shadows trying to satisfy his repressed sexual urges. He is a hypocrite but he’s also a victim of religious nuts, I hope he breaks free of that lunacy and learns to provide a healthy environment for his daughters. He could be a great advocate against this abusive cult and the damage it causes, if only he could recognise and find healing for himself first.
He is a child molester he molester a child as young as 6 it does not matter what his involvement he grow up in that does not exempt him from his crimes or label.
If a guy beat his wife just because he witnessed his mother being abused as a child and didn’t beat his ex-girlfriend does not mean he is not a wife beater.
Forgot to add that he molested not 1, not 2, not 3, but 5 under age girls and it wasn’t a one time thing.
Please stop minimizing his crimes and taking away his responsibility for his own actions. He was not 6, but 15 and knew what he was doing was wrong.
He did that when he was a teenager, an extremely educationally deficient, emotionally immature and socially stunted boy who due to his cult upbringing had the maturity of a child many years younger. It’s not fair to demonise kids for dysfunctional behaviours their parents created. It’s important to understand so that the dysfunction can be tackled and dealt with.
Unfortunately in this case he will be surrounded by idiots telling him it’s all a liberal conspiracy and that Satan is luring him. I hope he finds a way out so that he can forge a new direction for his family and raise awareness of the huge psychological damage created by raising children in such a repressive, manipulative, abusive household.
Any person raised in an abusive home needs to learn non abusive, healthy behaviours, most people do not magically know how to behave differently from how they were raised, they need to learn. By the time someone is committing extreme violence, they will need to be imprisoned for the safety of others. It should never get that far and it rarely would if children were not allowed to fester at the mercy of abusive parents and there were proper educational therapies in place for inappropriate behaviour while that behaviour is still at the lower end of the scale and treatable.
Excuses excuses excuses that’s all I see when reading you comments.
Now what’s not fair is that he has f^ck up those 5 girls for life and that people like you want to minimize that.
He’s a CHILD MOLESTER
The age of consent is 16 years old in a lot of states and he was molesting his sisters and babysitter up until he was age 17 Many states let people as young as 12 years old be tried as adults if they murder others.
I don’t care how his home life was because he is a functioning person and knew right from wrong, and he willingly kept molesting young children for years after he was caught.
I was emotionally and physically abused since birth and when I was a young child, I knew that it was wrong – so much so that I wanted to go live with my aunt and uncle or wanted to be an orphan. It didn’t take me being an adult to know that what I was suffering was horrible and should be stopped. He knew exactly what he was doing.
Josh Duggar is a child molester.
@Jas
“I don’t think it’s fair to call him a child molester”
I just about fell out my chair when I read your comment. Talk about sugar-coating reality.
It’s on the record that Josh Duggar MOLESTED five CHILDREN, four of them his sisters. That makes Josh Duggar a CHILD MOLESTER.
And those are only the victims we know about; it’s entirely possible that there are others.
You know what’s not fair? A pedophile living under the same roof as his young daughters. After all, his family has proven they cannot be trusted to protect them from harm.
well, well, well.
I couldn’t resist going onto the Duggar website and copying this from JoshCrisisIntervention1:
‘With God’s grace and help Josh, our daughters and our entire family overcame a terrible situation, found healing and a way forward. We are so pleased with the wonderful adults they have all become’.
“wonderful adults’. Not quite the words the rest of the world is using. I think the only fitting punishment is for Jim Bob and Michelle to …… remove the ‘J’ from Josh’s name. From now on, he shall be ‘Osh Duggar’. The only Duggar without a ‘J’.
What other kind of punishment could they dole out?
😉
Be a cheater and a hypocrite, fine. But I am so very sickened by the abuse of power when it comes to sex that is so prevalent now. Jared-just so disgusted by this foul person and his abuse of power and seemingly untouchable attitude. Josh-I don’t want to hear excuses that he got a warped perception of sex because he grew up in a stifled environment-as an adult, if you know you may have an issue with sex, ESPECIALLY since you have kids-FIX IT by asking for HELP! We see stories weekly about teachers, male and female, having sex with students-they are KIDS and you don’t have sex with them!! Our society must figure this out-we will continue to churn out new generations of victims that have to deal with pain and struggle to overcome this and could then become abusers themselves.
My personal opinion, no one is teaching values and right/wrong. Obviously tough laws but that doesn’t fix the root problem. Some say religion is the answer but it is not always (Josh), you can’t tell parents how to parent (many of them may not have been taught these values)…how? I think values should be taught in schools, but then how do you decide what to teach? Our society needs to figure this out!
Can you imagine how hard it would be to ask for help? Imagine how embarrassed a person in his position would feel, how ashamed, how guilty, how low and dirty and evil? He probably didn’t want to admit it to himself, let alone anyone else. And he’d have good reason to be afraid- look at the overwhelming majority of people here that could not extend empathy or forgiveness or prevent themselves from condemning him- there’s not many places in society for a person who has inappropriate sexual attractions towards children to go to for help. He was probably scared. He wasn’t much older than a kid, himself, at the time. The church would be the first place to start for a lot of people. No wonder he sought the forgiveness of his deity. And by all accounts, this was addressed with his parents (he was a TEENAGER at the time) and THEY did nothing to get him help. It was their responsibility.
He obviously still has issues with sex and he is an adult. As an adult, if he knew that he still had issues, after going through what I’m sure was shame, fear, and embarrassment as a teen, he absolutely should have gotten help by going to a counselor or something to deal with the problem. He has children, with a history of abusing children, and was acting out by looking at porn and having affairs-his first statement that was removed acknowledged that he had issues. His parents own part of the blame for not reacting more strongly when he was a teen but it doesn’t sound likely that he did anything (counseling) as an adult to address the issue.
Yeah but issues with attractions to persons of age and viewing 18years or older porn and wanting to or having extramarital sex with other grown ups isn’t related to his teenage sexual attraction to underage persons.
And look, I’m none too sure about the ins and outs of his particular sect of christian thought but I know that as a catholic (I was raised as one) if one confessed to a porn addiction or extramarital affairs to a priest that the remedy or “help” one would get is being told to say 20 Our Fathers and 30 Hail Marys or whatever and sins are forgiven. So somebody raised in an environment where they’re told that god is the highest authority has ALREADY received help for their issues by confessing their sins to god. Why would it occur to someone indoctrinated in such a manner that they need any other help? They have had the highest form of ‘help’ possible, to the way they’ve been trained to think.
He would never have disclosed this if he hadn’t been outed. We don’t know what he’s doing that he hasn’t yet “confessed”, but given his track record I’m sure he’s still into something.
This is what happens when people are raised with an unhealthy attitude towards sex, lust, and desire. Elizabeth Smart actually talks about this a lot and how damaging the religious focus on purity is, in particular for women.
As much as I detest Josh Duggar, I do think that the majority of his issues are a product of his upbringing. It’s sad.
Of course he is blaming porn. That deflects blame from himself. Oldest trick in the book.
The web has become the new confessional. Post your sins and be forgiven. Oooh, the masses have a new opiate!
Please just make this man go away and contemplate his mortal soul in private. Without a freaking audience. Good behavior counts the most when no one’s looking.
Who cares about Josh Duggar. I am waiting for Jim Bob Duggar to have some evil in his closet. All this disgust CANNOT be just for one Duggar. I would love it if ‘Old Dad’ had an account too. There has got to be some secret hidden trash for the Duggar matriarch too. Hell, he raised the sinner so, I highly doubt the apple falls far from that tree.
I think I remember they initially made some attempt to explain his molestation of the girls when in his teens as due to viewing porn on the Internet. Does anyone else remember that, or do I have it confused with someone else? Anyway- if so, he might have added the bit about porn addiction because that’s the excuse his parents made for his actions earlier.
But he also might have been deflecting from something else. Or maybe it really does apply now, but someone realized he hasn’t been accused of that and so he needed to avoid overconfessing.
Not sure if it’s as likely that he has child porn on his computer – I would think that in such a case, he would not want to indicate anything about any kind of porn to avoid any chance of investigation, since child porn is illegal rather than just embarrassing.
Since he was in his teens at the time of the molestations (a time when the brain is still flexible and developing), it’s possible that it was lack of other opportunities that led him to focus on the younger kids rather than a permanent preference for children. He was in an unusually isolated situation compared to others of the same age, so the fact that a history of abusive activity against children beginning in young adolescence may occur in definite permanent pedophiles may not apply in his case. We don’t know that much about pedophilia at the brain level yet . Maybe his preference as an adult, with other options available to him, is now actually adult women. He obviously is still messed up in sexual matters, though.
Why do I get the feeling that there are still so many more shoes to drop, that it will put Imelda Marcos to shame?
What a clusterwhoops of schadenfreude.
The whole “Da Pr0n made me do it!!!” excuse is bull. Pornography is literally just any entertainment material made with the intent to sexually arouse- whether it’s novels, pictures, videos, etc. Whether we’re male or female, plenty of us are able to consume pornography while still remaining faithful to who we’re with. But for this guy, spinning it with porn as the scapegoat allows him and his delusional family to not only do damage control, but also to continue furthering and validating their ‘Return to Repressive Values” agenda.
I’m not outraged by his affair though. Marital infidelity is wrong, but when reading the details about his Ashley Madison thing, I got this little sense of relief that his preferences were consenting adult women. The fact that he’s molested children makes the cheating with grown women pale in comparison a bit, and his dirty secrets should come out. It still doesn’t erase all that he’s done though. I hope, but doubt, that this will be enough to get his wife to leave with those kids. His children should definitely be taken away from him if they haven’t been already.
I wonder if Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, and fox news types like Megyn Kelly will continue to support him and his parents, since the ‘he was just a teenager’ excuse can’t be used on this. Then again, if child molestation wasn’t enough to drive away his supporters, this probably won’t be enough either.
Smite! Freaking pervert child molester. He’s not sorry he did all that stuff, he’s sorry he got caught. But by all means, blame it all on porn, you uptight, sanctimonious, judgy @sshat. I hope his wife has an epiphany and bails the hell out with those kids while the court of public opinion is still in session.
I’ve never commented on this site before, although I do tend to “lurk,” but it seems like every time I turn around, this fool is admitting to more & more of his hypocritical perversion!
I describe my political leanings as a “Constitutional Conservative.” As a less-than-observant Jew, I do not consider myself to be a “Bible thumper”. But to hear so many (although not all) of these so-called “conservatives” continuing to support him & his family makes me sick!! The whole family makes me sick!! How a parent can turn the victims into sacrificial lambs to save their perverted son is beyond perverse & disgusting, even though I understand their ideology. And to be clear, while I do *understand* it…I don’t *condone* it in any way, shape, or form.
It is not my intention to turn this in to a political debate, (I believe in the 1st Amendment right to free speech, freedom of religion, etc), but hypocrites like this give all Conservatives a HORRIBLE reputation! Actually, they give all human beings a horrible reputation! I obviously can’t speak for all Conservatives, but I can tell you that this Conservative will NEVER vote for ANY candidate that supports this family or excuses their disgusting behavior.
And FTR, I have voted Democrat in the past & will continue to do so if I feel that a particular candidate is more representative of my beliefs, regardless of party affiliation.
There’s nothing hypocritical about admitting that what you’re doing is wrong . You’re a hypocrite only if you attack other people for doing the same things you are. I smoke, but I know it’s bad. I still do it but I will never defend it and I will never admonish other smokers either. I will just point out it’s bad. Does that make a me a hypocrite? Not all.
Speaking of politricks, what Josh did is NOTHING compared to what Slick Willie and his wife have done. Willie is infamous for being accused of rape and of covering up for pervs who were pimping out teenage girls. And let’s not forget the Lewinski scandal. His wife too is infamous for willingly defending rapists and for being a pathological liar.
The only disturbing thing about Josh is the way he sexually harassed his siblings in his teen years. Calling him a child molester is too much since he only groped his “victims” and he was a child himself at the time. But he was obviously disturbed as a kid. But still, that’s nothing compared to the adult actions of Slick Willie.