Shortly after Gawker published their exclusive on Josh Duggar’s two Ashley Madison accounts, Gawker also did an interesting follow-up in which they wondered aloud if Josh had also been using a secret OKCupid account. While the profile photo was not a photo of Josh, everything else seemed to fit, including the “Joesmithsonnwa” handle, which Josh also used for his Ashley Madison account. Funny story: about twelve hours after Gawker published that OKCupid story, that profile was suddenly deleted. Interesting, eh?
Hilariously (or not so much, depending on your level of schadenfreude), it’s looking more and more like Josh also had a secret Facebook account too – the email account Josh used for his Ashley Madison account is also being used for a Facebook profile for “Joe Smithson” who lives in Arkansas. Again, the profile photo is not of Josh (the photo is of a Goldman Sachs executive’s son). But it’s probably Josh. And guess who he’s friended? Oh, just 32 people, mostly young women of the stripper and “lingerie model” variety.
So, yes, this whole thing has gotten messy to the point where there is no coming back. Even the Duggars know there’s no coming back. In the initial reporting of just the Ashley Madison accounts, a source told People Magazine: “It was pretty improbable that there were going to be any specials on any of the Duggars anyway. But now, with this, there’s virtually no chance. It’s basically just over now.” Then after Josh’s admissions, more sources spoke to People about how Jim-Bob and Michelle are handling the news that their first-born child is a lying, cheating, child-molesting adulterer.
Josh Duggar had already been living in relative seclusion with his family before his latest scandal imploded his world even further. Privately, a Duggar family insider tells PEOPLE: “We’re all hunkered down over here. It’s just a mess, it’s a whole mess. We don’t even know what the truth is anymore. It’s insane.”
A second source with ties to the family says the cheating scandal is a devastating blow to the Duggars’ firstborn, who resigned from his post at a right-wing Christian lobbying group in May.
“I would assume he feels like his life is ruined,” says the source. “It will be such a steep and practically impossible climb to come back from this.”
In this week’s PEOPLE cover story, a source who worked closely with the family says that in the wake of the molestation scandal, Jim Bob and Michelle recognized that anytime they were seen publicly with Josh, “a story gets made out of it that rehashes the whole mess. … Maintaining some distance is as much for his own good as it is for theirs.”
Now, with Josh’s confession to his “own personal failings,” the source with ties to the family says, “It’s like he’s a completely different person from who they thought he was. They’re still trying to reconcile all that they know is good about Josh, whom they will always love and adore, with what they’ve learned now.”
I’ve heard stories about Michelle Duggar being in a bubble of right-wing, cult-like hyper-delusion and how she just lets Jim-Bob’s behavior dictate her own. But… my impression of Michelle during their horrible Fox News interview was that she’s wily. She’s deadly when she’s been coached. My guess is that somewhere deep inside, Jim-Bob and Michelle both realize that something is really wrong with Josh, but I don’t know if they’ll realize that the crazy cult-mentality and sheltered existence they’ve given their family hasn’t helped ANY of the children.
In a new People Magazine story (new this morning), People Mag’s Duggar-tastic sources say that Jim-Bob and Michelle are “absolutely stunned” and “this wasn’t something they ever imagined was possible” because, and I sh-t you not, “They so strictly limit their exposure to these sorts of outside influences – from websites to even the sort of television they watch, if they turn on the TV at all – that they were absolutely baffled by how this could have been possible.” It’s like they don’t even realize that their hyper-repressed household is WHY Josh is so screwed up. But no worries, y’all, because sources maintain that the Duggars are “feeling more devout than ever” and “their faith is in no way rocked by this.” Your faith SHOULD be rocked by this. This horrible hypocrisy taken with your son’s repeated and escalated incidents of molestation SHOULD cause you to take a moment, rethink your child-rearing and adjust.
Photos courtesy of Duggars’ social media.
The sad thing is that other religious conservatives will be falling all over themselves to forgive and absolve him of what he’s done and honestly, if they whole family went dark for a few months or a year and TLC came back with a one off special about how they’d spent the whole time praying and asking for forgiveness, they would be right back on top and the show would probably get gargantuan ratings.
Amen….
I don’t know. I think the first time they may have been willing to forgive, but now with this second scandal, I’m not so sure. If anything, I see religious conservatives blaming the Duggars for going “Hollywood”.
Yesterday, I was thinking that the Duggars’ next move may very well be to “banish” Josh. Aren’t fundies into banishment? I don’t even want to think about the psychological mind-eff of that. Josh is already super-twisted because of his parents; if they banish him? Yikes. (I wonder if he is on suicide watch.)
Ladyg:
“suicide watch” . . . that’s exactly my line of thought. I bet Josh is feeling pretty desperate these days. I hope the thought has occurred to his parents or someone in his family. They all seem unacquainted with reality.
Unfortunately they’ll probably start blaming the wife…….isn’t that how it always works in those cases?
Yep. And I’m sure they already are blaming her.
Oh, shite, Katydid20 and Genny, this is exactly what I’ve been thinking, and hoping no one would mention it. As if his wife didn’t have enough to contend with…
I know, I didn’t want to bring it up but deep down I know there’s always some nut that will blame the wife…….
And after all the work they put into repressing and purifying the women for fear they end up tainted….
I’m glad it was Josh that screwed up.
Yep @katydid20…”Moreover, the source said, “Maybe not publicly, ever, but privately, there will be some suggestion of whether or not she should have been more aware of the pressures Josh was under, of the issues he was facing, and how she could have better counseled him or helped him.” –from E online
@grabbyhands, yup! I actually looked @ Josh’s Facebook yesterday and I was disgusted at all of the people saying they’d pray for him and that they shouldn’t feel bad because they’re not the only people to have “these problems.” The worst comments were the ones with people saying that the rest of the world should reserve judgment because none of us know what it’s like to be under the “pressure” Josh is under living in the spotlight.
Their breed of Christianity is a cult. Nothing will waver the support they receive from like-minded people. It’s not genuinely Christianity, it’s hypocrisy with the name “Jesus Christ” thrown into the mix so they can be hateful and judgmental and feel “absolved” of their sins.
The rest of the world should reserve judgment – like they reserve judgment on everyone who has the slightest difference from them. Ugh, these people make me ill.
Perfectly stated. Esp, the last part of your comment.
daddy dugar probably high fiving his son behind closed doors..does child protective services look in on children of incest dad?
Good riddance to these freaks…………….
I wonder when the family learned about his Ashley Madison profile. I mean, the hack happened a few weeks ago and everyone knew it was a matter of time before it would all be released but I’m wondering if he kept his mouth shut until it was released.
He PRAYED it would never see the light of day. And excuse me, but cheating and pr0n is what’s got their goats? Not the perpetual molestation? That could blow over, but this? THIS?!?!! This is what’s wrong with the world we live in.
No. It’s what’s wrong with the world THEY live in.
The cheating, looking at porn and the molestation of even the youngest are all the same sin according to their beliefs. You should check it out. They even have pie charts on it. Same exact level of sin. Sin is sin, to them.
I can believe that he hoped nothing would be traced back to him. Perhaps naive about the lack of privacy today. So they probably didn’t know about it until when they said.
The children have virtually no access to anything from the real world – just cult-approved brainwashing materials and videos. Perv and his wife will lock it down even more so their kids can’t read about their father online someday. Generations of illiterate sequestered unskilled oppressed women/babymakers/servants. Way to go, sex-obsessed grifters.
I think Dimbulb and Michelle found out like everyone else – when Gawker blew it up. Josh was probably just praying it wouldn’t come out. And here we are.
I feel like this revelation that Josh is an adulterer has largely been treated like it’s so much worse than the revelation that he molested children, and that gives me a sick feeling. Ben Afleck is an adulterer too. It happens all the time. And yet it’s almost like, oh he molested children? Let’s take six months to decide whether not to cancel his show. Oh, but he cheated on his wife?! OH THAT DOES IT. No coming back. Funny how we only care about the wife when she’s part of a sacandal that can be used to distract from the fact that he’s a pedophile.
yes!
im glad to see them taken down by any means possible, but so many people swept that under the rug as underaged curiosity and other vomit inducing terms
I wrote my response above before I saw this. Yes to all of it.
yup…as has been stated so many times by so many on here…
…their priorities are ROYALLY F-ed up.
YES!!!! I have been saying this, too. It makes me feel so gross.
Shambles, I agree, and I think it is because of this: we can’t revel in the glory that this loser is a kid-toucher. It’s sick, sad for his victims, and really a huge problem that deserves thoughtful addressing (especially when it comes to victims, law inforcement, and Hiding behind “faith”). HOWEVER, when this fundie a-hole is an adulterer AND he’s an idiot about it, we can celebrate his hipocracy and stupid choices. I believe that’s why these incidences are treated so differently.
Really interesting point, Gee, and it makes sense. When dealing with the fact that he’s a pedophile, it hurts the soul too much to think very hard about it. But we can soak up the schadenfreude when it comes to the fact that he’s not the sharpest philanderer on the adult-friend-finder website. I just hate that everyone (public at large, not here) was making excuses for his pedophilia, but now that he’s an adulterer there’s no coming back, apparently. But like you said, it could be because it’s easier to wrap one’s head around the latter.
He can’t be prosecuted for the abuse, but this new information reveals that, while adultery is not a crime in America (and everyone on Ashely Madison is a consenting adult) , it’s cold hard proof that he’s still a creep. Maybe he really doesn’t commit the crime of molesting kids anymore, but he’s still committing sexual sins that hurt other people, so it’s clear that his “redemption arc” is basically false.
If he hadn’t already been revealed as a child molester, the adultery reveal would have been enough to torpedo the marriage of and hurt the career of a celebrity who *wasn’t* a Hard Core Family Values Lobbyist.
Good insight. Plus the fact that the victims of his molestation were his own sisters (i.e. people we knew) and I think that kept the reactions a bit restrained.
I just watched a documentary on Netflix about child sex trafficking here in the US and I thought my head was going to explode. The way the law deals with *children* who are found to be sexually exploited is mind-numbing. Sexually exploited children are totally NOT protected in this country – in fact, just the opposite. Instead of offering care to the *children* picked up for prostitution, they are sent away to a juvenile detention facility, while the perps and pimps walk away scott-free.
I believe that child sex abuse is brushed aside because SO many men in positions of money and power are involved in the abuse.
Shambles and Boston, I agree with you both. It’s really concerning how we, as a culture, see and address pedophilia. It’s some real institutional garbage.
I’m inclined to agree with you. I posted on the other thread that far too much power has been invested for far too long in a very small group of people – rich and powerful men at the top of society who live well outside the behavioural norms that apply to the rest of us.
Ugh, BGE, that is nauseating. It’s a little too hard to think about all the men in power who are complicit in such total evil.
The Duggars are an extreme case, but they do a great job of illustrating how much shame is still attached to sexuality, albeit in a much more concentrated from. It’s that very same shame that treats the victims of sex crimes–children and adults alike– like criminals who should be punished for being assaulted. It’s terrible.
BGE, it’s also easier for society at large to shame and sequester impoverished, powerless children with abuse-related PTSD, who are regarded as damaged goods, than to prosecute and punish men who pay money to have sex with them. They may not be powerful men, necessarily, but they will often be “pillars of the community” who have jobs, pay taxes, have families, donate to political campaigns, and go to church. Prosecuting them is seen as embarrassing their families and “ruining their lives”, whereas the child prostitutes’ lives are seen as ruined already. Much easier to treat the children like criminals, so we don’t have to take their stories seriously and wonder what the F*CK is wrong with us as a society. It’s hard to know whether to vomit, cry, or scream.
P.S. And, of course, we then try to make ourselves feel better with draconian sex offender laws that end up putting 18-year-olds on sex offender registries for having consensual sex with their 16-year-old girlfriends. Or prosecuting under-18s under child pornography laws for sending naked pictures OF THEMSELVES when sexting. As if that makes anything better in any way.
A former Speaker of the House molested students when he was a teacher and very few news outlets have even covered that scandal
@TOK, it’s so horrific and you are correct. The documentary focused on a woman who was raped by her drugged-out mother’s boyfriend when she was like, 4 years old!! And now this woman is also drug addicted and is in prison for drugs and child endangerment. The film interviewed the social worker who tried to help “Michelle” when she was still young, but the pimps already had gotten to her and she kept running away to be on the street with the pimp.
With the child molestation revelation, they largely fell back on the “he was just a kid too” defense. This time he’s an adult. This time it’s no youthful experimentation gone horribly wrong. This time he had a legit outlet for sexual experimentation, even sanctioned under the eyes of his cult, a wife who could never say no, no matter what. And it wasn’t enough. Sick.
I agree, it’s sick. Perhaps it’s because, at least to them, the molestation is in the past and “over with”. They’ve dealt with it and moved on, however this is new. We see a very big difference between the two, but they don’t. Sin is sin, it’s all equally bad. The molestation is a past sin that they’ve processed. The adultery and porn is a new sin that they may actually not have known about until very recently. Perhaps they truly thought Josh was “cured” after the last round of praying the sin away, and then he obviously wasn’t (because duh) and it’s shaken them. They can’t fall back on the “he was a kid, he didn’t know” defense either. This time it’s REAL, they’re WRONG and they can’t handle it.
Well it seems he has moved on to adult women. I was surprised his profile didn’t say he liked the “school girl” look or liked barely legal girls.
What makes me sad is that they are a mess because all of this stuff became public, not because, well you know, their son molested his sisters
Right!!! The Duggars are sick over this, but think his molesting of children and his sisters was nothing.
Right. That was just because of hormones and Satan.
Yes! He feels his life is ruined?!!? What about his victims? Still all about themselves, always. 👀
“We don’t even know what the truth is anymore. ”
The truth is, JB and Squirrel, that you birthed and raised a child-molesting pervert and taught him to believe that he was the golden child who could do no wrong, that females existed for him to use and exert power over, and that he would never be held responsible for his sexual perversions or anything else.
That’s the truth.
Now, Squirrel, get a job that does not involve pushing things in or out of vaginas to support the brood you produced and send the school-aged ones to real school so they can get exposure to people who aren’t supporters of child molesters.
Oh, and Squirrel, i pray that every single one of your underaged children revolts against you and your evil stupidity.
Amen! Preach it, Sister!
well said !
Yes!…To infinity and beyond!
Amen.
Adding another endorsement to your post.
*clapping*
(and STILL laughing at “squirrel”!)
Yup!
And I am sick of them all ignoring the fact that they helped enable their son’s behavior. You taught him there was no consequences to molesting his sisters. Of course this dumbass is going to cheat and then try to blame it on porn. Not his own short failings.
I hope this puts a fork in them doing any shows. Be gone Duggars.
They not only enabled, they got their pal Huckabee involved to interfere in the state agency’s actions against Josh, that would have taken him from that home and put him in counseling
I know. Why is no one even commenting on that.
Agree with everything; would like to add that JB strongly resembles a gopher, so perhaps they should be referred to as Gopher and Squirrel…
http://www.gophercount.com/images/gopher.jpg
You know its bad when you are reading about these people and thinking they are on par with CO$.
And now they wish to distance themselves from him, for both parties’ sake?!?! They acted more quickly on these revelations than what happened under their own roof, to their own daughters!
shouting BRAVO and applauding as loudly as I can.
Sing it sister!!!!!
Claps loudly! +a million
Henceforth, Squirrel’s sperm donor will be known as “Gopher BJ”
I just can’t wait not to have to look at Jim Bob and Michelle’s stupid faces. Go away forever.
I absolutely agree that their repressed views and how they raised/are raising their children created this.
I’m Australian and we just don’t have the same evangelical, Christian culture over here but still I find it veeeeeeery interesting the way more often than not, paedophilia and sexual perversion are linked with fundamentalist religious groups.
I try to be a good person; I stop and give money to buskers and the homeless, I diligently recycle bottles and paper, I don’t eat meat because I don’t want to hurt animals, I shop at thrift stores to save the world’s resources, I donate money to Greenpeace, I borrow from the library instead of buying books, I bring my kids up to be loving and non judgemental and compassionate…and goddamnit I am also an ATHEIST!
When will the world get with the programme? Being religious does not equal being a good person.
Ok. Rant over.
I could have written your post word for word. It fits me to a T. And I get ticked because I know that, honestly, I am a better person than many of the Bible thumpers.
well said, snowpea. for anyone to say that they (or anyone else) NEED religion to give them a moral compass is pretty weak, IMO.
religion can help guide you, and give you comfort, but it shouldn’t be the SOLE reason that one tries to be a good person. to add, as I and a few others have been saying…
…so often you have the most outspoken “Christians” as the ones acting in a MOST un-Christ-like way. it’s used by so many to hide behind racism and other bigotry, misogyny, and hate of anyone different from themselves. and helping the less fortunate? pffft, they should just get a job and “stop being poor”, amirite?
I’ve always in a way envied people who had religion. “God will fix it and make it ok” they say when they have troubles. Meanwhile I’m over here thinking, “My rent and my student loans rides or dies with me, God ain’t giving me a check” and stressing. I don’t claim to know what’s out there. Could be a giant white dude with a beard. Could be aliens. Could be nothing. Could be a giant colander. Could be C’thulhu. It has no impact on my day to day life so I’m not too worried about it.
Also there’s Quiverfulls in NZ, some weird offshoot. I think I read about them on the Daily Mail.
I agree with you, snowpea. I do believe in God, however, I don’t practice any form of religion because instead of being humble, good people, most religious people are everything but. Very sanctimonious, very holier than thou, etc.
So I just go my own way and try to be a good person.
I’m pretty much the same way. I believe in God and trying my best to be a good person, but I don’t follow any organized religion. Other people can do what they want but I’m my opinion, organized religion has done more harm than good.
Bravo. I grew up Catholic but ended up dropping religious ed with my kids — which I had really only started out of some weird sense of duty to my mom — fairly early on because it felt hypocritical in many ways. I realized the best way to teach them to be good people was to model it myself and gently guide them into acts of kindness and generosity without using religion to do the heavy lifting for me, as so many people seem to want to do.
So after reading Josh’s statement yesterday about how he was most upset about disappointing Jesus I didn’t know whether to laugh to cry. How about the “disappointment” of the sisters he abused? Apparently it doesn’t even deserve mention. Grr.
@Snowpea I dont doubt that evangelicals are not mainstream in Australia but doesnt one of the most insidious of the mega churches have its roots, and substantial following, have its roots there? They were the fastest growing church in the world for years. I speak ofcourse of pastor Brians Hillsongs. And if you ever, for any reason, want to induce a rage stroke, watch his sermons on marriage and the role of women.
The second largest producer of Christian Contemporary Music (Christian Rock) is Australia. Half the artists on Christian Radio are from there.
And- the Duggars are not evangelicals, they’re fringe fundamentalists. I was raised conservative evangelical, the difference between the Bill Gothard cult and what I was raised with is…fairly large. So is that what’s causing the confusion? People look at the Duggars being called “evangelicals” and think “well, thank goodness we don’t have those HERE.”
Oooops yes that is right. They are conartists plain and simple.
I’m a Christian (by my standard, I’m sure not theirs) and I honestly don’t think God cares what you call yourself or whether or not you go to church. He cares about your intentions and how you live your life. I know so many people who are religious, and the louder somebody screams their righteousness, the more they have to hide, in my experience. It’s all about them.
Dont trust anyone who can relieve themselves of guilt by asking their imaginary friend for forgiveness.
THIS!!!
Even Pope Francis agrees, which delights me as an agnostic who was raised catholic.
They are such dimbulbs. “Limiting” your kids’ exposure to “outside influences” makes it more exciting for them–ya know, forbidden fruit?
Parents whose only trick in the book is to limit exposure to outside influences just don’t have any skill in parenting. It’s the lazy way to go, it’s the way that doesn’t require you to do any work or be thoughtful. Education is the only way to go. Teach your kids, don’t be lazy and simply forbid everything. I honestly think that they are incredibly lazy, uneducated, and un-involved, parents.
I think Squirrel proved she had no skill in parenting when she allowed her son to continue molesting his sleeping sisters.
You’d think they might realize that locking their kids down to such a degree, everything being so rigidly controlled and suppressed… it’s just not normal! What is normal is kids starting to have urges and feelings and hormones raging and to just pretend they don’t exist, and to tell kids that thinking lustful thoughts or touching themselves or even looking at someone they consider immodestly dressed (showing knees and shoulders!) is a huge sin they must confess immediately…well, how can they not end up with screwed up feelings about sex and love and desire, etc. They can’t even hold hands until they are engaged to someone!
The parents don’t trust their kids with anything. They must always go everywhere with an “accountability partner”…even when they adults! Not exactly an environment that encourages trust and maturity. The parents control every single thing until the kid marries and then they are just supposed to be normal and enjoy sex? Especially when they don’t believe in birth control and so it could mean another mouth to feed almost every time they do it (if she isn’t already pregnant).
I’m not excusing Josh for any of the things he has done, especially not the molestation of his sisters, but I do think Jim Bob and Michelle have created an environment that is ripe to cause sexual dysfunction and screwed up feelings about sex, love, lust and marriage.
The worst part is that instead of re-evaluating how they raised Josh, and wondering if maybe keeping the kids away from every possible bad influence isn’t the best way to “protect” them, they will clamp down and probably be even stricter now…more God…more praying…even less freedom for the younger kids, especially the boys. They don’t seem to realize that when you yell Nike! to tell your kids to look down at their running shoes when a woman dressed “immodestly” walks by, you aren’t protecting them from the real world, you are making them hyper aware and frightened of everything. If they just let their kids go out normally and see friends and go to the beach etc., so they see a woman in a bikini and might have a lustful thought or two. Guess what it’s normal! They have hormones, it’s supposed to make them feel that way. As they age, they learn to control those feelings.
The Duggars talk about responsibility but blame women for men feeling lust instead of teaching the boys that it’s normal to feel lust but you have to learn to control your feelings because it’s not okay to act on them without consent. Their kids have to live in the real world and they have not prepared them at all…they keep them locked in a hyper-religious bubble telling them they are better for all the restrictions they have whlie they do nothing to encourage them to educate themselves so they can earn a living and support their multitudes of kids. They are so scared the kids will hear a viewpoint that differs from theirs. You reap what you sow indeed. And Josh is the perfect example. Their firstborn. They can’t even blame the older girls because Michelle is the one who looked after Josh as a baby and toddler. The girls didn’t take over mothering the kids till long after.
Well said Suzy. These kids were never given any tools for managing their normal sexual urges. It’s all ‘avoid avoid avoid’. I honestly think Josh would have ended up a pervert anyway, but once it came to light that he was copping feels on his sleeping sisters , any normal mother would have locked HIS bedroom at night until she could get him out of the house and dealt with. And I (personally) would have had all the girls in MY bed with me, until I was sure they were safe.
How is Josh supporting his family?
With whatever money is left from the TV show.
Savings? Donations from the church?
Exactly – adulterous website fees and hookers aren’t cheap.
They used to have a used car lot before he moved to Washington.
I’m realllllllly curious as to what Jana Duggar thinks. Isn’t she the one who has half-way admitted that she wants out, and wants to go to college? Or, am I remembering this incorrectly?
If she’s smart, she’ll d do a tell-all. That is the ticket to riches for any Duggar child who wants to make their own money to escape the compound.
I’d buy it!
Authorities should be on the lookout for a spike in Kool-Aid sales at local stores.
I always wondered about her.
If there was ever a time to escape, this is it. Public support would be at an all-time high.
Hope someone takes the opportunity.
Gopher and Squirrel have probably already warned her off any such ideas. Because it would hurt the remaining drones, donchaknow?
Wasn’t she the one that was rumored to being courted by Tim Tebow and even *he* found that her religion was a bit “extreme”? And this is the dude that starred in an anti-abortion commercial during the Super Bowl (or was it the NCAA National Championship game?) a few years back. (I say this as a FL grad mind you that went to school during the Tebow era)
I wonder who the inside source is that’s talking to People magazine — could it be Jana, or do her idiot parents have her and the rest of the kids on an even tighter lock down right now?
Guess what? God isn’t going to help you. Just like God didn’t pull Josh’s profile down from Ashley Madison, OK Cupid and Facebook. God also didn’t intervene to stop him form molesting his own sisters. Wake up, Duggar family. You need to handle this sh*t on your own.
Jessa is pissssseeeeed…….
If she’s really fame hungry, she can still get there. If she divorces her husband, moves away and trashes her family.
Yup. And, ya know, come to think of it, out of them all, Jessa may be the one to do it. Many moons ago, I watched about a dozen episodes. During that time, I remember thinking that Jessa seemed miserable. She seemed unhappy; which, to me, was a good sign at the time, as I figured she’d be the first to “wake up” and get the heck out of the compound. Then I stopped watching, and several years later, assumed she was fully indoctrinated after hearing about the gun instagram pics and her wedding to a fellow culty.
But maybe she just went with the company line for the fame?
I’ll say this: Jessa is gorgeous. Like, stunning. I bet if she broke away, she could find some “on camera” media related work — especially this day in age.
That woman, Michelle, scares me shitless. She has such steely eyes, they give me the heebie jeebies.
What? You don’t recognize Jaysus staring back at you through Squirrel’s eyes? Hallelujah! You’re saved!
TBH…I have not watched a single episode of their show. Any time Celebitchy blogged about any of them I scrolled over that story as I was not interested. I read headlines and that was that. Done.
I started reading when the scandal broke a few months ago. The parents are terrible people. There is a saying …if you know better you DO better. I believe in their twisted, sanctimonious minds they DO know better but they are RIGHT fighters and nothing will ever change with that family.
Ya. I am done reading about that family. They do not deserve press nor time. Particularly Our time. I will start scrolling past Celebitchy blogs about this unstable and “righteous” family.
I just want to say that it is not right to blame his actions solely on his fundamental christian background. In Germany, after the sexual revolution in the sixties and seventies, there were a lot of “liberals” that claimed, that it is ok to have sexual encounters with children. These liberals were also mostly atheists, since they became members of parties which did not have a christian background (the greens and the liberal party).
Just sayin that perverts can be found everywhere. Also especially among those, who are very open when it comes to sexuality.
Somewhere in Heaven, the Holy Trinity is sitting back, watching this, shaking their heads and saying: “we’re not cleaning this mess up and their incessant praying for us to cover up their own wrongdoing is giving us headaches.”
yeah, if there were ever a time for the Metatron to make an appearance and speak to someone, it’d be now.
“shaddup ya dumb hypocrites! you’re on your own!”
I think God has a permanent face palm impression on his forehead from these people.
i’m sorry if this offends anyone but I roll my eyes and think “total Christian hypocrisy”. Sorry. I’m speaking of the uber Christians out there who do nothing but profess how glory-ious, righteous and RIGHT they are whilst putting YOU down (“you’re going to Hell! you’re a sinner!”) all because your personal spiritual beliefs (which is a basic human right- I don’t care where you come from or what you believe in) don’t align 100% exactly to yours.
Yes, I have a chip on my shoulder because I grew up in a religious free household BUT basic Christian values (you know the ones) were installed. I was given the freedom to choose what I personally belief and I feel that has made my ‘faith’ even stronger. I CHOSE it. I investigated, thought, experienced sought after and came to my own conclusions. It’s a lil this n a lil that and it’s all my own.
But I can’t tell you how many hundreds of times I’ve been sent to slaughter for my beliefs. Ths Josh Duggar thing, nothing new here, story as old as time. It seems when religious doctrine is so heavily enforced and shoved down one’s throat the more apt they are to go ballistic from it.
And my 2nd piont, yes, children are a gift from God. How blessed. BUT….how much parental time, energy, money, discipline, food, shelter, education and ATTENTION can you give to your herd of 18+? These kids are factory models. Maybe if the herd had been kept under, oh, IDK, ten? maybe some dedicated, conscious parenting quality time could have been afforded to JD. You can’t tel me he’s the ONLY one in that sadistic Brady Bunch to have gone off the wires…just you wait.
And GOOD riddance! Sweet Jesus, that Bob the Builder hairdo and Claw Bang Frizz Perm will not be missed!
You’re not offending me, you’re singing my song.
Edit: @e, this was supposed to post to you
I consider myself a Christian and your post is lovely to me. Sadly, attention paid to the Duggars and those like them tend to make the general public conflate Christianity with ignorance. Like any other cult, their “quiver full movement”, or whatever it is called, is disgustin. In this case, the cult grants one group absolute power over another. It’s hard to believe that this type of human behavior exists in this day and age.
#sickofallcults
Totally agree. What also really bothers me, on my end, is that even the Christians that I know are disgusted…..won’t come out and directly say anything. I’m talking about my former pastor of a church my family attended (until even MY DAD–who is against gay marriage in theory, but *I* think doesn’t think/know about the ramifications of it, beyond God says Naw!–got creeped out by his anti-gay preaching, and bully members of the congregation who hadn’t been going)………..when gay marriage was announced as legal by the Supreme Court, I swear he had at least three posts denouncing it–directly and indirectly. Talking about how God was going to “get” America. When this dickwad was found out about molesting his five year old sister…..you know what this pastor did. Wrote a short post about how just because you’re forgiven i.e. saved, doesn’t mean you get to go out and sin. YEAH. A load of hypocritical bull….because I know most Christians (at least around me), who didn’t watch their show, liked the Duggars because they had so many kids.
The apple doesn’t fall far from the creepy hypocrites.
can you please stop posting josh duggar’s face?
I second this comment. Actually, black bars over all of the Duggar crazy eyes might be good!
This, and that ice-cream sharing photo of JimBoob and Michelle is nauseating. No photos of the Duggars should be allowed without a red circle with a line through it, or a big “FAIL” stamped across it.
I want to get out my B—S— stamp and plaster it all over that stupid Starbucks photo!!!
Yeah like they really don’t know. Of course they do. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. It seems pretty obvious to me that the father has a hideous sex addiction. Maybe he manages to “control” it by containing it in his marriage, maybe not. Either way, having a son who is a paedophile, a porn addict and has multiple affairs means you’ve either sexually abused your son or someone else has.
I seriously would not put it past Squirrel
They control and limit outside influences over their gaggle of kids, eh? That just tells me what I already suspected – that Jim-Bob is a big old creeper and that’s where Josh learned all this behavior from. I’m telling you, that guy is gross.
The reason he has a steep hill is because he can’t go back to his tea party roots and spread crazy propaganda. He’s too tainted. The prospect of actually going to college and being something else is obviously too horrifying.
We all know who is responsible for Josh’ s indiscretions.
The Gay Agenda!
Marriage Equality is going to destroy the institution of Marriage.
#sarcasm
I read this BS yesterday on People website.
I find it interesting that people are still defending him on that site saying adultery is not a crime.I think Josh could get a mistress pregnant and Duggar supporters would still defend him.
Adultery isn’t a crime but child molestation is.
Also ironically it’s a crime under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (I know he’s not in the military but it is a bit random to find out that bit).
First of all, cheating on your wife cannot be explained away by a porn addiction. He made a choice to sign up on a website and troll the Internet. He is a sh-tty person. The end. His parents have raised him to believe that he can make excuses for all of his actions and that he should never be held accountable for the things he does. It’s satan’s fault for giving him desires! Or his sisters’ faults for being female! But poor Josh, he’s just confused!
It’s sickening, but I think that these people are making a bigger fuss over his adultery and “porn addiction” because he molested his own sisters. No one ever talks about the other girl he molested, the baby sitter. I think Jim Bob and Michelle believe that their children are their property, so if Josh molested their daughters, they believe that they have the right to tell these girls to just suck it up and move on and forgive their brother because “he didn’t mean it.” So now we have Josh who is sexually all kinds of f-cked up due to his warped upbringing that sex is bad, etc. And we also have the girls, who are surely all kinds of f-cked up as well because they’re raised the same way to believe sex is bad, and on top of that they were molested by their own brother and made to feel that they couldn’t even feel violated or upset by it because their parents didn’t want them to. All of these repressed feelings and for what? All this holier than thou bullsh-t and their kids are all screwed up in one way or another.
I need someone to help me understand why Jim Bob and Michelle are still allowed to have children in their home, and why child services isn’t doing their job and getting those kids the hell out of there.
I was raised fundy Baptist, tho’ not this extreme, and by limiting our exposure to TV, pop music, non-Christian books, they hoped to keep us “untainted” by the world. The problem with that thinking is that the Bible says we have enough proclivity to sin within ourselves that we don’t need all those “outside” influences to sin. I didn’t go clubbing or drop F-bombs, but I was jealous, envious, condescending, coveting, manipulative, lustful etc, so according to the bible, I was sinning every day in a myriad of ways, just not the technicolor sins that get highlighted by Christians. It’s what Jesus called a whitewashed tomb.
Naturally, many of us at church rebelled and listened to rock-n-roll, snuck out to movies, watched MTV (in the 80’s, when it was good!) and experimented sexually. Virtually every kid I knew growing up went off the deep end in by college, married and divorced and didn’t straighten themselves out until well into their 30’s. Out of 25 or so kids, I can only think of one that seemed to stick on the straight and narrow.
The Duggers and people like them don’t realize the extent of their ability to sin, without all those evil influences from the worldly culture they live in. So they will continue to hunker down in hopes of “fixing” what’s broken within their own broken culture and messed up way of thinking. They aren’t humble enough to understand that *they* are the problem, not the influence of the depraved society that *we* live in.
It kind of always happens. I went to school in 2004 and there were girls in the dorm that loudly protested that the school offering condoms was offensive to their religious beliefs. I regularly was told I was going to hell for having my husband (then fiance) stay over the night to “sin” and all of that. By Junior year, the ones that hadn’t dropped out because they were pregnant (sure could’ve used those condoms) had a…”reputation”, deserved or not.
You tell someone “no no no no” and then they go out into the world and what do you get? This. It’s overwhelming. It’s too much. So they go to the extreme.
I feel terribly sorry for the young wife. She has four young children and is married to a man off the rails.
Honestly does anyone believe they are shocked? Or that Jim bob doesn’t do the same? I just feel like they raise their children to believe men are entitled to sex that it is their fundamental right and not only that but men are superior to women and women exsist to serve men.
So honestly does anyone truly believe Jim bob doesn’t have affairs? Or that they don’t actually condone this as well men need certain things sexually that good Christian women and mothers can’t and shouldn’t provide as its a sin so we go to “whores.”
I never thought about it being a like-father-like-son situation. Now I’ve got even worse images in my head.
Out of genuine curiosity…. how were his AM accounts found? I mean I know you can type in an e-mail address to see if it shows up (yeah I tried it – nothing!) but are there people trying every celebrity’s address just to see if they get a hit? Is there another way to scroll though all the millions of addresses? It just seems that they found this one really quickly.
Partial credit car numbers were published as well. My guess is they traced the credit cards.
Thereto fillme with rage. I want to punch them both in their ugly faces.
The only way he could even begin to repair his mainstream image is to go to a proper rehab for a very long period of time. But then his own kind would completely turn on him, and we’d all still hate him too so….
…Crazy. All of these people are absolutely crazy. And evil.
The schadenfreude is so delicious its fattening!
Religious fanatics have tunnel vision when it comes to their faith. Michelle doesn’t believe that her religious practices caused any of this because it’s not supposed to, in theory. That tunnel vision prevents her from seeing that her upbringing didn’t turn her into the greatest raging slut to ever prance in a bikini just as it prevents her from seeing that turning sex into the ultimate forbidden fruit made it even more desirable to those denied just about everything.
They’ll continue to pray that their version of Christianity works, and it’ll continue to fail, and then they’ll pray some more convinced that it’s Satan’s work (the devil is a liar!!) because they cannot see anything else. They created their own paradoxical nightmare here and because we’re the ones outside their periphery, we’re the only ones who can see it.
It never going to matter what he does, these kind of sociopaths blame the devil.
I worked with a family were the family was very religious. The father was a control freak and a fraud.
He would put on his time card he was at work when he wasn’t.
He told everyone he was a lawyer but never took the bar.
When his wife wanted to go back to school he convinced to have a baby. ( They already had three)
And when ever someone challenged his lies he would say the devil was involved.
I was young and not a good employee but never blamed anyone but myself.
Duggars, you have failed your children, yet you are not able to recognise it and probably never will be. Easier to blame it on satan, gay people, women, weather and/or whatever else you want to blame it on. You don’t love your children, your actions clearly show you don’t know nor understand what love is.
Just waiting for many ‘paid escorts’ to come forward and say they have been with him. That will be next story.
Yup. I want to see the woman/en he cheated with.
Hee I said the same. $1000? Guaranteed! I am sure he had no offers and had to pay lol
If I was God, Jesus or Satan I would be consulting my lawyers right now about having their name in vain and spreading slanderous stories by this awful family.
The Duggars’ only “God” appears to be money. They’ve capitalized on their sexist, restrictive and righteously superior beliefs to MAKE MONEY…lots of it….instead of fixing a very broken family member whose sick sexual proclivities are undoubtedly a direct result of their repressive and misogynistic religious practices.
Now I wonder how much they donate, tithe, give to charities? Probably zilch. They worship at the feet of almighty greed and fame and that goes entirely against what they preach. They hide their heads in the sands of religious intolerance, all the while raking in big money thinking that God has rewarded them handsomely for their unwavering devotion.
Well if there is a God, I’m sure He/She/It is looking down on all you lot thinking “Bingo! Give them enough rope and they hang themselves” and laughing at your greed and stupidity.
If you listen to tv preachers, most of them do preach the gospel of money. Not only are they always asking for more donations – they also preach that success and good fortune will come your way if you are saved and born again and of course support their ministry. They must have torn out the story of Job from their bibles. They really are the type that Jesus tossed out of the temple. Con artists, really. Just another version of the snake oil salesmen. They’re taking money from many people who really can’t afford it.
This doesn’t mean that all Christian preachers are like that. I know ones who aren’t. But my bet is that the gospel of money is one that the Duggars follow as well.
I could bet money that Jim Bob Duggar is also a lying cheater. That apple did not fall far from that tree. There are many sins in this family and it all starts from the top. That would be amazingly epic if the dad had some major crap on himself too.
Can you imagine the woman that would be his side piece? SHUDDER.
Dunno about that. Jim Bob and his wife are pretty busy in the bedroom already, would he have the time?!? 🙂 But seriously, although there are many things about Jim Bob that I don’t like, I really have never seen anything that would make me think he was a cheater or “porn addict”. That accusation could be made against any man without evidence, but a lot of innocents would be caught in such a broad net. I suggest waiting until something more concrete pops up that points to that conclusion.
In any case, Josh was quite capable of finding porn and dating/cheating sites all on his own, we don’t need to speculate about his dad based on zero evidence. That’s how baseless rumors transform magically into “everybody knows that X did Y ….” pseudotruths on the net. Somebody makes a speculation on a blog or during a public discussion with no real evidence and it gets repeated in an endless game of telephone – and before long, everybody is assuming the story is absolutely true even when it is actually absolutely false. We’re all guilty of it to one degree or another, but still have to be careful.
Jim Bob is so proud of himself he is delusional. Michelle is living in a pregnancy bubble. Maybe now that she’s not having babies her brain will engage. I watched a show when I think they were getting ready for a wedding. They were all sitting around a table doing their nails. Michelle was sitting there putting rhinestones of somethings on her nails and she said “I’m all about bling”. Nobody made a comment about it, but I thought that woman is out of touch with reality. For some reason she has suppressed herself so much that her whole life is an act and she doesn’t even know it.
I think she’s heavily medicated. I also think her lady parts must be in one heck of a state. 19 kids would not be kind to that area. I have 2 kids (by c-section) and it never goes back to what it was. 19…that’s gotta be something for a medical journal.
Large families even of that size were not that uncommon in previous times. But a significant number of the kids did not survive all the way to adulthood in many cases. Of course, the maternal death rate during birth was higher also- some some of those large families were the result of remarriage a after the death of a wife. Still, it was not so unusual for women to continue to have pregnancies not very far apart until menopause.
You cannot force faith on another human being. You can try to guide them to faith but when it comes down to the bottom line, faith is something that comes from within. There is a difference between faith and religion that I do not think this family seems to grasp. There are times when religion impedes faith with needless dogma while faith always enhances religion and makes it richer. How many times have any of us sat and looked around the folks at the church service and wondered how many were there just to be seen instead of trying to find comfort or understanding of their faith?
You are so right! I have felt the same way.
Unfortunately, there are many unChristian Christians who revel in being ‘self righteously smug’ when judging others.
I agree! As a Christian i hope some do not excuse or justify this horrid behavior
I feel bad for the children and his siblings.
I am disgusted at anyone ignoring this and wtf is affair guaranteed. Just go hire a prostitute and pay for sex.
Icky, awful, nasty people. I feel like I need to wash out my brain for just reading about them.
@Maria, you nailed it.
Horrible parents. HOrrible.
You know what really is a mess???? That mop on Michelle’s head! Please do something with it. Your still living in the 80s.
Compared to molested daughters and a wife accepting blame for her husband’s infidelity, Michelle’s hair is dead last on the list of Duggar Issues.
Hair isn’t the issue. Perhaps they should fix their son before he continues to breed.
Anyone notice how Josh almost never looks directly at the camera? He is doing this little creepy smile and looking just slightly off to the right, while his wife beams directly at the camera. Gee, guess who it is that had something to hide?
Well… Today on TV I saw JimBob and Michelle (AKA Moose and Squirell) on some old clip and heard that baby squirell voice “well..(looks blankly an JimBoob)”…and that was all I could take. Turned off the TV and sent roughly 5 or so Tweets to TLC telling them the biggest mistake they could make now is to let the Duggars back on….even for a one off.
Then I asked them how can they have a beautiful, inspiring, brave transgender young lady like Jazz on their network, while also airing a show, DUGGARS, who are a Bigot, Misogynistic, Homophobic cult that ACTIVELY wants to stop people like Jazz (and my son) from having all the same rights they have? I’m sure Jazz knows this too. She’s smart and on TLC soooo..she watches.
TLC…if you ever, EVER! dare to air any Duggar Fuggery again, you’d better go and explain to that sweet girl Jazz why you allow people on your Network who think she and others like her are going to hell, and how they want to deny her her sense of SELF, and how they go to Washington to lobby against her having the same rights as everyone else, and thinks she is “damaged”.
You think you’ve gotten backlash so far TLC?
Just try it. There are many out here who will nail your greedy asses to the wall like the hypocrytes and bottom feeders you are.
STOP! No! Duggars. EVER again!
Yep, it sure is. A mess YOU created. Made your bed, lie in it.
You know what the Duggar’s are thinking/preaching/brainwashing right now: They probably think that, because they are SOOOO close to God and godliness, it’s making Satan work extra hard to break them. It’s an all-out holy war going on over in Arkansas. They all better start spitting out some more babies to build their army.