The other day, I was seriously thinking to myself, “God, it’s been so long since Mel Gibson called someone a ‘glum c—t’ and threatened to choke someone out if they didn’t blow him in the Jacuzzi.” It’s almost as if I willed it, I swear. Anyway, Mel is Sydney, Australia right now. He took his young girlfriend, 24-year-old Rosalind Ross, for a little working vacation, it seems (Mel is set to make a movie in Australia soon). The Daily Mail had exclusive photos of them over the weekend – go here to see. While it didn’t seem like Mel and Rosalind were posing their asses off for the photographers, you can tell that they’re aware that they’re being photographed and they seem rather ambivalent about it.
Then, just one day later, a photographer with Australia’s Daily Telegraph was trying to snap some photos of Mel and Rosalind. And everything went sideways. The photographer is a woman named Krista Miller and she told her story to her newspaper:
Kristi Miller was subjected to a tirade of profanity that only ended when the Oscar-winning actor’s young girlfriend, Rosalind Ross, intervened. Miller had captured the couple, who were sighted for the first time together last week at Matilda, crossing the road in Oxford Street.
“I thought he was going to punch me in the face,” Miller said. “He was spitting in my face as he was yelling at me, calling me a dog, saying I’m not even a human being and I will go to hell. He swore and called me a c**t. It was non-stop, he didn’t even breathe.”
Gibson accused Miller, 39, of “invading” his space and “disrespecting” him by taking the photograph.
“I took a photo of Mel and his girlfriend and when I turned around he shoved my back really hard,” Miller explained. “It shocked me because I wasn’t expecting it. I don’t know if it was his hands or elbow.”
Miller was shaken by the altercation outside Palace Verona Cinema on busy Oxford St, Paddington, and said she feared she would be pushed on to the road. Gibson, 59, held his clenched fist and stood over her with onlookers later stepping in to see if she was OK.
Ross, 24, a champion US equestrian vaulter, was by his side and was overheard apologising.
“He was backing me on to the road,” Miller said. “It was only when (Ross) grabbed his shoulder and said, ‘that is enough’ that he stopped. She said, ‘I’m so sorry, I’m so sorry’. They turned and crossed the road and walked off.”
The Daily Telegraph notes that Miller reported the incident to the police and they are investigating the situation and hoping to find some CCTV footage of what went down, which makes sense because this seemed to have gone down in the middle of a busy road/sidewalk. It wouldn’t even surprise me if Mel was aiming to push Miller into traffic.
As you can imagine, Mel’s people are already trying to say that nothing happened at all. Mel’s rep ran to TMZ and said: “Basically Mr. Gibson and his friend were being harassed by this photographer and he asked her repeatedly to stop, which she did not. There was never any physical contact whatsoever and the story being told by her is a complete fabrication of the truth.” Yeah, that’s the problem when you have a history of screaming at every woman you encounter and dropping C-bombs like candy. That’s the problem when you have a history of abusing women. No one really believes it when your rep is like “nope, never happened!”
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
Well, that is a problem because everyone will believe her, even if it isn’t true.
Oxford St is insanely busy and loaded with CCTV. If she’s lying, she picked a really stupid place to say it happened, because there should be loads of witnesses and at least some CCTV footage showing it, if not a camera pointed directly at them.
I doubt she’s lying, just by this line:
“I took a photo of Mel and his girlfriend and when I turned around he shoved my back really hard,” Miller explained. “It shocked me because I wasn’t expecting it. I don’t know if it was his hands or elbow.”
If you’ve ever been assaulted, that’s exactly what it feels like. It happens so fast you almost don’t know what happened, if that makes any sense.
Also, if things went down the way the journalist described she probably wasn’t trying to intentionally provoke him, rather just doing her job. If she had been trying to get a money shot, I doubt Gibson’s girlfriend would be so profusely apologetic.
But the girlfriend didn’t say he was apologetic, the pap did. And there is no way of knowing what transpired before that. To be clear, I’m not a fan of Gibson. But on the other side, it’s not to difficult to come up with a scenario that fits the pattern. And even if the girlfriend apologized, he could have been shouting and spitting (not intentionally) simultaneously. Hopefully there is footage which proves the case either way.
This is what I said:
“Also, if things went down the way the journalist described she probably wasn’t trying to intentionally provoke him, rather just doing her job. If she had been trying to get a money shot, I doubt Gibson’s girlfriend would be so profusely apologetic.”
If the journalist was trying to make Gibson look bad, why would she then go out of her way to make his girlfriend seem like a reasonable person? It would make more sense to make them both look like irrational aholes.
From her story, I took away that he was shouting and spitting at the same time (“He was spitting in my face as he was yelling at me”)–she didn’t say that he spit on her. Although, I don’t think spitting or not spitting matters that much, when you’re already pushing and verbally threatening someone–she probably would have preferred to get spit on at that point.
Anyway, It’s nice that you’re open-minded and all but I’m not obligated to give Mel Gibson the benefit of the doubt. In fact, I refuse to.
Tsk. I always miss the action… We were in the city when my daughter got a call from her friend, who was in Oxford Street. Jessica is correct – it’s always crowded with people. The friend had been out with friends, who’d all gone home. He was at loose ends, so asked if my daughter would stay out with him. She told him we were on our way home, as she had an early meeting in the morning. He said he’d walk home, in that case, as he’d left his wallet at home in the rush to go out. She told him to wait where he was, and that she’d pick him up and take him home. He’d been seriously assaulted by gay-haters twice before. We picked him up a couple of doors from that cinema. By the time we arrived, there was a thick throng, and the friend said he’d heard a bit of noise coming from there as he walked towards the cinema, but just assumed it was one of the many celebrity-types that that frequent the area, getting accosted by drunken fans. If only we’d arrived three minutes earlier…
Gibson’s vehemently denying he did anything wrong. Someone’s lying, and Jessica’s correct – that place has cameras everywhere, so stand by for the police report.
Gibson’s publicist vehemently denied physical contact but didn’t deny yelling. The publicist says that Gibson told Miller to get another job, so there is no denying that the encounter was hostile.
There should be a lot of eyewitnesses. In another article, the Daily Mail quoted Eitan Bienstock as saying “We were kind of surprised to see Mel Gibson, regardless of any controversial views…We were surprised because it was a very quiet evening – he was just walking with his girlfriend by himself. I don’t know who or what happened inside…He was very calm and collected. He wasn’t, he didn’t seem drunk or vocal.” That’s the direct quote. Mail also writes that “He [Bienstock] did not see Ms Miller get pushed, but said Gibson stood very close to her. The photographer seemed upset after the altercation.”
I doubt she’s lying. He has a history of no self control and of abusive behavior towards women. That kind of person will forget that there are security cameras everywhere. Even if she was pushy, that doesn’t mean you go into the kind of rage he is famous for. That foaming at the mouth, non stop haranguing is typical of violent people.
True. I really want to believe her, only for this line:
“It was non-stop, he didn’t even breathe.”
Am I horrible because I laughed?
I think she may have metaphorically ‘poked the bear’, antagonized, to get the money shot, not that he should put his hands on anyone, but there are unscrupulous paps.
With Gibson, “poking the bear” could be as simple as trying to take a picture of him. Mel Gibson has a history of being easily provoked–it doesn’t require “unscrupulous behavior”.
True, but there are photos above where he is perfectly okay with being papped. And we never saw those, until now, since they aren’t worth anything with him being compliant, no one cares. I’m just keeping an open frame of mind that goes beyond my blanket reaction. People should pay for current or past crimes that they actually committed, not based solely on the ones they committed before. that’s all. I’m not saying he didn’t do it, not saying he did.
That said, this young woman, his GF, is playing with fire.
But if she was poking the bear to get a good shot…why didn’t she take any while he was freaking out? I believe her.
“People should pay for current or past crimes that they actually committed, not based solely on the ones they committed before.”
When has this ever applied in the world of celebrity gossip? Hell Christine Ouzounian STILL hasn’t proven that she had an affair with Ben Affleck, yet everyone talks about it in absolutes. Same with his supposed affair with Blake Lively, Emily Ratajkowski and whoever else. I just get frustrated with how people pick and chose which celebrities they decide to be “open-minded” about.
Anyway, my deduction about the situation is pretty logical, Kiddo. I know nothing about this photographer except that she works for The Daily Telegraph. I don’t know if she has a history of provoking celebs, or is the type to put herself in harm’s way just to get a good pic.
What I DO know is that Mel Gibson has a history of domestic violence, has shown himself to be temperamental and prone to fits of rage whether it be towards screen writers ( Joe Eszterhas anyone?) or law enforcement. Gibson has rage issues, control issues, an alcohol problem (THREE DUIs) and has been verbally abusive towards women numerous times. It’s just logical to assume that this was probably another incident where Gibson flew off the handle.
It wasn’t like he had one isolated incident 20 years ago, Gibson has been engaging in a pattern of violence for decades—he doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt anymore. I’ll reserve that for the photographer, who hasn’t given me any reason to not believe her side of the story.
A man with a history of violent misogyny assaults someone and you want to play devil’s advocate here? Doubting a victim’s story out of an exaggerated sense of fairness to the perpetrator causes so much damage. Good grief.
Kitten, Cheating on a spouse isn’t a crime, unless you are in the military. People aren’t making up stories aout Ben, Someone’s PR team is putting the narratives, true or not.
AJ, I don’t know what happened. It’s not an “exaggerated” sense of fairness. Can fairness be exaggerated? Isn’t fair just fair? Something about this seemed off, to me, in spite of his history.
I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind. But I’m entitled not to have to automatically follow the herd, because my opinion pisses them off. It’s likely something happened, but I don’t know what.
And people ARE selective, depending on whether they are a fan or not. I’m actually not a fan of Gibson. His past history is beyond reprehensible.
@Kiddo-The narrative that Ben’s PR team is putting out is that nothing physical happened between Affleck and the nanny—–they haven’t veered from that since the story broke. I’m just saying that this information didn’t stop people from assuming otherwise. Blame Ben’s history or the general public’s dislike of him or simple celeb gossip fickleness, but the point still stands that nobody gave him the benefit of the doubt. It didn’t take much for people to believe that Ben had a torrid affair with his nanny.
“Kitten, Cheating on a spouse isn’t a crime, unless you are in the military.”
Yeah exactly. Yet that hasn’t stopped every Affleck-nanny post from generating 350 plus comments about what an awful person Ben Affleck is. Yet here we have only 60 or so comments where the “honorable” Mel Gibson is being defended and protected by several posters. I’m only bringing up Affleck as an example, trying to juxtapose the public reaction to both men and why I sometimes want to bang my head against a wall.
Gibson’s not *just* a domestic abuser–he’s racist, misogynistic, violent, and an Anti-Semite. He really has all bases covered when it comes to being an awful person.
You definitely don’t have to follow the herd (you know that!) but you should be prepared to defend your view. My intention wasn’t to try to silence you or bully you for feeling the way that you do–I was just clarifying why I feel so strongly about Gibson and why it’s easy for me to assume he did it. You have every right to reserve judgment.
To me, saying that Gibson might not have verbally assaulted a woman is like saying Charlie Sheen might not have banged a hooker.
*shrugs*
Kiddo,
My comment may have been a little harsh earlier, I was surprised by your stance on this issue. Of course you’re entitled to your opinion, and I frequently come across your comments on this site and usually agree wholeheartedly with them, but not in this instance.
Yes, in a sense “fairness” can become exaggerated. Typically in the vein of “I don’t want to take sides” or “I’m going to reserve judgement” or “two sides to every story!” or “other equivocating statement”, despite overwhelming evidence of an existing pattern of physical violence, bigotry, threats, verbal abuse, etc. It simply does not make sense to give the benefit of doubt to the repeat violent abuser. Remaining neutral in these circumstances is actually condoning the abuse, because while victims need people on their side, all the abuser needs is for others to stay out of it.
Mel Gibson is very powerful man. He has money and connections, and will likely never face any sort of judicial consequences for his actions. When people passively “don’t take sides” in a public forum, they are taking the side of the status quo, in which powerful people/organizations/governments step on less powerful people/organizations/governments, because that’s the way power works when nobody questions it or thinks about it very hard.
Yeah, I’m shocked. Everyone has their moments, but- to quote Dennis Lehane- there are things you know and things you can prove. I didn’t want to believe Cosby is a rapist, but at some point, it became clear. I’d like Gibson not to be a violent, misogynistic anti-Semite, but he’s proven himself time and again with his behavior. Dr. Dre repeatedly assaulted women, and now that he’s mainstream, he wants it hidden, but it was a pattern for a long time. All these men have patterns. There’s another actor, can’t think of his name, who was caught assaulting at least one woman, and made excuses for it. People who have patterns generally follow them, and try to create doubt by blaming the victims.
I don’t have a horse in this race. I’m sure there’ll be CCTV evidence of what happened. Just a reminder that Kristi Miller is not a pap. She’s employed by a daily newspaper to photograph all manner of situations, from local or visiting celebrities to urban developments to natural disasters.
Back to? He never stopped. What is wrong with this younger than his children girlfriend? Why subject yourself to this kind of man? If she is a U.S. Equestrian Team member there is money behind her. I say that because the ONLY reason anyone would be around Gibson would be THAT reason & seriously safety & your sanity is worth more than any monetary amount.
Disclaimer: I thought the young Mel was gorgeous but clearly the inside ugly eventually shows itself on the outside.
What IS wrong with her? You couldn’t pay me to date him and his lost the hot a long time ago.
I expect a break-up very shortly if this is true.
What ever happened to keeping your mouth shut if you have nothing nice to say?
Maybe it was just the way I was raised, but seriously, say whatever you want behind closed doors, but when you’re out in public, don’t act like an asshat even though someone might be getting on your nerves.
That’s not an asshat. That’s a violent person whose lack of self control is scarily close to the edge.
Hard to believe he was so hot once–before everyone knew his true self.
Yes, about 30 years ago he was incredibly gorgeous(anybody else here see Mrs. Soffel?). He also had that pristine, Cosby-like family man image. It’s astonishing what can be hidden. Mad Max I and II were two of my favorite films, but now they’re a bit tainted, same as those of one of my former favorite directors, Woody Allen.
I saw the Year of living dangerously, about a year or so ago, and he was pretty then. I think he fried his brain with alcohol and probably got progressively worse through the years.
Oh Mrs. Soffel. So very very hot. Hate really uglies up a person doesn’t it?
His true self has been coming out a lot longer than most know. In the late 80’s early 90’s my sister worked for a couple whose home/mansion was used in many films. I remember my sister telling me Whitney Houston had a girlfriend, Tom Cruise was allegedly gay, and Mel Gibson had a girlfriend. This was when Mel was known as a father of 10, husband and devout Catholic. It all sounded so inconceivable and unimaginable back then.
I think we need to take this with a grain of salt. This photographer could just be trying to get her 15 minutes.
Yeah because it’s so hard to believe that Mel Gibson would be violent and verbally abusive towards a woman.
No, it’s not hard at all to believe it, that’s why I’ll wait for more evidence. I’m not defending Mel, just unsure about the source, so to speak.
Yeah, where are all the witnesses backing up her story? This happened in a busy place, during a film festival.
The only eyewitness so far (Eitan Bienstock) says he didn’t see a push, and they stood close together. The eyewitness described Gibson as calm and not “vocal” (at some point, it’s not clear when), and the photographer as upset afterwards.
Exactly! We’ll wait and see…..
mel’s 24 year old GF is an IDIOT for being with him. he’s a washed up old fool and is probably an out of control raging drunk.
OR perhaps she is a damaged young woman subconsciously seeking these types of men, and maybe what she needs is compassion as she figures it out?
or not.
Clearly flew right over your head. Women who end up with these types are not “idiots”. Ok, maybe in the world where humans are not complex beings moulded by experiences often outside of their control, they are. I assume in that world, the houses are made of chocolate and the clouds are just fluffy candy floss. In the real world we are all products of our environment, we can only hope to figure out the negative aspects early in life. Most women dont, and some even walk into life threatening relationships oblivious of WHY that guy is so irresistable to them or WHY they will believe any excuse for his actions.
Branding a person already in that situation “idiot”, is the real idiocy. It makes it harder for them to speak about their situation and ultimately leave it. If you know you have been branded an idiot for getting with him in the first place, why would you think you will find support for speaking out or leaving. Empathy isnt just a word…
His new girlfriend seems quite nice – way too good for him!!! (Based on what I’ve read and heard about him).
Why are Andrew Garfield, Vince Vaughn, and Sam Worthington doing a movie with Mel Gibson? None of them are poor, they are all working (admittedly the quality varies, but they are working).
Am I missing how this is a good idea?
He is a great Oscar winning director. I hope his new film is going to be good.
But unfortunately enough his “crazy” acts are all people are talking about and the Media makes sure we don’t forget about it.
No one in Hollywood cares about anything except the bottom line. Plus they’re actors. These people will drop their pants and bend over to work with Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, Sean Penn, etc. These are the ones we know about too. Imagine what we don’t know.
Well this is Australia I am sure they have CCTV, people who are temperamental and crazy like Mel,Alex Baldwin,Kanye etc (not excusing their past behavior) but they are also targeted especially by photographers because they will blow up and get sued and its someone’s pay day.
must has been typing my post as your’s came up and said pretty much the same thing – in a far more long winded way – obviously!
What an ugly, angry man. That girl is a fool.
He is so vile. You just know by the way that this journo described his girlfriend’s reaction to the altercation that this behavior is nothing new to her.
Yes. I wonder what happened when they were alone. He seems like the type who would lash out at her for interfering. Scary.
Can’t stand this bloke, but at least he’s an equal opportunities bigot/raving misogynist and while I can totally believe he WOULD shove and spit are there independent witnesses to prove that he did? Because of his past record (as Kiddo pointed out above) he is now a target for journalists to shout abuse at him knowing full well it’s Mad (as a box of Frogs) Mel and they’ll get a reaction. A situation entirely of his own making, I know, but just saying that’s what some journalists do.
Did his wife (first wife I think, anyway longest relationship) Robin ever say that he abused her? It would be hard to imagine that he didn’t.
I agree with you, Kiddo. People will believe her whether it’s true or not. It’s a lot like the Cosby situation. I completely believe that he raped at least most of those 50 women, but I don’t know if every one individually is telling the truth. Does that make sense?
I don’t feel sorry for Mel or Cosby either one. They dug themselves into these pits. And I have to admit I believe all the accusers over them.
I’m sure there’s a nice old non-disclosure agreement to go go with her big fat divorce settlement.
Now, let’s watch Whoopi Goldberg continue to defend him (as she has in the past) and just like she did Cosby.
It surprised me that Jodie Foster defended him so strongly. http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2011/04/jodie-foster-vehemently-defends-mel-gibson/1#.Vdx2xiVViko I admired her loyalty (I guess) but his behaviour has been pretty indefensible. Maybe it was because she’d made a film with him?
They’re friends. Mel is friends with Robert Downey Jr too.
I must be a terrible friend then because if a friend of mine behaved like that they wouldn’t be a friend for long. If he had serious mental health issues (I’ve often thought he might be bi-polar) that might put a different slant on things but in the absence of a da*n good reason for such behaviour I wouldn’t want to know.
@Frisbee
1/The rumor is that Gibson is the sperm donor of Jodie Foster’s sons.
2/ contrary to you and me,Jodie and RDJ know really Gibson .
@ DKMIF true, neither of us know him and you’re inferring that as they do there must be a reason why they are loyal to him. I seem to remember he was supportive of RDJ and his addiction problems and hired him to do Air America when no-one else would.
If his behaviour is due to mental health issues surely he’d get more sympathy/support if he just owned it? I’m thinking of Stephen Fry a UK actor/comedian/writer and all around National Treasure (whom you probably haven’t heard of!) who is Bi-polar and has done a lot to highlight the problems of the condition and increased public understanding as a result.
To be honest I can understand Gibson. Not even celebrities should have to endure being photographed everywhere and anywhere doing the most profane things like grocery shopping or window shopping. Celebrities have rights, too, and nobody needs to know where Gibson buys his groceries or where he does his window shopping.
Anglosaxon countries should reconsider their rights to privacy.
In most european countries it is simple to forbid people to photograph celebrities doing everyday things. As a result the celebrities can live a more relaxed life and don’t have camera flashlights flashing into their faces whenever they go out. Celebrities and public office holders can get pictured in Europe anytime when they do something that is of importance to the general public. But everday business is not of importance to the general public and so no pics then.
If all he had done was get frustrated and yell leave me alone and left. I would agree. A celeb yelling and asking to be left alone I take no issue with. A celeb getting violent and being misogynistic and downright awful who has a history of this kind of behavior….yeah no. You’re at fault. It’s an unfortunate reality that you have to deal with people doing this for THEIR living. Just like you get paid handsomely and get fawned and praised for yours. You can absolutely complain, but guess what you gotta learn to deal with it too in an appropriate way. Unfair? Yup. Tell that to doctor’s, teachers, nurses, etc that have to deal with this bs on a regular basis. I’m really tired of the sympathy these men get.
“Anglosaxon countries should reconsider their rights to privacy.”
And what the heck is this?
“Anglosaxon countries should reconsider their rights to privacy.”
No but seriously…. HUH?
We don’t know if this is true or not, so I’ll refrain from concluding so. I just hope this nut is on medication now because I still remember how scary he can get.
Where did all these Gibson supporters come from?? Why are you all so passionately backing a raging misogynistic racist anti-Semite?
WORD.
They’ve been here since I started commenting 5 years ago. They always come out of the woodwork and they have the same pattern: put the onus and blame on Gibson’s latest abuser. If that doesn’t work, then it’s “he’s an alcoholic who needs help”.
*Gibson’s latest “abuse”. Sigh.
In other news, water is wet.
I believe most any behaving badly story about Mel Gibson.
While there are many entitled, obnoxious, douche-canoe actors and actresses that act badly in Hollywood, I find it really weird that many people look at him as the same as the rest. Everytime I see a story about him it looks like he is mentally ill. Bipolar, manic, basically one step below and a drug addiction away from being Charlie Sheen. Maybe with some dementia in the mix.
I’m not excusing him, I just wish that something would happen where he would get some serious intense treatment and observation.
I don’t think he was a nasty guy pretending to be apple pie when he was younger, I think he probably had little outbursts occasionally, which were smoothed over by his wife; then he would go back to his good self, practically forgetting how he acted.
Obviously I have been around some toxic-like behaviors like that. The people I know that are like this are genuinely GOOD, but can get downright vile sometimes. If their vile actions where publicized they would be ‘known’ as just nasty people, but the fact is that they aren’t. They have some sort of personality disorder, mental illness with a good dose of ignorance and aging mixed in.
I know he is DIFFERENT from Amanda Bynes, but everytime I hear a story about him, it makes me think of her.
Am I the only one?
Also, it’s sort of odd to expect a mentally ill person to acknowledge that they are indeed mentally ill. Yes, some do, but I think so many people are so far gone that they would never believe that they are ill.
Ok but did mental illness cause him to become misogynistic, anti-Semitic and racist?
….or did being raised by a father who doesn’t think the Holocaust happened and said this gem about Pope John Paul II: “The whole bunch at the top, if they’re not outright queer, they’re supportive of it” have something to do with Mel’s attitude?
I mean look, lots of people have mental issues–that doesn’t automatically make them intolerant people, you know? Look at his withered face—that’s not just the affects of alcohol, that’s years of hatred taking its toll.
Personally, I think what Gibson has is very deep-seated anger issues that are likely a result of behavior that was modeled to him by a domineering father. He also has a violent temper and an inability to control it…combine that with alcoholism and you have a recipe for disaster.
I have no doubt that his father is fertile soil that affected Gibson. But I don’t see how that somehow rules out a mental illness. To me, he is mentally ill and has ready-made ‘crazy’ set of beliefs his dad gave him.
My own personal theory is that when he was young he didn’t give a flying shit about whatever his dad spouted. He probably rebelled against it because it sounds so restricting and constraining. I DOUBT that his happy-go-lucky younger self was cared about the Pope, Jewish people or anything like that. He probably was a pretty decent person to people that he came into contact with (those that attest to it show a history of him being good), not because he could see into the future and figured out he needed to smooze the soon the be famous and hide is TRUE SELF. He did it because he was a good person, and he probably had to work at it because he was raised not to be a decent man.
(My own personal experience is being raised by crazy and narcissistic, and I scare myself remembering how easily influenced I was by them growing up. Sometimes it’s hard being good if you don’t know what it’s all about.)
Anyway, I see his showing more and more signs of mental illness, dementia, whatever and latching on to whatever fertile ground his dad had laid out for him. I just don’t see how ‘far out’ my theory is?
As for him being violent, I have a great aunt that started being violent when she started living in a retirement home. She never displayed it before and I seriously doubt that was her SECRET home life. It just happened as she aged and some early Alzheimer’s hit.
I don’t think he’s too young for dementia, I think he has multiple shit going on and has been steadily building up for a while.
I have also personally experienced people with dementia or get on medication that changes how they act, believe, etc. An otherwise sweet person would start having crazy nasty things come from their mouth that they never even thought before.
I am NOT excusing his actions. I just don’t buy that his ‘bigotedness?’ was always bubbling under the surface. I think his brain went sideways and probably no one is going to be able to fix it.
I don’t think he’s like a narcissist or sociopath that can front and reel people in while taking pleasure of all the nastiness that they do. I think he’s just messed up.
@ guest. I can understand what you are saying and have thought he might be bi-polar myself BUT in retrospect given how Hollywood loves a ‘journey’ a ‘reformed character’ and a ‘struggle overcome’ – like RDJ for example – if Gibson really did have serious mental health issues it seems likely he would own up to them if only for the sake of his career. I have no doubt he does want his career back, he’s too much of an egoist not to and nothing would put him back on track as fast as the whole bad man/turned good public confessional schtick. RDJ’s career has massively revived despite his multiple arrests for substance misuse and at least one for falling asleep in the wrong house in a child’s bed. Gibson’s past record as an Oscar winner/money maker would help usher him back into the fold and I can see Hollywood falling over themselves to forgive and forget. They can do it for Woody Allen and Polanski they can do it for Gibson.
I have to disagree that his ‘bigotedness’ was NOT under the surface. Bi-polar disorder tends to magnify characteristics that already exist, on the ‘up’ part of the cycle it removes inhibitions entirely and characteristics that may well be totally unacceptable such as racism, bigotry, misogyny can emerge in the midst of an ‘episode’. If his behaviour is a result of Bi-polar disorder its more likely to be because he’s a pretty appalling person or else everyone suffering from Bi-P would be just as objectionable as he is, and they are usually not. Right that’s it. It’s late here and I’m off the bed.
And OHEMGEE! He and the GF were coming out of an Israeli film festival?!?!!?!? That’s what THR is reporting.
He is a loathsome individual…that is all.
He’s always been like this. He said tons of insanely misogynistic and homophobic things in even his earliest interviews, it’s just that that happened before the internet so it could easily be swept under the carpet. A few of those awful quotes are still hanging around, but most were published in the kind of magazines people don’t archive, so he’s gotten away with the worst of it.
He’s always been aggressive, in Australia before he was really famous he was known for getting into really violent fights on set, in bars etc.
A few people in the industry have said he was saying Anti-Semitic things decades ago. Winona Ryder has said he called her an ‘oven-dodger’ at a party 20 years ago.
He had a litter of kids and built his own church because he couldn’t find one extremist enough for him. In a different world he’d have a show on TLC.
He may have some mental issues, who knows, but if he does he’s had them from early adult-hood. He hasn’t changed, the media has changed. The incident in 2004 wasn’t the first time he’s gone on a drunken rant like that, it was just the first time it was caught on video and leaked. If he’d done the exact same thing 15 years earlier, at worst there’d be rare copies of it floating around and rumours, but the vast majority of people never would have heard about it and his career would have gone on as normal.
Anyone else think it’s interesting that Mel is evidently relatively okay with paps (the articles infer plural) on the weekend but just one day later allegedly goes ballistic on a single, female photographer?
Could it be the paps on Sunday were all male?
Could his explosion have been exacerbated by the idea that his limited space was being invaded by a -gasp- FEMALE pap?
I just find it interesting. The location on Monday appears to be more crowded and high pressure (busy road nearby, more in-town density) which could have amped him up as well.
You make a very good point. Bullies like to pick unfair fights where they have a clear advantage.
Yelling at a group of paps on Sunday would have been pointless & he would have looked like a hot-head, the whole thing captured by multiple paps. Plus even he’s smart to know the benefit of some ‘nice’ pics and good publicity.
Physically attacking & verbally abusing a lone female photographer is a very unequal battle…and the kind a bully would pick.
Gibson is a delusional rage monster that is never going away or facing the consequences of his behavior until people stop feeding the machine. Pray with your feet, people. Stop spending money on him. Period. No movies, magazines…dry up the cash flow.
Those pics of him and his new gf in The DM are seriously creepy. He could pass for her granddad. Creepy. Mel has not been mentally well for some time. Those leaked transcripts by Oksana G are very telling. Yes, he’s homophobic and anti-Semitic, but he’s also mentally unbalanced. Seek help, Mel. This guy needs our censure and a little compassion.
The Passion of the Christ has got nothing on The Passion of the Kitten on this thread.
Innocent until proven guilty I say. It’s not perfect but it’s better than the alternative.
My take on this whole thing is that….if you’re going to photograph someone and they don’t want their photo taken by you (simply because they want their privacy like us normal folks ), don’t expect them not to yell and scream at you since they can’t really punch you or take your device away and smash it.
I’m not a celebrity but if I was getting photographed by a stranger while crossing a street, I’d be infuriated too! These days, there’s no such thing as privacy any longer with everyone holding a device in their hands ready to record or take a picture.
Just a few days ago, I drove pass a car accident and there were at least 5 regular bystanders recording the entire incident as though they were the news reporters. It is getting ridiculous!