I actually think this might be the most sympathetic victim of the Ashley Madison Hack so far. I mean, Anna Duggar is sympathetic, but any sympathy towards her was bulldozed by the overwhelming desire to call out Josh Duggar and his family for their rank hypocrisy. But this case actually feels a little sad. As it turns out, Snooki Polizzi’s husband Jionni had an account on Ashley Madison. Probably. Maybe.
Nicole “Snooki” Polizzi’s husband, Jionni LaValle, may have had an Ashley Madison account. The email address of the Jersey Shore star’s hubby matches one that was used for an account on the affair website, Us Weekly has discovered.
As previously reported, hackers last week released stolen information of more than 37 million subscribers to the Canada-based website, which links married men and women looking to have extramarital affairs.
The hack is under investigation by the Toronto Police Department after two possible suicides are reported to be potentially connected to the leak. The release of the stolen subscriber data has tied other famous names to the controversial website. TLC’s 19 Kids and Counting alum Josh Duggar admitted on Thursday, Aug. 20, to cheating on his wife, Anna Duggar; Real Housewives of New York City star Kristen Taekman’s husband, Josh, had his email address used for an account but denied that it was his; and Christian blogger Sam Rader admitted that he had used the website, but never cheated. Louisiana GOP executive director Jason Doré’s information was also included in the leak, but he said he used the account to research his political opponents.
In January, Snooki, 27, shot down rumors that LaValle, 28, was cheating on her. “My man ain’t goin’ nowhere #shady,” she tweeted following a report that her husband had flirted and exchanged numbers while out with a woman in Florida.
The longtime couple said “I do” in November 2014. Together they shares kids Lorenzo, 2, and Giovanna, 10 months.
What’s really starting to bother me is the fact that so many of these men were signing up for Ashley Madison when their wives/partners were pregnant or had just given birth. It’s such a nightmare. Anyway, I don’t know much about Jionni but I’m sure he’ll be able to give some kind of excuse like “I had an account but I was only looking, I never met anybody!”
Here are some photos of Snooki at the Chippendales show in Las Vegas over the weekend. Her whole face has changed, right?
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
Ruh roh!!!!!!!
I read today that AM has been around since 2001. Theoretically someone could have registered at any time in the past 14 years and they would still show up on that list.
I don’t think it’s fair. Looking does not equal doing. It could have happened many years before meeting your spouse. And your life could be ruined.
The problem with that though is that it’s specifically for married people, so a single man/woman (but mostly man based on their data) wouldn’t have been on it at all before being married.
I Love that you’re still writing about Snooki – I like her. Unfortunately I dont think she’ll leave him. She doesnt have enough self-esteem.
I think is so childish to think that an affair (IF he really had an affair) is THE reason to throw away a marriage in the dumpster. Everybody makes mistakes and if the guy is a good partner and good father, why not forgive and forget? (As long as he doesn’t commit the same mistake again and again and…) Marriage is hard as it is and life is short to be so resentful.
Because there’s a difference between accidentally, and going through the steps to “create an account “
As far as the Internet goes sites like Reddit are filled with people confessing to the Ashley Maddison leak being their husband or wife’s 2ND strike.
Marriage is hard and life is short, imagine how they feel now when they could have moved on and been at peace much sooner. Cheating speaks to a lack of control and a way of dealing with problems that won’t likely go away.
The Eternal Side-Eye i really like your comment and agree with almost everything you said. i just disagree with the “time wasted” mentality; i believe that everything happens for a reason (biggest cliche ever, i know), and if the relationship brought kids and happiness to the family, that’s what people should focus on and move on (with or without that partner). yolanda vanzant once said that people love to be addicted to their story and i agree, i think a lot of people love to play the victim in situation like this.
How is it that childish? An affair is absolutely a valid reason to divorce. It’s deceitful, sneaky, and I’m sure makes the cheated feel worthless and awful. Anyone who would do that to you doesn’t really love you or deserve you.
Let me point out that the only difference between some of those people caught on Ashley Madison and a lot of marriages is opportunity.
there is no “accidentally” when it comes to unfaithfulness. there is no “ops, my penis just fell into this woman’s vagina”. people are unfaithful because something is wrong (either is in the marriage or in their own head), but there is no accident. it’s so naive to think otherwise.
I agree with almost everything you said but I don’t think anything has to be wrong with a relationship for someone to cheat. I think some people are just plain weak and/or selfish.
Because it is the ultimate betrayal and cheating on the spouse is a sign of disrespect to the other spouse and any children they may have. Plus who knows what kind of diseases are passed on to the innocent spouse. It is all disgusting!
The world has gone mad, people really signing up to have affairs and think it will never be exposed.
I know, right? And on the internet, infamous for all sorts of leaks. A page like that was bound to be exposed eventually, and even the loudest advocates for online privacy will not be as loud in the case of systematised cheaters.
Also, it surprises me how widespread this seemed to be. Why not just find somebody locally in person? I know it’s dangerous but don’t tell me this page didn’t have trolls and curiosity lurkers either?
I’m wondering that too. It’s so………… premeditated. Even if your partner never met anyone from the site, they were actively looking to do so. Some of these men seem older, and belong to the same generation as tends to post “I hereby forbid Facebook from blah blah blah” in their status thinking that does something. Others, well, I guess they must just be stupid. If it’s on the internet, someone can find it. Forever.
@Wren actually, yeah, I hadn’t thought about it before but the premeditation that had to go into having an Ashley Madison account is almost worse than a drunken and spontaneous fumble with another person. At least a drunken mistake is a spur of the moment, impulse thing, it wouldn’t require actively finding a site, forking over your credit card details and perusing pages of potential infidelity while your other half was in the next room. Gah! Yuck! How did this become grosser?!
I think what is odder is that the exposure won’t change their lives much. I don’t think people need to be punished, but I think that the vast majority of folks caught up in this will stay married and keep cheating. The bar seems to be set so low now.
True.
Kristen Taekman on RHONY… her husband too. Not surprising from what we’ve seen on the show, but I feel sorry for her. I know she really tried with him.
I think pretty much any male who appeared on a reality show is going to pop up on Ashley Madison!
Kristen’s husband is a jerk, so I guess not surprising, but sad for her. I remember a scene where she was getting ready to model for something (she looked great and had a young baby), and he made some comment about her having a “pooch”. Prick.
That is sad. I feel for her, but as I’ve said before, it hurts like anything, but it’s better to know the truth.
If your husband signed up for one of these accounts, there is no hope that he won’t cheat. It’s not like he got drunk at the office party and one thing led to another. This was planned and paid for. So gross.
…and what Kaiser said about many of these men having wives who just gave birth–that was the first thing I noticed as well.
I wonder if some men just get so impatient or frustrated trying to accept the idea that now that a baby is in the picture, they’re no longer the center of their wife’s life. That, plus there are all the hormonal changes that women experience post-birth, ie maybe they’re not in the mood for intimacy of whatever.
Maybe that’s how these men justify their cheating—they just tell themselves that if they can’t get what they want at home, they’ll get it elsewhere.
It’s all so gross and sad.
What women go through to have a child–the discomfort of carrying for nine months and then the pain of birth…The very least they should be able to expect from their husbands is loyalty.
This stuff really depresses me…
Research confirms that around the time of having newborns/young children is a common time for men to wander.
It is gross. There are so many hormonal changes plus throw in breast feeding and I really did not feel like my body was my own for sometime after having both of my children.
These men are selfish pricks.
Plus, as my friend so succinctly put it “not really DTF when I’ve had a baby yarding at the tit all day”.
One of my best guy friends told me he felt so shunned after the birth of his first born, as if baby momma chose the son over him. It was so ridiculous, I couldn’t believe his ego was so fragile that he was jealous of his own kid. Annnnd shortly after he started career cheating. Lame ass.
I’m having a baby in eight weeks. I trust my husband, but nonetheless all this news has made me think of trying to find the AM searchable data just because it’s there. Curious whether any celebitches have done the search?
Size, it seems like you havering been pg foreverrrr!
@Coconut: Do you suppose it is primal instinct kicking in? One woman successfully with child, time now to go impregnate another? No doubt by dragging her by her hair back to his cave.
It is gross and sad. It’s also human nature. Kids go through the same thing when a younger sibling comes along. Suddenly you’re displaced and it sucks. A lot of men also feel really helpless around babies, scared they’ll hurt them, etc. That too drives them away to seek comfort in a manner they’re more familiar with, like sex. Combine those pressures with, say, a weak personality or poor impulse control and there you go.
I’m not excusing such behavior in any way, I just find it fascinating and I always think it helps to figure out why something is happening.
@Crumpet, have you heard about The Science of Sex on the Discovery channel? They monitored hormones of couples in LTRs, and all the feel good stuff lasts about 18 months, postulating that it’s just long enough to procreate and then bounce to another womb. They did other studies too, like put an ovulating woman in an empty room, removed her and let men in, and the men all wanted to sit where the ovulating woman had. And so much more! I highly recommend it.*
*Ultimate (clinical) analysis is that humans are not wired for monogamous relationships.
I have a couple of friends whose husbands cheated while they were pregnant and right after the baby. Just my opinion, but I think neither of them was ready for a baby and it made them feel old. Both were immature, playboy types who thought their wives were lucky to have landed them. Then when the wives got pregnant, it was just to much for them to handle, and they wanted a taste of the old, carefree life. Douche bags, the both of them.
I feel bad for some people that might be innocent because a lot of details about this are getting lost. People looking into this have pointed out a few things: AM wasn’t pushed as a cheating site in the beginning. It was a regular dating site. It became pushed as a dating site just in the last few years so partners should probably consider the date of the signup before jumping to conclusions.
Secondly, a lot of those emails were bots entering real email addresses for spam accounts. If it’s just an email signup, it may not signify cheating. If information was entered beyond that, such as a credit card, security question, address, age, etc., then it would be more obvious that the person’s email wasn’t just used by a bot, but they personally really did use the site.
I used to work at a hospital, and quickly figured out I could assume a guy hitting on me was wandering away from the maternity ward in search of distraction.
@Size – yes, tried a personal email of DH – thankfully, nothing. I can’t remember prior work emails or I would have plugged those in as well. Yes, former infidelity issues with him. 🙁
Not defending cheaters but standing up for the men folk here, after a baby your relationship changes hugely. BOTH parties can feel unsettled, displaced and unsure of what’s happening or their future. Truthfully I felt like this after both my pregnancies and if I could have had a wandering eye straight after birth I probably would have. Nothing to do with sex or a weak sex life but just to escape from the emotional uncertainty that cruelly accompanies one of the biggest events a couple can go through. I don’t how or why it happens but we thought it would be something that would bring us closer together and instead we ended up strangers living in the same house.
You come out of it, if you work at it, talk about it, make sure both parties want to retrieve what you used to have but yeah, it was weird, for both of us. I can see why people cheat during that period, and it’s always the evil-man-bastard because no one is going to go on the pull with lactating boobs and stitches healing in your ‘fun zone’ (aka ‘mommy’).
I hate to say this, but most men are just grown children. A guy friend complained to me about trying to talk his wife into having sex with him more while she was pregnant with baby #2, once #2 came along he felt neglected etc. She complained to me he played video games when baby #1 was around and never helped out. A lot of men cannot handle not being the center of attention. Scott Disick comes to mind (although they have other issues too). I also have another friend whose husband left her with a 2 and eight month old for a waitress—he just couldn’t handle family life even though he was 35 and had been with her 10+ years! Ashley Madison is just exposing more famous people, but this happens all the time. A baby changes even the strongest of marriages.
A recent, big german study showed that having a baby caused a bigger dip in peoples perceived happiness than any other event. The study subjects were asked to grade their happiness once a year for quite some time. On average, a person who had a baby experienced almost 20% less happiness than they did the year before, which was worse than for people who had lost a family member or a job.
All of my friends who has babies complain constantly. I don’t think they are aware themselves. One girlfriend is angry because the moment they had a baby, her man was jealous of it and started flirting with other women. She now worries he cheats.
So, so gross. I need to plug my ears and stop listening whenever the discussion turns to Ashley Madison. As a human bean in my early 20s, it’s really disheartening to hear about.
*grabs scrunchie and puts on leg warmers*
Where have all the good men gone, and where are all the gods? Where’s the streetwise Heracles to fight the rising odds?
*air punch*
Isn’t there a white niiiiiight upon a firey steed? Late at night, I toss and turn and I dream of what I neeeeeed…
Human Bean.
Adorable.
If that song gets stuck in my head today, I’m coming after you Little Bean.
Awww….my dad used to call me his little human bean….now I’m missing him….
Officially heart you Shambles!
Dis bean lurvs you guys. Mimif, I would understand if you did. It’s already stuck in my head.
Do do do doooo… Do do do dooo… Do do do doooo… AHHHHH, AHHHH….
Go ahead and come after me. I’ll have margaritas waiting.
I’M HOLDING OUT FOR A RITA!
IT’S GOTTA BE STRONG AND IT’S GOTTA BE SALTED AND IT’S GOTTA BE LARGER THAN LIFE
Love that song! I’m going to have it running through my head all day long so merci for that.
You’re one of my favorite human beans. ❤️
Wuv you GNAT-bean.
“Late at night I toss and I turn and I DREAM OF WHAT I NEEEEEEEEEED”
All.Day.Long!
Does anyone know where to search the AM data dump? I tried to find the list for sh!ts and giggles and couldn’t.
you can search by email address on this site https://ashley.cynic.al/
Do not use the trustify site to check, they are contacting people that do saying that your details are compromised and it will affect your relationships and employment, reddit has a thread on this.
I would be worried about using any of those search engines.
I haven’t looked up anyone but I’ve seen the link posted above as being the one people are using.
You know what else is fun to do, in a totally creepy way? Check out court view/your state and search court cases by name.
And that’s all I’m gonna say about that.
SAY MORE.
I almost didn’t post that because it is fairly creeptastic! Okay so it doesn’t work for all states, and some states have their own county division. But search “courtview -your state-” (doesn’t always work on mobile) and you should get an option to search court cases by number or name. I’ll get on my comp and show you an example.
For example (unfortunately this service is down today, but it works for other states as well): http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/eservices/home.page.2#
See bottom middle left “Search Cases”, then you just enter name (last, first) and BOOYA. My gf who works for one of the legislators in AK turned me on to it, she discovered so.much.dirt on her co-workers, it was crazy.
I’ve ccap-ed before (boyfriends, exes, and onto friends and family because it’s a wormhole) and sometimes you find out things you definitely didn’t need to know. Tread carefully
An ex-coworker got caught trying to hook up with a fifteen year old in a chatroom. His appeal is available for the world to see and we found out he was having sex with fifteen year olds in the office yet for whatever reason, we never even noticed he was anything other than a pompous ass.
Talk about sunnydale syndrome.
Maryland has a pretty detailed and easy to use court case search called the Maryland Judiciary Case search. People I know on dating sites and employers who are hiring use it all the time.
Damn PeanutButter, that is something to know.
I remember an interview with Nicole where I came away liking her a little bit.
She had a realistic view on the show, the aftermath and her 15 minutes. She also talked about being careful with her money and not being in a The Situation situation.
She is not dumb, the rumors have been around for years. What does suck it the kids will read about it in a decade.
Haha @ the Situation situation. From seeing her on interviews, she really does seem to have a good head on her shoulders ( these days, I’m not sure whose head because I totally didn’t recognize her), but none the less, this is sad news.
Sigh. It makes me want to never get married or have kids.
+1 – stories like this make it seem pointless especially after Kaiser pointed out that these men often signed up when there wives were pregnant or just given birth – wtf!
Nah…nah…get married have kids if you can afford to. The partnership is great and the kids add a focus and purpose to your life. It is good to work at something worthwhile and fun. Marriage can be those things.
My husband can attest that any man that gets *jealous* of his newborn getting so much attention is a loser! My man says he feels good when I spend time with the children and I feel the same way. When he plays with them it makes me so happy…not jealous that the attention isn’t on me! Because I love my kids more than me.
So basically these losers don’t love their babies more than themselves because if they did they would not feel this way. So don’t worry, plenty of mature men out there that aren’t jealous of a baby!
@kitten I think with almost all the “celebrities” that have been outed, there have been red flags already about the relationship. There had been rumors about Jionni for awhile. So, just don’t marry if you have any doubts at all about trust levels. It may seem like it, but really not all guys are cheaters.
I know.
I just recently told my friend when they were wondering about my single status (again) that I could see myself as a 30-something married mother, but I don’t want to be 40-something divorced single mom after my husband gets bored and runs off with a younger model or has an affair.
Currently I don’t feel the risk is worth it. Maybe I just haven’t met the right man but so many women have been betrayed by their Mr. Right, so who knows. Depressing…
eh. I think it’s proof that if you marry a jerk, he’s gonna be a jerk. (Using “jerk” instead of my preferred language.) So far none of these revelations have been SHOCKING. These are all unlikable people in the public eye, most of whom became famous for their bad behavior.
I’m not going to claim my husband is perfect (because that’s asking for it), but he LOVES pregnancy. Feeling for the baby’s kicks, etc. Pregnancy is a hard time but it can also be magical and can knit a stronger marriage at points.
This so far. It’s a lot of guys that were practically living in the shade who you’d bite your tongue if a friend or family member hooked up with. It’s also sadly a lot of guys on their ‘2nd chance’ who women have forgiven or denied cheating rumors about them.
Isn’t it great to live in a time when we can make that choice as women? The older I become realize, more and more, I’m actually happy as a single & marriage is a fleeting thought rather than an actual plan. Felt pressured for years to do it because its what you’re supposed to do, what everyone else does. People always saying kids are worth, marriage will make you so HAPPPY, they will make you happy, promise! Its gives you purpose & meaning, so sick of people saying its what gives meaning. f* that I’m over it. I love love being single.
Cheating is one of the worst things you can do to someone. It rips your whole being apart and changes everything when that news is dropped on you. So I feel horrible for anyone who finds out their SO had or is actively having an affair. I’m just so sick of people being so damn self centered that they only think about themselves and not who else will be impacted and devastated by their selfish decision. And to cheat when your spouse is pregnant. Really? Please. This Ashley Madison thing is only pointing out what people have been doing for years and years and it’s so sad and really pathetic.
Sad but true, a douchy guy doesn’t change just because he’s gotten married and had a child.
These men were desperate for sex by any means necessary and when their wives were dealing with new babies and life changing events they were still thinking “ME, ME, ME” with their dongs.
I’ve also noticed a trend of it being guys who have really trumpeted up their new “FAITHFUL BEST HUSBAND EVER” reputation and women who have (at least for celebrities) really publicly used their relationships as a positive turning point for themselves. Sad and messy, I hope some folks don’t play dumb and keep denying it to themselves.
Get tested for STD’s ladies and for once don’t believe the excuses.
That’s what gets me too Side Eye! Beyond the pregnancy/newborn angle, sooo many of these dudes are completely staunch right siders who preach God, and commitment, they tout their marriage as holy and something to be cherished (usually fighting against equal rights) and then they wind up being the lowest of the dogs. All that repression I guess.
This whole thing kind of blows me away. Literally cannot wrap my mind around people subscribing to a website, paying good money, to have an affair. What else comes with said affair? Are they paying for sex or for an extramarital relationship? Also, is AM a porn site too? That one guy mentioned a porn addiction.
It’s called deflection. Basically, the more you talk about how good you are, the less likely people will suspect you of wrongdoing. That used to be true, but now, the internet makes that much harder. But it’s a classic thing in psychology.
This is yet another example of those that yell the loudest about something have the most to hide. They’re trying to convince you so hard of something, and for why? If it was true it wouldn’t need to be rammed down your throat.
I’ve found this theory to be surprisingly (and depressingly) accurate.
‘I was on it but I didn’t meet anybody’ seems to be turning into the standard excuse for people exposed. There are reports that the proportion of men to women on the site was 90/10 so it’s not beyond the bounds of possibility. It still leaves the fact that these people signed up with the intention of cheating – and that would be enough to send me ballistic and then running for the hills tbh.
as you say just by the ratio and keeping in mind lots of those female accounts were to keep the males in its very likely that most of them never had any affair. They obviously still did most of what is considered cheating, at least they didnt get any STDs from it.
just like the joke about this whole thing “The AM hack is the first time the people on there are getting f**ked because of it”
I’m a bad, bad person, I laughed at that joke…
Someone used my email account last year to sign up for Kettle of Fish–I keep getting emails about matches, tried going to the site to get rid of it but couldn’t log on, got frustrated and gave up. It’s certainly possible, if not probable… but the credit card rects don’t lie.
One of my male friends signed up AM for a human sexuality project he was doing for school. He’s not married but had a GF and she was aware of it too. He did say that there are actually quite a few unmarried females (mostly males tho) that sign up usually for a guaranteed fling when they travel to different cities. Some people just don’t want a relationship and don’t mind hooking up with @ssholes who are hell-bent on wrecking theirs.
Were there women on the site to meet?
I just keep reading about shady men.
Apparently the ratio was 90/10 and one reporter who signed up under the pretense of pretending to be a woman said it was like being a piece of meat and having desperate horny dudes compete with each other for just the chance of a hook up.
I’m guessing a lot of dudes didn’t cheat because when pics were exchanged the girls laughed and hooked up with ‘hotter’ guys, not because they weren’t willing to cheat with a stranger.
Thank you! I have been thinking the exact same thing!
Yes there was, but to my knowledge known of the women or married/dating anyone famous which is why they aren’t talked about.
its mostly men, just like most dating sites. women have other means and mostly cheat with people they personally know.
which is the funny thing about this most of the men signed up there never cheated, there are just not enough women there, even if the women there had sex with thousands of men.
so they signed up, paid and ruined their marriages for not even having sex with someone else.
I was under the impression that the women were professionals, and that some of the female accounts were dummy accounts. I was also under the impression that the men were looking for model types, so real women need not apply.
A woman in Canada wrote that she was paid by AM to make up ,and write profiles for, 500 fake women.
That was you that was wasn’t it – your’e brilliant at making things up – gotcha!
Wasn’t the account info released to prove that AM is a scam and “cheating” men out of their money, since there aren’t any women on there?
it seems to be mostly that, you could also not delete your profile you had to pay for that. really shady.
This is who a high percentage of men really are: cheaters. It’s very sad
if a high percentage of men are cheaters so must a high percentage of women. it just doesnt work out otherwise. women just are better at hiding cheating. there is no real gender gap when it comes to infidelity.
But many married men cheat with single women. So that doesn’t mean cheating is equal because the number of men is high. It also skews the actual numbers because many count the counter part of an affair whether she’s single or not.
Had a look at this and stats from April 2015 suggest that 22% of married men have cheated and 14% of women. These were originally from Associated Press: The Journal of Marital and Family Therapy.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/infidelity-statistics/
The statistics for those people who say they would have an affair if they knew they wouldn’t get caught are interesting, 74% for men and 68% for women, that’s not a huge difference.
Would says its the same women cheating over and over again, or single women. Almost every study you read, the men vastly outweigh married women cheating.
Am I the only one on the planet who’d never heard of Ashley Madison before the hack?
I never heard of it before either.
Lucky you, the idea of the site has been pissing me off since 2009.
Years ago, I used to read the Craig’s list cheating ads for entertainment. Didn’t make me mad because these guys would describe exactly what they wanted, down to boob size, without offering anything in return. Pretty obvious not a lot of hookups were happening this way, which is probably true for AM, as well.
I never heard of it til the hacking news broke.
There were stories in the UK press about the advisability/morality of it before the hack eg: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/11542100/Everything-you-need-to-know-about-Ashley-Madison.html – This article was first published last May. When the site was opened in the UK I found it surprising that a number of commentators didn’t question the morality of people seeking affairs and instead were supportive of their right to privacy whilst they did. Ironic that the site was hacked.
Also ironic, THEY hacked another site with a similar business model. It came out in the data dump.
Always loved the domino effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E7Ep3U06Nc
i heard about it when i read an article about a man who founded a cheating website and his wife cheated on him with a man she met on that site lol.
You know what would be funny? If a husband and wife hooked up, by mistake, whilst trying to cheat on each other. I wonder if that ever happened.
Kiddo, if you like pina coladas, and getting caught in the rain, I have a story for you.
doofus FTW!
Nope. I hadn’t heard about it. People are really stupid thinking they can sign up for stuff like this on the internet and it’s going to remain PRIVATE. There is no privacy anymore, especially on the Internet.
No there isn’t which is quite scary in a way and anyone can be found by anybody. Google yourself and your address, phone, relatives and so on appear. It leaves everyone open and vulnerable. Privacy is a basic right which we have lost along the way. Technology is great for some things but at what cost? Have we lost more than we have gained?
^THIS^
^THAT^
I hadn’t either. I keep saying that I feel bad for anyone even compelled to check their partner’s email address.
Also, I do not believe for one second that any person on there was “checking out political opponents” or “doing it for a laugh” or “never would have met up with anyone.” Nope nope nope.
There have been occasions where someone on that site used other people’s email addresses. It happened to a woman, a guy used her name and email address. There was a story on The Intercept.
its true because you didnt need to verify your email thats why from the big media outlets ABC has the most in this mess because peopel used “ABC AT ABC DOT COM” as their email adress.
thats the other side you could easily sign someone up there and i mean its hard to believe your spouse someone else singed them up, especially with public pressure. that sucks.
there is also another interesting perspective posted on that site:
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/20/puritanical-glee-ashley-madison-hack/
I just saw that, will go back and read it later, Ronda.
I checked just for funsies, I knew my husband wouldn’t be on there and he wasn’t (even if he had been I’d read enough to know it probably didn’t mean anything without further info). I checked my own email as well, turns out I didn’t cheat lol.
No, I hadn’t heard of it either until the hacking story popped.
Never heard of it, either.
Nope.
It had continuous running ads on the Howard Stern show for years and years. That’s how I heard of it.
I like her quite a lot, she’s her own woman and proud of who she is. She’s funny and loving. I’m heartbroken for her. What a blow. She deserves much better.
That outfit is unfortunate. As for her husband, probably maybe having an account, I feel sorry for her if it does come to light that this is true.
Ok but You guys started the sentence with : “Snooki Polizzi’s husband Jionni LaValle…” Once you say Snooki Polizzi’s Husband the latter part of the header is pretty much a foregone assumption TBH
I just don’t get why supposedly smart, successful men would randomly put their info out there on such a site. I mean, if they want to have an affair, do it the old fashioned way. A cheater is going to cheat regardless. At least don’t do it on public forum with hackers able to hack anything today and not knowing who you may really connect with…catfish show ring a bell?
Hell put your information out there if you’re that kind of douche but don’t use your professional/work email (especially a govt. email!!! Are people insane?)!
That’s taking an issue from private that will only destroy your personal life to: How to lose a job in 5 minutes.
I have felt sorry for Snooki since I read a piece that included an interview with her father. (I probably read it here!) Basically, her dad said that she didnt have much going for her. That made me incredibly sad, and I’ve been rooting for her ever since.
I think it’s great how Snooki has changed her life around. She’s a good mom and (was) seemingly very happy with her husband. Sad to hear he’s yet another sleaze ball. All of the men who signed up for this site are painfully dumb. There were barely any women on the site and many of the female profiles were fakes. Of course, they didn’t know that, but they were dumb and desperate enough to divulge personal info and credit card numbers.
The Internet opens doors to things that might not have happened before the technology age. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure that men who want to cheat will do it anyway, but stupid skanky sites like Ashley Madison certainly make it a lot easier, don’t they?
I feel very sorry for all of the women whose husbands have taken part in this.
If he did have an account, that’s still pretty tame compared to her past. They’ll stay together either way. Snooki LOOOOOOVES her some Jionni. She acts like she can’t breathe without him whenever they use to break up and that was before she had the kids with him and married him.
The whole Ashley Madison thing is intriguing. Who would sign up for something like that using real email addresses and credit cards that can traced directly to them? It’s a sad situation. I feel mostly bad for the kids that are involved.
On the other hand, there are open marriages where this sort of thing is no big deal and even encouraged.
What exactly do her past hookups that occurred well before she was with her husband have to do with anything?!?? She didn’t intend to cheat. He did.
“What’s really starting to bother me is the fact that so many of these men were signing up for Ashley Madison when their wives/partners were pregnant or had just given birth. It’s such a nightmare”
Have you seen Amy Schumer’s interview with the founder of Ashley Madison? He straight up SAYS that pregnancy and “getting fat” are two of the most popular reasons for husbands to use the service. Then Amy’s pregnant producer steps into the frame to call him out. It’s epic and he deserves it.
I think it’s a toxic mix. You have men who have been brought up with the message that sex should be easily accessible to them at all times, and if a woman declines for some reason, it’s okay to get it elsewhere. Then you also have the weird rise in the “attachment parents” thing, where parents are expected to be with the kids at all times (especially newborns).
When I had my daughter, my mother in law clued me into something (she’s not American, she’s Syrian). Men are raised with the understanding that there will be a period of time after birth that your wife simply won’t be accessible to you for that stuff (usually 30-60 days, depending on the birth). Once she feels up to it, relatives and friends will actually step in to help provide time off to allow a couple to “get to know each other” again. It’s just the cultural norm. And it’s so different from America. We don’t support new parents by stepping up to give them time together; we expect them to do it all themselves. Men get so many messages from society about being owed sex and how sex is essential to “being a man,” it’s ridiculous. I feel blessed that I have relatives who are outside of this whole mess.
(I also remember Camilla Alves talking about something similar in South America. There’s a 40 day period where a mother is just expected to focus on her baby and herself and once that is up, family are expected to help with the baby to allow the couple to experience intimacy again.)
You’ve hit the nail on the head. Men’s entitlement, pressure to be a perfect and ever-present parent, isolating cultural norms that don’t include family support, etc.
I’m so glad you’ve had a different experience. And it makes sense, because other countries have better child care resources too (even free child care in countries with far smaller GDPs). It seems we’re headed in the wrong direction; rather than correcting these problems and shifting our collective priorities, we’re getting more and more obsessed with perfection and success and independence.
This also reminds me of the stereotype of a man hiding his p0rn habit while his wife is “uninterested” in sex. Instead of being open about his needs — or, here’s an idea, focusing on hers and figuring out what she actually wants — they just assume the woman’s sex drive is lower and they have “needs” to fulfill and she would just be jealous and irrational about it if they found out anyway. It’s the same disconnected, damaging spirit that probably led to most of these accounts getting created. Instead of communication and honesty about sexuality, American men are conditioned to feel entitled and to be “rational” instead of emotional. They’re taught that marriage kills sex drives, that women stop caring once they’ve “landed” the man. DRIVES ME CRAZY.
Re: Brittney B.
So true. Most men can get an erection in about five seconds merely at the sight of a bare breast. Women are not wired the same way as men, most women need to be seduced in order to become aroused but men are so brain damaged by porn (or so lazy and entitled) that they just assume women have no sex drive, period, and they don’t bother to ask/figure out what turns her on. Instead, if she’s never interested they just whine and nag or threaten to cheat/leave, hoping that she’ll eventually give in. How depressing.
sad for her. she’s likeable in spite of everything. they look(ed?) really cute together. how can you trust someone after that?
A lot of men really are just whining little children who have to have attention and be coddled it seems. They should be allowed in their minds, to look elsewhere when their wives are consumed with working, taking care of the home and caring for and raising children. Some just can’t deal with the physical changes a woman’s body goes through during and after pregnancy. They want the fantasy girl who will greet them at the end of the day in lingerie, cold beer in hand, sports on the tv and ready to indulge their wildest fantasies. Selfish beasts many of them are, and the internet provides them with those fantasy women and the cheating and shadiness have only gotten worse thanks to it. From porn sites, to hook up sites, to social media where ex-girlfriends are again in contact with them it’s like one big candy store for many men and the perpetual 13 year old boy that lives within.
so how does that explain that women cheat at the same rates that men do?
Most of the women (ages 19-45) I’ve asked cite (from most to least common):
a) He was emotionally unavailable
b) He cheated first/revenge
c) The sex was awful
d) Violence
Do we really believe thats its only men who cheat for superficial reasons while cheating women are actually the victims? the world isnt that black and white. it also completly ignores the female sex drive and simple physical attraction. i dont think there are big differences in how men and women let the chemistry take over despite a commitment.
also: funny enough i just read a guardian article about a woman getting bored and then cheating, she ended it with “I have searched sites and forums about my issue, but everything about women being unfaithful depicts the woman as a victim somehow. I feel unrepresented and alone.”
Well they have to exist by law of averages. I’m just giving anecdotal evidence. I’m also not counting the women who were seeing multiple dudes at one time–they weren’t in “committed relationships” so it wasn’t “cheating”. Or something.
I think it has to do with women are supposed to be the ones who “bag” a man and “force” him into marriage. MRAs also counter with the “men are supposed to spread their seed, it’s biology” argument too as an excuse for their assholishness. Women don’t “have” that fallback option plus the fear of being labeled a “slut” or a “skank” or a “whore.”
I cheated on and off for years on my long term boyfriend with a friend of ours. I felt neglected, alone most of the time (he was here but not here, playing video games or working at his desk) and at times slept in a separate bed and only occasionally had sex with me (we don’t have kids) and I am talking 1-2 times a week if I was lucky. Sometimes once every other week. I thought I was going to leave the boyfriend for the guy friend, but he got tired of waiting and left me for a 22 year old (he is almost 31!) I’m 34. Women definitely cheat for more concrete reasons from my experience.
Women cheat, too. For the record, it was out of pure excitement. It wasn’t for any problem in the relationship at all and I continued to feel just as committed to my SO. Sometimes, you want to feel that rush and lust and butterflies that get lost in a LTR.
Cheating is bad enough, but for some reason a site like Ashley Madison makes it even more gross, because it’s so pathetic and desperate.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the ratio of men to (real) women was actually closer to 95/5 or 98/2. Female cheaters don’t need to sign up or pay for anything to get laid, they just need to walk out the front door. It’s easy for almost any woman to find a willing casual sex partner, but not for a man, because most women are very choosy about who they bang and most men are not. Don’t men realize that??
And if any of these married men expect a woman who looks like a *model* TO PAY just for a chance to sleep with them, they’re even bigger idiots than I thought. Talk about delusional.
At first I thought these scandals were a lot juicier, because I thought AM was a site for married men who wanted affairs with other married men. Then I noticed these guys are actually straight and very, very stupid. Seriously. Youre telling the whole world youre a cheater and your chances of getting laid are not even increasing. Why the hell would you even do that?
This is not shocking what so ever. This is just the never ending saga of snooki. She is only parlay this into a money making gig. I’m sure they’ll be on the next episode of marriage boot camp.
Is anyone else completely shocked Eddie Cibrian’ s name never showed up during this scandal. I hate to say it but he might not be the philanderer his ex-wife made him put to be.
Affleck also wasnt on this site, neither was Tiger Woods. it does not mean much.
Supposedly one of his email accounts is registered.
How would he pay for it? LOL LeAnn probably pays all their bills.
LeAnn definitely pays his bills. He has rarely worked since they married.
Ladies take it from a sex worker – most married men cheat. Strippers, escorts, sugar babes – anyone in the industry will tell you this…the rabbit hole goes deeper and darker than you can every possibly imagine.
If you do your research you can figure this out for yourself.
Its biological.
With that being said – partnership, decency (or the appearance of decency) is *very important* for the stability of the world and should be encouraged and practiced by the majority of people or the world goes to hell in a handbasket.
Also – a lot of hot young guys sign up for Ashley Madison to bag hot married lonely women.
My ex-boyfriend is a model who can have anyone – he had an Ashley Madison account and he is unmarried.
I honestly don’t necessarily think this guy was cheating on Snooki. He might have been trying to run through cougars before he hooked up with Snooki.
Or maybe he was innocently looking around.
This is all getting out of control.
So there is a podcast where Snooki is judging Anna for staying with Josh Duggar days before her husband is outed for having an AM account.Pot meet kettle
Nicole gave a response about the ashley Madison accusations on her Instagram denying the whole thing. *sips tea*
Can you please cover Hunter Biden’s Ashley Madison account and the hilarious excuse he gave for it?
Any other big names show up yet?
Oy, this is just painful to those of us who actually work with tech.
Anyone’s email address can be in there. Ashley Madison never verified the email addresses, so anyone could use any address to sign up with. It is not proof that anyone was cheating or thought of cheating just because their email address is there. In fact, that proves absolutely nothing other then the fact that the email address was typed in.
People need to realize how all of this works. AM is at fault for not keeping their information hashed and secure, the hackers are at fault, this is illegal, and the people who cheat are at fault for thinking anything online is safe. Sony gets hacked, losses 77 MILLION users credit card and personal info and no one freaks, other than those of us who had to replace all of our credit cards. AM losses 34 million users, the majority of which may or may not be real accounts and all hell breaks loose. Just wait until Amazon gets hacked and everyone gets to see that the 8 foot dildo you bought on line was delivered to your house for Christmas 2014.
I am so disappointed in the lack of humanity at this point. I still stand behind my belief that, while cheating is wrong, it is no one else’s f**king business what happens in someone’s home. There are husbands/wives/kids who have to deal with the fall out of this and I believe that this is not the way for kids or spouses to find out. (Those kids who are old enough to find and get the files on their own will, the media does not need to out their parents for them.) Basing the assumption that one was cheating based on an email address that was found in the database is ridiculous and irresponsible. If you get spam for something you did not sign up for, you should know that this method of proving someone is guilty is completely wrong (unless you really did sign up for that email list for the Canadian no-name Viagra deals).
I would also actually like to know the success rate of the site, since the majority of users are male……I’m guessing extremely low.