Last week, Caitlyn Jenner appeared on Ellen DeGeneres’ show and they ended up chatting about marriage equality. Caitlyn said some words about “tradition” and being from a generation that believed that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. Caitlyn struggled to really explain how she feels now, and Ellen ended up calling her out on it a few days later, when Ellen was being interviewed by Howard Stern. Caitlyn listened to Ellen’s criticism (I’m assuming), and decided to post a long essay on her blog about what she’s learned in the past months, and she included some new words about marriage equality:
I want to help each of you understand something that I only recently embraced: Being different is okay – in fact, it’s great! But I also understand it takes some getting used to. Like many people, there was a time when I didn’t realize how important it is for gay couples to have the right to get married. But after hearing from my gay friends and learning more about the hardships they faced because of discrimination, it became clear to me that everyone should be able to marry the person they love. I can only hope that by sharing my story, there’s someone out there whose mind has been changed about trans people.
At the end of the day, I still think Caitlyn’s E! reality show did more good than harm. Of course, I also think that the final lesson from IAC was basically: “See? Transgender people are just as boringly normal and vapid as everybody else!” It’s good that Caitlyn got a chance to glance through a life beyond her narrow privilege, but let’s not kid ourselves that she’s this incredibly enlightened civil rights icon either.
Meanwhile, People Magazine has a new story about how Caitlyn and Kris are still at odds.
They were married for over 23 years, but Caitlyn Jenner and Kris Jenner are navigating uncharted territory in the wake of Caitlyn’s transition.
“It’s still really fresh for Kris,” says a source close to the Keeping up with the Kardashians star. “She does seem to really separate Caitlyn from her life now and has moved on as best she can.”
One source of tension was what a Kardashians production source calls Caitlyn’s “immaturity.” Says the source: “Caitlyn has been very outspoken. Dissing Kris in Vanity Fair is a huge one. She throws a lot of stones but takes very little responsibility.”
Still, “there is no obvious discord,” says the Kardashian source. “The family hasn’t seen Caitlyn a ton recently, but it’s not for any other reason other than the fact that they lead incredibly busy lives.”
When it comes to Kris, the source says, “it’s still weird for her, but I’m sure they’ll get to a place down the line where they can be friends.” After all, “[Caitlyn] will always be a priority to all of them, no matter how much or how little they see her.”
There is an “immaturity” with Caitlyn, I agree with Lucifer’s source. Caitlyn admits as much, that she feels like a giddy teenager at times. Anyway, I don’t really care if Kris and Caitlyn are fighting or if there are still hurt feelings or whatever. Blah.
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I’m glad she finally understands the importance of marriage equality. It felt too me hypocritical that she’s asking for equality and acceptance , while not giving that same consideration to others. It didn’t sit right with me.
Nor with me…nor with Ellen D.
Have watched a couple of episodes of Caitlyn’s show (when nothing else was on), and it was hard for me to get through the entire thing. She seems so much more shallow than I thought Bruce was. I liked Bruce, not liking Caitlyn much.
Of course, they are one and the same person, so I guess Bruce was perhaps more shallow than I realized. Maybe I just always felt sorry for him for the consistently $hitty way Kris treated him.
Me too. And vapid, superficial or not, I appreciate that she took the time to post that. Whatever the personalities involved, I think it’s a helpful piece placed in the puzzle.
Honestly I truly, truly believe she only posted that because of the large amount of negative publicity she was getting over the comments. I think she’s just as bigoted as ever but probably learned not to share that side of herself on TV again.
These two squabble meanwhile their youngest child is showing off how big her breasts look in a bra and ‘modeling’ in panties and nothing else.
Yeah…I don’t care. Being a parent was supposed to be putting your own nonsense on the back burner for the sake of your child. Not till the point you drive yourself mad but to the point you act responsibly and focus on someone who’s still new to the world.
Caitlyn’s selfishness is an extension of Bruce’s selfishness and don’t tell me he didn’t see a glimmer of it in Kris and wasn’t attracted to that too. Wild animals would have actually raised those girls better than these two excuses for human beings did.
^^^^ “Wild animals would have actually raised those girls better…” AMEN and that is the TRUTH!!!!
BLOOP! There It Is!! this is why I don’t have the F*cks to give about anyone’s Hurt fee fees on this fight Cause Kris Is Despicable and well… so is Caitlyn’s oversight of her children
So, so true.
Basically source being PMK herself is mad that Caitiyln out Kardashian her.
( One source of tension was what a Kardashians production source calls Caitlyn’s “immaturity.” Says the source: “Caitlyn has been very outspoken. Dissing Kris in Vanity Fair is a huge one. She throws a lot of stones but takes very little responsibility.”)
This is what every Kardashian has done to their exses and ex-friends in the media. They seem to want to treat people like crap, but get all butt hurt when it’s done to them.
With the size of those butts, it’s a big hurt.
My funny for the the week!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree; I was bewildered at her comments about marriage equality as well. Isn’t her message that there should be acceptance no matter who you are?? As far as Caitlyn and Kris not getting along……Yeah, I kind of don’t give a s*%t considering who these two are, but how would you feel if your husband of 20 plus years suddenly became a woman? I cannot stand Kris Jenner and think she is a horrible mother for what she has done to her children, especially Kylie now (pimping her out for the all mighty dollar), but I would be pretty damn devastated if my husband became a she. On another note, I really really wish these people would just go away 😉
Free to marry who they LOVE ..?
Well he can marry him/her self because that’s the ONLY person he/she loves
Cleanup on Aisle Bigot.
Ok. That’s funny. Genuinely 🙂 I may have to poach that…
Caitlyn seems to care more about fame than issues relating to LGBT. She was after all a long time republican who enjoyed white male privilege. Now she hopefully understands more about discrimination! B T W she was a terrible parent as Bruce too. Take care of your youngest before she destroys herself…
Off topic:
Does she wear a wig? Because her hair doesn’t look like a wig.
I remember when she was Bruce I could count every bulb on her head one by one.
Hair extensions most likely.
Yes but the hair was really rare on the scalp too!
I am no expert but I think it’s one of the effects of the hormonal treatment she is taking. I’m sure she’s wearing some kind of hair extensions to enhance the whole thing, give it more volume as well
I think people expected Caitlyn to become a vocal LGBTQ public figure and advocate, but they forgot that Bruce was a proud republican. There’s a little bit of a mismatch of values and it shows when she talks about marriage equality, taxes, Obama’s presidency, etc.
Yep.
They also forgot that Bruce was a shallow, self-centered person who married Satan’s minion.
Yep. They straight up gave her a new personality and when she transitioned. It was truly bizarre.
Can anyone say backtracking?
Yes, that, too, which certainly has not gone unnoticed.
I feel like Bruce was Gay and unable to pursue it because of his twisted religious and political beliefs. I think somehow he convinced himself that becoming a woman and loving a man is better than being a man loving a man. That’s why shes like “I’m not gay I’m not gay ” I don’t think she realizes she’s an hour pass gay and it doesn’t matter anyway. I am over her selfish attitude I thought she would be so much nicer and down to earth. She’s a true Kardashian
WUT
Bruce/Caitlyn still likes women. Just a crossdresser to me.
Is cait not a lesbian? i keep hearing her saying things about letting people love who they love or how she is just now coming around to accepting gay marriage, but its my understanding that she was not into men. seems odd to me a lesbian would need time to accept marriage equality.
I don’t get people say she’s backtracking. It’s more like she is getting it after the interview, that it is more than just accepting it, being okay with it, and as a transperson should really understand that. I could see where it would upset Ellen, the “okay with it” comment. It’s odd, because if she dates women, she might very well want to marry again one day. Maybe Caitlyn still having male genitalia confuses her on that issue, but she would be a gay couple marrying.
While she wasn’t warm and fuzzy about it on Ellen, she said she had changed her way of thinking. I think Ellen really brought home to her it was about equality, not just being okay with it. But to be fair, Caitlyn never said she was still against gay marriage. She said like a lot of people she had come around. Sure, as a transperson, you would think she would be far more liberated, not just accepting of it, but fully understanding the need to be equal, not less than or a different title when speaking of marriage.. Which I think that still probably comes from she lived as a white male and wasn’t as evolved while in the closet as one might think all these years. She’s 66, and in many ways has still not shed a lifetime of views.
But my point is, some on here are acting like she said she was against it on Ellen. She wasn’t gung ho but she was accepting of it, not wanting to stand in the way of somebody’s happiness as far as the ability to marry.
“I have to admit that I remember 15 years ago, 20 years ago, whenever it was that the whole gay marriage issue came up, at first, I was not for it. I mean, I thought, ‘I’m a traditionalist,’” she said. “But as time goes on, like a lot of people on this issue, I’ve really changed thinking here to: ‘I don’t ever want to stand in front of anybody’s happiness’ … If that word ‘marriage’ is really, really that important to you, I can go with it.”
“It’s funny because you’re still a little not on board with it,” DeGeneres hit back.
But Jenner insisted that she was, saying, “No I’m on board. It’s going to be pretty much the law of the land. So I still feel like yeah, I’m ok with it. I don’t want to stand in front of somebody’s happiness.”
Typical PR turn around lol
Exactly. “Oh what I said is getting me a lot of flack? OOPS! That’s not what I meant!”
I still do not believe this is nothing more than famewhoring on his part. Something is amiss with this whole story. I do not think its going to play out the way people expect.
Her PR team made her say this. Next.
Eh… what she’s saying here is not at all incompatible with what she said in Ellen? She quite literally said she’s no one to get in the way of other people’s happiness. It’s the exact same message, she just omitted the “traditional family” bit.
I guess I just have a weird agenda. As an LGBT woman I frankly don’t care if conservative, religious people like me or accept me. If they want to hate me for being bisexual and think I’ll go to hell, that’s fine with me. I have very little respect for your kind as well. But marrying who I love is my right and your not going to take it away from me. If you hate the idea of gay marriage, don’t get one. That’s really all there is to it.
Just as vapid, self serving and narcissistic as a woman.
I am so over her . I wish jenners and kardashians would forever disappear. She does not look good I am annoyed that people try to act like she looks great just bc it seems the right and good thing to say. She still looks like a dude with a dress and a surprised look from over botoxing
EXACTLY.
I wonder if she really thinks that or is it just because of the backlash she got after the Ellen’s interview?
Also, touchy question and hope to say it right, Caitlyn is a woman and likes woman.. so why the hell should she be against marriage of the same sex?