Rapper Waka Flocka Flame made a series of disappointing statements last week about Caitlyn Jenner. These remarks came as quite a surprise after Waka demonstrated a refreshing amount of perspective about the racist frat video from University of Oklahoma, which caused Waka to cancel an upcoming gig and deliver a much needed lecture to those spoiled, privileged frat boys. The incident brought so much goodwill to Waka that people readily embraced his joking bid for the White House, although he’s mostly a welcome alternative to Donald Trump.
Unfortunately, Waka stepped in it. He gave an interview last week to Power 105.1’s The Breakfast Club, and he spoke at length about his belief that transgender people are “evil.” Yes, he really used that word:
“Women are afraid to be a wife, and young males are afraid to be men. They don’t market families and husbands and wives no more. They’re marketing young girls, transgenders – they’re marketing evil. It’s really evil! Evil is marketed! And I got nothing against that – I ain’t no religious man, but I’m just saying, c’mon man. I ain’t go nothing against nobody’s preferences, but putting it on TV is crazy. And you know kids are the only people watching TV, adults are too busy.”
Then Waka doubled down and used the wrong name when talking about Caitlyn Jenner. The terrible remarks begin at about the nine-minute mark in the below video:
“I ain’t say nothing against Bruce Jenner, but you are who you are when God made you, not who you became after he did. You’re rebuking God, God ain’t put them feelings in you, thatts the devil playing tricks on your mind. That’s a test from God, if you can’t outbeat that one task and you believe that, then you’ll believe everything else and you’re going down that way.”
[From The Breakfast Club on YouTube]
Major sigh. Waka went on to describe how psychiatry is evil, and patients who resort to psychotropic drugs are weak. There’s no telling why Waka thought it was okay to say this stuff in public, but he received quite the smackdown. So much so that he took to Twitter to defend himself in a lengthy series of tweets. Buckle up, for this is a long ride.
So now I'm #Homophobic because I don't agree with #CatlinJenner Smh
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
I'm not a politician so I could never be politically correct #WakaForPrez #WakaForThePeople
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
I have nothing against transgender people. I simply feel we need to be careful what our children see as "sensationalized"
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
I'm a father now so I look at life a lot differently ..
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
Understand a technique by the press called – " bait and click " – ads make money and all these websites have ads . – WFF
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
IM NOT HOMOPHOBIC I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THE GAY COMMUNITY. IM STILL STANDING ON WHAT I SAID —
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
IM NOT A FAN OF TRANSGENDERS MARKETED LIKE A SUPERHERO #WFF
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
AND YES I WAS WRONG FOR USING THE WORD #EVIL I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT AND EVER-PERSON I OFFENDED #WRONGCHOICEOFWORD #WAKAFORPREZ
— Waka Flocka Flame (@WakaFlocka) September 19, 2015
Man. Is this guy a secret twin of Iggy Azalea? He just won’t stop talking, and his followers were actually begging him to stop in the replies to these tweets. But Waka just kept on rolling with these terrible statements, and … it’s just so unfortunate.
Photos courtesy of WENN
who?
right?!!!!
“Women are afraid to be a wife, and young males are afraid to be men.”
I honestly could have just stopped reading there and saved myself a lot of grossness. Women are not afraid to be wives. Many still choose to do so actually; we just now have the option to be other things too. F*ck off if that offends you…random rapper dude I’ve never actually heard of…
Yeah, I’d say that many intelligent, well-educated women are LESS afraid to be housewives and/or stay-at-home moms these days, because they’re not trapped in that situation like their mothers probably were.
Oh this is a common message in Churches (which I expect is where he plucked this reasoning from probably growing up). It goes something like “women no longer submit to mans authority, because feminism. So now men are so confused by their role in the world and its reflecting in homosexuality and transgenderism”. If only women would stop being hard nosed bitches and allow “men to be men” there would be no LGBT. Lol.
@Naya, churches? Really! Maybe the church you attend has made such ludicrous comments, but please don’t bring religion, and ALL churches into this.
Judd: what Naya said.
When synthetic weed goes terribly wrong.
I was just thinking that (actually I was thinking bath salts, but close enough)
“Women are afraid to be a wife” What on earth does that mean?
No idea. Was this guy high or drunk when he said this?
Please don’t bring my friends alcohol and weed into this.
It’s odd he’s against meds when he clearly needs some.
I heart you kitten
*bong rips for Kitten*
I think he’s trying to say– albeit in a really, really stupid way– that normalizing transgender people is ruining the traditional family unit. “The man is the man, the wife is the wife,” bla bla bla. Not saying I agree with him, at all, whatsoever. That’s just what I think he was getting at.
@shambles I think so too. He was inarticulate and grasping to explain his opinion. It sounds like he is struggling to understand the normalizing of nonhetero sexualities and gender change from the perspective of being a father. I think for some people, due to ignorance or culture, they are on a learning curve to comprehend and accept. Then there are those filled with fear and hatred of what they don’t understand (or want to understand).
Although he said he’s not religious it seems Old Testament Biblical ideas inform his views. He didn’t say transgender persons are evil, he said the devil is at work in their mind…I think that is a distinction, albeit a thin, shaky one. Just trying to be open and not dismissive and understand different POV’s.
I agree with what you said Shambles and Im in no way surprised,TONS of Black people in churchy settings and men of color with very “set” Ideas of sex and gender operate under, i always find it ironic how as a community Blacks/latinos are very quick to fall on those ridiculous outdated patriarchal and homophobic, slutshamey antiquated notions of masculinity and so on… and truly really grasp and flounder like crazy when being told how that stuff is no better than dealing with racism and racists and you cannot then turn around and dish it out to other communities
Jolene (Jolene, Jolene, Joleeeeene 😁), I’m picking up what you’re putting down. Some people are definitely still on a learning curve, because this new influx of people in all different shades of gray is just so different from what they’ve known to be true for their entire lives. And that’s totally okay. What is not okay is spouting off judgments about something something you don’t yet understand.
QQ, muchas gracias, that was really interesting insight. Just yesterday I was driving and pondering, thinking to myself, “WHY do we as humans keep making things so much more complicated for each other? Can’t we see that it all comes from US? The one thing we all are is human, so why do we insist on making it harder for each other?” Your comment really resonates with those thoughts. Just goes to show that we all have our walls and ways, and the sooner we see that the sooner we can start to break em’ down.
As an extension of that, I think he’s also trying to say that the whole idea of a family unit at all isn’t what’s being marketed. It’s sexsexsex all the time, being young and hot, blah blah blah. The ideas of commitment and family aren’t really a part of pop culture. Obviously he sees transgender people as a threat to this as well.
I don’t agree with him either, and he was SO inarticulate about it but I do think that’s what he’s saying.
QQ and Shambles. You are so right. These views are so prevalent in my community. It’s really hard for people to eschew what have they believe, what has been drummed into them all their life. So they speak out of ignorance and a supreme discomfort that the world as they know it is changing.
Here’s the thing-I get that some people are struggling with some issues. Transgender, gay marriage, the LGBT community have been marginalized and swept under rugs by ALL communities/races, basically. it’s just in the last few years that things have turned around for them. There are people who will NEVER feel that this is okay, and that’s their right ( I am NOT one of those people-and that’s my right). but for him to call a transgender person “evil” and of the devil-he definitely meant what he said. He’s of the same mind as Kim Davis. Maybe he should meet with some young teen who has attempted suicide because he is gay. He needs to do something to see that these people aren’t evil. What’s been done to them is the REAL evil.
good point. just to point out the obvious that the “traditional family unit” isn’t a resounding, universal success… health-wise. If traditional meant “people who love and respect each other, and promise to do so responsibly with those tender souls with whom they’re charged,” then, yes, traditional sounds awesome.
@shambles, I agree that his statement is that the non-support of traditional families is what’s evil. The idea that as a society we are supporting sex is evil. I do agree with that sentiment. I was just thinking about all of the shows that depict marriages as negative, the male in the relationship does not appear to be a leader, women who are not used to understanding what a leader looks like not being able to accept a true partnership, a man who supports his wife and children– that image is slowly dying. I think he is inarticulate, but I do not think this is an ignorant comment. Watching him on Love and Hip Hop he appeared to be a kind, loving, and supporting husband, willing to be there for his wife.
He meant that women are afraid to be HIS wife. I can’t imagine why.
I don’t know him but he seems like a lovely person. People tweeting in caps are usually my crowd because they’re always so reasonable. And I completely believe God is testing us constantly. For example, he put this dude on that show. Maybe more of a dare than a test. Still failed.
Maybe someone should sit Mr. Waka Floka down and explain that one of the reasons some women have no interest in being a wife is because they haven’t met a man interested in being a *husband*. And considering how many so-called “men” in the rap industry promote misogynism and sexually objectifying women, he needs to be lecturing men on being decent people before he lectures women and the LBGT community.
Yes, BlueNails!
So his got nothing against trans , but states that your rebuilding what god gave you and having those thoughts or feelings are evil and pretty much eludes to people not being strong enough to fight these devil thoughts/feelings. Yep, that’s exactly what an unsure teen needs to hear when dealing with these issues. Thanks for contributing to higher transgender suicides.
Yes, because “God” has nothing better to do than to make her people miserable by giving them feelings they have to “fight” in order NOT to be evil. Got it, Waka!
You know, I think there are a lot of stupid comments on transgender issues, but the “God doesn’t make mistakes,” and “that’s the way God made you” comments are the worst to me as far as just being nonsensical. So, if you were born hearing impaired but could have an operation so you could hear, you shouldn’t, because that’s not the way God made you? Conjoined twins should not be separated if possible? Just say that it grosses you out and makes you uncomfortable. Be honest, because that argument is just dumb.
Hear, hear! I’m going to use this next time I hear that stupid “God doesn’t make mistakes” argument.
“Just say that it grosses you out and makes you uncomfortable. Be honest, because that argument is just dumb. ”
That’s it in a nutshell! He can’t relate. It makes him uncomfortable and he finds it personally disgusting. I’d actually have some respect for a clear honest answer like that.
On a side note, I do think Caitlyn’s sensationalizing the whole thing was more about attention, money and relevancy than it was to support the LGBT community. Enlightening others and helping those struggling with similar situations was/is a great benefit, but I don’t believe that’s why she did it. She did it for the hype. Chris taught her well.
This is the argument I use as well. It’s like…duh. If God made you with poor vision, you can’t have surgery? Poor teeth-braces? I use the conjoined twins argument as well.
For someone who “ain’t no religious man”, he sure has plenty of rigid and antiquated beliefs on the subject of God.
@mayamae: Exactly. Not religious – until God gives credence to his prejudice and miraculously helps him in a fallacious argument.
He might not go every Sunday, so perhaps he worships at the ever-growing megachurch of God the Convenient. I think his branch is known as Whenitsuitsme.
Also sounds like he’s spouting some hybrid, less subtle version of $cientology as well.
Not to mention those tattoos he’s sporting are marring his perfect, God made skin. I wonder how he would justify that.
The best is that he says “I ain’t no religious man” then claims that people being transgender is the work of the devil…pretty sure that make you a religious man. And the bash on Psychiatry? Are you a Scientologist too?
“Just say that it grosses you out and makes you uncomfortable. Be honest, because that argument is just dumb. ”
I love you GNAT.
@belle “perhaps he worships at the ever-growing megachurch of God the Convenient. I think his branch is known as Whenitsuitsme.”
PERFECTLY STATED
I don’t think he feels too much different than a certain element of the population. He does live in America and has the right to say what he feels, whether we agree with him or not. Caitlyn puts herself out there and has to expect these opinions. Seems to me like Waka is probably a Trump supporter, so maybe using the word evil could apply to some things….good luck to his child.
See, it would be one thing if he said “Caitlyn is not a role model” because she’s done some pretty questionable things but he is not just targeting her. In one dumb interview he actually managed to insult the entire LGBT community and women and men who don’t have traditional partnerships.
I think you’re right about him supporting Trump; how many people are able to be a jack@ss to so many people with so few words? It’s a gift they share.
Ha! True. He isn’t exactly well known to much of the world. I doubt he has the influence to change people’s minds one way or the other. I envision in my mind the Duggars, Kim Davis, Ann Coulter…..those type of people having not just closed, but locked minds…..somehow Flocka doesn’t fit the image, but I imagine he’s pushing a record or something.
No, he really doesn’t. It pains me to admit but Mr. Wren shares similar feelings. He would never vent them in public or treat someone with disrespect, but he’s just as inarticulate and backwards sounding about it in private. I’ve been gently trying to educate him, but it’s a long road.
The core of it is that these people have ZERO understanding of the issue. People fear what they don’t understand, and if they were raised to believe that such things are “evil” or at the very least “against the natural” then it causes a lot of stupidity later in life. They struggle to grasp an idea that has literally never occurred to them, and it’s hard. Much easier to simply reject the people bringing this concept into the light.
Well Caitlyn might well be a negative influence on our children – but in terms of superficiality, famewhoriness and all that other reality TV cack. But she’s not ruining our children by being transgender in public, FFS.
Just last night, the Sixlets and I were watching a science documentary on the BBC – http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06crff1 if you guys want to check it out – all about human gestation. This episode included a segment on a transgender little girl and discussed possible biological determinants (different time in gestation for testosterone “washes” that determine physical and psychological developments; differences in testosterone receptors, yadda).
Sixlet Major said, “Ohhhhhhhhhhh. I get it now. Cool.”
I wouldn’t call that the reaction of a ruined child; I’d call it the reaction of an enlightened one.
I’ve seen that documentary and read more on the subject of “washing” and how it influences hormones, ergo gender identity. It’s really an interesting, fascinating subject.
that made me misty. congrats on the enlightened sixlets.
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” I ain’t no religious man” vs “God made you, that’s a test from God”
… yeah. Not making much sense there, dude. I won’t even get into the rest of it.
Believing in God doesn’t necessarily make one religious.
yes, it does. God is an entity created by various religions, so are Gods in various other religions. You may choose not to follow institutionalized religions, which I guess is what you’re saying?, but that’s not the same thing.
Just saw that other commentators noted the same thing.
1) God wasn’t created by any religion.
2) If you were to take a poll of Celebitchy posters (or of the general population, for that matter), asking them: (A) Are you religious? and (B) Do you believe in God?, I think you’d find that (B) produces a much bigger number than (A).
God was created by Religion, which was created by man. (imo, of course.)
Agree to disagree, Alicia.
Something makes me doubt that this dude understands that distinction.
@Alicia I don’t believe you need to be religious to believe in god either.
You can believe in God without believing in organized religion.
I noticed that! Also:
“They’re marketing young girls, transgenders – they’re marketing evil”
Young girls are evil too? WTF, buddy.
Odin wasn’t created by any religion, either.
Just an odd observation: he “ain’t no religious man” but then goes on at length about God and the devil as his justification for condemning Caitlyn Jenner?
Aren’t most people who say crap like this massive hypocrites in some way?
I mean a person can believe in God without prescribing to an organized belief system. I know several conscious people who know and accept God but have a deeper understanding of the various religious teachings. Now who is placing people in a box?
Agreed. I disagree strongly with Amunet. People that believe in God but aren’t religious are called Agnostic. Agnostics don’t believe in the devil or that the devil actually does things. That’s PURELY religion speaking. Also I know “several conscious people” huh…I would argue that I know many people…some are conscious right now and others are unconscious (sleeping) currently.
Dear Wacky F*cky Doo (or whatever you call yourself).
I feel sorry for your dumb a**
Hilarious!!
Waka Waka STFU *throws tomato*
I can’t deal with this. Too early.
Muzzle please.
Look at his eyes in the interview — um, his pupils. There you go…
So he “ain’t no religious man”, but that’s an awful lot of references to God as a justification for ignorance.
Willie Wonka said WHAT?!
free candy! for everyone! … except evil transgender or women who don’t want to be wives…
“Waka demonstrated a refreshing amount of perspective about the racist frat video from University of Oklahoma”
but that was only because that frat video was something that was also about him. he can be a victim of racism. so its not really so great to realize its wrong when its negative for yourself. he lacks the empathy to stand up and understand people who are different from him.
This guy is on a low budget reality show on VH1. He has no actual career! I can’t name one song by him that’s hit charts or gone mainstream. Rappers have no problem objectifying women, promoting violence, drug usage and misogyny but apparently their “faith in God” is so powerful when asked about the LGBT community? Take a seat.
“promoting violence and misogyny”
you will find this in pretty much every religion.
Some rappers. Thanks.
The raison d’etre for just about every religion is money, power, misogony, heaping helpings of shame for just about everything, in order to exert control, repression, and subjugation of women. Always has been, always will be, that in and of itself is evil.
Yeah, you just don’t know his work. I abhor his statements, but both of his albums have sold over a million copies and have debuted in the Billboard Top 10. He’s actually a legitimate rapper and diminishing his work does nothing to discredit his statement. In fact, I think lessening him in regards to the rap game makes it seem like some unknown entity is making this and not someone who once was and could be a big deal. It would be like attributing Matt Damon’s diversity comment to an unknown production aide.
Wait he’s not religious but why did he keep saying ‘god this and that..’ ?
He sounds like our local pastors. And that’s some serious offense.
Eccchhhh. Dude should at least acknowledge his religious fanaticism … then STFU.
So he’s not a religious person but he references God four times and then talks about “the devil” to support his views…?
mmm hmmm, agreed
I am so tired of these rappers who haven’t studied anything but their bank accounts telling other people (mainly young women) how to live their life. Stay in your lane and shut it.
Well. He chooses to call himself ‘Waka Flocka Flame.’ Do we really expect him to make a lot of sense?
Oh so now as a father he’s worried about what children see? Why doesn’t he condemn all the nudity and sexual content on tv…or better yet go after Kim instead of Caitlyn.
Moralizing coming from a guy who was on Love and Hip Hop: Atlanta. Too sober for this bullsh*t.
Um…the guy’s choosing to call himself Waka Flocka Flame, and people are expecting him not to be a nutbar?
Lower your expectations people. Then lower them again. He’ll make more sense that way.
Or not.
Either way, you won’t care anymore.
🙂
“I got nothing against trans people but I don’t wanna see them on TV”
Can someone give me the adress of the parallel universe where this makes sense? It seems like a place I’d lose weight by eating fried cheesecake.
yes. if that’s what all this means… yes. I would like that address.
I thought he said he wasn’t religious. Thats a lot of religious references in that interview of his.
if his mother wasn’t who she is, he wouldn’t even be here.
SMH
Azelia Banks just had a meltdown on a plane screaming gay slurs. Bad celebrity week
Whoever he is, beautiful lips. Too bad they spew garbage.
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At least he stands by what he said as opposed to weasel-ing out of it. It’s good to know the people we must avoid.
Yeah cause he has the right to judge others – From wiki: (Malphurs is his govt last name)
On January 3, 2011 Malphurs turned himself into authorities in Atlanta following a previous raid on his home. Malphurs was booked on possession of marijuana, hydrocodone, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon and violation of probation for driving on a suspended license.[57] On January 5, 2011 Malphurs was released after posting bail.[58]
On October 10, 2014 Malphurs was arrested at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport when a security scan turned up a loaded handgun in his luggage. Malphurs was released two hours later.[59][60]
I wonder if he’s influenced by Scientology. His views on gender/sexuality could come from the church of his youth, but the anti-psychiatry thing is pretty standard Scientology rather than random Protestant. Or are there Protestant churches that preach that? I’ve never run into one myself.
I am a psychiatrist. So I am evil. Damn it. My kids are right.