The Daily Mail had an absolutely fascinating piece about Prince Harry this weekend. SO INTERESTING. It comes on the heels of what turned out to be a pretty great year for Prince Harry. Harry is arguably the most popular royal these days, he works hard for veterans, he’s a superstar overseas and he inherited his mother’s charm and emotional intelligence. But there are worries. Quiet worries. Worries that Harry needs to settle down. Worries that he needs a clearly defined role and a clearly defined purpose. Worries that he really is the Bridget Jones of the royal family. You can read the full piece here. Some highlights:
He’s dependent on the Cambridges. “Bound up in this is his apparent dependence on William and Kate. At Kensington Palace, they are neighbours — he in the small flat where the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge used to live; they in the lavishly refurbished, 20-room apartment that was once Princess Margaret’s…Even though William and Kate are often at Anmer Hall in Norfolk, Harry sees a great deal of them — understandably, given that Harry’s instinct to turn to his elder brother for guidance has scarcely lessened in the 18 years since their mother’s death.”
Harry’s dread. “In court circles, Harry is said to be ‘in dread of becoming the new Prince Andrew’ — a second son marrying someone inappropriate and bringing the family into disrepute.”
Harry wants to be normal too. A courtier says: “Harry’s desire to settle down, have his own family and be like his brother is quite a strong one. He wants to have some kids and get a dog and be ordinary. He just doesn’t know how to achieve it.”
Charles doesn’t want to guilt Harry into marrying. The DM says, “With no prospect of a marriage any time soon, defining a role for Harry is becoming more pressing…Prince Charles has been careful not to interfere in his son’s relationships… as he is acutely aware of the pressure he himself came under at around the same age to marry 20-year-old Lady Diana Spencer.”
Harry wants his own Kate? A friend-of-Harry says: “Ideally, Harry is looking for a Kate Mk II. But they’re thin on the ground.” One family friend describes Kate and Harry as ‘terrific mates’ and he has talked about her as the sister he never had.
What the Queen thinks. From a courtier: “Mindful of his erratic past, there is a constant anxiety that he could still fall into the wrong company,’ murmurs a courtier. The Queen has mixed feelings on the Harry front. While she’s more relaxed these days, she does worry about duty and commitment. Harry’s charitable work is strong, but his direction is not.”
Some suggested jobs. Buckingham Palace has been spitballing some ideas, like Harry could have a formal role with a big charity, or he could become a “roving ambassador.” The DM says: “The fear among some of the Queen’s advisers is that Harry may be unwilling to embrace what one describes as ‘too much royal routine’, at least while he remains unmarried.”
Harry likes older, discreet women? “Harry certainly doesn’t give the impression of a prince searching with any great urgency for a consort. Like his father years ago, when sowing his wild oats he has developed a penchant for the company of older, more worldly women on whose discretion he can rely.”
Camilla is on the case! Even though Camilla and Harry aren’t particularly close, Camilla “is said to be doing her bit to point her stepson in the right direction” with the help of her kids’ “well-connected address books.” A source says: “Camilla knows it will make Charles very happy to see Harry settled down with the right girl, just as William is. Camilla loves to be involved — she had lunch with Kate after she got engaged to William.”
Harry’s future title. When Harry marries, it’s expected that the Queen will make Harry and his wife the Duke and Duchess of Clarence. It’s also possible that Harry would become the Duke of Edinburgh when Prince Philip passes.
I feel very strongly that some of these sources are pro-Cambridge. Harry’s been getting too much good press lately and he’s been making William and Kate look bad by comparison, so of course some people need to complain about something. I also don’t believe that Harry would want or be interested in a version of Kate Middleton for a wife. Harry’s always had a different type – blonde, fun, uninhibited, not a wet blanket. While Harry might like the idea of finding a “nice girl,” I bet he meets tons of nice girls and they bore him to tears. And Camilla involving herself in some kind of wife-hunt for Harry… good lord. She’s going to set him up with some horse-faced aristocrat.
As for Harry hooking up with older, worldly women who are discreet… that’s fascinating. I wonder if he’s been banging anyone we know? Why did I just get a mental image of Victoria Beckham sitting a smoke-filled room?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
This doesn’t sound very real to me – it looks to me like he has found his place as Royal … this is coming from the lazy ones that don’t appreciate his success or commitment to his chosen causes.
It probably was fed by W & K’s new PR hack…………….
Yes, it’s a PR piece to build up Will and Kate.
Despite the title being about Camilla, that’s just a distraction from the articles true PR goal to knock Harry down a few pegs.
I haven’t read something this obvious in a very long time.
How low can you go, #poorjason? It appears that Harry has little respect for his SIL. Why else would he refer to her as a “limpet”? He sees through her and probably wants pretty much the opposite of Kate. And dragging Camilla into this is a joke. He’ll find the right women on his own. He seems like a great guy. Jason must be getting desperate and if this was Will’s idea, he’s an assh*le.
This . . .
Build Up WK and tear down Harry. Whenever there’s coverage of Harry in terms up searching and struggling it’s always a distraction from WK.
No shock at all. And wth Harry getting some great feedback from his vets work and Obamas something had to be done.
Just Tabloid stirring, Camilla hate.
Story is total bull.
P.S. Another story the UK press didn’t report on that happened at the BOND Premiere, is that Kate went out of her way to ignore, avoid and not chat Isabella and Sam Branson at the Bond Premiere as the Royals came near them. Pr. Harry chatted with them both(Sam & Isabella) for quite a while and seemed to be enjoying himself with them. Kate was said to avoid eye contact even though Isabella and Sam were standing right near, when Pr. Harry went and chatted to them.
No word how William handled the Isabella, Sam meeting, but rumor has it, he can’t stand Sam Branson for some reason, even though Sam is said to be always cordial to William, meanwhile Sam and Harry get on great.
Wasn’t Sam NOT invited to The Wedding Of The Century? What were the Bransons doing at premiere anyways?
Bond flies Virgin Airlines in the films. Branson paid for the product placement in the film franchise, so he probably received invites to the premiere.
Bransons get invited to almost every UK film premiere and then some in the UK, they just don’t attend them all and as notasugarhere stated Virgin ,Sam’s father’s company has product placement.
Am surprised by this piece of gossip, particularly is wasn’t it a Branson (Holly) who helped Kate organise the infamous charity roller disco!! She used to be tight with them or gave the impression to the media she was,
Betti-
Isabella was widely known to be William’s first choice. She recently married into the Branson family. He broke up with Kate to woo Isabella, after he failed he went back to reliable Kate. I am sure Kate was desperate to be close to the family before her transition from Waity Katey to Lazy Katey. They were rich, well connected, not competing for William’s hand in marriage.
Was William intrigued by Isabella because she was very un-Kate like? Things that make you go hmm… I think he must have loved her to some degree to marry her and have children with her, after all, he had lots of options. Methinks he was tired for awhile by her clinginess.
Andrea
William had few options. To marry him meant marrying a job. Many would sleep with him, but marry? Few who were possible declined the role.
I take to the Whitaker translation that Wills loves Kate and her family, but not in love.
Betti
Articles at the time of the charity disco laid out Kate helped, but wasn’t significant in pulling the event together. She spoke of it and invited. Stories soon after wrote of it like Kate pulled it all together herself with some help. A case of why it pays to pay attention as news unfolds.
And it seems as though Harry and Kate don’t even talk anymore, even when thrown together. There no way Harry wants a lazy, work-shy wife! He’d be all alone doing his charity work. This story smells
Like nonsense to me.
If Kate were astute at chitchat and more secure, she could just been polite for a few moments and chatted about both of the couples being new parents, since Sam and Isabella also had their first child, but I don’t think Kate wanted anything to do with being near Isabella.
Also I always found it a bit Odd that both William and Kate missed Holly’s wedding, especially considering how much Kate chased Holly’s friendship when Kate as girlfriend was trying to keep herself around any part of William’s circle. Were they away somewhere when Holly’s wedding happenened?
January 9th was the Warhorse premiere I think. They weren’t busy elsewhere unless i missed something
Whomever thinks Harry is lost is an idiot. Harry seems to have a good head on his shoulders and works hard.
Also, there is nothing wrong with him because he is not yet “settled”. Look at how all of the Queens 3 oldest children messed up their lives while married.
No one should be helping Harry out in this department least of all Camilla. She has terrible taste in men. LOL
the article is bogus.
IMO Harry has a better head on his shoulders than needy, petulant William with his adopted viper- clawing Middleton family.
I think William is going to past up being King. I can see Harry being King more than William. He seems to get along well w/ his Dad. I believe it’s my wishful thinking he becomes King.
Nooooo.
Maybe some Princes aren’t meant to be tamed. Maybe they just need to run free until they find someone just as wild to run with them.
*Carrie Bradshaw hair flick*
I’d love to see him get involved with a soldier. A really sexy WOMAN with confidence and who looks like she could beat the shit out of him! That bed raggled GInger needs to be dominanted!
hear, hear!
he’s into upper class girls though. how many of them are soldiers?
I agree with Lainey – that’s his problem. None of the posh girls he’d be interested in will mary him cause they are already crazy rich and connected. What could he offer them? Being stalked and “advised” by the palace with every step they take? See what it did to Kate and she thought she wanted to be a princess.
He needs to just meet me (I know how many others have said this lol). My family is wealthy but not as wealthy as the people he probably associates with, but I have a trust fund and my university was paid for etc), I work for a charity now volunteering and would love to get involved in more, plus I love me a ginger man. The press/paps etc would be annoying and intrusive, but if he was warm and loving, I think I could get over it. LOL
I VOLUNTEER
Hey Harry, I am older and discreet! Call me!
I can send my CV!
Oh you vixen, you.
Haha I was just thinking to myselfque everyone on CB imagining themself to be one of those “older, more worldly women on whose discretion he can rely” !!
Including yours truly ofcourse! Oh lucky ladies haha!!
So much fiction😛
Harry looking to Will for guidance – on what, how to be a spoiled brat? And Camilla looking for a bride for him? Yeah, cause this is the 17th century. Whoever writes this crap on behalf of the lazy couple needs better source material. A Harlequin novel has more substance.
Harry seems to be doing great, whoever he is sleeping with is certainly discreet, and he looks positively brilliant compared to his half assed brother. There are two heirs already, I seriously doubt there is any pressure on him to marry.
Isn’t the first line alone BS? Harry doesn’t seem to be in the country that much nowadays, is constantly working, and was still in the military before that. Plus, William and Kate have not been living primarily at Kensington Palace since always. So when is Harry spending all this time with them to develop some kind of dependency? What a load. This also has to be the millionth article emphasizing, what could be a barely above acquaintance level, relationship between Kate and Harry. I don’t know why the press is so obsessed with that angle, or why K.P. is so obsessed with it. Whether it’s The DoLittle’s wonderful marriage and exceptional chemistry, Kate not being a smile and nod princess, or Harry being Kate’s #1 fan, they still haven’t figured out that whole show don’t tell thing. And the idea that Camilla and the rest of the family is so invested? What nonsense! It doesn’t even seem like Harry’s in a hurry to “settle down”. It really doesn’t. You know, we always like to highlight Harry’s emotional intelligence. But I think that type of intuition has lent him a common sense and self-awareness that has him leading the pack in the BRF in those categories as well. I think Harry knows himself, knows what he wants, and knows better than to let Camilla, or QEII, or whoever find him a Diana. I hope he knows not to settle, to eschew the dysfunction, don’t behave like his brother (in any way), and don’t unleash another Kate on all of us (for any reason). Besides, the Kate’s of the world don’t seem to be his type.
Well said! I just read the Lainey post on Harry and saw the pics of him with the vets – absolutely lovely. It’s not even about his looks – it really is charisma and you can tell even from photos that he is emotionally invested in the causes he has picked, he works hard for them and the last thing on his mind is dependency on anyone else.
I really hope he stays the course, he keeps on doing fabulous work and when he marries, I hope he is happy and picks – and gets picked by – a woman of substance.
Right on the nail Amber. I too hope Harry doesn’t let himself be hustled into any marital arrangement by the BRF, as his father was. I agree that he seems to know himself well, and has more emotional intelligence than most in that family. I think he deserves to find just the right one. I suspect that the sort of girl he will find will blow Katy Bucket out of the water too. Let the fireworks begin!
Wouldn’t it be cool and romantic if he and that female soldier from the Walking Wounded, who presented him with a fallen colleague’s dog tag fell in love? Le sigh….
That would be such a love story!
So much interesting here! “Camilla loves to get involved -she had lunch with Kate once”. ????? I do think Harry would have more luck if he stopped looking in the relms of the super wealthy and aristocracy. Maybe some one he met thru charity work.
I’m going with soldier. She’s out there Harry ~ and she won’t take none of your shit.
I think he looks more in the bar scene vs the aristocracy.
Ikr, we can tell Camilla and Kate are so close and Cam is really involved because at one point in their lives they had lunch together.
Sounds like something cooked up to make the Cambridges look good. I’d say Harry has had no trouble defining his role this last year. He’s worked hard, and we all know what causes are close to his heart because he puts the effort into supporting those causes.
Also, I thought the reason Edward was created the Earl of Wessex was because it is intended he succeed his father as DoE? I thought that was stated somewhere publicly.
Yes, I was going to comment on that. When the DoE dies, the title should be inherited by his first born son, Charles. However, as soon as Charles becomes King all of his titles revert back to the Crown, making William the new Duke of Cornwall. It is understood Edward will then become DoE (and his son EoW).
To add, DoE was a created title, so it doesn’t get inherited in the usual way. The understanding is that Edward (Philip’s favorite) will get the DoE title but it has to be awarded by the monarch. Charles could choose not to award it if he is king at the time. Male heir becomes Duke of Cornwall automatically but Prince of Wales title has to be conferred by the monarch also.
Nota: I was curious about the DoE title. Philip is the 4th recipient of the title. It was created in 1726 by George I. I wonder what makes it’s inheritance different from other royal Duke titles?
I’ve always secretly hoped Harry would get it, although I am aware that it was reportedly promised to Edward. All the other cool ones are taken, York, Gloucester, Kent. BTW, I thought Anne was her father’s favorite.
^ Yes I thought Anne was Philip’s favorite, Andrew was QE2’s fav, Charles was the Qmum’s favorite, and no one gave a shit about Edward?
Edward is currently touring Canada- the Maritimes.
JulieM: Royal ducal titles are granted according to ranking, not simply because they are cool. The current dukedoms have dispersed to wider family members simply because rules of inheritance of male heirs.
Harry still has a big pool of vacant titles that could be granted namely *Connaught, Clarence, Avondale, Ross, Sussex, Albany and **Windsor.
*Connaught was originally created in combination with Strathearn with intention of granting it to 3rd son of Monarch going forward, but William has the Earldom of Strathearn and Ireland is no longer part of UK, so it’s a remote possibility that Edward or Harry will get it.
**Windsor is controversial for obvious reasons, so extremely unlikely for anyone in the family for a very long time.
However, the conundrum of remains of Philip’s dukedom going vacant despite having several sons, and since it’s a royal dukedom, it can’t be inherited by wider members of Philip’s Mounbatten family.
HM has expressed a wish that Edward be granted Edinburgh and I think it’s a neat acknowledgement of Philip and solution to his dukedom.
It would cause one hell of a fuss if George wasn’t made Prince of Wales on the death of Charles.
@McLori lol allegedly Edward is Anne’s favourite, so at least he (maybe) has that.
I think Anne is the only daughter and that is the bond and place she gets with her father. But as for favorites, Edward. Edward is the baby, the final son, and the one who tried to go his own direction against his father’s wishes. No one but a favorite could have come out of the Marines issue and Royal KnockOut debacle relatively unscathed in his critical father’s eyes.
@Julie, as far as I am aware, the Queen has promised Sussex to Harry. The others are all problematic for various reasons. Connaught is out because it’s in Ireland as LAK mentions. Clarence & Avondale is unlikely because no one wants to be reminded of Prince Eddy (Edward VII’s eldest son, who had all sorts of wild rumours about him and died at 28). Windsor is also unlikely because of course of Edward VIII. Ross is a possibility but it’s Scottish and they will want to avoid controversy if there are rumours of another Scottish referendum at the time. Albany and Cumberland are technically suspended as they were taken away from German title holders during WWI and technically some German aristos could petition for their restoration.
Tina I’ve never heard anything of the sort, outside of fan fiction. The more likely title is Clarence, but nothing is announced ahead of time.
Re Camilla finding poor Harry some “horse-faced aristocrat” to marry? I think that’s kind of the point – i.e. finding him some boring but dutiful wife with the right family bloodlines. But Kaiser is right. Harry’s type is some hard-drinking blond who doesn’t follow the normal rich girl path. That would certainly lead him down the Prince Andrew-Sarah Ferguson path to the next-generation royal fiasco.
Again with the Chelsy and Cressida bashing. KM always drank more than William and Harry, laughed about how her favorite drink was the Crack Daddy and Harry couldn’t handle it.
A lawyer or an actress, educated and working in their fields. Or another “Limpet” who hasn’t worked an honest day in her life.
Jason, we see you and your hamfisted anti-Harry PR antics.
If anyone saw the article yesterday about Harry welcoming home the Walking with the Wounded walkers (who walked the length of Britain) he certainly had chemistry with one of them!
SHE is the kind of woman he should marry. A veteran, she was injured and put off amputating her leg so she could do that walk. She left 25 memorials for dead soldiers along the route. Someone like her could bring out the best in Harry.
I think he would like someone like that!
YES!!!!
Article about her in the DM
“This brave helicopter gunner has endured 38 operations after almost dying in Afghanistan. She’s hiked 1,000 miles for wounded troops. After she finishes today, she’ll have her leg amputated. No wonder she’s Harry’s heroine”
That picture was just heart warming. Kirstie Ennis is a true hero, and Harry looked humbled to greet her. She gave him a dog tag of one of her mates who was killed, and he said something like that he was not worthy to receive it. She insisted that she wanted him to have it. I have a feeling Harry elicits deep loyalty in his friends and fellow soldiers. Gives some indication of the calibre of the man. Are you taking notes Billy?
Yes! She would be a perfect choice. Brave, earnest, hard-working, and loyal. They had great chemistry and that hug hinted that they are true friends. Who knows? Harry could do worse.
What a great story.
Harry will fall in love and marry someone when the time is right. I seriously doubt he’d be at all attracted to anyone like Kate.
@Sarah – Glamour model Sophia was a wild child and she has blossomed into a proper Swedish royal. I believe her hubby Prince CP was also wild and he seems to have turned it around as well. Comparing Andy to PCP makes me wonder what factors caused such divergent paths.
Natalie Imbruglia, for one.
somehow clicking through layers of DM links took me to a news about Harry and a US Marine vet who participated in Harry’s Walking Warriors (?) campaign.
the pictures are so cute, and heartfelt at the same time. the story of her life made me cry in awe.
now that’s wife material! although… seeing how behind the times a monarchy can be sometimes (although they do have some positive points to them), i wonder if such a woman and all her talent and fortitude would be wasted.
I should have scrolled down, lc deb!! I think so too!
Yeah, because Camilla knows all about what’s appropriate. Gag. Run, Harry.
I think Harry would be happy with a woman who had a little more substance than Kate, and actually enjoyed people and doing charity work. Kate seems like it’s just suuuch a drag to have to do one thing a month. But I don’t really get the panic. How old is he? Can’t they just let him meet someone and fall in love? My husband didn’t marry until he was 39, and he turned out fine. The last thing you should do is get married just for the sake of getting married, no matter who you are.
Charles was pushed into getting married and look how well that turned out.
GNAT, Harry just turned 31.
Look here. I am twice as beautiful and have way better taste in gowns, I actually work, AND I give a damn about social causes and would love for an opportunity to champion causes— so why waste time on another waity?
Finding a “Kate like” wife implies that Kate is an asset to the BRF which is clearly not the case. Kate merely “shows up” at engagements, hangs out for a bit feigning interest in people, and that’s it. The interest in Kate is limited to her wardrobe selection and general appearance which, I’m thinking is not what the royals are striving for.
Harry is doing quite nicely by himself working hard, being visible and is indisputedly an asset to the royals.
Camilla also played a part in putting Charles and Diana together and look how that turned out.
I don’t believe this story. I think Harry would resent the intrusion. He seems to be a free spirit as was his mother.
As for Harry’s future: who knows what fate will produce or what circumstances will provoke? (Diana, Panorama).
I’m a firm believer in what will be, will be.
*quickly emails CV to Edward Lane Fox*
I can just imagine the royal epic eye roll that Harry would give Camilla if she tried to fix him up with someone.
Looking for a Patty to Duchess Kathy’s “Cathy”……..if any one else ever saw The Patty Duke show on reruns. Camila doesn’t seem like a meddler, she got her prize in Charles….and hopefully the days of arranged marriages are over. My vote is for Cressida.
I find most of the story far fetched. Although I do think Harry does want to marry and have kids of his own.
That’s the only part I believe as well. Lacks direction? That part made me laugh. He shows more ‘direction’ in a week than his dear SIL and brother do in months.
It’s like that SATC episode — his light is on, so the next appropriate girl that comes along. It’ll probably be fast.
When I first read this on DM, I almost choked at the part about Harry depending on his brother for guidance and tagging along with the Normal Cambridges because he had no direction in life. What a crock! If anything, Willy Boy is the one tagging along and using Harry to score points. What a bunch of PR garbage.
Harry has a good direction in life, one he’s chosen rather than being forced on him by fate and birth order. Although I really don’t like William, I do have some sympathy for how his life has been preordained for him.
Harry really needs to get out of his little feedback circle of aristo friends if he wants to find a partner in life. Lots of interesting women out there. Camilla butting in, I doubt it. I really do think she knows better.
I don’t understand how this supposed issue about his ‘preordained position’ is hampering him from living his life in whatever way he chooses.
His press conference was his admission that he has the freedom to consider full-time royal work as an option and that nobody can force him to think and do otherwise.
What’s he doing now that he’s forced to do?
What’s he not doing now that he wants to do?
Does he want a ‘normal,’ ‘good guy,’ ‘heroic job?’ Well, they gave him one with his salary and copter donated specially for his use.
Does he want to take a post-grad university course? The school created one just for him and gave him a unnecessary dormitory room to boot.
Does he want a country estate on a 1,000 acres of land without paying for it? Grandma gave him one.
Does he want the biggest apartment with the most number of rooms at a palace? Grandma made it happen, even kicking out the charity tenant.
Does he want somebody else to pay for all the renovations and remodeling? His family basically handed him a blank check.
Does he want to pick and chose what he wants to do in public service? They let him and his wife make their own schedule and pick their own charities.
Does he want the press to keep his private life secret? The press obliges.
Does he want to take vacations any time he wants? Nobody stops him from doing it.
Does he want to somebody else to pay for his wife’s spending, especially her expensive clothes budget? Dad said to send all the bills to him.
Does he want a copter that he doesn’t pay for and with which he uses for joyriding and flying to bachelor’s parties? Grandma signed the lease.
Does he get to chose and pick what he wants to do? Yup, because NOBODY has been stopping him from creating his own niche in life.
So what is it again that’s so stifling about being the future heir?
If he doesn’t want the title of crown prince or king, then the country won’t fall apart if he goes off and lives off his own $17 million inheritance and becomes Private Citizen Normal Bill.
Nothing he’s done or will do will destroy the planet if he refuses to do it. It hasn’t now and it won’t in the future.
He’s complaining about a future that’s all his to create. Why? So that if he isn’t as good as his father and grandmother had been, he can blame it on fate and rules and tradition rather than admit that he had the freedom to do with his life as he wanted and that the responsibility for his own life was all his own?
Seeing as you put it *that* way . . . . . . 😉
Except does he really use that leased helicopter personally?
Well put, Anne. William is in control of his own destiny and refuses to see it. No one forced him to do anything including marrying Kate. He’s getting everything handed to him without him having to lift a finger yet he still complains. All I know is that his immaturity, obstinance and whining about everything is really grating. He’s doesn’t know how lucky he is. He’s set financially, doesn’t have to worry about dealing with a catastrophic illness without health insurance, doesn’t have to worry about feeding and clothing his family while living in a dodgy neighbourhood. I don’t get it. He lacks empathy something his mother and brother show(ed) everyday. He’s like a 33 year old over-grown baby and it’s so embarrassing.
bluhare, he used the new taxpayer-funded helicopter for the personal/private trip to spy headquarters in March. It was originally said to be a private visit, but after criticism, it magically turned into an official event which somehow doesn’t appear in the CC.
That is a thorough summary.
Wow, I don’t even like William. That’ll teach me to give him the benefit of a doubt!
JulieM: LOL
it really, REALLY helps not to look too closely at William or Kate if you are going to be a fan. the details are excrutiating.
This is pure fiction. Harry has causes he is genuinely devoted to (vets, conservation, his orphan charity in Lesotho), seems to keep himself occupied working on those causes with success (Invictus Games come to mind), and is generally well liked. He is without a doubt more successful on these fronts than William, and Harry isn’t even the heir. Yes he has a wild streak but he may outgrow it or have already done so. Certainly he isn’t as indulged as Andrew and won’t become another Andrew. So I don’t think the Queen or anyone else is so worried about him.
He’s so adorable, but it’s probably easy for him to be adorable as that’s the second son’s role. As much as Kate is disliked and maligned here, it’s pretty obvious that she and Harry are close.
He needs to find someone cute and fun.
When the engagement was announced Harry said he was “looking forward to getting to know her.” His brother dated her for 10 years but Harry didn’t know her? The stories of the closeness between KM and Harry are greatly exaggerated IMO.
He needs to find someone dedicated and hard working. “Cute and fun” can be reserved for the dog.
Shades of “Kate will make beef wellington for Harry” or “Kate will get Harry a puppy” articles. I doubt they’re as close as the PR suggests.
Harry can be the cute and fun one in the relationship. His woman needs to be hardworking and service minded. And capable of being sexy without having to flash the world her nickers.
McLori – Like Princess Sofia of Sweden? I think she embodies both the sexy and hard-working qualities.
A Letizia or a Maxima. Not a Sofia. Her background is just as bad as Koo Stark’s IMO. I know many of you disagree, but dig into what she really did (underage b*ndage photos, mocking disabled professor, using vulnerable children to clean up her image). The fact that she shows up for work now is just her glorying in being rich and famous, and is no more sincere than when Middleton shows up for charity work.
She may not be sincere now. But she also might. You don’t think so; I’m not so willing to keep painting her with the same brush.
And background is just that. Background. She’s not doing it now.
This is why I avoid the Sofia threads. Some of you who are so logical about KM’s behavior don’t apply that same logic to Sofia. You think she is sincere, I think it is all an act. She and CP are well-matched, since he is a fraud heading to wastrel prince territory.
Best thing for Sweden would be to limit the working royals to king, queen, Victoria, and Daniel.
This is also why I avoid typing of Sofia, because I type too quickly and put my foot in it Prince Philip style.
I resent that, nas. I don’t carry on about Kate’s past either. What’s done is done. What counts is now. And if she does turn out to be as you think she is you can say “told you so” and I’ll say “you were right and I was wrong”.
nota – Comparing Sofia to Kate in royal work ethic, Sofia’s turnaround seems sincere to me. I can’t put my finger on why that is. But only time will tell. It will be interesting to observe.
I doubted her sincerity because of how quickly and radically she changed. I don’t follow her but I did read an article about her past around the time she married. The video and photos of her wedding and recent hometown tour are what caused me to think she is sincere.
That’s why I added that after the fact, bluhare. Because I typed too fast and pressed save before rereading. You and I will continue to disagree that a past of workshy or degrading fame-chasing behavior don’t impact how they are in a royal role.
MinnFinn obviously you’re welcome to that opinion. I think she has exactly what she wanted, fame and money, so she’s happy to show up for the taxpayer-funded adulation.
I don’t think he and
Kate are close at all.
I haven’t seen one recent picture
Of them interacting the way they used to. I think Harry figured out Kate’s game and Ignores her now. He didn’t make time for charlotte’s christening and they didn’t arrange it around him. Do you think they wouldn’t have asked Pippa when she could make it?
Harry doesn’t seem to be a Kate fan at all!!
I agree with you that Harry doesn’t seem to act like a Kate fan in front of the public anymore. I think he realized that when he did, Kate reacted in an overly flirty way and that created media gossip that he didn’t need and also, it probably upset William too.
I’ve always figured there was a reason why they didn’t make sure Harry was at Charlotte’s christening.
I think in William’s world, it’s all about everybody orbiting around him. Imo, in his mind, his allowing his blood relatives to be there was his PR favor to them. He’ll set a certain date and, again, in his mind, if Harry didn’t move Heaven and Earth to be there, then that was Harry’s loss regardless of brotherly fidelity William should have striven for.
Imo, Pippa would have moved Heaven and Earth to be there, so there’d be no need to re-arrange the christening date for her sake.
@anne
William sounds like a megalomaniac. A rarely used word these days, but quite fitting for his high and mightiness, I think. How can anyone stand him?!
Too bad Michelle Obama is taken.
^^^ cute comment. Hey if Michelle wants to hand over Barack to me then maybe something can be arranged. 🙂
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!!!
This made me burst out laughing, thank you.
LOL too funny!
Bwahaha! Priceless!
I bet he likea older, discrete woman. An i under his taste runs to the exotic. No wonder he’s been able to totally charm Michelle Obama!
Lol! This!
“As for Harry hooking up with older, worldly women who are discreet… that’s fascinating.”
Why yes, yes it IS fascinating *books flight to London*
LMAO
That’s the most blatantly untrue piece of PR hyperbole I’ve ever read. It make it sound like Harry’s crashing on the Cambridge’s couch, eating bags of chips and drinking beer, watching The Notebook over and over and crying himself to sleep hugging Lupo.
Puhleeze…..I think it smacks of Cambridge tainted jealousy that he’s doing such an amazing job at spotlighting the needs of war vets, and that he’s clearly found his “niche” and loves what he does. Charles and Camilla aren’t wringing their hands worrying about finding him something to do…he’s doing it and damn well. As for his love life, I’m sure he’s doing just fine and has lots of “friends with benefits” that tide him over between steady relationships.
Cat Ommanney from the Real Housewives of DC claimed in her book she had a one night stand with Harry. She was at least 10 years older. I believe he likes older women.
This is a complete crock.
Sorry but I couldn’t read anything past “He’s dependant on The Cambridges”. What complete utter BS on The Daily Fail’s part. If anything they depend on Harry.
Although I do feel Will and Kate (mostly Kate though) receive a lot of unfair criticism, there is NO denying that Prince Harry does the work of a real future King and does it with genuine joy it seems. He doesn’t need William or Kate to gain goodwill. He’s accomplished that alone on his own merit and work ethic.
Furthermore, I”m so tired of people trying to marry him off as if that is the utopia of being settled. Honestly, he already is settled in my opinion because he has a clear view of what he wants to dedicate his time to and that is vetrans. He’s not wandering around aimlessly trying to figure it out or waiting for anyone to find him a wife. Ugh! And let us not forget that the last time Camilla picked a bride for someone, it didn’t end well.
I agree with everything. I believe love will come his way when he’s ready for it. He is just enjoying being by himself and there’s nothing wrong with that. I really dislike the fact it seems like they’re trying to pressure him into marriage and know that it will backfire just so they can say he turned out just like prince andrew.
I think that’s a touch unfair—-I believe Fergie and Andrew really loved one another (you can just tell from the photos)but it all was too much for them(plus didn’t they spend a lot of time apart?) Also, Andrew has gotten weird/skeevy since then.
At this point I hope Harry is into men, just to shut down these stories of Kate, Camila and the media trying to wife him up. Either that or I hope he falls in love and marries someone older than him and have her not be British and from a different ethnic group from him.
Not likely methinks.
I really don’t think he’s looking for a ‘Kate Mark II’ – wishful thinking on the Fail’s part. Can #poorjason get more obvious if he tried.
That also really implies Kate’s nothing more than a bot.
Is this a back handed throw out that pippa is available? Wouldn’t surprise me if Carole is dropping hints to get that rumor going again… Harry wants another Kate, well why not the obvious then, Pippa..
I liked him with the Marine but she is American and already has a serious boyfriend. I think it would be great if Harry met a fellow veteran as a future wife, that would be a great fairytale ending.
Why do people assume Harry wants to quickly marry? He can take his time finding the love of his life. He is young, charming, lovely and hot as hell. I think he will eventually marry but he’s still got plenty of time to play the field as he should! If only I were 20 years younger, blonde and an aristo I’d be all over that.
Please. He just turned 31, not 51. This is a load of crock. He’s still having his fun, no rush.
I can see why Camilla would prefer Harry marry a KM v.2 and why she had a lunch with KM v.1. To suss out how much of a PR threat KM v.1 would be to her, which is zero. So of course, a KM v.2 is the safest step daughter-in-law for Camilla.
The rest of the article sounds so desperate. They’re throwing Harry under the bus again all because he’s gotten good PR for doing good work.
This is wrong on several counts. For instance, when Prince Philip dies, Prince Edward will inherit the title of Duke of Edinburgh, not Prince Harry.
I haven’t read comments yet. What a mean-spirited and vile hatchet job on Harry! Anything to make the Dolittles look good. Just. Wow. With a brother like Bill, with his twisted scorched earth PR team, who needs enemies.
Harry is the one with direction and purpose. Willy is the waste of space. Unbelievable! SMH. People have consistently spoken of Harry being thrown under the bus to make Bill look good and now I believe it. I’m actually shocked.
I was really shocked too. As I said above, what a low way to get positive attention for yourself: Making your only brother/ brother-in-law look like a pathetic, immature frat-boy-type lacking direction who leans on you for support. Unfortunately for the Doolittles, they are only describing their directionless selves. Harry’s work and attitude in life speaks for itself. He seems focused, hard-working, and genuinely empathetic and everyone loves him for it. Will and Kate are pathetic for leeching onto Harry’s achievements and good will rather than getting off their own butts and putting in the work in order to get recognition for their own achievements. How immature and laughable! Harry, and even Charles, should have a word with those two spoiled losers. I’m pissed on Harry’s behalf.
I think Harry will do just fine, married or unmarried. This isn’t the era of Jane Austen in which royal families build dynasties and alliances. I would much rather him stay unmarried and have fun than settle down with someone just to conform to society’s expectations and have him cheat on the poor girl at the first given opportunity. Not to say he can’t control himself but Prince Ginger tends to get bored. Unless Chelsy decides to give in, I don’t see Harry marrying for awhile. Let him focus on his work with war veterans, I find that way more interesting.
+100
i always liked him w chelsea davy.
He seemed the happiest with her, but she really didn’t want the royal life. People need to let that one go and be happy for her.
Chelsea’s a smart woman.
The only one of HRM’s children who had a successful first marriage is Edward and he didn’t get married til he was 35 and had been with Sophie for a few years. And Sophie had her own career the whole time, unlike Kate who did nothing while waiting for William.
Yeah, but there’s more to it than the prior career. Sophie came to the table with the right attitude and a desire to work and pull her weight v.s. a desire to do whatever it takes to look a certain way and gain praise and admiration for making the right fashion choices. Sadly, Sophie’s choice (couldn’t help myself, Meryl) hasn’t garnered her the praise and attention she deserves – Kate could simply attend the opening of an envelope and she is cheered on and worshipped – provided her hair looks right and she has the right dress.
I think the Cambridges probably lean on Harry. He’s perfectly capable of holding his own, which he’s proven over and over.
And please Harry darling, marry someone with a bit of a twinkle in her eye. You deserve to have fun in life.
The whole thing is a crock.
Camilla helping Harry find a wife? Run. This is the woman who picked Diana for Charles.
Harry wants a Kate 2.0? I hope not. She is lazy and not very smart.