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It is just wrapping you head around a death. I figured Bowie would grace us with his presents for another 30 years.
… brutally bullied a guy, everyone forgot because he’s good looking and a man, right?
I was just thinking that. Plus the way he looks in these pictures is not my idea of looking great, but then I’ve never gotten his appeal ( even with the knowledge of his hammconda).
He always looks greasy to me, like a KFC 3 piece box special.
yep, he looks rough, like he interrupted rehab.
I was always a big fan of his and after that fraternity stuff came out–I can’t even look at him.
I loved Mad Men, and on SNL he was hilarious. But there is no excuse for what he did in college – not “youth”, nor “alcohol”, and certainly not “poor judgment”.
Now I see the greasy and the bully. The top photo above looks maniacal, not good. And the eyebrow-raised pic looks like sleazy dude who says “trust me” but you shouldn’t buy anything he’s trying to sell.
The constant rumors of cheating, mixed with substance issues, sealed it. He’s a bully, has been for years.
I’m seriously not a Jon Hamm stan or anything (though I did enjoy Mad Men ) but ffs, let it go already! People change. I’m not saying he has because I don’t know him personally, but neither do you. Many of us have done things in our teens/20’s and/or under the influence of alcohol that we’re not proud of. A simple Google search will direct you to tons of celebs who are responsible for far more heinous acts than Hamm has committed. Heck, I’m sure there are plenty of pearl clutching hypocrites on this thread alone that have done some shady sh*t in their youth, but instead are the first to step forward and vilify this guy without knowing his side of the story and how he feels, or what he did in regard to retribution for what happened 20+ years ago in college. Would you want to be judged for the rest of your life for a decades old incident, especially if you aren’t the same person any longer? Time to LET. IT. GO., and move it along. What about Sean Peen’s (typo stays) current f**kery, or Tyga, because Tyga? So many Hollywood a-holes stirring the pot in the here and now, so little time for it to be spent getting worked up over something from Mr. Hamm’s frat days of yore that he already has dealt with privately.
When you do something awful like that, you have to be ready for people to bring it up all the time. Gotta take the good with the bad.
So because some people are worse or equally bad we should excuse him? He didn’t do some typical college bulls*it – he phisically and emotionally abused another person. That’s inexcusable. So nope, I will not let it go. And I’m in my early 20s and don’t know anyone who’s done such things.
If we’re going by that logic, we can say that Mel Gibson’s sh*t happend almost a decade ago. Let it go people. No?
@wtf….That is a fair statement, and I agree to an extent. Imo though, I would like people to leave themselves open to the possibility JH has remorse for the idiotic things he did when he was in school, and is not the same person he used to be. As a social worker, I see people showing emotional growth all the time, and feel that if they can change, why can’t he change as well?
Do the people you see to show growth also get Golden Globes, adoration and millions of dollars?
Do the people you see to show growth also get Golden Globes, adoration and millions of dollars?
@locke lamora…I don’t think Hamm’s actions should be excused, there was no excuse for what he did. I’m just questioning whether an incident (albeit an awful incident) he engaged in during his adolescence/ early adulthood, should forever define the type of person he is for the rest of his life. I’m not aware of reports of him being an abusive dick over the past couple of decades, so maybe he did learn from his mistakes and has strived to be a better human being. It is not uncommon for people to see the err of their young and dumb ways as they age.
As for Mel, there have been multiple instances over the years where he has proved over and over again he’s a total shithead. He hasn’t shown growth and likely never will. Mel is just one of those people who will never learn. Imo though, there may be hope for JH whose past actions shouldn’t be excused, but also hasn’t appeared to mirror MG’s pattern of abusive douchebaggery.
Yeah…I agree with your overall sentiment..not sure I would have phrased it like you did though lol.
What Hamm did was f*cking horrific but from what we know, it was an isolated incident that also involved a group of frat members. I only point that out because herd mentality is so powerful. I do feel differently about him now, but I just can’t muster up the same a level of hate as everyone else around here. I would feel much differently if it was a pattern of behavior from him and he had showed repeated instances of abuse. Also, I have always hated fraternities because this is the kid of crap I assume happens more often than we hear about.
@Locke-What Mel Gibson did was not just “one” thing though. It was a series of things starting with homophobia leading to verbal and physical abuse of Oksana, and still continuing to this day. In between that were racist tirades, various drunk driving incidents, and continued violent and misogynistic behavior.
Look, we all have varying ways of gauging character and we all have varying degrees of judgment. I get that the incident with Hamm was an extreme one but to me a repeated pattern of inexcusable behavior well into adulthood is more indicative of an awful person than a single incident that happened when one was in their early twenties, which I find more forgivable.
Just my opinion of course and I’m sure everyone here will disagree with me but meh.
@Kitten…lol, I suppose my phrasing can be somewhat forceful at times, but I will venture to say we seem to share similar views about Hamm’s situation. Also wanted to add , as far as fraternities go, I totally get your (and most of the general public’s) distaste for them.
I do want to say that I had a very up close and personal experience with the Greek system in college. I never had a desire to be in a sorority, but I dated my now husband for three years throughout college and he was in a large fraternity at a different school than mine. I can honestly say all the guys in the frat were really cool, nice people, and violent/abusive hazing was not tolerated. They had to do a mandatory amount of charity work in the community to maintain their charter, and brothers who didn’t drink were not peer pressured , but actually coveted. “Dry” members were extremely popular because who better to be designated drivers for off campus events? All in all, it was just a fun experience and none of the stereotypical fraternity fcukery you would expect ever went down. I don’t doubt that there are plenty of frats out there that are nightmares, but I just wanted to share that not all of them are as bad as they are portrayed in the media!
I tend to agree with Eyerollwithit and Kitten’s assessments. That’s of course also largely based on my own experiences of the people I’ve met in my life. I fully acknowledge I don’t know Hamm and have no clue how he treats people on a regular basis.
@eyewollwithit I see your perspective, the unfairness and short-sightedness of continuing to judge, and that people can change. I read in detail about this, I had thought “how bad could it be?” I can’t look it up for specifics because it was far too disturbing…vicious assaults including the words kidney, genitals, spine, and fire – and that still doesn’t really capture the horror.
The victim needed medical treatment for serious injuries and frankly, I don’t know how even with therapy he’d get past remembering what was done to him. Hamm’s behavior was violent and sadistic. Then, he skipped out of town and did not face the charges, whereas his co-accused buddies did. That says nothing good about his character, especially the lack of accountability. Years later an arrest warrant was issued. Years after that he cut a deal for probation, no record, assault charges dropped.
What he did was commit multiple brutal physical assaults. Despite being a ringleader he somehow avoided any criminal record & only got probation. A current interview with his victim made no mention of any contact or apology from Hamm. There appears to be no retribution or reparations at all.
If Hamm truly has changed, when this story broke he would have owned it, confronted his past, spoken about the horrors of bullying, the need to take responsibility for one’s actions…he would have shown accountability, remorse, acknowledgement of the trauma. He likely would have expressed deep conflict at playing a dark, boozing bully to critical acclaim… Zip, nothing, not a peep.
The violent acts were disturbing and displayed a lack of empathy. The repeated lack of accountability, even now quietly waiting for things to go away, says a lot. That he could take on a role that is such a parallel, without it turning his stomach, suggests a lack of empathy. That role plus owning his past could have made for some enlightened discussions – still, not a peep. Lack of empathy and no accountability speaks to someone without a conscience, who hasn’t changed.
Sorry, that was long! I’m passionate about bullying. Accountability is a hot-button too. A family of overt & covert bullies does that to you.
I wasn’t aware that Mel repeteadly treated people horribly, I though it was a one off when he was pulled over drunk, my mistake.
I think what bothers me with Hamm is that the whole story came out what, a few months ago? And people already gloss over it and act like it didn’t happen. I also can’t imagine how someone could do that to another human being. I just can’t. There are no fraternities in my country so that was also the first time I heard of hazing.
Fine, he might be a changed man, but I’m still not ready to act like it didn’t happen just because he’s hot and charming ( to some).
Jon Hamm’s fan has made some very good points 🙂
If he raped a kid, I’d personally kill him myself …. but he was an idiot 20 year old trying to fit in. He’s an idiot 45 year old STILL trying to fit in. Sadly, he’s failing miserably. Comedy is not his bag. It never was and it never will.
I don’t care what ANY of you (reluctant) fans say!
@justagirl: well said!
I also work in the social field and I agree, some people are able to change. But the majority is not.
What he did was HORRIBLE, inexcusable, regardless of peer pressure etc. He physically assaulted and brutalized another human being. Sadly that is par for the course in a lot of fraternities – well not to that extreme, but the abusive mentality is ingrained. Saying that, he is obviously a troubled guy whose alcoholism might have been in its infancy then. There are people who are darlings until they take a drink, truly wouldn’t hurt a fly, but the alcohol unlocks something tormented and dark in them. He was young and dumb and yes cruel, but he hasn’t exhibited any of this behavior (the abuse) that we know of as an adult. His Mom died when he was 10 – again, not an excuse, but I have had a few friends who lost their Moms young who really went off the rails in their teens. Most children who lose a parent don’t get to grieve or process it until much later on.
His life obviously went in a different direction after the attack, this man I’m sure suffered horribly but also seems to have moved on and has a good life – he’s a doctor and a lawyer with a family. This has colored my opinion of Hamm, no doubt, but I don’t think it’s something he should be judged on until the end of time. Many people in Hollywood have done far worse things we never hear about, as grown ass men, not in the confines of a weird fraternity culture.
Yeah I was a big fan of his before that came out.
I think what makes it so hard for me to shake is how cruel he was. It was a sustained vicious cruel attack on that guy.
Most of us have probably done hurtful and dumb things when we were young and drunk or high but I cannot IMAGINE doing what Jon Hamm did. I’m sorry but you’ve got to have something pretty dark inside to basically take pleasure in torturing someone.
I think Jon Hamm gets a free pass because he’s a white, conventionally attractive male with progressive political views. If any of those things were missing people would be hating him as much as they hate Sean Penn, Chris Brown, Mitt Romney (another a-hole that engaged nasty hazing, etc)
@Keaton… IDK, but I think (some) people tend to give Hamm a pass because as I alluded to upthread, he appears to have learned from his admittedly shitty mistake in college. There hasn’t been a history (as far as the public is aware of), of Hamm showing an abusive streak. As Americans we love to tear celebs down as much as we love to build them up, but many of us do tend to give people second chances. Everybody loves a good comeback story. People like Chris Brown and Sean Penn have an extensive record of doing the same bs over and over again, and the public has gotten weary of giving celebs like them 3rd, 4th, and 5th chances. I think that Hamm has pretty much stuck to the straight and narrow as far as treating other people( despite his admitted drinking problem). As of yet, he hasn’t crapped all over the public goodwill he has generated, so he is more apt to get a pass than chronic violent and reckless celebs like Brown and Penn.
Another example is Justin Bieber, who despite being young, white, progressive, and relatively attractive, has rightly become a target for public ire over the past couple of years. No matter how many chances he has been given to redeem himself, he keeps on being an entitled, ungrateful azzhole. People are sick of giving him chances because his behavior is seeming less like an adolescent phase and more like a permanent part of his personality. JH’s situation on the other hand, is easier to give a pass to because it appears as if he knew he did something terrible, and has demonstrated his remorse over the years by losing that violent edge and behaving like a decent member of society.
@eyerollwithit
I think Jon Hamm has benefited from keeping a pretty low public profile. I didn’t even know about his excessive drinking and supposed womanizing until right before he went into rehab but apparently it was an open secret. Moreover he wasn’t even in the public eye when he committed his heinous crime unlike Chris Brown and Sean Penn. It’s very possible (I’d guess it’s even *likely*) this was not an isolated incident just like it was not an isolated incident for Brown or Penn either.
RE: Sean Penn
I am no Sean Penn apologist but I’m pretty sure he hasn’t done anything violent for 10 years or so and yet it’s always brought up in the comment section of posts about him – and often in the body of the post too. I don’t object to that at all. I just object to the double standard Jon Hamm is being afforded for some reason. Penn has shown a dickish streak in interviews but personally I think Hamm comes across as a dick in interviews too. It’s just that people agree with his targets: The Kardashians, Bieber, Republicans, etc. Also, Penn gets zero credit for any of his humanitarian efforts. I don’t think that should count for “remorse” but it’s greater evidence of it than simply *assuming* Hamm shows it simply because we don’t hear recent stories about him lighting a young man’s testicles on fire.
RE: Beiber
I’m pretty sure he was caught on tape saying the N-word. He’s not a progressive figure at all. He’s earned people’s ire and it’s amazing to me that he has such a strong career.
Like I said, I’m not defending Sean Penn. Personally I support bringing up the things he’s done in the past given that he’s never shown the least bit of remorse for them But I think the same should hold for Jon Hamm too. What he did was shocking and despicable and I’m amazed how few people even seem aware of it. It almost reminds me of the early Bill Cosby allegations. They came out 20+ years ago but noone wanted to believe them at the time. The public just brushed them under the rug because he was such a beloved public figure. Hamm isn’t at that level but he’s a highly respected white male actor that’s conventionally attractive and has all the correct opinions. People don’t like seeing those images shattered.
How much of that is true? I’m guilty of rushing to judgement a lot myself … but if he really TRUELY raped this guy with a claw hammer, he’d be sent to jail.
Sorry, I just don’t buy the entire “report” … though haven’t read the entire report to be fair.
no love or even “like” for hamm after the stories of his frat hazing. that kind of behavior is beyond hazing. it’s reflective of a depraved and sadistic character.
also, he looks like such a douche now.
The American fan letter was so humble and sweet.
John “Green Eggs & Hamm” just does not do a thing for me. He always strikes me as greasy and in need of a hot shower and a close shave…although he does appear to have shaved here.
I’m one of the very many women who think that while “Don Draper” is smokin’ hot (especially in the first few seasons), Jon Hamm himself is kind of meh. Good looking guy, sure, but good looking in a ”CNN newscaster” kind of way, not someone I’d lust over.
on fleek
Ugly.
… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lewis_(comedian)
Channing Tatum’s hair looks fug as hell. Even Orange Pitt’s plugged hair looks better
When I saw him pose on the red carpet next to his wife, I thought “Ok didn’t his wife tell him how bad his hair looks !!”. Surely the BOTH of them can’t possibly think that looked good. Those pics aren’t as bad as it looked on TV though…so greasy and flat and not flattering at all. He can do better.
Or maybe Jenna’s sick of all the women hitting on her husband, and assured him his wet rug looked great… *cough*
Not to mention that weird skit/presentation thing with Jonah Hill. I don’t know what they were serving for drinks last night, but that was some strong stuff.
I agree, that was cringe worthy.
marketing ploy, dear.
How come no article today on Brad Pitt? He looked majorly transformed. I thought he looked too young and an identical version of daughter Shiloh.
wonderful WONDERFUL plastic surgery my dear 🙂 … also Fraxel does wonders too.
Just read that Ryan Coogler is directing Black Panther. This is freaking…exciting.