While I am legitimately disappointed that so many non-white artists were snubbed with #OscarSoWhite, I’m also a little bit disappointed that Kristen Stewart was snubbed too. Kristen walked away from this year’s awards season with some surprise critics’ awards for her work in Clouds of Sils Maria, and there were some hopes that she would make a late surge and end up with an Oscar nomination. Alas, it was not to be. But a lot of people like the current version of K-Stew. She’s less lip-bitey and she’s leaning in to her indie roots. Kristen is currently at Sundance to promote the drama Certain Women, and she chatted with E! News about what’s next for her career:
Whether she’s offered roles in franchises all the time: “They’re not too common. Trust me, I would love to find a big doozy of a movie that’s interesting and worthwhile.”
Would she play a superhero? “Maybe. Go print that—I can’t wait to play a superhero.”
She really wants to direct: “Hopefully as soon as humanly possible. I really want to. I have to find the right thing. I started working when I was nine. I love this industry. I love what movies can do so I’ll find my story.”She’s been to Sundance many times & she loves indie films: “I’m not totally biased. I really like making the small ones and I like making the big ones. It’s just when you get the right people together who really care about something, who are not solely interested in getting just love and attention and money and stuff and it’s really for the love of the meditation on a subject and getting into something and baring your soul, [Sundance] is the perfect place to do it.”
Since I was snowed in for the better part of three days (damn you, snowpocalypse!), I watched Avengers: Age of Ultron like three times on one of the premium cable channels. I was struck again by Elizabeth Olsen’s Scarlett Witch role, which, to Olsen’s credit, she played well, the perfect mix of camp and legit drama. I wonder if that’s the kind of thing Kristen wishes she was up for – a supporting part in a Marvel movie, something like that. Or does she wish she could be Wonder Woman, steering her own franchise? I think it’s interesting that Kristen has been saying variations of “I’d love to do another big movie/franchise again” for the past year too – I mean, I know she’s not broke so it’s not like she needs the money. I think she’s just spent some time reevaluating what Twilight gave her, and she’d like another crack at a franchise, this time as an adult.
Oh, and I saw this too late – Kristen spoke to Variety and she was asked about gender pay disparity. You can watch the video here, which I would recommend. She seems to acknowledge her privilege at the beginning, but she also basically tells women in the industry to suck it up. At one point, she says: “Instead of sitting around and complaining about that, do something. Go write something, go do something. And that’s easy to say. Like, f–k, it’s hard to get movies made. It’s a huge luxury. Who gets to just make movies? But that subject is just so prevalently everywhere right now, and it’s boring.” Oh, the discussion about inequality is boring, K-Stew? Just wait until she tackles #OscarsSoWhite.
Photos courtesy of Getty, Fame/Flynet.
While I agree in theory, she does miss the mark. Minorities can write whatever they like but until the industry accepts it and provides opportunities, support, backing and finance how exactly will anything change?
The whole “its boring” thing just makes her sound ignorant
+100000
So true…and she sounds like a tool. What a surprise!
If you think she sounds like a tool, go *watch* that video – it’s worse than I thought. Ugh. She’s SO unpleasant. She also seems strung out, scratching at her face and racoon eyes,.all herky jerky like. Too much coffee..or something? Geez. Blech.
Yeah, I actually find Kristen Stewart a lot more boring than the pay disparity topic. I keep reading articles about her because I keep getting lured into thinking that she’s growing up and looking at the world with a broader maturity, but nope! I think this is the last one I’ll click on, she disappoints every time.
“I keep getting lured into thinking that she’s growing up” Is that the new Sparkles stan excuse for being all up in her business ? Sure hun. Dont you have a dead career to fawn over?
LOL Abra, give it up. Her comments are everywhere, it’s not exactly being up in her business to hear about it and have an opinion, Rob fan or not.
To abra: I have no idea what you are talking about. I come to Celebitchy regularly, and Kristen has had many articles here. Occasionally, I will read a headline that makes me feel like she’s maturing, but every time it gets followed up by something like this. Just that above picture alone says it all for me, she comes off as a bratty, entitled and uneducated teenager. I’m not going to click on any more articles about her, just like I don’t click on any articles about Justin Bieber or Miley Cyrus. It’s not a boycott, I just don’t have any interest in what any of them have to say anymore, and I’ve given them too much of my attention already!
Why don’t “minorities” support the movies? Or the are no rich POC who are looking to invest in movies? Look at music industry and successful black artists and producers
@Gina
You’re describing an apartheid like system though.
So you (if white) get to take advantage of the Sonys, Universals, Fox’s, Disney’s, Warner Bros., Dreamworks…while a POC cannot?
Isn’t that like telling black/asian/hispanic folk, well gee…if you wanna work at a Google….go create a new ‘black’ (or insert ethnicity here) Google-esque company of your own?
You reference music which is quite ironic. Music was highly segregated way into the late 70s. It took disco and Michael Jackson becoming worldwide phenoms to get them to wake up.
Record companies used to act much like H’wood and the movie studios of today. Making assumptions about what blacks will spend, and making assumptions about what whites won’t if blacks are involved. (See David Bowie’s chat w/MTVs Mark Goodman – hard to believe that MTV locked out black performers when they’re the lifeblood of the music industry, but guess what? They did.)
Films are the same way, people are always shocked when black product sells and breaks records all over the world, they try to infer things will change in the face of that success…then they typically go back to the same old school institutionalized racism excuses and hyping mia washelewski’s acting career, and making the VF Hollywood edition as white as can be, with 10 different versions of kstew and Rooney Mara on the cover.
..and suggestions to make your own shite (in this case billion dollar conglomerate Which is always soooo nice to hear. :-/
‘Minorites’ do support movies, which is why some of the biggest block busters of the past three years have featured a very diverse cast. Any other concerns?
Firstly, it shouldn’t be their problem to sort out.
Secondly, unless even hideously weathly minorities have the clout and money of major studios behind them from beginning to end, I fail to see how they’re comparable, even if they get money to fund projects?
Every.
Single.
Time.
Please just stop, Gina.
Again, with the ‘judgey,’ – the girl can’t restrain herself from speaking to the lowlies from her place on high, instructing them how NOT to be or do…something.
Sometimes she name drops (‘I don’t want to be a star like Angelina Jolie,’ said Kstew a few yrs back who already had that perceived Rupert Sanders home wrecking scandal, a mega watt high profile romance with a co-star, a fling/relationship with a woman, a couple of tats, a huge franchise behind her, and who, while she has no Oscar yet like AJ, probably wants one bad..OH!..and she wants to DIRECT…seem familiar?)…sometimes she does not name drop…but the effect is the same: she’s always here to tell you what’s not cool and how to be cooler, and complaining about people who act in a way she never would.
Gah. I really think she has the worst personality. I was a supporter for a long time. But that’s not the brash ignorance of youth you can explain away, that’s just obnoxious ignorance and arrogance.
Also #oscarssowhite in a way is reflective of Stewart’s career. Has she bowled anyone over enough to warrant a nod in anything? No. Yet it’s HER name, not Elba’s, not Jordan’s, not Ferrara’, or Rodrigues, not Mbuthu-raw – who is/was being touted on message boards and by columnists for what is now a three yr old movie that the French liked her in that earned two dollars at the box office. See where her bar is, compared to others?
That’s what is meant by the hashtag.
A large part of me wonders if her “Google me, I’m not hiding” statement and now the aptly timed comment from Ian McKellan that “…Hollywood still discriminates against gays…” didn’t do more to hinder her Oscar contention. She was brilliant and deserves all the awards.
I’ve never been a fan of KStew but I thought the recent emergence back into Hollywood was going to make it safe to reconsider…but nooooooo she HAD to say something stupid.
Exactly how I feel, Alex. Exactly how I feel!
I came away from warching that video thinking: “Lady, are you doing coke now?”.
I legitimately hate her. She has nothing interesting to say and she’s entitled and snobby. And a bad actress! Play a happy normal person and show some range otherwise you’re just playing you over and over.
Those conversations are not nearly as boring as your acting.
We’re done here, cause that Is all I wanted to point out, a Bad actress with f-u money saying that talking about money is boring as she’s made a mint of exhaling loudly and eyerolling, Bye Felicia
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Can’t stand this little chickie.
Indeed
She is so dumb she makes Bella Swan looks smart.
Her comments are so ignorant. A really dumb woman
+1
Some people should never open their mouth.
I guess these conversations are boring when you never have to worry about money and legions of fans think that you crap glitter and unicorns. For the rest of us, these conversations are necessary and can mean the difference between earning a fraction of what men earn and earning what our male co-workers earn for the same work. To us little people this is an important issue regardless of the industry.
She should try to say that to Gillian Anderson who nearly 20 years after was offered half of the pay of her male co-star, who had to fight to let her character walk near Molder instead than behind. I would love to see what happen after.
@Eleonor She obviously didn’t work hard enough to deserve the same paycheck. Pfff. *sigh*. According to Kristen she should just shut up and work harder from now on and she will get it. lol
Whoa. What? I knew about the pay but they wouldn’t allow her to walk side by side with him? LOL Wow. That is a new low.
You don’t want to talk about gender disparity? Fine, but you don’t say that it’s boring. This “boring” issue needs to be talked
Exactly – if she doesn’t want to speak on it publicly, that’s her right, but to call it boring is so incredibly dismissive of all the hard work women have had to do to this point, and STILL have to do.
She’s the beneficiary of all that hard work too – she was paid equally to her costar for those Twilight messes. I bet she wouldn’t find it boring if she’d been offered have of the guy’s salary for the sequels.
Rolls eyes at her obvious inability to recognize her privilege and leave it at that…nope, she had to keep speaking words to Variety, including the brilliant statement “guys make more money because their movies make more money”
She strikes me as the kind of person who is most influenced by the people/person she’s most recently hanging with, in this case, she’s doing promo for a movie starring three women and directed by a woman.
So in her superficial mind it’s like “look at this kick ass woman who just directed me, she’s “doing something” not just complaining”. This wildly discounts how unfair the process can be for most females in Hollywood, including her female director Reichardt .
I like Reichardt but it seems even her comments are somewhat of a WTF. I don’t see it as a losing conversation as she is quoted as saying. So between her & KS’s comments I just don’t know , I guess its a tossup – smh:
Reichardt, who’s been interrogated about the role of women in Hollywood since her debut 22 years ago, says she feels a bit trapped by the unchanging discussion. “This is a losing conversation for any woman to have—to hell with the women-in-cinema thing,” she says, sighing more out of fatigue than pique.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-14/the-film-independent-director-kelly-reichardt
Thanks @roses. You actually confirmed my thoughts about Stewart. She’s hangin with Reichardt, listening to her answer questions about gender equality in film and BOOM – Stewart is answering in a similar way!
As for Reichardt, I suppose her POV comes from years and years of creating really interesting films but not reaching the same level of mainstream/Hollywood success of male filmmakers who started out at the same time. I sort of get that she must be tired answering the same question when there is little progress or results.
Wow! She actually said that after they were planning on paying one of her previous costars, Charlize Theron, $10 million less than Chris Hemsworth and only the Sony hacks made her able to renegotiate for equal pay. That’s on the SWatH franchise she was dropped from, so is she really saying she didn’t know?
Theron had the longer career, the audience draw, the lead to his support in the previous film, and the Academy Award but she still gets paid less that someone who was generally unknown before Thor? How was that because his film made more? I honestly think they have this as a habit in order to blame the woman for not negotiating, while using it to justify focussing the film/show on the man: well, he’s paid more so we need to get our money’s worth. Meanwhile he can go on to negotiate a higher fee on his next project, along with the implication that *his* star is what made the film/tv show work.
Same crap with The X-Files and FOX trying to pay Gillian Anderson less than David Duchovny – yet again!
Well at least I can stop feeling that my dislike for her since the Twi franchise – because of the crap she kept saying in interviews – might have been premature. And if people wonder why she’s so strongly disliked it’s because people *want* to like her at first or just feel neutral but she maintains a kind of permanent subtle condescension that she just isn’t talented enough to justify. It’s tiresome trying to like this hipster faker, and frankly, why bother? She seem terminally self involved despite constantly trying to deflect the notion.
She should stick to indies and fashion shoots. This sudden flip of opinion on big frachises proves to me that where that scandal – the one she helped precipitate – hit her hardest was in the wallet. I knew it wasn’t an accident she chose to star in one in the first place. I guess the contrived and convenient Sils Maria hype (which thankfully didn’t convince the US PtB) and being okay with being paid less than say someone like Miles Teller will put her back on that list, for those checking for her.
They are trying hard with this fetch to get her back on her self-derailed franchise track.
Wonder how many white women would be climbing over themselves to complain if we got rid of the ‘Best Female Actor’ side of the competition and returned the Oscars to their most whitest of roots.
No guaranteed female slot for you ladies.
Nope.
There’s only 10 ‘Best Actor’ nomination spots…let’s see which one of you even comes close to cracking the spot against a man and which ones of you suddenly become vocal ‘allies’ again.
*sips tea while staring daggers*
Ha! Perfect.
*sips tea while staring daggers*. Just visualising this made me laugh😊
Death glare level 9 girl.
Haha. Genius.
well,……..”BOOM”!
I just want you to know that I always look forward to your comments.
Why thank you, that’s so nice!
I was thinking this the other day, the only reason women are recognized by the industry is they have their own category. If it were all mixed in together, there would be maybe 1 or 2 nominated every year at most.
It’s also really a sad statement on female minorities in the industry, when all of the complaints about people of color who were snubbed were men. There are so few roles for women of color, I haven’t seen anyone even mention a snub in that category.
All of this, sad but true.
They should try it. I’d like to hear the crocodile outrage, lol.
I’m ready, I got teacups for days.
Let’s see what ladies are really ‘bored’ of the discussion.
Good point.
She’s impossible to like. Stuck in sulky teenager mode for life. Now, that’s boring.
You give her more credit than I! She reminds me of my 5 year old!
The entire interview is just her begging for work.
lol, Glad I’m not the only one who got that impression.
Well, she could always learn French…
She really should not do interviews. I realise she acknowledges her privilege but that doesn’t make her statement sound any less like a privileged white girl doling out advice. I have a hard time following her train of thought when she answers interview questions, so I can only imagine what a terrible director she would make.
Agreed.
Also, she should take an English course. “Prevalently everywhere” is wrong English.
Prevalent = Its everywhere. You dont use them together like she did.
Its embarrassing to hear her speak.
Nah I think she’s saying the question is boring. Why ask these actresses how they feel about the pay gap when the industry can make strives to changing that.
No one wants to be paid less for the same amount of work.
The question has turned into click bait and minimal action.
She said “But that subject is just so prevalently everywhere right now, and it’s boring.” This is ignorant and dumb
You’re right, she does.
I’m a fan of hers and considering that she’s spoken so much about gender equality (even before it became a clickbait issue) I didn’t take her comment as being dismissive of the subject on the whole but rather the clickbait questioning.
Or maybe she is bored of talking about the subject and would rather do something.
Idk but I’m not ready to indict her for the boring comment.
@Nola
I understand that you’re a fan but her comments are really bad and ignorant
I think Cate Blanchett said something about this subject/question being boring, and people were ticked.
People always say, “Industry can just make changes.”
Now I realize we’re talking about millionaires here but directing and production is a BILLION dollar job. Having a studio that can employ and pay all the necessary workers takes BILLIONS.
How exactly is someone in the industry supposed to magically create these companies overnight? Most actors take decades to do it and even then can only put out one film every 5 years of more.
i don’t know how to change the industry as a whole but I agree with what Kristen said. You have to do (I.e. Make)something.
Ava du vernay, Lin Manuel Miranda and (now) Nate Parker used the tools and advantages they had to tell stories about people who looked like them. And they did this by hustling and now the industry is looking to them for more ideas. They made something that people wanted and these actions has created change in the industry.
And you don’t even have to do it on that scope. Look at the you tubers and viners racking in the money telling their stories. Think back to the Zoe story on Twitter. Bc of 150 tweets, a young woman was able to create a platform for herself. All those things took action.
@Nola
Are you serious? There is much to do for gender disparity and talk about it is a first step. For example JLaw’s essay gave so much attention at the problem.
@Nola
I think ‘you have to do something’ is pretty agreed upon universally.
It’s the how, the actual mechanics of producing change that is where it gets complicated. All three individuals you mentioned are indeed working hard to get their stories out but they are still entirely dependent on mostly white and male studios agreeing to give them funding and resources. Ava specifically has been someone who’s journey after Selma has been well documented as being somewhat bumpy. She’s not giving up but that doesn’t mean that her journey isn’t being hampered both things outside of her control and work ethic.
I agree about Vine and YouTube but the amazing things with those people is they’re creating smaller content on a platform that encourages individual’s being their own promoter and distributor of their ideas. Of course even in YouTube circles you can hear many POC complain about how they’re given less opportunities and respect than their fellow white counterparts.
It would have been better if she had just made it about taking action instead of dismissing the whole topic as boring though.
“Prevalently everywhere?”
Tell me more, Kristen.
I just commented on that before I read your comment . lol
It is boring to keep going over the same topic over and over without doing something to change it.
Gender equality has to be fought for. No one is going to hand anything over to you.
Look at Gillian from the X Files. She’s a great example of someone fighting for her worth.
Change doesn’t happen by sitting on the sidelines.
@Tig the comments hear show@lovemessg it is boring! If you want it in Hollywood, you have to fight for it. Gillian was able to show the boss that she was worth it. They heard it loud and clear that the fans loved Gillian. Neither Gillian or Kristen is afraid to stand up for themselves and other women. Like Gillian, Kristen has gone out and craved the career she wants. Kristen make a point of working with some of the most talented women in Hollywood. Instead of berating Kristen, people need to do their part in helping the gender inequalities in Hollywood.
Right, and I (and you), only learned of Gillian’s experiences because she answered a question and talked about them.
UNLIKE Stewart.
Gillian didn’t huff, roll her eyes and say this is so boring and ditch the question.
Gillian contributed to the conversation in a major way this week. Announcing how her character was subserviant to the male hero initially, basically a sidekick and how she was paid less. Then shockingly revealing they tried that crap in 2016 with Dana Scully AGAIN!
Stewart could have shared her experience even if it wasn’t full of drama or inequity. For instance I heard she was the payroll winner of the franchise, and she shores herself up in negotiations and gave Pattinson a leg up by banding together with him that next year (2nd twilight) they each got 12.5 mil and she wasn’t even 19 yrs old.
Stewart’s psychology seems to suggest she doesn’t like talking about how easy she’s had it. She’s all about the angst. Its why she once said the incredibly ignorant ‘I want life to fck me over…things come too easy for me.’ So I don’t think she’s had bad negotiations Ala Lawrence. But that doesn’t mean she has to shite on everyone else who has.
She’s really embarassing
Somebody give her some shampoo.
How long will it take for the KS defense force to post that she was misquoted or on a higher plan so that mere mortals can’t understand her words, or better yet, “honest”. She really is a case of two steps forward, three steps back. Tone deaf to say the least.
I’m surprised her people didn’t get her to fix that strong desire for self-sabotage before pushing her back towards franchises.
She wants to appear above it all/bored by/’too real’ to be playing the game while playing it. She can though because I’m pretty sure her and her people are quite aware that her biggest and most loyal fanbase members have an inside track on industrial strength denial, so they can have her crap the bed repeatedly in interviews and never feel the need to do better.
I give them props for that Sils Maria hustle, though. Now *that* was fine work.
I realize awhile back that dhe is about as deep as a puddle, but this has been a hot topic for quite some time. Either she is not listening to her people or she needs new people to tell her she is not as smart as she think she is when she speaks.
What?! This girl made another comment that made her sound ignorant and out of touch?! I’m shocked! Shocked I tell you!
She likely wants a big franchise because as the Twi-glow fades it will become harder and harder to fund indie movies with her name. People do stop caring. I don’t think they’ll want her though; too much baggage and poor fanboy/fan girl credibility.
Please, please, please keep this “actress” away from any kind of superhero film…any film, period would actually be best!.
Oh, yeah…wasn’t she supposed to leave Hollywood and go make…things-furniture or something??…
If they let Joss Whedon ruin another superhero franchise, I don’t doubt that he’d pick her. She strikes me as his type.
Someone better start a prayer circle stat.
Did anyone watch the video? She rolled her eyes before the interviewer had even asked the question…weird. And she looks so angry! Maybe she should get some sleep, would help with both her mood and those bags under her eyes.
She’s rich, she doesn’t care if other women struggle with inequality. It doesn’t affect her. And it never will.
@NN….yes, I actually sat through the video. I personally found it difficult to even try and interpret her word salad because her mannerisms and overall affect were so bizarre. I know we’re all used to kstew doing her whole “twitchy” schick, but in the video she took twitchy to a whole other level. The way she frequently jumped around with the subject and drifted off into total randomness, her pressured speech, the constant fidgeting–and not to mention how “rough” she looks at 25. I was working and in grad school (both full time) at 25, and that is an age where most of us can go a few days with some sleep deprivation and not look quite as, um… “messy” as she does during that interview.
She absolutely presented as high on something, and I’m not talking about the green stuff. I’ve seen people with some severe jet lag, and I’ve seen people high on drugs/stimutants, and JUST IMO, Kristen looked like she fit into the latter category. Again, JMO, but I hope her handlers, friends, family, whoever….are helping her in a way that is keeping her healthy and away from the bad shit. But sadly, I doubt it because money.
Sorry, I don’t have a link to the clip but I watched that particular Stewart interview for Variety on the Jezebel website.
Sorry, I just realized the link for the same clip I watched last night is also given here during the story. I actually watched it again and wow, it’s even worse than I remembered.
But seriously, can anyone explain why she’s in a permanent bad mood? The happiest and most relaxed she ever looked was when she was banging that married director.
She’s the type that just wants to watch life career burn?
Batman reference for the win.
What an entitled a$$clown.
That’s easy to say when you’re in Kristens position of privilege. When you’ve been handed everything on a silver platter like her.
When you’re a regular person trying to get a decent job after years of study and unpaid internships, you can’t really push your boss. If I pushed my boss for equal pay for the same work by men on my level, I’d find myself fired. Like my co-worker who asked politely and was fired on the spot. Seriously messed up.
Shut up Kristen. These conversations need to happen or change won’t come. These conversations help women to build up to courage to ask what their male counterparts get without any effort. For people higher up in the food chain to realise it isn’t okay and women won’t put up with this double standard crap any longer.
Whoah I’m so sorry about your co-worker, it’s ridiculous how some bosses are so unnecessarily abusive.
Thank you 🙁 I couldn’t believe it she did it in such a polite and tasteful way! I couldn’t imagine my male counterparts asking without feeling entitled and enraged. Felt awful about it. Poor woman, there’s nothing we could do. Something needs to change, it just isn’t fair.
Agreed. Situations like that piss me off, punishing a woman for seeing value on herself and then on the other hand they want to use the excuse women don’t ‘barter’ for a higher salary.
I swear … *every* time I start to like this girl a little, she opens her mouth and puts a stop to that.
I know..i was going to give that clouds of movie on Netflix a go, but then she comes out with something ignorant like this and turns me right off.
I feel that way about her acting. People keep talking about it, so I give it a chance.
Then I feel like a sucker because all I see is the same awkward, twitchy, constipated, version of herself performance over and over. It is uncomfortable to watch her.
Still Alice – same
Clouds movie – same
Guantanamo movie – same but with hair in bun.
@insomniac
roflmao +1
Thank you Kristen! People complain, bitch and moan about gender inequality. Then don’t support movies about women, written by women, directed by women and starring women. If gender issues in Hollywood anger you, actually DO what you can do. Not everyone can make movies, but we can support the women, who do.
It is boring listening to all the talk and see not action. Last year Kristen was a part of a contest allowing women to write their own short films. The winner got the funding and help to make it.
Hollywood is about money. The start to addressing the issue is to show these female driven movies can make money.
They DO make money though! There have been there studies done recently showing that female-led films actually make MORE money on average than male-led films. But the men who run Hollywood dig their heels in and avoid the statisics and reality and pretend the opposite is true. They just don’t give a crap about giving women (and minoties) leads even if it makes them money.
It’s boring hearing someone repeat time-tested cliches that have been disproven over and over like they’re brand new epiphanies.
That’s boring.
Plus, I don’t think she’s aware that at the outside she claimed to be solo creative she ‘does not get bored,’ then at the close says she think the discussion ‘boring.’ Also, she was scratching at her face like a crack head. That may be her brand of awkward but i doubt it.
We you say people, which people?
Last I checked history books, “people” I think you’re referring to women and minorities built this country on finding a way out of no way, and building our own construct… For let’s say the last several generations. So explain what people are unaware that you need to DO something?
Only people who lack self awareness and education say things this ignorant. “Let’s talk down to women” thing here. Also what doors and opportunities have Kristen created or opened? Kristen is attending a festival that has the biggest selling sundance film bought by or of the “people” who’s DID something and a documentary getting praise by a Latina who DID something. Kirsten was afforded opportunities based on her parents positions and then offered role after role despite her mediocre performances, smoking bongs on her porch, scandalized directors, fired from a franchise to indie star. And good for her, but hard working “people aren’t afforded even a 1/10 of that opportunity. If you’re not going to shed light on a discussion or have no real experience to share then keep quiet. Hollywood invests a lot in her and this is all we’ve ever gotten, adult stuck in a petulant child body who lacks education. I wish her well but she’s a disgrace for her fellow women in film.
I just…can’t STAND this woman…a shitty actress that has connections up the wazzooo who enable, permit her shitty acting to get a pass, say STUPID ass things while a legion of deluded fans and paid off critics kiss her ass.
Go the fu*k away now!.
She always has that I’m so over it smug expression on her face. I don’t understand her appeal.
I do kind of get what she’s saying. The topic is important, but the way many people go on and on about it without actually doing anything is tiring.
Recently at my workplace some female employees have found out they’re paid less than the majority of the male employees on a similar level. They’ve been complaining on a water cooler level for weeks now. None of them has asked for a raise though, or spoken to management. I just found out none of them have ever asked for a raise during any performance evaluations, they’ve all just taken the company wide increases and never asked for a cent more. Management would actually like to pay them more so their stats didn’t look so sexist and shitty, but standard company policy is to not offer more than employees ask for, and since these women have asked for exactly nothing, management can’t offer anything. Literally all any of them have to do is ask for a meeting to discuss a salary increase, and they’ll get a big one and a sigh of relief. But no, instead bitch to me about how unfair everything is for the 100th time, that’ll solve the problem.
Look at the JLaw essay, or Gillian Anderson’s recent revelations. Yes they were underpaid/received lowball offers. Yes that sucks. But they didn’t just sit back and whine about it, they took charge and started demanding more, and they got it. Of course it’s annoying that they had to do that rather than just being paid equally to start with, but opining about how unfair it is while doing nothing about it is pointless. Do something.
People complain about the problems in Hollywood, but they even bother to support the women trying to make a difference?
Kate, I happen to agree that women generally have to be more assertive and demand equal pay.
BUT here is what I don’t understand: you say the management would like to pay the women more. Well, why don’t they? Why didn’t they pay the women an equal amount to begin with, from the day they employed them? And, having realized that there is a pay disparity, why does the policy require women stepping up to ask for their due, rather than saying “we have done a shitty job in the past. We are now redressing the situation by bringing all salaries in line”?
I have always negotiated my salary, from day one and through every yearly evaluation and promotion. But you know what, it was a combination of my own assertiveness, good (male) mentors, and a corporate policy that allowed me to feel safe doing the asking.
The situation you describe is very unfair to women. It puts the onus on the employees for something the company did wrong in the first place. Now they are saying that in order to set it right the responsibility is still not really on them. Has this policy at least been publicly stated? Have the employees been told “come and ask for equal pay and you won’t be treated like a problem employee?” Sorry but it sounds all sorts of messed up.
Management could pay the women the same as the men. They just choose not to to save money and use the “they didn’t ask for it” as a bullshit excuse.
If someone actually started a gender discrimination lawsuit against them the “they didn’t ask for a raise” excuse would not go very far.
They do pay people equally (experience vs. experience wise) when they start, of course. But then all the men and some of the women kept asking for various levels of raises throughout the years, and some women didn’t. Thus generally, the men are making more. I’m a woman and I’m making more than most of the men, because I’ve asked for a lot and I’ve gotten it.
Every performance evaluation we’re asked if we’re happy with our current salary. It’s a standard opening to discuss salary increases, and if you say anything other than ‘yes, completely’ you’re going to get some kind of raise. It’s not even a tough negotiating culture, if you ask for a crazy stupid amount you’re pretty much immediately offered the max they’re authorised to give, it’s a 2 minute conversation at the most.
Policy industry wide is that if you don’t ask, you don’t get a raise beyond the annual company wide increases. Honestly it’s been that way everywhere I’ve ever worked where I had a salary. Unless you work somewhere where there’s no negotiating or discussion, of course some people will be paid more than others. Management can’t keep handing out raises to thousands of people every time one person asks for one. For every person thrilled with their 6% raise, there’s someone like me who’s demanding 15%. Why would a business give everyone huge raises when many people are delighted with much smaller raises? It’s a huge waste of money. We’re not talking about minimum wage workers here, everyone’s starting out with an above average, industry standard salary, and working their way up from there.
I and other people have repeatedly told these co-workers to just go ask for big raises. They think they shouldn’t have to, despite that being how everyone else did it. Honestly I think they’re just really enjoying playing the victim right now, but hopefully that will wear off soon enough and they’ll schedule meetings.
Thanks for sharing your example. It’s not easy for people to relate to actresses, so stories like yours are interesting and important to read.
Just talking won’t change anything. Doing something to the best of your ability and resources will. That’s why I find JLaw’s article good, because she actually did demand more instead of just complaining. Ellen Page is another great example. She didn’t wait for a role to fall upon her, she produced her own movie. Even though it wasn’t a successful movies, it was still important and about women.
Here’s the problem I have with your post and with Kirsten: why do you assume these women are only talking and doing nothing else? And why is talking about it not significant in its own right? Because that seems pretty disingenuous to suggest silence is preferable when I’ve yet to see a single cause forwarded by the absence of discussion.
Most of the women who are making these complaints are not sitting around somewhere doing jack shit. They’re getting their PhDs, they’re working their way up the social ladder, they’re working for big name companies, they’re frontlining million dollar franchises …and they still aren’t seeing the same pay and respect as their male coworkers. That is the entire point, and I don’t understand why people aren’t getting that. I work in the medical field, and I see it constantly. CONSTANTLY. And the biological sciences aren’t exactly short on women.
Yeah, women should be assertive and work towards something else, but by that logic, men shouldn’t be skating by on their maleness, either. Yet we see that all the time, especially in media and Hollywood where female-led projects struggle to get off the ground while flop after flop featuring male protagonists gets green lighted by the studios. I get what you’re saying about women putting more walk behind their talk, but it’s not entirely fair to suggest your situation reflects the situation across the board. Just because men aren’t crediting women for their work doesn’t mean it wasn’t being done all along.
Just wanted to point out that EO’s accent in Avengers was horrible. Same with the guy who played her brother. Totally shitastic.
#askthemless That’s really all I got at this point.
LMAO
#don’tevenmakeeyecontactanymore
#makethemgoaway
Right? Ha ha.
I wonder if a trip to rehab or a “retreat” center is coming for her. She seems really unwell somehow. Not that that’s a defense of her comments.
@InvaderTak: I thought the same thing too!…she seems like she’s on something-cocaine is my first bet.
Stewie seems REALLY unwell..
Plot twist if there is, and it improves her acting.
If people don’t have good things to say why not just to shut up? unless of course, she wanted the headlines. Sometimes some SM attention/blacklash is better than none. She has been very low profile for years now, she probbaly thought about shaking things up a little and get attention. Her comment was idiotic.
First of all I was so appalled by the clickbaiting headline Variety used to garner some extra views and rts.
Secondly the reaction on social media to the misleading headline (very few actually bothered to watch the interview) was equally sad and scary. Mob mentality of social media is out of control.
As to her comment on just talking about inequality in industry, I think she is right. Just talking won’t help. This opinion is not new. On every equality and feminism thread there are always many people who say the actresses should stop taking and start actually doing something to change it. I think her use of boring in this context can be seen as dismissive, but that’s not how she meant it.
Still nothing that she said is as appalling as the reaction on social media to it.
The video of her actually speaking is worse! Just reading it is actually tame compared to her rolling her eyes and angrily defensive speech.
Plus, she’s wrong! Women DO statistically support female driven movies and women leads! And they DO make money!! So not only is she obnoxious, she’s also wrong!
I think she’s weirdly lucky that Variety screwed up the original headline that had “diversity” instead of “gender inequality”.
It has thrown some sympathy her way – which takes focus away from the stupid things she did say about inequality. Gives more reason for people not to watch the video.
Because if you did watch the video you can see there is still plenty of reason to take offense to Stewarts perfect storm of inarticulateness and privileged ignorance.
I actually thought her comments were WORSE when I watched them in context. Even overlooking the blatant ignorance as to reality of what’s really happening and the domino effect it has down the social ladder, it’s so demeaning to imply she’s gotten to where she was because she’s working hard. AS IF THE REST OF US ARE NOT.
But madi the people who are talking are doing something. Jennifer Lawrence, Lena Dunham, Jessica chastain are hardly lay abouts. Her comments are actually really strange because the most outspoken people are actors who are arguably just as busy or more so than Stewart.
This is my favorite response to Kristen’s nonsense: https://twitter.com/HeatherMatarazz/status/691768587284037632
I love this.
UGH. Her comment about “Men make more money then women because their films make more money” is wrong on EVERY conceivable level. Go look up the statistics — there has been a multitude of studies done recently that conclude female-led films make more money on average than male-led films. By her logic, it’s actually women who should be making more!
Another example of what happens when actors speak without scripts?
Here is what I want to know. What is Sag and aftra doing or been doing for minority actors or the gender pay disparity? They seem to be silent and they shouldn’t be. At least I haven’t heard any commentary by them about any of these issues.
Although a pretty girl she is boring on screen and off screen. An actress can bare her soul equally as well as an actor and both can get paid same for the same amount of work.
I saw her performance and thought she played herself, nothing award worthy.
and some people are disappointed that she did’t get an Oscar nom for playing herself…. go figure
What did SHE do to succeed in HW? Used her family connections and screwed a married director for a big role? Does she mean all the women in HW should shut up and do the same?
I think she screwed the director after she got the role. She’d already done the twilight series she didn’t need to screw for a role.
For the KStew fans on this thread:
http://www.laineygossip.com/Kristen-Stewart-on-diversity-and-gender-equality-in-new-interview-from-Sundance/42867
The Pajiba article is worth reading too. Her comments are all over the place. She manages to acknowledge the issue, acknowledge her privilege, and then insult everyone who isn’t in the same position she is in.
Yep. Pretty much it Anname. LOL.
Yes, she started so well. I was YES when i started reading, then very fast was like NO, shut up! God, big ignorance. loll
Jesus Christ, this girl goes from 0 to horrible so fast it could be a skill.
Kristen Stewart should read more.
And speak less!
Complaints that things are BORING remind me of my daughter. Who is five.
Should be interesting to revisit her when she’s 45. Lots of work still available, Kristen? Getting the same pay as before? The same as the men in the same movie? Not bored?
Is she even getting work now? The whole interview read like a teenager trying so hard to seem unbothered but really desperate for someone to offer them something stable and long-term.
She strikes me as someone Hollywood was comfortable forgetting. She does the indie scene which doesn’t have a ton of women right now, but in terms of the big roles there’s just no demand for her. They certainly moved that Snow White franchise without her.
(Ironically that COULD have been her ‘superhero’ franchise if not for that pesky little affair bomb she got into)
Really good point about the Snow White franchise. Both she and the director “affaired” their way out of that project.
She s getting a lot of indies which is probably what she can get it. She even had to audition to Woody Allen. The big studio and better baity roles she isn’t getting and probably won’t while Jlaw, Stone, Brie, Ronan are around making bigger splashs. The studios will go for them and there are tons of other on the lines too, Daisy now, Olsen, Robbie, Watson, Woodley… Its pretty clear she is crazy after a studio role again, even a supporting one. If you only make indies no matter how good they’re you get forgotten.
I might get yelled at for this, but I think that she wants to show her annoyance with a subject brought up by jlaw
@Shi_gatsu: Huh…I think it was a very feeble (possibly while coked out) attempt to throw shade at Jennifer Lawrence but here is where Stewie fails (yet) again-Lawrence has received a hell of a lot of support regarding her pay gap essay.
Stewart on the other hand, is receiving snickers and blowback for her comments.
I also believe that Stewart is so jealous of Jennifer Lawrence that she can’t see straight…she wants what Jennifer Lawrence has in terms of career, respect/ critical acclaim, OSCARS, etc., but she never will.
Glad i’m not the only one thiking that. I also think she wnat to get to the headline.
Said like only an upper class, wealthy, attractive, uneducated white woman could.
Her comment about how men deserve to be payed more because their movies make more money is so ignorant.
Not to mention Jennifer Lawrence is the biggest movie star in the world right now, the Sony leaks revealed she was payed less then Jeremy renner.
I watched the video she comes across as a teenager. Very limited vocabulary and thought process.
Lawrence is hardly the biggest movie star in the world. Joy was the first big movie she had to carry on her name alone and it’s probably not even going to turn a profit. She’s o for 1.
I see Stewart is making a serious play to be Charlotte Rampling’s new sith apprentice. Count Delphy better watch out. There can only be two.
This was beautiful.
eBay the way, why does she look so horrible. Her hair looks like a rats nest lives there. And what’s up with that heavy black eyeliner. She looks gid awful.
oh the big contrast. One side you have Jlaw a super successful 25 years old actress who got scr*w*d over on a deal and decided to talk about it despite recognizing her privileged position. She wanted to talk about her experience and help the other women who aren’t that lucky. She put a great spotlight on the subject. Like she said, with talk comes changes. Then comes her peer, another 25 year old privileged white actress and basically tells women should shut up, work harder to get what they’re worth it, men make more because they deserve since their movies make more (not true), people should move on the topic, stop talking about it because its boring. lol and then she wonder why people don’t like her.
To everyone trying to move is forward, there’s always someone desperately trying to hold us back and not displease any male sensibilities.
such a millennial, ‘this conversation is boring, entertain me!’
SHE is boring. Why do people even interview this miserable child?
Better ways to rehab KStew’s career:
Stop the interviews. Seriously.
Send her back to school/college for two or three years. (We get a break, she gets a break.)
Make her learn French.
Give her therapy and rehab to fix her self-sabotaging sneering attitude.
Let her be comfortable enjoying the spotlight – she needs to stop pretending.
Teach her how to speak in interviews.
Lots of fashion stuff that doesn’t require words.
Then pick the right indie roles.
Or, you know, just let people be irritated/annoyed by her slow self-destruct crap because she can’t admit she’s a faker and hustler like everybody else.
“hey everyone: bring me scripts” – kristen stewart