Here are some assorted photos of Kim Kardashian from the past several days. In some of these, Kim is once again leaving the dermatologist’s office, so once again, I have to ask: what’s going on there? Why in the world are all of these dermy trips necessary?!
Anyway, Kim had a big week, what with posting a year-old photo for attention, then manufacturing a controversy around it, then using that manufactured controversy to paint herself as a victim whilst standing up for feminism, body positivity and anti-body-policing messages. It was a complicated week, and Kim ended the week by deflecting to her children. On Friday, she posted the second-ever Twitter/Instagram photo of Saint West, who honestly just looks like North West’s twinsie.
You're the sun in my morning babe pic.twitter.com/qqV6OvR5a1
— Kim Kardashian West (@KimKardashian) March 11, 2016
Very cute. When North was this age, I always thought that she looked just like her mom (or how her mom originally looked before all the work), but as North has gotten older, I see more of Kanye in her. I bet it will be the same with Saint.
Meanwhile, back the #Kimtroversy about body image, nude photos, etc. Amber Rose stood up for Kim and clapped back at Kim’s haters last week. And Amber has a new interview with Nightline (seriously!) about the whole incident. Amber told Nightline:
“I thought she looked beautiful. I’m a mom. I know how hard it is to like work out and try to get your body back but at the same time, embracing the fact that your body does change after you have a baby. After carrying a baby, I just think it’s really cool and I’ve seen that she’s been getting a lot of [flack] for it and I didn’t think it was fair.”
Rose, 29, who previously dated Kardashian West’s husband, Kanye West, considers the reality-TV star a friend, though she explained that her words were meant to defend all women. In Hollywood, she said, a double-standard exists in which overtly sexual women are chastised in a way that their male counterparts are not.
“If Brad Pitt posted a picture like that, everyone would praise him,” she said. “If any sexy guy posted a nude picture with a little black strip over his private areas, everybody would be like, ‘Damn, he’s hot, he’s sexy looking. Look at that body!'”
Rose believes that the problem is partially rooted in the idea that celebrities should be role models. In reality, she said, Kardashian-West should only be concerned with her own children: North, 2, and Saint, 3 months. Everybody else, she continued, should just try to be supportive of one another.
“Just try to be as positive as possible,” she said, “and you can make a change.”
I’m not going to beat a dead horse (because it’s clear that most of you disagree with me anyway), but I’m squarely on Team Kim and Team Amber on this one. While there are many valid criticisms of Kim – and absolutely, she is a vapid, plastic famewhore – I completely believe that many of the comments about Kim and her body last week were rooted in judgment and a disturbing amount of body-policing. I fundamentally believe that no one has the right to tell a woman what she should or should not do with her body, whether it’s choosing to post nudes on social media or choosing to have an abortion or choosing to wear modest clothes or whatever else you’ve got.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
I see she’s taken a page from the BRF book. When embroiled by scandal, out out pictures of your cute babies.
I called it. Said before that we were due for new pics of the kids to distract attention from it all. Guess nobody has offered big enough bucks for pics of the Saint or else it was too much of an emergency to wait any longer.
This. I honestly think they were waiting for a payday and then realized there was no demand or interest. Plus the photos tamp down their drama when it’s needed.
They didn’t get a pay day for North, though, either… wasn’t it shown on a talk show? They’ve never really been a cover story family, more like a TV and social media family.
They created momentum to show the pics in their show… for ratings.
I feel bad for North and Saint, they have the living embodiments of vapidity, delusion and greed for parents and extended family.
If they turn out decent, well-adjusted people after being raised by such people it’ll be nothing short of a miracle because the odds right now are so stacked against it.
Well said.
I agree, teacakes. I hope that since I’m sure these kids spend most of their time with nannies, the nannies teach them all that they need to know – humility, kindness, a love of learning etc. God help them.
@Lisa – there’s only so much nannies can do (since I assume people don’t have nannies after the age of about 12 or so), and that’s assuming KimYe aren’t the sort of parents who keep firing nannies their kid gets attached to.
The kids won’t lack for anything materially but I wouldn’t wish their lives or their parents on anyone.
One worry about nannies would be whether or not they have professionals in charge at least. A good professional nanny would know how to encourage the virtues and also skills leading to love of reading and learning later, I would hope. Or at least someone who is a competent parent themselves, maybe someone older on Kanye’s side of the family. Young people, even if family, may or may not know how to do it and why it’s important. With two non-readers as parents, those kids otherwise won’t have the benefit I had of a mother who read books herself and read to us and engaged us with puzzle solving etc. with such tools as Highlights for Children and trips to the library.
Reading really opens up the world to a kid. If Kanye’s mother were alive, I’m sure she would do what’s needed. But the Kardashian side seems rather anti-education and so is Kanye. That’s okay for fully formed adults, but lack of education really stunts the growth of most kids. If they send the kids to good private schools, that will help. But if they isolate the kids at home Kardashian-style, not so good. Even Kourtney seems to be keeping Mason out of school for the show, although she’s probably the only one smart enough to get good tutors for the kid…
That baby sooo cute
Their son is beyond adorable.
I for one have never body shammed Kim. I agree that it happens a lot. I felt that all Kim does is post pics of her body. And if someone says Stop with the nude pics it is not just about her body; but her lack of imagination.
agree. it’s not about the body; it’s about the vulgarity and crude display which i would think about ANYONE – man or woman, curvy or not, built or weak – and why they desperately need attention in that way. when i saw that pic of kim on yahoo’s “news” page i just thought, ugh really? why must you thrust your whole body at us. granted, she didn’t thrust it at the world, and it was yahoo that assaulted me with it, but even if she thinks she’s owning her body and sexuality and all that, it just made me think she’s a prisoner to society’s objectification of women. sure, she can be sexual but sadly now, all we think of her as is a sexual being. i thought it just as sad when that hussy handler showed her total body and she has a different body from kim, or that time john stamos appeared in some spread w/o his pants – it’s like, yeah we know you have genitals but unless we’re having sex w/ you, we don’t need to see them!
of course she has the right to do with her body what she wants but its pretty sad if that’s all and the only way that she can get attention.
So who cares if all she does is post pics of her body? Her entire brand is centered around her body image so I really don’t understand why you’d tell Kim to “Stop with the nude pics”.
What you’re saying sounds exactly like body policing to me.
slut-shaming or body-policing is telling others that they can’t do something w/their bodies. she can do whatever she wants w/her body but when she puts something out there for Public Consumption, she’s subjecting her body to critique and in this case, derision. i don’t care how many people women sleep with or how they dress generally, but honestly, if you present yourself as naked or near-naked in public, you’re inviting people to comment on your Ass-ets and all else. and she knows it.
and i’ve turned into a grumpy old lady i guess, but i think the kartrashians have added to society’s devolution by pimping their ridiculous porny blow-up doll poses — this is what young girls are emulating now? sad. when john stamos showed his butt, i thought it was comical at first because he was taking on a traditionally female role of being the object, but i also thought it equally as sad and ridiculous.
I won’t ever say she “can’t” post pics of her body or whatever else. But don’t expect me to like it or agree with it. I find it vugar simply because that is all she does; attempt to garner attention by showing her bits. Of course she’s “allowed to” but that doesn’t mean I have to applaud her for it. I think all her “empowerment” does is support the old tired idea that women are (and should be) most highly valued for their appearance.
I’m with WREN. We can avoid slut-shaming and let her do what she wants to do, but we don’t have to enjoy it.
I’m not judging her body, I’m judging her for posting nudes for all to see.
To me, it becomes body-policing when you bring her sexuality into it like “oh there goes that slut posting another nude photo” which is completely different than a sarcastic “oh yay another naked photo of Kim because, different and unique”. The former is shaming, the latter is just an exasperated response to repetitive behavior that I find to be superficial and attention-seeking.
This.
Yep. She is eye roll inducing and has not offered anything new for a very long time. No shaming just over this tactic really.
I love her look with the black jeans and t-shirt. It’s about time to see her in a relatively normal yet stylish outfit. It shows how pretty she is. When she’s nipped and pulled into tight outfits and hair, she looks unreal and unattractive.
i came here to say the same thing! she looks so slim and sexy in this outfit. and…that baby is so cute. SO CUTE.
Yet she can’t seem to realize it. DM has pictures of her and Kanye going to the movies and she is back in the tight leotard (at least that’s what it looks like) and her leather jacket with her picture on it.
Oh Nightline, really? REALLY?!
The funny thing is how Amber twisted it to make it a case of sexism – she wants us to think how hard it is to get your body back after baby?
Ha.
1. That was a picture from a year or two ago. So, no, Amber, nothing to do with post baby, just the usual famew*oring.
2. As far as I could tell, at least on this site, no one body shamed her. We shamed the posting of an old picture, we shamed the terrible Photoshopping, but not her body.
3. She was a victim of sexism, poor thing, because she was forced, forced I tell you to post a naked photo of herself for the thousandth time. Nobody asked for it. Nobody talked about her other than to make fun of her awful look recently, even after posting a photo of her baby (guess no press wanted to pay for it). So she very successfully started a big fuss with the common KK tactic of using any sort of social media photo or commentary to stay relevant. Mission accomplished, and look, Amber is riding her coat tails after their recent meeting, and kontract.
My hat is off to PMK for her superior skills….
Amber Rose is now younger than me, funny 🙂
Kim looks good.
Every time she wears a t-shirt and jeans (which is like, never) she looks so good. It just proves how easy it is for her to look nice, which reminds me of the effort that she (Kanye) must put into looking so bad all the time.
Jeanpierre: I blinked at AR’s age, too. According to Wikipedia (I know, I know…) she was born on October 21, 1983, so that makes her 32 and (almost) 5 months…
I clearly remember her being older than me during kanye era. Oh well 🙂
I never care what she looks like. And when she’s nude (AGAIN), I just roll my eyes. Each time she takes her clothes off all people think about is that tape. To me she lacks anything compelling. I AM however interested in the slut-shaming subject, but believe she doesn’t have a leg to stand on in the fight, because I have seen dozens clips on the internet over the years of she and her sisters calling each other sluts and whores and her “husband” believes that disparaging titles for women like bitches and ho’ s are terms of endearment.
Is that guy with Kim, her assistant( Twitter attack dog) Jonathan?
Yup. That’s her pet troll/attack dog.
Maybe I’m just very cynical…but when “celebrities” speak up about things like this, I always think that most of them are not doing it because they care, but because they see an opportunity to get some attention.
And if Brad Pitt posted a picture like that, I really don’t think people would praise him. I imagine people would mock him and say things like – midlife crisis, narcissist, and even “has he lost his mind?”.
I’m with you, D.
See, now I’d be totally on-board with a Pitt nudie because that’s something we don’t see on the menu every day. It’s all about variety man.
at this point, either of the Jolie-Pitts joining social media for personal stuff (and not say, Angelina doing a charity campaign or something) would just bring down their brand, if anything.
They don’t need to bring themselves down to Kartrashian levels for attention, they’re not even on the playing field with those lessers.
Brad doesn’t have to post his nudie pic on social media though.
He can just send it to my phone.
Or something.
I agree that the Brad Pitt example wasn’t a great one, but it’s true that women’s bodies and behavior are much more highly criticized than men’s, generally speaking. I think that’s what the author was trying to convey, and she’s right. Not to mention you’re not as likely to see men post nudes on Insta like this for attention because men aren’t taught from birth that their value lies in their sexuality, but I digress…
These types of examples are tempting to use, but almost never effective. Inevitably, people will say “YES I WOULD CRITICIZE HIM TOO LOL.” Even if 1) they wouldn’t, and 2) that alone doesn’t mean that the double standards aren’t very real.
So..I’m still confused. Is the criticism that people shouldn’t make a moral judgement about somebody’s character based on what they post on social media?
That seems like a lot to ask.
Because I think it’s a natural human response to see people who repetitively post nude pics of themselves as superficial and yes I absolutely apply that standard to men as well. When I was online dating I wouldn’t even reply to a guy if his profile pic was of a ripped torso. I just assumed that he was a superficial cheeseball looking to get laid or go out to da club or whatever.
I don’t see that as body-shaming because truthfully some of those dudes have nice abs but it does make me suspect that bodies are their main focus, which makes them less appealing/interesting to me.
Kitten: I was responding to D’s comment above about how Brad Pitt wouldn’t be praised if he posted a nude selfie, and trying to say that the example isn’t a good one to use to point out the double standard of how a lot of people in our society judge men and women differently.
I don’t think you (or anyone) judging Kim for her superficiality is body-shaming or slut-shaming. She is superficial. Posting nudes on social media doesn’t somehow make her exempt from criticism. The problem is, she’s this big controversial personality and people DO often veer into slut-shaming/body-shaming territory when criticizing her and her family, but it’s all “okay” because hey, sex tape and nude selfies (i.e., she’s bringing it on herself/making money so she’s not allowed to be upset if people think she’s a whore!). That’s where it becomes problematic, for me at least.
I see what you are saying. Sometimes it depends on the gossip site when it comes to slut shaming and body shaming. There is a lot of body shaming over on DM, Radar Online and even TMZ in the comments. I stay away from the comments because they are so awful. The commenters on CB are usually above all that and have thoughtful insights.
You’re so right, swak. The comments on DM are absolutely vile in regard to, not only KK’s body, but most girls and women who show even just a bit of skin. The horrible things many on there post about the way females look is disgusting, so I avoid them, too. I like coming on here; the comments are so well thought out, reasoned and insightful. I love it when the posts on here go off on tangents, and have gleaned some really interesting information when that’s happened. People are also quite supportive of each other on here.
The problem with Amber Rose’s defense of Kim was that she was defending against something that never happened. People weren’t saying Kim was ugly nude or that nude photos were immoral. They were saying things like:
– it was just boring, she’s done it so much
– she photoshops everything to death anyway so what does she really look like
– how is it showing empowerment and body-confidence to photoshop your surgically altered body
– why post a two-year old photo right now
– is she just trying to deflect from Kanye’s meltdowns like she does with pics of her kids
– girls really need to know that anybody can take their clothes off and get male attention but they can be more than that, they don’t need to be so relentlessly one-dimensional as Kim who focuses so exclusively on her body and how it looks to other people
– Kim (or whoever was writing her tweets) was very rude and crude in her response to mild jokes and thoughtful comments about the bigger picture when people didn’t just collapse in ecstasy over the sight of her photoshopped nude body.
So none of what Amber Rose said was relevant to what really happened or was really said.
I agree….also, saying that women are more than our bodies isn’t an automatic condemnation of women who use their sexuality to advance their careers. I think there’s room for say, adult film stars and business women alike under modern feminism.
Agreed, but is was so sad how many teenagers on twitter lapped up this controversy. On the plus side it reminded me how much I like Pink, someone who has talent, a brain and the ability to develop as a person.
But it got her an interview on Nightline and that’s what really matters, isn’t it?
Hard-hitting news, dude. Only the important stuff.
But was it pre-agreed?
That’s what I have been saying all along. Nobody was body shaming her and nobody was policing her. People were just commenting on her obsession with herself.
Well said!
yep. Straw man argument, right there – Bette Midler had it right.
Jwoolman: Thank. You. Finally, a clear and proper explanation of the real criticisms people had regarding her old, photoshopped nudiepix. You, too, GNAT. As lilacflowers says, though, Amber’s comments have to focused the spotlight on her.
So, question for the hard-core gossip followers: Has Amber been paid to be Kim’s friend? I can’t decide if Amber is a Saint (!) or a sycophant…
I suspect that Amber was paid off to stop talking about Kanye’s proclivities. I also think the more she mentions Kim in glowing terms, the more she gets paid. PMK made a business decision hence the selfie of the two of them recently. So disappointing Amber that joined the dark side because #fingersinthebootyassbitch was hilarious and one of the best hashtags ever. And she finally silenced Kanrage.
Yes amber is getting paid. yes amber is my age and my bday is march 21 so im so happy im turning 29 also!!!!! i never minded 30 but new era, yeah…. no one is slut shaming kim. i am these chicks age. i changed what i share with the masses. make it tasteful.
One of the problems with Amber running to the rescue is that she makes a career on dissing on Kanye. She and Kim were literally just twitter warring a couple weeks ago. So out comes the wallet and there’s the Kim and Amber picture. This time Kim used her child to try to clean herself up. No morals, no scruples. There is very little difference between Kim and Amber….Kim is Amber from a wealthy family.
She looks really nice in these pictures. Maybe she should wear normal clothes more often rather than body stockings with chockers
Yes, what a difference!
Am really over this but just came here to say damn she looks GOOD dressed like that. When she wears that weird spanx all in one leggings “thing” she looks horrendous, why doesn’t she dress like this more?! (that and stop posting pics of herself online to create controversy and keep herself relevant)
Does the dermatologist have one of those cool sculpting machines everyone’s using these days to reduce the appearance of fat? That might be the answer since her nose is already pinched to hell and back.
The amount of drama that came from it wasn’t worth this topic, especially since Kim and her family are casually sexist and don’t bat an eyelash when Kanye slut shames someone else. So really all I’m waiting for is the next time Kanye goes off on a rant mocking some other women’s body or sexuality and Kim is totally silent. Then I want people to tweet her nonstop asking how she feels about slut shaming then.
As for the photo it was stupid. She looked like a blow up Barbie doll and she needs a new trick from her bag. If all you have is nude photos and baby photos then yeah, the predictability of it all will get you mocked.
This. She’s going to the dermatologists office to get non invasive procedures done on her post-baby body. Stretch marks treatments, cellulite treatments, fat reducing treatments.
Amber is only 29?!? For real???
In dog years…….
Haha..oh, Nancy 😏
😎
Amber will be 33 in October
Nice touch to use your children as props. Don’t know why all of a sudden she’s so worried about her image. If she wants to really create a headline, wear an outfit that doesn’t expose a body part…..or talk about your three month marriage, I believe it was the second marriage, she probably forgot about him. He served his purpose.
“wear an outfit that doesn’t expose a body part…..or talk about your three month marriage”
Nice body policing and slut shaming in one comment.
I’m over being accused of these shaming accusations. Don’t shame me for telling my truth. Her brief marriage was no secret and she has a propensity for wearing the same type of clothing or posing nude with no problem. Geez
“wear an outfit that doesn’t expose a body part” sounds exactly like a statement meant to slut shame Kim. Maybe word your statements more tact if you don’t want to be accused of “shaming accusations”.
and if “your truth” involves using problematic language to shame another woman over how much skin she chooses to show, don’t criticize others and get super defensive if someone calls you out for it.
Have a great day Jess. I’m sure we’d be best of friends. If it walks like a duck and….well you know the rest, I think???
@jess are you serious!? It is not “slut shaming” to think that second marriage was ridiculous!
She also posted a snapchat with North where North is clearly trying to tell her mom she doesn’t like snapchat but Kim doesn’t seem to care. It’s also crazy how plumped Kim’s lips are, she could barely talk to North. It is odd that she is going to the derm’s office so much, but what is odder is the fact that she is calling the paps to meet her there EACH time. What’s up with that? She was also pap’d outside of a gym. I mean, her mom has a home gym and I’m presuming that’s what she was using up until now. So why the need to go to the public gym now other than for pap strolls right? This woman is way too predictable. I’m tired of seeing her naked. Can she do anything else? She’s does nothing but degrade herself and calls it “empowerment”. Oh please.
Predictable and transparent.
Kendall (and PFW) and Kylie (and her Puma contract) are getting way too much attention and Kim is so insecure and needy that she had to do something to get some validation. Pap walks with her sister and pitbull are all she has going for her. Pathetic for a 35 year old mother of two, no? So embarrassing….
Mom wants her face to look like her baby’s. No wrinkles at all!
Whatever. Kim is all about female empowerment and feminism when she didn’t get the response she wanted. Instead off calling her beautiful and sexy, people called her out about being thirsty for attention. She’s not proud or empowered because she’s on to 5th or 6th face (Nothing against plastic surgery. But don’t say you are proud of your body/looks when you’re still nipping and tucking to the point that you’re unrecognizable). If you’re using your body as a commodity, people are going to comment positively and negatively.
I also want to point out where were Kim’s messages of feminism and empowerment when her husband was slutshaming Amber? Where was she when he was writing about having sex with Taylor? It’s just about her, as usual.
Amber, I hope those paychecks are worth it.
What I’m questioning is why in the hell is that slimebag, hanger-on Jonathan Cheban doing constantly attached at her hip…does he not have a life of his own. He’s putrid.
That outfit looks good on her. It’s more flattering than the skin tight clothes she usually wears
Why does she keep going to her skin doctors? Or is it free advertising.
At the risk of sounding trifling, if Amber Rose is 29, then I’m sweet 16, never-been-kissed.
Ok Kim. Now I’m back to never click on your posts again.
Kim is looking good!
Saint is a beautiful baby. That is all.
The baby is cute.
Kim’s only purpose has been to be a provocateur and to be notorious. Nudity does both but she isn’t prepared for the public to be bored of it or over her. PR can only take you so far without a real foundation to build upon. When the world finally becomes bored then what? How can she make a comeback if she was never doing anything to come back to.
I don’t care if she wants to be nude or surgeried to death but her hypocrisy is absurd.
If Brad Pitt (or any man for that matter), posted a nude selfie, I would think he is an attention seeking fool. The end.
The K-Kamp are suddenly interested in what people think of them 1. because of the backlash that can’t be spun, e.g., Rantye’s poor choices and Kim’s attack on the Divine Ms. M. and Chloe Moretz who both have great careers; 2. the relentless and humiliating boooing of PMK (recalling the prior booing of Khloe and Kendall at a Clippers game).
These are instances that they cannot spin. Usually they just pretend that what they are doing is reaping positive results when in fact the 3 girls, Kim, Khloe and Vylie’s careers are based on people hating them. If they weren’t hated, no one would notice them. They play the “positivity card” and everything they do is smoke and mirrors, e.g, Vylie’s cosmetics are not hers at all. They come from some beauty supply warehouse and she slaps her label on them just like any local beauty salon does, and they play the numbers–40 MIL followers? yet nothing they do or post yields anything close to that type of “fan” base. Their fan’s are a pathetically small group of hangers on that they avoid showing for real.
The boooing of PMK cannot be hidden with smoke and mirrors because they have no control.
She has psoriasis. Maybe that’s why she’s at the dermatologist. I have it too, and after I had my son, my psoriasis flared up so bad my skin cracked open in places and bled. It was concentrated at my ankles, tops of my feet, elbows, and small of my back. Weekly UV treatments and cortisone helped a little, but this was 15 years ago, so they must have better treatments now.