Some people have theorized that Kim Kardashian is basically paying Amber Rose to play nice and be friendly in public. Which I think is sort of insulting to both of them. But I was wondering why Amber was suddenly so vocally supportive of Kim’s life choices recently. I’m starting to figure it out – Amber is using Kim in much the same way Kim has used Amber. If their “beef” made headlines, so can their friendship, and every time Amber mentions Kim’s name, Amber’s quotes will definitely get widespread coverage. So, Amber was in Austin for SXSW to promote her new 3D character on the Zoobe app. While in Texas, Amber chatted with The Daily Beast about Slut Walk 2016, her new friendship with Kim, how she’s supports Hillary Clinton and much, much more. Some highlights:
Being called a ho and a slut: “We do that to each other and it’s really unfortunate. People get turned off by the name ‘SlutWalk’ because they don’t really know what it is, but it’s about ownership regardless of what we’ve done in our life. I’m a grown woman—I’m 32 years old—so I’ve obviously had sex outside of a relationship, or before I was married. I’ve dated guys in my life and realized it didn’t work out. It’s just life. You look for love and find out what you want in life. Guys do it all the time, but we get criticized for it because we’re women, and it’s bullsh-t.”
Amber on Kanye West: “He went to my hometown and said, ‘I want to thank the City of Philadelphia for the beautiful person I wrote this song [“Runaway”] for. And then it’s just like, I don’t understand it! But you know what, it’s not for me to understand. I’ve been married, had a baby, and it’s been f–kin’ five years. Get over it.”
Her “friendship” with Kim Kardashian: “The thing is, me and Kim will probably—I won’t say we’ll never be friends, but we accept each other for who we are, and that’s the most important thing as women. I don’t get along with her husband—I don’t think we’ll ever be the best of friends—but it’s good that we understand who we both are, got all that sh-t out on the table, and can just move on with our lives knowing that the Internet is mostly what gave us the beef we had. We didn’t naturally have any beef with each other, the Internet just naturally instigated everything. So we got it all out and it’s all good now.”
What she has in common with Kim: “It’s bullsh-t, and this is the thing: They come at me and Kim so hard because I was a stripper and she had a sex tape. So if we could sing, it would be OK if we were on stage half-naked. We all love Beyoncé, but she’s on stage half-naked and twerking all the time, yet people say, oh, she has talent so she’s able to do that. We don’t have the talent that Beyoncé has, so we get criticized as former sex workers, but at the end of the day we’re just women—we’re all women—and we should all embrace each other. No one is greater. We’re all the same. So, to criticize us as incapable of being smart businesswomen because Kim has a reality show and I’m a socialite and we don’t sing is stupid. We’ve both been in movies, and we take our acting, business ventures, and everything else very seriously. No one gives a f–k that Channing Tatum was a stripper. He’s an established actor who’s at the Vanity Fair parties and the Oscars, but for me, no matter how far I go in my life, I see these stories that keep referring to me as a ‘former stripper.’ No one says ‘former stripper’ about Channing Tatum, or ‘former McDonald’s worker’ about Brad Pitt. No one does that to men.”
She loves Hillary Clinton: “I can’t f–kin’ wait! I’m so excited. I’m voting for Hillary, I don’t give a f–k. I love her, and always have. I feel like this is her time to just sh-t on everybody and be the powerful woman that she is. And I’m leaving the United States if [Trump] is elected. F–k it! I’m moving to Canada. It’s over.”
I laughed out loud at “We don’t have the talent that Beyoncé has, so we get criticized as former sex workers…” She’s right, although I bet Kim’s eye is twitching at being called a “former sex worker.” God, when did I become an Amber Rose apologist? She’s right about a lot of things, but I just have to say… Beyonce DOES get criticized. If she decides to sing about her sex life with her husband, people clutch their pearls and tut-tut. If Beyonce shakes her Black Panther-loving ass at the Super Bowl, Fox News is in full meltdown mode. It’s more than the double standards between men and women or the double standards between women with “talent” and women who use their bodies in more direct ways to make money. It’s about body-policing in general, and more specifically the body-policing of all women.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
I read this thinking I would have a comment, but nope. I’m kind of over all of this Kim-Kanye-Amber-Wiz drama and rehash. I think they ALL need to take a break from the spotlight. (If Kim and Kanye decide not to return ever, then I’d be doubly happy). But yeah, she’s not really saying anything new.
Is “body policing” the new “slut shaming”?
Basically you’re no longer allowed to have an opinion about anyone anymore.
It’s so stupid. People have opinions and they will be not what you want to see or hear sometimes. Get over it. We will all have judgments because we are human beings. People hurt my feelings everyday, but I don’t call it bullying or policing, some people have no tact. Welcome to Earth!
word: I agree with every single word you said. I’m hesitant to tell you why or I’m quite sure I would get accused of something. This used to be fun….not so much anymore.
@ Nancy: No one can accuse you of anything because they’d be ‘shaming’ you!
@me: LOL…..first time shame on you, second time shame on me…..I just have to stop posting on the Ambers and Kims of the world as they do have their posses out there (I did say posse with an o!) waiting to jump on what they deem an inappropriate post, while those two do as they please. Oh well, in the scheme of things, not that big of a deal. 🙂
Isn’t it atrocious that these people they will never meet, they are their minions!
Yes, because only people who are ‘a part of Kim Kardashian’s posse/her minions’ would dare criticize misogynistic comments and attitudes that are directed not just at Kim K, but women in general once they make a decision with sexuality and their bodies that somebody else disapproves of. And criticism of any type of criticism= saying all criticism is bad. #Logic.
@word….unless it’s a “positive” opinion about someone. Then it’s fine!
I was never a fan of Amber Rose, I found her fairly extra and thirsty and didn’t find her attractive in the slightest. But I have to say I’m quite impressed with her ability to clap back and also stick up for herself and her family, and women, in a way that is firm but relatable. It’s making me appreciate her more than I previously did, although she’s still not my favorite, I can’t hate on her.
But can’t someone be good at clapping back/ sticking up for themselves AND be thirsty too.
Kim’s nude photo had nothing to do with her yet she’s found away to do several interviews about it.
Of course! But that thirst repelled me before. Her clothing choices do too; how much camel toe can we see on her??
OMG, I am so sick of looking at camel toes. They’ve become as common as flipping nail polish. Just yesterday I was wondering if camel toes were becoming the latest fashion fad.
Actually some of us (usually those of us with larger booties) have natural camel toes thatwe can’t do anything about. But thanks, it’s comments like yours that literally keep me from ever wearing pants in public.
She is totally right, no one remembers Channing Tatum as a stripper, he made a movie about it, he got famous. If it’s a woman, she is a ho and a slut. I’m #TeamAmber while she keeps fighting against double standards.
Yes they do refer to him as a former stripper all the time. If Amber wants people to stop talking kanye she needs to stop talking about him herself.
And if Channing walked around wrapped in Spandex tighter than a sausage casing, started a march called “MenHoWalk” and made that into a brand rather than acting, I bet we’d talk about it even more.
And for the record, Amber, please stop trying to act like you speak for all women. There is a difference, IMO, between being a stripper, having sex outside marriage, having random sex outside relationships, releasing a porn video – those things are NOT all the same. I am by no means a prude – hey, get your freak on in the bedroom all you want. Have casual sex if you want. Film yourself doing it all you want. I don’t particularly like the idea of strippers or porn or prostitution, but I also understand that the three are closely related and that there has always been a demand for sex for money. So, if it empowers you to sell your body (or its image), go ahead. But do I have to stand and cheer? I don’t think so. Apparently that makes me “not a feminist”, and I happen to disagree. I believe that encouraging young women to do well in school, and get into traditionally male dominated fields, is feminist. I believe that fighting for equal right, equal salaries, control of your reproductive choices, more career choices during child bearing years, more affordable childcare, longer parental leaves… those are feminist goals to me.
The other thing I object to is posting every single detail on social media. And then having the nerve to complain if people don’t fawn all over your sexay pics. I would eye roll real hard but I need to look at paint samples in a minute. Let’s get real: the ONLY reason to post something on social media is to get a reaction – whether it’s a photo of a kitten, your kid, your romantic holiday or your dinner dish. It’s a brag. And you expect people to have a positive reaction (unless you are looking to start a controversy, in which case you post a badly ‘shopped, two year old nekkid picture and try to make yourself into a feminist martyr.)
So Amber, before you try to school us again on feminism and standing up for one another, how about we discuss that classic work you recently published in which you were telling us how we should get presents out of men? I’m sure that’s empowering too. After all, unless a man is a rick rapper or athlete who can shower you with presents, he is no good, right? In that way, more than anything, you and Kim are so alike.
@vauvert–I agree completely! You said it all!
Vauvert for the screamin win – lol
“There is a difference, IMO, between being a stripper, having sex outside marriage, having random sex outside relationships, releasing a porn video – those things are NOT all the same.”
They are all the same in the sense that they all have one important thing in common: They’re all decisions that people use to justify calling women derogatory sexist slurs, blame women for oppression and violence, say women are deserving of or should expect disrespect and mistreatment, label women as ‘degraded’ or ‘objects’ instead of people, or say that a woman lacks self-respect, lacks morals, or is a bad role model. You can add wearing revealing clothes, posing nude, and getting abortions to that list as well. While not ‘cheering’ for other women’s decisions to do things you don’t approve of with their bodies doesn’t make you ‘not a feminist’ (and by the way, nobody ever implied that), the popular “Okay, women who made consensual choice A, B, and C with their bodies have a place in the feminist movement and should not be treated as less than, How dare you religious zealots, MRAs, and republicans, but women who made consensual choice X, Y, and Z are to be excluded from the movement and are fair game for the misogynistic, puritanical crap we usually rail against,” mentality is not feminist. Equality would be deciding that none of those women deserve that.
I like Amber.
Amber is THE iconic beauty today. I wish her every success with her brand and her beautiful baby. She seems real and vulnerable – I loved the way she responded to body criticism after her baby, and how she was open about missing her “skinny stoner husband.” She seems open to growing from her experiences, and she just is so sweet! I hope someday she can shine without the Koven being involved.
People remember Channing was a stripper, the difference is people see it as a cute quirky thing from his past and he’s celebrated for it. He gets to make two movies about it and women flock to him. But we demonize other women for daring to do something so “slutty.” We are our own worst enemy when it comes to gender equality.
Oh he was an actual stripper?! I loved him in him street but haven’t seen Magic Mike (so I guess I’m not a fan of his) and had no idea e had actually been a stripper
I know I am over all of them in general.
I’m sorry, I don’t judge her for who she was, but who she is now. A vulgar, tasteless, loud mouth who is right about one issue but very ill informed about everything else. Vote for Hillary so she can just sh$t on everybody and be the powerful woman that she is? Because nothing says powerful woman like treating everyone else like dirt. She doesn’t understand that people will move on from your past if you do, too. She and Kim haven’t grown as people or in “talent” – they’ve just grown in notoriety. That’s not much to be proud of or to admire.
Yeah, I’m baffled as to why anybody would vote for Hillary. She’s a crook. As a woman, I hope she isn’t the first female president (which is hard for me to say), because she’s going to reflect poorly on our gender and could possibly make it difficult to have another female president. I find her highly distrustful and I think she’s all about that money.
That being said, I would obviously take her over the Donald. It’s just sad that with 330 million people in the U.S., this is the best we can do with presidential candidates. Something needs to change (like the two party system, or the ridiculous amounts spent on campaigning).
What needs to change is the rules for running for president in the first place. As it stands, you only need to be 35 and natural-born. Wow, who can’t do that – I expect more qualifications from a president, like a law degree or political science degree, and to have already held public office as a governor or senator. Not to mention, let’s throw in a psychological exam as well. These are the things that need to change, and Donald Trump has no business running for president. So place the blame at the foot of whoever came up with the 35-natural born nonsense and refuses to change it.
GNAT: You said it all.
It doesn’t take a genius to realize there was some sort of payola between the K’s and her after Buttgate. She’s delusional if she thinks anyone believes she doesn’t use her former relationship with Kanye to make her more relevant. This is just one big x rated soap opera that hopefully will end along with KUWTK. @Mia V: I don’t care if she was a stripper or the Queen of England, she needs to keep her past in the vault.
So right.
That last pic w/ the banana inscription though!
I like Amber. I really do. Right now though… I feel exhausted of her.
She does make a good point about Channing Tatum. I agree that his past is almost never brought up. She’s wrong about Beyonce though. Amber has obviously has never been to this site. Beyonce gets criticized by our commenters for simply breathing and existing.
Agree that Amber can be exhausting but she’s often spot on. Female public figures are often defined in the press by a mistake or what most of society views in a negative light, while men rarely get defined that way or dogged with terms like “former stripper.” I saw a few articles around Oscar time that referred to Kate Winslet as a “mother of three with three different men.” While there’s nothing wrong with that, it was clear what they were implying something was wrong by the tone of the article and by adding in the “three different men” when it wasn’t even necessary. No way in hell would they ever talk about a man that way even though many actors have multiple marriages and kids by different women.
Oh Dear God i LOVE Amber! I really do “former sex worker.” That was shade right?? I Know It had to have been!!
Oh, yes, that was shady shade. She AND Kim are former sex workers.
Don’t forget- ‘…and I’m a socialite.’ What?!! HA!!
The socialite bit killed me. Bytch, please. And I clicked on JUST to say how tired I am of Amber.
Tatum’s past does get brought up all the time, but it’s never ever done to dismiss or shame him. I think that’s the biggest problem. It’s totally okay for a man to have been a stripper (so hot!) when he was young and poor but if a woman does it then the negative connotations follow her for life (what a whore!).
I respect that Amber owns her past and doesn’t apologize for it. I don’t agree with her on everything but, eh, I think she’s right more than she’s wrong.
Shut up………..Go away
Former sex workers – ha ha ha. I’m sure Kim is on a private meltdown over that comment! Although I have to say, I was eating a banana on the subway last week – thought of her T shirt – and didn’t hide. But then again, I didn’t notice anyone watching lolll. I just ate the damn thing, no show involved.
I agree with most of what she said, and that not being the first time I wonder if I sort of like Amber now. Anyway, double standards.
” We didn’t naturally have any beef with each other, the Internet just naturally instigated everything.” Sorry, while the internet may have egged it on, there must have been some type of beef to begin with. Kanye was the one ranting about Amber, so maybe she should put some of the blame on him for slut shaming her and blame on Kim for being quiet about it. Also, wasn’t it Kim that said Kanye needed 30 showers to get with her (Kim) after being with Amber (yes, Kanye repeated it but think it was Kim who said it originally.) She’s hypocritical.
Exactly! The Internet didn’t just pop up with it’s own rants and then let these two have at it. An actual PERSON had to first post on Internet for something to start.
I do think Kanye is still obsessed with Amber. He dresses Kim as if she was Amber and the fact that Kim has no personality whatsoever helps his game greatly.
He is creepy beyond limit and uses women as dolls to dress and undress.
He is far into that closet that he is in Narnia.
“He is far into that closet that he is in Narnia.” – LOVE IT!
I’ve been noticing that more and more. Maybe that’s why Kim always looks so miserable in her clothes, she knows she’s being dressed up as her husband’s former gf that he can’t seem to get over. Her lack of personality is more of a hindrance really. While Amber looks perfectly comfortable and happy in her camel toe outfits, Kim looks about as enthused as a kid stuffed into an Easter dress sitting between her parents in church.
You all are slaying me today: “Kim looks about as enthused as a kid stuffed into an Easter dress sitting between her parents in church.” LOL!
She seems like she’d be a great friend — the slightly crass but straight talking chick who tells you when a man (or woman) is no good, no matter the level of dong (or vadge) haze you’re in. We all need a friend like that.
She tells young women to use sex to get money from men. Great advice?
Some girls have no problem with this, which is sad.
Problem is, if you say it’s sad to get money from sex, you’re “body-policing”.
“We don’t have the talent that Beyoncé has, so we get criticized as former sex workers…”
Someone call Sunsetter; Amber is a professional when it comes to shading people.
LOL!!!!!!
Comparing herself to Channing Tatum and Brad Pitt is f*cking stupid. No one refers to Channing as “former stipper” or Pitt as “former McDonald’s employee” because their acting careers have GREATLY overshadowed those old jobs. Wtf has Amber really done besides strip, date rappers, and mooch off their money (self-admittedly)??
This!!!!!!^^^^^^^^^
And if Channing Tatum was a woman he would NOT be celebrated or admired for his past, but shamed for it. If Cate Blanchett had been a stripper in her youth, you can bet that publications would throw negative shade on her every chance they got. Let’s not pretend like rampant sexism doesn’t exist and that all it takes to make it go away is to become a huge success.
She also said “No-one calls Channing Tatum a ‘former stripper’, so why me?” This is not true. Tatum is candid about being a teenager stripper, and there are definitely people feel his stripper past frowned-upon. Tatum gets ridiculed as well, it is not just Amber Rose.
The big difference between Tatum and Rose’s post-stripper years is: Tatum has become a sussessful actor. He is an uplifting American Dream becoming true story. Many people appreciate that.
Also Tatum has carried himself well in the media and in real life. He took his shirt a lot on big and small screens, but has he ever posted a shirtless selfie on social media? No, I don’t think there has been any nude private photo of him floating on the web after he left the stripper world. That’s why people don’t shame him as a formal stripper.
She has a point with the Channing Tatum reference – he even turned that into a franchise with Magic Mike!
Women should stop being humiliated and shamed just because they chose different things.
Tatum financed the Magic Mike movies himself. It’s not like Hollywood studios chased after him to make Magic Mike in the first place. He was lucky that Oscar-winning director Steven Soderbergh was his champion, and went down to the rabbit hole with him.
If Rise is so business savvy as she claims to be, she can do something like that herself as well, and she can use her man’s money.
I don’t see the point of where the financing came from, he was still able to translate his past work into two films, and to great success.
I think Tatum is hilarious in comedies, while not so great in other genres. But the fact remains no one shames him for his past employment, unlike women like her.
She doesn’t have a point. Channing Tatum was a stripper who became an actor. Not a good actor but an actor nonetheless. Amber was stripper who became a_____? Fill in the blank. A professional companion? I don’t know what she does.
Apparently she’s “a socialite.”
He didn’t become famous for being a stripper. He was 19 and needed money. He stripped for a few months. Kim and Amber’s careers revolve around their naked bodies. Channing moved up, Kim and Amber remained selling their bodies for money. If your career is to be a “socialite”, you need to re-evaluate yourself. People like stories of how men and women overcame and moved up in life. Kim and Amber got richer but are still doing the “same old same old”.
Yes, and she’s still being shamed for it, unlike Tatum who people think it’s cute and sexy he had to get naked and grind people in order to make a living.
Word, I love you! You get it!
They are more like hostesses (her, Blac Chyna, the Kardashians), they get paid to attend events.
Probably at some point she’d be an entrepreneur/IG model (selling some things through IG, etc.)
He still uses his body and sexuality as a part of his career though. (See Magic Mike for example).
So is photoshop the new empowerment tool because no one uses it more than Kim and Amber. “Oh we’re so proud of our bodies, we aren’t ashamed to show them”. Then why so much filtering and photoshopping of YOUR bodies???
Exactly. Be a grown ass woman, flaws and all.
Can Amber and Kim be proud of their bodies and use their empowerment offline?
Ha ha yeah right. How would they get attention that way?
I think the main point is that women get criticized much more for their clothing choices, talent and sexual history than men do. Beyonce most definitely gets criticized for everything she does. Does Usher? Who wears very little on stage as he shakes his fine ass? Nope. I’ve also noticed that female musicians get accused of not writing their own music MUCH more than male artists do….and it’s usually women doing the accusing. We all have a lot of work to do in regards to misogyny.
I think it was mature of Amber to set her differences aside with Kim, but let’s be real, Amber also uses her relationship with Kanye to get headlines… But overall, I do like Amber. I think she could have a really good platform if she was more prepared and organized her comments/thoughts better when making statements or doing interviews. Her overall message is a good one.
Good luck to Kim trying to twitch her eye.
She can hardly smile, much less have any sort of expression.
Did you see the snapchat with her and North? Kim could barely open her mouth to speak to her daughter because she had her lips injected with God knows what. Kim, you are not Kylie. Just stop it.
I love how Amber sets herself in the same level as the Kardashians. She really is right. KK is no better than Blac Chyna or Amber.
I bet she (and her husband) despise this.
The Kardashians see themselves as if their sh*t does not stink.
If you look online there are already blogs reporting how Amber “dissed” Kim by calling her an “ex-sex worker” lol and they are also saying that Amber “threw shade” at Beyonce. The media loves to twist words just to cause drama. Amber should have known her words would be used against her though, she knows how the media works.
I believe Amber is thinking long term game..speaking out now about kim and their respect for each other and that they squashed said beef.
If kanye ever comments negatively again towards Amber and Kim doesn’t speak out..ALL the dramas lands on Kim’s shoulders.
What does Amber do? I’m not being sarcastic, just honest question. I’m a bit lazy to google.
Amen Kaiser exactly. Like these people are all so silly if we’re gonna get out the meter. But nobody is making the same comments about the men – their bodies aren’t part of it b/c they don’t have to make it be a part.
Is Kanye finally over her? He has finally stopped talking about her. Kim must have put her foot down.
She has some points. But sometimes people’s points of reference don’t a make total sense. Channing Tatum is an actor who used to be a stripper and does get some flack but not much this is true. Being male plays a large part but so does the fact he doesn’t market himself that way. That’s where the talent part comes in too. Beyonce is constantly criticized but again she has talent so she is giving something else to her audience. I’m with her for acknowledging this but it’s also kind of the point.
Her shade with lumping Kim in with having no talent is rather funny.
I do think it’s harder for women to shake off any past behavior deemed socially unacceptable and it’s not fair at all but there’s some progress.
Amber makes a better case study and states her stance better than Kim. She’s very thirsty and I sort of need a break but she’ll always be the woman who shut Kanye up and I love that about her.
This paragraph is SO important!! Because it’s so so true. Channing made millions off his story about being a stripper – it’s called Magic Mike.
“No one gives a f–k that Channing Tatum was a stripper. He’s an established actor who’s at the Vanity Fair parties and the Oscars, but for me, no matter how far I go in my life, I see these stories that keep referring to me as a ‘former stripper.’ No one says ‘former stripper’ about Channing Tatum, or ‘former McDonald’s worker’ about Brad Pitt. No one does that to men.”