Prince William admits he was a lazy, work-shy student at university too

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Prince William knows that his little brother is getting fantastic press during the Invictus Games. William knows the conversation these days is “Prince Harry should be king.” So William made sure that people don’t forget about him during Harry’s Invictus week. Last Friday, William’s office confirmed several public appearances, one of which was today’s stop by Oxford University. William was opening a new library on campus, at Magdalen College. You might think that William had something to do with getting this library off the ground. You would be mistaken. He had no connection to the library or fundraising for the library before today.

While the event didn’t go badly, it probably didn’t produce the headlines that William and his office were expecting. Some sample headlines: “Prince William admits he was a lazy student at St Andrews” and “He may be a member of the royal family, but even the Duke of Cambridge has confessed to being a LAZY student while at university.” I’m loving the repetition of the word “lazy” when it comes to William these days, quite honestly. It’s been such a long time coming. As for why reporters were throwing around the word “lazy,” it came out of William’s chats with various students.

The Duke of Cambridge has confessed he was a lazy student while at university. William made the revelation to students and benefectors during a visit to Oxford’s Magdalen College to open a new library. Speaking about his time at St Andrews University, he said: “I can’t say I was a regular attender of libraries.”

Dayna Hamilton, a third-year engineering student at Magdalen, was among those the Duke spoke with. She said William claimed he would have gone more often if he had a library like Magdalen’s £11 million refurbished one.

“He said if this was his library he would have gone a little bit more,” she said.

The Duke toured the college’s recently renovated Longwall Library, where he spoke to students who were sitting at desks. But he was quick to realise that they were not really studying hard. Jack Barber, 21, who is reading history at Magdalen and helped raise money for the refurbishment, said William spotted that his book had been placed as a prop for the visit.

“He saw my book and it was obviously the first one I plucked off the shelf. He said ‘Enjoy your pretend studying’.”

The college’s previous library, a converted Victorian schoolhouse, was opened by William’s great-great-uncle, Prince Edward, who went on to become King Edward VIII. Edward was an alumnus of Magdalen College. William also revealed to two major benefactors at the library that he also struggled with pronunciation of the college’s name. He asked Dusty and Hilarie Huscher whether the “g” in Magdalen was silent, and they confirmed that it was pronounced “maud” rather than “mag”.

[From Herald Scotland]

Some other accounts have William being “well received” by the students. While he didn’t make any major gaffes (his pants didn’t waft open, revealing a thong), the accounts of his visit do make him sound pretty awkward and stiff. As for the revelation that William was a lazy student… is anyone surprised? There were lots of stories about how William hated college and wanted to drop out after his first year. Perhaps he just wasn’t interested in high education, perhaps it was all over his head, or perhaps he’s just lazy.

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  1. Amelia says:

    He didn’t know how to pronounce Magdalen College? Seriously?
    This trick can’t even do his research properly for a library opening.

    MOAR KING HARRY, PLZ.

    • Janis says:

      IKR? Even I know that Magdalen is pronounces “maudlin”. He’s such a loser. Why does anyone put up with him?

      • Amelia says:

        It’s not even a case of having it as common knowledge (English is a pretty silly language, tbh) but to be so ill-informed about what you’re doing that day that you don’t know how to pronounce where you’re going?
        Jeez.
        *downs pitcher of mojitos and tries to forget that my taxes are propping the Dolittles up*

      • Elizabeth says:

        I didn’t know that. I’d have pronounced it like it’s spelled.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Perfect example of keeping of your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open wide and confirm it. I can understand the intricacies of pronunciation, but if he was uncertain about that couldn’t he have clarified beforehand? That’s what I’d do.

      • Green Girl says:

        I am with Elizabeth. I would have pronounced it as it was spelled, too, and I don’t think it would even occur to me to ask how it’s pronounced. That being said, I think if you are giving a speech, you or your staff should take a few minutes to verify pronunciations – even the obvious ones.

      • FingerBinger says:

        @Elizabeth I do as well. I’ve never heard it pronounced any other way. I’m going to continue to pronounce it that way.

      • Sixer says:

        Oh, he MUST have known. It’s probably the idiot’s best stab at a bit of semi-jokey badinage. Vast numbers of posh British names are pronounced counter-intuitively, including the surnames of half his friends. Of COURSE he knows how to say it. Have a list of the top of my head:

        Cholmondely
        Mainwaring
        Marjoribanks
        St John
        Beauchamp
        Buccleuch
        Featherstonhaugh
        Menzies

        The list is endless.

      • Green Girl says:

        Please pardon me for being dense, but how do you pronounce “St John”?

      • Sixer says:

        Green Girl: sinjun.

        Here’s a challenge for you in limerick form!

        I remember my school friend Ralph Lumley
        Hated ‘Ralf’ — he thought ‘Raif’ was more comely.
        And old fussy Featherstonehaugh
        Was ‘Fan… (does it scan?) …shaw’,
        And no one quite dared address Cholmondeley

        Make of that what you can!

      • bluhare says:

        St. John is SInjin. Cholmondeley is Chumley. Beauchamp is Beecham. I am curious about Featherstonhaugh and Menzies though!!

      • Sixer says:

        Clue above for Feathers!

        Menzies = mingies.

      • LAK says:

        How about:
        Beaver for Belvoir
        Bofort for Beaufort
        Edinbro for Edinburgh

      • Green Girl says:

        Thank you all for the pronunciations! I never would have guessed, oh, most of them.

      • Devereaux says:

        Alnwick -Ann-ick
        Althorp -Al-TRUPP
        Marylebone – Marley-bone

        (pronounced with hard ‘T’ so don’t pretend you’re French 😉
        Filet- Fi-lette
        Valet- Va-lette

        The English and their pronunciations *shakes head fondly*

      • Feeshalori says:

        I was aware of the pronunciation for some of these names but not the rest. Reading the Outlander series clued me into correctly pronouncing Beauchamp. So thank you for the tutorial in Brit-speak; I know that what you see is not what you necessarily get!

      • Meadow says:

        He should have known, he could have looked it up or asked someone before he made himself look stupid but hey this is Lazy Bill we are talking about here. There are quite a few spelling/pronunciation conundrums in the UK. My favourite is the village called ‘Ugly’ it’s pronounced ‘You-gely’ (rhyming with hugely) reminiscent of Bucket and Bouquet .

    • ClaireB says:

      I am only a moderate Anglophile, and even I know that it’s pronounced “Maudlin” in the grand tradition of the British completely ignoring phonetics. It’s a famous college in Oxford and he’s never paid attention when anyone has said the name? And no one even said it to him that day, as in, “Sir, you will be opening the new library at “Maudlin” College”??

      He is such a knobhead!! I don’t think the saying that any press is good press applies to the royal family, Workshy.

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I hate that thrend among youngish people (my generation) of celebrating being stupid. I will always be an unabashed cultural elitist who’s proud of the vast amount of knowledge, odd or otherwise, that I’ve managed to cram into my head. I love learning – and I love libraries. I would spend hours lost in the stacks at various university libraries in Copenhagen adn Leeds, even through the stacks in the Leeds university library was a claustrophic underground space.

      • Janis says:

        Thank you Claire. I guess watching a lot of PBS British dramas and docs has been good for something other than entertainment. And I agree that he’s a knobhead and such a waste of space. So embarrassing.

      • AtlLady says:

        Mispronunciations can be tough and sometimes deserve a pass. I had heard of the Thames River in England but had never seen it in print before so I mangled it in a college class and the professor was a real dick about it, even after I explained. At the altar, when he was pronouncing us as husband and wife, the minister was reading our names off of a card to make sure he got our middle names right. Even though he had known our family for years as both a minister and a neighbor, he mispronounced my maiden name because he was reading it. Mrs. Minister gave him heck for it at the reception. LOL

      • ClaireB says:

        @ArtHistorian, I’m with you about the magic and glory of libraries. No matter how dank and cramped, the books and the sheer amount of knowledge physically surrounding you is awesome, in the literal sense! I think in the US, the “cult of ignorance” is reaching peak enrollment!

        @Janis, yes, that’s what I was doing when I was watching Masterpiece and Mystery all those years. I was educating myself. Right? I read an American mystery novel that hinged on the British pronunciation of Magdalene!

        @AtlLady, I would give an average Briton or a non-Briton a pass. Not a wealthy British prince who probably knew people who attended that college and no doubt was told where he would be going that morning and still didn’t manage to listen!

      • Feeshalori says:

        l agree wholeheartedly about the lure and appeal of libraries. As a librarian myself, l take pride in the random and eclectic reserves of knowledge that I’ve picked up through my education, reading and just kicking around in the stacks from when I was a child to my current position. I always feel like I’m a kid in a candy store!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I love the physicality of books. I still haven’t embraced the e-book but I may have to since there are some smashing short stories written that mostly are only available in e-format. Still, there’s nothing like a real book in my hands – especially some of the limited, high quality print editions that I have of certain favorite authors of mine.

      • Feeshalori says:

        E-books aren’t in my immediate future, either, since I also enjoy the tactile sense of holding a book and touching pages. But l might also have to bite the bullet when it comes to novels only available in e-format. I’m holding out, though!

      • notasugarhere says:

        One of my big problems with ebooks is you lose the joy of browsing. Wandering through the shelves or piles at the local used book store and finding something wonderful.

      • Feeshalori says:

        The biggest perk of my job is opening up boxes of new boxes and preparing them to go on the shelves or out on reserve. I love to handle them, browse through the ones that catch my eye and decide if I want to read them. Dipping my hands through substantial piles of books is nirvana to me!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        I love browsing libraries – or bookshops. The only shopping that I really enjoy is shopping for books.

        I don’t have the money to indulge my passion for old books but I do have rare one book from 1878 by a Danish art historian that I needed for my thesis and it had gone missing at both the university and the national library. My father found a copy at an antiquarian and gave it to me for my birthday. It is rather fragile though since it really needs a new binding (the covers), so it is wrapped in brown paper. My old college dorm had another book by the same art historian and it was just such a gorgeous and almost pristine edition.

      • notasugarhere says:

        What a wonderful gift from your father!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        My father is the best!

    • Mary Mary says:

      You mean too lazy to learn the correct pronunciation of where it one is to give a talk?

      Attending a university is a privilege not a right. Boasting of being a lazy student is nothing to be proud of. Why not motivate others by speaking about opportunity. But then again, Bill was born to privilege that was unearned through hard work.

      Hard work and privilege don’t go together, especially when that privilege wasn’t earned, but inherited.

  2. Castor & Pollux says:

    As a loyal reader of the Will & Kate columns, I have a question for all of you. Hypothetical – let’s say starting tomorrow, Will buckles down, really gets going visiting charities, attending events that don’t involve celebrities, polo, or tennis, begins to actually follow #PoorJason’s advice, racks up Anne-level numbers, et cetera. Would we get on board and come over to Team Cambridge? Because personally, I think that ship has sailed. I would have a very hard time believing that he’s doing anything genuinely – he’s already made it abundantly clear that he loathes the part of his position that includes actual work. What do you all think?

    Disclaimer: Consider Team Cambridge’s mandatory dress code before you make your decision:

    1. Wedges of Dooooooom!
    2. Wiglets for you and all of your immediate family members
    3. Get ready to bare your biscuits, ladies, because inappropriately short skirts are your new best friend
    4. Tell your husband/boyfriend exhibitionism is the name of the game, because he’ll be wearing this season’s hottest look: meat & veg flaunting pants
    5. Better invest in dental floss, because huge, open mouth maniacal grins are expected at any and all events
    6. Buttons, buttons, and more buttons! Buttons for everyone! Button bras, button sunglasses, button socks, and more! Anything standing still long enough will be buttoned!
    7. Get your wallets out, because buying 6,000 coat-dresses – all in virtually the same color, is required
    8. Do you enjoy people mistaking you for a raccoon and/or a drunken 80s debutante? Great! Waity’s trademark eyeliner must be worn at all times (yes, this includes sleeping, showering, and skipping out on shamrock-related events)

    Did I forget anything? 😉
    PS. I am actually asking if you’d support them if they worked, despite my cheeky list.

    • swak says:

      Honestly, at this point it would seem all for PR, especially if they are going to put everything out there for the world to see. If they quietly (one picture or a statement like when Harry decided to stay extra time to help) do things then maybe people would start to come around. But I think it’s going to take a lot for people to believe William isn’t as lazy as he is. Same with Kate. Stop with the excuses and get over yourselves. BTW – LOVE your list.

    • Janis says:

      Love your list, C&P. Another non-dress code item that is a must-have for them is the credit limit-free credit card courtesy of the British taxpayers.
      The Doolittles have shown their true natures – work-shy, entitled, arrogant beyond belief, vain and disdainful of the public. No, I could not take them seriously if they suddenly showed an interest in doing their jobs. SMH

    • Natalie says:

      If they consistently work for at least 6 months and they admitted their previous foolishness: no idea how to be a full-time Royal, criticism just part of the job, don’t want to create expectations, can’t work because too busy parenting.

      If they try to paper it all over as if it were just a misunderstanding, that would indicate short-term damage control rather than a real change of heart.

      • bluhare says:

        I agree with that, Natalie. SHort term damage control would backfire.

      • Wren says:

        That’s what I want thinking. Even if they never really apologized for their past and current behavior, they’d have to buckle down and work hard for a significant time to win back good will. Hard work is not a pattern for them, so their current busy, well busier, schedule seems like PR and everyone is just waiting for the next long lull.

        If they got down to it and plugged along for at least 6 months, maybe even a year or two, established a new pattern, I think there’s hope. But it would take time, there’d be no instant gratification or payoff.

      • Lucky Charm says:

        It would take significantly longer than six months of steady work to consider them actually taking the job seriously. Anything less than two or three years of steady, consistent work in ALL avenues (not just the fun or glitzy ones) would just be taken as PR to improve their image, not a change of work ethic. In five years, with a verifiable track record, I think they can have the public support that’s missing now.

    • bluhare says:

      Hahaha. Meat and veg pants. 🙂

      Yes, I’d support them, falling under the better late than never category, as well as the doesn’t matter why at least they’re doing it category. They don’t generate the magic that Harry does, that’s for sure, but if they got out and did more of the work, I could forgive them that. They can’t help it; you either have it or you don’t. Slow and steady can win a race too.

      I have a question for people in Britain. At the last Invictus Games was Harry everywhere like he is here? We got no coverage of it in 2014, and the only things I saw were what was printed in the British papers. But he’s killing it over here!! Even did an in-studio appearance on ESPN2 last night, and was just lovely. I’ve been amazed, and people paying attention are practically gaga over the guy.

      • LAK says:

        In response to your last question vis a vis Harry and Invictus London, yep. He was just as involved. He was often seen cycling between venues, chatting to people, cheering athletes, attending operational meetings. It later came out that he showed up ahead of each day’s scheduled events for briefing meetings and stayed behind long after each day’s events.

        That went a long way in creating positive Harry image.

      • bluhare says:

        Thank you LAK. And I can see why; and how much it helps if you really care about what you’re doing. He’s by far the best of the younger generation. By far.

      • Sixer says:

        bluhare – Invictus itself is getting major coverage, so by extension Harry. Don’t forget the importance of the BBC in this on our side of the Pond. It is running coverage in a dedicated show for half an hour each evening on BBC1, the main channel – so pretty much guaranteed 5m viewers or more. Plus, they’ve commissioned two supporting shows – Gareth and his choir, as I showed you, and another one with a popular presenter who followed some of the competitors in the lead-up to the games.

        I often say on here that I don’t understand Normal Bill’s endless snubs and overt dislike of the BBC. It has a HUGE role in keeping the population happy with/placated with* the monarchy.

        *delete according to personal bias!

      • notasugarhere says:

        Did you see Michael J. Fox showed up at seated volleyball? He was inspired to attend after seeing the coverage on ESPN. He hinted that he’ll have to make a point to show up next year when the games are in his native Canada.

        Also, Ulfat Al-Zwiri of Jordan was amazing.

      • bluhare says:

        Thank you everyone. I hope that it gets good enough ratings that it’s picked up on actual ESPN or a network next time. I’m enjoying watching it.

        Is there going to be a second episode on the choir? YouTube said “episode 1” which implies there’s an episode 2.

        That’s lovely Michael J Fox showed up. You know who else should show up? William. At the closing ceremonies to surprise and support his brother.

      • Sixer says:

        One more episode of the choir. Thursday night. Presumably, they’ll put it up on YouTube again?

      • bluhare says:

        I forgot the most important question, Sixer. Who was the Phantom Pooper Outside the Bakery?

      • Sixer says:

        OH! I have been meaning to say! Mrs B with the collie. Caught by shop CCTV. She is STILL denying it, though, silly woman.

      • notasugarhere says:

        KP twitter announced a surprise. Hoping it is not W&K coming to take credit for Harry’s work again.

        Kensington Palace twitter
        We’re expecting some special guests @InvictusOrlando today – stay tuned!

      • bluhare says:

        Good thing we didn’t have a bet going here, Sixer. My money would have been on the labrador!!

        I think it would be good if William came to support his brother, nas. Charles too.

      • ClaireB says:

        Surely William hasn’t had long enough to fly over since he had an event today. Crossing my fingers that it’s actually someone interesting and not Duchess DoLittle.

      • lower-case deb says:

        @Sixer, speaking of BBC1 saw on twitter the amazing reception of the tv watching public to sitting volleyball final.
        were they showing it live, the whole tournament or just a snippet? it was quite unclear on twitter.

        many applauded BBC1 giving an adaptive sport coverage on such valuable tv real estate–primetime!

        many others were surprised at how amazing sitting volleyball is actually. a few said that it’s going into their bucket list; and at least one guy said he completely forgot a get together because he got so swept up in the action. and he didn’t regret it one bit.

        such positive reactions! i am so happy, and well done BBC1. maybe next time more than half an hour 🙂

      • MM says:

        The special guests (that I noticed) were Ian Thorpe and the USAF Chief of Staff who supported and presented medals at the swim competitions.

      • Sixer says:

        Deb – I don’t think it was live but I can’t be sure! Disabled sport gets quite good coverage here, especially since the 2012 Paralympics. We do very well on elite disability sport generally. Less so, perhaps on the non-elite side, but still not bad. Sixlet Minor runs cross country competitively and his athletics club is mixed ability, for example. He trains with a boy who runs as an amputee after meningitis and a couple of kids with CP.

      • lower-case deb says:

        @Sixer, yay for Sixlet Minor!!
        I hope he’s enjoying it and you too! Maybe one day we all at Celebitchy can see you cheering your heart out on the Beebs!

        It’s great to hear about good sports programming, hope it will be better at the minor events as well; here we’re struggling to get anything on tele other than soccer, boxing and badminton (they used to be good at track and field–my fav spectator sport–but no more, booo)

    • Hudson Girl says:

      No, I would NOT come on board. Their characters are forever fixed now that I know who they both really are.

      BUT, most people (outside of those reading gossip and paying attention, etc) have absolutely no idea what jerks they really are to squander their priceless opportunities to help. Most people think they are “great” and “cute family” and would quickly come on board. I caught the end of E Entertainment (I think) before the Met Gala thing aired and the lazy duo get a lot of fluffy/nauseating press in the US.

      • Olenna says:

        Ditto. For me, the final straws quickly followed one another starting with the India boondoggle, then the sitting room art fiasco and lastly, (drum-roll) the Vogue cover. For the past five years, I’ve seen hardly more than a continuous stream of wasted opportunities, tone deafness and ignorance.

      • Janis says:

        The last straws were when Willnot took the helicopter for a private visit to MI-6 (I think) and when it was mentioned in the press, it was suddenly changed to a royal engagement just to cover his ass. All so the taxpayers had to foot the bill. For Cannot, it had to be the St. Patrick’s Day shamrock snub of the Irish veterans. Then, add on the Indian tour, sorry vacation and the Vogue cover while doing no work and I’m about to scream.

    • Sixer says:

      I would not because I am a republican.

      However, I think most Britishers would. Not that this means I think they would become enthusiastic cheerleaders. I simply think most Brits DGAF about the royals one way or another, so what would happen is that they would stop moaning about the Cambridges and find something new to moan about. Britishers like to moan. Few give the monarchy a second thought if it isn’t providing a fertile opportunity for a moan.

      • bluhare says:

        So William and Kate are quite successful, then!

      • antipodean says:

        Ha, ha, Sixer, I am with you on the moan front, us republicans (UK not US version), love something to mither about. @C&P, your list is inspired, and made me spit my coffee! I am so pleased you mentioned the meat and vege, so I don’t have to, you have considerably brightened my day!
        I think the Buckets have all but cooked their goose, but unfortunately the great unwashed tend to have short memories, and Bill and Cath may yet redeem themselves. It is looking very unlikely though.

      • Sixer says:

        You know what we are like! Love a half empty glass. If Normal Bill and Chutney fell into line, any interest in them would be lost. Can’t be doing with glasses that are half full!

      • antipodean says:

        @bluhare, ESPN2 are showing highlights of the day at around1900hrs this week, and they showed the entire opening ceremony, all two hours of it. It was glorious, and moving in equal parts!
        @Sixer, I suspected it was that pesky collie pooping up the place (not really, but it makes a good story, and I’m sticking to it)! Mrs B should be ashamed of herself, and be made to sit in the stocks on the village green, and pelted with rotten vege for her sins. I will be the first to shout “shame” and raise a half full pint of best to her disgrace. Flagrant flouting of the pooping laws cannot be countenanced by the villagers, and especially not in front of HM Post Office, and such.
        I do hope You Tube put up the second part of Gareth’s choir. I cried buckets at the first installment, and can’t wait to see how it all turns out for them. They are such a brave and inspiring ensemble. A triumph of the human spirit, each and every one.

      • Sixer says:

        Mrs B is entirely unrepentant and says the CCTV is inconclusive. You have to love her chutzpah. AND her husband is on the village skittles team. AWKWARD!

    • Vava says:

      I think Kate would have to increase her duties too. Otherwise “the ship has sailed” for me.

    • The Original Mia says:

      No, I wouldn’t support them because I’d know they were being forced to do these things. It would be pure survivalist and not because they felt any real sense of duty or empathy for the people.

    • ClaireB says:

      If it looked genuine, I would support them. If it looked sullen or forced, then no, I’d be critical of their continued poor attitudes, regardless of whether they showed up to work or not. And I would also be critical of her styling skills if she continued to wear clothing that was inappropriate for the event and her audience. The flashing would definitely have to stop.

      • Zoobie says:

        Why the heck isn’t someone sewing hem weights in her dresses?????? Listen, I attended high school home ec in a VERY small place and we learned about hem weights so I don’t see how she has any excuse. And for goodness sakes she has someone to sew them in for her!! (not that it’s much of a chore anyway). Someone who looks after her clothes should quietly do it and frankly I’m surprised the Queen hasn’t said to do it.

    • LAK says:

      It’s an interesting response. I would have said that if you’d asked this question to this forum 18mths ago, the answer would be mostly yes. Now it seems that it’s mostly no.

    • cindyp says:

      Besides the wiglets, sausage curls & hair blowing all over the place, no matter the occasion.
      Also, outfits that are the polar opposite of what the occasion warrants…ie bright pink for a somber occasion like visiting the 911 Memorial & dark colors & heels for children’s events.

      • Feeshalori says:

        As a New Yorker, seeing her wear that neon pink to the memorial got me right in the gullet.

      • Jib says:

        Me, too, Feeshalori. That’s the first time I said, “What the heck?” over on the fug site, and I was roundly scolded. Ha!

      • Feeshalori says:

        Jib, that’s one for the “What was she thinking?” file. Certainly not of the venue she was officially visiting.

    • Emily C. says:

      I will never support monarchy. But I wouldn’t be personally critical of them any longer if they shaped up and stayed that way.

    • Meadow says:

      It would take years to convince me he had changed his spots, for a start he’d actually have to learn to genuinely smiling rather than just bare his teeth when on royal duty .

    • Sadezilla says:

      @C&P, your list made my morning! Thank you!

      Does anyone read the Fug Girls? I love them unabashedly in most things, but they are way too Dolittle-friendly for my taste. It sticks in my craw.

  3. aims says:

    Maybe he knows what his fate is going to be. So why bother? That’s the only thing I can think of.

    • perplexed says:

      Charles has a somewhat intellectual streak so I’m surprised William didn’t get a bit of that curiosity. Diana wasn’t intellectual, but since William didn’t her charisma, you’d think he might have gotten Charles’s intellectual curiosity to balance out the lack of charisma.

      • K2 says:

        Diana did her research before engagements.

        I know someone who was astonished when she visited his company in the ’80s. She knew who all the directors were by name at once, what the industry was, and she asked sensible questions. He realised those would have been supplied to her, but what couldn’t have been were her follow-up questions, because those were dependent upon their answers. He’d always thought she was an airhead; he ended up of the opinion that she was just atrociously badly educated, and actually fairly bright. He’d argued with the other directors over her being invited at all, having been a republican since university days, so he wasn’t a natural admirer.

        DIana worked hard. Whatever else can be leveled at her, and I must admit I don’t exactly think she was a good mother or an especially nice woman, she certainly wasn’t lazy.

        EDIT: sorry, that sounds as if you were saying that she was. I appreciate you weren’t – it was just a comment that both his parents have and had good work ethics, so I’m not sure what went wrong with him.

  4. Jaded says:

    He said “he would have gone more often if he had a library like Magdalen’s £11 million refurbished one.” St. Andrews King James Library is said to be magnificent. He’s just study-phobic, no library on earth would entice him.

    “He saw my book and it was obviously the first one I plucked off the shelf. He said ‘Enjoy your pretend studying’.” Yeah right….enjoy your pretend career you wanker.

  5. Lainey says:

    He’s just lazy. And let’s face it if he didn’t say this we probably wouldn’t be talking about these events. His solo ones dont get any coverage unless he messes up. Love that all the articles have lazy in caps to highlight it.

  6. littlemissnaughty says:

    See, this stuff only works if you went on to become a hard-working, successful individual. If you already have the lazy label attached to you, this does not come off as charming and self-deprecating. He really has no idea, does he??? If Harry ran around making fun of his rather mediocre academic achievements, that would be fine. Because he can stand there and go “But look how I turned anyway.”

    I know I’m nitpicking now but I can’t help it. It it me or is pointing out the staged nature of that library tour kind of a d*ck move? I know I know, British humor etc. etc. but dude, every engagement you have is staged and the setting is always unnatural.

    • HH says:

      It comes off not that great because people would kill to have the same resources and opportunities he’s had. Like you said, it would be self deprecating if he didn’t come off so petulant and spoiled at other times. I actually don’t think the quotes are that bad by themselves. We’ve all had moments in academia where we did the bare minimum. Even if it was just for one week of classes. There are times as a student where you’re just mentally drained.

    • Green Girl says:

      Nope, I’m with you on this. Remember how Princess Diana famously described herself as stupid? She was truly anything but. Someone who’s lazy today and admits to being lazy over a decade ago should maybe rethink which anecdote they’d like to share.

      I cringed when I read that comment directed to the student. It was rude!

    • Birdix says:

      This is so true. I think many people fault themselves for not taking advantage of all of the intellectual opportunities at university (I sure do, even though I worked hard I wish I hadn’t been so shy around professors). But as you say, that only works if you have gone on to be productive. And frankly, this is one reason I think a gap year can be so helpful (although didn’t William take one?). There was a guy in my freshman dorm who had, and he had so much more direction, and was so much clearer on what he wanted to get out of the university experience than the rest of us.

      • Enough of the potshots says:

        OMG enough! He was making a self-deprecating joke. If anything, he was talking the library up by saying he would have gone more had those resources been available at St. Andrews. Again, St. Andrews has great resources. It was a light-hearted comment.

        As for the gap year, I was 17 when I started college. I graduated magna cum laude with a degree in Math with departmental honors and attended an Ivy league grad school right after. Crushed that as well and am now on faculty at Georgetown at age 25. And I had a great social life to boot. No gap year. There is no one-size-fits-all formula to life. Some people have more direction than others. Gap year or no gap year…

      • perplexed says:

        “As for the gap year, I was 17 when I started college. I graduated magna cum laude with a degree in Math with departmental honors and attended an Ivy league grad school right after. Crushed that as well and am now on faculty at Georgetown at age 25. And I had a great social life to boot. No gap year. There is no one-size-fits-all formula to life. Some people have more direction than others. Gap year or no gap year…”

        William didn’t achieve what you did though — that’s probably why people are mocking him.

      • Jib says:

        So Enough, Wills is on the faculty of a top university? Also, don’t you need a doctorate to teach at Georgetown? You are quite young for a doctorate, so congrats!!!

      • Tina says:

        @Enough, which department do you teach in at Georgetown? No one on the Math faculty is young enough to be 25. Unless you’re an adjunct…

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        I have a friend who worked as a professor at a university at the age of 27. Let’s do maths, you get a degree by the age of 22 (without the gap year and if it’s a 5 years length degree); 2 years masters – age 24, doctorate, 3 years top, 27…
        Nowadays, some degrees are only 3 years in length – 20 you get your degree, 22, the masters, 25 the doctorate… Easy..

      • Llamas says:

        @Enough I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not. If you aren’t that whole “As for the gap year…” Paragraph was a way OTT. You could have ended it after that sentence with “I’ve turned out fine.” I’m all for being proud of your accomplishments but there’s a point where it turns into downright bragging. Humility is a virtue, you know.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        Oh, I said easy to do the maths, not doing all that, I wouldn’t be able to, but I do congratulate anyone who makes it in that time frame…My friend included…

  7. JustCrimmles says:

    Why he doesn’t thank his lucky stars at least weekly, that the Cambridges aren’t likely to go the way of say, the Habsburg-Bourbons, circa 1793, is something I’ve only recently realized. Is it too late for the states to come back under British control? Because I’d love to see that tour play out. Picture it: Wills & Waity do Appalachia and the deep south. If there is a God…

    • Starkiller says:

      Typically xenophobic and ignorant comment. The people of Appalachia and the Deep South had no more say in what country or they were born in than did the royals, or anyone else. Most people I know would rather spend time with the people you slammed and disparaged than with these spongers any day.

      • JustCrimmles says:

        Cool your jets, I’m FROM the south. Some of us can take a joke, ffs.

      • Emily C. says:

        @JustCriminal, I laughed. I have no idea how your comment could be seen as slamming anyone but Will and Kate. This is the kind of thing I never thought I’d say ten years ago, but some people online these days are phenomenally eager to take offense. Yeesh.

    • Feeshalori says:

      JC, I thought your comment was pretty hilarious, too. I can just visualize Kate’s version of theme-dressing to tour that region. Why, bless my heart!

      • Zoobie says:

        I’m from Kentucky on the Tennessee border and I thought it was amazingly funny! I too was picturing the outfits, yes the “theme dressing!” and the comments!!! You know one year the Queen came here, during Derby time I believe and visited a horse farm etc. Of course she is quite the horseman so she had plenty to talk about and of course she is a lovely lady. I would love to meet her and talk dogs and dog training as I understand she has quite the knack for it. But Will and Kate? no thanks! (although I would pay good money for a peak at her theme dressing!”

      • JustCrimmles says:

        Thanks, everyone! And it’s pretty easy to picture the Queen at the Derby. She seems genuinely delightful, but so intimidating. Like, I’d love to be somewhere the same time as her, but I’m not sure I could handle meeting her. Unless she brought the Corgis. The royal humans are more or less snooze to me generally, but lemme at the smooshy, fluff butt Corgis!

      • ArtHistorian says:

        Love corgis too! There’s just something about that sausage shape, short legs and big ears that puts a smile on my face. 🙂

    • happyXamp says:

      As an Appalachian (I hail from WV), I would pay to see the Hair try and talk to a coal miner.

  8. Tourmaline says:

    Lol at the part about his pants wafting open…. Seriously though think its a combo of lazy entitlement and not being very bright or curious. both St Andrews catering to him, and Kate catering to him and probably doing his homework for him too, ensured he made it through university.

    Kate has a SIR BEN AINSLIE event coming up. I bet she’s already ironing her Jeggings in sweet anticipation.

    • Amelia says:

      Fun fact – I went to the same school that Ben Ainslee attended as a kid.
      I missed my leavers speech day because I was ill but my parents attended, and Ainslee was the speaker/prize giver that year (this was just before the 2012 Olympics).
      Apparently he’s a very ‘down-to-earth bloke’ according to the ‘rents, Andrews overheard him mentioning to my old headmaster that he finds all the Royal events insufferably boring, but usually grins and bears it for the funding/exposure and heads straight to the pub afterwards.

      It’s petty, but it makes me smile to think of him ditching the Duchess of Jeggings for a pint of Stella immediately afterwards 😁

  9. Moon says:

    I graduated from St Andrews and I’m going to defend Will on this one. Our library was notoriously bad, it was small and cramped and barely had any books available for coursework. Most university buildings were old and medieval but this one was an ugly eyesore built in the 80s and looked like a concrete prison with cheap carpeting. If you wanted to borrow a book for your essay you were in trouble because they never had more than 3-5 copies despite enrollment of 100 students in the course. Can’t blame him, I heard he hated his time at uni and I am sympathetic, most kids who went there got sick of it pretty quick.

    • bluhare says:

      That really did make him seem ungrateful and sucky-uppy. So thank you for saying that.

    • Alexa de Vere says:

      Hello fellow St. Andrews person!
      I’m going to disagree with you here (in the friendliest of ways) – ok it wasn’t massively beautiful but there were loads of copies of titles in short loan and you could order stuff in. It was a long time ago now but i don’t remember having any particular problems accessing stuff. Maybe that was just my course though.
      Tbh I spent most of my fourth year in the department library actually- trying to get the attention of this guy. He’s now my husband! Anyway, I digress. You’re right in that it’s not fabulous, but I certainly wasn’t sick of it and it wasn’t any better or worse than the library at Cambridge where I went afterwards.

      • moon says:

        Hi fellow St. A! I did IR and econ and both those courses were massively oversubscribed, it was IMPOSSIBLE to get books. All the books I needed were always out on short loan…Personally I thought the school was awful, not enough class hours and too much emphasis on ‘self-study’, which is pretty much paying 20 grand to teach yourself a degree.

    • perplexed says:

      3-5 copies of one particular book sounds like a fair amount to me. The really big university libraries might only have 2 at most.

    • Emily C. says:

      3-5 copies of any book is a lot, even for a huge school with a massive library. If it’s one that everyone needs, like a necessary textbook for the course, aren’t you expected to buy it in England like you are in the U.S.?

      • Tina says:

        @Emily C, yes, you are. As someone who studied in North America, I find it difficult to sympathise with the students who moan about paying £9k per year. I graduated with over $100k of debt. There is only so much tax revenue that is going to come in. When university was free, only a tiny part of the population went to university. Should everyone get to go to university? Do you want to spend the money on university or the NHS? I know what my answers are.

      • moon says:

        It’s not, because they’re not official coursework textbooks (which we did purchase) – they were additional readings needed for essays. You have deadlines, a short window with which to finish the essay and with a 100 students + only 3-5 copies, it actually is impossible to get books you need for your essays. I’m not talking about textbooks.

        @Tina I studied for my masters in North America and I am well aware of the differences. We pay less for uni in the UK, but you get a lot less hours and class time. For my 3rd and 4th year in college, I was only required to take 2 courses a semester and each course amounted to two hours of class time a week. That’s right – I was paying 10K GBP a year for 4 hours of class a week. The rest was left for ‘self-study’.

      • Tina says:

        @moon, I teach at a UK university, I know how it works. The reality is that students in the humanities and social sciences subsidise the science students, who need lab time, which is expensive. We can’t charge them more, so you get less. There are options in the UK that are like a US-style experience (the New College of the Humanities, for example, which costs £18k per year) but most people in the UK simply aren’t able to pay for that.

  10. Citresse says:

    I think despite William’s laziness he still generates more attention than his wife, the Duchess of Dull. I notice the interest in her is really waning now. I mean, how many more times can we summon the energy to keep complaining about her beige shoes, her hair. her clothing? She needs to give another speech soon.

    • Janis says:

      And get bangs again. That last speech of hers was memorably sad but funny as well because of her bangs.

      • Citresse says:

        IKR? People really ripped her to shreds with the head shaking moves (combo of nerves and the gringe in her eyes) but others (me included) respected her willingness to try to combat her nerves and complete her speech. The Duchess needs to realize it’s OK to show she’s human (no one is perfect) and not fear the negative response because ultimately the majority of people will respect her willingness to try, her willingness to get out there and WORK!!!! And hopefully make a difference.

      • ClaireB says:

        She deserved to be ripped to shreds about those stupid bangs, because anyone who has ever had bangs knows they fall into your face at any opportunity. She needed industrial strength hairspray or to have pinned them back if she was going to be reading a speech from her notes. (And she should have practiced beforehand to know if she would need her notes or not.) If she were really accomplished, as she ought to be after 5 years in the royal family, she could have gathered up some bobby pins from her assistant or stylist while apologizing for a hair malfunction in a light-hearted way, and then gone on with her speech without the ridiculous head-bobbing.

        I’d apologize for being so vehement, but this is really 8th grade stuff here, not 34-year-old woman behavior. So I’m not sorry.

  11. Feeshalori says:

    Call me old school, but l was an habitue of libraries all my life regardless of whether they were state of the art or not. But that’s the bibliophile in me.

    • LAK says:

      Me too.

    • Magnoliarose says:

      I love libraries too. I can lose time in a good one.

    • Meadow says:

      Libraries are heaven, I joined NADFAS in the UK and several times a year there were opportunities to volunteer for a weekend at at stately home, cathedral or museum, usually cataloguing, dusting, rearranging, sorting , checking for mildew and packing up things in the library or archives. Such a privledged way better than a weekend at a resort.

  12. Alexa de Vere says:

    Well his derision at the state of the St. Andrews library is so breathtakingly offensive.
    I was there are the same time as him and, ok, it is not the most beautiful of buildings but it is well resourced and had everything we needed. This comment makes him seem fabulously entitled and snobby and out of touch with us all; I usually sort of stick up for team Cambridge sometimes because we all felt quite protective of him while we were living in the same town. But now that he’s revealed that the facilities weren’t quite to his standard, well, sod off frankly – it was good enough for the rest of us who actually had to work for our degrees!

    • Nic919 says:

      His entitlement and privilege blinds him to how the rest of the world lives. I don’t know what century he thinks he lives in, but the taxpayers are not going to blindly support an ignorant ass for very long. If he can’t accept that his life is one of service, then get off the dole.

      The Queen gets it, Prince Charles gets it… So he needs to get a clue fast. There is a chance he gets the crown in under ten years. Scary thought indeed.

      Sadly, one’s character is usually quite formed by 34, so I don’t know if there is a realistic chance than he can change his ways.

      • Jib says:

        I’m always stunned by the thought that Diana died just two years older and Wills and Kate and how much she accomplished in her very short life and their complete and utter lack of accomplishments!

  13. lower-case deb says:

    sorry for the threadjacking but… i feel like these men and women are worth threadjacking for 😀

    the men and women have quite literally pulled a miracle here!

    i finally found the Invictus Choir’s performance at the opening ceremony!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=huHc2S0Iq_E

    i don’t understand why its not available online more, given its own segment or official youtube video, or gone viral yet. even this one was taken on a smartphone (but a good one)

    finding this video is like finding a holy grail.

    as usual: prepare buckets, saltwater fish tanks, tissues or whatever. the song(s) and arrangements are basically designed to make rocks and mighty mountains cry.

    • bluhare says:

      Thank you!!! I can’t believe you found that.

      ETA: I wish they’d done One Direction, though!!

    • ClaireB says:

      Thank you for finding this! It’s a good thing I had my tissues next to me, and now I really want to see the implied second episode of Gareth’s Choir because I want to see them writing their song!

      Where is the One Direction song, though? Did they not perform it?

      ETA: I found it! Well, sort of. Metro.co.uk says it will air 9pm (BST) Tues May 12, so we should start looking tomorrow afternoon/evening in USA!

    • Sixer says:

      Claire – it’s on Thursday (tomorrow), BBC1, 9pm. Repeated the following Tuesday at 11.30pm on BBC2. It should be on iPlayer by about 10pm tomorrow night, but can’t speak for YouTube.

      • ClaireB says:

        Thanks for the correction, Sixer! I’ve taken a migraine pill and a pain pill today, so I didn’t even see that the day and the date didn’t match!

    • ClaireB says:

      Since there’s no Harry/IG post today, I thought I’d put this here.

      I’m a SAHM with cable, so I use the WatchESPN app to watch the few sports I’m interested in. I’ve had the Invictus Games on for three days now, and it’s been great to watch these athletes compete and support each other.

      On Monday, only three sponsors had ad time on WatchESPN: Fisher House, Sage accounting software, and Pentagon Federal Credit Union. Tuesday, though, brought a couple new ads from Android phones and Voya financial services. And today, even more, though the only two I remember are Chase financial and Dick’s Sporting Goods.

      The conclusion I’m drawing from this is that people are actually watching and paying attention to the games and Harry’s celebrity and “extraordinary privilege” are doing what he wants them to do and helping to promote the IG and the servicemembers in them. If someone has more information about advertising and thinks something different, please let me know, but I’m optimistic that Harry’s tireless promotion has paid off.

      • lower-case deb says:

        that’s an interesting devleopment! thanks @ClaireB for tracking them down 🙂 i hope more and more people are tuned in and excited for next year too.

        tomorrow is closing ceremony? i hope even more will advertise, thus showing that there’s indeed heightened interest!

        @bluhare, i wonder about the One Direction song too! maybe they’re singing it for closing? amazing that they essentially got two songs and all the harmonies and everything and overcoming anxieties, memory problems in such short space of time. such an inspiration…

        and now i have to figure out a way to install all those anonymizer vpns! so i can catch the iPlayer episode 2!!! i have roughly 24hrs to do so!

  14. Ollie says:

    Education is a privilege. There are so many girls and boys out here who would love to go to school and study. William had all these possibilities and didn’t use them. Just sad.
    We all are lazy from time to time. That’s normal … but William… I fear he has zero interest in the world around him and no plans. He visits charities since he is a child, he meets unfortunate people. They tell him their dreams and pain and William seems to forget this when he leaves. I wonder if he ever felt the need to really do something? After all he has seen and heard did he ever think ‘i have everything. I will work and study and try to make this world better with all my privilege?’

    • Jib says:

      I was wondering after they met the “rail station” kids in India if they would make any effort to partner up with an Indian charity and perhaps do some work helping those poor kids. Nope. Not one comment even. Just Katie going to look at her “pretty” Vogue pictures.

      I agree – they both see such suffering and then leave and never give it another thought. Breathtakingly thoughtless and self-involved.

  15. Alexa de Vere says:

    Also, while I’m here, I doubt st Andrews will be thrilled by all this- did w&k not go and visit the new library refurb during the 600 celebrations? I’m sure he was polite as pie about the library on the day, they’ll be sad to hear that he actually thought it was wank.

    Wanker.

  16. AmandaPanda says:

    You missed out in your summary the fact that one girl told him she’d worked for the BBC and he responded

    “I won’t hold that against you”

    Clearly not a fan of the state broadcaster…! Silly thing for him to say. It’s all very political at the moment.

    Anyway, lazy dopey guy is lazy & dopey. Nothing new to see here, move along….

    • Sixer says:

      This is how stupid he is. The biggest institution in the UK on whose support he can rely. And he loses no opportunity to trash it. The man is certifiably thick.

      • Guesto says:

        For sure but it’s his peevish, arrogant charmlessness – not his thickness – that’s his real and terminal downfall.

        (I’m watching ‘The Windsors’ on catch-up. That’s the only William I can deal with. ‘Camilla’ is magnificent!)

  17. Guesto says:

    He really is the Duke of Dunce.

  18. Cerys says:

    William admits to be lazy at college. What a surprise. Nothing has changed. Many people don’t know how to pronounce “Magdalen” properly but they don’t have the benefit of staff to do some background preparation for them. Of course, it is quite likely that his staff did prepare things for him and lazybones didn’t read it.

    • moon says:

      Not to be a Will apologist, but he did graduate with a decent 2:1 degree. And I’ll politely disagree with Alexa my fellow college alumni and say that in my humble non-royal opinion, the library was atrocious. I went to a LAC in the states after and I was amazed at the resources on offer. I’m going to defend him on this one, he’s also entitled to how he feels about the awful library and I know many who wouldn’t disagree.

      • Alexa de Vere says:

        Oh dear- maybe I have the old rose tinted specs on today! I honestly don’t remember it being that bad- overly yellow perhaps! I remember laughing so hard when some dude sellotaped his friends phone to the underneath of the table he was working on and then kept ringing it- it had us in stitches for a good hour. It’s a wonder any of us got degrees!

      • Tina says:

        You can’t compare UK facilities to those in the US. £9k buys about $13k. Any US university that charges $13k per year is a state school that is heavily subsidised by out of state and foreign students. The resources simply don’t bear comparison.

      • moon says:

        Alexa – it may be that I was really looking forward to uni and was just so disappointed by St Andrews. The brochures and reviews hyped it up so much, and it failed to live up to its own hype! The school wasn’t all that bad, but I think it spent way too much on marketing and not enough on educational resources…I was there 5 years after Will graduated.

  19. HoustonGrl says:

    Maybe he was a lazy student because he’s never faced the pressure of competing for a job. His comments are really thick, thanks for pointing out his ribbon-cutting ways. It’s not like he did anything for this library, other than show up and take credit.

  20. Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

    Well, as a teacher I’m very aware that school and university libraries only have the resources the teachers/professors ask them to buy. In every single school (and we’re talking about highschools), every year, the library asks us to give them a list of what books are most needed and then (with the budget they get) the librarian proceeds to order them from the publishers…
    So, if St Andrews didn’t have many books, it was probably the professors’ fault…

    • perplexed says:

      I think professors usually expect the students to buy the books themselves, although maybe in Britain the system works differently? From my experience, the professors give you a reading list and you’re expected to find the books they’ve ordered for you to buy in the bookstore. The alternative is to go to a used bookstore to find a cheaper copy.

      • Solanacaea (Nighty) says:

        I’m Portuguese… Professors know students aren’t going to buy books that cost (in many cases) 200 or 250 €, sometimes more (in the case of engineering, medicine, etc.). Because the translation into Portuguese from English ends up being very expensive for publisher’s, the books have a very high cost, so it’s university libraries that buy them, 3,4, 5 or more examplers and students can only access them at the uni’s library.

  21. Tina says:

    Hope I’m not threadjacking, but I completely agree with the Queen about her comments today. Rude. Bloody rude. Ever been to Bicester Village? Pushing and shoving and rudeness. See also every tourist hotspot in Paris.

  22. Debbie says:

    As a professor at a Midwestern school in the US, understand often we have small department budgets and get limited orders in terms of the libraries. I also work in a university system that does text rental and not text buying. We professors are constantly being singled out for not doing things right, so understand there are librarians and budgets involved and libraries are not just filled by faculty.

  23. mimi says:

    why he should learn much harder than anyone else, he is an heir, and his life will always be a priority, for a lifetime.

    he will not have to worry every month, fighting for works on double shift, for paying home, food,cleaning, service, car and anything that any normal people would fight for.

    The prince will have forever happy life, happy family and lovely life.

  24. Meadow says:

    I somehow doubt that William ever did much work at St Andrews, there has been a rumour around for years that ‘someone’ possibly Kate did his homework and essay writing for him and he was just waved through. I did put it down to just gossip but he has been shown to be so dumb on many occasions I really do believe it now.