At the end of Drew Barrymore’s interview on Chelsea Handler’s first Netflix show, they discussed how much they support and love other women. I didn’t mention this in Drew’s story because this is on Chelsea, not Drew. Chelsea ended with this gem “If you are a girl you should kind of like other girls, and if you don’t, your name is Angelina Jolie.” It’s like all her jokes are from 2005, but more than that, Angelina’s name was on the tip of her tongue like she was thinking of her this whole time. We know she hates Angelina and apparently that supersedes her ability to make a relevant joke. You know which name would have fit there? Becky.
To promote her show and her same tired shtick, Chelsea has a first person essay for Motto magazine, which is put out by Time. She waxes on about how she’s single and how single women are stigmatized by society. She does make some decent points, but it sounds more about her than about the topic. Here’s some of what she said:
On the practicality of being single
I understand the urge to procreate and the beauty of having children, but on the other hand, might perhaps this “be fruitful and multiply” experiment of 7.4 billion humans on the planet possibly be due for a serious mental health and environmental check-up.On single men
As is the tradition in what is still mostly a man’s world, single females still bear the disproportionate brunt of single-shaming and single-bewilderment-syndrome, while men tend to receive an understanding wink and a nod regarding their bachelor achievements, bedroom conquests and beer breakfasts.On embracing being single
It’s not just O.K. to be single for both men and women—it’s wonderful to be single, and society needs to embrace singlehood in all its splendiferous, solitary glory.On what to say to single women
Next time you see a single woman, instead of asking her where her boyfriend, husband or eunuch is, congratulate her on her accomplished sense of self and for reaching the solitary mountaintop by herself without a ring on her finger weighing her down like a male paperweight.
[From Motto.Time received via e-mail]
I have a hard time separating the message from the messenger, but she’s not wrong. Plus, once you get to a certain age, there’s something glorious about not having to deal with another person in your space. I get the impression that’s her default mode though. She dated the head of E! until her show was off the ground and after that she was on-off with Andre Balazs. The last we heard she was with Bobby Flay, but that was probably a fling. On her show with Drew she said she uses dating apps for random sex. (Her words.) At least she’s honest.
Photos are screenshots from Netflix
I honestly don’t know what it is about her but I have never found her funny and interesting. Watching her show was like watching the first round of American Idol- blushing by proxy.
I’m also not sure why we have to put one type of person down to praise the type that is their opposite. Single people do not have to bash married, people who are not parents do not have to bash people who are. Why is everything a competition? Chelsea Handler is the worst, and no one wants to see her nude shots anymore.
Exactly. Just live your life. Being single isn’t some great achievement that needs to be praised, just like being married isn’t some great achievement to be praised. I decided to share my life with my husband and have children because that’s what I wanted. My cousin has been with her boyfriend for years and I’ve never asked her when she’s going to get married, have children, whatever because it’s her choice and she seems happy so I don’t care. My uncle has been single for years, and I don’t think he needs to get married to be happy, nor do I think he’s doing something absolutely amazing by being single.
Your marital status doesn’t make you better or worse, just live your life as you wish (and not hurt anyone, of course) and you’re golden.
Because people are forever insecure about themselves and their choices. We have an instinctual need to be part of the group, whatever that may be, and an easy way to define said group is to say, “We do this thing and this thing is awesome and way better than the opposite thing, right guys?” And the others, also wishing to belong and feel understood, respond, “Totally!” It’s the ultimate validation.
It’s frightening to stand on your own and say, “hey, this is my life and it’s cool, that is your life and it’s also cool.” Many, many people cannot just enjoy the comfort of others like them without feeling the need to define the boundaries of the group. Without “them” there is no “us”, and without “us” how will you know if you’ve made the right choices? It’s a question many can’t answer.
@Wren: Agreed.
CH is obsessed with Angelina Jolie. I’m glad Angelina ignores her and doesn’t attack back, like Trump.
I completely agree with you, ladies – just do you and I’ll do the same, thank you very much.
I hate this especially: “[…] congratulate her on her accomplished sense of self and for reaching the solitary mountaintop by herself without a ring on her finger weighing her down like a male paperweight.”
I resent this sort of attack by a certain kind of single woman, the kind who secretly DOES want a relationship, but would never admit it. They feel the constant need to put down women in relationships , and put men down in general. Yet they scream “Women have to support each other!” every chance they get, when they mean, really, that they should be supported for their choices, or lack thereof. Emiright, Chelsea Handler Narcissist?
I don’t care for her either. Chelsea’s comment about Angelina Jolie hardly speaks to me of a woman who believes in supporting other women. She is just a woman taking a shot at another woman. Nothing supportive there. You have made it clear ad nauseum you dislike Jolie. To the point that I’m left wondering if your dislike comes from your insecurities. Like Jolie or not but she has grown into a woman who has found her place in life and surrounded herself with a loving family. Chelsea drinks to excess and appears to cling to relationships regardless of gender, be it a significant other or friendship. I think she has low self esteem and would trade her current lifestyle for the foundation Jolie has in a heartbeat.
I agree with what you said, @Cran. Chelsea Handler doesn’t like Angelina Jolie. We get it. At this point, stop recycling the same bit and move on to something new.
Exactly.
I’m not familiar with CH other than from this site, but on behalf of all introverts, I’d just like to ask WTF? Why is it required to have a squad to be woman empowering? Honestly, AJ’s life sounds exhausting to me, and with six kids plus a career, I would not judge her for being a hermit on her free time. Instead, she’s busy doing international human rights work. You don’t have to love AJ, but maybe just never discuss her at all?
This. Chelsea comes off as a very petty person- she’s had Jolie’s name in her mouth since at least 2009 or 2010- maybe even earlier- with nasty things to say. It’s true that the jelly H8rs card gets played a lot when famous people are being talked about, but in some cases- like Chelsea Handler’s- I think it may actually be true. Or it may be that, plus her idea of being fiercely loyal to Jennifer Anniston. I agree with her points about how singleness is looked at though.
Yeah, I don’t get her continuous hatred over Angelina Jolie. Let it go already. I feel like all her comments/jokes are so old and this has nothing to do with her age as much as the fact that she’s just not funny, IMO. I also don’t see single men treated any differently than single women. Most of my single guy friends have been asked at one point or another by relatives why they aren’t married yet. But these days, do people even care what your marital status is?
👍Totally agree! I actually watched the show, until that comment. It comes near the end. I just stopped the stream, googled how to remove a show from my Netflix History and moved on.
I thought this was going to be a different talk show, taking in serious topics and mixing un experts with celebrity. I enjoyed hearing from the first two guests; talking about education topics. Then Drew came on and it went down hill.
Oh, well…
Princess me X 1000 if we could all be like you. X
At her age, I would hope she likes other women, not girls. And she just needs to keep Angelina out of her mouth. It’s getting old and tired.
Extremely so, especially when you consider that AJ is probably like “Chelsea who?” I think there is a major component of jealousy mixed up in this.
Dislike her work but agree wholeheartedly that being single is wonderful and that more people should embrace it
Yes oh yes!
Seriously, there are of course some ‘lonely’ moments but overall its an underrated lifestyle. Have x10 less stress in your life, less bills, more freedom, and you have to build a community outside of your home. Meaning as a single person you can have to seek out relationships, which can lead to deep friendships and a community other than family. When I’ve been in serious relationships find myself more insulted versus having strong reliable friendships. I’ve been a lot more lonely in relationships versus being single.
I’m not sure about the one man one woman thing either. I do appreciate the opposite sex for, well, sex, but I also like caring for children with a man. However, I have never wanted to stick it out with that same man when things go seriously south, like mutual loathing. I am single right now, and miss sex and sleeping next to another human being. However, my friendships are rich, my career is soaring and my sense of self-education/self care is right on track. In my opinion, we need to all evolve past the “I’m owned by a man” ring thing and support each other in the together but On My Own thing.
Of course she mentioned Angelina Jolie in the first episode of her show, because she knows its a sure headline.
yup, just what I was thinking.
she needs to (sorry about this) LET IT GO!
Exactly. The obvious solution is to just not report it. Dont assist PR gimmicks
Yes. Handler has had her day. Zzzzzzzz
This precisely. She is so transparent and pathetic.
I honestly don’t even think this is about anyone else.
Handler obviously has issues with Jolie.
And it must just kill her that Angelina pays her dust.
@Jegede. I honestly wonder if AJ even knows who Chelsea is. I’m being serious here. I remember once AJ came up on “The View” and Whoopi Goldberg, who worked with her in “Girl, Interrupted,” said that Angie really doesn’t care about the criticism leveled at her. Also, does AJ have many friends of either persuasion? It’s not like she has a bunch of male friends and says that she just doesn’t get along with women, so I don’t see how she can be accused of not being a “girl’s girl” or whatever. Not everyone has a bunch of friends. At one point, she was close enough to Gwen Stefani to have a playdate. She said she was close to Marianne Pearl, and I believe that she’s close to Mindy from “Facts of Life.” Also, she’s had romantic relationships with women, so I doubt she hates women.
Yes, she’s tiresome. Anyway, she always sounds like she hates women, so there’s that.
We need a post about her messy interview with the cast of Civil War, like damn is Frank Grillo awful.
How does AJ fit into that comment? Never found CH funny, just harsh
On national TV and in the media… time and time again… this obnoxious, sorry excuse of a woman disses a woman to another woman…in hopes to either gain acceptance of her mischaracterization of Jolie or to find/create an audience that feels the same way. She is one of a handful of female celebrities stupid enough to present herself as reckless with her thoughts. She plans on being an ass until the day she dies.
She is also trying too hard to get attention. Jolie was not the topic of discussion nor was she relevant to the conversation. Their worlds do not collide on any level. How in the world can Jolie have an impact on Chandler? It’s not like they ever met and they CLEARLY do not travel in the same circles. Outside of them both being female, there are no other comparisons to make. Their lifestyles are so very, very … far apart.
I think Chelsea’s lifestyle is very sad… not because she is single and fabulous but because she is single and very spiteful. Her life, her choices. She needs to own her sh#t. Jolie has nothing to do with her.
Eff OFF. I do like other women, I just don’t like you. And that’s why women like her say things like this; because they can’t stand it when they aren’t liked but won’t hear of it when someone tries to call them on their nasty behavior (and her behavior is often repulsive). I’ll be proud to have the likes of Handler say that I don’t like women.
She also strikes me as someone who likes to get together with her own group of women to bash other women. Just because she has some female friends doesn’t make her a decent, supportive person. She bashes people, including women.
She’s as annoying as nails grating on a chalkboard and her comments are mostly inane. I handled myself as a single person very well for decades thank you, without having to blast it from the mountaintops. Now as a person in a relationship I feel I bring a whole lot of knowledge, patience and value to being part of a couple and am enjoying the heck out of it.
I can’t take my eyes off that glorious, majestic looking dog laying in the background.
That dog is a Shepherd Chow mix named Chunk and he is the star of the show.
What’s with the continued obsession of Angelina? Does she do this with the encouragement of her friend Jennifer? That marriage was never going to work because he wanted a pile of kids and was publicly vocal about that since before she even met him. She married him knowing that and then in interviews said she’d ‘maybe’ like one or two. They also barely saw each other, reportedly going months at a time without seeing each other. At that stage your marriage is dead already.
It’s been eleven years, B and A have six kids and are busy with their own lives. Jennifer and her friends need to move on, if she already has then tell them to.
CH has been ragging on jolie since her brother kissing and billy bob days which was before she knew aniston. Agree it is old and she should quit it but shouldn’t imply that aniston and her friends encourage her – it does not benefit aniston in any way.
Uh nope. Her bashing only got this bad once she & JA became BFF. Before that she even bashed Jen before being bought by her PR team!
She has bashed AJ on her show when Jen is the next guest, and then she comes out from backstage happy as a dog.
Not true at all. Handler never, ever ever attacked Jolie so obsessively and so hard and viciously until she became friends with Aniston, at which point she ceased snarking on Aniston and tripled her attacks on Jolie.
SEriously. When the man wants kids so badly that when asked about it, he finally breaks down into tears (as happened with Brad at least once that I remember), and you obviously do NOT want them… then you have to accept that the problem in your marriage was not Angelina Jolie. It was that you and your husband are fundamentally incompatible and never needed to be married to each other.
It’s beyond Jennifer Aniston IMO
Way beyond her. Handler is about Handler.
I agree…she’s got something against her besides the friendship with Aniston.
to add, when was the last time they were known to have hung out together? I didn’t think they were that close anymore. I’d like to think that Aniston came to her senses and realized that it wasn’t a very positive thing in her life.
@doofus
That’s what I don’t get–because Chelsea herself had an affair with a married man! She’s had plenty of people on her show who have had known affairs, etc…..so why not crack a joke on them, as well?
And, because I clearly have too much time on my hands 😉
http://www.ibtimes.com.au/best-friends-jennifer-aniston-chelsea-handler-support-tobey-maguires-wife-1484918
Nov. 2015, they went to a Tobey Maguire event together–I think both are friends w/Jennifer Meyer….I know Jennifer’s worn her basic jewelry before….
http://en.koreaportal.com/articles/12653/20160121/chelsea-handler-new-show.htm
From January 2016: “You know, she’s somebody who would love to hear about Jennifer Aniston’s house on the weekend. I could never, ever share my personal life with her again,” Handler added.
Basically I think they are friends, but aren’t seen as much because a) Jennifer knows how to avoid paps, b) Chelsea didn’t have a show for her to go on…….
But I think that she needs to cull this friendship, with a quickness. She JUST said that she wants the tabloid crap to be over–well tabs are desperate, and Chelsea’s giving them enough fuel for another month of those ridic covers……..just like last time/when she first started talking about Angelina.
Who you keep as a friend- a close friend- DOES say something about you.
Aniston and Handler are still close friends. There is nothing out there that suggests otherwise.
Handler is straight up poison. And I would wish her to have a friendship with my worst enemy. That would guarantee the enemy to permanently stay as a bottom feeder, never on top, never ahead, always getting a view from the back of someone’s head.
Being a woman who gets along better with men than with other women doesn’t make that woman a terrible person. Some women just get along better with men. And some men just get along better with women than with men. To each their own.
And honestly- I work with mainly men. So I’m in a position that if I want work friends, chances are they’ll be guys, just because 85% of the people I spend my working life with ARE.
I have my girl friends. Most of them aren’t coworkers., though a few are. A high percentage of the women I work with (and plenty of the men too) are the kind that go behind your back and make my job so much more complicated than it should be.
Just yesterday I had one assign out a design change to one of the guys. I was the designer on this project. I was there all day. I was not given a heads up. I suspect that her reasoning behind this was that I pushed back on a change that she had requested that made no sense. So she decided to get someone else to deal with. You can’t DO that in the workplace. This woman has at least 10 years on me, and she’s acting like a jr high kid.
The women I get along with at work, and in my personal life – I love them. They’re kick ass ladies. But I’m not going to pretend to be buddy buddy with people who just aren’t nice.
This is true. Most of my personal interests and hobbies are things that few other women seem to enjoy, but plenty of men do. Thus, most of my friends are men. That’s not to the exclusion of women, it’s just how the cards fell. I don’t believe I should have to fake interests that I really don’t have to get more female friends. If few women have those interests, that’s fine. I get that I’m kind of an outlier. But I can’t stand this “There’s something wrong with you if you don’t have female friends” stuff.
And Angelina has female friends – they are just highly educated, non-Hollywood people who aren’t selling products but engaging with the world. I think the people Angie gets along with are not the type who would give Chandler a second thought.
Agreed. And why is it only the obviously insecure women who claim that?
I’ve always gotten along better with guys, it’s been like that my whole life. In grade school my only friends were boys. As an adult I went into a male dominated field (though women are quickly catching up, which I think is great). It doesn’t mean I don’t have female friends now, I do and a couple very good ones. I don’t hate women, I just like men better. I enjoy how obvious and direct they tend to be, because I’ve always hated how society trains women. It sucks and it makes the people who buy into it suck too.
I need to know more people like you, because every woman I know who gets along better with men are pretty unpleasant or cold towards women. I also find it hard to get along with so many men, since sexism is so tangled in mankind’s history. I hope my opinion doesn’t sound like I’m judging you or making assumptions.
This. Once again, it’s A-OK to be catty and petty to women who don’t fit the profile of what someone else thinks a “good woman” should be. And they can all screw off with this crap.
I agree that some people probably get along or have more opportunities to befriend one gender more than the other. However, I do side-eye the hell out of people who claim they can’t get along with ANYBODY of one specific gender because holy projected issues Batman.
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I am 37, single and fine with it. I make over $200k a year and am completely loving my life…when I want a boyfriend, I have one. When I don’t want one, I do my thing. Being single is stigmatized but slowly becoming accepted. I used to like Chelsea but now she is a has-been. Bleh.
You shouldn’t even have to say this though–although I’m glad you did.
I’m 37 and before I met my BF, I was single for a long time and very, very happy. I had a consistent and fun dating life, great job, great apartment, great friends.
It was just a different kind of happiness than what I have now, you know?
But when I was single, the annoying comments I would get from coworkers and married friends about my love life drove me crazy.
That stupid stigma of single women over 30 being depressed and desperate to get married and have kids is so damn infuriating to me. The assumption being that a single, thirty-something woman doesn’t have a happy, fulfilling life. Please. There is more to life than husband and kids, y’all.
So now the annoying-ass comments I get are “so when are you guys gonna get married?” to which I promptly answer “NEVER”. That usually shuts them up.
I feel for you with never ending idiotic, noisy and embarrassing questions. Really, people are too much at times. I have been unhappily married, happily single and happily married. The worst, by far was unhappily married. after my divorce, I was single for five years and it was the time in my life when I really grew into an independent adult with a life of my own. I wouldn’t trade that time or the confidence it gave me for anything.
Thank you for that, GNAT. Honestly, my fear of being unhappily married is one of the reasons why I was single for so damn long.
My time as a chronic dater really taught me that there are so many different ways of experiencing other people. It taught me that love is a spectrum and that every relationship is a worthwhile one, no matter how brief or how casual. Those dating experiences taught me so much about myself and I wouldn’t trade them for anything. All of it led me to where I am now–in a happy, secure relationship with a REALLY, really good man.
But I can honestly say that if I had never met my BF, I’d still be living a happy, fulfilling life as a single 37-year-old.
Screw marriage and children, I want to grow old with the baby cats from the Margot Robbie thread! 😻😻😻
CB, sure wish you would state Chelsea’s ‘age’ every time you write her name. If she is 30something, I’m prepubescent.
I’m in my early 40s, and recently divorced with children. I don’t want to date, and reactions I get are more of the ‘you go, girl with your bad self’ than ‘don’t you need someone to validate your existence.’ It may be just my experience, but the societal pressure is probably different for someone who has already gone down that road.
Unfortunately, not wanting a relationship or giving any effs about what others think about that is like some insane pheromone.
Work with a lot of middle age women and most of them are divorced or have been divorced. They tell me all the time they wish they hadn’t got married, ever. It feels validating in an evil way because years earlier some of these same women were trying to set me up and push marriage lol.
I’m together with my boyfriend for more than 7 years and I still hear every couple of times in a year “when are you guys getting married?”, “when do you get a child”…pff..some people tend to get stuck on something that is different from the way they live their life. IMO these kind of people are trying to convince themselves they did the right choices…Every lifestyle has its positive and negative points, important is that you make the most out of it. I also know a lot of people who settled down with someone they didn’t really love because they were afraid of being alone….what is really sad. Good for you to do your own thing!
“IMO these kind of people are trying to convince themselves they did the right choices…”
BINGO. Some people are threatened by lifestyle choices that are different from theirs. It makes them insecure to think that not everyone wants what they want.
yeah, that was well stated. SO MANY of my friends did the college => marriage => kids…
and wound up divorced before they were 30. they did the marriage/kids thing because it was “the next thing” that you’re “supposed” to do after college.
This woman is trash. She’s obsessed with angelina. Always spiteful & saying she’s not a girl’s girl. She should do her reserch because angelina has her best friends Holly goline, eunich huthart,chloe Dalton, armenca helic ,marine pearl & Jillian armenante all who she sees or speaks to regularly. All are accomplished smart working mothers not like handler’s group which are a bunch of middle aged mean girls. Not to mention she has built 3 girls schools & fights 4 woman’s rights. As for homewrecker? Handler was with a married man, Aniston was with a taken man, so was paltrow and many others part of her bitch squad.
I love Chelsea. I know she can be abrasive at times but I find her type of humor very funny. Her books had me in stitches. As far as the Angelina comment goes, it did seem very out of place. It was a cheap shot. Being a fan of her’s though, I get why she did it. She is very loyal to Jennifer and she will always hold a grudge towards Angelina. Would I behave like Chelsea? No way. Chelsea is Chelsea so she gets a pass from me on this one. Plus, it was the first show of her new series so she needed to make a little controversy.
Agreed
When you lack quality or substance you go for controversy.I get it
I get that you like her, and I’m not attacking you because I cut people I like some slack as well, but really, this goes beyond “loyalty.” Jennifer Aniston has moved on and remarried. It only makes her look petty and foolish for Chelsea to continue to take these cheap shots at AJ. And to do it for controversy or ratings while spouting off about sisterhood is silly. I think Chelsea has potential, but she just shoots herself in the foot with this kind of juvenile behavior.
There’s a difference between being loyal to your friends, and being an ass.
Being loyal could consist of not wanting to have AJ as a guest, or not discussing her around the friend.
Being an ass involves making cheap shots out of left field. When someone is consistently rude, I don’t think they deserve a pass because it’s ‘who they are’. There’s no NEED to be that hateful and rude – to the point where Chelsea had previously insulted one of AJ’s CHILDREN.
She can be funny without being an ass for no reason. That’s all I’m saying. And if she can’t… well, maybe she should re-evaluate her career.
And if you’re in one breathe talking about empowering and supporting women – and the next putting down another woman who has done nothing to her – I’d say she’s not very genuine.
I didn’t agree with her insulting Angelina’s children at all. I think children should always be off limits no matter how much you dislike a person. I do agree with you on that 100%.
Chelsea is a total ass and has never denied it. She’s done very well with her career being herself so why change now? Like I said, I would never behave like her but I can still be a fan of hers w/o agreeing with every single joke she makes.
One woman can empower women as a whole but still not care for a woman that has done wrong to someone they love. But still, I would never publicly call them out for no reason like Chelsea did on the premiere of her show.
How can she “hold a grudge” about a situation that happened before she became friends with someone.
I take heart that Angie does give a shit that Handler doesn’t like her. I will also celebrate Angie making the lives of girls better by building schools and providing assistance when they need..
That is the best girls girl.. or should I say A Woman supporting future women
If I was to say anyone was not a “girl’s girl”, I would honestly say it was Chelsea. I read her book, Are You There Vodka/whichever book was written before she became friends w/Jennifer……and it takes place (apparently) when Mr. and Mrs. Smith came out, because there’s a section in there where her sister wanted to go see the movie, and Chelsea said she wouldn’t go see it, because Angelina was a homewrecker and she’d never support a homewrecker.
Now, first off….this is the same woman who got a DUI and high fived Jason Priestley over it (and I don’t care if it was a joke, that’s disgusting)….second, she puts alllll the blame of an (alleged) affair on ANGELINA….and not the person who was married i.e. Brad. Third……she seems to have a completely different set of morals–and these ARE morals, because she’s gone on various talk shows and had interviews where she’s basically said she hates Angelina and that Angelina isn’t a girl’s girl, because Angelina had an affair with a married man–because a) she had an affair with the married President of E! network and then dumped him after he renewed her contract (thank you, Joan Rivers!), and b) she has no problems with Jennifer’s affair with Justin, otherwise she’d STFU…..
Lastly….I’ll say this until I am blue in the face (and I’m being facetious with this next bit)…if Jennifer truly hated what Chelsea was saying (and is continuing to say, apparently), then she would not have become besties with Chelsea. No, you don’t control what your friends do or say, but you do control who you are seen with. There is absolutely no reason that Jennifer was so hard pressed to keep a close friendship with someone who talks like this–especially when it was last year that she said she wants all of the tabloid bs to die down. Well…..her good friend over here is talking shit about a woman who’s never said “Boo” to her. And the last time Chelsea did this, tabloids had a field day.
I really don’t get how Chelsea/Jennifer fans keep justify her behavior as being a loyal, good friend. The thing is they only became friends 5 or 6 years ago, several years after the divorce. Why is there so much angry about a person Chelsea never met about a situation she was never involved with? Jennifer’s long time friends like Courtney Cox and Sheryl Crow don’t bash Angelina and they’ve known her years longer. A lot of people in Jennifer’s circle have cheated, including Jennifer and Chelsea. So this defending Jennifer’s honor is a stupid excuse. People also ignore or forget that Chelsea actually made more fun of Jennifer than Angelina before they became friends. That stopped and the “jokes” on Angelina became hateful and vulgar.
The reviews are bad anyway so 2018 it would be over. And her constant obssession about Jolie, doesn’t she has a lifer on her own ?
She’s just trying to stay relevant. Ignore her and hopefully she goes away. And she should get just as much crap as Kim K and every other person does with their nude selfies. And if she’s truly in her 30’s please tell me her skincare regimen so I never follow it. If you told me she was over 50 I’d believe it.
ETA: oh that’s right she has a show coming out so she’s trying to start controversy and get people talking about her. Seriously, we should ignore her. It would kill her if everyone did. Well after this post hee
It’s a shame she said that because she did make wonderful posts about being single. I’m no longer single but I married at 30 (now 42). I Received a couple of comments but nothing too bad for being single but I don’t understand why people even need to comment and care on how another person is living their life. Mind your own business. Same with reproduction! SMH
Oh my god, CH and Amy Schmer please go away. Your not funny, your not relatable and your gimmick is getting tired.
Just like KIm k, I don’t find your constant nudies empowering, I just find them as a cry for attention. How do you say stand up for women, then at the same time talk junk about another women?
BTW, I live a different life then she does, however no one gives a crap if I’m single or not. It’s because your somewhat famous and people who care about that will judge you. I doubt if anyone other then a magazine interviewer cares if your single..
So shut up and get out here with your bs. Nobody cares.
though i cared enough to write this post.
But does she say that her nude selfies are all about empowerment, feminism, and body positivity?
She does base them on that–trying to challenge IG/twitter’s double standards…..I saw one where she rode a horse shirtless, like Putin……..
Meh, I say go ahead–but I don’t think she’d be doing that if that wasn’t her brand of humor i.e. crude and completely obvious….. As in if people actually talked more about her comedy, than whatever fake feud she was engaged in at the moment, she wouldn’t be trying the censors. JMO.
“…..she should get just as much crap as Kim K and every other person does with their nude selfies.”
I say she and Kim K should get just as much crap for their nude pics as john legend, Justin Bieber, and Adam Levine got for theirs. 🙂
I don’t like Chelsea, but she makes an excellent point about being single. I’m 36, have been single for most of my life and am totally fine with it. I just live my life and do my thing. But it is amazing how much you are judged–especially if you are a woman over 30. We still live in a society that doesn’t know what to do with a woman who doesn’t have the title of “wife’ and “mom”.
YES. I wrote something above. She’s right about that.
separating message from messenger from messages is good here LOL Cause for one I think If AJ really didnt Like women ( a charge also lobbed at beysus cause she too doesnt have a gaggle of hens doing drinky nights about last night posts all the time) shouldn’t THAT be her prerogative, I mean she is for women in other ways even if she doesn’t feel the need for a bunch of gfs, which who is to say even??
As far as singlehood as a former single that indeed used the net in much the same way she does ( to Amazing Stories/results/sex) and former bearer of the OMG HOW CAN YOU BE SINGLE WHAT ABOUT BABIES ARENT YOU SCARED AT NIGHT OMG YOU ARE GONNA DRY UP!! (currently : “so when Are you guys gonna get married? WAIT YOU DONT WANT KIDS?? WHAT? YOU HARPY! YOUR BF IS A NICE GUY HE DESERV…) I fully agree with her, single women should be embraced, let be happy not shamed for doing what it is they want to do with their personhood and time, not everyone needs to be paired up or is sad or lonely being alone, I know I never was and I was single for over 7-8 years, if anything paired up is really not my ideal state and indeed has been a massive adjustment for my very independent/nomadic free wheeling/sexually open self
Re: Bey and AJ. I never understand that kind of criticism lobbed at them. They both clearly have female friends, but does it not count if they’re not always on camera with them? Or if they’re not as famous?
Well it’s also weird because Bey and AJ have expressed different POVs regarding this subject. Paraphrasing;
Bey: I don’t trust other women that don’t have girl friends.
AJ: I don’t have many girl friends. I just don’t get along with them and/or I get along with men better.
I think Bey just doesn’t put her friendships out there. But it sounds like she has girl friends for sure. She’s just not out with a gaggle of them. Have girl friends and a girl “squad” are totally different.
That is it!^^^ if they aren’t know, recognizable or going to the Paps hangouts to drink ( be seen) is not a friendship ergo not a Woman’s Woman
AJ definitely has at least some though. But she doesn’t seem to do the ‘Hollywood’ friendships thing, and keeps her actual personal life pretty close to the vest.
I never got that either. You only have friends based on the amount of time you’re spent in front of the cameras with them?
You’re still with your man, QQ?
But yes, I agree with every single word you say here.
It’s like that tired-ass assumption that you can’t trust a woman with mostly male friends.
I have mostly male friends because I relate to men more easily than women. I think a big part of that is because I was a tom boy growing up and always hanging out with my big brother (despite his objections lol) and HIS friends. As an adult, I only have a few close female friends.
I will say this though: my female friends are the ones whom I could never live without. I would drop every one of my guy friends before I’d drop one of my female friends.
I am Kitten but i have like a need for a lot of personal space even within the context of us being together and he is the opposite of that, is super tough to balance to be honest (because i have been alone by choice for so long!) also we are super different in how we operate mentally and emotionally so that is something that we discuss a lot, Like I love him and he adorable and everything one would want in a boyfriend in a TON of ways but I’m that crude *sshole independent operator that wasn’t planning on meeting the actual Disney styles prince? yet smart enough to know no one can afford to turn away that kind of love and companionship without trying?
I hate that assumption too, My mom always worked in a male dominated field and that happened to be the bulk of her very very good friends from Uni onwards eventually this included their spouses, for life but then she had her sisters and she always encouraged us to actually not be super friendship seekers ( you and your sister and brother already have best friends, don’t beg or put anyone else above them)
Took me coming to the US and like my mid twenties to meet the women I consider my tribe and I honestly don’t know how I Lived before them, like to have the sisterhood of women we talk about everything, all day every day, sex, men, recipes, news, tech, politics shows, stan for trash If I didn’t have them as nutty as they make me sometimes I would be Lost in my neuroses and stuff like that and I would miss having someone’s back like that the craziest thing is that a lot of those friendships started online ( here included) but we do trips etc and like I said, stand NAKED in front of one another, that sh!t is sustenance and I’m glad I didn’t miss out on it! … LOL yet one of my very very very best friends of over 15 years now is a dude so Honestly I see both ways this works.
*omg why i Typed so much*
Yeah I could tell by your pics on IG that your dude ADORES you.
Interesting to hear you talk about the dynamic between an independent person like yourself and your BF, who obviously wants to share everything with you. FWIW, my BF and I are both super-independent and it’s caused problems in our relationship in that when we get busy, it’s easy to forget to make time for each other which inevitably leads to emotional distance. It can become a pattern and it’s really bad for a relationship in that you need the shared time to build something and to create that closeness. So just to say: I think it’s actually helpful to have one person in the relationship who really pushes to spend time together.
Aw , he does honestly is a little incredible to find someone so disarming like that like in my age class without a ton of baggage? so sweet! God
Oh I super totally agree because it makes me take stock for a minute and really center back on us when we spend some good times together, and also makes me work on my emotional openness, in turn he says I’ve pushed him to do stuff he’d never even think of doing in his life cause I’m a brute and into daring to do something new even if I hate it a few minutes in and generally I’m always doing stuff i’m not qualified to do, like electrical work or tight clothes LOL
@QQ
Re: your mom–are you sure we’re not related?!?!?! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the “your brothers and sisters are going to be your absolute best friends for the rest of your lives and maybe one or two other people will be there for you, like your siblings–but don’t count on it.” And it is true–even when my siblings annoy the hell out of me, I do shit for them I’d never do for anyone else……
And I would say it took me until I was 18 to make friends (who happen to be female, but meh)–true friends who were actually interested in me. And by that I mean one, hahaha! And I remember one of the first things she said to me, about a year after we’d become besties, is that I was her only “friend” that called her when I wanted to talk, NOT when I wanted something from her i.e. money, her car, etc…. And now that I started writing, I have a few more writer friends, two that I’ve become REALLY close to, and it’s just frigging awesome.
So I’m glad I shrugged in middle school when everyone was freaking out that I ate lunch by myself (all the faster to get to the library!)!
Marriage doesn’t keep you from ‘drying’ up. Tell you married friends, who talk about drying up, their vaginas will dry up as well; marriage doesn’t prevent menopause.
There has to be something else to her Angelina obsession than just carrying water for her friend. It’s starting to come off as unhealthy.
@zayta
Jennifer doesn’t talk about Brad, AJ and JA fans need to let it go— practice what you preach.
Also, no one really knows what happened between them as it was a private relationship 😩 I find it so petty to blame JA for everything, sexist much….
Anyhoo, Chelsea needs to shut her mouth, AJ clearly had female friends—they’re just not celebrities in the entertainment industry, they’re women associated with her humanitarian efforts. Furthermore, even if she had not one woman to call friend, she has a beautiful family with a husband who loves her and humanitarian work that will keep her soul satiated.
She’s done okay, actually, she’s ahead of the game (as long as she doesn’t direct 😁). AJ was my first woman crush before Rosario took her place, Jolie has blossomed into a wonderful woman filled with conviction for her causes, she’s more than okay in my book…
Everyone knows what happened between them, JA gave a big-ass interview that told the whole story. She was clear about no cheating.
She is psychotically obsessed with Angelina Jolie and needs professional help.
Lol. Yep. It’s weird at this point.
And Angelina just continues to live her lovely life & ignore that trash.
I think Angelina has done more for girls & women than Chelsea ever will.
Having multiple schools built overseas for example (Kenya & Afghanistan for GIRLS).
She has supported female refugees for years, has three daughters who clearly adore her, has worked with multiple females within the industry, etc.
Exactly
Angelina doesn’t like girls so she built schools specifically for girls.
She doesn’t like girls so she has helped create anti sexual violence initiative.
She likes likes “girls” like Marianne Pearl,”girls” who aren’t petty like Chelsea.
This.
Also she just seems like a mean gir, with a mean girl squad bitching away…
Women like her is the reason Angelina seems to keep her circle small. Not that I know who Angelina counts as her friends. Poor Chelsea, so insignificant that she has to drag a woman’s name, who she does not know, through the mud. We should not give her the attention that she so desperately wants.
Queens, dignitaries, humanitarians, journalists, and legendary animal activists.
Those are the women Angelina counts as her friends… seriously. If anyone should solicit “squad envy”, it’s Angelina (the last person who would ever use that phrase).
I’ve never been a fan of AJ, but seriously Chelsea let it go. Everyone has that person they don’t like, so get over it, ignore them, they don’t exist. Woman bashing each other serves no purpose, but to prove their immaturity. What is she 12??
Mission Accomplished
People don’t pay attention to her nude selfies so get attention by name dropping Angelina.
Pathetic especially because Angelina probably doesn’t even know who she is.
I could be wrong, but I thought Chelsea and Ted Harbert started “dating” while he was still married?
LMAO, standing up for single women by using the degrading term “single FEMALES” that disrespectful players and some rapers who think we are nothing but disposable tissues use. And doing the Jolie dog whistle for insecure woman to watch your show. LOL.
Nothing like making a career of bashing another woman to show your feminist cred. I guess in a way it makes her equal to jerky men who love to target beautiful, successful women. Yep she is clueless and so freakin’ self centered. Shakes head.
How is “females” degrading? When speaking about multiple female humans, females is the correct term. In fact, I think it’s more correct than “women” and “girls” because both “women” and “girls” implies age. “Females” does not imply age and is more inclusive because of it.
I think it’s more of a US centric thing–at least in my experience. When someone, usually a guy, uses the word “females”, that means he/she is about to say something totally sexist/stereotypical/gross i.e. “these females only want a man with money”, etc.
I have never referred to a group of women or girls as a group of females.I can’t recall using the term female as a noun I only use it as an adjective.
“Females” doesn’t just apply to humans.I have a female cat that has been hanging around my house for the last few days.
Female is considered derogatory in that context because it’s a form of biological terminology typically used to define gonadal status in species that utilize sexual reproduction. The only place you really see it used extensively to refer to women is in the medical field where it’s purely clinical delineation. In other words, we usually use it to refer to NON-HUMAN species or as a generalized identifier, which makes it dehumanizing when used to refer to human women. It’s very telling that men who use the term rarely refer to themselves or other men as “males,” yeah?
Handler keeps rehashing this shit because it drives her nuts that Jolie has never once responded. Kind of like Sarah Palin with Obama. Bring up the name even when it has nothing to do with the subject at hand, all in hopes that one day their foe will acknowledge their existence.
If I’m being honest, it took me until my mid to late 20s to enjoy being in the company of other women. I think it’s also important that you have to find a group of women that you really click with. I just found it hard to identify with a lot of the women I had met… for about 2 decades. Haha! It’s not say that I didn’t have any girl friends, though.
I had a few female friends before my late 30’s but we weren’t super close. I didn’t get my close girlfriends until a couple of years ago and I am 41. I have a very different set of interests from most women, I work as a top level executive so downtime is rare and I had my first kid young so I didn’t relate to anyone with young kids as mine was almost a teenager. I still have times where I get a bit weird about the fact that I have close girlfriends and when that happens they are good about pulling me out and hanging with me. They understand that this is a new thing for me. That’s why they are my friends. We are a mix of ladies that range from 24 – 41 with a wide range of interests and while they may not all be in the same page, we all take the plunge trying one of someone’s thing. I have made new race fans, in turn, they have taught me how to actually cook (turns out I’m good at it, who knew??)
Most of us who don’t, or didn’t for a long time, have female friends are not home wreckers. We have been burnt badly by females for most of our lives and have no interest in hanging out with people that in the end will trash us or turn like a rabid animal. My largest group of friends are still the guys, I still spend a lot of time with them and I enjoy the carefree, open way they have.
I think it’s ironic that she’s talking about being supportive of other women while making an unkind remark about another woman to boost her ratings.
ESPECIALLY ironic when you consider all the other stories about Angelina Jolie this month revolved around her task force of three women, fighting to protect millions of other women…
Yes! Great point.
Yes handler did make fun of Jolie before Aniston but then is was harmless. After Aniston invited her to her 40th birthday party & they hung out it turned into constant vicious attacks that were personal so don’t tell me this has nothing to do with Aniston. She also signed to the same publicist as her & paltrow which is why they are always on her stupid show. It’s PR and personal.
She also made fun if Aniston too. And as you said that all stopped when she was invited to a party. Then they became BFFs..
I guess the difference is Angie doesn’t give a rat’s ass what Handle says about her and didn’t need to make nice for her to stop.
It’s almost like she hates Angelina more than Jen does. Or maybe she’s saying things out loud that Jen can’t say for image reasons? But Jen is supposed to be happy, living her best life, etc. with Justin so…
I don’t know, but it’s almost pathological with Chelsea. Enough. Six kids and more than a decade later, enough.
You’re right, Chelsea. It’s important for women to “like other girls”. Apparently it’s fine to pose for photos with Terry Richardson, but not enough to fight for the rights of female rape victims and refugees…
Girlfriend needs new material.
For real! No one’s talked yet about her new show so I will. I have read her books and used to watch Chelsea Lately on E! and liked it for the most part. Although I do find her surly and more than a bit rough around the edges. I was really looking forward to her new show, which she promised to be “so much smarter” than her previous show. NOPE. I watched 2 episodes and just don’t care if I ever see another one again. It was truly insipid and anything but “smart”. And I just don’t care for people who use their platform just to insult other people. Tacky.
I love how Chelsea says that she’s leaving E! because she’s tired of interviewing celebrities and all their drama, but the first thing she does on her new show is a) interview a celebrity (and not for her movie either–for her DIVORCE!) and b) try and bring up an old “feud” for no reason other than to get noticed……….quantity over quality or some shit.
It takes more than one person to have a feud.. Angie has never acknowledged Handler. So the only one feuding is Handler. And the thing is WHY? If Angie doesn’t have a lot of female friends so what. Have you ever seen a quote or comment from Angie saying anything negative about another woman. Has she ever talked about another woman in a negative way. NO never.
Handle can’t say the same. If I check credential. Angie is very much a girls girl..
Lol. I only came in this thread for the epic meltdown.
And ftr, I don’t care for Jolie, Anniston or Handler.
Is it wrong that I initially LOL’d in shock when I saw this headline? Chelsea is the WORST but it amuses me that she is doubling down on the Angelina trash talking. She is sooo trying to use it to promote her show. SMH. And she’s succeeding judging by this article. She’s such a troll.
What is that old expression? Don’t feed the trolls? It applies here y’all
OMG! Is Chelsea STILL banging on about Angelina? That’s not going to improve her skills as a comedian, which are negligible and her constant flashing of her bare boobs isn’t helping her either. Really wish Handler would shut up and go away.
Ugh, poor Drew. Are Chelsea and her friends? Drew’s too good for her.
Handler herself gives a lot of reason why you shouldn’t like every tart that gets a tv show.
Same for everybody Kardashian.
please, tell me that drew barrymore was incredibly embarrassed by that 2005 joke? CH is the worst.
that said, i agree with her. being single is just as good a choice as being in a relationship, and should be treated as such.
I used to give Chelsea a pass because she’s a comedian, it’s her job, but her ragging on Angelina at this point is anything but female supportive or empowering. It’s just very old trash talk at this point, and as others have said while Angelina works to improve the lives of women in third world countries, Chelsea has appointed herself a “woman’s woman” while also trying to bring down another woman, for YEARS now, it doesn’t fly.
I do think some women are more natural at friendships than others, but to get all b*tchy sorority sister about how awesome you are for having female friends is the opposite of what you say you are about. One of my best friends is not a “girls’ girl” at ALL, she was only ever friends with guys when I met her in college, and when she and I first became friends it was kind of an adjustment for me, because she didn’t have those social skills that make some women bond quickly, but she ended up being one of my truest lifelong friends. So I get annoyed when people try to put women in boxes, yes some of us are more natural at being friends with other women, some of us have to work harder at it, it doesn’t make us any less of a woman for being ourselves.
There are social skills for helping bond quickly?? *makes notes*
I joke, but wanted to say thank you for also making adjustments for someone who was different from the social norm and accepting her. I imagine that it wasn’t easy but those friendships can be strong.
I don’t really give a flying f–k what any of these vapid one-percenters have to say and I really do not care for Chelsea Handler, but this bears repeating:
“might perhaps this ‘be fruitful and multiply’ experiment of 7.4 billion humans on the planet possibly be due for a serious mental health and environmental check-up”
Even a broken clock is right twice a day, right?
OK all that about being single but for you, you will be single most of your life b/c it obviously not easy to deal with you i take it.lol
Trying to ignore about your comment when I read it the other day… But aj is doing more to girls schools and women etc in her humanterial work for women…you just a little highschoolish as usual and needed attention for your show I take It too.
I can’t imagine living with such hatred/obsession of another person that it’s a part of my daily life. She needs to let “it” go, whatever “it” is. The gossip lover in me would like to know exactly what it is that Angelina did to Chelsea, or more likely what Chelsea “thinks” Angelina did to her, to make her dislike her so much. It can’t still be about Jennifer, even Jennifer has moved on from that.
If Angelina had “done something” to Chelsea,Chelsea would have mentioned it on her show or in interviews, especially interviews with Howard Stern.She definitely would have said Angelina did this or Angelina did that to me.
Jealousy. It may have started out as a way to get close to Jennifer Aniston, but this kind of non-stop obsession is totally an emotional extreme. There are only a few types of emotions that can sustain this kind of anger for so long and jealousy is the likely candidate.
She is such a Bi#ch…
Yeah, she’s not wrong about the being-single stuff. But PLEASE. Chelsea Handler is trying to mean-girl Angelina Jolie?
As in, Angelina the great humanitarian, great mom, and great actress?
…versus Chelsea the vodka-gargler, racist-joke-maker, and boinker-of-married-men-for-jobs, whose main political passion is championing the right to get her tits out on Instagram?
I like Chelsea’s attitude of women supporting women and having female friends. Her calling out Angelina Jolie again just makes her look thirsty for a headline though. It really is so 2005.
See, I don’t really think she supports women. She supports her own version of the “right kind of women.” It is not like she has a thing against cheaters, because her BFF for whom she continues to attack Jolie for also took a man from another woman. So this is not some big moral high ground she is on. She supports her friends (regardless of their moral failures) and calls that supporting women in general. Not the same thing, but in her twisted mind, who cares.
I fail to see what purpose she serves in the grand scheme of things. No interest here.
Way to get people to talk about you for days on end, Chelsea! Via someone else’s name, who never invites you to her parties at which there are other girls, of course.
I was always surprised that her and 50 Cent were an item, but now, learning how awful of a person HE is, it all makes sense. They were two peas in a pod.
She needs a kick to the neck.
I just love how Angelina continues to ignore her nonsense. She’s a bitter hag. Her new show has terrible ratings and it won’t last long.
Who cut Handler’s hair? It looks like she did it herself with kitchen scissors, while her hair was in a pony tail.
She tries to cover her mean girl behavior with comedy but it rarely works to me. Her Angelina issue is pathological and desperate. As far as being single I think it depends on what a woman wants for her life. I loved being single because my life was full with my career, hobbies, friends(male and female) and loving close family. I would have been ok if I never married but I did. For the most part it was wonderful until it wasn’t. I don’t yearn to marry after my divorce. If I met a great man, maybe, but I’m cool with casual companionship and no more children.
It does make me laugh when people assure me with pity in their eyes that I will surely marry again. I have to make sure they realize I’m fine.
This crappy woman again! And dragging Angelina Jolie’s name into her interviews shows me how desperate, lonely, low self esteem, and hateful she is. I hope someone shits on her head everyday so she can grow smaller and smaller and hopefully disappear into a black hole.
Oh screw her. I love other woman and I love Jolie. I think a better way of saying it is if you have made no contribution to humanity and your only success in life is making jokes at the expense of others, then your name is Chelsea Handler and your life is pretty pathetic.
She likes other women, she is girls girl. And yet she disses Angelina every time. Ok already we get you dont like her, move on.
I never talk about this, but for this, I’m going to make an exception. I met Angelina right after she finished filming Girl Interrupted. It was on a social setting, and we instantly clicked. We were wearing the same shoes, so it was something to talk about. Angelina is an absolute sweetheart. She is kind, and she is totally open, and very friendly. There is not a snooty bone in her body. This narrative that Chelsea Handler keeps propagating is complete B.S. I’ve met plenty of celebrities in social settings, and I’ve maintained some close friendships with several. Angelina is one of the nicest people I’ve ever met. And yes, I’m a woman!
Chelsea is abrasive and unfunny. She needs to stop it with the AJ attacks. She’s best buddies with Jennifer Aniston; that’s why, right? Between AJ and JA, I’d rather be buddies with AJ because JA, nice as she is, would bore me to death. AJ seems more fun and interesting, but it’s true because she said herself she doesn’t have many friends. I think she’s just a bit intense to be a regular friend maybe?
I LOVED it!
Chelsea is brilliant. If you don’t like her, ignore her.
Keep on rocking in the free world, Chica!
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