Mariah Carey has been known for years for one of the most iconic moments of gossip-shade in the recent history of celebrity beefs. Mariah has always (ALWAYS) hated Jennifer Lopez with a fiery passion. I forget the complete basis of the hatred, but it involved J.Lo’s singing career and Mariah’s ex-husband Tommy Mottola. Years ago, when asked point-blank about Jennifer Lopez, Mariah took a dramatic pause and said flatly, “I don’t know her.” And nothing more. So much shade in four little words.
Well, Mariah appeared on Watch What Happens Live last night and of course Andy Cohen had to press Mariah on her long-standing hatred of J.Lo AND Nicki Minaj. The reaction was predictably… Peak Mariah. Also, Mariah made Andy wait… for a live show! And she made him switch seats so that the camera would get her good side.
“Do you know each other?” asked Cohen, of Carey and Lopez, after the Latino stunner told Wendy Williams last week that they have, in fact, met “many times.”
“No!” replied Carey. “She says you know her,” pushed Cohen.
“You know what, I’m very forgetful,” Carey answered. “Apparently I’m forgetful, because I don’t remember the fact that it was just like, ‘Hi, I’m so-and-so,’ and then move on.”
“Does she seem cool?” pressed Cohen. Cue one of Carey’s big pauses! “I don’t know her, what am I supposed to say?” she responded, eventually.
Next in the firing line was Nicki Minaj, with whom Carey famously feuded with during her time on American Idol.
“Can you say three nice things about Nicki Minaj?” asked Cohen during a game of ‘Plead the Fifth.’
“Can you?” replied Carey. After another long pause, she skirted the issue. “You know, I always thought it was more important with that situation to not plead the fifth, but to just stay above the fray,” she explained. “Because you don’t want to be déclassé. You just want to move it along.”
But while Lopez and Minaj were clearly not on Carey’s BFF list, Britney Spears and Beyoncé faired a lot better. “We were at the MTV awards years ago and we had a whole conversation,” Carey said of Spears. “She was just a really nice girl.” And Beyoncé? “I love Beyoncé, I would love to do a collaboration with her,” she added.
I’m including the videos below. I’m still reading shade about Jennifer Lopez, although Mariah does do some work to try to come across as less bitchy than before, and kudos to Andy Cohen for really pressing her on it. But yeah, Mariah hates J.Lo. But she really, really dislikes Nicki Minaj.
Here’s the J.Lo part.
Here’s Mariah’s shade on Nicki Minaj, plus some stuff about Beyonce and Jay-Z.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
I wonder if Mariah and Karl Lagerfeld get along…
That should be an SNL skit! Mariah & Karl would either LOVE each other or get in the biggest, slapping hands, pulling hair, kicking but not actually hitting the person fight I’ve ever wanted to see!
But Choupette would need to be on also.
Mariah carey, Karl Lagerfeld and his cat Choupette. It would be great as a cartoon…
I loved how Jlo laughed it off. She came across as waaaay more genuine and cool. Mariah screams insecurity when trying to carry off she doesn’t “know” her. It reminds me of drag queen beefs….so 1980’s…
… are you implying ’80s drag queen beefs are a bad thing? HOW DARE YOU!
I’d never as one of my bestie is a drag queen ” Elaine Lancaster of the Miami Lancasters” but I do get tired of their incessant sniping! Some classic shade has been born of these however…..guuuurl I’ve been thru your purse! A classic!
That’s exactly what it is: insecurity.
Before J. Lo got her contract, she was a desperate actress trying to break into music. So she had an affair with Tommy Motola, got her contract and became a Sony priority. On the 6 was put out in June ’99, took probably a year to produce, so let’s say she started on it mid ’98. That means that she had her eye on Tommy for at least a year, probably two years before her contract with Sony. Mariah divorced him in 97. She had her meltdown in what, 2000? I know for a fact about JLo-Tommy affair. Maybe there was overlap between the two relationships. Between this situation, her ego, the Glitter bomb, getting that 100 mill Columbia contract and the pressure resulting from it, her meltdown was inevitable.
The beef between Mariah and JLO is legitimate. At the time Mariah was making Glitter, Tommy Mottola really was trying to ruin her career and JLO was his singer of the moment. Considering that JLO and Ja Rule’s “I’m Real” was a direct rip off of a song he and Mariah were doing (just rushed out first) AND used the sample she was supposed to use for Loverboy, you can see why Mariah’s bitter.
So she should direct her anger at Tommy Motalla as well as Irv GottI the producer of the song as well as Ja Rule, who she still collaborated with after the sample switch
At this point shes just showing how childish and bitter she is
Um, are you familiar with Mariah Carey?
Sure Murder Inc and Tony Motolla bear some responsibility but so does Jlo. I dont think its unreasonable to dislike the person who knowingly banded together with a vindictive ex to sabotage your work life.
Also Mariah keeps getting asked about Jlo rather than Irv and Ja Rule so of course it looks like a disproportionate response. In the WWHL interview she talked about her love for Jay Z. That actually stemmed from the fact that Jay Z helped her put out the RnB/rap collaboration she had wanted to do before Tonys bs but advised her about who else to work with and helped make those connections. I think that was probably among the toughest periods of her life.
This whole thing is coming up now cuz JLO wants to be tight with Mariah. No one was making this an issue when Mariah was with Nick because you know. Now that Mariah is with the billionaire who is co-owner of a MAJOR production company… JLOs people are making it all about this.
I agree with Mariah. I am not going to pretend to know you or accept an invitation now from you cuz you want something. Moving on…
@Denisemich …
LOL! Well said! And I agree. 🙂
JLO is also at something of a career crossroads. Shades of Blue is actually supposed to be good, but Idol is done, her movies haven’t hit in years, and her music hasn’t gotten radio play in years (as she’s essentially been deemed ‘too old’ by the powers that make the radio play lists – this is what happens when 2 companies own the radio airwaves). Not a real shock that she’s trying to soften her image and maybe make some friends in the industry, but JLO’s going to have an uphill battle because she was pretty cutthroat on her way up the ladder.
Not to mention, Mottola was straight up gaslighting Mariah, and JLO wasn’t a naive ingenue at the time. Glitter’s failure and her subsequent breakdown was such a huge disaster for Mariah, I don’t blame her for holding a grudge.
I think if Mariah wasn’t a big ball of olden days diva wrapped (some might say stuffed) into a modern day package I’d enjoy her more.
Usually I love a good shade and read, but with her it just feels like…you’re a singer okay. You didn’t invent anything, you didn’t fly to the moon. You sing. You don’t have to like anyone but this air of you being too good for everyone and you don’t have to acknowledge other people’s existence all while you need a team of people to keep your shoes on your feet and keep you from toppling over in the street isn’t cute.
THIS! like come on lady, go drink your prosecco and rep dip set in the privacy of your butterfly room, don’t be doing all of this, your catalog and those receipts alone should give you all the security to say, nice girls and stop right there
QQ, Get it right!!! It’s not Prosecco, it’s Splash! 🙂
But why should she? Read the threads above and see why Mariah doesn’t like JLO. ‘Course I’m bias though. Jennifer Lopez is one of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen but she’s a huge diva and no matter how sweet n lite she’s trying to come off now, she’s been ruthless in the past when it comes to her hustle to the top. Of the two divas, I’m team Mimi for life.
Yes! I would like her- I can’t figure out why I don’t but all this messiness makes me have 2nd hand embarrassment for her. I feel like slapping her across the face (very lightly, maybe with a white glove) and saying “get your shit together, ma’am!”
Exactly.
And if I am honest, i would be the one to pretend I don’t know her if I met her while wearing thick nude pantyhose with open toe shoes.
Seriously. That looks horrendous.
Between the two I would always pick JLo. She seems much more fun and spontaneous.
I like JLo, but she is not a Saint. She knows her role in this feud and plays as if she doesn’t and Mariah can’t fake it like JLo. Mariah has nothing nice to say about JLo, so she says nothing at all.
Let it go, Bitchriah.
…if you could see the bodyguards full do…its magnificent…I hope she’s paying him 100 grand pa minimum…help like that helps her to look glam…otherwise her n aretha might meet up real soon…
Who cares about the feud? I can’t get past the industrial support panty hose with open toed stiletto combination she’s rocking in the photo.
I used the be a big fan of Mariah’s (well more like her 90’s/early aughts voice- – I’m not really a person who Stans for anybody) But I wish she would just move on from the J-Lo shade. It’s petty at this point especially because Jennifer tends to be more gracious about it. Plus it was really Tommy who she needed to be mad at. He was the one trying to undermine her career. J-Lo was just being an opportunist and hustle her way up the ladder.
As for her beef w/ Nicki. She doesn’t like her and I appreciate her keeping it real rather than being fake about it. She handled those questions with a certain level of poise while still slinging shade. That is a seasoned Diva. Yes she makes me roll my eyes with some of her antics (being late and demanding to only be filmed on her good side), but she does it in an entertaining way.
Don’t jump all over me, but seriously, someone tell me what’s SO SHADY about this mess.
Is it that unfathomable that two women who work in the same industry aren’t friends? Do all women have to be friends? What IS THIS?
Would we have the same reaction if different people were involved? If men were involved?
You don’t have to be friends with everyone. Good on her for not actually saying something nasty, because if there is a legit feud here, in my opinion, girl took the high road.
I completely agree with you. I watched both videos and she seemed quite genuine and honest about it. Why lie and be like oh she’s so nice. She doesn’t KNOW her. I liked how she came across here. A lot.
And about Nicki well.. it’s no secret they hate each other (i had fun watching that season of AI), and I am completely fine with her shady answer. When I dislike someone and the person who asks me, knows it, i don’t pretend. I’ll be like “if i don’t have anything nice to say, i don’t say anything at all” (yet my face will tell the truth!!)
YAAAAASSSSS! Times a thousand.
PS: I love MC and JLo!!
Me too I love both of them and I like Nicki at times. In small doses lol.
And I loved Mariah’s answer about the Jay Z and Beyoncé drama. It could all be just really good storytelling hahah
When I dislike someone and the person who asks me, knows it, i don’t pretend. I’ll be like “if i don’t have anything nice to say, i don’t say anything at all” (yet my face will tell the truth!!)
I hear ya Mimz. Me as well. My face don’t lie, can’t lie.
I just love Mariah. She’s such a delusional and hilarious character. A pain to work with, I imagine. But as a mere consumer of her ridiculous Mariahisms… I enjoy her a lot.
Real question. ….does anyone else think she has no friends? I feel like she has employees. But not like, a girlfriend she can call and just talk to.
Of the two women Lopez is by far the least ridiculous. Neither of them has the best taste in fashion.
Come on!
JLo is a goddess…she can wear anything!
I LOVE her style.
But, yeah, Mariah’s style is so awful…will agree there.
Her boobs look painful in those clips. Like they are being ripped off her body.
I have come full circle with Mariah our pegasus princess. I used to really be irritated by her. If she wasn’t singing to some secret high pitched mermaid god in the seas and was using the interview words she irritated me. But now … now this is the only reason I adore her. Her newest music (anything newer that 10 years) does nothing for me, but her antics are fantastic. She is a show unto herself. She seems so clearly out of touch with her age and her trend and her behavior that she has become a caricature. Unlike other entertainers, I do not believe she has done it intentionally. She does not seem fully self-aware and if she was perhaps she would break and this is how she copes. Dunno, but I’m fascinated.
Elns, your assessment is on point. Mariah is clearly living in her own world. She is so out of touch it is sad.
She has legitimate reason to hate JLo. I also know she should direct her anger at Mottola but how do we know she doesn’t? JLo is the person she gets asked about and I love that she’s keeping it real. But maybe Mimi, it’s time to stop addressing it. You’re way more successful and you’re worth more than 2x Jlo’s net worth. Oh and you got a billionaire too while JLo is dating a very gay 28 y/o on her payroll. Even on your worst day, you can sing JLo under a table. You’re winning, it’s time to now stop.
Or maybe not. Keep throwing that shade, girl. In a world where everybody fakes it in Hollywood it’s good for a change
She didn’t get a billionaire. That “relationship” is an obvious farce.
Why do singers have the biggest egos? It’s not like they invented a vaccine. Nikki Minaj scares me so I find that a bit endearing that Mariah isn’t a fan. For once I’d like to see Maria with out seeing her tatas doesn’t this woman own a button down shirt?
And seriously? To have Andy move his seat? WTF is that about? You look so so so so vain to have him do that. Get the eff over yourself Ariana Grande! It’s so unsettling to see Andy in that seat. I don’t do change, I need Andy in his regular seat!
You kept it real! The comparison about boyfriends, amazing. Is JLo blind?
I take honest Mariah over fake Hollywood types. Mariah has nothing nice to say about JLo and she said nothing.
Sorry benchwarmer, my reply was aimed @ mme
I have a friend who used to work for Mariah and only has the nicest things to say about her…she says she’s very good to the people around her and is really funny. On talent alone, I’m team Mariah
Why is she required to know or like J. Lo? I’m not a fan of Mariah’s personality, but I don’t see the big deal in this.
I learned a lot from this post! Loving the 90s/early 2000s gossip!