Tom Cruise is basically a robot these days. While we’ve never really known how Cruise spends his down time, in the past three years or so, he’s barely had any downtime at all. He just works constantly, on back-to-back projects, because there are some producers and studios that believe that Tom can still sell a movie, that people will show up just because Cruise is the leading man. All of those projects mean that Tom is often filming overseas, away from New York for months and years at a time. New York is where Katie Holmes and Suri Cruise live. And the tabloids are obsessed with pointing out that Tom has not seen his daughter in a long, long time. According to In Touch Weekly, it’s been 1000 days (or thereabouts) since Tom has even seen Suri in person. Page Six’s sources say the same thing, and they also say that Tom doesn’t want to see Suri because she’s a “nonbeliever” according to the Church of Scientology.
Tom Cruise hasn’t seen his daughter Suri, 10, in nearly three years because the Church of Scientology forbids its members from associating with nonbelievers, sources say. Since his ex-wife Katie Holmes is not a Scientologist, and neither is Suri, Cruise has reportedly not seen his daughter since she was 7.
“If he wanted to see her, he could see her,” one source said. “Even people in prison have a right to see their children.”
Holmes spokeswoman Leslie Sloane had no comment, and Cruise’s publicists didn’t get back to me. Suri, who lives and goes to school in Manhattan, is said to be a smart, well-behaved girl.
“She’s thriving. She’s got lots of friends and a nice, normal life. This is his loss, his issue, his problem,” said my source. “He must be really brain-washed.”
In Touch first reported it’s been 1,000 days since Cruise saw his daughter, even though Cruise sued the magazine’s parent company, Bauer Publishing, in 2012 for reporting that Cruise had “abandoned” Suri. The $50 million defamation suit was settled the following year on undisclosed terms with each side paying its own legal fees. Tony Ortega, who writes about Scientology on his Web site, TheUndergroundBunker.com, told me Holmes qualifies as an SP, suppressive person, by the cult-like group, and Suri would be deemed a PTS, potential trouble source.
“But the thing about Scientology is, celebrities get to break all the rules,” says Ortega. “That’s why I find this so mysterious.”
I believe that if Tom wanted to spend time with Suri, Katie Holmes would allow that. I also believe that if Tom asked Katie to bring Suri to his location so that they could spend time together during Suri’s school breaks, Katie would probably do that too. Katie has never seemed malicious about custody or access to their daughter, and I really do think this is Cruise’s issue: he doesn’t want to see his daughter. Of course, I’m sure pro-Tom people will say that they talk on the phone a lot and maybe FaceTime. Sure. Maybe.
Meanwhile, did you hear that Tom sold his huge Beverly Hills mansion? His new homebase is going to be in Clearwater, Florida, home to the CoS headquarters. A source told People Magazine: “Tom has long planned to leave L.A. He doesn’t need to be there for work – he’s off doing movies all around the world. It’s not the center of his life anymore.” He also sold his Manhattan apartment back in 2013, and his Telluride ranch is on the market. He’s basically going to be living in a Scientology cave from now on, right?
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He’s been busy working? I feel like I haven’t seen his career in 3 years.
Also, the way Katie Holmes maneuvered that divorce… I’m still in awe. Every time I see her in a photo I just know she is clearly not one to be trifled with.
It’s always the quiet ones that aren’t to be messed with.
You’ve got that right!
Her father is a lawyer who has access to all kinds of experts that knew exactly how to ditch him for good..But what he is doing to this kid is horrible..she will feel unloved by a father figure and be looking for love in the wrong places..Katie needs to find a great guy..asap..
@weirswalker – one does not have to have a father figure in their lives. I’m sure she has many male influences in her life. Katie does not have to find a guy asap. Would you say the same about boys who don’t have a mother figure in their lives? Marrying simply to have a father or mother figure in a child’s life is not a reason to marry someonw.
Better to have no father-figure than a bad one. I speak from experience.
My father was there and messed me up for life, can’t even have a relationship because I’m only concerned at all times to identify whether or not any potential partner is like him in any way so I can dump said person before he harms me.
Sure loooved going to his (learned later that was the case) mistress’ wedding (who was also his secretary) and getting slapped because i wasn’t smiling…. and lots of token moments like this.
Physically and emotionally abusive people are a definite surplus to requirements, even if biologically your parent(s). You don’t need them or want them. That goes for women also, if they’re abusive, I was “fortunate” enough to have a good mum.
Im sorry your father was so cruel to you, Cookiejar. My dad was never abusive but very critical, and even though his absence gave me daddy issues, im glad he wasnt around that much because i think my issues would be even worse.
eh, he just keeps doing the same movie over and over – “Tom Cruise and his lifts save the world” in some form or another.
my suspicion of why he’s selling off his properties has to do with his finances. He’s not as bankable as he used to be, he’s giving one third of his money to the cult (I bet more, since the cult is struggling and needs his big $$$) and properties like those cost a LOT to run and maintain.
and as sad as it may be for Suri, she’s probably better off without him, being the nutbar that he is.
That’s my guess as well — finances are the key reason for selling. He worked at a steady pace for many years, yet supposedly loved that ranch, for example. He could charter a jet and be anywhere in hours.
I do question what the future will be for him as he gets older. Even the head guy was supposedly hidden away for years when he became older/ill.
Tom Cruise and his lifts! Perfect.
I thought that too – he’s unloading all that to free up some cash for some reason. It’s also quite possible that CO$ owns those properties in his name or something, I think they’re tied to every aspect of his life. They have to be hurting for cash, I can’t imagine they’re suckering in too many new members and have a lot of lawyers and online harassers to pay for.
TC also has/had a massive estate in England that he either recently sold, or currently has on the market.
Between Tom Cruise’s real estate fire sales and Jerry Seinfeld selling off his car collection (I suspect him of being a secret scientologist), methinks that David Miscavige is hitting them up for cash, big-time.
That’s interesting about Jerry Seinfeld; I actually have been suspecting Simon Pegg of being into $cie (some things he said in interviews, and the last movie that he co-wrote and produced for the Cornetto Trilogy… the ending was very much soaked in $cie theory), much to my disdain.
So does anyone have news on Pegg’s estate? Is he selling anything out of the blue? That would be a telling piece of the puzzle.
I have to agree with whoever said all those properties were probably CO$ owned. They’re selling everything off to pay for that monstrosity (and this is soooo hard to type without busting a gut) Superpower Building. It cost 145 MILLION!!!! They were so strapped for money while constructing it that it became an eyesore and the city started to fine them daily. One blogger said he walked by one day and they had some little old lady, who looked like she was 90 and starving, out in front pulling weeds!!
Something that has been floating around the gossip blogs for some time is that Suri is on the spectrum. And that her diagnosis prompted super stealth divorce.
CoS/ Tom’s beliefs toward spectrum disorders is to deny deny deny. Just think of John Travolta’s son Jett who allegedly had autism but they kept hidden his entire life. RIP Jett.
Wow. I hadn’t heard of that, but it’s incredibly heartbreaking.
If Suri is raised well and I think she is, she’ll be okay. I don’t think it’s so much the Scientology thing, but that Tom didn’t know what to do with her when he had her on his own. He did see her after the divorce and there were photos of them in a hotel pool. I think sadly enough, he didn’t enjoy being with his own child. He wanted to be off making movies, not entertaining a seven year old. He was restless and bored trying to entertain her on his own. So he decided to beat a hasty retreat and he hasn’t seen her since.
that’s nonsense. I haven’t heard that dumb rumor since she was born. People were speculating that there was something wrong with her because they hadn’t “shown her ” to the public for almost a year. There’s nothing wrong with her!!
I recall Jett Travolta having autism but he wasn’t hidden away for years. I remember seeing him in the tabloids more than a few times. The NE and Star Mag was always on John Travolta back then.
I bet Katie hates it when these types of stories come out, if only because now Tom might feel compelled to make a big showing about seeing Suri. If I were she, I would hate the threatened disruption to her schedule.
Katie comes from a relatively big family; I bet Suri has a number of good male role models in her uncles and her grandfather.
Wow. I always thought he would breakaway from the church as he got older not get more involved to the point of moving full time to Clearwater.
The man is in deep/ Sounds to me as though he’s preparing to anoint himself the second coming of LRH, since Suri so selfishly declined that honor.
–TheRealPinku
David Miscavige would never allow anyone to take his power. He would put Tom second-in-command.
Tom can be the “Queen” to Miscavige’s “King”; that way they can SHARE the throne!
There IS no Tom Cruise. Nobody home. He is an empty shell filled up with completely nonsensical ideas made up by a psychopath he worships (LRH), and he is ordered what to do by ANOTHER psychopath (Muscavige) who entertains himself by degrading people. Tom was never bright, but he has a Smart Face he puts on when he wants to look Deep. Then there will be a 100% disconnect to creepy laughter, and then he’ll put on his Listening Face for the next question. It’s ALL an act – Nicole even said something like “where does the acting end and life begin?”
NAILED IT!
ITA.
You’ve just described an NPDer.
If he wanted to break away now, could he? He’s soo deep in the cult, and they seem to he tied to every aspect of his life. If he broke away his life would be over.
They would ruin him spectacularly. What I would love to know – is Tom Cruise playing along because he’s 100% indoctrinated or because he’s afraid?
Wow. He’s going full-on crackers, isn’t he? Hunkering down in the hive, where he can be waited on and exalted by the worker bees. What a maroon.
–TheRealPinky
@Pinky, I just love this, your summation of the mini man as a maroon. It had me spitting my coffee with glee. I suspect it will win the interwebz today.
How do people do this? How do you just stop seeing your child? How?
This.
My kids are little (3 and 1), and I can’t imagine going a week without seeing them, let alone 3 years. This is just beyond comprehension.
I’m more and more in awe of Katie Holmes every time I read about Tom. She literally saved her daughter and herself. Just amazing.
I have hardly any memories of my father when he was living with us. He traveled extensively for his job, including living elsewhere for long periods. This isn’t that uncommon. A lot of men especially can easily slip into the occasional visitor mode even when not divorced, a certain fraction of them see children as a necessary but annoying side effect of having sex with the mother. They aren’t really interested in raising the little rugrats, and assume the mom can do the job just fine on her own. They’re more like distant uncles at best, not really part of the kids’ everyday life. I can testify that the kids themselves aren’t pining away for the guy… It just becomes normal. I didn’t routinely think about him. He just wasn’t a big part of my life. I found remarks by other kids and their obnoxious parents about his absence disturbing, but didn’t really have an innate burning desire to have my father around 24/7.
Children adjust to all sorts of variations on parental contact. Look at the kids sent off to boarding school at an early age – some are dumped but many actually want to go, that’s where their friends are. Boarding school kids have much less contact with their parents than would be acceptable for you, but they still can thrive and grow up with family bonds intact.
A friend in grad school hadn’t been home to Nigeria for several years while working on his advanced degrees in Canada and the USA. He had a five year old back home. He wanted more kids. His wife came over alone to stay with him for a while, got pregnant, and went back with the six month old baby, left him with the grandparents, and came back to repeat the process except my friend received his Ph.D. by the time she would have made the trip back to Nigeria with baby in tow. He said it was common for the grandparents to raise the children so the young women could do other things (since prime time for baby making and advanced education/career building coincide). He and his wife expected to raise their own grandchildren the same way. It was an interesting shift of parental responsibilities to the older generation. He survived it, his kids would survive it, and so would his grandchildren.
Yes- but it fractures the parent/child bond and relationship. I am familiar with this system and the way it works in Nigeria, I had a family member offer to take my own child from me when she was 3, so I could work. My response was, what’s the point of working if I don’t have my child.
The kids in these situations grow up with many emotional issues as adults (even if they appear to be functioning). And this process is dying. It still happens, but not as frequently as it used to. So I would not hold the situation of your friend up as an advantage. And I think he will find that his own kids may not want to be separated from their kids like that.
just because children “survive” the types of situations you mention, doesn’t mean it’s healthy or that they’re happy. Boys need their fathers. Daughters need their fathers. They may get used to being w/out them, but that’s a coping mechanism to deal with an unpleasant dynamic.
I never knew my biological father. I didn’t miss him as a person because I didn’t know him as a person, but I definitely felt inferior to those who had both their parents and a close relationship with them. It affected me and made me feel “lesser”. I was used to feeling lesser and used to wishing he was in my life but not there, so I wasn’t a walking mess, but no doubt, I would have viewed myself differently if he had made me a priority.
That’s my question. How can he basically cut Suri off like she never existed? I think he drinks the CoS kook-aid and feels that his desertion of Suri is acceptable. He is a monster. For years I have boy-coted his movies and it won’t stop now. He does the same thing over and over, just a different title while he wears his lifts.
Dying over “CO$ kook-aide”.
I still think Suri looks like Tommy Davis, who left Scientology. They look more alike than Tom Cruise and Suri and Suri and Katie Holmes. They have the same face. I think that’s why it’s really easy for Cruise not to care.
I know she’s better off, but I still feel sad for her. How do you explain to a 10 year old that Daddy doesn’t want to be a part of her life? He is despicable. He doesn’t know what love is. His children will never know unconditional love from him, because if they aren’t members of his cult he won’t waste his time on them. I don’t have words to express my disgust. When I think of my parents and all the mothers on here who would cut out their hearts for their children, it just boggles my mind that he would be so cruel.
Well said, GNAT. As a parent, I wonder what sort of emotional “gap” there must be in his make-up, that he could _willingly_ spend time away from his own flesh and blood. It would kill me. This is clear proof, if any more is needed, of the vise-like grip the CoS must have over its “members.” Let’s hope that Katie is strong enough to provide double the love and reassurance to Suri in the total absence of the other partner! Seems as if she is.
Part of me thinks he needs to be “rescued” and deprogrammed because his behavior just seems so unnatural. The other part is angry and disgusted with a grown man being so heartless and stupid. I don’t know which side wins.
GoodNames, I know I’m probably in the minority but I think he’s in so deep that he has no idea anymore what he’s doing and really does function as sort of a robot. Part of me still feels for him, despite how despicable his cult is, because I think he was lost and lonely in Hollywood when he was starting out and they preyed on him. I think his life would be completely different now had he not been brainwashed the way he clearly has been.
Hopefully Katie has managed Suri’s concerns, I’m guessing she has lots of support.
I agree I think he’s more brainwashed than he is cold and cruel. He doesn’t see what he’s doing as cruel. He sees it as his duty. His responsibilities to the cult supercede his responsibilities to his family. That is definitely cult methodology. I don’t feel sorry for him because he’s too far gone. He’s not sad. He’s just living how he’s been programmed to live.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I’m not a parent but I still can’t wrap my mind around a father deliberately not seeing his child…because of the CoS. I mean, wow. Just wow. He really has to be in it up to his eyeballs, doesn’t he?
I can only hope that Suri knows that none of this is on her, and that it’s her dad who made a bad choice when he decided to walk away from his own daughter.
Me too, not a parent but can’t imagine.
I have to think Katie and her family do whatever they can to make up for the missing parent, and hopefully continue to explain to her, in more detail as she gets older, that it is solely his poor decision, and truly his loss. It will likely always be hard for her to make peace with, but I hope she can.
You can know that but it won’t make you feel any better. If anything, knowing they are so far gone they don’t feel your pain or experience it either will make you feel worse. Thanks L Ron!
i find it rather endearing that you’re all so outraged about this. sadly, i know lots of fathers who don’t see their children. not because they are in a cult- but because they are not interested. my own father for example.
You are right unfortunately anna, far too many.
Agreed. I know a few people on this thread have mentioned that they’ve cut off contact with a parent or formerly close family member; it’s painful but necessary. Suri’s better off not being connected to this dangerous cult, but I hope she’s also getting lots of emotional support to supplement the absence of her father. It’s heartbreaking to think a little girl would be insecure or think less of herself because her dad’s a selfish a*shole.
If, his child is not being a part of his cult- life experience, then he chooses not to spend time or be a part of her upbringing. Wonder if this was free choice or advise response from the cult’s auditing “therapy sessions”
I am vaguely familiar with “recruiting/auditing” because I was at one time being pressure/recruited by several work acquaintances to be a part of two different cults.
Cults and their minions do scout for recruits who have a steady income and look financially able to contribute to the upkeep of their leaders.
100% right on. He so does not understand unconditional love. His father was a jerk too and although Tom hated him, I think he became just like his father. I think that’s what bonds him with Miscavige – both had dogmatic fathers who were violent and self-centered. Kudos for Katie for protecting her daughter from that cult. Poor kid though. No matter how much a jerk your dad is, you still want a dad who would love you unconditionally.
Tbh I wonder if Katie WOULD allow it, and that’s no judgement on her.
Divorce is one thing, especially when it’s amicable and done maturely, but when you flee a marriage because you’ve made a conscious decision that your mental or physical safety is at risk (and of course emotional abuse and fear count) then you’re not quick to put your child back in that situation.
The man is a member of a cult, a HIGH ranking member.
I 100% agree Tom doesn’t care or want to see Suri anymore, but I also believe if he requested tommorrow Katie would put so many restrictions in place it wouldn’t be a, “So I’m gonna drop you off at your Dad’s on Friday and pick you up on Sunday.” but a “You can sit in this room with me, Suri, and a bodyguard and we’ll all have a nice hour visit.”
Him moving to cult headquarters means their hooks are still in tightly and he has no interest in getting away from them.
This is a group that has been accused by some people of things like kidnappings, false imprisonment, all manner of really shady stuff. I think Katie is well aware and that she understands the need to protect her daughter. I certainly think she’d allow him to see her, albeit with certain safeguards in place. But I don’t blame her for a second for thinking of her daughter first.
Good point. If she were my child, I certainly would be afraid he might brainwash or kidnap her.
This. I think Katie is afraid of him brainwashing Suri, and probably will allow visits but only if they are supervised by her (that’s what I would do at least). That’s prob why Tom refuses to see Suri.
Katie has a good example to look at: Nicole and the way her children were stolen and turned against her.
Yes. I would not allow him to see Suri if I were Katie. I remember reading years ago how his cult followers/nurse maids/nannies whatever treated Suri and it was her daughter’s mistreatment that pushed Katie to get them both the heck out of there. I don’t see her risking Suri’s well-being for occasional visits with Tom.
It’s also something to consider that Katie doesn’t want to be around Tom – not at all – not for a moment. For those of us who’ve left abusive relationships, didn’t we all see them more for what they really are once we were truly free of them? I know I did. I knew my ex was bad for me and it was only going to get worse, but it wasn’t until I left that I really saw him for what he was and kept asking myself why I stayed as long as I did. Once you cut that emotional connection, we see with clearer eyes. I’d think Katy is as creeped out by Tom now as we are. I can’t imagine her wanting to be within reaching distance of him for one second.
Remember right after they divorced Tom took Suri to Disney world for a couple of days, so Katie is not the one stopping Tom from visiting Suri, that all on Tom.
I have always wondered what Katie had on Tom. Maybe she has a deal with him to not see Suri. Perhaps the early visits were just so people would think he had a relationship with her, and then no more after that. They probably assum d the public would assume he was seeing her, somewhere somehow.
I don’t think she has anything on him, Tom just choose not to see Suri.
Ugh, so disappointing. He has no excuse for not seeing his daughter, they seemed to be so close at one point too, which makes me sad for her. She’ll see her dad in movies and magazines but he refuses to spend time with her, and I’m sure it’s all Katie’s fault in his mind.
Tom is a weirdo and delusional; he benefits from slave labor and knows what goes down in that cult of his. While Suri may not understand his father’s rejection, I hope one day she knows it was for her benefit and for the best. And I also hope that cult comes crashing down soon.
+1000
Working constantly, liquidating real estate assets – Tom Cruise is raising funds, IMO.
I thought that too, something is going on. Maybe CO$ is going broke and he is keeping it afloat by himself at this stage, he seems in very deep and is probably second in command at this stage.
As for seeing Suri she is probably better off no where near him, but how do you explain his rejection of her to a small child. It is heartbreaking to see a parent acting so callous towards a child.
I don’t know if they are going broke because of how they are structured but they are on a huge decline. Estimated less than 20K members world wide. A recent podcast went undercover and did some training session with Scientology, if you read their bs they say they are gaining 1000s if new members daily, the 2 who did the pod cast were the only ones in the new member training sessions in LA, which has normally been their hub for new members. They are in a decline, Narconon is being hammered by lawsuits and The COB is spending like there is no tomorrow.
I thought I read (or saw?) something somewhere that they were having a hard time recruiting now that their “great secret” (i.e. Xenu) was public. Hard to get people to pay thousands and thousands for years of auditing when everyone knows the ultimate punchline about aliens. Thus leading to the members bankrolling more and more about the Co$
There are rumors that he is pretty much supporting CO$ these days. They’re not recruiting like they used to.
It is interesting isn’t it? I mean, he’s certainly not poor, but one wonders how many donors the cult has except for Tommy boy these days. It would be interesting to know how much he is propping them up.
Moving to Clearwater and the belly of the beast? Chills. Chills. Chills.
The woman who voices Bart Simpson donated 10 million dollars to Co$ a while ago. They still have big donors. High profile actors have lots of bucks to extract as a “tithe”, hence the emphasis on recruiting celebrities and giving them an easier ride plus perks. Pays off financially.
They have a lot of property to maintain and pay for though, I have to think they are hurting for money, even with the occasional big donation.
Everybody thinks of Tom as their only big financial backer, but I’m guessing most of the celebrity members contribute quite a bit: Travolta, Catherine Bell, Anne Archer, Sky Dayton, Doug E. Fresh, Greta Van Susteran, Jenna Elfman, Beck, Jason Lee, Juliette Lewis, Erika Christensen, Bijou Phillips, Laura Prepon, Danny Masterson, Elizabeth Moss, Kirstie Alley….those are just the famous ones. Think about how many members they have that aren’t household names, but who have money and tithe. They may give as much as Tom singularly, but they give a lot.
JWoolman, hers is a tragic tale too (as so many Co$ ones are). She made a huge fortune voicing Bart, but is pretty much broke at this point. They still trot her out for fundraisers and bleed her dry, but she’s usually down to the type of donations their smaller members make, these days. Her fiancée committed suicide some years ago, and it’s all very Co$-centric. She, like Tom, has pretty much nothing left except for her cult.
just what I said above…I agree with the other responses here…I think the cult is desperate for $$$ (and members) and that he’s the main source of income..er, “donations”. what other $cibots make the $ that he makes?
Or – maybe he’s getting ready to defend legal actions against himself/church? something is up, big!
This is unforgivable, especially when someone, I think Miscaviage’s father, said celebs don’t have to follow the same rules, like disconnect. No one is going to tell him not to see her. He is choosing not to. Katy moves to CA and he sells his home. He is now going to live in England at the COS headquarters he’s renovating of all places. I think he bought that property, but can’t remember the specifics. He is putting every amount of distance between him and his daughter that he can and working nonstop.
What kind of man who acts like he has all the answers, is so enlightened, through ego (Katy getting one over on him) emotionally and physically abandons his own daughter?
Katie doesn’t live in LA anymore she back in New York.
Did anyone watch The Path? It sounds like Tom is preparing to take over CO$
That’s what I’m wondering. I don’t think they’re hurting for money so much as Tom is preparing for something we don’t know about.
The Path was so good.
But wouldn’t talking on the phone or Facetime still be interacting with a non-believer? Is that “allowed”?
If Tom IS still interacting with her only by phone or Facetime, does Suri ask why he doesn’t see her in person? And is the answer always that he is busy? If so, how awful. I would venture to say if there is absolutely no contact, it would be better–no wistful thinking on Suri’s part that SOMEDAY Dad will see her in person, or will see her in a play, or sing in a holiday performance, or a swim meet, or gymnastics, or whatever. Just so sad.
Doubt very much that Suri is wistful about her dad coming to see her in a school play… Really, she probably rarely thinks about him if he really isn’t in contact. If he is in contact (such as by Skype), she’s able to chatter on about all her activities with his full attention. What kid doesn’t like that?!?
I disagree she was not a teenager who saw what was going on when her parents split, but a little girl who look like she loved her daddy.
Talking to someone over the phone is not the samething are having them In person . She 10 years old of course she wants her daddy to be there for her activities.
( If he is in contact (such as by Skype), she’s able to chatter on about all her activities with his full attention. What kid doesn’t like that?!?)
A lot of kids it get old quick. My friend travels a lot for work and yes she talks to him on skype, but he still ask her when she coming home and he wish she was there In his word “to see him win soccer”.
I think it has more to do with Suri being his nondaughter than her being a nonbeliever. That’s probably why Katie was able to get divorced so quickly, she knows some major secrets regarding Tom’s life and Tom was ok with letting Suri go as long as Katie kept her mouth shut.
THIS I believe!! and he is crazy as a betsy bug.
I thought about it too. She might not be his daughter…
Totally his daughter. Look at his face in Risky business and compare it to her baby photos – totally his.
I am sorry. But, in this day and age (and Katie’s past boyfriends), I don’t know if I can buy just “looking like someone” proves paternity… On top of that, Suri has similar features to most of Katie’s past boyfriends.
Also, She has a lot of Katie in her as well.
And he didn’t seem to have a problem holding on to the two children who were adopted. So not so much biology as fear or a turning away from a non-believer.
When Nicole left Tom, he didn’t want her to go but he couldn’t make her “believe” and the CoS told him he couldn’t have a relationship with her because she was deemed by them a suppressive person. She left and he couldn’t really stop her. Their adopted kids were teens or in their early 20’s at the time and continued be CoS followers. That is why those kids stayed in his life. Suri is not a believer so the CoS won’t allow him to have a relationship with her. I believe they do tell him what to do. It may be in a manipulative and conniving way, but they know how to work him and subtle threats to his position or promises of elevation if he does “the right thing” are basically telling him what to do. He has never crossed them when he came to a fork in the road. He chooses them every time. They know how to get what they want from him so I do believe he is completely controlled by them even if he thinks he isn’t.
@ JenniferJustice Isabella and Conner are 23 and 21 respectively now so back in 01 when Tom and Nicoke divorced they were 8 and 5.
Ex Church members have gone on record about programming them to believe that Nicole is a suppressive person when they were kids.
If you’re alluding that Suri is not his child, then please look at her face. She has his face.
And the poor kid got his nose.
This. I don’t believe she’s his daughter. I think he wanted a wife and Katie was knocked up with a failing career, and they came to an arrangement. Given that, and how the marriage to Katie ended, it would be kind of weird if he was still playing dad to her.
He was never an involved father anyway. His older kids were always with Nicole, then living with his sister. The only prolonged time he spent with them was the months after he divorced Nicole, brainwashing them. After he’d managed to cut her out, he ditched them with his sister and they barely got a look in until years later when he needed to play happy families with Katie.
She was just in Batman Begins not exactly a failing career at that point. Maybe now but back then? No.
I do think she was pregnant before she met him and the real baby daddy bailed. Tom was willing to be the father and I could see them getting married because of that. But Katie saw what Suri’s future would’ve been like had she stayed and so she bailed as soon as she could.
they also went to a scientology boarding school in oregon
Batman Begins is basically the one bright spot on her resume during that time, and she was awful in it. It’s like Joey wandered into Gotham accidentally. It was very obvious that Nolan was not remotely disappointed about having to replace her.
Her career was never going to take off, she had 4-5 films that were meant to breakthroughs and none of them worked out for her at all. Tom really did throw his weight around trying to make her a star in those first few years, and he couldn’t even get her one good role. Her career was going downhill real fast.
I always thought the reason he let Katie and Suri go so quickly was that he didn’t want a custody battle to happen as it might raise questions of paternity (and a paternity test)… and that is also the reason he isn’t so fussed on seeing her now (that’s awful to me though – you raised her, she’s your daughter… I don’t care about biology!!).
I don’t think appearance is such an easy thing to call – she’s a young, fair, dark haired child… you could stand her next to hundreds of brown haired white guys and find SOME resemblance. I don’t feel good ‘speculating’ about the paternity of a child – it’s awful to think she’ll hear all these rumours one day and feel insecure about her identity. BUT there were some weird happenings around her conception and birth so her parents really fuelled the fire (her time of conception, her birth date etc.)
Again with this? Look at photos from when he was first starting out, before he touched his teeth and face. She looks just like him.
Absolutely agree. The more that comes out about Tom Cruise the more I believe the rumors that Tommy Davis is Suri’s biological father. The older she gets, the more she looks like Tommy Davis. The resemblance in uncanny.
But I mean – he doesn’t have vastyl different features from Cruise. They look like they could all be related.
I 100% agree with this. There is no way he wouldn’t have fought tooth and nail for his daughter had Katie not been holding some kind of Trump card he desperately didn’t want to see played. He caved and gave her whatever she wanted, and quickly. Tom’s first wife Mimi Rogers alluded to him having sexual problems, so it just really all makes sense. I know people here say Suri looks like Tom but I don’t see it at all. She’s a mini Katie Holmes.
Cher said he was one of her best lovers. Nicole has never said they had problems sexually, and has always talked about the many great memories of their marriage. It was a real marriage. And she herself has stated she was pregnant by him twice, once in the early stages of their marriage, and at the end, and lost both babies.
Tom was pulling away from and dumping Mimi.
I see Tom Cruise in her and Katie in Suri. Katie was madly in love with Tom and got pregnant within the first few months of their relationship.
I never thought Suri was Tom’s daughter. I’m actually pretty surprised that this is still debated.
I always got an asexual (celibate) vibe from Cruise. I doubt he and Katie ever had sex.
+1
Suri looks exactly like Tommy Davis for sure. no doubt
CORRECT! She is NOT his daughter. Anyone who believes Katie was only 10 weeks pregnant when she was first photographed with a “bump” back in early Oct 2005 must also believe in unicorns. She was at least 5 months then. Google the photo. Does that look like a two pound fetus or a 1/4 OUNCE fetus. No brainer, not his kid
Why would remain in a group that says your daughter is a potential trouble source? Cruise is brainwashed or they have some damaging information on him.
Because the group means more to him than his daughter. This is extremely common among cult members. Leah Remini said it herself – the group becomes your mother, father, children, etc. Placing anybody above the group is a heresy.
He’s brainwashed, but it is more than that. There is a delusional part to his personality. He has delusions of grandeur and is narcissistic to a fault. He believes he is more enlightened than all of us, and his arrogance about it is blinding. Taking those sides to his personality and hooking up with COS brought them out in full force. David Miscaviage has given him a lot of power within the church and he feeds off of that. It’s like he’s insane with power. It’s disgusting, really.
I buy this, all of it.
I agree with all of this.
It’s sad to think that one can be so pulled into such a toxic way of seeing things/living their life. But on the other hand, I find it hard to feel too bad for Tom because of the horrible things CO$ supports.
I knew that he was a narcissist and delusional, but the Scientology video of him saying that only a Scientologist knows what to do in a crisis and other ridiculous claims, while the theme to Mission Impossible played, cemented my opinion. He’s basically second in command to a cult. No doubt he’ll be using Sea Org slave labour, to renovate the manor house in England. Disconnecting from his child is unforgivable. He really believes he’s a superior human being.
this is the best description of Cruise I have read on here ever. Amen.
Remember the rumors that siri might not even be his. He couldn’t have children which is why nicole and him adopted. The other rumor was that siri might have been chris kleins. Truthfully, i never felt like tom was the biological father..
Unfortunately she has his eyes. I WISH she wasn’t his.
agreed. she looks so much like Cruise.
Yeah, I wondered about this. He really doesn’t seem like the type to blithely surrender bio spawn.
That was my thought too – that he was super excited and couch jumping on Oprah because he finally had the biological child with Katie that he always wanted. That is why it surprised me to see him walk away from Suri so easily.
He would turn on his own mother if she didn’t follow his insanity.
Well didn’t he lock away his mother because she suffers from dementia? I remember reading awhile back about how his mother just up and disappeared. That she has dementia and that’s a no no for $ci?
Nicole was pregnant when he dumped her. DNA testing of her miscarriage confirmed it was Tom’s.
It wasn’t so much that he couldn’t have children, more that he was/is asexual. His first wife complained about that. And when she was pregnant, flaunted it which led to rumours that Tom was infertile based upon her pregnancy.
Nicole Kidman took DNA samples of her miscarriage to prove that baby was Tom’s baby and not product of affair everyone assumed she’d had with Ewan McGregor.
Do you have any idea the kind of funds she is paid to keep quiet or say what was scripted for her? And those funds will keep coming, and she keeps reading her scripts as directed by his people. She reported the “DNA results” as she was told.
@ honeybee blues
I don’t believe that for a minute, you do know that it their idea to get rid of Nicole.
They felt Nicole had too much influence on Tom and could have gotten him to leave the cult. So why would they pay her money to lie? When they tried to destroy her and started rumors that the baby wasn’t Tom’s and she cheated on him.
Well hasn’t it basically been confirmed that Katie divorced him largely over fears that he was going to send Suri to the Sea Org? The religion played a very large role in the divorce.
And while I do not think Katie would deny him access to Suri, I can certainly believe that Katie would place restrictions on how she can be exposed to his beliefs. I don’t think she’d be okay with allowing her daughter to attend affiliated events, for example. I remember reading that Suri attends a Roman Catholic school (which is Katie’s previous religion), and Katie would probably want that respected. He’s just not willing to do so.
We seem to be living in an era of insanity, madness and even evil played out in plain sight. From Trump to Scientology to the inadequacy of police, the courts and a wide segment of the public to address sexual assault and abuse, we’re witnessing behaviours and beliefs that no amount of outrage or awareness raised seems to affect.
How can Trump spew bigotry? How can David Miscavige’s wife still be missing? How can Johnny Depp’s staff make up flat out lies about Amber Heard?
It feels like enforced complicity.
It seems like something out of a post-apocalyptic or dystopian novel. It’s so bizarre that this is are real current events in our society.
As sad as it is for Suri to not have him in her life, I think she is MUCH better off. I can’t see Tom being anything but problematic (considering his HEAVY commitment to CO$) and possibly trying to pull her away from Katie and back into the “religion.”
Someone said this a few days ago, and your post reminded me: we’re already living in a dystopian society. We just haven’t realized it yet.
Don’t do this to me. It’s too early in the day for me to have an anxiety attack, haha.
They’re totally right though. We don’t realize it because we’re used to it as normal.
Where’s that utopian society humans ever occupied? I think we’re all just getting on the way humans have always just tried to get on throughout history. We’re personally safer and we generally live in better conditions than our ancestors. I wouldn’t fret too much!
this country has gone mad.
As @sketches has reiterated above, we are actually living better, safer lives. The age of information has educated us MORE than our ancestors which has made us fearful about the state of the world, but objectively, it is actually much MUCH better than before.
I’d rather live in the current era yhan at any other time in history because unless you were a 1%, you were pretty much screwed and in many cases a slave to rest of society.
So true in so many ways. And yet…
Where is the emotional/moral evolution? Women have the vote, black people have the vote, yet sexism and racism and the wage gap remain stubbornly entrenched. We have laws against hate speech – yet Trump can denigrate a respected judge simply for being Mexican.
Here in Canada, we thought so much had been learned about sexual assault and the power of celebrity… and then we had the trial of a high profile abuser and his accusers were demeaned and torn apart on the stand. It was breath-takingly awful to watch.
Scientology appears to be an organized evil that can condemn, label and punish non-believers and influence parents to neglect their children and children to shun their parents. The things they do to their own borders on and even crosses the line into criminality. And it just carries on. And we see it.
I agree that we’ve never lived in Utopia and that in many ways life has improved. But we do seem to have regressed as far as racism (in particular) is concerned and generally speaking, misogyny, hatred and fear appear to be on the rise. The fact that the bigots and haters and abusers feel so weirdly empowered to express their worst and darkest thoughts – and find support for them – is what feels regressive and dystopian and remarkable to me.
“How can David Miscavige’s wife still be missing?”
Isn’t weird how much Ho$ has managed to elude government authority – the police and the IRS for starters. In Germany it’s treated as a threat to democracy.
Tom is a freak. I wouldn’t go to see one of his movies if he PAID me to go see it. I just can’t support him. Hopefully he will never see Suri again. She will be better off without his whacked out influence.
I stopped supporting TC when he kicked Nicole out. Have not seen a movie new or old since then. And who the heck asked for a new Mummy movie? Egotistical Little Twerp!
Poor Lil Suri would have to go thru a bunch of conditioning assignments or whatever Cos does just to be able to see him most likely.
She is better off, its still weird though.
I thought Katie & Suri moved to LA last year. They have a house in Calabassas.
Suri is flourishing. She’s a healthy, happy child who has friends and activities and spends time with the family that loves her regardless of their religion. She’s better off with the Holmeses than the Cruises who have sold their souls to a false idol. Anyone that would turn their back on a child, who had no say in her religious beliefs, is a POS.
I thought they were living there as well (for at least the past couple of years).
They are bi-coastal they live in both places
Katie and Suri live in Ny now, they move to LA sometime in 2014. They moved back to NY last year.
I think she’s still primarily based in CA, but goes to nyc frequently for work. Over the past month I’ve seen photos of Suri going to school, dance, gymnastics etc. in CA, so it seems like that’s their home.
Suri is also going to school in NY their are photos of her in uniform with the nanny and for her and friends going to dance class.
I agree. Suri seems to be doing really well with her grandparents seemingly really involved and Katie seems like a great mum. It’s funny because Tom Cruise used to allude to his terrible father a lot in interviews and now he’s a bad father himself. Blindspots…
When Tom and Nicole divorced, their kids lived with Nicole in the beginning even though she was nonbeliever. Slowly Tom turned the kids to his side, and turned them away from Nicole. I wonder why he didn’t go that same route with Suri? The only thing I can think of is that Tom had his Mom around to raise his kids with Nicole and now his Mom is sick and basically MIA. Tom might be one of those Dads that is great when he has a female around to guide him but hopeless when he has to figure it out on his own. That or Katie has some serious dirt on him and because of his ego he decided not to fight….
I think Katie, to use the parlance of our times (h/t Maude Lebowski), kept her receipts, and used them to negotiate a divorce settlement where Cruise’s access to Suri is on her terms. I doubt she is keeping Suri from seeing her father, but I expect unsupervised visits are off the table, which would make it very difficult for to Cruise to find opportunities to alienate Suri from her mother. And if Suri can’t be programmed to the greater glory of Co$, Tiny Tom is not interested.
It is incredibly sad. I have a 6-month-old, and I would want to die of grief if I couldn’t see him for one year, let alone 3. Cannot imagine what the hellscape inside Tom Cruise’s mind must be like.
He’s a poor excuse for a father.
No excuse for this. What a jerk. The best thing Katie Holmes and her family every did was get that little girl away from him.
First of all…Katie Holmes does not live in New York anymore. She moved back to Los Angeles permanently 2 years ago to continue with her acting career and part time role in Ray Donovan…
Also who says Tom Cruise is the biological father of Suri? Perhaps he had a paternity test done and found out he was not? They barely knew each other when she got pregnant and Chris Klein could of easily also be the dad.
I think she’s back living in NYC again. The pictures of Suri’s 10th birthday on April 18 were in NYC.
As I said above she movies back to NY last year check her Instagram she was pictures all last year and was also pop there all the time last year and this year.
I find these not-biological-father theories weird. She looks exactly like Tom Cruise and his cousin! Same nose, eyes, etc! When she smiles you can get a glimpse of Katie but even though I think you have to be a disturbed individual to be a scientologist, I don’t think they (Holmes and Cruise) were that insane as to have something like that going on.
As someone who’s been abandoned by family members, my heart breaks for Suri. Tom used to be a great actor too. He needs to get away from that cult and go back to drama based films. Stop with the action crap.
me too, Ginger. I’d hate to read about this in the news and realize everyone was feeling sorry for me and my life was not as great as I was trying to make it. So hard.
Suri was used to Tom being away for long periods, that’s normal to her. Other kids deal with parents who do likewise, such as people in the military or who travel extensively for business. Besides, why is everybody so anxious to expose Suri to any more of Tom than absolutely necessary?!?
For all we know, Suri could be having computer-assisted visual contact with Tom every day. The technology really is a major game changer. When I was a kid, we only had letters. Long distance phone calls were too expensive even inside the United States for routine use. Now cheap unlimited plans are available and there’s skype plus face time on phones. Parents who use these tools to stay in contact probably have more quality time with their kids than many non-distant parents.
I do think Katie would be foolish to allow Tom unsupervised realspace contact with Suri. There is way too much risk that he will send her off to parts unknown. And who knows what he would try to tell her — he has a record of parental alienation on a grand scale.
Anyway, the tabloids are undoubtedly more concerned about Tom seeing Suri than Suri herself is.
Until that last year of their marriage, Suri and Katie were with Tom on location all the time. She was used to her daddy being around a lot.
Tom wasn’t denied access to his daughter after the divorce. He agreed to visitation and part of that was no COS exposure. There were photos of him at Walt Disney World with his daughter, and the last sighting was another visit with him in West Virginia,. Maybe he was shooting a movie and then had a little vacation with her. That was the last extended visit she had with her father as far as sightings. That was June 2013. He is the one who has chosen not to see his daughter and wasn’t denied unsupervised access to her. He’s pathetic,
And this article came out several days ago, and yet no big disclaimer from Tom that it isn’t true. He is a lost soul. The idiot is telling everyone else how to have a successful life, yet his personal life is a mess.
You’re not looking at this Through The Eyes of a child. Suri was 6 years old with her parents split and yes she didn’t see Tom all the time, but he did visit her or Katie would take for suri to see him.
My parents split when before I was a year old but my sister was 4 . Because I was so young and didn’t have that memory and because he didn’t really come and visit us before he stopped all together. I didn’t have a connection to him so growing up and didn’t think him at all.
Now take my sister would cry for him to come see her and it hurt her badly when he didn’t and then when it stopped altogether because they had a connection. Even now in her late thirties she still reached out to him and wants a relationship with him and she has one.
You can’t prarent someone from a phone. Seeing someone,talking to someone p touching and feeling someone in person is completely different , than talking to someone over the phone or from a camera. You can’t even compare the two.
Eh this isn’t surprising. Other than the fact I don’t think Tom is Suri’s biological father I also think there’s a lot more going on we don’t know about. If she was his biological child I doubt he’d ever give up so easily. But he did for whatever reason.
Suri is better off she seems much happier with Katie and her parents there were pics of them at Suri’s ballet recital the other day.
Katie had everything set up before she blindsided him. Her father was a divorce attorney. She was afraid of his power. What did she blindside him with to get him to agree to all conditions, which was Suri not being raised as a Scientologist, and him having visitation but not half custody, since she would be going to a normal school? She had a boatload on him and his crazy religion COS.
Tom’s last nasty divorce hurt him careerwise a bit, and then later his bizarre behavior regarding the COS almost destroyed his career. It took him years to get his career back big again. And Katie had the goods. If he fought her, down goes the career again with all the negative publicity and stuff she revealed, and the COS taking another big hit. Plus he was not going to get what he wanted. His other children were COS schooled, mostly at home with his mom there, and could travel with him after he and Nicole split. Katie would have won the argument anyway that Suri would go to a non-COS school in one spot as Tom was off on location all the time and Katie was the primary caregiver. She had him over a barrel, and his arrogant self hates her for it.
His acquiescing to her demands had nothing to do with the belief by some that Suri isn’t his. I don’t believe that. And if he wanted, he could still be an involved father. He doesn’t spend the time he could with her as a father now because he is in a cult and believes what he believes, that Katie and Suri are SPs. I think in the beginning he did see Suri because he was still in shock by what had happened and also damage control, some pics with her. As time went on, he separated from her because he is so knee deep in Scientology and because he resents the hold Katy has over him over his visitations with the rules, no Scientology allowed around her, when that’s his whole life and who he is surrounded by.
I don’t know why you think it had nothing to do with it I agree with most of what you said but Tom kept Connor/Isabella who weren’t his bio kids. Yet Suri the one child he claimed was his biological child is the one he was so willing to let go?
For all you know Suri isn’t his and for that it was easier for Tom to cut bait
So she was pregnant when she met him? Doesn’t work timeline-wise. So within the first few months she bangs Tommy Davis? LOL He used Tommy Davis’ sperm to impregnate her so soon when he got Nicole pregnant twice? What a crock. It sounds like the Beyonce pillow conspiracy stories. LOL
She is the spitting image of Tom.
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@CF98
That doesn’t make sense at all, Isabella and Conor aren’t his Bio kids he could have easily cut them out of his life and let Nicole have them, but he didn’t.
It actually does work timeline wise. Katie looked 9 months pregnant when she was meant to be around the 5 month mark. She disappeared for a couple of weeks around then, notable because before and after that she was literally being papped daily. When she came back her ‘bump’ was constantly different. I’ve been pregnant and had a changing bump, but once I got huge, I stayed huge. Katie wandered around for a couple of days with a bump that looked like she swallowed an oversized beach ball, then a few days later was out and about with a barely rounded, small bump. You don’t go from about to pop to ‘maybe she just had a big meal’ when pregnant.
Jayna, what has tommy davis got to do with it? I don’t know who in the world started that idiotic rumor but sheeeesh! It doesn’t even make sense, why him? No. And Pepper you are correct, the timeline and the ever changing bump say it all. They were so arrogant they what….didn’t think anyone would put two and two together? The first photo of her “bump” in Oct 2005 she looks to be around 5 months, NOT 10 weeks. So this was supposed to be hi first biological child, and her first child? Who in their right mind would jeopardize that by flying 15 hours one way to a state memorial for a man they never even met, stay a few days and fly back? Makes NO sense, and that’s just a FEW of the examples of proof there is NO WAY that is his kid, or that she gave birth on April 18th. Nope.
I cant even fathom not wanting to see your child. My daughter is 13 months old and hasnt even spent a night away yet because i can hardly bear even being away form her while im at work.
Good for Suri, is all I got. It’s really sad for her that her father is an effed-up, deranged and dangerous loon, but the positive is that this little girl, thanks to her mum, got away from and won’t ever, hopefully, have to experience the grim reality of his effed-up, deranged and dangerous lunacy.
Wow, remember when Suri was carried everywhere and had to be wrapped in blankets? I bet the first thing Katie did after leaving Tom was set Suri on her own two feet and insist she wear a jacket. Suri must be so much happier living with rules and boundaries, aka being a child, rather than being viewed as an adult in a child’s body.
I wonder if Isabella and Connor ignore her, too.
They never seemed to have a relationship with her they were in LA with Tom’s sister while Suri traveled with Katie and lived mostly in NY. So I’m sure they don’t have a relationship with her now and that’s sad.
Good question about Isabella and Conor – do they still consider Suri their sibling and vice-versa?
What a bizarre man Tom Cruise is.
Shortly after Katie and Suri moved back to LA, Connor and Tom’s mother moved to Clearwater, FL. I don’t think that’s a coincidence. It seems like the whole family has disconnected from her. I know she’s probably better off without the sci influence, but I can’t imagine how painful it would be to be shunned by half of your family. At least Katie comes from a big family so Suri has lots of cousins, aunts, uncles, as well as her grandparents.
It makes me wonder if Connor and Isabella have any type of relationship with Nicole’s two youngest. I think it would be kept very quiet if it happens. But if Connor is still living with Tom’s mom, she’s keeping an eye out for the SPs.
Here is my wild conspiracy theory. Tom doesn’t see Suri because Suri isn’t his.
Yes I know she looks like him, I know, I’m probably crazy.
Following your theory,Connor and Bella” aren’t his” either yet he has always been in their lives.So he has three kids that aren’t his biological kids but he doesn’t see one of them,the one who is a “nonbeliever”.
He never claimed Connor and Isabella as his biological kids they were always adopted.
It was Suri he claimed as his flesh and blood.
Even if for the sake of argument Suri isn’t Tom’s biological daughter……they lived as father and daughter for like 6 years. That would be cold for him to jettison her for that reason. Tom’s other children Isabella and Conor are not his biological children, either.
If anyone has read the “thinly veiled” novel version of the TomKat story–“Movie Star by Lizzie Pepper” by Hilary Liftin–it was a good read I thought.
He ditched Nicole k once it became clear she was never going to be on board with the CO$ 100% and Penelope Cruz ditched him once she saw how that CO$ was going to be a third wheel in the relationship. So i can see him sadly ditching her too since she can’t be down with the cult but i have to side eye Katie too she saw crazy and was willing to play until she woke up by the grace of god saw that she had no career,freedom and could most likely loose her child . Then what i can never understand about the whole Nicole K thing why did she have kids with a man who wasn’t comparable where it matter most and i think it a shame what happen to her kids relationship i am super close to my mom .But if they have tapes of her talking that means he never truly left the church just downplayed his involvement to her.
Sofia Vergara ditched him too. Also the HO$ people and David M especially targeted Nicole Kidman and drove a wedge between #2 and Kidman because her dad was a psychiatrist, a big no-no for HO$. What’s part. disturbing is TC is extremely articulate 99% of the time in interviews – unless you get him talking about Brooke Shields or prescription meds.
He wouldn’t leave the cult for Nicole, Penelope , Sofia so my gut tells me he not going to see or call suri he going to sadly ignore her . The whole Nicole k thing is awful but they couldn’t drive a wedge if there wasn’t a crack in the relationship i read the call transcript he did not seem happy at all. I think he may have down played his true feelings for two reason to get the upper leg in the divorce ( now that i think about it she would have fought he wouldn’t have need to sprang the divorce ) the second reason so she couldn’t see that he was going back to the CO$ . I don’t think he dumb per say i think he loves yes people more than he loves people that will make him face reality for what it is like Penelope,Nicole, Sofia
I’m just going to weigh in and say I do think Suri is his mostly because of the description that Leah Remini gave of how the Sceino minders were treating Suri @ the TomKat wedding basically like a toddler omnipotent recarnation of L Ron Hubbard. Of course Tom’s bio kid would be treated like a god-toddler. If he is sterile there is much more technology to beef up sperm count these days. Also legally speaking at the time of the divorce even if Suri was adopted or not biologically his that would have nothing to do with visitation. My belief is Katie was somehow able to stipulate that no Scientology members would come near Suri and that she would be raised as a Catholic that’s enough to make her an SP
How is he sterile if Nicole said in an interview a few years ago that she had two pregnancies with Tom, one early on and one later, and lost both babies, one in an ectopic pregnancy.
“It was wrongly reported,” she says of the claim that she miscarried her first baby. “It didn’t happen. I had a miscarriage at the end of my marriage – but I had an ectopic pregnancy at the beginning of my marriage. It was incredibly traumatic for me.”
She adds that from the time she married Cruise “I wanted to have babies”.
Two years after the end of her first pregnancy, the couple adopted Isabella. Connor followed two years later.”
I was speaking in hypotheticals as I said my personal opinion is that Suri is biologically his.
Now we know the truth about Tom & Nicole’s children and their rejection of their mother. All the shame on you, Tommy.
why did she not fight against it “they don’t call me mummy or mom they say Nicole ” like WTF my mom would slap me silly if i dared call by her first name and i know that it is something that happen over time but still i see pics of her with the kids and baby faith so it makes me wonder did they come normal and then come back talking about. She wasn’t their mom Katie was and don’t talk to me because yr a sp person. I think he only married Katie to improve his image
First time commenting.
“Piece by piece” by Kelly Clarkson says it all. Always brings me to tears. My dad worked a lot. It did affect me.
I don’t like being away from my daughter for the night and I can’t even imagine not seeing her for 3 years! Such a shame.
Poor Suri! 🙁
And yeah is there an award out there that Katie Holmes can be granted for being a divorce ninja? Go girl.
Suri is the spitting image of Tommy Davis! You think she looks like Tom Cruise until you see the other guy…it’s crazy how much Suri looks like TD. I don’t believe she’s Tom’s kid.
she looks nothing like tommy davis either! And it makes NO sense why that would even be an option. Why would that have even happened, it ludicrous! The person she has looked just like since she was a toddler is Josh Hartnett, and he was the last person she was seen on a date with before she auditioned to be tc’s beard
Just google Tommy Davis
Suri looks just like him
She looks just like Tom Cruise.
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You wouldn’t win awards for facial recognition – ive taken tests in it and am in the top 1% of super recognisers – and that kid has the face of Tommy Davis as far as im concerned
she looks nothing like tom, not one single feature!
Ceeley, someone in the top 1% in the field of facial recognition should know that that field is about recognising the faces of individuals not in recognising the similarities or lack of between blood relations. Being good at facial recognition has zero bearing on your skills at detecting genetic connections.
I think maybe HO$ and David M is devoting all resources to keep #2 in the House. “You’re #2 so you have to set a good example to others by cutting out all connections to SPs.” I believe that’s very likely why TC hasn’t seen Suri for so long, because she’s effectively an SP because she lives with her mother, who definitely left the religion, and because TC has been forced to set a “good example.”
Second, maybe he wants to get back at Katie Holmes. Not too sure if this is true but there was some guy on Twitter who claimed he’d met Tom Cruise recently and said he was talking passive aggressively about Katie Holmes.
I think you are on to something hurting Suri is really the only way he can get to Katie she has to look in her daughter eyes see the sadness of going from daddy girl to nothing. Since he can’t have CO$ tail her and he hated/hates having to bend to her will this his is payback he just not going to see her or call so he can’t bend and i do think he only took the kids with Nicole k just to hurt her . David M can’t have tom seeing or talking to PTS because Nicole was one she made him kick M to the streets so he dose want him in FL to keep a eye on him.
Can someone please tell me if it’s true or not did he really take the kids out of school while Nicole k was filming because i know that he made shore they went to her instead her coming to them.
As far as I know his kids never went to school. It’s customary for $cieno kids to be home schooled
thanks for the info for some reason i always thought that since Nicole hated CO$ they had a normal upbringing in their early days
There are big holes in this story. Katie and Suri moved back to Southern California over a year ago. The house she bought was written up all over the internet.
Jayna
I think she was pregnant by an ex before she met Tom and probably didn’t realize it at the time.
Flowerchild,
He went on record that Suri was his blood he didn’t with the other two to say Suri isn’t his after all that time could you imagine that scandal?
It’s not possible that she was pregnant by an ex before she met Tom. They made their first public appearance together as a couple on April 27th of 2005. She gave birth to Suri a year later on April 18th of 2006.
They said she gave birth then.
If there was a “scandal ” it would look bad on Katie not Tom. Somthing like Katie lying about Suri parenthood should be gold for the cult. They would have use that to shame her in the media and made Tom look like a innocent victim.
Once again Tom going record on that Suri was his blood , don’t matter. Isabelle and Conner aren’t his Bio kids he could have just been done with them and write them off.
Except Tom knew the entire time and didn’t care as long as the public knew. I mean he had an interview with Oprah about all of this after Suri was born. If that came out then people will question Nicole’s miscarriage and that he wasn’t the father of that kid either….
Sure he could’ve written off his other two kids but he didn’t yet his bio kid he did? You would think the bio kid would be favored….
@weirswalker wait, what? She needs to find a great man asap? That’s crazy to me. You don’t run out and get married to the first nice guy you meet just to have a “father figure” for your child. That’s the worst advice ever! I have a young son, and his father sees him maybe three times a year, maybe talks to him on the phone once every couple of months. But I am very leery of who I let into my son’s life in that capacity. We live close to my parents, so not only does he have his grandfather to look up to, I have male family friends, he has uncles, his grown older brother, etc. It’s not like single mothers raise their children in a vacuum with no men around at all, geezy petes. If she finds a great man who will love her and Suri, fantastic, but it doesn’t need to be at the top of tomorrow’s to-do list by any means. I’m thinking I may just stay single until my little one is grown up, tbh.
Im no Cruise fan in terms of Scientology – but it bizzare everyone thinks that Katie would of course want Surie to spend time with her father – she used BURNER phones to leave him for the love of God! Its far more likely she had shit on him and negotiated for him to not be around her Daughter because she didn’t trust him with Scientology…
She did allow Suri go to Disney world for a couple of days with Tom when they first got divorced, while she remained in NY.
Yes but a bunch of cameras were around so everyone was watching.