Caitlyn Jenner has been quiet about politics for months. I actually believed that her new LGBTQ friends were talking some sense into her, especially after a series of interviews Cait gave in which she sounded ridiculously out of touch. Before Cait was Cait, she was a very conservative Republican. A country-club Republican who golfed all the time. Post-transition, Caitlyn still holds the same political views regardless of how her life has changed. She even said that post-transition, she got more “flack” for being Republican than being trans. She’s also said that Hillary Clinton is no LGBT ally and that Donald Trump “would be very good for women’s issues.” So, what fresh hell have we unearthed today? Cait gave an interview to Stat, and yes, she’s still all about Donald Trump. Some highlights from the interview:
Whether she has any physical issues post-transition: “It’s not as much a physical health issue as it is an emotional issue. Physically, we had it down pretty good as far as transitioning, to do it in a healthy way. It’s mostly the emotional scars that need to be healed that had festered for a long, long time. So probably the bigger issue is the mental side because we have tremendous suicide rates, murder rates — it’s off the charts.”
Whether medical professionals understand trans people: “Specialists do. The medical profession in general doesn’t understand it — and I understand that. They don’t teach it in college. You’ve got to kind of learn it on your own. There are specialists out there like in Philadelphia, like in LA, that are so far ahead of everybody else.
Whether Republicans or Democrats understand trans issues better: “I’m on the conservative Republican side. I’m not excited with what Obama has done to the economy, to our Constitution, all that kind of stuff. But as far as the transgender community, they’ve actually been very good. Everybody looks at the Democrats as being better with these issues. But Trump seems to be very much for women. He seems very much behind the LGBT community because of what happened in North Carolina with the bathroom issue. He backed the LGBT community. But in Trump’s case, there’s a lot more unknowns. With Hillary, you pretty much know what you’re gonna get with the LGBT community.
So, once again, Caitlyn’s politics are still that of a 60-something rich white dude, a country club Republican who relates to Donald Trump. I’m also bewildered (and offended) by this idea that Trump is “behind” the LGBT community just because he said some words about letting trans people use whatever bathroom they wanted, words he said months ago and will probably take back at some point. After all, his response to the Orlando massacre was tone-deaf, he opposes marriage equality and he thinks those “religious freedom” bills are a great idea. As for this idea that Trump is great for women… Caitlyn keeps trying to sell that. And no one’s buying.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
She doesn’t speak for women. She speaks for old rich white guys.
And old rich women. Trump has no shortage of cis women backing him.
As far as women’s issues go, he’s pervy and crass and just generally vile, but his actual policies in regards to womens rights/LGBT rights are very much in line with the Republican party’s usual policies. He’s actually more progressive when it comes to womens issues and LGBT issues than some former nominees and some of the people who ran this year. Which is insane, but it’s where the Republican party is at. If the women who vote Republican haven’t already been turned off due to those issues in past elections, there’s no reason they would be this time around.
He’s anti-choice. Because, you know, Donald Trump, just LOVES fetuses.
TAXE$$$$ also play a role. She has a lot of money and Trump’s tax plan will benefit wealthy people like her, regardless of what bullshit he has claimed to the contrary.
He’s not anti-choice, really.
Before this ridiculous bullshit he actually donated money to women’s centers that performed abortion in New York, apparently. It’s something that his conservative supporters would be horrified by and his liberal opposition doesn’t generally know. I can’t stand Trump, he’s a revolting human being, but it does seem like he’s affecting the conservative attitude and doesn’t actually believe a lot of what he’s selling.
Now I feel gross because I semi-defended Trump. Ugh. I really hope that if he’s elected it will become evident that he was just posturing with the religious freedom and anti-abortion rhetoric. I get the feeling the racist bullshit is 100% him though, judging by his past hiring policies.
Yup. She may be a woman now, but her comments reveal she’s still very very much a “rich white dude” when it comes to her politics.
Bruce was an idiot most of the time. Why would we expect Caitlyn to be any different?
Whether a trans woman or white dude, she is still privileged.
Exactly! Rich white male privilege on parade with this one. No woman would ever think that tangerine bloviating gasbag was for anyone other than himself. Seems to reason why Caitlyn would be a supporter. They have much in common
This woman turned out to be one of the ugliest women I’ve seen. Forgive me God for this statement.
Eh to be fair elite Republicans are the ones freaking out about Trump getting so far. Trump’s base isn’t rich white people. It’s poor white high school educated people.
Remember he said, “I love the poorly educated.”
Who he’s never done a damn thing for and still won’t if he wins. Yet they’ll still vote against themselves by electing him and his political ilk.
Her views on what it means to be a woman have always been sketchy, short sighted and offensive. She still thinks the hardest part of being a woman is the fashion choices. She hasn’t experienced LIFE as a woman, and no matter how many hormones and surgeries she takes and goes through, she cannot make up for that. She’s lacking the inisight and female empathy to really be one of us. She simply doesn’t get it! I think she transitioned too late in her life, that she never truly had to BE a woman in any other aspect except the fashion. It’s like she’s playing dress up and Caitlyn is a fun little character. She went through life’s struggles as a man. I wonder if she realizes how much more differently building a fortune and a career would’ve been as a woman. Like every rich white Republican dude, she only cares about herself and her money. I wonder what exactly about her is female. She has no female attributes. She thinks like a man 100%, and not just because of her politics. She gives no fucks about her kids, she doesn’t seem to connect with other women, she doesn’t seem to understand female needs, she’s arrogant and stubborn… Just like most men are. I don’t like Kris but the way she has treated her is appalling.
As long as Cait doesn’t connect with women and women’s needs, I’ll keep seeing her as nothing more than a glorified cross dresser. She’s bad for transpeople. I have honestly never seen a transgender person so disconnected to the gender they claim to be. Ever.
^^^^^ THIS
“As long as Cait doesn’t connect with women and women’s needs, I’ll keep seeing her as nothing more than a glorified cross dresser. She’s bad for transpeople. I have honestly never seen a transgender person so disconnected to the gender they claim to be.”
I’ve never seen such a salient analysis of Caitlyn. You put into words things I’ve been marinating on for months.
In before someone says MtF don’t experience male privilege growing up. I see this constantly and it drives me nuts. It shows a profound misunderstanding of how privilege works.
I’m starting to think it’s probably damaging for trans people to identify as either male or female.
They are trans. I’m cool with that. Needing to pick a side — whether that pressure is internal or imposed by society — just does not work. Trans women are not like cis women, and trans men are not like cis men. I wish we as a society could just accept people the way they are without needing to put them in readily identifiable gender boxes.
Anyway…
Having said that: Caitlyn and her entire family is just one big mess. Totally selfish and self-absorbed. Like she doesn’t even care that Donald Trump is racist and would turn America into a nightmare like what Brexit has done to Britain. Also, Trump backtracked on the bathroom issue in N.C. So she’s wrong about that in the first place.
Your last paragraph sums up my feelings perfectly.
100% what Annie says
It’s possible to be a woman and disconnected from women’s issues too. It’s not like there aren’t cis women in his camp saying the same thing. I don’t think it’s fair to say she’s less a woman because she wasn’t born one. Ignorance comes in all flavours.
@Annie you nailed it. Perfectly said.
I agree with you. Germaine Greer almost got lynched when she criticized her for winning ‘Woman of the Year’ somewhere. The Jenners are firstly not human and secondly not women. But damn they provide some awesome entertainment for the End Times. Rock on Celebitches!!
Annie – YES!!! 10000%!!!
@Annie- truly well stated. I agree 100% & you stated it far more eloquently than I would have 🙂
Yea Trump is SO good for the gays. Just ask the gays. /s
what an awesome Twitter take down THAT was. “the gays” really let him have it.
+1 @mira
This level of idiocy astonished me: “I’m not excited with what Obama has done to the economy, to our Constitution, all that kind of stuff.” -Caitlyn Jenner
It borders on being criminally stupid or plain diabolical to put this kind of fallacy in the universe.
It’s hard to believe that someone that wealthy is so painfully dumb about where the economy was in 2007-2008 when President Obama took office: our banking industry failing, our biggest manufacturing industry (Auto) was near toast, our reputation in the world after 3 unnecessary trillion dollar wars based on LIES in tatters, the possible torture/war crimes that sullied everything we believe in, and the worst terrorist attack on home soil ever.
BUshNDck buried us in deep foul sh*,that it took several years to recover from. But having been in corporate America where my business is reliant upon the health of the economy and where our financial dept every month reports out on the state of the economy – anyone who’s read the indicators for the last 8 years knows we’ve been growing steadily year after year and unemployment is at its lowest in decades! Obama brought us BACK.. And he should get credit for doing that, just like he should get credit for getting OBL. Add to that the steady stock market boom and bottom barrel gas prices!
So wtf is Jenner talking about?
As for her comment re the Constitution – what does that even mean? Does anyone eliciting these ignorant answers ever do follow up to ask these doofuses to explain themselves?! Because there’s no excuse for b. S. fiction about the economy and this admin…we’re ignorant enough.
The right wing propaganda machine does not consider the facts when it churns out these insane narratives, which people like KJ swallow hook, line and sinker and then mindlessly parrot.
You could almost see it happening in real time with the Benghazi incident, how the right immediately seized on it and spun it so hard so as to have more ammunition against Hillary. It’s disgusting and depressing.
@Esmom, what drives me completely batsh!t crazy about Republicans and Benghazi is that they throughly ignore the fact that THEY successfully voted to cut $300 million dollars for embassy security. So conveniently forgotten and ignored. It riles me so that Dems don’t throw that in their faces every. time. they. utter. Benghazi.
I know, believe me. I’m not sure why Dems and the White House didn’t counter all that stuff and nip it in the bud early, I kept wanting to scram every time they sorta dismissed it because even I could tell early on it was not going to die. Big miscalculation.
NoSoSocialButterfly, did you hear what Ambassador Steven’s sister said about the Benghazi situation? Dr. Anne Stevens said:
“I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta (for Stevens’ death). They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world.”
“But what was the underlying cause? Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted. I would love to hear they are drastically increasing the budget.”
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/stevens-family-clinton-benghazi-interview/index.html
What a thoughtful and informed post, Almondmilk. Thank you.
Current rich white woman who spent the better part of her years as a privileged white guy, yes. Going through strife doesn’t make you any less stupid. Trump understand women!? Lmao. Maybe changing the batteries on the back of the robots he marries.
Oh yeah he’s so great for the LGBTQ community that his reaction to the Orlando massacre was patting himself on the back and creating further divisiveness.
Caitlyn, for the love of god stop talking.
Actually in this she is right about Hillary. You can tell who they are by their Geo political matters. Hillary has stated her 1st act as Perez would be Iran, tearing them down. But as soon as Trump goes against Muslim terrorists she is defending them. She voted yes for every single we, Iraq was her worst when Obama wanted to retrieve soldiers she wanted more. None of these politicians care about LGBT unless they’re one of them. I’ll vote for anyone but Hillary. Followed her for yrs n if u follow news non mainstream media u will not believe the shit storm she has brewing. Caitlyn might be off in a lot of issues but she knows The Clinton’s n trust me, no one wants them.
And your source for Hilary stating that her 1st act as *president would be “Iran, tearing them down” is…
Drumpf isn’t “going against Muslim terrorists”…he wants to ban any and all Muslims from entering the country and deport the ones that are here. there’s a subtle difference there that I think you may have missed.
“I’ll vote for anyone but Hillary.” Even the bloviating hate mongering air bag named Donald Trump? Girl, BYE.
Yeah the “shit storm”, like the results of the Benghazi two-year investigation? You know, the House Report that wasted taxpayers’ money and investigators’ time to appease butthurt Republicans only to reveal no wrongdoing on Clinton’s part?
Someone has been reading and bunch of crazy and false talking points.
Um, just no. Just effing no. Iran?!?!?
There is a huge difference between banning all Muslims from entering the US and “Clinton said the US faces a choice to either “move forward on a path to diplomacy or turn down more dangerous path leading to a far less certain and riskier future”.
The former secretary of state said the deal “blocks every pathway for Iran to get a bomb” and that it was “unrealistic” to get a better deal, as some opponents claimed was possible.
However, Clinton maintained her distrust for the Iranian regime. “I too am deeply concerned about Iranian aggression and need to confront it,” she said. “There is absolutely no reason to trust Iran.” Instead, she insisted her approach to dealing with Iran’s nuclear program would be “distrust but verify”.
Maybe you don’t get that….
This is why conspiracy sites on the internet are dangerous.
Also, why critical thinking skills should be mandatory in all schools, and proficiency tested alongside academic subjects.
@Fee
Listen, I get the Hillary aversion, I really do. She is the worst. She’s a liar and a criminal. But I’m going to vote for her, and I hope you will stop a moment and think before you vote for Trump. If Trump is elected, our already divided country will become even more divided and more violent. Trump gives people permission to be their worst, their most prejudiced and fearful and petty. He is not a leader. He will strain further, if not completely tank our economy. He has no idea of what he’s doing. His policy as a businessman was to make promises that he couldn’t keep, then file bankruptcy to stay afloat when his plans failed, as they almost always do. You can’t do that with the economy of a country. He won’t know what to do. He didn’t even know what Brexit WAS. We will the laughing stock of the world. You think people don’t take us seriously now? Wait until he is president. He hates women, gays, Hispanics, Muslims, anyone who isn’t a white male. He is represents everything that is callow and ugly about our country. Please reconsider. Hillary is the devil we know.
Considering the fact that Hillary leads Trump now by double digits, where do you get this convoluted idea that “no one wants” Hillary? You sound like a complete idiot.
I live in the UK – the only tiny sliver of silver lining I can see in the Brexit debacle is that people in the US who don’t like Clinton might understand how utterly disastrous a protest vote can be. If that misogynistic c*** and Boris both get in I plan to return to the antipodes.
Agree. Hilary will be another globalist warmonger disaster. I’ve had it with the Bush/Clinton/Obama messes.
For the love of God, don’t use crappy texting abbreviations unless you’re actually texting.
@Kitten – wasn’t it about $7M spent on the investigation – perhaps the 8th report will be the final.
As for Kait – whatever, she reeks of self-loathing…
Um…no. I heard on “Morning Joe” that Trey Gowdy is still summoning and interviewing witnesses.
I’m not surprised. He’s lost all credibility in his pursuit of turning a security investigation into a Clinton witch hunt. Clinton’s no princess, but she’s undeserving of eight investigations–all coming to the same conclusion. Some reports fit different pieces into the puzzle, but all came to the same conclusion.
Trey Gowdy is simply the latest incarnation of Ken Starr and Joe McCarthy.
And they dare claim to be fiscally conservative while wasting our money on witch hunts.
CMiddy, what a pithy and important point about the potentially dangerous effects of protest votes! If Trump wins, I may cast an eye toward the Antipodes myself.
Caitlyn Jenner seems to be very much a moron.
Even if Donald wasn’t socially conservative, being fiscally conservative is almost equally demaging to society as being socially conservative.
Morons come in all sexes, races, etc. No one group holds the exclusivity to the moron gene!
Yes and YES! It drives me bonkers when people insist they are “socially liberal but fiscally conservative.” It just doesn’t work that way.
Yes, It does. It means, for example, have all the abortions you need. I have no qualm with abortion upon demand. Just don’t expect others to pay for them. Take responsibility for the expenses you generate.
Those who are truly indigent or medically fragile get a pass, in my book. I’ll do my best to help them. But I’m tired of paying for other people’s choices, when, in fact, they have multiple options available to them.
…except abortions aren’t covered by the govt.
Sigh. Maybe you guys would sound less hypocritical and judgmental if you actually knew what the rules are of the thing you’re condemning. If making up stuff to hate on it is the way it goes then I dislike country clubs for the wealthy because they serve one living baby for every meal, divided equally among patrons.
@Triple Cardinal-To echo what ESE said, abortions haven’t received federal funding in over 30 years. Taxpayers, the government, do NOT pay for abortions.
Okay, Eternal, so my example of abortion was a poor one. It wasn’t hypocrisy, it was lack of research. My bad. But I see examples of moocher mentality even in my own family. Younger members who married when they couldn’t afford a spouse, and birthed when they couldn’t afford children. Bad choices made over and over again. There’s been blow-back in the form of financial extortion.
Had they made other decisions about their finances and employment, I wouldn’t have to pay–financially–for their poor choices. That’s my point. Do what you will with your life. Just don’t expect others to pay for it.
@ Triple Cardinal-I have a “friend” on social media who started a GoFundMe for her wedding. I won’t get into the details of her life but let’s just say she’s made some pretty terrible decisions along the way. She claims that she doesn’t “want” anything for her wedding but she “needs” money for the DJ, the flowers, and various decorations. Sigh.
On one hand she’s had some health issues that have really impeded her ability to work, but she also has three small kids that she clearly cannot adequately care for and has been jailed at least once. Additionally, her fiancée has been in and out of jail multiple times. I was sympathetic for a while (I can’t help it) but she lost me at the f*cking charity wedding crap. Go get married at a Justice of the Peace if you can’t afford a damn wedding. I understand the practical aspect of marriage but weddings are NOT a necessity.
Ugh.
Sorry for the tangent lol..you struck a nerve, apparently.
@Triple, please do some research on the Hyde Amendment immediately. It was passed FOUR DECADES ago and has NOT been repealed. You might also want to check out the welfare reform act of 1995 before you voice other extreme right wing talking points that pretend to ignore extreme right wing success stories. You got what you wanted a long, long time ago
Oh, Caitlyn, oh yes, how horrible that Obama pulled the economy out of the trash dump where his predecessor left it. As for what he did to the Constitution, uhm, what exactly would that be? He has done nothing to the Constitution.
I would love to chat with you a bit about how much your beloved Drumpf will do for us women but, well, he’s appearing at a hotel a block from my office this afternoon and I’ve got to decide what to wear to the protest. Need to look good in case I’m caught on camera.
Actually the debt was 12 trillion when Obama took office n is 20 trillion n growing. But they do send 6 billion a year to one country.
That is correct and the reason for this is that Pres. Bush spent $8 trillion off the books in war spending, Obama put it on the books for transparency to the american people. Look it up…
Do you think Bush’s policies stopped when Obama was sworn into office? Bush had many expensive programs (that he underfunded) that had to continue under Obama. The Iraq war for example. It took time to get everyone home. The medical costs associated with returning soldiers. All of these are costs from GWB’s policies, but they added to debt technically under Obama.
@sb that was a neat little trick the Bush pulled, wasn’t it?
B-b-but Fox News said….
if you’re so concerned about the debt, you shouldn’t vote for Drumpf.
if he tries to implement any of the policies he’s spoken about, the debt would increase by 11.5 TRILLION dollars (compared to 250 million dollars for Clinton). even Fox “News” reported that little tidbit.
(Study done by The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, in a report released on Monday called “Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election”)
I love when people forget facts. So let’s go in your path of thinking for a minute. Obama inherited 12 Trillion dollars of debt. Where pre-tell did that debt come from? What state was the economy in when Obama took office? Let’s rewind 16 years, darling when the US Government was at a surplus when George Bush took over. Let’s talk about the two wars he started that had to be paid for. Let’s talk about how he broke a nation and stuck us with feeding them. Let’s talk about how the economy was on a free fall, dismantling lives that will take a generation to get back. Obama had to spend money we did not have, to keep this country floating. Of course the debt went up. It’s how the government works. It pay for things by running a debt. Do you remember the fall of 2008, the entire year of 2009? I lived in fear of my job and watched friends lose theirs. Let’s not act as if Obama went on a 20 trillion dollar shopping spree. Think!!!!
@Fee, And where was unemployment? And the markets? The Bush family gave us three wars and trashed our economy twice. Long past time for their supporters to accept responsibility
THIS! Why can Republicans not accept that we are economically far better off now than before Mr. Obama came into office? All Obama seems to want to address with the Constitution is some actual gun restriction. President Bush was the one that took away a lot more of our freedom after 911
A lot of Republicans seem to have major cognitive dissonance with the economy under Obama, don’t they?
This and I just don’t get it.
And you sound like my dad..if get him going on this topic, he goes off the rails.
The problem is that people do not feel that they are better off. I’ve been very lucky without direct experience but I hear it every day and not just from politicians/media. Is it real or perceived? I don’t know but it is deeply engrained.
@ EM
That is exactly the issue. The economy is better as a whole, but the divide between have and have-nots continues to grow. It is undeniable that there is a rather large segment of the population being left behind as we continue down the road to complete digital/robotic revolution, and that segment is largely poor, under-educated, and white. Not for nothing, this is the heart of the GOP base, and who Trump appeals to most.
I hate saying things like “they don’t get it”, because on the whole I think people are pretty smart, but there is a huge blind spot when it comes to this that so many can’t see how the GOP is not working in their best interest. The GOP only benefits extremely rich white people.
17 million people in my country feel that way, and voted that way. They are well off enough, but they don’t feel it. They have been left behind, and the whole world is paying the price.
lilac, be careful! but also, YOU GO GIRL.
Former US Senator, Drumpf mouthpiece, misogynist jerk and Cosmo nude centerfold Scott Brown tried to shake my hand. He was not expecting my two word response, which I delivered in a clear voice, with a broad smile while wearing pumps and a lovely suit. The guys behind me cheered.
aw, yeah! that is great!!!
Lilacflowers, I think I love you.
Thank you!
I was coming here to ask ‘Obama changed the constitution!?”‘ Yeah….Cuz it goes through so many changes….
Queen Elizabeth had blazed your trail here! Bright colors and brooches! Then you know you’ll be seen!
All I’m aware of is the Republicans violating the constitution. Did that nomination ever go through or are they still unconstitutionally obstructing that?
Touche. I saw a funny Onion headline on the ridiculousness: “Mitch McConnell Has Hands, Vocal Cords Removed To Prevent Self From Holding Hearing On Scalia Replacement”
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.
I saw this headline, and thought, “wtf, Caitlyn?”
Then I read this: ” I’m not excited with what Obama has done to the economy, to our Constitution, all that kind of stuff.” I thought, “Oh, she is just an unthinking parrot.”
The cognitive dissonance is so strong, it makes me question whether this whole transgender process is a long- term relevance plan for the Kartrashian “empire”.
Wear red lilacflowers. And should you feel so inclined, please extend a middle finger salute for me.
See above, I gave former Senator Scott Brown a two word directive while he was trying to shake my hand. The second word was “you.”
Are you serious right now. Trump seems to be very much for women. This poor soul lost more than his manhood, he lost his damn mind.
I don’t disagree with her being a lost soul but your pronoun usage and reference to her genitals is crude and shameful.
Maria: I was hardly trying to be crude. Per usual, I phrased my comment poorly. I do, however, believe she is lost. For a woman to come to Trump’s defense bc of same sex toilets doesn’t make her a champion of the LGBT community……..I would have said the same thing about Bruce Jenner, uninformed and clueless.
OK she’s a privileged, clueless idiot, but that’s no excuse for misgendering her and making transphobic remarks.
A friend of mine went off on her SI cover on FB yesterday and made a minor, but valid point. After the Orlando tragedy, she barely made a squeak about what happened to the LGBTQ community. She has no obligation of course, but as the most visible trans woman out there you’d think she’d feel some sort of social responsibility, but nope.
Because the party line is that it was not about the LGBTQ community and it was not about easy access to powerful weapons. The party line was all about how this was Islamic terrorism and it would all go away if that evil Obama would just say the words “radical Islam.”
Caitlyn must toe the party line.
Why I cannot STAND her.
I truly get the feeling that Caitlyn only regurgitates Fox News talking points, and doesn’t really think about things on her own – unless it involves how it will benefit her (magazine covers, reality shows, etc).
That really was a moment to stand up for and stand with her fellow LGBTQ people, and she sat that one out.
Because Caitlyn has no interest in LBGTQ issues unless they impact her personally. Otherwise she doesn’t give a damn.
*ding ding ding ding ding*
in the media’s rush to proclaim her the NEW spokesperson for all trans issues they casually forgot the woman doesn’t actually give a damn about the LGBTQ community.
But sure lets see her on a few more magazine covers and talking about how Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are super supportive of that community.
Idiot doesn’t begin to cover it.
You nailed it, Merritt!
What a fool.
Sometimes the old clichés ring true. “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.”
Idiot.
“But Trump seems to be very much for women.”
You mean the same talking orange who has been accused twice of rape, who hung out with and gushed about Jeffrey Epstein, and who has made numerous sexist comments during his campaign? Yeah, I’m sure he’s great with women…
Caitlin can for vote whomever she chooses. But being an apologist for Trump’s brazen misogyny, racism, and ignorance is just vulgar.
Well said, Megan!
100 Megan. Everything you said is true and the words that prove it came right out of Trump’s own mouth. I could care less what Caitlyn Jenner says, but the fact Trump has so many supporters knowing what he stands for and against baffles the mind.
There you go, Megan! Exactly the heart of the matter. Thank you!
Of course he’s great for women – because he loves objectifying them. As Cait has told us over and over, the hardest part of being a woman is looking good. No surprise that she’d have such affection for a guy who thinks women are only worth however close to a “10” they score.
Matador: I’m sure this isn’t news, but I read a quote from Trump saying if a woman is flat chested, it’s impossible for her to be a “10.” He rates us on a scale, we’re not good enough if we’re not busty. This is a man who has two exes and a wife and two daughters. How did he get this far. I can’t fathom how it is possible. Not a huge fan of Hillary, but I will be at the polls at 7 am giving her my vote.
Agree Matador. Trump and Caitlyn’s views of what it means to be a woman are consistent in that way.
Right. Drumpf is so great for women that he has to freak out about how gross it is that women have bodily functions and use the restroom. I guess Melania convinced him that she does not need to digest food.
he also referred to a woman breastfeeding as “disgusting”.
yeah, a real champion of women, that guy.
Once an ahole, always an ahole.
Just because Trump will let you use the women’s bathroom in Trump Towers (and she took him up on it) doesn’t mean he is behind the LGBTQ community. As far as women for Trump – they’re on this earth for one reason for him – arm candy.
Sadly that’s about as deep as her understanding seems to go. She’s horrible.
This isn’t a woman’s issue–Trump is an entitled, thin-skinned bully with the impulse control of an adolescent. .that isn’t good for anyone.
What a disappointment she must be to other transgender women. She is still unable to empathize with peoples who are discriminated against even though she is now most likely experiencing it herself.
I doubt (my opinion) that she is experiencing discrimination as other transgender women do.
I should also add transgender men because they receive the discrimination also.
Ooookay, Caitlyn. Keep telling yourself that! Wonder what type of America she imagines when she hears “make America great again” ? Because according to her party and presidential candidate, there is no place for her in their vision of America.
She’s such a moron, almost as much of one as Donald Trump is.
Oh shut up, Cait. You’re a fool.
Wow, she really is as dumb as a rock.
Caitlyn is a delusional dingbat… Christ- has she always been such an ass?
Yes. I mean, look at who she married.
Yes. The only difference is that she can no longer shift all the blame onto Kris. Prior to the divorce and transition, Caitlyn had mastered the “poor Bruce routine”.
Isn’t that the truth.
That thing that Caitlyn is feeling right now…that little flutter in her body…that’s called privilege. And as far as she knows…privilege does not disappear simply by changing gender. All she knows is RICH and WHITE. The gender is of no consequence.
I always wondered if putting her on some pedestal was the best idea. There is no disputing that it is soul killing to live your life as someone you are not, and she justly deserves respect for making the change in such a public manner. That being said, she was never very truthful to her first two wives, and wasn’t exactly a concerned parent then or now. Not surprised she exhibits the empathy of a gnat.
All of the above.
The media should just let some people (figuratively) die. Take Sarah Palin with you.
They never should have, now the LGBT community hates her and the media features her when they need a scandal or something to mock. Note how she went from being everywhere to NOWHERE oh so quickly.
She sounds like an uninformed idiot. Unfortunately they get a vote too.
BIG +1 to this.
Bruce Jenner was a self-absorbed moron most of the time. Why did people expect Caitlyn to be any better? And having spent more than 60 years of her life as a white, rich, privileged jock, when could she have learned any different?
I wonder if some of that Botox seeped into her brain.
It is sad that so many of you resort to such nasty name-calling. She has a right to support anyone she wants.
And anyone that supports Hillary apparently doesn’t follow the news. Uninformed voters…
And people have the right to call her out for it. She’s a public figure. If you support Dobakd Trump, you’re either a moron, or evil and egoistical. End of.
the other option is that people would rather see their country go down in flames than vote for Clinton. very patriotic.
/sarcasm
What news would that be?
Do you see what’s happening in downtown right now, Lilac?
All the protestors outside of Trump’s fundraiser at the Langham and bomb squad out in full-force.
My favorite sign was “scientific illiteracy kills” lol.
She has the right to support anyone, she also has the right to be criticized for when she displays an uninformed and ignorant opinion. The uninformed voters bit has been sung from the Bells of Notre Dame ad infinitum and it still doesn’t change that many of us aren’t single issue voters and we care a lot more about several topics we NEED to see a democrat address rather than a man still blissfully wading in the muck of privelaged social class and ingrained racism and sexism.
If these issues are not your main concern or you feel someone can address them better then vote for that person.
She certainly does. But it would be better if she was remotely grounded in reality.
“Bleeding from her whatever.” Yes. These are the words of a great man. And definitely not someone with a problem with women.
HILLARY 2016
It’s precisely *because* I follow the news that I support Hillary, thanks.
It’s Caitlyn’s right to support Trump. It’s my right to guffaw loudly if Caitlyn tries to tell me Trump is stronger on LGBT issues than Clinton.
Caitlyn is all about Caitlyn. this is not a surprise, she has put her needs first her entire life. living a life you feel is wrong must be horrible but she showed no respect to her wives or children. Caitlyn never experienced growth on how to deal with her issues, she just moved on to another family. she is fundamentally selfish.
Let’s see. “She has the right to support anyone she wants” and scold us about nasty name-calling. Then you say Hillary supporters are “uninformed voters”. Irony much?🤔😒
It’s so funny because I typed out the same reply but deleted it because I don’t feel like getting into it today.
But it was almost word-for-word what you wrote lol.
Irony is being served up cold today, chilled in a glass tinged as orange as Trump’s skin tone with two large olives for the drinker to shove in their ears and feign ignorance like Caitlyn.
Damn that was downright poetic, ESE.
*curtsies*
If you’re not already, you really should do something (I’m talking professionally) that combines writing, activism, and educating.
You’re such a talented writer but you’re equally gifted at imparting knowledge.
*this episode of Unsolicited Professional Advice From an Internet Stranger brought to you by Kitten*
When I watched the early episodes of her show, it seemed to me that her thinking/psychology is off somehow. There was a narcissism that was both surprising and disturbing. it is telling that she’s isolated from that family now. I think she made some bad choices. In other words, I’m not surprised about her latest statements about Trump. Frankly, she seems kinda dumb.
Let me get this straight. A person who has exercised ultimate control of her body to turn it from a man’s into a woman’s thinks Trump, a man who wants to literally punish cis women for exercising control of their own bodies, would be great…for women.
I’ve got things to say about this that most definitely are not allowed here.
Thank you Kaiser!!! Well stated.
wow. she sounds like my friend who insists they are about women’s rights, and equality for all, but HAS to vote conservative/republican because of “economics”.
sure, jan.
sure.
At least they have a semi-valid reason (whether it’s true or not) for choosing, and isn’t like some people I know who just CAN’T vote for Hillary because it’ll spell doom for the country 😒
Your friend should take a closer look at Kansas. Republican economic ‘genius’ writ large.
Kansan here. We are F*CKED. Welcome to Brownbackistan, purveyors of Koch Puppetry.
omfg, pabena6. OMFG. that is so sad, but hot damn did i ever laugh my arse off at your wording. win, my friend, win.
and mich: yup. cognitive dissonance…and sheer willful ignorance…
What else would you expect from her? She’s the epitome of white privilege. Why does anyone care what she thinks? She is not an advocate for the trans community; only herself in typical Kardashian/Jenner fashion. Just go away & live your nice country club life.
You’re exactly right. We shouldn’t care what she thinks. The sooner the media stops giving her attention and a platform to air her ignorance, the better.
As a WOMAN born and raised that comment is the most offensive thing. For that bastard to say that Trump is good for women, when he consistently demeans, degrades and demoralizes women makes me sick.
Guess what Caitlin if you are a woman you don’t get to just the fun part of beautiful clothes and make up!
1. You get less pay.
2. You get to be told by a Presidential candidate that your value is on your knees
3. You get to be at risk of being raped ever 2 minutes and if you are you will get to be put on trial and if your attacker happens to be a white middle class Stanford swimmer he’ll get 3 months!! While you get life dealing with your violation!!!
4. You get to be called a whore for needing birth control even for medical reasons.
5. You have to pay tax on tampons while MEN don’t for VIAGRA!!
6. You will get to watch 6 year old children massacred and not see any gun regulation but your reproductive organs will be legislated constantly.
The list goes on and on and on. So if you want to speak to what it is to be a woman then actually learn because it isn’t just hair and make up you sexist asshole. So since you don’t care shut up.
THIS so perfectly stated, thank you
Well said, k!!
k, I love a righteous rant and yours delivered in spades. +1 million to every thing you said.
Wild applause!
Bravo, k. Incredibly well said. I feel your rage!!!
K, I wish Caitlyn could read your post, though somehow from the utter cluelessness exhibited in what she says, I sort of doubt she reads ANYTHING. But thanks for putting the perfect response to her nonsense so perfectly and succinctly.
PS) Did you by any chance take your screen name from Kafka’s protagonist, K,, in THE TRIAL?
Big media, multinational companies, big Pharma they own these politicians. That’s who they’re working for. Not us the little people. They don’t care about lesbians, gays or transgender either. I can say that’s the only thing I like about Trump. He’s only working for himself.
“I can say that’s the only thing I like about Trump. He’s only working for himself.”
I see that you missed today’s headlines accusing Trump of seeking illegal campaign contributions from foreign politicians.
Hell this summer alone he only contributed 100K of his own money to his campaign, the additional $3.7M came from unsolicited donors. I’m sure you’re not naïve enough to believe that these donors don’t have special interests in mind.
I’m not from the US so not always aware of your headlines. But do you not think there is a conspiracy within the Democrat and Republican parties to take Trump down? He’s a party of one don’t you think? And a threat to established politicians who are bribed,paid by big corporations to look after their interests. Do you think the media is threatened by Trump and their reporting is honest and true? I’m not trying to be facetious, only curious. This could affect many. I don’t think there’s too many honest politicians out there and we the peons are at their mercy. It’s scary!
@Kitten, just walked through Posr Office Square as the motorcade was loading up to leave Drumpf’s fund raising event. Didn’t see his orange-ness but his ardent supporter Scott Brown tried to shake my hand. He seemed a bit shocked when I told him what he could do to himself
@Lilacflowers-So funny..I came back here to ask you if you saw all the craziness and actually replied to you up-thread before I saw this. I didn’t see Trump either. Too bad you didn’t have a copy of this on hand: http://a.abcnews.com/images/Politics/ht_scott_brown_cosmo_100121_ssh_ssh.jpg
Could have asked for Brownie’s autograph 😉
@Joanie-You’re right that there aren’t too many honest politicians out there but Trump is certainly not one of them.
Put it this way: a dishonest businessman doesn’t go into politics and suddenly become honest.
I don’t think there’s a media and/or political conspiracy against Trump but I also don’t think he represents anything new or groundbreaking. He went from -17 in the favorability polls to +35 after he made the speech about building a wall to keep Mexican immigrants out. In other words, he was not well-liked by most Americans, regardless of political affiliation, until he appealed to the racist and xenophobic folks. Additionally, he’s the most fervently pro-gun candidate our country has ever seen so of course, the gun nutters love His Orange Highness.
But aside from his remarkable ability to prey upon people’s fears/phobias/insecurities as well as his unremarkable (AKA nonexistent) political experience, he’s still the same ol’ same ol’ in terms of conservative candidates.
@Kitten, I know several women who worked as Senate committee aides when he was in the MA Senate, that is when he occasionally deigned to show up for work in the MA Senate, and he gave them autographed copies of that for Christmas presents. He autographed the hand. That is all kinds of wrong under the EEOC and MA sexual harassment in the workplace laws, but yes, that is what the voters of Massachusetts chose to represent us for a few years. Thank God, people came to their senses and we threw him out for Elizabeth Warren.
And this is his wife, who protected him from close media scrutiny until he self-immolated against Warren. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLvwc3W_KwM
Just got himself a 2million dollar ad campaign from the NRA
I don’t even know why I’m surprised by this. As I said above, he is the most fervently pro-gun presidential candidate this country has ever seen.
He’s awful.
Donald isn’t working for you or the “little people” either. He’s working for his own wealth but running to work for the American people. There is a BIG disconnect there.
For example, he thought the GBP’s value dropping off a cliff would be good for his golf course, ignoring the fact that it would hurt US exports to the UK. He only sees his own profit, and does not understand government is there to work FOR the people.
Yeah, except, he’s really not for women. But then again, neither is Hillary. Anyone who thinks either one of these people is for anyone other than themselves needs professional psychiatric help.
changed my mind and chose to be charitable.
The best shade is the shade not said. Well done.
ellen, and ese:
this is my current mantra…lol.
ellen, thanks.
<3
Trump FOR women??? He needs to give his head a shake!
So I see a few commenters feel it’s ok to misgender someone if you don’t agree with their opinions or don’t like them? OK, werk.
For everyone’s reference, check out Rachel Maddow’s 2-minute list of everything the Obama administration has done for LGBT rights as of May 2012:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrYZx0LF0kQ
And then there is all the stuff Hillary did as Secretary of State for women’s and girls’ rights around the world–to a degree never done by any of the past (mostly male) secretaries of state–and throughout her career.
http://shewinswewin.org/blog/5-times-hillary-put-women-and-girls-first-as-secretary-of-state/
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/factchecks/2016/02/11/hillary-clinton-is-a-champion-for-women-and-girls/
Yeah right Cait, let’s just ignore his actual words and actions and play make-believe, kind of like you do. Listen to him yesterday, whining about how everyone is “raping” the country, nice how he casually tosses that word around like it’s no big deal. Go ahead and vote for your disgusting orange hero, when it all blows up in your face you’ll have even less credibility than you do now, which is almost none.
What’s sad is that the trans community deserve better than this self-absorbed, delusional moron. She is no spokesperson. Her so called ‘learning’ and education is going nowhere because her mind is walled off, and except for the pretty clothes and make up and plastic surgery, she’s always going to be a privileged, ignorant & arrogant, 60-year-old republican white male in her heart.
Clearly, Caitlyn is still thinking with her dick.
wow. Some people really should not give interviews.