These are some photos of Ivanka Trump on Day 4 of the RNC, the final night. Ivanka attended every day of the RNC, but she was given the honor of introducing her father the final night. While I thought Ivanka did a good job with her speech – mostly because she sounded like a Democrat – most people probably won’t even remember what she said because her father’s speech was so long, so negative, so dictatorial and so crazy.
Still, much like Michelle Obama, people are interested in what Ivanka wears. For her big speech, Ivanka chose this summery and feminine sleeveless dress in a pale pink. Considering she just gave birth to her third child in March, I thought she looked put-together and pretty, and the dress was reasonably flattering. Okay, if I’m being nitpicky, I thought she could have chosen something with better tailoring, but I also thought the fact that it wasn’t perfectly tailored was the point: she’s just like us, she wears off-the-rack.
Well, funny story. Her dress is still being discussed, but not because she made such a major fashion impact. The dress is from the Ivanka Trump Collection, which is sold at Macy’s, Bloomingdale’s, Nordstrom and more. She even tweeted about it, including a link to where you can buy the dress online (it’s already sold out).
Shop Ivanka's look from her #RNC speech: https://t.co/ma42A92DYa #RNCinCLE pic.twitter.com/DwHvSOu8Ue
— Ivanka Trump (@IvankaTrump) July 22, 2016
So what’s the problem? Beyond the fact that I think it’s slightly tacky that she’s hustling her clothing line while attending events on behalf of her father’s campaign, there’s an even bigger problem for the Trumps. Donald Trump talks about how he’s going to bring back manufacturing to America, even though most of his own Trump-branded stuff is made overseas with cheaper labor. Well, like father, like daughter. Ivanka’s RNC dress was not made in America. New York Magazine’s The Cut did some digging: nothing from the Ivanka Trump Collection is made in America. Notably, Donald Trump stopped eating Oreos because Nabisco moved one of their plants to Mexico. Trump said at the time that Nabisco’s move was brutal because it’s “such an American company.” Guess we should start saying that The Ivanka Trump Collection is un-American.
Photos courtesy of Getty, WENN.
Ivanka sells over 800 items with her name on them. NONE of these items is made in the U.S.
Of course not. Domestic manufacturing is for the little people.
@Megan It’s not that domestic manufacturing is for the little people, it’s that it’s more expensive. Americans have grown accustomed to buying cheap clothes, which is why so much is manufactured in China. Most people don’t want to spend, say, $150 or more on a dress, which is often the case when buying American. I don’t want to support sweatshop labor, so I buy a lot of stuff made in the U.S. I also buy clothing and accessories made in Italy. Everlane works with some Chinese factories that seem reputable, so I will buy from them, but I try to avoid Chinese manufactured clothes most of the time. I recommend the book Overdressed by Elizabeth Cline, if you’re interested in more on this topic.
@WTW – I was making a joke by referring a Leona Helmsley quote in which she basically said the rules are different for the rich. As in, do what I say, not what I do.
@WTW
Everlane is a great company to buy from. You can actually look at their factories and see how they price and produce.
They are one of a few ethical businesses. Another great site for ethical wares is Beed & Reel
As for the trump disaster, all I’ve got is a big SIIIGGHHH
and most are pretty ugly.
her dresses that I’ve seen at L&T have cute/pretty prints but then she adds some REALLY UGLY zipper, right across the bodice/skirt and it looks SO cheap. and it’s not some subtle thing, it’s a huge gold-colored zipper, the kind that you’d see on luggage.
It looks cheap bc it is cheap. Any exposed zippers on clothing are an instant giveaway to cheap manufacturing. Zippers that are hidden take more time which equal more cost. Also the fabric blends in her line are super cheap too.
Agreed, doofus. I dress for work every day and in theory her stuff should be right up my alley. But it comes off as cheap and tacky, like they cut corners on fabric and trim.
Sb.. didn’t Kate Middleton recently wear a dress with an exposed zipper that was ripped here on CB? I’m assuming it was not manufactured in the UK nor was it cheap.
I remember when it was a fashion trend for exposed zippers – it was a thing just like having red soled shoes.
and Sb, I didn’t even mean a functional zipper that is exposed, like you’re talking about (like one that runs up the back of a dress).
I mean that there is a completely NONfunctional zipper, that does NOTHING, right in the middle of the dress. it’s purely for decoration.
Adele, agree…I though, “oh, that’s a cute print/dress to wear to work in the summer” and then saw the zipper and was like UGH. plus, it FELT cheap. I compared it to the Ralph Lauren dresses that were similar in style and fabric and the RL dresses were so much nicer. and not that much more $.
The Lord and Taylor website has a good selection of her sheath dresses with concealed zips, which look pretty good. From the computer you obviously cannot touch the material, but the selection looks pretty good to me…
http://www.lordandtaylor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/en/lord-and-taylor/brand/ivankatrump/womens-apparel/wa-dresses
Why would it be?
Why would anyone believe anything associated with this man of his family is anything other than manipulative, conniving, and entirely interested in its own paycheck?
Her dress isn’t made in America, Trump still employs overseas immigrants for pennies a day, and I’m sure in the privacy of his office he eats as many Oreos as he wants.
You stated it better than would. Which is right now to just say, well, duh. I feel bad for people who think Donald has some populist notions. It’s just so obviously not what his deal is.
Can you just imagine how that crass a$$hat would redecorate the White House??
Everything would look like Trump’s penthouse at Trump Tower and TRUMP would be engraved on everything, including the White House china.
Did you SEE the stage when he gave his speech? Gold and TRUMP was all you could see!
+1
Exactly. Anyone who believes a word coming out of this family’s face is in for a huge disappointment.
so no different than anything coming from the Clinton family’s mouths then, right?
@Cricket. Sigh. Except that by every measure Hillary is about as honest as a politician can be. Trump, on the other hand, lies so much – the “pants on fire” designation fact checkers use – I don’t even think he knows he’s doing it. It’s pathological. He literally believes the feces he spews.
Betsy.. if you seriously think Hillary is about as honest as a politician can be then the whole world is in serious trouble.. they ALL lie to advance their narrative which is lining their pockets with money, power and control.
Seriously, Cricket, what are your sources? By every measure of a politician, she’s about as honest as they come. Tim Kaine is right up there with her.
Trump? Good. god.
@Cricket
Deflecting and getting off topic doesn’t do much to help your cause.
Clinton has been repeatedly called out and yes to people who do actual political fact checking they have found she tells the truth significantly more than Trump.
@Cricket – take the list of “alleged crimes”, review them objectively and you will find that they are nothing but RNC BS and misstatements. I am not a Clinton fan but I respect her perseverance and ability not to loose her s**t because I would have lost it long ago. These jokers, including Trump, have been crucifying her for two reasons (1) her name is Clinton and (2) she is a strong woman. She’s not perfect but she has actually worked her a** off to get where she is.
@EM, Amen.
Maybe we should tell The Donald that Hydrox is back now…. Or he could get Paul Newman O’s.
Somehow I doubt Trump supporters will care. They will ignore this fact as it does not fit the narrative
They don’t care because a lot (not the racist bunch that were his initial base) believe that Trump understands their issues and worse that Clinton is disconnected and the status quo. Frankly, I think the Clinton campaign is doing a horrible job and we will be seeing President Trump in our future (one poll today has him in the lead). Clinton’s campaign is following the 90’s campaign play book when they should have tossed it out and adapted for a very unusual election year.
Every campaign get a bump after their convention. I’m going out on a limb and say Democrat will get as big a bump or better after this convention.
@EM I hate to say it, but I completely agree with you. She is running her campaign like an insider politician and that’s exactly what people don’t really want. I really hope she will hone her message soon and have a more inspiring campaign.
I’ve always used the adjective “donald trump-ish” when describing something cheap and gaudy an air of pseudo elitism. Smarmy is synonymous with this one.
Only fools believe the Trumps give a damn about anyone or anything other than themselves and their wallets.
Amen. All you have to do is compare the Trump/Pence interview on 60 Minutes last week and the Clinton/Kaine interview last night on 60 Minutes.
Wow. Donald talked over everybody and did not instill confidence. I felt so sorry for Pence. It was a mess of an interview and shows exactly why he shouldn’t be POTUS. Hillary’s interview showed her at her best. She is much better one on one in interviews or Town Hall meetings than in speeches. She was brilliant, warm, and you can tell she cares about this country and issues. And she gave Kaine plenty of room to speak and shine and show they make a great team and complement one another.
Trump, on the other hand, with Pence was a mess. Poor Pence looked like he realized he was in a nightmare and couldn’t wake up as he tried to interject or help Trump in the interview, supporting him, but Trump just barreled through with his nonsense talk, and over Leslie Stahl also. I don’t agree with Pence on issues, but at least he kept his dignity and tried. But he didn’t stand a chance sitting next to Donald. Plus, the little he was able to talk he couldn’t come up with an answer on issues he had criticized Trump on and just talked around it and then Trump would barrel over him again.
Trump is a megalomaniac and has always been a hypocrite in this election. I agree with others. It’s all about self-promotion. So the Ivanka thing doesn’t surprise me.
jayna, I completly agree, what a contrast between the two. I thought Hillary did a great job compared to Trump, her whole rollout was very professsional and well done. I just hope these recent emails dont ruin the convention. And I agree, no surprise with Ivanka, shes just like him in every way, all his kids are.
Pence actually believes what he says, so you won’t see the vacillating back and forth that you get with Trump. He’ll be consistent. Of course, that means people better listen carefully to what Pence says because he will indeed try to implement such things as policy and The Donald seems to be planning to hand over domestic and foreign policy to the VP so as not to cut into his golfing time.
But it was good to hear Pence not fall into line with Trump’s idiocy about McCain. Honestly, only Trump would think it was a good idea to diss somebody for being captured as a POW… OK, objectively McCain was a criminal planning to drop bombs on a city (although with US government approval, admittedly making it hard for the pilot to understand that at the time) and I can think of plenty of things to complain about in McCain’s later behavior through the decades. But getting captured after he crashed was not one of those things. Being a POW for years is absolutely no fun at all and in McCain’s case also greatly increased his skin cancer risk. Trump thinks he knows a lot about the military because he was shipped off to military school. But he knows nothing about the realities of war, which makes him especially dangerous.
@nicole. I just hope the butthurt Bernie supporters don’t cause excessive amounts of trouble(more than they already have). I was around in 1968 and I’m certain that the chaos at the Dem convention contributed to electing the “law & order” candidate. That and the Repubs Southern Strategy and their coded bigotry messages.
It’s actually Hillary’s fault that anything negative about this girl has been leaked- of course Hilary is jealous and put out this information.
Jealous!
Can’t stand this money-grubbing hypocrite.
Shea
Ivanka is a white blonde money grubbing hypocrite but she gets gets a pass .
ok not for nothing I hate all things Trump, he is a liar, a racist, a facisit, a xenophobe, and just horrible.
but Ivanka isn’t running for anything. She is running a business and made a decision to make her clothes over seas which the vast majority of companies do, and the do this because the MARKET DEMANDS it, and it is how she can be profitable. Now I admit to not listening to her speak but has she promised to make her clothes in America? I don’t believe she has. Her father is a pig and a hypocrite but I don’t think she made any promises that she needs to be held to.
Now where I will have an issue is if Trump only “punishes” “select” companies for not making goods in the US and Ivanka gets no “punishment” then that will be an issue. But as of now when he is off screaming at the wind I don’t think she should have to redo her business model because he is being an idiot.
the problem, k, is that she is acting as an advocate/spokeswoman for a campaign whose platform is “make America Great Again” and has railed against sending jobs/manufacturing overseas.
she’s done this while profiting from sending jobs/manufacturing for her company overseas.
surely you can see the hypocrisy there.
If she were just “doing business” and not actively campaigning, I’d say let her be, but she put herself in the middle of this clusterf*ck and now she and her business dealings are fair game.
and Doofus I totally do see that point, I just think calling her scum/money grubbing is a bit much. I think it is totally fair to question them on the fact they play this up and don’t make any of their products in the US, I think they should be heavily questioned on this.
I think when he mentions “punishments” for certain companies the media should be all over it if that would include his and his daughters etc.
This all being said as a liberal I personally am very pro trade and see nothing wrong with over sea manufacturing as long as companies live up to the manufacturing/factory standards. I mean the reality is the companies make these choices because the market demands it. People could buy American made product but the actively chose not to, and they constantly push companies to go cheaper and cheaper. If you think that isn’t true then watch how many people walk into H&M with a coupon.
I buy American made products but I know it costs more, but for me that is worth it for the manufacturing jobs and a lot of quality often.
I find it sickening that she used the convention to promote her line of clothing and showed a complete lack of awareness given they are made overseas. I wish the republicans had come up with a decent candidate. I definitely would have considered voting republican. I wish Trump supporters would wake up and realize everything that he does or says is based in deception and, yes, he’s worse than Hillary. He’s not the man they wish he was, unless your a racist xenophobe, I guess.
Trump’s entire campaign has been about self promotion. Don’t expect anything different from his kids.
So Hillary sending classified emails about our NATIONAL SECURITY isn’t a problem, but self promotion (like Michelle and Barack doing late night shows) is ok?
I don’t understand. If she doesn’t know how email works, why would you want her in charge? Go Bernie!
Cassie, Bernie endorsed Clinton, he’s out of the running. I’m beginning to tire of Bernie bros constantly ragging on Clinton, you’re only helping the Great Orange Dictator into office with your constant whining.
Your preferred candidate didn’t win, get over it.
Okay, doing a talk show where you are discussing things that affect the nation, or even just letting people have some insight into your everyday life, is a lot different than using your political campaign to hock your cheap wares – on which you reap a profit. Trump isn’t interested in being a good leader for his country. He’s only interested in himself and what the office can do for him. Not what he can do for the country.
Yeah , the majority of the population doesn’t understand how email REALLY works. You wouldn’t believe the amount of support calls I had to transfer to the email team during my year on the phones for website support. I’m willing to bet that a lot of people in her age range don’t fully understand email – and have no idea what POP3, SMTP, and IMAP are. Most don’t understand how servers work, or how data is stored either. Not just that age group, but people in general. Unless you have a reason to know more (your job, or schooling) you’re not going to delve into the tech side of email. Hell, I worked IN support and only have a limited knowledge base when it comes to email.
So being a lying orange turd who yells about bringing back jobs to America when he has all his crap manufactured in sweat shops overseas (as does Ivanka) is OK?
Where is he going?
Hillary used a private server, set up when it was not against the rules. There was plenty of precedent for doing it this way. The rules changed in an attempt to make it harder for classified information to leak, but there is no evidence that this happened. Yes, she should have followed the new protocol. But I can also see why it would not have seemed important at the time to make a change right then and there.
E-mail is just not secure unless you take some heavy duty precautions such as encoding with keys. A lot of people have the illusion that your message travels directly from your computer to the recipient’s computer (or phone, these days) rather than bouncing from server to server. The message can be intercepted or lost or delayed anywhere along the way or even delivered to the wrong person (after one ISP upgrade, I was receiving someone else’s mail for days). I can understand trying to tighten up procedures but also understand why many people really don’t understand why it’s needed.
If you want to worry about something, consider that Donald Blabbermouth Trump is now receiving regular security briefings. Heaven help us…
The Obamas go on Late Night shows to promote initiatives! They aren’t selling juice. Also Michelle is the First Lady that is what her job is to be the PR/Face of the White House/Nation. It is her JOB!!! She was cleared of any wrong doing in the email thing and frankly our choices are Hillary and Trump. So a racist vs. Hillary and it not a choice. It is about protecting the future of America. I don’t like Hilary that much but honest to God we have no options.
Bernie Lost, by 3million votes it is over time to move on.
“Hillary used a private server, set up when it was not against the rules. There was plenty of precedent for doing it this way.”
THIS!!!^^^^^^^
Big whoop. Why are we discussing this? Of COURSE it wasn’t produced in the U.S. This family is about money and nothing else. None of that will matter to the people who will vote for him. Facts are so annoying.
But to be fair to her, she can’t be expected to suddenly have her stuff made in the U.S. just because daddy went and decided to spread the hate. But then she shouldn’t appear alongside him either. Also, the cut of that dress is horrendous.
I am just waiting for the debates tbh. Trump supporters won’t care if his lies/stupidity gets exposed in one off instances like this, but in one sitting against Hillary? Maybe the moderates will listen.
I’ll be surprised if he debates.
Annie, you raise an interesting point.
I have no doubt that Clinton would crush him in debates. when it comes to actual topics and policy, he’s got nothing and knows nothing. she would run circles around him.
so, will he find some excuse to NOT debate her? though that’d be death to most candidates, his supporters would eat it up. (“they’d just ask ‘gotcha’ questions anyway, and it would be so unfair and biased…blahblahblah”)
maybe he’ll do one, use it as an opportunity it call her a liar a bunch of times, insult her in every way he can, and then refuse to do another because of the “bias” of the mods?
If he does that then wouldn’t he would make himself look bad to the people he needs the votes from the most? And then how would it look when Pence debates, but he doesn’t. What’s the excuse gonna be then?
Ugh this man gives me a headache. 😑
He’ll debate, and he will declare himself the winner of everyone. Debate negotiations between the parties are typically quite intense. It will be interesting to see who will moderate. With Ailes out at Fox, Trump could be looking at a far tougher set of questions than he faced in the primaries.
Annie I wonder if he will too.
1. He knows he will lose, and to a “girl” can’t have that.
2. If he doesn’t he will look weak.
I am leaning to he will but he will do what he did to Rubio and Cruz and call her a name, he won’t be able to take it if she makes him look stupid and she will.
@Lynnie I could see if Trump does refuse to debate having Pence refuse to debate. It would be unbelievable but I can see the tweets now about the bias media.
I’m sure he will and he’ll just hurl insults at Hillary and won’t let her get a word in. Isn’t that how he operates? He never says HOW he’s going to make America great just why it isn’t. I saw the interview with Hillary and I’m not a fan, just looking at the lesser of 2 evils at this point and something she said stuck with me; she’s going to start talking about HOW she’s going to fix things not complain about who broke it and how it’s broken. God that’s what I hate most about campaign season, all the ads about how the other guys broke everything so we should elect someone else because he’s not the other guys.
Donald, and ivanka make their clothes overseas, yet Donald is talking about bringing back jobs in America. When is he going to start by example and not using $1 an hour slave foreign labor. They are all about the money.
Did anyone hear that the FBI is saying the email leak of the DNC was done by Russia, AND THEY ARE TRYING to influence our election in favor of Donald a Trump. Trump campaign manager, Maneford, sp workers for Russia. I am very afraid of this man Donald Trump . He is evil and is a danger to this country. I believe we should all stop being so laid back and see what this man is capable of.
Yes, and it doesnt surprise me at all, the Republicans want the Bernie supporters to vote for Trump instead of Hillary, so I think the timing is pretty fishy, and they are behind this is some way to make trouble at the convention.
The leak was apparently done by a Russian, but if so I would think more likely an independent Russian hacker than someone on Putin’s payroll. Lots of good computer programmers in Russia, and hackers hack just for the hack, er, heck of it, to prove they can do it. The payoff wasn’t much in this case and too convoluted for a foreign government.
If Putin wants to promote Trump, he can fund terrorist activity closer to the election so The Donald can hysterically shout that only he can save us. ISIS likewise will probably do something with that in mind. Trump is the best recruiter they could hope for (fomenting hatred of Muslims is ideal for radicalizing those who are borderline) and Trump will bring chaos here and anywhere else he can – precisely what ISIS wants. The Donald is just out for The Donald, but in his stupidity he routinely plays into the hands of the terrorists.
According to the FBI the leaked email came out of Putin office. Donald just love Putin, he’s always talking him up of how strong he is and how weak our president is. Even the news people on cnn are saying this may be very serious.
According to the FBI the leaked email came out of Putin office. Donald just love Putin, he’s always talking him up of how strong he is and how weak our president is. Even the news people on cnn are saying this may be very serious.
I wonder why the data wonks haven’t shown how much it will cost the consumer for the goods Trump wants to bring back to America? It would be interesting to have a breakdown of the cost of an iPad, TV, clothing, etc.
Do you remember the flap a few years ago with Papa Johns Pizza? The owner was saying it was impossible, impossible I say, to pay his employees a living wage.
This was happening as he was pledging to give away a free pizza to a million people on Super Bowl Sunday or some such ridiculousness. And I feel like someone did the calculations and an extra dime price per pizza would effectively raise their wage to something liveable or approaching it.
I do, Betsy. Good point.
Maybe moving production to the US wouldn’t make a dent, but I cannot imagine the yuge ( : P ) difference in the cost of labour and materials between Asia/ India and the US. That’s why those companies build and make their products overseas.
I couldn’t get past the fan blowing her hair or when her daddy came out he put his hands on her hips. She may be the Marilyn Munster of the family, but she is still a Trump and pimping her clothes is so Trumpish and predictable. Would she garner the thunder she receives if she wasn’t attractive. Doubt it. Don’t forget to vote people, this could be the First Family.
“Marilyn Munster of the family”
Well done @Nancy. Love it.
Marilyn Munster, brilliant!
Marilyn Munster = perfection!! Also, goes to show you that money does not buy class. This family is so crass.
The whole family are the most fake I have ever seen, not one of them are likeable, and Marilyn Munster brilliant ha!
Well, she did speak on Munster Night with Grampa Ted Cruz Munster and Eddie Paul Ryan Munster.
the way he touched her was SO GROSS.
and I noticed how stiff her arms were as she greeted him; she was literally holding him at arm’s length. she’s probably used to him groping her.
Yes, I noticed that too! And how she flinched when he touched her hip. So disturbing.
There is a gif floating around that replays his patting / hip touching and how quickly she pulls back.
Amazing how his comments about her (not to mention his divorces – usually a big deal to ultra conservatives) seemingly go unnoticed by his supporters.
@Kristin – his supporters won’t be bothered. The Duck Dynasty grandpa was shown in a speech to tell a church gathering to marry girls at 15 because they are the most docile at that age. And then there are the Duggars.
Giving credit to the originator…
“Trump, of course, was introduced by his lovely daughter Ivanka. You know, Marilyn Munster,” quipped Maher. “The one they let open the door so strangers don’t see all the monsters at once. Ivanka said her father has always been there for her—although sometimes she wishes he would sleep in his own bed.” Bill Mahar
@allison: Great minds think alike! @CariBean: They showed that moment (his hands on her hips) stilled on one of the stations and those hands were so inappropriately placed. He is nothing but a sow, an animal. Sociopath in my opinion.
Rumors have abounded for years it is Trump’s intense interest in Ivanka (only after she developed sexually) that is why Marla allegedly keeps his other daughter away from him except with close supervision. The Love Child of Woody Allen and Roman Polanski = The Dictator in Chief of the United States.
She has done a ton of work on her face over the last few years, it’s finally crossing the line into distracting.
Actually, I think the work on her face is great, whatever she did. She is much prettier than when younger and is a very striking woman.
It isn’t bad work for sure, but she’s done a lot and she only sort of looks like herself now. I find that distracting.
I think she looks very pretty but she sure had lots of work done. I remember the not-so-pretty Ivanka from my grandma’s Vanidades magazine.
I actually think her work is amazing. As when I first saw her several years ago I thought she had too much of her Dad in her look but she has definitely surgeried it out and looks much better for it. I’m ashamed to say, since I don’t like promoting plastic surgery but she really does look better. It is kind of freaky how different she looks but if you’d never see the pre-surgery face you’d just think she was naturally that way.
Her dad was actually a good looking guy when he was younger. She could have stuck with genetics, I think.
If this bothers you worse than what Hillary did to Bernie, you have issues. Really? We fought hard to have a candidate for the people and Hillary destroyed him. Those Wikileaks should be the issue. I can’t believe the way she treated him.
What Hillary DID to Bernie? C’mon, she got 2 million more general votes, not even counting the delegates. She flat out won, no bullshit there. Bernie also took his sweet time endorsing, which I actually think is his right, but let’s not pretend that Hillary “treated” him any differently than any other possible competitor. If anything, she held back from saying anything personally negative about him along the way. Yes, I loved Bernie too, but it is time to move forward with optimism for new barriers broken.
Actually we wont know if she earned those votes or if the dnc manipulation created them. Due to how close the race was bewteen her and bernie, this matters…oh, and for decency, trustworthiness and honoring the democratic process.
The race was never close between Hilary and Bernie. Hilary pulled ahead of Bernie long ago with the major states and most delegates and by the time he got any steam he was any picking up small states that were not winner take all.
The idea that it was ‘so close’ wasn’t true to anyone actually following the numbers.
tami, Hillary has had support for decades now. She is a “known” name and had millions of voters in 2008. Yes, she started off the race ahead of Bernie, but not for nefarious reasons.
Bernie was a candidate for the people? No he wasn’t. He was for himself. You cannot have a political revolution like Bernie kept claiming without supporting down ticket races. Something Bernie barely did and only after he was called out for it. And then on top of that he supported a candidate who has an anti-abortion voting record, but he had a gall to complain that Tim Kaine (who has a 100% rated with Planned Parenthood), isn’t progressive enough.
I agree the down ticket races were a problem. Why would anyone expect the DNC to be gungho about a candidate who is not, in fact, a Democrat and has no real party loyalty? I admire a lot about Sanders, but think these were big issues. Also, I have yet to see any evidence that the DNC did any substantive damage to Sanders–what I have seen thus far amounts to little more than e-mail snark.
The dnc tried to destroy Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton doesn’t run the dnc. She shouldn’t shoulder the blame for what they did.
The DNC did not try to destroy Bernie Sanders. Hackers obtained thousands of emails and hand picked six to smear DWS. This is a tempest in a teacup and nothing more.
The dnc didn’t try help Sanders either. The emails were handpicked but DWS gave them the ammunition. Full stop.
@FingerBinger Actually, the DNC did help Bernie. They lobbied for him to be on the Democratic ballot in NH, even though state law prevented him from doing so as an independent, and they lobbied for him to be on the DC ballot after he missed the filing deadline.
Why would they try to help Bernie? He isn’t a member of their party, he’s criticized them for years and he only took on the title of democrat solely for the purpose of having a larger outreach and access to DNC funds.
I agree. Unless there is evidence of collusion between her office and the DNC members who were out of line, you can’t put this on her.
Give me a break.
Not sure what Hillary “did” to Bernie, other than get 3 million more votes than he did. I find it really sad that these days everyone who loses assumes they were cheated and twist the facts until their conspiracy theory is confirmed. Bernie is not the nominee because a majority of voters chose Hillary.
You have a problem? Then remember this and speak up BEYOND just the presidential election. Show up for the midterms, make your call to action when it’s a time to actually change the system (ie, not in the middle of the presidential election). But aside from that… the DNC and Hilary Clinton are 2 different entities, and Bernie was soundly beaten.
Say it one more time for the people in the back!!!!
Thank you!!!!
The issue is, Donald and his campaign manager is trying to influence our election by having the Russian government leaking the email exactly at the start of the democratic convention. The Fbi are investing and they say the email leak came out of Russia. The investigation is on going. I’m not saying the DNC was right, but that was not Hillary doing. Stop blaming her for everything that’s wrong with world.
I got called one of the “sheeple” so many times today that I started responding “baaaa” to everyone. Why? I made the same point that you did. There was something in those emails that should have led to someone losing their job, but it no one ever did anything and it wasn’t Hillary on those emails. The emails that supposedly proved that the DNC were actively working against Bernie amounted to some people sending nasty emails about a co-worker they don’t like. However, it wasn’t Hillary saying these things. Hillary is also being blamed for apparently bribing Bernie Sanders to support her (yes, this was an actual discussion taken as fact) even though he said in the very beginning that if she won the primaries, he would support her as the nominee. Now suddenly he’s been paid off, but he’s still honest and the best and it’s all Hillary’s fault.
I voted for Bernie and I do have some issues with Hillary as a candidate, but she will hopefully get some more progressive judges on The Supreme Court and she has a voting record that is far more in line with what I stand for than anything that comes out of Trump’s mouth.
The country isn’t going to be fixed in 4 years no matter who is in office, but we can lay some groundwork while we fight for what we want before the next presidential election. Of course that means continuing to take an interest in local and midterm elections, but The Supreme Court Justices are going to be around for a long time to come and we need them because state government’s led by republicans seem to keep passing unconstitutional laws that always have to go to The Supreme Court. Ugh.
So anyway, my point was that everything isn’t some Hillary conspiracy and if she is truly capable of getting away with everything she is accused of, then she will be able to do anything as president!
Also, I haven’t been able to get into play Pokemon GO all day and I think Hillary is behind it. I probably won’t be able to play until November and only if I vote for her. But if that’s what it takes to evolve my Staryu, then that’s what I’ll do!
Baaaa!
I agree with both of you. It’s amazing to me they blame everything on Hillary.
I was for Bernie, too. But now Hillary is the democratic nominee, and I support her. I’m not going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
Doodle thats the right attitude to have.
Thank you doodle. We need more people like you!
As everyone pointed out, Hillary didn’t do anything to Bernie. Also, everyone is losing sight that out of 20K emails, they could only find 2-3 email convos about Bernie and these were in MAY (and maybe after the awful Nevada caucus issue?). If anything the DNC was trying to find a way not to have to (needlessly) split their time covering their right and left flanks when the race was WELL OVER.
Also, it’s amazing to me how much people expected the DNC to support Bernie. It’s not that he was simply a newcomer or an outsider. He was a career politician who spent his time bashing both the R’s and D’s, stating they were essentially one-in-the-same. He admittedly joined the party only for media coverage. Furthermore, as pointed out above, he didn’t support down ticket Dems until WAY too late in the game, and ONLY after he was called out on it by Rachel Maddow.
Preach. Spot on.
+2
Exactly.
But because Bernie gave flowery speeches promising people a future he wouldn’t have been able to give we’re expected to worship at his altar.
But why should the DNC have helped Bernie in the first place?
Sanders spent his Congressional career as an independent. Nothing wrong with that, but he was not a Democrat. Hadn’t been for years. He was a constant critic of the Democrats, arguing that they weren’t doing enough to help America.
He openly admits that he ran as a Democrat solely because of the media and fundraising advantages it conferred. That’s it. He admits this freely. So my question is why the DNC was even obligated to work with him in the first place. He basically walked into their house after spending years talking smack and demanded that they treat him as a friend. Personally, even if the DNC did in fact decide to back Hillary, I don’t really see a huge issue, given that Sanders was, by his own admission, using them. Why should they play nice with him?
This!
Sam I didn’t see your post before posting similar above. Yes, this.
Oh so, impeding the Democratic process is ok because he is an Independent? Sanders followed the rules of the DNC when running off against Clinton. Clinton’s friend, who runs the DNC, made some incendiary comments that sounds awful close to rigging those ballots. Interesting how there were issues with the DC, NY and Cali ballots that cost Sanders votes, but you know I guess it’s ok because he was “using the system”.
Uh, nope. Read what I said above. He WAS an independent. He made a career of being a thorn in the side of registered Democrats. But when he wanted to run for President, he switched his party affiliation. And I missed where the DNC is “the democratic process.” They’re not – they are a party of affiliated like-minded individuals who share their resources to elect people they agree with. That’s what a political party is. Bernie wanted to run, but he didn’t want to run as an independent because the Democrats offer more resources. So he switched, despite – by his own admission – not being ideologically aligned with the party and only wanted access to their resources.
Also, check your language. He was not “using the system.” He was using the Party – which I’ve already explained is a private entity that can choose to treat candidates however it wishes.
If Bernie were true to his ideals, he’d run under the banner he’s had for years – Independent. He admits to using the Democratic Party to advance his own ends. So again, why should they treat him as one of them when he’s made clear he’s not?
Bernie has always caucused with the Democrats in Congress. Nothing devious about running within the Democratic Party at all. He’s sort of an offshoot of the Democrats anyway, as far as the issues go. Didn’t seem odd to me at all, and I’ve been a Bernie lover for years.
@Jwoolman – I, too, have been a huge Bernie fan, but caucusing with the Democrats isn’t the same as being a member of the party and having to fundraise for the party. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee requires members to pay dues to support candidates in tough races and those running for open seats. Bernie enjoyed the privileges of membership without paying the dues.
As far as I’m aware, the DNC isn’t “the system”. In fact, their job is to try to find the most electable, appropriate candidate for the party – which Sanders simply wasn’t. As Sam pointed out, Sanders spent the bulk of his career as an Independent.
Sam, based on the parties’ own rules, they cannot treat candidates however they want. The leadership of the party has rules that they must follow. They allowed Bernie to run and they are required to treat him fairly according to their own rules, which they created. I know that many people do not believe that they treated him fairly. I have yet to see any real evidence of that. They may have begrudged having to do it, but they did it.
I get frustrated at the fact that people keep stressing that the political parties are PRIVATE parties. Yet our tax dollars pay for their primaries. If they truly want to be private, then they need to stop accepting any tax funding for their private elections, or make all primaries open. However, I know you didn’t say anything about that topic. I’m not trying to start a fight or anything, I’m just putting it out there that stressing that it is a private organization is all well and good, but as an independent, I shouldn’t have to fund a primary that I’m not allowed to vote it (I’m in Michigan and we have open primaries now, so that actually doesn’t apply to me).
I honestly don’t think they violated those rules. They don’t have to be happy about it, they just have to follow them and I completely understand why they weren’t happy about it. I do believe that he was more of a fight than they were expecting, but my opinions on how they felt are neither here nor there and they aren’t the reason that Bernie didn’t win the nomination.
She didn’t destroy him, it was a fairly run and won vote, period. Bernie is an independent and as such he can do much more good remaining as Senator and not being Hilary’s VP either. Methinks you’re getting your political information out of a Cheerios box.
@Cassie it’s a major issue for me. It shows the ugliness of the DNC. Mysteriously the FBI was able to track down the leak to Russia b/c you know Russia is mad tight with Trump, so it’s all linked to Trump, supposedly. Sigh. It’s like both sides are toying with us by spreading half-truths and lies. Debbie Schultz, head of the DNC as of yesterday, resigned over this mess and what did tone deaf Hilary do? Hire her friend to work her campaign. Ridic. I’m like, “see this is why people don’t like you.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-dnc-wikileaks-emails.html?_r=0
A lot of people had trouble with Debbie before the hacked e-mails, which were just a convenient excuse to replace her. But the offer of an honorary (not real…) position was just a way to help Debbie save face. I think the resignation was necessary simply because she was going to get some serious flack and heckling otherwise. This way the convention starts off on a happy note and Debbie can say she just wants to focus on her own campaign and her new not-real honorary position in Hillary’s campaign. If people really liked her and thought she had been doing a great job, she would still be doing that job and the e-mails would have been a minor hiccup.
Jwoolman,
Hilary is helping her friend save face, but it’s a bad look for her. People were upset (Dem supporters), and rightfully so, it just comes across as arrogant.
Hillary didn’t destroy Bernie. If he had the votes, he would be the nominee. Maybe your ballot looks different than ours, but individuals around the country had the chance to fill in the box next to his name. Not enough did, that’s all.
But Bernie got enough votes to have a real influence on platform and policy, and that was probably the real purpose of his campaign. He now has influence that he didn’t have before, because he can indeed deliver a significant number of votes, telling the Democrats that they had better not ignore those issues. I knew Bernie would never be President, but that didn’t stop me from voting for him. He knows very well that the important thing now is to keep that clown Trump out of the White House and he will be a powerful campaigner for the rational alternative, who happens to be Hillary Clinton because more people filled in her boxes. I doubt very much that Bernie feels destroyed or anywhere close to it. He succeeded, and he knows it.
Lol, but of course. I will give her credit for being the most pleasant speaker at the RNC, significantly less apocalyptic than the rest. I liked how she brought up women’s rights/family leave, too bad that has been the only mention of it.
Is anyone else getting really nervous about a President Trump? It’s like it doesn’t matter how many times he lies (which he does constantly) Hillary is still seen as less trustworthy. Don’t get me wrong, I know there are issues with her too but I feel like he gets away with saying complete trash every day and is not held accountable for it in the court of public opinion the way she is. I think his “trustworthy” ranking should be the same as her. And, ironically, the true dark days of America will be what follows if he’s elected.
On a positive note I loved Tim Kaine’s speech on Saturday and I think he’s an even better pick than I first thought. Really impressed by my senator.
Yes, his speech was fantastic on Saturday.
Did you see their 60 Minute interview last night? I came away even more impressed and confident in her pick and in Hillary. The interview is on the CBS website if you didn’t see it.
I’ve seen a few clips but not the whole thing-thank you I will watch it! Seems they have good chemistry together and will be a great team. I take heart that he’s never lost an election and hope to goodness the streak continues!
It gave me hope! I hope they stay on message and positive for the next 3 months…they really seem to like each other and appear to be a good team!
So glad to hear other Virginians on here JenB! And so proud of TK. As far as politicians go, I feel like he’s pretty controversy free and does it kind of make you giddy to think he could really possibly be the next president?? I need to print out my phone pics I’ve taken with him and hang on the wall. Lol.
Loved Kaine’s speech, too! They complement each other so well.
(Also in VA)
The dress also didn’t fit her properly and was wrinkly. She could have at least had it tailored.
Second that. It also really could’ve used a thin belt or some tasteful accessorizing.
Agreed. Kind of goes with the cheap u attractive vibe I get on her whole line.
That looks like a 40 dollar sale dress (not 138 dollars). I’m surprised they weren’t hawking steaks from the podium (if they were still selling them), or plugging their hotels.
The funny part is one of the dress retailers is one her father doesn’t like (because they axed their relationship with him over some comments he made).
Actually, Trump really did include a little infomercial in one of his speeches at the convention. Had a display table set up and everything. Steaks (poor sellers in The Sharper Image catalog once upon a time), a brochure for his resorts that he tried to pass off as the defunct Trump magazine, generic bottled water that he had plastered his name on and sold at his resorts but really didn’t own, Trump wine that turned out to come from a winery not owned or managed by Trump (they just licensed the name). Trump insisted these were all his products, proving what a great businessman he was I guess, and dared the media to check it out, so of course somebody actually did. It was truly bizarre. So Ivanka was restrained in comparison.
I can just imagine The State of the Union address by Trump hawking his wares.
That is a lot of money for a polyester dress.
Of course. They just want money and advantages, and that’s what they’ll be seeking if they get to the white house. Some of Trump’s clothes are also made in Mexico, and he is cynical enough to go and say that we are taking their jobs.
Also about the convention, did anybody saw the lili-white people with the “Latinos para Trump” signs? they couldn’t even hire brown people (yes, many Latinos are white, but you know what I mean) or invest two minutes to get the correct phrase in Spanish (“por” or “con” would have been the right words).
Fun fact, the Trump piñata is one of the most popular right now. Piñatas are awesome and its especially satisfying to destroy a Trump one to get candies.
Ivanka mystifies me because she embodies so many contradictions of the whole campaign. She is a Jewish woman (converted), married to a Jewish man, raising Jewish children, who proudly stands by while her father reaps the endorsements of known anti-Semites. Doesn’t that bother her, even a tiny bit? She is a working businesswoman in a party populated by people who wish to return to a time when women were discouraged from working. I can understand Donald’s sons being all in, but I have to wonder what goes on in Ivanka’s head. I have heard that she has tried, on occasion, to change Donald’s rhetoric but he doesn’t. So maybe she’s not okay with it. But she doesn’t have to stand on stage and support it, either.
Girlfriend has serious ambition and doesn’t really care how she gets there. I think Donald dumps Melania (or relegates her to the background) and Ivanka becomes the unofficial FLOTUS. I can totally see the whole family in the oval office…if that doesn’t make you scared, it should!
+1 I have long believed Ivanka will be appointed to a highly visible position.
Well put! And that’s what bothers me as well. Ivanka wants to talk responsibly, respectably, and reasonably. However, she is also HUGE supporter of her father and his campaign. One is not only judged by their own words and actions, but who they associate themselves with. While she doesn’t have a choice in who her fathers is, she does have a choice in standing up on podiums and platforms to support his campaign; she does have a choice to give interviews praising this campaign.
Her husband, Jared Kushner is also very involved in the campaign. He is said to be one of Trump’s key advisers. So apparently the anti-semitism is not problematic to them, as long as they benefit from the clout that goes with being the potential first daughter/ son-in-law.
Exactly. And they keep trying to spin it as “we’re sticking around in the hopes our beliefs/sensibilities will rub off on him.” No, no. You’re there for self-interested reasons.
Speaking fees and business interests. Gotta keep the money flowing.
I find it bizarre too. We have several friends/acquaintances who are Jewish and are Trump supporters, and I find it mind boggling.
Some people don’t care what you call them so long as you put money in their pocket. For the especially white and wealthy even their heritage or minority status can be ignored because they have the money to not actually be effected by negative policy.
See Peter Thiel praising the RNC convention as the most pro-LGBT in history.
I wonder how her jewelry business is going. That headquarters is not far from the Diamond District. Do the Jewish jewelers still work with her or are they shunning her?
Also, Donald values loyalty above everything else. If any of his family said one word against him or disagreed with him in front of an “outsider”, they would effectively be out of the family. It’s rather Corleonesque, really.
I don’t think any of their products are made in the USA. If that’s how you choose to do business, fine, but then don’t showboat about boycotting other companies who do the same. And don’t run for POTUS.
The 60 Minutes interview was great…such a start contrast to the tRUMP/Pence disaster the previous week. I really, really like Tim Kaine…good pic HRC!!
Imagine the furor if Michelle Obama had worn a dress manufactured elsewhere while making a speech?
Imagine if Obama showed up to his convention with kids from three different relationships…
Oh, I can imagine the bluster. The racist, spittle-flecked bluster. Something something something welfare mom…. But if it’s a rich white guy: you gotta get a new model every so often. That’s different.
Imagine the “Führer” lol
LOL!
She does all the time. The difference is the Obama’s don’t make a huge issue about things having to be made in America.
Where’s your story about Hillary Clinton’s $7K coat?
What’s the point? HRC has been working her ass off for most of her life, if she wants to buy a coat that costs 7K than she should!
HRC Isn’t rallying against overseas manufacturing while plugging products made overseas. Ivanka’s hypocrisy, not her dress, is the story here.
Hillary can afford $12K jackets because she and Bill cashed in on her role as Sec. of State. Read or watch “Clinton Cash.”
Not here, Erin. This is turning into a firm Hillary ’16 camp at celebitchy, which is expected. I don’t like Hillary, I don’t like Trump. I’m not sure what I’m going to do come election day. The only thing Hillary has going for her is her experience as a full on government official which is what I think will give her the presidency. She’s malleable, Trump’s a wealthy celebrity plutocrat that will probably be assassinated by the CIA if he’s elected. Sounds crazy, I know, but it’s the American way. Fait accompli.
@kaiko, we can’s say Hillary is not qualified, jmo. Donald son was asking Kasich to be his his father’s VP. He told him he would be the most powerful VP. Kasich would be in charge of foreign and domestic affairs. Kasich aid asked Donald’s son what would donald do, his son replied, “Make America Great”. I cannot understand how anyone would be willing to put their country in the hands, small hands of someone who has no idea about governing a country. Btw, since this story came out the son denied this, but Kasich has not denied.
Not the same. She bought the coat herself and didn’t go on twitter trying to profit from it as soon as she took it off, unlike Ivanka.
@ Erin…..Or trumps 747 plane, that he charge the miles to his campaign fund?
Trump’s campaign has been all about “making America great again” and bringing jobs/manufacturing back to the US. it is INCREDIBLY hypocritical, therefore, for them to have most, if not all, of their clothing lines manufactured overseas (Mexico or China).
Hillary may be wearing $7000 coats, but she’s not pushing an “affordable” clothing line, made here or anywhere else.
see the diff?
Deflection doesn’t work here. Hilary’s coat and the cost of it have f’all to do with this ambitious chick showing off her own brand of foreign-made clothing at the RNC.
Is she not allowed to buy coats?
What is wrong with owning a $7K coat? Hillary can afford it, you didn’t pay for it. Also there are reasons the coat cost that, and the number of people that $7K pay is unbelievable.
This negative judgement of people who have money is really getting gross. Sorry I work in luxury fashion and it is a massive industry and employs a lot of people with incredible skills that you can’t even imagine. Don’t bash it just because you can’t afford it or you think it is elitist. People spend their money how they feel best and it is NO ONE’s business but theirs.
Also since Ivanka isn’t running and to my knowledge (correct me if I am wrong) hasn’t personally said anything about US manufacturing or been anti trade there is nothing wrong with her making her products overseas as long as she is following the US laws and standards for over sea factories.
$7K is out of my league, but I bet that coat will last long enough to be passed down to her granddaughter… Quality really makes a difference in such things. Cheap clothing becomes unwearable quickly, so even I will spend more sometimes just to get something that fits and won’t fall apart within a year. Plus of course the money spent is used to pay a lot of people, so it’s never actually wasted.
all these responses: pot, meet kettle. and what’s wrong with wearing something from your own label? im not seeing the crime there.
She hawked it afterwards. Trump supporters are full of blind, baseless hate.
We generally don’t use things like primaries, conventions and elections to enrich ourselves.
“and what’s wrong with wearing something from your own label?”
nothing.
that’s not the issue.
let me explain again, because I guess you don’t understand either. besides hawking it and using the political process for your own enrichment (a big no-no), she is also actively campaigning for a candidate whose main theme is “make America great again”, which he will do by, among other things, keeping jobs and manufacturing in America. did you catch that? BY KEEPING JOBS AND MANUFACTURING IN AMERICA. which neither the candidate nor she does when putting out their clothing lines.
This is how I see Donald Trump responding to reporters that his daughter’s clothes are made in China. Of course, avoiding the whole topic ” My families products are the best! They’re terrific! So good. Melania’s Products are the best. So are Ivanka’s. The best! You can’t find better products anywhere. Made by the best workers. Not American workers though. American workers are terrible. Just terrible. Oh yeah, I am going to tell China how to manage it’s currency, to make it worthless and make them use the American dollar, because I am Donald Trump”
LOL, so true. I mean the GOP’s agenda is so vague and lacking any real active and affirmation language I wonder how this stuff gets through. I mean try submitting that report to a PhD professor and you will fail for nondescript hyperbolic language.
One thing I wonder about the Trump family: Donald is such a pathological liar, lies about EVERYTHING, what do his kids think about that and why do they defend him? Do they also think it’s OK to lie about everything? Are just like him? Or do they know he’s a sociopath and cut him some slack as a way of launching themselves into politics?
And one of the best comments I saw (don’t remember where, could have been here) about Ivanka posting a link to her dress: “Grifters gotta grift”
I think they are a sociopathic family in the mould of Mafia families.
I have an uncle like that. He told us he went to school with Bob Dylan ( he was never in the same province), he said he was a part owner in a massive building project, but it was a timeshare condo, he said he made 18 million dollars on a stock investment 20 years ago, but he and my aunt were pulling 6000$ out of their mortgage every month.
He has 3 kids, and they completely ignore him. I think its partly to save face for everyone, but they also benefit from his tall tales (everyone thinks they hang out with famous sports figures, but they don’t – one of my cousins went to the same school as the child of sports figure). But I also wonder what they would do? They are all still very tied to their parents (mid twenties and still live at home). They are dependent on their parents’ lifestyle, so they don’t rock the boat. But it’s embarassing to listen to.
I took my teenaged daughter to the Nordstrom half yearly sale to shoe shop. Her favorite pair of black flats: Ivanka Trump. She said it was the biggest moral dilemma of her (albeit sheltered) life. Our sales guy said “If it makes you feel better, you’re stepping on their name as you walk.”
I’ve had the same contemplation about Jessica Simpson. I could not believe a store such as Nordstrom would sell shoes with her name on it. Payless, yes but Nordstrom um, no. I passed.
I bought a JS sweater because I liked the sweater itself, and it was clearance priced for less than 13 dollars (half of half price – it was a season leftover). I knew that price wasn’t going to be a profit.
Jessica Simpson makes good stuff! I have a pair of her shoes and they’ve been through the ringer and still look great. Her underwear is also my favorite.
It’s hard to judge Ivanka for manufacturing clothing overseas but she is definitely fair game for hustling her clothing line at the RNC.
Enough with the “white blonde” comments .
On the contrart, we should continue talking about white women because you can be damn sure they are the ones who will hand the nomination to trump at the end. When talking about racism in america, we are always vastly underestimating white women’s racism. See Swifty and her many supporters.
Trumps tie collection he sold at Macy’s wasn’t made in America either. Thus was while he was screeching about getting manufacturing /jobs back to the USA.
It’s very significant that Trump placed doubts, if he’s elected, on whether the U.S. under NATO would protect other countries if attacked (say, by Putin and the former Soviet Union). I don’t doubt Putin wants Trump to win– another jackass to run circles around (I’m referring to George W. Bush, who outsourced his presidency anyway). Trump is counting on the 70 percent of white people in this country to vote him in, as if all white people were bigoted racists. I know this can’t be true, but I do believe a certain segment of white American men feel their manhood was cut to the quick by a black man in the presidency. They have truly never recovered from this and have turned rabid. I think it’s as ugly and naked as this. I really do.
I agree. First a black man. And now a lowly woman. Their heads have finally exploded and released all that toxic bile and hatred into the atmosphere.
Lol! As if this is the big story and not the dnc manipulating the system to defeat bernie?
OMG they didn’t. It was 6 emails out of 20K. They didn’t do it and she one by 3 Million votes. She went in with a lead. Also apparently there were emails bashing Hillary too.
Bernie lost because he didn’t reach enough people with his message, he however, got a lot and now has a big place in the convention which is amazing since he isn’t really a DEMOCRAT!!
But regardless he lost it is time to move the freak on. Our legitimate choices are Hillary and Trump because third party candidates don’t stand a chance. So while Hillary isn’t my ideal choice she isn’t a racist, xenophobe that wants to be a dictator.
We have two choice and Bernie isn’t one, it is over time to move on.
No one should be surprised that the Trump merchandise is all made in China. American banks have refused to bankroll The Donald for years. He is owned by Russia and China, which is why he won’t release his tax returns.
His casinos aren’t even his. They are owned by rich men in the Middle East. They just agreed to slap his name on them to help with profit (though that might change now?). It’s so obvious this dude is fake yet the racists just want to vote for him because of “the wall” and “let’s not allow Muslims in”. Disgusting.
Trump never has claimed those casinos are still his. He played the bankruptcy laws to his advantage to make money. They keep the name because the brand is recognizable. Those are facts. How does that make him fake?
@ blaah
I didn’t know any of that. But how about the fact that he wants to have everything Made in America again yet his OWN clothing/products aren’t? Shouldn’t he start with himself? That DOES make him fake.
Wow, I would love to know what people think of Hillary’s outfits, who is ACTUALLY RUNNING for office. Ivanka is not, who cares? Further, are we upset because she isn’t in line with what Trump is promoting about moving trade back to American soil or are we upset because we do not endorse Chinese produce items? If the latter, than please prepare yourself for sky high prices in all retail sectors. If you want to keep your cute outfits and low prices, then stop talking. If the former, what do you care if you do not support Trump anyhow?
Seriously? There are millions or threads, jokes, SNL skits and think pieces about Hillary’s out fits. Google them.
@me he shouldn’t bring production here. I whole heartedly disagree with him. It’s too expensive to manufacture goods in this country. He knows it so that’s why he doesn’t. I don’t blindly agree with him. He talks a big talk, but he won’t make that move.
I don’t see how his stance should be extended to his daughter. She’s already said quite plainly that they don’t agree on everything. so maybe she doesn’t agree with him propagating something she knows is not a good idea.
The Trumps are all working for Putin and Russia. His wife and his daughter are Russian agents. The Trumps (and by extension every single one of their fans) are traitors actively working to bring the USA down.
I actually might believe this hmmmmm
So tacky that she’s peddling her clothing line during the convention. The entire family are no class grifters.
Thank you Kaiser for covering this. I saw her outfits and googled the sourcing during the convention because it bugged me too. If Ivanka was on her own, that would be one thing. She is executive VP of the Trump organization, she is not a mom running a little startup with kickstarter money out of her garage. Donald Trump is running on his brand and his daughter is the 2nd biggest face of his brand. If she truly believes in his message she should be the first one saying, how can I make this dress in the US? With enough automation engineers & robotics, it would be possible to make that $139 dress in the US. Btw, I work with automation engineers. If Donald is making this a campaign issue, he should put the Trump money where his mouth is and bring the Trump jobs to the US. I love all the comments here (!) on both sides, you guys are great.
I keep wondering why this is not more of a talking point and why it is not brought up when Trump is being interviewed. “Mr. Trump, you could have created manufacturing jobs here in America, as your daughter could also. How can you make manufacturing jobs in America a priority of your campaign but not a priority when you yourself had the chance to do so?” I have not heard that question asked and it is only logical; If jobs in America are so important to him why didn’t he take less profit and put Americans to work? Because everything he says is bullshit. That’s why.
God….I need to hibernate until this is over.
Good for Sarah Kate Silverman.
I do not like the political choices presented for all of the obvious reasons. It comes down to who you can get behind and why. I am terribly afraid after reading all of the discussions I have read in this thread that the major issue is divisiveness on the issues. Morally I do not care for either Clinton or Trump. If there was a strong third candidate, I would vote for them in a millisecond. However, I think I am just going to have to hold my nose when I vote.
As I wasn’t born in this country, but I am an American Citizen, I still dont understand whats the big deal about the emails and why the Republicans act like the Spaniard Inquisition in the 1400’s trying to burn a witch alive. Bush took us to a war knowing very well thar there were NOT weapons of massive destruction and dozens of thousands of people lost their lives and many veterans came back to the country dead or disabled. Where is all the rage against Bush?
If that dress was $138 it was way too much. To me it looks like $29.95.
“…much like Michelle Obama, people are interested in what Ivanka wears.”
The “average” woman can afford Ivankas outfits! Wonder when the last time MO wore a $150 dress?!
8 years ago??
Why would anyone manufacture in America, who has the highest tax rate for businesses, when they can save money out of the country? Trump’s aren’t stupid. BUT… once Trump becomes President … that will change. He will bring companies back to America. Lower the tax rate for businesses which will benefit all of us. Yep, even giving the ‘rich’ companies a break in taxes…. benefits all of us.