Jeremy Renner spent most of 2015 battling with his estranged wife, Sonni Pacheco. Before the divorce, Renner had always had a reputation as an odd-but-talented guy, but the drama surrounding his divorce and custody battle really did ding his reputation. I think most people find him sort of creepy now, right? But he really went to war with Sonni, and maintained that she signed a prenup and he wasn’t going to pay her a dime more than she deserved. At the end of their battle, they got joint custody of their daughter Ava, plus Jeremy is paying Sonni $13,000 a month in child support. All in all, it seemed like they had finally hammered out a deal and everything was fine now. But Sonni says Renner isn’t fulfilling the terms of their child support agreement.
Jeremy Renner’s a deadbeat dad who refuses to pay for preschool and catch up on child support … or so claims his ex-wife. Sonni Pacheco says Jeremy time and again refuses to pay his half of the $1,600 monthly preschool tuition for their 3-year-old daughter, Ava. In new docs, obtained by TMZ, Sonni also says Renner’s fallen behind on child support to the tune of $48,367.
As we reported … Jeremy and Sonni struck a deal last year for Jeremy to pay $13k a month in child support as part of their divorce settlement — and he seems to think that should be more than enough dough.
Sonni’s docs include a text exchange where Jeremy says, “I’m not sure why you keep coming after more money here Sonni. I don’t have the cash to give you. I’m sorry you can’t figure out how to care for [Ava] with over 300k.”
She’s asking the court to make Renner pay for all of Ava’s schooling, and all of the back child support.
Did they not work out who would pay for what part of Ava’s education within their divorce/child support agreement? This should be pretty easy to figure out, because it’s pretty much standard in divorces involving children these days. The lawyers know to work out the educational costs within the child custody/support agreement. My guess is that Renner probably is in the wrong, that he should be paying for Ava’s (exorbitant) preschool tuition as a separate issue from his child support payments to Sonni. I hope he pays up.
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Sadly, $1,600/month isn’t a lot when it comes to preschool (at least, for an all-day preschool). It might be a little pricey if its one of those morning programs. But I live in the DC area, where its not uncommon to pay $2,500/mo for infant or toddler daycare. It would be cheaper to send my toddler to the University of Virginia than for our local daycare.
But totally agree he’s creepy. Getting $13,000/mo isn’t actually a lot, considering how much he has. If he hasn’t even paid the court-order amount, that’s a problem.
I was with you until you said 13k wasn’t a lot (considering how much he has)…yes, it is. For child support of a toddler? Yeah. It is.
Fair enough. I mean, I’d kill to have that kind of money every month to support my kid. I just meant in comparison to what other divorcees of Hollywood stars have gotten, $13k isn’t a ton.
yeah. !3 k / month?! Wtf!
In the text he said he had paid her over $300K and this a quote from another site giving his reps response.
“claims that Renner is a deadbeat dad are baseless and completely erroneous. He has unequivocally never fallen behind on child support payments – this year he has paid several hundreds of thousands of dollars for his young daughter’s child support and well-being.”
“He is a loving, attentive and caring fathers who moves his work schedule around to maximize his time with his daughter Ava,” the rep continued. “In terms of pre-school tuition for the 3-year old, this was never part of the divorce decree. His ex continues on a quest of trying to publicly demean the actor and extricate him from as much money as she can for her sole benefit.”
All her other claims against him have come to nothing so I would wait and see before forming an opinion on this.
She has won some of her claims, but those ones don’t come out publicly in TMZ. Definetly this new story comes from Jeremy’s in order to make her look greedy, but at the end makes him look worst. At the end it his reputation and his daughter that are really affected with all of this , should change strategy of how to handle things with his ex and change PR team or listen to his team. Making the ex look like a demon doesn’t automatically makes him look good. She now has a job as a realtor, attempting to make her debut at a NYC gallery so she isn’t as fragile as she was a year ago. Paying late or refusing to pay a pricey (or normal it seems) preschool doesn’t help him to win a point over Sonni. Change strategy man!
Java, what has she ‘won’ that hasn’t come out in public, and how do you know about them?
Second, she released this new story, not Jeremy. I think you are confused.
Why would a realtor make a gallery debut?
One of the Z listers Jeremy hooked up since he separated, an Univision tv host, posted a bunch of photos of Renner house, and you can see in a couple of them baby fences securing doors, so that makes me think she won that claim. Also Renner has lowered the number of posts with his daughter, until now that she is using her to devoid the attention
Sonni is also a sculptor (cough) and it seems she us going to make an exhibition in a NY gallery
She never claimed he didn’t have baby gates on the stairs or doors, just a pool fence, which he still doesn’t have. Looking at his instagram, it is clear that a pool fence would never have worked since the pools weave around what looks like most of the house. He designed the house and must have added safety features at an early stage. If the judge hadn’t agreed a fence was unnecessary I imagine the only option would have been to fill all the pools in until the child was older. I am sure she was made aware of all those safety features as they were together the entire time the house was being remodeled and I have no doubt they at least met basic state safety requirements or she could have called the police. It was an unnecessary thing to put before the court and she clearly didn’t win on that or the photos on instragram because there has been no significant change in what he posts. What it did do is make awful headlines by implying he was endangering his daughter when he clearly wasn’t. She seems to be aiming for one inflammatory headline after another with little or no hope of winning the argument. If there is any real truth in these latest accusations I will be very surprised. My guess is that she is trying to wear him down to the point that when she next asks for extra money, outside the terms of the divorces settlement, he will just give up and let her have whatever she wants.
So funny how when people aren’t entirely right, they have to use so many words to defend a position. On the photos of the Z lister is evident Jeremy had to put a baby fence in a beautiful glass door, with laser fence and safety, my guess to avoid the whole fence around the pool. The point is that all the claims resolutions aren’t public or published in TMZ, except what a coincidence the custody agreement.
My advice for him would be to act differently towards the way he handles his disagreements with his ex. She totally knows where he hurts: his money and image, if not his rep would t had responded so fast. The publicity on his personal affairs is getting kind of a cliche and really diminishes his character. Giver her the money and audit her expenses !! As simple as that. The girl is too young, obviously there are a million things that weren’t discussed in the divorce decree. So this means he can not hold a verbal agreement and she has to drag him every time to court? Jeez makes him look so cheap
I was going to write as well $1600 doesn’t seem that out of the norm for a pricey area, I live in the suburbs of Philly, and I was paying $1300 for a month for daycare for my youngest, and $500 just for my oldest for an hour after school, literally an hour
Today I learned, I need to open up a daycare.
I live in downtown Houston, which I’d always considered to have a relatively low cost of living compared to other large cities in different parts of the country. We had found $1300 a month for daycare about average. So yeah, I wouldn’t consider $1600 exorbitant for a large city in a pricey area.
I’d just feel the need to mention that, as a preschool teacher myself (Bachelor in Education) NONE of all this expensive dough is going to the teachers. Most preschools (not all, mind you) hire ‘teachers’ with little or no experience or education. It makes me crazy. Mostly because I have to end up working with them. Generally, they’re very nice people, but with no skills and no training, not to mention their own mis-guided belief that working with young children is ‘super-easy’ because ‘they’re like, super cute and stuff’, their classrooms are mismanaged and chaotic. Because of the belief that just about anyone can be a preschool teacher, wages are EXTREMELY LOW. Poverty-level, in many cases.
I’m lucky in a sense. I work with two other teachers with degrees and together, we have 40 years of experience between us. But make sure to ASK QUESTIONS when you select your child’s preschool: what their philosophy is, what their child-teacher ratio is, the total number of children permitted in the classroom, the educational level of the teacher(s) and years of experience, etc. There are an awful lot of crap preschools. The best teachers with the education/experience are naturally going to go where they’re better paid with better resources.
I live in DC too and was thinking the same thing! My dog’s daycare is around $750 a month and he’s a DOG.
Yes, $1600 a month is about right for a decent pre-school…
It seems comletely crazy to me. We are talking about toddlers who are basically painting and singing songs all day.
I went to university for most of my post high school studies then I did my fifth year in a private school : it costed me 7000 € a year. And I found it to be quite pricy. I am very thankfull to live in a country where education is free from the age of 3.
No such thing as free. I should know, I live in one.
I hope he amends whatever he owes her for supporting their child.
I’ve always gotten the gay vibe from Renner, to the point where he tries so hard to act like the macho male. His had that long term friend that has lived with him forever plus I felt the whole wife and Baby thing was some kind of an agreement that went wrong.
Agree 100%.
Yes, on everything you said.
Come on Jeremy. Come out.
Me too. I always thought this was some sort of bearding agreement gone wrong.
From the moment her pregnancy was made public there were so many predictions and promises about what would happen next based on a surrogacy or bearding arrangement. None of them came true and now people are going with ‘a bearding arrangement gone wrong’. It is so silly, it is just a real mess which would never happened if there had been any sort of planning involved.
This has always seemed to me to be a clusterwhoops between two people who did not know each other, boned a few times, and accidentally made a kid.
After everything that has happened, any other explanation would make Occam turn in his grave.
Nah I don’t agree with that. Just cause you have a bro that lives in with you in a huge pad doesn’t make you gay.
I don’t think the gay rumors come just from the live in bro. I mean it’s strange that a forty year old real estate mogul chose to live in his married friends guest house and share a kitchen with newly weds but maybe he never grew out of the frat boy thing. Datalounge and queerty did a great job of cataloging the evidence a few years ago, you can look it up. It wouldn’t matter if he was gay and bearding except for the sense that he used this woman as much as she used him and shouldnt have turned around after the baby was born to try and screw her.
It has been long known in Hollywood that he is gay. And no one cares or is judging him
for that.
Also, I believe his Ex is extorting him for
more money. He is so right in that statement— if she cannot raise a toddler on $330k per year (including day care and hired help) – she is doing something wrong and using their child as a pawn is disgusting.
My first living arrangement in LA was in the guest room of a mansion in Pacific Palisades. The house was owned by a man more than twice my age, it probably looked bad/fishy from the outside, I’m sure stuff got said behind my back that never got back to me. But he traveled a *lot* (at least two weeks out of every four), and I was there as basically a permanent house sitter. It’s not an unusual set up in LA, to have a “house guest”.
Or he could be bi. *shrugs*.
And don’t forget that sketchy situation where he got busted in a fight in a gar bar in Thailand, IIRC.
It wasn’t a gay bar, that blind item was utterly ridiculous.
@Aussie Girl, who wrote: “I hope he amends whatever he owes her for supporting their child. … I’ve always gotten the gay vibe from Renner, to the point where he tries so hard to act like the macho male. His had that long term friend that has lived with him forever plus I felt the whole wife and Baby thing was some kind of an agreement that went wrong.”
Agreed. I’ve said this all along. Jeremy Renner basically came out on top during the divorce hearing because his ‘friend/business partner” testified—in the cattiest way possible—to witnessing Ava drinking wine, doing drugs, and saying all manner of things with her child in the house. My question then was how could a ‘business partner’ who doesn’t live in the house, but rather in a Guest House on the property, know that much about what Ava was doing and have been privity to what she did in ‘her’ house where she lived with ‘her’ husband unless he was a constant fixture in the house?
In other words, I believed Ava when she said Jeremy Renner lied to her about what their marriage would be and didn’t live up to it after the ceremony. Instead, she probably took second chair to the ‘friend/business partner’ and may have soon realized who Jeremy Renner was actually in a committed relationship with … and it wasn’t her. The money he’s quoting as having paid Ava was probably a private lump sum to keep her quiet. His lawyer should have told him that hush money is separate from Court ordered child support payments.
Unlikely. He was has made 3 films, since their settlement was agreed and he has a busy production company and a marketing campaign. If he exceeds $2.3M he has to pay 5% of the excess. Lets say he has paid her $150K and she feels he owes another $50K, that would by 5% on $4M. That would give him an income after stoppages of $6.3M over a period that includes a very successful Marvel film. It is unlikely the money was a super secret bribe since his rep referred to it in her response.
(Face Palm) I meant ‘Sonni,’ not Ava … Sonny is Renner’s ex-wive. Sorry! I’m at home today (I moved Friday and took a couple of days off this week to recuperate) and I’m watching the pre-Tuesday National Democratic Convention coverage while I read and type.
@ Jellybean
He had a small part in Civil War. It’s unlikely his salary was as big as it was for avengers 2, where he had a more central role. Marvel pays on a sliding scale per film, if you’re doing a small part like he did for Civil War, you do not get bonus money and you get half your quote for a principal role. So there’s no way he made as much as he did for Avengers 2.
True Algernon, but that was just one source of income and his agreed child support is a far more likely explanation than the secret ‘hush’ money which is brought out as an explanation every time a settlement doesn’t go as predicted by gossip sites. I will be very surprised if a blind items on the subject does not appear tomorrow.
I just wonder if it could be a case that he paid her an increased amount for a few months because he made a lot, and now he’s not making as much, so the amount went down, but she’s still insisting he owes her. Also, I don’t know the details of their arrangement, but just based on 13K as a baseline, if he really has paid her 300K, that’s way more than she’s owed, even if you count him paying her for all of 2015.
I suspect he has added up all the regular payments for last year and added on the extras, it must be the sort of figure that would remain fixed in the mind. When do you do your tax returns in the US? I would imagine that would be the time to assess if he cleared more than $2.3M, but If there is no set agreement on when and how any additional money is paid it could cause friction. I am sure it will be explained when his lawyer files the response. Her last accusations came to nothing, chances are the same will happen here.
@Jellybean … This is what Jeremy Renner said:
“I’m not sure why you keep coming after more money here Sonni. I don’t have the cash to give you. I’m sorry you can’t figure out how to care for [Ava] with over 300k.”
He didn’t say, “I’m sorry you can’t figure out how to care for Ava on the Child Support I’ve given you” or “I’ve already paid around $300K in child support, why can’t you make it work?” He said, “I’m sorry you can’t figure out how to care for Ava with over $300K.” That’s sounds like a specific lump sum of money he quoted, and not child support.
According to “Celebrity Networth,” Jeremy Renner’s net worth is estimated to be $35 million (as of June 2015). He won’t go broke paying his daughter’s tuition.
Emma, it was a text. I am sure he wasn’t expecting it to be used against him in a court of law. If he had realized it was going to be used against him I am sure he would have chosen his words more carefully.
Also, it doesn’t matter how much money he has, they made an agreement. If he is not following the agreement he needs a slap on the wrist. If she he is pressurizing him for additional payments then she needs to stop. Renner’s father has two children around the same age as Ava and he and his wife have taken them on year long, low budget educational and cultural tour of North America. Renner idolizes his father and everything he says and shows suggests he is taking a similar hands on approach to educating Ava, within the limitations of shared custody. If Sonni chooses a classroom over that during her time with the child the she should pay for it, not Renner. It is a completely different matter once Ava reaches the age of compulsory education or the age agreed to in the divorce settlement.
I feel like.. if she’s asking u I’m to pay than she doesn’t have the money and for the sake of his daughters education he should just do it. That having been said.. my tater tot starts Pre-K soon… I’m going to be so sad and so relieved lol! Only one baby to take care of during the day!
Mine will be going to pre-school this fall! I’m so nervous about it, but like you–relieved!
Don’t be nervous! My oldest is starting 4th grade. The first day is the worst and then you realize the magic of it. Just talk to them a lot about it so they aren’t scared.
Aw. Tater Tot will love it … it’s like going to the club to hang out with your friends all day!
If she has had over $300K this year then she should be able to pay for a pre-school if that is where she wants to put the child during her half of the week.
13 K in child support?? 1300 is a tenth of that. It’s child support not dead beat mother support.
It also appeared that Renner had the daughter all summer, including while he was filming. Wouldn’t he not pay her child support during those months? Is that where the 48 grand is coming from? 13 grand a month plus some (celebrity priced) expenses for the three summer months? Deadbeat is always an option, but why would he start that now? The whole thing blew over and they were co parenting tolerably well. I don’t get why he wouldn’t be paying the preschool tuition. That’s what he spends on hair care products in a month. I think there’s more going on here.
He is obligated to pay child support even if he shares custody. The fees are calculated in regards to both time spent and the income of both parents.
Thanks. Disregard then. Still think there’s more to it than we’re being shown.
It was an acrimonious divorce. It’s not unheard off for people to persist with the pettiness years after the court ruling. He clearly thinks of her as a money grabber so I wouldn’t be surprised if he occasionally thinks up ways to get back at her just for a laugh.
If he has paid her over $300K for the year then he is paying more than the regular $13K a month. That is probably because he has earned over a certain limit. If he has already paid her an at least an extra $144K then it could be the $48K is being contested or is an installment she hasn’t had yet. I would be very very surprised if anything comes from this.
Their settlement requires that he pays 5 percent of any income over 2.5M as additional child support. This isn’t a favor to his kid or her mum, it’s a court order. I also believe that this deal was conditioned on an NDA from her. I am also sure that the court issued deadlines for the 5 percent remission. The likely reason, they have clocked 300k is that he paid the 5 percent from last year’s income in the first half of this year. That remission doesn’t replace the 13k monthly cheque though.
The court will view this as a man unilaterally deciding to pay what HE thinks she needs rather than what is instructed. His retort about the 300k will play against him in that situation. (All assuming he has paid 300 of course)
@ Naya
Assuming that’s what has happened. It could be just as likely he paid a higher scale earlier in the year based on 2015 earnings, as you said, and then decreased payments since his 2016 earnings may not be as great so far (he’s worked less this year). Who knows what kind of math both sides are using.
@Algernon, who wrote: “It could be just as likely he paid a higher scale earlier in the year based on 2015 earnings, as you said, and then decreased payments since his 2016 earnings may not be as great so far (he’s worked less this year).”
People keep saying “He hasn’t worked much this year” as if he’s pulling a regular bi-weekly or monthly salary instead of getting paid ‘millions’ per film. According to his IMDb page, Jeremy Renner has one film in pre-production (the next “Mission Impossible” film) and two films in post-production–one to be released later this year and one to be released in 2017.
As I posted to @Jellybean above, Renner’s net worth was estimated at $35 million in June 2015 by “Celebrity Networth.” The house flipping business he supposedly co-owns with his live-in ‘business partner.’ What Judge will believe that Renner doesn’t have the cash to give her for preschool tuition?
@ Emma
Actors are only paid for time they’re on set, so he’s not currently drawing money for “pre” or “post” production projects. He has sold some TV shows, so there will be income from that (probably drawn as salary from his production company), and the real estate business just depends on how much he’s reinvesting in other properties. I could very easily see him being cash poor, if he’s funneling most of his income back into the business (especially if he’s doing so deliberately, to keep his income down to spite his ex).
I’m not trying to excuse a deadbeat dad, but we really have no idea what’s going on here. The 300K could be how much he’s already paid her, it could be her total net assets she’s expected to live on. It could be that he estimated payments for the entire year and paid her 300K, and she’s saying, actually that’s not right and halfway through the year, you’re off by almost 50K. A judge will sort it out.
He should pay for preschool if they as co-parents have decided their kid should be in preschool. it doesn’t sound like they have a common agreement on that. Personally, I think preschool is beneficial, but a lot of people, especially when there are stay at home parents, don’t think it is. That’s something they need to sort out, and hopefully if/when they do, he pays his share.
What I’m not down with is the idea that *anyone* should just hand over cash unchallenged. The family law courts are designed to sort out these various scenarios. They should let a judge work it, I’m just playing with a calculator and trying to solve a puzzle while home sick.
I think she’s a hustler. As sketchy and gross as I personally find Jeremy to be, I think she’s been out for the check since day one. He isn’t a deadbeat dad, as far as I have seen in the gossip stories here, so I just don’t think there is merit to her claims. If she chooses to send her daughter to private school. and it’s not something in their divorce stipulation (although, usually, school tuitions are considered when awarding child support) then she needs to budget her money to include the cost of the school.
Also, if he did in fact have his daughter for the summer, and was still paying child support, that also should have given her ample time to save, not incurring day to day childcare costs during that time period.
Does she have a job? If not, maybe it’s time she finds one.
As a woman who went through a nasty divorce with a high powered, well monied man, I don’t have respect for women who expect a *free ride* on behalf of their child. Not sure this is the case either.
^^Yes. Everything.
I don’t find him handsome, charming, or even to be a really great dude, but being labeled a dead beat dad couldn’t seem further from the truth from what I’ve seen.
@Little Darling, @Mari, and @Java …
Sonni listed ‘fraud’ on Jeremy Renner’s part in her divorce filing. I’m not sure ‘she’ was the user in the relationship. I think she discovered that she was a ‘Beard’ only and had expected it to be a true marriage.
And the lawyers here can say if this is true or not, but I believe he still has to pay child support even if Sonni gets a job because whatever kind of job she gets won’t net her a fraction of Renner’s Court Ordered child support.
@ Emma
Fraud is a means of having a prenup dismissed. It’s a way of saying, “This agreement was made under false pretenses,” and it usually means hiding assets in order to establish a lower baseline of potential future alimony. Her fraud claim did not work and his prenup was upheld.
I don’t know if she could make 13K a month, but she was a reasonably successful lingerie model. She did ad campaigns and had spokesmodel gigs. She could make a comfortable living for herself. He should absolutely pay what he owes, and if he really is in arrears, he should pay up. But I think this has always been about money for her, and it will always be about money, and he will never pay enough to satisfy.
@Algernon
I do agree that with her it was always about the money. But i also believe he used her for both her uterus and to suppress the gay rumors. He knew it was about the money for her, in fact he counted on it. He assumed she would hang around for a few years at least for the lifestyle atleast but she surprised him by filing for divorce barely ten months into it. Like I said when we first heard that Amber Heard had filed for divorce, this is not a standard gold diggger move. Something pushed her into abandoning her golden egg. It could be anything but I think its the gay stuff. I dont believe she was fully briefed on her expected role or her position in the hierarchy in that home. So I think he is mega pissed that she walked and almost ruined the illusion he tried to create. He likes to punish her for it by being extra petty with the money.
@Naya, who wrote: “It could be anything but I think its the gay stuff. I dont believe she was fully briefed on her expected role or her position in the hierarchy in that home. So I think he is mega pissed that she walked and almost ruined the illusion he tried to create. He likes to punish her for it by being extra petty with the money.”
Yep, this is what I believe as well.
Totally agree with you. Plus you add that his family and business partner have retired from social media or made their accounts private before this story broke, sums up to your hypothesis. There is something more. Maybe they were fine and a disagreement again with his business partner made her ask for this and Jeremy engages on it and loses his charm.
I think it’s standard for both sets of parents to pay for half of educational costs, isn’t it? At least that’s how it was handled for my step-kids–we pay half, their mother pays half.
It sounds like that’s their arrangement, too (“Sonni Pacheco says Jeremy time and again refuses to pay **his half** of the $1,600 monthly preschool tuition). If so, he needs to step up and take care of his kid.
That is probably because she thinks the child should go to preschool and he doesn’t. It wasn’t covered in the divorce and she is only 3, so if Renner takes care of her himself during his half of the week why should he pay so his ex can send her to pre-school for the rest of the time? His ex gets a minimum of $156K a year to pay for expenses like that.
There’s no way of really knowing if that’s the case or not, unless he comes out and states it (or she does). Pre-school is generally only a couple hours a day at that age, and sometimes only a couple days a week, and is very good for kids–it gives them a nice head start.
You are right and we will probably not know for sure, but look at his instagram. He is teaching her to swim, to play the piano, to ride, how to grow veg. He is constantly going on about learning and confidence building. I would be very surprised if he would give up even a few hours a week with her. Plus there are loads of young kids around to play with.
The divorce drama, “dinged” his rep…
And the BW comments…
And the doubling-down on said comments after releasing an “apology”…
And the dubious response to sexism/equal pay…
And the “favorite cuss word” being an insult to a woman…
Yeah. “Dings.” A lot of dings…
It is worth noting that every single one of those occured after she filed for divorced and before the final settlement. It is also worth noting that she settled very quickly after she was accused of blackmailing him into accepting her demands which included sole physical custody and that the prenup be over turned. She did deny some of the accusations he made against her, but not the black mail and none of her demands were met. I think he had a very bad year with not much sleep and a lot of anger. Not an excuse for some of the things he said and did, but it couldn’t have helped.
No matter their cause or reason, I pointed to these things, (indirect) insults to his paying female audience, as maybe just as if not more significant dings to his now “creepy” reputation than a contentious HW divorce effecting only he and her (& baby girl). If anything, the whole union, arrangement, rumored “triangle,” or WHATEVER seemed to start the “WTF is UP with this dude?” dinging…
Good actor, though, so…{{shrug}}
You are quite right, but it is so common for women to make aggressively anti male statements, citing their own relationship experiences as justification. It can go both ways and compassion can be lacking. Just because a man might not talk about it or show obvious signs of distress, it doesn’t mean they aren’t in bits. As for the other stuff? 90% of gossip is rubbish and to me a guy who has such a close family and so many loyal and loving friends has to have some good to him, even if he is a bit rough around the edges.
Preschool for a three year old is child care not education. During his half of the week if he is looking after her personally why should he have to pay the costs when the child is with her mother, surely that is the point of child support?
Few daycare places charge by the day at that rate – it’s a monthly fee, whether he has her or she does. I imagine he uses the daycare when he has her, too anyway. If the divorce says he pays, he should just pay.
According to his rep’s response pre-school was not part of the divorce settlement and I really do doubt he uses it at all, since he seems to be all about time with family and his is massive, with many living close by.
@ Melody
I think he has a nanny who is on staff when he has his daughter no need for a daycare.
I cam here to say that first line. A child doesn’t legally have to go to school until 5, which is kindergarten. Anything before the age of 3 is daycare, 3-4 is early childhood program, which isn’t required.
If you live in a place like New York (possibly LA; I’m not sure, since I’ve never lived there), pre-school is most definitely part of a child’s education. You can’t get your kids into a decent private elementary or high school without getting them into a good, reputable pre-school first. I’m not sure what it’s like where Sonni/Jeremy are raising their daughter, but it’s important to keep in mind that things work differently in different parts of the country.
@Samtha, who wrote: “If you live in a place like New York (possibly LA; I’m not sure, since I’ve never lived there), pre-school is most definitely part of a child’s education. You can’t get your kids into a decent private elementary or high school without getting them into a good, reputable pre-school first.”
That is increasingly the formula for getting your child into good schools … starting with pre-school. Getting your child into the ‘right’ preschool gets them into the right primary, grade, junior high, and high schools. Attending preschool also helps kids learn social skills earlier as well.
Totally agree Jellybean.
This is why he got married in the first place. Because deep down he already knew he ‘knocked up’ a hustler. If he hadn’t married her to get joint custody, where would his daughter be now??
I have zero respect for ‘get pregnant and live off a man forever’ women like these. Imagine expecting another human being to financially provide for you forever, just because you chose to have children? Bizarre!
Many men in these situations are simply miserable. Heavens, I would be!
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jul/02/a-letter-to-my-wife-who-wont-get-a-job-while-i-work-myself-to-death
The whole pre-school tuition cost thing always freaks me the hell out. OH MY GOD. I went to the most expensive university in the province and for a full year of full-time tuition (there were plenty of other costs and fees that I’m not including) I paid around 7k I think? I can’t imagine having to fork out so much money for pre-school! PRE-SCHOOL.
I mean – I get that he’s a celebrity, and it’s different based on his income. But still – OH MY GOD.
Unfortunately pre-school can cost a lot – even in Canada, for perfectly normal folk, not celebs. We are in a TO suburb and the Montessori we sent our son to was Cad$1,300/month. Then there are the costs of uniform, school trips, special lunches (food is not included, you either pack your child a meal and snacks or subscribe to a hot lunch program which costs extra), and so on.
For a celeb, the $13,000/month is actually not that much, we have friends whose child support payments are much higher than that.
It’s insane – I mean, I get how it can add up, but it’s a big pill to swallow haha. I live in small town NS – when I was in pre-school, my parents literally sent me to the YMCA for ‘primetime’. The difference is – we don’t have any competitive school systems in our area. Just normal, rural and town public schools. I was always at the top end of my classes in elementary school too – but I think ultimately we live in an area without great education offerings.
I can see how quickly it would add up in places with private schools, and competitive paths. I think it’s mainly hard to wrap my head around because there just aren’t programs LIKE that where I am living.
Your friends much be rich. No one I know even makes 156k a year let alone makes enough that that would be the yearly child support payments.
Calgary here…. and thou I don’t have kids myself … my co-workers are paying anywhere from $900-$1300/mth for varying levels of childcare (part-time / full-time etc) for their pre-school children.
As far as I am aware, from the mutterings of said co-workers … the pre-school costs have nothing to do with “the right preschools” for the “right competitive schools” thereafter … it’s merely the cost of child care (whether it’s a dayhome, pre-school or daycare centre!)
I know preschool and daycare etc are a lot of money but I think it should cost more than university as its for the most vulerable people. A child under 5 requires a lot more attention and actual care than a college aged adult.
It’s interesting that daycare and preschool costs so much, but the workers get paid so little. At least in the U.S., I think the average salary is about 28k for a preschool teacher.
Maybe an arts degree should be cheap, but any science-based university course requires ridiculously expensive materials. Your average school of Physics or Health would have lab equipment costing $5-10 million at least. Lego is expensive, but not as expensive as that.
Goldie – right now, our local minimum wage is $10.70 – I think it just passed through that early childhood education workers will be receiving a minimum of 16/hr. Not sure when it will take effect, but they definitely have things looking up for them around here. Still not a super high salary – but it’s going to be higher in areas with higher costs of living. For where I live, that’s a pretty good – we have a relatively low cost of living.
Is this lady the one who was allegedly a former escort? Either way homeboy needs to pay up. He has Avengers money. Not to mention she can spill the beans re:his sexuality.
I’ve always wanted to know what dirt and connections Jeremy has that he has managed to get in on so many franchises and A-List films when he only had Hurt Locker to his name a few years ago. He’s not exactly a young pretty boy type or anything. He also didn’t have years of build up either.
He already had two oscar nomination by the time he was offered a role in The Avengers.
There is no dirt or connections. Renner is a good actor. He’s been around for years. He’s paid his dues.
^^ This. I don’t care for Renner–he seems like a jerk in interviews–but he’s a great actor. He doesn’t need dirt to get roles.
This. I greatly dislike what we’ve seen of his actual personality, but I’ve always thought he was very good in everything I’ve seen him in.
The MCU does not pay well so this. He probably makes more from Mission Impossible. But this idea that he should pay her so that she doesn’t “spill the beans” about his sexuality is offensive and promotes blackmail.
A person’s orientation is his own business. Blackmail is a crime. And if the custody agreement didn’t stipulate pre-school at this age, he owes nothing.
He doesn’t care about his sexuality. If he did, we’d see a harem of women on his arm. As it is, we don’t because he doesn’t feel this overwhelming need to prove he’s heterosexual. He also doesn’t see anything wrong with being gay, which seems to be the basis for all of these rumors. He’s just a 45 yo guy with a refurbishing business that brings him in more money than what he makes in movies. He takes care of his daughter when she’s with him, and Sonni can pay for preschool when she has Ava. This is a money grab and it’ll fail like all of her other attempts to extort money from him. He has her locked down legally.
^^^^This.
Agreed.
There are a lot of dead beat dads out there in the world that are skipping out on $300 month payments, where the single mom is having trouble just keeping food on the table and a roof over their kid’s head and actually receiving that $300 would be EPIC. (and vice versa, Dead Beat Moms exist too)
This woman is receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from Renner. I don’t care if he has Marvel $. That little girl is well taken care of. To call him a dead beat dad is an insult to every single parent that is struggling and isn’t getting help.
Also- I wish the 2 of them would stop with the public mudslinging. Ava WILL grow up, and WILL read this crap someday. They need to stop.
He did have years of build up, though. Everyone in the industry knew who he was. He was a well regarded character actor for years.
I don’t get how he comes across as the creepy one for ensuring that his daughter is in his life, and he doesn’t have to pay a user/liar/golddigger for that privilege.
This^^
Exactly what I came here to say. I don’t know the ins and outs of their divorce, but it seems to me like he’s truly wanting to be in his daughter’s life, and I can’t pick him apart for that. If he has issues with baby mama that’s one thing, but he’s not letting his daughter go without food, clothing, housing, etc. This sounds more and more like a shakedown.
+1
I am astounded at how much preschool costs. I could never afford that.
My niece goes to preschool thru the local school district & it’s free….
I’m the oldest of four, & only one of us went to preschool. It was b/c my sis had speech therapy. Then she “graduated” from it. Where I grew up you had your kids assessed for preschool thru your local school district. The assessment was to see if the child was meeting their milestones, & if not, they would go to preschool.
I’ll likely follow a similar pattern w/ our son. He’s only turning 2 in November, so we’ve got some time yet to figure it out.
This preschool sounds like it’s either a voluntary “fun” part-time thing for their daughter or a pre-school that’s full-time or part-time daycare. In the US, free pre-school only exists if you’re very poor and your kid is in a Head Start or similar program. Or, if you work for a large and very progressive organization that considers it part of your benefits package (those are rare).
For the vast majority of Americans, daycare of any sort is entirely privately paid for, though there are several tax refunds. I had a tax-free fund for the first $5,000. But out of $12,000 a year total, it only saved me about $1,800. And I live in Denver, which is a smallish city where child care is more expensive than rural areas, but much less expensive than larger cities like LA, DC, and NYC.
$1,600 is exhorbitant, but unfortunately it’s also what daycare costs for regular folk, as well. That’s not a gold-plated pacifier tuition.
In 1992 I was paying $800 a month for daycare.
I’ve always thought Jeremy Renner was creepy. I’m old school thinking he’s creepy
I said it upthread to someone else’s comment, but preschool is not legally required. I don’t think Renner is a jerk/creepy/whathaveyou for now wanting to pay an insane amount of money for someone to watch his kid. School is not legally required before the age of 5, which is kindergarten. I have a child Ava’s age, if Sonny somehow cannot manage to raise a kid, pay all of her expenses (for both of them), and pay for school for $13,000, I seriously wonder what she does with her money. I live in a very HCOL area in NYC, pay for preschool, rent car etc blah blah, and we don’t make $13k a month and we’re more than okay at the end of the month.
“I said it upthread to someone else’s comment, but preschool is not legally required”
No, not legally. But it is really good for the kids. Both my husband and I work outside the home, so my daughter was in daycare as soon as my maternity leave was up. She was with a family friend she adored her. Still, we sent her to a preschool at 4, so that she would have that experience of schedules, and socializing etc for one year BEFORE Kindergarten. I think it was very good for her.
Granted, stay at home parents could “manufacture” the same experience by creating a similar learning schedule at home and arranging play dates. And if you live in an area where preschool isn’t “expected”, then maybe in those areas Kindergarten takes care of that part. In my experience, in MA, she needed preschool. To go from a home situation straight to Kindergarten would have been tough on her. They cram a LOT into the year at Kindergarten.
I just think that if the kid has Renner for a parent, with his means, sending the child to preschool is not a crazy “splurge”.
Their daughter isn’t 4 until next year and Renner clearly has learning and confidence building on his mind during his half of the week; it is a common theme on his instagram. I think the point is that if she wants to put the kid into pre-school rather than have her at home then it is her choice and since she has apparently banked more than $300K this year, she can afford to pay for her own child care.
He is such a creep (let’s not forget he’s a sexist pig too). I refuse to see anything he’s in except for the Marvel movies and I really wish they’d stop putting him in those.
His wife has accused him in court and in the tabloids of a lot of things, and she has lost every single time. Maybe the guy deserves the benefit of the doubt.
It isn’t like whether or not he is honoring his part of their settlement can’t be proven, so instead of assuming that he’s a deadbeat because the woman who has lied and blackmailed him in the past said so, maybe it would be best to wait and see what happens in court.
I’m in the minority that likes Renner. He’s a great actor when he’s given great material, and sure, the only glimpse into his relationship with his daughter is what I see on-line, but it sure seems that he loves that little girl.
I also really wish the gay thing would stop coming up every time he is mentioned here or on any other gossip site. Is he gay? Bi? Straight? Who knows? I’ve never been in his bedroom while he’s getting it on, but if he is and he doesn’t want to come out, who are we to insist that he does? With him, it gets used as a punchline and a way to insult him, and I find that a little weird. He doesn’t owe us a coming out party, and quite frankly, I’ve enjoyed his answers every time he’s been asked about it.
I do agree. How are things going to change in an environment where, once people decide another person is gay, they feel free to use it to insult and judge them because of it? They hide behind the argument that the person is a hypocrite, but they still make the most offensive remarks about that person and, worse still, any member of the opposite sex that they associate with. Those people disgust me.
It’s tough out there for an ex beard.
$156k a YEAR and she can’t pay for the child’s tuition with a fraction of that total? Please!
He definitely gets the benefit of the doubt from me on that issue. She can live within the means of $156k a year, school fees included. Hell most people throughout the entire world live on less than that when they are actually EARNING their salary.
It all depends on their court agreement, but I think splitting any educational or medical expenses is fair. Preschool is not a requirement, but it’s a good thing for many kids.
$13K/ month is a lot, but considering his income, it’s not huge. I don’t like him as a person, but I don’t think “deadbeat” applies here at all.
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So he’s paying the agreed prenup which is $300k down payment agreed before they got married andas thy say divorce lawyers take into account extra stuff like kids which might change things… whick is $13k a month – which is every month so 156k a year. So the mother is saying that her total income of the first year (456k) plus her own income isn’t enough to cover $1,500 of education that was already probably addressed in divorce predecings and either accounted for by the judge or thrown out because they they thought it was miniscule amount compared to the larger settlement and covered under that. Also if he was a real deadbeat dad or just being cheap I think his argument would be “why am I paying you $13k every month when she lives with me 50% of the time and I’m still paying you as well as the money I spend when she’s with me?” Because thatsthe easier/bigger argument… The debate over 1,500 may make him seem petty in the short view but in the longer view it seems like the struggle of a man who’s willing to pay a lot of money to support his daughter and meet the agreement he made with his ex wife but also is trying to take a stand against a woman trying to squeeze him for pennies in an attempt to make him look bad to the media.
She tried to get the prenup thrown out, she demanded $20K a month, she demanded sole custody and now this seems like an ongoing war of attrition. I wander if the courts can offer any form of protection when this happens.
Renner is rich. His ex wife isn’t. He can very well pay for his daughter’s education. This isn’t about a bigger house or getting Ava a pony. This is about Ava’s education and path towards better schools. I don’t understand how a parent could begrudge her this. If he’s afraid this is Sonni’s attempt to use his money then he can very well set up a fund in her name to manage the money to pay for her education.
His Ex-wife isn’t?? The woman who is getting $300k a year?? Wow!
‘This isn’t about a bigger house or getting Ava a pony’…..no, it’s about a shakedown – pure and simple!
Yeah, I don’t see it as such. Private schools do take a big interest at which pre schools and Ks you’ve attended.