Kim Kardashian and Kanye West cover the September issue of Harper’s Bazaar (US), which we covered a few weeks ago. Bazaar apparently did a range of special coverage with Kimye for the issue though, which is why Bazaar released this new exclusive, in which Kim and Kanye talk about fashion and each other. Both sides of the conversation are kind of bizarrely fascinating – you can read the full piece here. Some assorted (krazy) quotes.
Kim on becoming more fashion-forward: “It was such a challenge at the beginning, no one would send clothes—they didn’t even think that I would fit a sample size. They would see photos and just think that I was super curvy. Even now there are some designers that swear that I will never fit in a sample size. I’m a size two. I happen to be curvy, but for some reason I’m the master of squeezing into anything, and so it’s fun to see when a designer finally sends something and they’re like, “Wait, she really fit in that sample size.” It’s hard to find things that are unique and also fit my body type, and that are ahead of the curve and ahead of the game.”
Kim on Kanye’s influence: “I love always elevating and trying new things and I think that’s where Kanye comes in, because I swear he sees everything a few steps ahead of anyone else. Kanye is a big part of my fashion story and my fashion transformation. He’s my best stylist. Every look I love is definitely something that he’s had a hand in helping to style or put together. My friends and my sisters will say, “I’ve never met anyone like you two who will just sit in a closet for hours and try on clothes and cut things up and redesign them.” We just love it, and we spend a lot of time on it. We do put a lot of effort into the looks and trying to stay ahead of the game.”
Kanye on influence & inspiration: “My heroes are people who have been in a position to shape our world. The influencers have been my biggest inspiration, and my biggest fight is to have this level of influence, this undeniable level of influence, and the fear of losing the influence before gaining the ticket to freedom. It’s balancing what it takes to become a celebrity—which is a very powerful platform as an influencer—but also to be able to say, “Hey, I’m an influencer, but I also have ideas,” which is sometimes hard for people to get past. Whenever I meet people, there are so many things that have been put in their mind about me, it’s hard to talk pass that.
Kanye on Jesus times: “Every time I go out I want to embrace this incredible opportunity I’ve had to live my dreams as a musician, but [I also want to be] at this level of relevance 20 years into my career, to still be burning at the top level. I think that I’m really close to—if not at the center of—changes in our time. I make the most sought after sneaker, and we’re within 100 years of the sneaker being created. You think of Roman times, or Jesus times, and the first word that comes to mind is ‘robes.’ People will look back at our time 1,000 years from now and they’ll say ‘sneakers.’”
Kanye on his wife: “My wife is the face of the change of fashion, where designers who literally wouldn’t let her sit in shows are now making entire collections based off of her shape. It’s funny, for Kim to be photographed so much, [she] represents our modern day Marie Antoinette. She gets hair and makeup every day, not just for a photo shoot. Why? Because every day is a photo shoot. I’ve built a company that has value against all odds. Every idea I have, I have to do it, I have to stand by it, I have to win….I have 22 Grammys, but I’ve never won against a white person. I only win in black categories. Think about that. And another thing that’s disturbing to me is that when you work in fashion, because I have a ‘lower cred’ in fashion, sometimes I find myself getting bullied by creatives. People try to force their ideas on me or use me as a platform, to use me to get paid, to use my name, and also just to get their idea out. And there’s times where I reach my breaking point.
The quote that everyone is running with is “Kim represents our modern day Marie Antoinette,” which is a great quote, but I actually think Kanye’s conversation about how he’s underestimated and looked down on because of his race is important too. It’s true – Kanye has always gotten a mountain of disrespect from many “legitimate” people in the fashion industry, and the disrespect is partially racial. I also don’t think Kanye is saying that Kim is like Marie Antoinette in a historical way, as in, Marie Antoinette is largely seen, through a historical lens, as a cautionary tale about unchecked power, excess and extravagance. That’s not how Kanye meant it. He meant to say that Kim is comparable to Marie Antoinette because they were/are both historic tastemakers and cultural icons of their respective eras. I think. But either way, the comparison is… problematic, let’s say.
Here are some pics of Marie Antoinette leaving her plastic surgeon/Botoxolist’s office earlier this week. She was having her “skin tightened.”
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet and Karl Lagerfeld/Harper’s Bazaar.
Ack! Please leave the queen’s name out of this, she doesn’t deserve the comparison.
If it were anyone else I would say they do not know who Marie Antoinette was, but since you can find Kanye West under the description of the word delusional in the vocabulary, that sounds about right. Well the bright side is, this statement may have forced Kim to google someone else apart herself
Brilliant comment lol
I cant believe you swallowed his nonsense- he gets disrespect from the fashion industry because he deserves nothing else- he designs crap. There is nothing racist about it – he sucks as a designer and people who praise him have “the emperor has no clothes” syndrome.
He faces a lot of stigma in a lot of different arenas because of race. I don’t think it’s just confined to design but yeah, I think the fashion industry eschews the origins of urban style or simply colonizes and appropriates the styles of people of color all the time and I don’t think Kanye is any exception. The Marie Antoinette statement was kind of goofy in the historical sense, but I disagree with the way he meant it. I think Kim is adventurous with clothes but I don’t think she starts any trends or sets the mode either.
This times 10000000
Seriously ? He does realize that isn’t a good thing, yes? Well he will have people googling…they will eventually read words like ‘out of touch, extravagant, Bastille & eventually guillotine…. But never did she say “Let them eat cake”
He has no idea who he has just flattered. He is not a man who moves past the initial stages of knowing a popular name; I sense he feels quite satisfied when he simply spells one correctly. Google and all.
He must have just learned or discovered who Marie Antoinette was! LoL, They must pay out a lot of money to get the press coverage they have.
I’m not sure she would condone cake
marie-antoinette was beheaded. kanye is such a fool.
Marie Antoinette was reviled for her extravagance, her willful ignorance, her inability to grasp what was going on around her (socially and politically) and her ability to only concentrate on herself to the detriment of her family and country. Actually, Kim is the new Marie Antoinette. As to Kanye getting a hard time from the fashion world, it would help if he designed a decent collection. To date his collections have been atrocious.
Kanye’s major problem is that he designs truly ugly clothes and shows them in unappealing ways. If he were a good designer, he would be respected in today’s fashion world. They aren’t all pale. Besides, I thought Kanye said racism is obsolete….
From what I’ve heard, he does have good designs for sneakers, though. Not in a position to judge myself. But his stuff is generally so expensive. He needs to think more about his market if he really wants to make a big impact. His statements just seem so contradictory.
When he compared Kim to Marie Antoinette, my first thought was “isn’t that the one who was beheaded?!?”
Kim’s remarks about Kanye as her stylist and her being a size 2 and being able to squeeze into everything seem so delusional. No, Kim, you can’t squeeze into everything and still look good (or breathe comfortably). And Kanye has been dressing you to look bizarre and ugly. You do much better on your own.
Seriously! I read the headline and thought he doesn’t know history. This sounds like an insult to me. As for the fashion criticism, Kanye has such delusions of grandeur. He can’t understand that his designs are crap. He expects everyone to fall to his feet and praise everything he does because it’s his designs.
I LOVE fashion and have been following it for a long time. Ever since these K people decided they are now fashion people have ruined following the fashion industry for me. I used to enjoy that I could follow fashion and not see them on those sites. Sad face 🙁
You’re right about the Queen’s reputation and reception, but imagine if you were a young teen, ripped from her country and friends to satisfy some diplomatic arrangement you cared nothing about, forced into a loveless marriage, and surrounded with opulence and bloated with money… I mean, do you know many young-ish girls who wouldn’t take advantage. (Sure, her mistakes were often at the expense of French nationals, but how much about that do you think she really knew?)
GTGirl … Absolutely brilliant response.
Finally someone who knows history
I have alot of sympathy for MA, BUT history is littered with women who came in similar circumstandes who had the intelligence to turn the lemons that had been forced on them into lemonade.
She never made any efforts to turn her ship around and modern people give her a pass for it.
Catherine De Medici had to endure 11yrs of being completely ignored and made fun of when she arrived in France as her husband and his various mistresses frolicked and enjoyed themselves around her.
She didn’t shirk governing when her sons couldn’t rule for various reasons. And she was really hated.
MA was completely ill-suited for the position she found herself, but in a brutal world, she can’t be judged by our soft standards. She was weak and she had no judgement unlike her own mother Marie Theresa.
You can tell he is a proud non reader of books! Bring on the guillotine! The most believable line is Kanye loving hanging out in the closet. Come out K!
Actually, Marie-Antoinette was hated because she was Austrian, because her family and France had been at war for decades and that wedding was supposed to be the peace treaty. She never had a chance. She was shipped in a foreign country that hated everything about her family to marry a child who had no idea what to do of his wife. She was a very lonely person for a very long time, unable to know who she could trust. All the “let them have cake” stuff is a lie. Was she delusional and extravagant? Were her parties quite over the top (though probably not the orgies some suggested)? Of course, she was the Queen! She did her job: she had babies. But while she was vilified, the French Revolution is not her fault, Voltaire and others have already started the motion way before her birth, the famines were not her fault, if anything, her husband and his counsellors were the ones to blame (and were rightfully so).
All this to say: Marie-Antoinette was not worst than any of the Royals of that time. Though while she definitely influenced fashion, I still don’t understand why Kanye would make this comparison, there’s no happy ending there.
I’m fully aware that she never said, “Let them eat cake.” I’m also aware that she was disliked for being Austrian. However, she refused to take the time to understand the reality of her adopted country and indulged herself in extravagant pastimes (gambling, dresses, etc.). According to most scholarly works that delve into her character, she was lonely, not that smart, devoted to her children, unable to see the connections between her actions and the resulting impacts on others, and indulging herself in playing at having a romanticized simple life at Petit Trianon rather than behave like a queen.
She was someone born wealthy and never understood what it meant to be poor. The “let them eat cake” was her ignorance/out of touch with the poor. She actually thought eating cake was an option, if they didn’t have bread.
Funny but I’ve been thinking Trump is a better comparison to Marie A.
Arpeggi, thank you for a more balanced take on Marie Antoinette. Another misnomer is MA’s spending bankrupted the country. It was actually France’s financial aid to us in the American Revolution. She also had the burden – enforced by her mother – of being a go between for Austria. It also took her husband something like seven years to consummate their marriage, so she endured that humiliation and speculation on her fertility.
@mayamae, you’re welcome! It’s actually funny to think that I, who was born into a very French socialist/communist family, has somehow to defend MA! I think that the whole concept of royal families is completely ridiculous; to think that God would put someone in charge of leading a nation, then change Its mind and put it’s second cousin twice removed and then someone else from another country that invaded your nation, yeah, it’s utter BS…
But to understand how people thought, you also need to understand that that was exactly what they believed. MA and the rest of the Court were fairly oblivious of how much the commoners were suffering because that’s how they were raised, they were raised into wealth and privileges and to think that God sent them to rule. She was definitely not that smart, she probably had learning disabilities because she had a very hard time learning French as a child despite having access to great masters. She was hated before she even set a foot in France, her husband was more interested in clockwork than in putting a baby in her belly (which, somehow, was her fault) and had no one to teach her how the court worked, no one she could trust amongst the ladies that were attending her. If that hadn’t been the case, maybe she could have behaved better. But it didn’t happen because the French court was already crumbling. The country was on the brink of bankruptcy ever since the last decades of Louis XIV’s reign. The wars with the Brits and the Austrians, the loss of colonies in the Americas, the extravagant lifestyle of the court (building Versailles was not cheap), the financing of the American Revolution, all this contributed to the country’s terrible finances. Also having all the powers concentrated into on person’s hand can only last for so long (the Brits were forced to realize that earlier on). It worked for Louis XIV because he had great counsellors and was smart, but Louis XV was an idiot and Louis XVI was clueless. That is what caused the Revolution, not MA’s extravagances.
Marie-Antionette was actually quite a generous and compassionate woman. It is more likely that she would offer a hungry person food than disparage them. The ‘cake’ quote can be traced back before her. I believe it was used against Louis XIV’s wife. In any case, it is an easy cliche. Arpeggio is spot-on; Laura, you are mistaken.
Yeah, I’ve heard that history around her is EXTREMELY distorted. She was always going to hated by the French because she was Austrian, and she was a young noble girl who didn’t seem especially intelligent or talented in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s almost impossible to find unbiased information about Marie because she was hated for her nationality as well as loathed for being in the ruling class. She could have been brilliant and we wouldn’t know because the French still would have despised her and gossiped about her and believed only the worst. It’s very hard to get an accurate picture of French nobility from around the time of the revolution because of the inherent bias against them.
When I think about Jesus and the Romans, the first thing that comes to mind are robes. Sure. Sure they are.
Kanye ocassionally touches on something important, but too often he comes across as privileged and out of touch. They are both shallow, but I think fhey are perfect for eachother.
Know we know that Kanye failed history class!
Personally, I would not feel awesome about my husband comparing me to a woman who got her head chopped off due to, in part, her insanely extravagant lifestyle. But that’s just me!
She was beheaded, technically, for treason. As in, she didn’t take the Revolution lying down.
For the record, she was trashed for spending too much on clothing (though not nearly as much as some kings’ mistresses) and vilified when she tried to economize. Woman could not win.
And no, she never said, “Let them eat cake.”
And Kanye is a moron. Sheesh.
And no, she never said, “Let them eat cake.”
THANK YOU. That line always bugged me. She hadn’t even moved to France yet when that quote was supposedly made.
THIS. MA’s only mistake really, being born female in a time where that meant she was basically used as a political pawn. History has falsely painted her as a villain, when she was more a victim of circumstance and an uncaring, “everything to further the dynasty” mother. The things Marie Antoinette was accused of doing to her own children alone were sickening.
I get why they would make the comparison, but that doesn’t mean they’re right. Also, it’s TOTALLY OK not to be a size two.
You know, I think the comparison may be more apt than even he would want it to be. Even though I hate it more than I can say, Kim is going to be remembered. She is a cultural icon that will be included in the history of our time. Ugh, it makes me mad just to think of it. But, her “reign” won’t last forever. Eventually the public will get sick of her and her over the top lifestyle and she will be metaphorically executed. As in, people will stop paying attention to her. Her popularity will wane and no amount of nude selfies or family antics will restore the faded glory. Because she only lives in the eyes of others, when those eyes turn away it will be almost like death.
So bravo, Kanye! A very good metaphor. A+!
Off with her head.
lol!
Now, now. Don’t be Trumpy.
I was just thinking the same thing — Kayne is doing a ‘Dumpth” by just saying something stupid in order to get press! It works.
“Don’t be trumpy.” Hilarious. I’m stealing that one 😉
For some reason she’s the master of squeezing into things?!?! I think the reason is multiple sets of Spanx.
I’m perhaps more disturbed at them sitting in the closet, playing with or putting together clothes. 1. Careful thought from both of them went into her god awful past and present looks. And 2. WTF!! I don’t think that’s shits normal and while she is boasting about her sisters claiming they are in awe because no one has their unique relationship. Um, they do but it’s generally with a (qualified)stylist. Yes I know Kim is his muse, his into fashion and all that but damn they’re weird. They are both so ridiculous that they are almost like over acted parodies of themselves.
Agreed. These two are really odd. Her style choices since Kanye entered the scene have been bizarre. And she isn’t a size 2 either.
Does Kanye not remember how Marie Antoinette’s life ended? I understand what he means re: her supposed tastemaker status but yeah…not the best example to use.
You are the Eva Braun of commenting.
No, you represent our modern day Joan of Arc… of commenting.
Lol
LOLOLOL. Kaiser, you are the Simone Biles of comment-commenting; it’s all gold!
If Kim is Marie-Antoinette then it means that Kanye would be Louis XVI, which, really, is not a compliment at all. But I can see how Marie-Therese could be the original PMK
Haha, Arpeggi, so true!
Indeed.
Kanye is a very talented rapper and song-writer. But he doesn’t have an ounce of talent to be a fashion designer not a stylist because his wife always looks like a stuffed sausage. Gosh per the Paris Hilton irrelevance calendar, this family should have also moved to Europe by now. Cannot wait until they are a thing of the past.
‘I happen to be curvy, but for some reason I’m the master of squeezing into anything,’…you telling me she is aware that she always squeezes into everything like a sausage.
Five pounds of sausage in a three-pound bag.
“It was such a challenge at the beginning, no one would send clothes” – yeah and buying clothes to become the fashion icon, you think you are, is nothing you could do.
Can everyone please feel sorry for Kim, that no one wanted to send her clothes and no one wanted to believe she would fit into a sample size!?! And by the way, just because it zips, doesn’t mean it fits.
NOW the strained seams and buttons are explained! She’s wearing a sample created for a completely different body type, not a garment created to her measurements.
And it explains why she very rarely looks even remotely comfortable, especially at events. Several layers of spanx and holding your breath to fit into clothes that are too small and cut completely wrong for your shape would be such hell. Maybe that’s the reason she looks so blank all the time, she’s focusing on taking shallow breaths and moving her limbs as little as possible to keep the clothes from ripping like Ursula the sea witch transforming back into herself.
It actually does make sense now. If she’s squeezing into sample sizes made for a completely different body type then that’s why she looks so pained at every event. Idk much about how Kim and Kanye are around each other, but I couldn’t imagine something so vapid as clothes being one of the glues that holds a couple together. It’s just weird how they discuss each other.
Yes. No one should be “squeezing”into any size if you’re wearing the size that fits.
“I’m the master of squeezing into anything.”
Yeah, we can tell. Might not want to brag about that.
Lol lol lol!
Does the word salad chef actually have any idea who Marie Antoinette was? And what she is most famous for? (Because, let’s be real, how many people today know the name of any other queen of France? MA is mostly remembered in an infamous and tragic way.) Don’t get me started on his “influencers” examples – of which he doesn’t name a single one, or the usual bragging. He really believes that in a 1,000 years people will think of sneakers as the zeitgeist of fashion??? O.M.G.
As for her, I will only highlight one set of contradictions: she can fit in a size two sample from any designer because she is the master of squeezing into anything…. (We know, Kim, we see the sausage casing effect daily.) But then she tells us how hard it is to find fashion that fits her curvy body and is ahead of the curve. The poor thing really believes that what she wears is fashionable. Some days I despair for humanity, to see so much delusion, from Don to these idiots.
He’d do better to call her the modern Empress Eugénie, but of course, he has no idea who that was.
Just remember, kids: 21st century = sneakers. It’s all the history you really need to know!
I would love for him to elaborate. It’s not the first time that he keeps dropping M.A’s name and people just don’t care and don’t see it and not many Americans knows about her. You can’t just name check and not tell in what world Kim is the modern Marie Antoinette. Though I do agree the guillotine for the boots and blue jeans “chocker” “piece of fabric”
Size 2?? Sure Jan
The grammy part is interesting, because I see what he’s saying about how he’s been pigeonholed into the stereotypical categories and his wins are token in a way. At the same time, doesn’t he self-perpetuate the myth that white is “best and default” by saying he needs to win against a white person to be validated? 22 grammys is nothing to sneeze at. What would a white category be? Is it a problem that is solved by increasing diversity in the noms? Or by erasing the snobbery against all types of things that are even slightly “exotic”?
It would be interesting to see if any other African American (or other nationality) has won in those “white” categories. His music has been crap the last few years. He occasionally has very valid thoughts, esp. about race but the more he talks, the more delusion he sounds…about everything. He is coo-coo for coacoa puffs.
As for Kim- I’m super short, slender and barely fit a 2. In no world is she a 2. It would be perfectly fine if she wasn’t a 2 , she had (before comical enhancement) a beautiful full, curvy body but for some reason, that’s the number she fixates on. She very, very rarely has looked good in anything since Kanye started dressing her.
Why oh why are they still here?
Michael Jackson , Whitney Houston ,Lauryn Hill and Stevie Wonder have all in won “white” categories. Tina Turner won for best rock performance. That would also be considered a”white” category.
Michael Jackson has won every category ever, black, white, you name it.
The sad thing is that Kim has the money to have good clothes designed for her that actually fit comfortably without layers of spanx. I don’t understand why she doesn’t do that. Why try to fit into sample sizes that are not designed for your real body? She spends so much money sculpting her body to her own specifications and then doesn’t want to dress it properly. Because of her procedures, she can’t ever really fit into anything but customized clothing anyway. Her proportions are too different in different parts. She’s small in some parts and very big in others.
I can guarantee that Marie Antoinette had her own dressmaker…. Really, clothes should fit the person, the person shouldn’t have to contort their body to fit the clothes.
Why does it matter? Almost zero white people have won in rap, R&B or any other traditionally black music genres. Why does this always only go one way? Nobody is clamoring for more white people in anything where they’re under represented, maybe people by and large prefer to stick with what they identify with, or feel comfortable with…or have a historical and cultural tie to. Who are you, or anyone, to try and force things on people? Country music is more accepting and welcoming of non whites than rap or R&B is of whites. Look at how Darius Rucker is treated in country music and compare that to how Iggy Azalea is treated in rap. Zero complaints about Rucker “appropriating” white culture (and please don’t even try to say country music was invented by blacks because that’s a flat out lie and we all know it). I’m pretty sure Charley Pride won a ton of awards but that was before my time so I can’t confirm.
If people want to cross genres and go outside their traditional areas, that’s celebrated but only if it’s one way. Pretty hypocritical, wouldn’t you say?
I’m assuming ‘white categories’ probably means rock categories.
In the rock categories, Lenny Kravitz won best male rock vocal performance 4 years in a row -1999 to 2002.
Michael Jackson won in 1984 for ‘beat it’.
Here is a list of past winners and the nominees they were up against: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammy_Award_for_Best_Male_Rock_Vocal_Performance
ETA: ditto Stevie wonder in various categories against white nominees
Lauren Hill and Whitney Houston.
Does ‘record of the year’ and ‘album of the year’ delineate according to racial lines? As far as i can see, it’s a mixed bag and all the above have won it at various times.
Even album of the year(which is considered the biggest award of the night); Taylor swift has 2, beyonce 0, rihanna 0, kanye 0
Stevie Wonder, M. Jackson, Lionel Richie, Quincy Jones collaborative album, Nat
Cole, Whitney Houston, Lauryn Hill,Outkast, Ray Charles, Herbie Hancock.
Some of them several years (Stevie, 3 times) in a row.
Some albums of the year have not being created by a solo artist, some are groups, others are collaborations or compilations, and in those albums several artists of different ethicities have participated, but the award goes to the producer, I guess.
Santana also won one, he is minority. Sa Mexicans have 1, while African Americans have several already.
Taken from the Bet website.
I am not a fan of Beyonce, I think she is very good, and eventually she will get one, but I do not consider her as one of the best, you know? I just loved the simplicity and honesty of Tracy Chapman, for example, and her earlier records were awesome. She won for folk album, not album of the year in 1989, but she was nominated.
I think nominations are more telling than the winning of the actual grammy.
Taiss, so? Are you saying they deserve to win because they’re black and Taylor should’ve lost because she’s white? I’m not sure what your point is. Whitney and Lauryn were (and are) extremely talented. They sung beautifully, had interesting lyrics, nobody could deny their astonishing talent.
Rihanna screeches, doesn’t sing. Her “durr durr durr” song especially is awful. Beyonce is the most overrated “singer” of all time. She can dance but her lyrics are flat out idiotic and repetitive and the music in her songs is awful (Single Ladies might be the worst thing ever recorded, ever). I am not denying that they are popular or culturally relevant, but the award isn’t for that, it’s for best album. I don’t know the criteria but I can’t imagine that anything they’ve done is worthy, at least not from what I’ve heard. Is that racist? To this crowd, probably, but literally everything here is racist so there ya go.
If We’re speaking recent years, I mean in 2014 beyonce self titled album was the biggest album of the year, beck won. They said it wasn’t about popularity but art, which agree with, artistically beck deserved it. In 2015 Taylor has biggest album of the year, she wins, so now it’s not about art anymore, but popularity? Because we all know Taylor’s music is trash.
Rihanna “work” song is more than mumbling durr, durr, durr it actually has lyrics try to listen.
Plus rihanna has better music than Taylor, she might not write it, but she’s actually versatile, but people are set on discrediting her.
I’m sorry but if beyonce is overrated, I don’t know what to call all other artists nowadays then. I mean she brings it, every single time. She’s the best performer of our time, and is a great singer. Unlike Taylor.
I don’t know how it’s possible that Taylor as 2 album of the year, with those teenage bubblegum songs, beyonce can’t get one. I don’t care if Taylor writes her music, but quality should count.
Taiss: Album of the year:
Stevie Wonder 3,
Lauren Hill 1,
Yoko Ono (as a duo with John Lenon) 1
Micheal Jackson 1,
Lionel Richie 1,
Quincy Jones 2
Natalie Cole 1,
Whitney Houston 1,
Santana 1,
Norah Jones 1,
Outcast 1,
Ray Charles 1,
Tracy Chapman won for folk album,female pop vocal and best rock song. I’ve not checked whom she won against, but given the categories there were probably white nominees.
oh , no! my reply is gone, I looked for the grammys that Tracy won either in 1989 or 1988 and the nominees that she was up against. She won 3 but 1, lost album of the year. I hope it shows up.
http://www.awardsandshows.com/features/grammy-awards-1989-237.html
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And I think KW is delusional and projecting his delusions on his wife. They totally make a good couple, but I pity the children.
Agreed: A SIZE 2???!!!??? It annoys the hell out of me that she thinks she can heap her own lies and delusions on people and they will just believe her because—well, because she wants them to, I guess. There is simply NO way that Kim is anything smaller than a size 6. I mean, she looks in shape again and fit and healthy, which is what matters, but she is far from delicate and thin. And that’s fine: her body type isn’t meant to be super skinny, lots of peoples’ aren’t, and so what? She looks good (body-wise.) But her LYING ABOUT THE OBVIOUS is what is so grating and gratuitous to me. Can’t believe the Kardashian “reign” has lasted so long! It’s time to rebel, and bring them down…
There is no way she is a size two, not with that ass. And there is nothing wrong with not being a size two. Size 6? That’s more likely.
Poor comparision by Kanye but at this point I don’t think he knows half of what he says. However his points in fashion and music were very interesting.
Not a fan at all of KK, but she has slimmed down and really looks fantastic and probably a size 6 – tiny, but certainly not a sample size – who is???
Imagine if she dressed with some class?!
I, too, try to reconcile Kanye’s words/opinions, which seem to have genius woven in somewhere.
But they’re so rambling that the perceived genius sparks and burns out quite quickly and leaves only confusion in its wake.
She is beautiful but definitely dresses two sizes too small and that makes her look “bigger” than she is. She has enough money to buy instead of relying on samples.
Maybe her waist is size 2; The problem with Kim is that she wants to be a skinny girl but with a huge ass and big tits. But doesn’t understand that ass won’t fit in anything size 2.
And most girls with that body type ( black and Latinas) are okay with not being skinny.
She shouldn’t try so hard to convince us that she’s skinnnnyyyy.
Then I don’t understand why she actually bought her body type. Her ass and breasts are enhanced. Kourtney is closer to a size 2 than she ever will be.
The big booty and boobs is what black people like, and the “I’m a size 2, I’m skinny” is kim being her white self.
It’s exactly: “wanting to be black, not really black” .
She wants the sexiness of the big ass not the thighs, legs, sometimes belly that comes with that body.
Has Dim been slowly de-assing herself on the down low?
Amber was wearing the same look on her Instagram today/yesterday. Tight dress..neck collar, long hair..she’s gotten braids…Maybe he’s styling exes on the sly…
I have History on the line, they want to know if you’ve actually ever read them?
Also-
Does that make Kanye Louis XVI? A coddled, mediocre talent compared to his predecessors enveloped in a world of sycophants telling him how loved he is when in fact he is a national and international punchline?
Hee hee! Burn!
West thinks he’s a expert on Marie Antoinette because he read her wikipedia article.
Haha! Kanye Louis XVI, from now on, this will be his nickname to me!
It’d also say a lot about their relationship; Louis XVI was definitely not the greatest at husband duties…
Umm, yeah, this. If I had to put up with SEVEN YEARS of failed attempts at intercourse, I might be letting off some steam dancing, gambling, and shopping, too. Note that the queen’s affinity for such activities noticeably faded during her first pregnancy; in subsequent years she lived a much less frenzied existence, and devoted herself to her children.
So does he think he should be nominated in say, the country music category? He says he is a rap artist and yes, rap artists are typically African Americans…so yes, he is typically going to go up against mainly African Americans… My God, he is so arrogant. I’m so sick of this website perpetuating him as a genius. Did you even read his quote about being an “influencer”? WTH does that even mean? I also disagree about the shoe/sneaker statement… Jordans and Lebrons are still way more sought after than Yeezys…dream on and someone please make them go away! I really just need to stop reading about them, especially here where there are so often elevated to intelligent status and for the life of me I cannot figure out why they receive all the love.
mellie:
THANK YOU. 👍👏👏👏
Couldn’t agree more.
mellie: Thanks A THOUSAND TIMES. I don’t understand, or respect the musical opinion, of anyone who claims this arrogant clown is a “genius.” (I had a roommate who liked his “music”, so I’ve unfortunately overheard a lot of it…far too much!) His lyrics are actually *laughably* bad, truly cringe inducing, and it’s absurd that anyone who has listened to them can—with a straight face!–proclaim him a genius. Don’t understand the high opinion of him that some people on this site seem to promote.
I’m buying fewer fashion magazines these days, but it’s always fun to buy all the doorstop September issues. So it’s really effing annoying to have to buy them with these two dolts and the uniexpression Jenner on the covers. Someone somewhere is going to count it as my upvoting these ambulatory vacuums.
So there is a guillotine in her future?
This whole interview is hilarious. They’re so ridiculous, but you do get a very genuine vibe that they care deeply for each other. They completely shower each other with compliments (real ones, where they praise the other’s kindness or personal strength or intelligence, not just the goofy Marie Antoinette stuff). But these quotes tickled me those most:
Kim [on her hidden talents]: “I can smell when someone has a cavity. It’s a very specific smell—not a bad-breath smell—but something that is really strong.”
Kanye: “I think my sense of humor is really dark and super twisted and stuff like that. It’s like, ‘Is this a funny joke for real? Or am I just rich?’ See? That was funny.”
“I’ve never met anyone like you two who will just sit in a closet for hours and try on clothes and cut things up and redesign them.”
Don’t they have 2 kids, do they get to see them outside their “daily photo shoots” with north.
Shhh. Out of sight, out of mind. That’s a GOOD thing.
Those two must be very confusing to the kids. Kim strikes me as emotionally a very young self-absorbed teenager particularly when she interacts with little Nori. Kanye is just in outer space a lot of the time. I don’t think they’re intentionally malevolent (well, Kim sometimes is when playing her role of pathological liar….) but the children would be in deep trouble if they were low or middle income and didn’t have other family around. The kids are very lucky to have so many other adults in their lives who are emotionally mature and not so confusing.
Marie Antoinette was know to be a very generous woman, despites having spend a lot of money.
I’m just visualizing the two of them in her closet and . . . wow. It’s great that they have a shared hobby?
Yes these two have two very young kids yet still manage to spend hours in Kim’s closet daily. Priorities!
Category: sadly, things I can’t unsee: A denim choker
I’m guessing that was from one of their visits to her closet with a pair of scissors and way too much time. It reminds me of what I used to make for my Barbies.
What is up with wearing a cut off jean jacket sleeve as a choker?
Her tribute to Marie Antoinette’s beheading by the rabble.
Hmmm I remember when people kept saying Kanye was dressing her and she denied it like crazy. Now she’s saying he has a hand in everything she wears? So she’s saying she was a size 2 when she first started dating Kanye? So what is she now a size 000 or something? I don’t get her at all. I don’t think she even gets herself.
Kim says she is a Size 2…I’ll give that a dismissive “whatever.”
Kanye is just as rambling and nonsensical as ever. And comparing Kim to Marie Antoinette…another “whatever.”
Kim, where is your baby?
Because that ended well, Kanye. That ended well.
I have agree with Kanye, Kim Kardashian is modern time Marie Antoinette.
But… but… but… you have to remember, that Marie Antoinette was executed by guillotine.
Just sayin’…
Her legs get tiny and so does her waistline BUT her ass would never be a size 2?! I’m sure one time she fix a size 2, or whatever size that specific designer said was a size 2….and now that’s what she mentions because technically she did fit a size 2, once. LOL Who cares what size you are?! Kim does apparently. She’s a pretty lady. I just wish she wasn’t so obsessed with this ‘size 2’ thing.
As hard as kim tries to be black (buying a big booty), she’s still a white girl at heart (obsessed with skinny).
So every chance she gets, she’ll remind us that she’s a size 2, and only weight 125 pounds, but has a big booty.
That’s actually a very interesting and apt comparison – especially given the current economic climate we’re in. Poor getting poorer, middle class disappearing, rich becoming more obscenely so. Kim and the Klan are the epitome of crass, undeserved wealth.
“I’m the master of squeezing into things.” No, Kim. You’re not.
If she’s really a size 2 and a “sample size” as she says, why would she need to squeeze into anything? It should all fit her easily.
They sound like they’re in a freaking cult! A cult of 2, but a cult nonetheless. The cult’s purpose is to “stay ahead of the game” and “be an influencer”. WTH is with these two? At least they’re good for a few laughs
I’m still stuck on her saying “I’m a size 2″…
IKR? Im a size 4-6 at 5’4 with a slender body. If she’s a 2, I’d be a -4.
If Kanye wants respect from the fashion industry, he could start by not cutting a couple holes in a potato sack and sell it as couture.
Kanye would do well to remember Marie Antoinette’s fate. I count the seconds till this whole family is no longer relevant…sigh…
I like how people believe she made curves “acceptable”, but she constantly lies about her size to make her seem so small…wtf is wrong with being curvy and a size 4 or above? The biggest hypocrite celebrity.
And a live narcissist comparing to a dead narcissist, I’d say that’s a fair enough comparison.
They seem to be finally growing as a couple. Kimye is alive and entertaining!
Marilyn Monroe, now Marie Antoinette. I get his drive but this Is a little too macabre for comfort.
I like his future homeless couture. I don’t understand why some think he is out of his lane in fashion/design. He is créative and passionate, he puts money on it, that makes him legit in my book.
Is winning over a black person worse than winning over a white person? Is white music better?
“My wife is the face of the change” … yes, we know. We’ve seen all 328 of her faces.
For someone that “works out” so often, she sure seems…soft. No tone of definition at all.
She looks BANGING here!
Body envy! (Minus the cartoon arse of course)
Oh for the love of god. Enough.
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Taste maker? Nope. Bad taste maker.
Well in the day and age of cheating and divorce, it is refreshing to see how connected they are and in love with each other.
Ahah!! And what happened to Marie -Antoinette ?
They chopped her head off! Along with her husband!
Size 2 my a–
I’m really tired of making excuses for Kanye. He’s looked down upon because he’s an egomaniac with no talent to back it up. Nothing wrong with being an eccentric egotist in fashion – but only if you have talent. A collection where you ask people to pay thousands of dollars for a garment that literally looks like it was ripped off the back of a homeless person isn’t worthy of respect. In fact, it’s parody. He may as well call his most recent collection ‘derelicte’.
Kanye in fashion is a completely different conversation to Kanye in music.
How can people still defend him when he opens his mouth and this comes out?