As we discussed yesterday, Amber Heard did make it into her deposition at long last. To be fair, she was physically in the building for her deposition last weekend too, there were just two different stories about why Amber was not deposed that time around. For this Saturday’s deposition, Amber apparently arrived on time and with her lawyers, as you can see from these photos. We didn’t hear much about the depo in the immediate aftermath, which I took as a good sign, all things considered. I mean, if Amber had completely fallen apart, you better believe that Johnny Depp’s lawyers would have run to the media to tell everybody everything. Not surprisingly, TMZ did get this story last night, about 24 hours after Amber’s deposition:
Amber Heard was grilled until she was well done Saturday … sitting for her long-awaited deposition for 7 long hours … TMZ has learned. Sources familiar with the situation tell us, Amber was asked about her claims of violence at the hands of Johnny Depp, and not just on May 21st. We’re told she was asked in great detail about claims of past violence.
Our sources say Johnny’s lawyer, Blair Berk, went into great detail about her alleged injuries on May 21st, and why 5 concierges, 2 police officers as well as security guards saw no evidence of such after the incident. Our sources say Amber, with lawyer Samantha Spector by her side, maintained she was injured and couldn’t account for what others saw.
We’re told early Sunday another settlement offer was passed around and the lawyers are working toward a settlement, which could come at any time. It seems neither side wants a trial, which is now scheduled for Wednesday.
“Our sources say Amber, with lawyer Samantha Spector by her side, maintained she was injured and couldn’t account for what others saw…” That’s what bothered me about Team Depp’s PR. They gathered up all of these random people to say “well, I saw Amber on that day and she looked fine.” Um, okay? Good for you. And that’s Team Depp’s counterargument – that some people didn’t see anything, therefore nothing happened. Nothing happened even when she has a video of him breaking glasses and being violent. Nothing happened even when she has photos of her injuries. Nothing happened even when she has documentation of conversations about the abuse.
As for the settlement talks… as I keep saying, they will settle. It will probably be at the very last minute though. My guess is that Johnny would rather settle than be deposed.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
TMZ bites.
It had to get this far for Depp to realize settling was in his best interest, especially.
–TheRealPinky
FIVE concierges say she didn’t get hurt you guys. So there. 🙄
And one of them she had a fresh and dewy complexion!
I wonder how many of those people are on depp’s payroll.
Coincidentally, these 5 concierges also happen to be certified domestic violence experts. My God this is ridiculous. I would not be surprised if Depps witnesses/concierges got a little something extra in their tips this week. He would rather use his money to encourage witnesses to come forward than just settle with Amber.
The 5 concierges might not be domestic violence experts but the two police officers probably are.
@jellybean
Most of the time they are not. Out of 5 people assigned to my case only one was only half-schooled in abuse/rape matters. The others were rolling their eyes because, you know, sooo boorriinngg to be assigned to a DV case, these annoying victims who should stop calling police for a simple beating-up…
Unicorn, what happened to you is appalling. I hope it was sometime ago and that things have improved. I am in the UK and I believe they have greatly improved here, but I certainly cannot speak from personal experience; although I do receive a report every Monday if there have been any DV incidents over the weekend that might impact on the young people in my care. As far as the two police officers in this case are concerned, it was reported that they were grilled about that night by senior officers to make sure there were no irregularities. If it goes to court I am sure their experience and level of training will be raised by which ever side it suits.
@jellybean: Here in the US police officers are most definitely NOT experts on domestic violence. It’s a pretty significant issue. And this is from someone who’s worked with DV survivors.
For all we know, Amber had her hair combed forward, wore sunglasses, covered bruises with makeup, etc. No one had any clue at all about the markings she’s gotten until she went out of her way to show them. Not to mention, if police officers had seen her the day-of, it may not have been sufficient time for marks to really appear.
Recently a friend and I were thretened in broad daylight by a group of men to be beat up, because we had the audacity to speak up and defend a young woman verbally attacjed by another sleazeball. I immediatelly called the police, also made sure the brave men heard i was doing so, and they promptly scattered. But what was interesting about he call is that the police officer that I talked to (in my country you talk to a police officer when you call an emergency number), a woman, who was clearly trying hard to not send us help cause she just couldn’t be bothered at one point asked: “what were you doing so they threatened you?”. i totally saw which way the conversation was going and i was ready for herand replied:”what legitimate reason is there so that a man can threaten a woman?”. She went silent and grudgingly asked to what location to send police to. Now, if this was a REAL situation, I probably wouldn’t have time are the sense to retort, but the point I am making is that I think the police worldwide still doesn’t respond to these situations appropriatelly.
Yesterday, while reading comments on another site, it reminded me of this gemmer from Celebitchy back when Angelina Jolie and Johnny Depp were working on The Tourist….warnings from Angelina to Johnny about “getting a prenup”.
http://www.celebitchy.com/355321/is_angelina_jolie_throwing_a_side-eye_at_johnny_depp_amber_heard/
Given they were only married a year or so, I doubt it would affect his overall fortune that much. She’s entitled to half his earnings while married, no more. Another reason the gold-digger arguments are so odd – if he isn’t abusive but is in fact an angel of sweetness and light as the gold-digger claimants insist, and she could make out like a bandit while married to him, why cash her chips so soon?
There is a rumor that JD was wanting to file for divorce but then his mother died. She then filed herself. I don’t know if that’s true, I don’t really believe it but it would explain the timing of her filing. That is the one thing I don’t understand.
Other then her timing, I believe she’s telling the truth. But she married him after years of dealing with his behavior, so her filing right after his mother passed away wasn’t necessary. Unless she had to make sure he wouldn’t file first. That would have hurt her DV case, so I understand she wanted to make sure she’d be the one to file.
@KCJMO, Johnny’s team needs to make up their mind. For a long time they’ve been saying that Johnny never imagined getting divorced and how he was so “hurt and surprised” about Amber filing.
For me, after this most recent evidence leaking, we all should have really deducted a long time ago that she basically filed for divorce once the abuse got BAD. Basically, at least the last two times she saw him, he was physically, verbally and emotionally abusive towards her. On April 21st after her birthday dinner. Then she didn’t see him for a month. And then she sees him again the day after his mother dies, tries to console him but they get to talking about their issues (I think this came up on a recent article on E!) and then he became explosive with her. I think at that point her friends finally convinced her that this was it and she HAD to get out, because so many of them were involved in trying to deescalate the situation that night. It was a sure way of making sure that she wouldn’t turn back.
“grilled until she was well done”
SERIOUSLY? TMZ uses a piece of meat analogy to describe a deposition in which a woman is alleging domestic abuse? SERIOUSLY?
I think I shall have to give up reading anything more about this. Else I’ll spontaneously combust.
If it helps, think of Melanie Griffith telling Alec Baldwin in “Working Girl,” “I’m not steak. You can’t order me.”
I feel like I need to bleach myself, just reading that. Who writes copy for these people? Can’t we ostracise them or something?
Thank you for the line. I might go and spam TMZ, commenting it over and over.
Love it. Thanks for cheering me up after TMZs article enraged me.
Hahaha…My heart overflows anytime anyone quotes Working Girl. Love that movie!!
This comment makes me want to be your friend.
Best to give up on TMZ. I did a looooong time ago!
I won’t click on that site even with an ad-blocker now. Their behaviour over this mess has been genuinely scary.
This! It has been scary…..it’s disturbing to see what one site can do to the court of public opinion & spin a story that is this sensitive to now end.
The Mail online ran two stories with headlines saying that the video showed Depp throwing a bottle and a glass at heard. TMZ are relatively subtle in how they bent the story, that was an outright lie that has been blindly picked up by several other sites.
Good for her for sticking it out – I wouldn’t be surprised if a settlement was announced soon. After that video dropping his lawyers will not want him deposed as he’s likely to incriminate himself.
Sadly, HW will gather around him like it always has. He’ll still have his precious career but will end up a lonely, bitter old man who has a string of much younger women.
Am still a bit surprised Vanessa was willing to support him, however it has long been said that he was sober for most of their relationship partly due to the kids and her being able to handle him and his mood swings. She only kicked him out/ended it when he started drinking again, which was around the time he started chasing after Amber.
And his deluded fans, whom he wouldn’t cross the road to spit on if they were on fire as he does not know they exist or care, can now see that she did, indeed, go to court.
Hopefully, she produced many more incriminating text messages and videos to really nail the creep.
Now, let’s see if their ‘zero’ has the mettle to go to court and get deposed himself. She’s done it, let’s see if their coward can do it too.
They haven’t gone to court yet, have they? I thought that was this Wednesday?
They are lying about her wanting to settle tho! She will NEVER settle and drop the RO case! She needs that RO to keep him away from her.
Unfortunately it sounds like he only had to submit a statement to her deposition and not actually be deposed himself, per the judge’s request.
I’m gonna put my Dr. Phil hat and voice on here guys and just say; I just hope Johnny eventually realizes, he can send all his paid “friends” to write trash pieces all he wants, his fans can each write 30 support messages on every news/social media site all they want, at the end of the day, he’s still the one alone and trapped with his addiction. You cannot be a happy healthy individual and drink like that on a daily basis and treat people the way he does. He himself has struggled with it his entire life through a various periods talking about his uncontrollable anger and jealousy when he had two kids stable partner and nominated for an Oscar and needing Vanessa to “talk him down”. I wouldn’t be surprised if it worried him on some level why he still even has a need to drink and drug and get so angry when he’s so successful and millions at his disposal. It must really bother him and get him wondering if nothing in life can make him truly happy to the point where he doesn’t need to depend on substances. But like I said at the end of the day, your fans can love you and write messages defending you to the moon and back and call Amber every name in the book. None of them can stop those feelings you have driving you back and forth to these substances on such an frequent basis. And they never will. Nor will your paid lackeys, more concerned about getting their 10% by keeping you untarnished and working to suit their own end than whatever feelings you go though. At the end of the day, you can’t buy your way out of this addiction nor the strong emotions keeping you trapped in it. This may all blow over for you and your career but make no mistake, addiction will still be there to greet you at the door.
That was awesome! @cinder!
You’re so right Cinder, this loser is trapped in his unhappiness. Not even his weird fans can help him in that misery, no matter how much they profess to love him.
He is going to be locked in that addiction misery for a long time. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy!!
You wear that Dr. Phil hat well, Cinder. Well said!
exactly! Also totally imagined Dr. Phil telling this to Depp.
I bet Depp was handled with kid gloves and was tossed softball questions.
what do you mean? Softball questions from who? When?
I certainly hope amber’s lawyers won’t be tossing him ‘softball questions’ – petty sure that would render them in breach of duty?
It was reported elsewhere, but he doesn’t have to be deposed at all. He can just give a written declaration to the court. I don’t think he has to take the stand at the hearing either, but don’t quote me on that.
She seems to have managed to keep her dignity intact in a heartbreaking personal and impossibly public situation, and I say, good for her. No one sets out to become a model for victims of violence, but she’s made her claims, gathered and presented what evidence she could, and did it all in the face of a disgustingly prejudicial system. If it’s an imperfect outcome, that speaks not to her actions but to the perpetuation of a culture of violence against women and the gross imbalance of power in domestic violence.
How can he even show his face or THINK about going to trial after what he has done? And he has got to know now that she has what she needs to really ruin him, the way he tried to ruin her. If I had abused anyone, or even behaved like he did in that video, I could never live with myself, nevermind swan around in scarves, hair grease, and Hot Topic gear like I was a real star, instead of a pathetic, abusive alcoholic megalomaniac.
This. He saw that video (and likely others that have not been released) and still thinks he’s the victim. That’s all I need to know about him.
I am surprised Depp’s lawyers didn’t burn her at the stake for daring to rise against the Master.
I am surprised that Depp’s fans, that get no cut from his profits yet are willing to defend him through abuse and drugs and alcohol, haven’t burned her at the stake for saying he beat her up. At least the witnesses involved in this trial for Depp are getting paid by him.(which is not weird at all!!!!)
Depp’s fans and lawyers probably think Amber should consider herself lucky to be the victim of such a high and mighty abuser like Johnny Depp.
Not all the witnesses he has are getting paid by him, though.
I can’t speak for the fans but the lawyers are doing their job. The most horrible person is entitled to representation.
I agree with this but I think Wasser has done a lot of stuff in this case that is not warranted under having to do her job. Leaking to the press like this and dragging this woman…….this isn’t just representing Johnny- it’s doing his attacking for him. I didn’t know that attorneys had also become PR people but maybe Wasser is a two stones one bird kind of lawyer?
Tmz is full of a bunch of “frat bros” supporting this sad alcoholic drug addiction celebrity. We all saw him at premieres last year looking like he’d been run over by a bus. And that video! It’s like 7am and he pours himself the largest glass of wine I’ve ever seen! And about no one noticing the bruises. A bruise can take days to actually look like a bruise. You bash your thigh on something don’t notice it then two days later someone’s like “What happened?!” And you have this purple black mass.
What is sad is many of the people commenting and defending Depp are women. They seem to hate Amber with a hotter passion than the men.
Absolutely! Just because certain people don’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen!! Plus we all know how unreliable witness testimony can be, that’s the one I would take if I were her lawyers anyway…
The judge will certainly apply this common sense knowledge ( lack of immediate bruising ), don’t you think?
Someone once said ‘Be kind, for everyone is waging a great battle’. I think about this when I’m tempted to snap back at someone who has been rude to me for no reason or when I, myself, feel irritable or petulant.
We really have no idea what people are going through in their private lives.
Ok, well, I have periodically reminded my kids of the same, but with the caveat that while it may be explainable, it’s not excusable.
I’m not clear about to what principle you are applying this adage. I certainly hope not to garner empathy for JD’s continued abusive behavior.
@snarkweek: i love that quote, its from Gloria Vanderbilt. yet i can only imagine why one would defend depp at this point and those who do make me so ragey, i have to stay away from the hell-pit that is tmz and their comment section.
i dont know, they basically defend a man’s right to dominate a woman, physically and psychologically. while despicable, i understand why a man would argue that way, i mean it favors him, but as a woman? that is some twisted psychology. i always think of steven the butler from “django unchained”.
My apologies for not being clear. I was just thinking about all of the pics we’ve seen over the past few years of Heard on the red carpet or at Cannes wearing expensive couture or jetting around the world on Depp’s private plane yet going through so much ugliness behind closed doors. She has been called everything under the sun, even before the abuse came to light, and yet who could have fathomed the hell she was going through in private. So I was just thinking that this quote applies to so many other people dealing with DV – rich and poor, famous and infamous, beautiful and plain, likable and unlikable…since we do not know and can not tell we should just treat everyone with kindness. As for Johnny I am sad that he suffers from substance abuse but that has zero to do with his vile abuse. So many people have issues with alcohol or drugs but they are not violent *ssholes who hurt other people. Addiction can be explained but his abuse can not, imo. He is simply a very, very bad person and he feels me with loathing.
My opinion is that all of this “lateness” “not showing up” and “refusal to testify” is all JD smoke screen to hide settlement negotiations. I also think that they will settle before JD’s deposition. When they do settle, I hope Amber doesn’t agree to a Non-Disclosure Agreement. It would be so empowering to be able to tell her side of the story **if she chooses to.** She may choose not to tell her side, but I hope it’s not because JD controls her actions. I hope the settlement gives her legal protection as well as financial security because I fear JD’s employees will continue their anti-Amber campaign, and likely escalate it. JD is dangerously out of control with anger, addiction, money, fame and power. I hope none of his worshipers decide to act upon his “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” rantings.
I imagine that is one of the main issues, if not THE issue, delaying a settlement. Depp’s team want a non-disclosure as part of the settlement & Amber is refusing to agree to one. He can’t silence her and its driving him nuts.
I’m really hopeful that she doesn’t give in on this matter. She sounds exhausted and beaten down by this whole process and might just want it over sooner rather than later, but I think it’s important that she doesn’t because we know his people certainly won’t quit publicly beating her down.
I just hope that no matter the outcome ( team Amber), the evidence finds its way out to the public. He’s revolting.
I believe someone on another post noted that the court order doesn’t require Depp to be deposed before trial, he has to provide a sworn statement.
When the video was first posted, on FB people were commenting on the Daily Mail article stating they don’t see violence and all he did was slam some cupboard doors. Most of the defendants were women. Women who called Amber a gold digger, a skank, opportunist etc. It’s pathetic and disgusting. This woman was abused. But nooo we can’t believe her because vagina and pretty. Pathetic. I hope she nails his ass to the wall.
Another thing people are claiming on instagram is that the video is “clearly edited at the 1:13 mark.” Um, no, she simply moves the camera. The video itself does not ever cut off in that clip.
My first thought when I watched that video was “there is no way I could ever live with someone who acted like that.” I can’t fathom how anyone who watched that video could continue to bash her and call her a liar.
I will never understand why people defend celebrities when they don’t have a clue at all who/how they are in real life.
Same can be said for cheating models and celebrities you can have pictures of them nude, texts, and so on but the girl who exposed them is lied on and hated no matter what proof there is. When you have money, fame, or are hot they get a pass the worst is when the women attack the women but if they were the victim how would they feel it’s a double standard. Self entitled aholes will do as they want because people allow them to get away with it.
For them to have deposed her for the full and maximum allowed seven hours tells me that they really grilled her and probably prolonged it as a means to intimidate her into a settlement more to Johnny’s favor. I hope she’s made it through it okay.
My thinking is – if she has been recording for months and months instead of just leaving, she has been plotting and scheming for a payout. It indicates a certain personality type which is strongly repulsive to many people, hence the backlash. She had no child involved and could simply leave at any time. If you distrust/resent your partner to a point of recording, the honest/decent thing to do is simply to politely leave without looking back.
Sure, a real lady accepts to be abused and just politely disappears. I am beginning to seriously worry about the state of our society.
I find it completely understandable that a person would want their abuser to be punished one way or another and collect evidence in order to achieve that. That’s no “personality type” and not a repulsive one either.
If she thinks he is danger to society she should work to put him behind bars. Otherwise – it’s just two adults exchanging services. And her working sneakily to get paid.
oh annie. you are breaking my heart. depp is violent and rich and you side with him. dont trust the powerful men. it’s only fun if they do the right thing.
Well, he was clearly a danger to her, and she did work to make it stop.
What are you implying, that he brought home a big paycheck, which entitled him to abuse her?
Wow.
Just SMDH. Other commenters here covered it perfectly so nothing to add but….yeah…
did Amber decide to leave him and then was staying while working on collecting evidence, knowing that once she has enough evidence she will have a bargaining chip to demand much more alimony than she would typically be entitled to after such short marriage and then pull the plug? What was it that finally made her “able” to leave? Having collected a sufficient amount of evidence? She is just as privileged as he is, just had a shorter/less successful career…..if she wanted him to stop she could have just told him that she will record next time he has an outburst….
there is a repulsive personality involved here but it isn’t Amber. a person that says they love someone, then abuses them, denies the abuse and goes on to try to make the loved one out as crazy is repulsive. Johnny Depp is a alcoholic violent man. he’s had a long history of rages and substance abuse. Amber refusing to go quietly is not the problem
part of the problem is our society and the judgement we place on the victim if they don’t fit our narrative of the PERFECT LADYLIKE VICTIM.
how is marriage exchanging services? do you really equate being a wife with giving the husband a right to abuse her? are saying she owes him sex in exchange for the abuse? asking for her legal rights is not sneakily getting paid, it’s the law.
Exchange of services? Amber upping her price (alimony) for getting punched. If he is doing something illegal – lock him up! If not – call it what it is. No victims here. Sorry. Not saying that she shouldn’t get paid – it’s a market economy and she is playing by the rules. But let’s call it what it is.
Annie- If you rape a prostitute and leave money on the table it’s still rape. My point is that is doesn’t matter what Amber did, how much money she wants, how long she was ‘plotting’; it is not a willing exchange. She was abused and that is not okay- period, end of story.
Your attitude is what scares me more then Johnny. As a society we need to stand up against abuse & support victims. You are burying your head in the sand & blaming victims with “lock him up or shut up”. Your attitude, words & contribution is what keeps abusers out of jail & just moving on to the next woman to beat up some more. smdh.
Jesus, all this time my mother should have been asking her abusive husband for a bigger allowance. Who knew?
I find the personality type who tries to second guess why a woman would record the anger and violence in order to have some proof against a man who would slander her and try to “ruin” her to be repulsive.
Agreed.
@Annie…just FYI, my BFF used to record & take pictures of her abuse because she knew that he’d always find a way to make her stay. He preyed upon her good & super-forgiving nature and the fact that she loved him. And they didn’t have children either.
I’LL TELL YOU WHY SHE RECORDED…because she thought if he ever KILLED her that evidence on her phone & iCloud would show it was probably him and her loved ones would have closure & for the strong possibility that he would kill her before she mustered up the strength to leave. Everyone loved him too, btw. She wasn’t looking for a payout, she was thinking of us because in her words she was “too stupid” to think of herself, so she at least wanted closure for us. It makes me cringe in horror to think about it.
I had no idea she was doing this because she internalized nearly all of it. I knew he was a douche & verbally abusive but I never got her to admit he was physical though I suspect it. Luckily, he assaulted someone else & that got him locked up for 2 years. Enough time for her to make her escape. She just married a Krav Maga instructor who gives free classes to DV victims and the ex doesn’t have the balls to go near her.
OMG what does it have to do with raping sex workers? Nobody says that what JD did is ok. Violence is not ok as is any action for which consent was not given. If he hit her, he needs to be punished according to the law. If she was sticking around for a long time pretending to be a loving wife and staging/instigating/recording fights to catch a dangerous criminal and put him behind bars – it’s understandable! If it’s because she miscalculated with the marriage and instead tried to find shortcut for payout – that’s not unusual but icky. And disservice to women.
How about reading up about domestic violence and why its victims stay longer than you think they should. The very fact that you say she might have “pretended” to be a loving wife who was “instigating” fights shows that you know next to nothing about domestic violence.
Why is she the one that’s obligated to politely leave? Shouldn’t the obligation be on Depp to not be an abuser?
Do you even know why abused women stay? They stay out of fear, and they stay out of love. She could have felt that the only way she could leave safely was to have evidence, she could have kept it for safekeeping, for any number of completely reasonable reasons. For all we know, she may have thought that showing him what he was like when he was drunk would help him to snap out of it. The onus is on Depp to not act badly if he doesn’t want it caught on camera.
If anything, getting photographic and video evidence of Depp’s behavior shows that she was smart enough to realize that many people were going to dismiss her abuse allegations as the scheme of a lying golddigger. That reveals more about our society than it does about her (along with the misogynistic responses to her pictures and video). It’s not like a woman in Hollywood has nothing to lose by going public with abuse from an older, richer, powerful, well-liked Hollywood man. It seems like by getting evidence, she was trying to protect herself.
She may have recorded him so she could show him what he was like in that state – his assistant said he had no memory of it and was appalled to be told, and she may have been naive enough to think showing him would alter his mindset.
There is also nothing wrong with someone leaving a dangerous and extremely rich man wanting evidence, so she could get a restraining order and have it stick. We’ve seen very clearly that her unsupported word was nothing like enough. At first, everyone was sneering that she had no evidence and it was BS. Now she has evidence, people are sneering that she was calculating and devious and why wait for evidence?
The evidence may well be what keeps him from harming her ever again.
And women very frequently stay because of sunk costs fallacy, which is especially so when there is a substance abuse problem.
This whole Heard and Depp debacle is actually a good way of showing the world, albeit at Amber’s expense, how DV is often dealt with. Victims are treated with contempt and suspicion.
This is especially the case when celebs or money is involved. Just like rape there is a whole load of victim blaming, slut shaming and painful ignorance.
It’s disappointing, but frankly not surprising, how many people do not recognise abuse for what it is.
Amber has decided to show the pretty boy fan favourite for what he really is. I don’t think she realised how many people would take his side, which is why many abused just don’t bother to speak up.
“Oh my god that lovely funny talented man wouldn’t hurt a fly. She is a gold-digger, an opportunist and a slut. That’s not violent, he’s just throwing a few things around. She could have got those bruises anywhere..done it herself even.”
And they wonder why the abused stay quiet. This kind of bullshit ignorance keeps them quiet. Crowd control keeps them silent.
More power to the Ambers of the world, who would rather be called all the names under the sun than go on living in a situation like that.
Amber could be a two penny prostitute with a crack habit and a lust for millions, Depp still shouldn’t be allowed to abuse her.
What’s more, she could be an angel of mercy working one shift at a hospice and the other at a leper colony, and he still would have abused her.
This! To both of your comments.
As a survivor of domestic violence, We don’t always remember what happens. Those phone videos aren’t something I had access to but I am well aware I was hit and of the lingering complications.
Correct. Also, I hate to remember. It added to the physical hurt so much to realize that the man who said he loved me took pleasure in hurting me. For me it has literally been over 20 years since my abuse, and my life is wonderful now. But there are still moments when I have to walk out of the room when a movie scene reminds me too forcefully of the past. For anyone who is living with abuse I beg you to get help. Remember that the shame belongs to him, not to you.
As soon as I saw the video, and heard the tone in his drunken-rage voice, I was taken back over two decades in my soul. I remembered, vividly, the “one-minute-nice, next-minute-rage” episodes that made absolutely no sense. I remembered having to act compliant and roll with it until the rage was over. I remembered how I couldn’t cry or show any emotion during a rage, because that made it about me, and he hated that.
It was hard to break free, but thankfully I did. The hardest part, for myself, was the fact that everyone loved my abuser. He was everybody’s friend. Seemed like the salt of the earth. I came across as the b!tchy one, because it wasn’t so easy for me to put on a fake smile for everyone, moments afters being called down in the dirt. So I came across as crazy and ungrateful. People pitied him, for having to put up with me for so long. It takes a lot of courage to overcome all of that. And I wasn’t being judged by millions of people.
If Amber is after money in all this, I say: Why not? He’s taken something much more valuable from her…several years of her life. He’s taken some of her self-confidence, her ability to blindly trust in another human being. Johnny can’t give that back to her, unfortunately. In today’s society, the only way to compensate for misdeeds is with money or jail. We all know that JD wouldn’t spend any more than a few hours in jail, so that leaves money.
Go get what you can, girl.
Bullshit. I’ve been in an abusive relationship, immediately after it happened I would take pictures. In those moments after you question everything about your life and yourself, you tell yourself over and over that you’re done with your abuser. You say you’ll never go back and won’t tolerate abuse for one more second. You take pictures or videos because you’re sure you will leave and know getting out is going to be hard as hell. You know your abuser is going to try to drag you through the mud and ruin you, you take those pictures as proof and to in some way defend yourself. I was told more than once he’d kill me if I ever left and moved on with someone else. How else do you protect yourself when you leave than to prove their violent and crazy?!? Clearly her word isn’t enough, hell video isn’t enough or pictures for some people to believe her. I’m thankful you’ve never been in that position.
I’d also like to say I was given a black eye and bloody nose when I was 9 months pregnant. We’d been arguing and I was just sitting there and he got up and open hand slapped me across the face. Black eye was on my eyelid and eyebrow area. I cut side swept bangs and cover that shit like I was a pro make up artist. A week later, nurses and doctors, both our families came to the hospital to see my newborn and NO ONE knew or saw my eye. Every single one of them would have sworn I didn’t have a black eye because I was that good at covering it. That good at covering for HIM and too ashamed to tell anyone. So those witnesses don’t mean jack shit saying she had dewy skin or no bruising. Every single person that comes out and calls her a liar despite the evidence she has shown are the reason people are too scared to come forward and tell their story.
Kt, I hope you and your son/children are now safe and thriving despite this. Thank you for sharing.
What about her issues? Her lying during the dog scandal and just because she was his wife, he was the one to face World wide embarrassment and humiliation in the court. It is just an example of what she brought to this relationship. Would people have supported him if he had left Amber alone to face her consequences? He has to take part in her blame yet she should get a clean slate?
Depp’s actions deserve consequences, he should admit his issues and take responsibility but what about her? Just be let off the hook? Who knows what else has she been upto? Depp has plenty of evidence as well to show how she too has been toxic and manipulative. All that doesn’t matter I guess. Or the fact she could continue her manipulation (and then declare she didn’t do it as she is doing now) even after all this is over. Why shouldn’t Depp, thereby his family, be allowed to stay free of her as well?
The money or divorce is not the issue, nor is the condoning of his behaviour which is INEXCUSABLE but the ACKNOWLEDGEMENT that both the sides have been toxic to each other, a fact glaringly obvious. Why can’t Amber acknowledge that and if she TRULY wants things to be private be done with the divorce, settlement and make the ‘healthy choice for herself and Johnny’ as she claims by moving on?
The video was released AFTER Depp submitted his evidence list which would expose her actions. Now she insists on privacy whereas she claimed before she had nothing to hide. Is it wrong to expect rightful exposure of both their actions?
I’m also shocked by people asking how DARE he show his face at the court to explain his side. Sure let us all crucify people based on allegations and a video – how dare he uses his right to face the accuser? Legal system can go to hell.
What is the evidence he has that she has been toxic and manipulative?
Please share
@ Sarah
Didn’t you hear??
His evidence would be the ‘World wide embarrassment and humiliation in the court’ he suffered because of the dogs scandal.
But hey, I don’t blame you if you didn’t finish reading the comment. I didn’t bother reading beyond the first paragraph either!
If she lied during the dog scandal, he lied too. She was just the one that wound up taking the fall for the both of them because his hand was busted (from being an abusive pos) and couldn’t sign himself. The embarrassment was to be had by the both of them, even though she was the only one that faced the charges, which is exactly what happened.
And who is letting her “off the hook” for anything? A number of us can agree that that relationship was toxic, and guess what? If she was manipulative, that doesn’t warrant him abusing her. She stayed with him throughout the abuse for FOUR YEARS. If she was manipulative, she was a whole lot less so than he was, because somehow he got her to keep staying with him and getting back together with him after she left him at the end of 2012, and marrying him even though she prolonged the engagement and had previously turned him down.
Nobody is asking how dare he show his face in court to explain his side. In fact, a lot of us want to see it happen so she can present even just a minimal part of her evidence too. All he has as evidence are people to try to destroy her character in court; not any actual evidence that he was not abusive towards Amber. Vanessa not considering his behavior abusive does NOT mean he was not abusive with Amber.
@Malivia – “Depp has plenty of evidence as well to show how she too has been toxic and manipulative.”
Could you elaborate, please. I seem to have missed this ‘evidence’.
Exactly, if she was ‘manipulative,’ exactly what did she manipulate him to do, and how? And while she was at it, did she ‘manipulate’ his entire personal history of aggressive outbursts and arrests? Did she ‘manipulate’ the alcohol to find its way into his body?
I missed the ” evidence ” too! Depp is worthless scum bag! Or has my husband put it he is lower than a cock roach!
I feel sorry for you for thinking that way. I sincerely hope you are never in the position where your romantic partner is abusing you, and you have every past transgression dragged up as evidence of how you either deserved whatever abuse you got that you must have provoked it.
Another Desperate Depp Fangirl, this time trying to deflect Johnny Depp being exposed as abusive with “but Amber probably said mean or dishonest things to him in the relationship sometimes”. Sad. And what on earth does her lying about dogs have to do with Johnny Depp’s behavior?
Boo
It’s official, I’m a ex lifelong JD fan
I’m convinced now… He’s a dick
She is a DV victim, and this isn’t about money! HE wants to settle, not her! She wants him to stay away, she does not want him to pay her off. There is NO REASON for her to settle anything before she has her RO.
So many people talking settlement … none of you really believer her! Only a liar would want money over safety and justice, and she is NOT lying!
Then how do you explain that she asked for a settlement to keep things private before she filed for divorce? I think they had a very toxic relationship, she did suffer abuse, AND she wants a payoff. They don’t have to be mutually exclusive.
She asked for a divorce settlement because she is his wife and they were getting divorced and she is legally entitled to that settlement.
You appear to think that women who are the victims of abuse are less entitled to spousal support than women who aren’t. It’s a rather odd mindset.
Well, she must have turned down the newest settlement. She’s again “not leaked” another piece of evidence.
Highly doubt she leaked it if she is turning down a settlement. If she is turning it down, chances are they’re closer to going to court (in two days), and there is a high chance anything that leaks is not admissible in court. So really, the way I see it someone it trying to sabotage her court case. It’s not like either of them comes out smelling like roses with those two pictures leaking.
Also, he is a SICK MF. I saw the picture of his finger, and can’t believe he was drunk and high enough to basically chop off the majority of his fingertip and still dip it in paint and write on the mirror with paint and his blood. I was really sad for her for dealing with his abuse, but this shit is quickly turning really effing scary. Run, Amber! RUN!
Lies.
They said she had an offer with her, but she doesn’t want to settle. And she didn’t leak that video! She clearly stated that.
Someone is trying to make her look bad. The video and pic today don’t proof abuse and she’d never leak that. The media is already being horrible, esp TMZ so she’d NEVER give them anything! This is someone on Johnny Depps team trying to make her look like the bad one.
I honestly think it’s TMZ’s sources in the court that are doing it. They have them (the sources), and they are notorious Team Depp. I honestly feel like they are trying to sabotage her, because things that leak can be deemed inadmissible in court. If she was going to leak anything, it would have leaked a long time ago. What a coincidence that the minute they each submit their evidence to the court in preparation for this, things start getting leaked, but only her evidence; not his.
Yeah, it’s not like TMZ is famous for bribing people for stuff or anything. Or for haunting courthouses…
Yep…passed up the settlement.
Their case is pretty boring, but I NEED an I.D. on those SUNGLASSES, stat! So cool.
There is a new story on TMZ about how Johnny cut the tip of his finger off while in a rage, then used the bloody stump to write “Billy Bob” on a mirror in their hotel room. He apparently believed Amber was cheating on him with Billy Bob Thornton, with whom she was filming a movie at the time. He also wrote “Easy Amber” on the mirror.
This whole situation is simply horrifying. Like many others have commented, I was a life-long JD fan, but am thoroughly disgusted with him (as well as with myself for liking him for so long). He is a monster.
This guy is a complete mess.
I do have a question: Amber said she didn’t release the video, and that she is “attempting to resolve this matter in the most private way possible.” Then, who did? Her legal team? Without her consent? Would that be possible? Or a friend of her’s, without telling her? That seems quite impossible…If she has given this video evidence to her legal team, they somehow must have agreed to ways of using it, I would imagine.
That’s been answered above; the evidence was submitted to the court, so it is now in the hands of multiple people with no interest in either party’s case. I read an interview with Laura Wasser a while ago where she bluntly stated that most courts leak like sieves so announcing mutually agreed divorces has to be done simultaneously with filing the documents.
Thank you for answering! I thought any evidence is sort of confidential. At least up to a certain point, since they are still at the beginning of their procedures.
I think the fact that he cut off the tip of his finger to paint accusations on a mirror, for her to see is horrifying enough and qualifies not only as abuse, but mental torture.
It only confirms what I suspected – that Depp is an unhinged person who has been pandered to for too long by studios and has had his behaviour covered up by his ex wife as well.
He didn’t do it on purpose. Something he smashed broke and it cut the tip off. But he was upset enough to continue on and use it to do as stated. Probably didn’t feel anything until he had a chance to calm down due to adrenalin and I’m sure alcohol as well.
Nowhere did it state that he did it intentionally.
I think the main reason nothing is being settled is the fact Depp wants a non-disclosure agreement and she doesn’t want to sign it.
They want to shut her up. No post-divorce interviews, no autobiography ect.
A little bit like Mel Gibson (also an abusive turd) and his baby momma. Even if she speaks in suggestive tones they drag her ass to court.